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All Things On Growing Orchids [3.8.25] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome one and all. Here we are back in the
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  Speaker 2: studio San Diego, California. That is our headquarters, our home
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  Speaker 2: from the iHeartMedia and Entertainment studios. It is Garden America
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  Speaker 2: Happy weekend. Kicking things off. I'm Brian Maine along with
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  Speaker 2: Tiger Pelafox. A few minor glitches just prior to going
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  Speaker 2: on the air. Well, I think we're about what ten
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  Speaker 2: seconds late, fifteen seconds late.
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  Speaker 3: FCC is gonna be all over all over us.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Usually we try to get on the air at
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  Speaker 2: six minutes after the hour. That could be six minutes
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  Speaker 2: after eight, nine eleven, depending upon where you are across
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  Speaker 2: the country. But it's Tiger myself Brian Maine. I was
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  Speaker 2: surprised this morning when I met you in the parking
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  Speaker 2: lot and you said no John today, No junt. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like, wait a second, he.
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  Speaker 3: Was last for family stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I know, he's there's a wedding, right, there's a wedding going.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a wedding going on. He's got to get ready
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  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: So he's getting ready for his son's wedding.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not his wedding. Not his wedding. He's already married.
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  Speaker 2: Reconfirming his vows. So again it's it's just you and I.
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  Speaker 2: No guest this week.
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  Speaker 3: No, Well, we were planning on having a guest from
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  Speaker 3: the Santa Barbara Orchid Show, right.
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  Speaker 2: Because the newsletter said possible guests.
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  Speaker 3: We're not sure, right, And you know, no matter what,
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  Speaker 3: they have a lot going on up there. Couldn't couldn't
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  Speaker 3: work it all out. But you know, I mean we
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  Speaker 3: can talk about orchids still. And you know there's also
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  Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Flower Show. I got some info that happened
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  Speaker 3: as well. There's a lot. There's a lot happening right now.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it is spring to some degree in the
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  Speaker 3: sense of this is the time when all of these
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  Speaker 3: events start to happen. It is the beginning of it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the music and movie industry have their awards
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  Speaker 3: season this is the gardening ste.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's waking up. Yes, now we had some good rain.
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, I'm telling you it will flood flood advisory
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  Speaker 2: warnings and script's ranch right. Wow, So yeah, things got soaked.
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  Speaker 2: Things look really good.
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  Speaker 3: And the nice thing about is we're getting these rains
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  Speaker 3: that space themselves out. So we get a good rain,
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  Speaker 3: it allows the ground to absorb it a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: to their dry out a little bit, and then we're
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  Speaker 3: projected to get a little bit more rain next week.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it should be nice because that's going to
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  Speaker 3: be just in time for you to not have to
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  Speaker 3: turn on your irrigation system again. And now you get
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  Speaker 3: another couple of weeks where you can just let nature
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  Speaker 3: water for you. With with the San Diego water prices
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  Speaker 3: going up as well, it's a good savings.
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  Speaker 2: If you get the newsletter. We were talking about orchids
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  Speaker 2: a few moments ago. Yeah, nice article about orchids. The
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  Speaker 2: newsletter was full of orchid information. John's article dealt with
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  Speaker 2: you know what you should or shouldn't do? You know,
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  Speaker 2: people thinking you should do this or that to orchids
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  Speaker 2: when maybe you shouldn't. As far as growing and propagating
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  Speaker 2: orchids So if you get a chance, if you haven't
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  Speaker 2: read the newsletter yet, we're gonna be talking about orchids
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  Speaker 2: today to some degree. Check it out. You can learn
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  Speaker 2: a lot about orchids and maybe some myths that we
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  Speaker 2: can debunk today. Do you have orchids?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? I love orchids. They're one of my favorite plants.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a bunch and I have a whole.
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  Speaker 3: I have a little orchid area orchid hospital that I
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  Speaker 3: put them in between blooming cycles. Right, yeah, I love them.
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  Speaker 2: And people can overwater orchids. That was when the newsletter
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  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, you gotta be careful. So again, the
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  Speaker 2: newsletter a great source of information if you're into orchids.
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  Speaker 2: And I think orchids are one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: you buy one, you buy two. Now you're hooked because
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  Speaker 2: there's so many different varieties of orchids. And I caught
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  Speaker 2: myself getting into that category at one time too.
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  Speaker 3: And especially if you can get them to rebloom, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people will just buy them as like a
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  Speaker 3: cut flowers so to speak, and blooms, throw it away,
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  Speaker 3: get a new one, by another one. But that's why
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  Speaker 3: you know, I say I have a little orchid hospital
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  Speaker 3: because I collect them and then when they're not in
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  Speaker 3: bloom obviously, you know, you don't have them in your windows, seal,
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  Speaker 3: you don't put them on the counter. You you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're not that great to have out there, so you
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  Speaker 3: put them in the little hospital. You see that spike again.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's time to bring it back in the house,
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  Speaker 3: show it off. It's done blooming back outside.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's the key right there. I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people may think, I don't know. That just
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  Speaker 2: seems too difficult. In between blooms.
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  Speaker 3: What do I do?
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  Speaker 2: So what do you do when you buy an orchid
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  Speaker 2: and then it starts to you know, look a little
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  Speaker 2: peak in it looks like it's dying, but it's not.
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  Speaker 2: What's the key? What does your hospital do for your orchids?
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  Speaker 3: So the key thing is number one. Outside. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of people think that orchids need to be kept inside
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  Speaker 3: all the time, but that's not the case. A matter
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  Speaker 3: of fact, failian oposis need a chill to bloom. So failianopsis,
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  Speaker 3: which is like the moth orchid. You know what you
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  Speaker 3: see at the grocery store ninety percent of the time.
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  Speaker 2: Trader Joe's a good place, exactly yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they always have them right when you walk in,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of people think, oh, I just have
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  Speaker 3: to keep it inside nor your interior house temperature is
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  Speaker 3: usually kept somewhere between sixty nine and seventy five degrees
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  Speaker 3: and that's way too warm for them to bloom. Again,
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  Speaker 3: they need that chill, so outside, protected patio porch.
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  Speaker 2: Indirect sunlight because you don't want to burn the leaves.
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  Speaker 3: That is one hundred percent true. Because they also think
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  Speaker 3: about where they're native to under canopies. You know, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they are warm sunny areas, but they're under canopies, they're
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  Speaker 3: protected and then like what you said, they can get
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  Speaker 3: over watered. So they need to have that airflow. So
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  Speaker 3: wherever they're at, they need to have airflow all around them,
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  Speaker 3: top and bottom. A lot of orchids are just in
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  Speaker 3: bark and so they just need to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: the root system isn't sitting in water. And if you
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  Speaker 3: do that, you've got an orchid hospital. Anything will rebloom
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  Speaker 3: in that area. I think.
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  Speaker 2: I think orchids are very cool. They just basically basically
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  Speaker 2: need a host. Yeah, they need someplace to set up roots.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, They're not something to attach on to remember when
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  Speaker 3: we in Costa Rica, we just see them in the trees.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everywhere, all over yeah, all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: And it's true. Orchids are the largest well not just no,
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  Speaker 3: there's big, but no, but the largest family the genus
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  Speaker 3: of plants, you know, with so many varieties, so many
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  Speaker 3: different areas they grow. And then there's these weird orchids
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  Speaker 3: that grow like in the Alps and different areas like that.
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  Speaker 3: People think like, oh, orkid, it's Costa Rica and Hawaii. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: there's orchids all over the world. So that that show
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  Speaker 3: is this weekend Santa Barbara. Yeah, up there in Santa Barbara. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So if anybody had a chance to go buy or
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  Speaker 2: plans to go buy and let us know please, I
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  Speaker 2: can imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Share some photos any any.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of convention or get together, whether it's a reptile
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  Speaker 2: convention orchid show, row show, whatever, you have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of like minded people there.
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  Speaker 3: They should do like a combo event where it's you
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  Speaker 3: got the reptiles over here, the orchids over here, and
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  Speaker 3: then the miniature pine trees or something.
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  Speaker 2: It's the closest thing you can get to as an
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  Speaker 2: adult when you were a kid going into a toy
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  Speaker 2: store looking around, and when you're an adult, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the same thing. You're like, Wow, look at I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even know this existed. How much is that? Can
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  Speaker 2: I get one of those? How do you grow it?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: It be so much fun to kind of just peruse
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  Speaker 3: the aisles and talk to people and see what you want.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we go to the Plumeria show
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like that, I always pick up two or
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  Speaker 3: three new plum areas. Yeah, you have to.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of kind of an unwritten role that before
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  Speaker 2: you leave you must make a purchase.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing about orc is they could be pretty pricey,
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  Speaker 3: right of course. Yeah, you know. They are not fast
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  Speaker 3: growing all the time like some of the other plants are,
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  Speaker 3: so they're very The reason why price goes up on
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  Speaker 3: plants is the rate of reproduction and the ease of
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  Speaker 3: it growing. The harder they are to grow and the
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  Speaker 3: slower they are to reproducing each other, the price of
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  Speaker 3: any plant's going to go up. So the harder they are.
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  Speaker 2: The harder they are to grow, the price is gonna now,
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  Speaker 2: you would think, so you're saying that the easier they
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  Speaker 2: are to grow, the price is lower.
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  Speaker 3: Oh easy, yeah, because you know, I mean if I'm
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  Speaker 3: growing an agapanthus, I can pretty much drop it in
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  Speaker 3: my front yard and it would grow. So for a
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  Speaker 3: grower who is growing ten thousand agapanths, it's really easy.
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  Speaker 3: They put it in some pot with some soil, they
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  Speaker 3: water it, they fertilize it, the plant grows. But now,
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  Speaker 3: you know we talked about boga villa. You know, they
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  Speaker 3: don't transplant real well. So for a grower, they can't
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  Speaker 3: just put it in a one gallon, then put it
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  Speaker 3: into a five and then put it in a fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: It's much more difficult. They're going to lose a few
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  Speaker 3: along the way when they do that, or they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: start that one gallon in a fifteen and then just
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  Speaker 3: let it put its whole life in there rather than
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  Speaker 3: do the transplant, because they're gonna lose them. Right so
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  Speaker 3: they have loss that they're going to factor into the
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  Speaker 3: price of the plant, and right then and there they
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  Speaker 3: might lose ten to twenty percent. Where an agapanth is
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  Speaker 3: you don't lose any percentage.
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  Speaker 2: So if you have a plant, or you know, take
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  Speaker 2: a dive into trying to grow something that you haven't
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  Speaker 2: grown before and like you say, it's going to be harder.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be harder to grow. It's gonna
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  Speaker 2: take longer. Yeah, and it's gonna cost you more money
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  Speaker 2: because of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, you're taking.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of a chance because it's not easy to grow.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna spend this money hoping you can
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  Speaker 2: do it. Because it's harder and it takes longer, you
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  Speaker 2: don't see your return quite as quickly. So so it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a gamble. You're rolling the dice in a sense.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a gamble if you listen to the show
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  Speaker 3: and you know how to go.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's true. But you know a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you go to a box store and you
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  Speaker 2: know this that they're selling things out of season. Oh right,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like why wait a minute, hold on you
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  Speaker 2: and the average person, you know, the delayed person who's
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  Speaker 2: you know, they don't spend their whole life in the garden. Well,
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  Speaker 2: this looks nice. I think I'll make a purchase. It
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  Speaker 2: looks so pretty in the store, right, And they get
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  Speaker 2: home and then they get home and it's like, what,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what happened to this thing? You'll need to
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  Speaker 2: keep a good eye in the comments.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm watching right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we have a break coming up here in just
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  Speaker 2: about a minute. Do you have that quote? I do,
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  Speaker 2: And again John is not here. John is home preparing
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  Speaker 2: for a wedding today, two weeks off. So we will
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  Speaker 2: give them a hard time next week.
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  Speaker 3: So the quote. I read this book per John's recommendation,
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  Speaker 3: and Susan Orlean's from The Orchid Thief. This is where
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  Speaker 3: the quote is from, and it's a really interesting story.
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  Speaker 3: If anybody has a chance to read The Orchid Thief
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  Speaker 3: read it. You know. Number one, it's to some degree
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  Speaker 3: political when it comes to plants, and then it also
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  Speaker 3: gives you a bit of insight and plant hunting and
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  Speaker 3: all of the fun stuff that you know whenever we're
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  Speaker 3: looking for new plants. When a man falls in love
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  Speaker 3: with orchids, he'll do anything to possess the one he wants.
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  Speaker 3: It's like chasing a green eyed woman or taking cocaine.
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  Speaker 3: It's a sort of madness. I don't know where Susan
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  Speaker 3: Orlean came up with that, because maybe maybe she had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of experience with cocaine and greenead wind.
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  Speaker 2: But but you're right, hey, goett to take a break.
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  Speaker 2: Main along with Tiger Palafox. John is off for the weekend,
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 4: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we are back. Thank you to those tuned in
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  Speaker 2: Live every weekend here on Garden America, Brian Maine, John
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  Speaker 2: Beg Nasco usually and Tiger Pella Fox As we talk
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  Speaker 2: about a lot of things this morning, No guest, we
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  Speaker 2: kick the show off talking about orchids. Anybody with any
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  Speaker 2: questions or comments so far?
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  Speaker 3: Tiger, Oh yeah, We've got Tanya and Carla and Leonor
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  Speaker 3: and Kevin and his thumb on the program with us,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of them are talking about the newsletter photos,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because you know, John did such a wonderful
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  Speaker 3: job this week putting together that newsletter with the different
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  Speaker 3: orchid photos and different articles and stuff. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: with our guests, you know, I number one had a
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  Speaker 3: paint for lily photo in there, really unique plant. I'll
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  Speaker 3: have to do a close up photo of the bloom
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  Speaker 3: because I've number one. I started off with that one
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  Speaker 3: plant a few years back that John gave to me.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's got three blooms on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the newsletter for those that do get
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  Speaker 2: the newsletter, right.
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  Speaker 3: So the the close up bloom is very pretty. The
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  Speaker 3: faraway bloom almost doesn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Just but you could put that on our page right now,
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  Speaker 2: write that picture it's.
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  Speaker 3: On Yeah, yeah, I'll do it on our page. Yeah
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  Speaker 3: that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those that are watching right now can can click
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  Speaker 2: and take a look at it. Uh yeah, very nice.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like I told like a doctor Seus's plant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just doesn't look real. It's very very nice.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's funny. Then Sherry had a protea picture.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But who had the outdoor lighting?
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  Speaker 3: So that's Tanya. Yeah, and it's funny because it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a outdoor light. It's covering her water feature. Beautiful plants
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  Speaker 3: all the way around.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about outdoor lighting last was it last week
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  Speaker 2: or two weeks ago?
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  Speaker 3: No, last week was last week? Right, Yeah, And it's
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  Speaker 3: funny because then there's the chatter on how did they
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  Speaker 3: get the light up there? And you know they copper
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  Speaker 3: conduit running into the lamp. You know, like it's got
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  Speaker 3: a nice patina now.
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  Speaker 2: Because of the copper exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a fun chat going on right now
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  Speaker 3: with our listeners. So thank you very much for joining
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  Speaker 3: the program. Everyone, And you know it's kind of see
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  Speaker 3: it's see you know we talk about right now. It's
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  Speaker 3: also going to be garden garden walk season coming up,
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  Speaker 3: where people walk or take tours and go in people's
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  Speaker 3: homes and they get these inspiration. They get this inspiration
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  Speaker 3: from seeing other people's yards. Well, that's our newsletters. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to do that. Yeah, now they can do that.
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  Speaker 3: So Carlo says Tiger, I put my moth work it's
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  Speaker 3: outside to make room for my Christmas decor. And now
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  Speaker 3: two of them have new bloom spice. Yep. You just
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  Speaker 3: move them outside for a little bit protected area and
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  Speaker 3: they'll bloom right away for you. And then Cherry thank you.
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  Speaker 3: After our trip up to Africa, I need to change
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  Speaker 3: up my landscape.
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  Speaker 2: She got inspired on that ideas from Africa. I don't think, though, showy,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think legally you can keep a lion out
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  Speaker 2: where you live. You want to double check with a
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  Speaker 2: county on that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, can you imagine a lion? And well, you
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  Speaker 3: know who.
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  Speaker 2: Had a lion in their backyard back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: Uh now, some of our listeners will know the name.
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  Speaker 2: You know who Tippy Hendron is. No, Tippy Hendron is
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  Speaker 2: the mother of Melanie Griffith and Tippy Hedrin was in
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  Speaker 2: I believe the birds Alfred Hitchcock Way. Anyway, they her
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  Speaker 2: and your husband at the time. For some reason, they
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  Speaker 2: had lions and they're living in la I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it was out and about someplace, but had
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  Speaker 2: a lion like around their pool and just as part
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  Speaker 2: of the family. And I think a few things might
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  Speaker 2: have happened, you know, a love bite might have gone
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  Speaker 2: too far. But yeah, speaking of lions here, did me
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  Speaker 2: to get you off track?
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  Speaker 3: Cherry wrote, yeah, quiet, don't let them know. Oh another so,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: another fun event that's happening this weekend is Tomato Mania
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: at mischis nurse.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: You're a nursery.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you're in the San Diego area and
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: you're looking to get your selection of tomatoes, right now
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: is the time to go and visit the nursery. And
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: you know, hundreds and hundreds of varieties of tomatoes, small, big, compact, giant, sweet, sour, sweet, sour, yellow, purple,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: what was the sweet apertive?
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Well, we talked about that, but then I brought up
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the fact that like a like a sandwich tomato, Oh,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: slicing tomato. Yeah, and you mentioned one that was sweet,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: someone of our listeners.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, what was it? Pineapple?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Pineapple? Yeah, slicing tomato pineapple for a sandwich.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's a good one for a sandwich for sure. Yeah.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: There's so many varieties. Yeah, it's really cool, and it's
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: it's almost hard to grow tomatoes every year because obviously,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: when you find one that you like, you want to
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: keep planting it, right, you know, why not? It's safe,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: you like it, you know it. But then at the
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: same time you see something new and you're like, ooh,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: so I always do new, you know, it's I always
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: do three the glitter and the glitz, Yeah, I always
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: do three. I do a cherry tomato, and that one
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: can change in rotap because I kind of feel like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't need the same cherry tomato
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: every year. I do a big slicing tomato, right, and
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: then I always do like a really obscure, weird one
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: that I've never done before. So the cherry tomato and
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: the big slicing tomato, they could be the same one
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: year after year, or I change it up maybe, depending
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: on what strikes me interesting. But then I always throw
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: in a random you know, Brad's atomic grade or you
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: know carbon.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Now, there's a couple of two or three years ago.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: One of the tomatoes you gave us was a very
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: small tomato.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Spoon, and it was that small one. Remember, it was
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: like like it was like a jellybean, like little.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's sweet? Pretty sweet, I think. And I'd
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: be out there working in the patio and I would
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: just pick him and eat them like grapes. Yeah, really
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: really good, but yeah, very small. You said, that's called spoon.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, spoon tomato, Tony. How do I find out when
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: San Diego Garden walks are. I'll be in San Diego
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: end of April for the Cactus and Succulent Convention. So
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: for Tanya, I mean, you know, there's a Santye Home
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: and Garden magazine that actually puts together a full list
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: of all the different garden walks. I don't know if
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: they continue to do that, but I mean that is
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: one way to do it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Isn't there not one up in next to your nursery
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: or in that neighborhood that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Guard yea, there is one, and that one is Mother's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Day weekend. So that's the first weekend I think in.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: May, so maybe a little bit past the time.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, she might still be in town if
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: she's Yeah, it says end of April for the Cactus convention,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: so yeah. Or I mean you just google garden walks
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: San Diego because there's the Mission Hills one, there's La Joya,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: there's Point Loma, and these are all central San Diego ones.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I think there's a Claremont one, and I then I
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: think the other ones kind of get you know, maybe
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: like Encinnitas or Escondido or more East counties.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: You know, the Cactus convention we're talking about now, See,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: that would be another one where you'd go because you're
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: curious and you would come across so many different varieties
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that you never even knew existed. Really cool. You'd say, cactus,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: that's a cactus, that's a succulent. Really I can grow that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Look at the colors. I didn't know that succulents and
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: cactus had so many colors. So you're talking. We talked
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: about the varieties of orchids. That would be another eye opener.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: You know, my favorite and my my orchid cactus succulent
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: is the new varieties of mangave. So a mangave is
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: a criss a cross between agave and I don't know
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: it starts with.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: A mango, a mango mangave.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: But they're very cool colors and cool shapes, and the
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: leafs on them are just very interesting and there's a
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: lot of variety. So mangavis are my my new passion.
• 19:29
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• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Carla really liked my format of growing tomatoes, she says,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: a discipline and an effective way to grow tomatoes by
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: having my three you know, my cherry, my slicing, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: then my a weird one Tanya, she says. Tiger Camelia question,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I planted a spring song It that I was planted
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: around nineteen eighty seven. This year has many yellow leaves.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I gave it iron about a month ago, but I
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: don't see a change. Is there anything else to green
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: it up?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: What is the life span normally of that time?
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I mean camelias can live, they can go retime. Yeah,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: they can live for a very long time. So I
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: don't think it has anything to do with the lifespan.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Is in ground or a pot?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Uh? That's a great question, Tanya, Yeah, is it in
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: the ground or a pot? But I think that I
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: could help her out, you know, just from that because
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: number one iron Iron is very easy to identify, and
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: iron deficiency is very easy to identify on a plant
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: because it's yellow leaves with green veins, so meaning you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the leaf is yellow, but the little veins in the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: leaf are still green. That's an iron if. So it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: easy to kind of see that in the plant. So
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: if that's happening, you're putting on iron is great. There's
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of ways that iron is delivered to the plant,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: so you might want to look at the iron product
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: that you used, whether you know it's kelated iron or
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: liquid iron or different things like that, because sometimes that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: could affect the way that the plant absorbs it. But
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: it's if it's just yellow leaves on the camellia so
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: an overall that could mean another couple things. It's not
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: an iron thing. Number One, Camellias are an acid rich
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: fertilizer plant, So using a proper fertilizer is going to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: be important because it has to do with the pH. Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and if you keep using regular fertilizers over time, you
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: change the pH of the soil and now the plant
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't absorb it properly. And I know for a fact
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that's very true because my guardiana is my chamellias. I've
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: been using regular fertilizer for a long time. They were great,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: and then I started seeing this issue where no matter
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: how much fertilizer I put on them, they weren't changing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: They weren't growing, they weren't graining. Then I switched to
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: acid fertilizers and I do now see a change. So
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: number one, you want to be using a camellia azalea
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: fertilizer or something that's going to change the pH to
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: be more properly aligned with the plant. But then also
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: camellias get this yellow overall leaf sometimes through sporadic parts
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: of the plant, and that's usually due to a watering issue.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: My next question was watering.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so camellias are very hardy shrubs and they can
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: withstand a lot of difference in you know, years has
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: been there for what are we going on? Thirty years? Yeah? Yeah, no,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: twenty almost forty almost forty right, eighty seven to twenty twenty.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Five, ninety seven and seven seventeen. Yeah, so thirty eight years.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that is impressive.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I was going to say the longevity, right, yeah, And
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: so it's probably not so much a watering issue as
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: more of all like a.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Drainage root issue, which I recommend. Fertilome has a humic
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: product which helps amnd the soil, help improve drainage and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: things like that. So that might just be something you
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: need to kind of look into, is humic in the
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: soil to help with the root health in development.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Speaking of putting things on our Facebook page and maybe
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a link to fertilom, is that possible, Yeah? And then
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and then while people are watching the show and listening
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to us we talk about these products, you can click
• 24:43
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  Speaker 2: sponsor but get some of the products that we're talking
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: about now. You mentioned you mentioned too that over a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: period of time, adding fertilizer can change the pH of
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the soil. I would imagine not just for what you're
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: talking about, but for other plants as well, or on
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: plants susceptible to those changes in the soil, depending upon
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: if the plant is more acid neating, you know, higher
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: pH or lower pH. So what's a good rule of
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: thumb if there is one as far as fertilizing over
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the years in the same area with plants that may
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: have some deficiency in the soil after a period of time.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's good to not feed your plants
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the same thing every day. So meaning just like you
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you wouldn't survive on a peanut butter and jelly
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: sandwich every day. You need to mix it up. There's
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: there's other foods that have other minerals, vitamins, you know, metals.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It's called flavor fatigue too, you know, right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: You know, So same thing with with plants that people think, oh,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: it's just NPK throw it in the soil, Well, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: each product is delivered a little bit different. Each product
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: has other micro minerals and minerals and and different you know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: elements in it that you know affect the way it's
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: absorbed and it could belacking one and you keep putting
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: the same thing in there and then it never gets
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: it right. So it's good to you know, not just
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: mix up brands, but also mix up what you're fertilizing.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: You know, like I'm gonna put the link right out
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of the fertil on humic product. This is a good
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: overall product for your yard. I tell people to do
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: once a year just because it it improves the soil
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: health so that way, whatever fertilizers you're using are more effective. Okay,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: so it's not necessarily a fertilizer by itself, but it
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: helps the fertilizers become more effective and water absorption phs
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: in the soil changes and stuff like that. So you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: once a year, once every couple of years is good
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to use this humic product. And again it helps with
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: like root rod issues or just just overall concerns with
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: your soil, like you know, breaking down clay and other
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: things like that. So yeah, and then let me see
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: if I can post this other picture. Let me see
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: write a comment.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we talked about back in the old
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: days of fertilization that you're fertilizing the plant itself, whereas nowadays,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and it's been this way for a while, you're fertilizing
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the soil. You're you're fertilizing the environment. You know, the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: healthier the soil, the more effective fertilizers are going to be. Yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: or other addatives.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I am trying to see if I can
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: post a picture of that of your plant. Yeah. I
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: don't think I could post a picture in the chat.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I'll have to post it to the web. I'll have
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to post it to the Facebook.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Facebook, that's even better.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but let me see what else. We got all
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: kinds of it. Man, they're they're yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: They're busy, busy beavers this morning, right, Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: What is the rule of thumb for the maximum size
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: of pot when I should use to repot my orchids? So,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: you know, Veronica asked this question, and this is a
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: very common question. And orkids that are put in bark,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you know that you normally purchase and bark they really
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: don't need. The pot is insignificant, you know, like as
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: far as repotting it. The repotting is more for stability
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: so it doesn't fall over more so than it needs
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: to be in the pot. So so I have this,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I have this really small failire inopsis that's only about
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: as big as my hand, and it's in this pot
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: that's only like a two inch pot, and the roots
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: are all coming out the side of it. Well, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: just have it propped up properly, and it's fine. It
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't need anything more than that. Right now, if I
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: was trying to put it somewhere whereas a standalone plant,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I would need to probably about a four inch pot.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Now fill it with the bark down there, and it's stability, right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: So any of the you know, those epiphyte orchids, it's
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the pot size is just for stability some of those
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: growing trees, right, so they don't need a certain pot size.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: But now also then you can work into the you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: the catalaeas and some of the other ones that are
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: in soil. Those love to be crowded, so they again
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: they don't want you to keep increasing the pot size
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: either because they love to be crowded in that pot
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: and constrained. So as far as what is the pot
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: size I say it's more for stabilities, because even the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: ones that are crowded, you don't want to go super
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: big because then they won't bloom as much. They really
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: don't like it. It's too much soil mass around them.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: The orchids are really prone. Like people you mentioned in
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, people over water a lot
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: because they think these are tropical. They just need water
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: all that time. They they like humidity, but they like drainage.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: And so in a big pot with a small orchid,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: you're giveving it too much soil that will actually.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Rot it much more than it need, right, right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: So, so you just want to go up the bare minimum.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And really I think the golden rule is the stability
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: of the plant. So whether it will fall over or not,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: or you know, whether it can you know, withstand, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: being in that pot without getting knocked over or blown
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: over or something like that.
• 30:26
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  Speaker 3: of like a great reminder, a great check up for everybody,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and he asks, speaking of fertilizer, why is NPK different
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: on the various products? What point is? What is point point?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I think, what is the point of that or why
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: so NPK let's first off break that down. Do you
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: remember what NPK is, Brian?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Then I think it has to do with because we
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: talked about this a while back, to different fertilizers.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have different they're all based on NPK. So it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: it's nitrogen phosphorus and potash NPKO. Okay, yeah, I know
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: it's a k. It's weird, but it's potash. So those
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: are the basic elements in fertilizer that give plants their value.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Now would it be the difference would that be how
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: it's delivered to the soil.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: No, No, it is simply the value. So for instance,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: like you know, you might buy one hundred milligram vitamins,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: you know, and then you like I use yeah, okay exactly,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and then you might have you know, whatever vitamin B
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: in there, and then whatever itamin D in there, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you take these vitamins based on these certain numbers. And
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: that's basically nitrogen, phosphorus and potash infertilizers. And the generalization
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: of all of this is nitrogen is for green or growing.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: So if your plants are yellow or you want them
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: to grow, you want a high nitrogen fertilizer. That's why
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: lawn fertilizers are usually only nitrogen. Yeah, exactly, you're not
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: worried about, you know, flowering, You're not worried about overall health.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: You just want to green, green and growth, green and growth,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: right Exactly. Phosphorus normally is flowering or I like to
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: tell people also reproduction because that groups into this whole
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: like tomatoes and citrus and apples and avocados. Phosphorus is
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: where a lot of plants get their flowering value from.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So that's going to encourage flowering. There's a lot of
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: products out there called like super bloom or ultra bloom.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: You would use it on your annuals of perennials to
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: just get them to blue phosphor high in phosphorus. So
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that's going to force the plant to flower more or
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: reproduce more. So that's where that number kind of comes from.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And then potash that's kind of like your multi vitamin.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: That's your overall plant health. A lot of root development
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: value in potash, a lot of overall you know, bug resistance,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: disease resistance health in the plant gets it from potash. Now,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: all soils kind of have those in there, so when
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: you're planting in the ground, you're just kind of blending
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: that into the soil and then the roots absorb it. Now,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: the reason why you'll see fertilizers with different numbers is
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: because you know, over the years they've done research and
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: they say, like lawns, they really only need nitrogen. We
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: don't need to worry about putting potash in there. You know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: we talked about citrus and tomatoes. They are going to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: be higher in phosphorus, I'll tell you right now. Organics
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: are always going to be low. You know, a number
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: five is going to be high for an organic fertilizer
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: because they're made out of organic products and they don't
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: get the extreme numbers that you do from chemicals. Then
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: in organics, but you know, you can buy a chemical
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: triple fifteen or like I said, I think a super
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: bloom product I think is like thirty thirty for phosphorus
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: and it's got like zero nitrogen.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: So knowing what your plant needs, what particular species of plant,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: whether you're going to greet it up, you know, whether
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: you're going to encourage flowers, and then there's the overall.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: The potash is the overall yeah, so Rick, Yeah, it
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: depends on what you're fertilizing and what it needs, you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is it grass or is it you want it to grow?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So there's three factors.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Basically, right, So those are the basics, and then you
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: brought up a great question is how it's delivered. So
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: we talked about chemical fertilizers are are forced on the
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: roots of the plant, so they're forced into the plant.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: On the root again and not the soil, not the environment.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so even though a plant might not need nitrogen,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: chemical fertilizers force that plant to absorb it. And now
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: there's effects down the road because of that. Organic fertilizers
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: make the minerals and available, you know, available, but they
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: don't force it. So the plant takes what it needs
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: and how much it needs. Right, it's there, it's always there,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: but it's not forcing it into the plant. So therefore
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: the plant on organics are usually overall healthier. And so
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying you never need chemicals. If I'm having
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: a wedding at my house or a party and i
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: want my plants looking great, i mean, go through super
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: bloom the heck out of it, miracle grow the yard.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: It'll be looking good for a while.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: You hit the nail on the head there Becau's a
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: lot of people, well, what's the difference between organic and chemicals?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: And chemicals aren't good, and you know, chemicals are okay
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: if if applied responsibly, and if applied because like what
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: you just said, Tiger, you need some quick growth, you
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: need something in the short term, as opposed to being
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: a little more gentle with the organic and giving whatever
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: particular aspect of the nitrogen, the potash, the phosphorus, whatever
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: your plant may need at the time. Yeah, And I
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: think that was good that you broke that down because
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: that makes total sense. And it makes a lot of
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: sense too as far as feeding the environment, feeding the
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: soil as opposed to feeding the roots of the plant
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: forcing the plant to take something when you should leave
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the plant alone in some cases and let the plant
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: take what it needs as often or as little as
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: at once at that particular time.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so you know, I mean, John is
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: always a huge advocate for not really fertilizing because he
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: feels our soils all. You know, if you were to
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: do a soil test, a lot of soils have like
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of nitrogen. It's very rare that you walk
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: into a situation in your yard, where your garden has
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: zero nitrogen or zero podash or phosphorus like we're talking about.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: This is things. These are helping your plants. They're not
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: always necessary, you know, we go back to Tanya's camellia.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: You know, iron, nitrogen, potash, what could be creating a
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: you know, that's when you kind of step in with
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: these products. Sure, or you just want to encourage things
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: to grow faster, like we talked about, Like you might
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: have a slow growing plant, you want to grow it
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: a little, You want to grow a little quicker, or
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: like throw a little bit of my more nitrogen on it, or.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Like me who has most everything in pots. Yeah, okay,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to deplete a lot of nutrients. Yes, quick
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: goes right out the bottom, and it's going to go
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: out the bottom. And so this is the time of
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the year right now especially, I've got to be.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Very aware of that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've got to start feeding. I've got to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: start to like I say, when it comes to soil
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: topping off.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Now, the Ocean Forest bag that you delivered to me too.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually brought your recipe for twenty okay, which
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: is it's a good comparable product to Ocean Forest. We
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: you know, I brought that one to you because it
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: has everything. It's got a lot in there, It's got
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: everything in there. It's already ready to go with a
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: lot of fertilizers in there. Take a break, good okay,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: And we got a question again from Tanya I think
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: regarding is paw tash potassium?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, So we're going to take a break for BIS
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Talk Radio News coming up top of the hour for you.
• 39:21
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• 39:26
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• 39:45
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• 39:47
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• 39:49
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• 39:51
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• 39:55
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• 39:58
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• 40:00
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• 40:02
  Speaker 3: We want to continue. Yeah, so we had a question
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: is potash potassium? And I'm going to answer it. Yes
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: and no.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: It was n K on the on the fertilizer and
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: PK and p K and K is potasts but.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: K is K is potassium. But on the it's very
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: confusing why K. Well, potash is a group of minerals
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: that contain potassium. So it's not potassium, like it is
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: not straight potassium. And you could buy straight potassium for plants,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: but no, potash is not potassium. But I would you
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you could say that potash contains potassium, Okay, so you
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: know it's a you know, there's a potassium chloride, potassium sulfate,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: potassium nitrate, those are all potash. You know, it is
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: not straight potassium though, And then you know kind of
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: what we're talking about. What the camelle is acid loving plants.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: They don't want a lot of potash because it increases
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: of soil pH which can be negative to the health
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: of like azalea's, rhododendrons, camelias, gardenias. So you know, just
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: a good note that if you do have those plants,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you don't want to use a high potash fertilizer on
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: those plants. You know, kind of thing. But so to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: answer to answer the question, is pot ash potassium, No,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: it contains but it contains potassium, Yeah, exactly, So answer
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: that question, and man, we had so much I can't
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: even keep track of everything. Margaret says, it's beautiful and
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: sunny and redding right now.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful, and it's gonna be hot obviously another hot
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: summer and reading.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if we do miss a question or comment, yeah,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: go ahead and repost it as we as we scroll
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: up and down here to try to keep up with everybody.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Joyce wrote, is it too late to prune my Mexican
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: lime tree? So? Mexican lime, otherwise known as key lime
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: or sweet lime, are the small limes, Brian, the key
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: lime pie, you know, the small limes that you find
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: usually in a grocery store. The bigger limes, the ones
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: that are like the size of what would you say,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: a bear's lime is size of a not a baseball,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: not a baseball, but it's bigger than a golf ball.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: In between a golf ball and a baseball.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: What sports ball is in between a golf ball and
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: a baseball?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Handball? No?
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, had like a racquetball, a racketball. Yeah, racketball would
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: be like a good size let's go with that. Yeah, anyways,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: those are bears limes. So she's asking is it too
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: late to prune my Mexican lime. And and no, it
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: is not because the Mexican limes, you know, they're usually
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: they need to be thinned out a bit because they
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: can grow pretty quickly. You do risk pruning off some
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of the blooms when you do it now, because it
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: should be getting into the time of year where you're
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: going to start to see some blooms. If it's a
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: mature tree, though, there's gonna be no lack of limes.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: So I would say if you're counting on your crop,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: meaning meaning it's a young tree and you need all
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: twenty limes it's going to produce this year, it is
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: too late. But if it's a mature tree that is
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: going to produce you one hundred plus limes, no, you
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: can prune it almost anytime. Don't worry about it. Now.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Is such a thing as a hard prune or a
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: soft prune?
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that is a that's a great question, Brian,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: because if you're in an area that's still going to
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: get frost, you don't want to prune right because if
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: you prune, you're going to encourage growth and then if
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: a frost comes along, it's going to damage the plant more,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: you're gonna stress a plant big time. Yeah, you want
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: to leave that tough, leathery foliage on the plant during
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: a frost. So if she's in an area where she's
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: going to get frost, ill, maybe hold off on pruning it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: But she's asking is it too late, which I'm thinking
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: she's in an air which is already warming up and
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: now you're warm for the next nine months. So you're
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: not going to have any problems. No, yeah, Rick, rick ass.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Is there a standard ratio of NPK? No? Just I mean,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: all purpose fertilizers are usually like even numbers five, five, five, ten, ten, ten, six,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: sixty six. Oh that was a bad one. Why did
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: that jump in my head? Yeah?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to scrap out one.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, there's not an overall like you know, oh,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: this is a standard of practice. Like John uses ozma
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: coat and that has a weird jumping back the number.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Anytime John gives you a plant, yeah, you know, a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: small plant for growth, he always puts Osma cote yeah
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's just a great time release fertilizer. Yes, exactly.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: So you know, an even number just covers all the bases.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: But I will say, most soil has nitrogen in it,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: so even if you were to not do nitrogen and
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: only foster vers and potash, you're probably doing just as
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: good as if you had a high nitrogen fertilizer. There's
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: there's usually not a lot of soils lacking nitrogen. Yes,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: trees are flowering and I did a few days ago.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: So based on the fertilizer info, now is the time
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: to fertilize all my fruit trees. You want to wait
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: to fertilize all your fruit trees until after your last frost.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: But it's we're still gonna get some cold.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on where We've got people listening
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: right now that are in snow, and they've got snow
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: and Julian last night or two days ago, it's so cold,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: really cold. So you want to not fertilize any fruiting
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: tree until your last frost, because again, if you fertilize,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: you're going to encourage growth. If you encourage growth during
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a frost, more damage, more stress to the plant. But
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: if you're free from frost, yes, now is the time
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: to start fertilizing. Carla, I don't know if there is
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: anything you can do to hurt a key lime tree.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: My husband proved ours to basically the trunk and it
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: has branches with limes on it. Now. So I think
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: I told this story before about my lime tree too,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: where I actually tried to kill it on accident.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember this. You wanted to see what it
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: would do.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: It dump chemicals on it on accident and like I
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: thought it was fertilizer. I dump chemicals on it, and
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: it like killed it and it's thriving now. It came
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: back obviously exactly. So yeah, it is pretty challenging to kill.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I had a discussion the other day with somebody about
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: those uh that fire up by Montezuma. Huh where I'm
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: headed today. How those palms came back gorged and it
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: didn't matter. They're coming right back.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Now it still kind of smells of fire and smoke
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: to some degree. But you look at them, you go, wow,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: look at that.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: They took it. Yeah, they took it. And what those are?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: What those are?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Washington, Washington Toonia right, yeah, Washingtonia, yeah.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Or Mexican fan palms y yeah exactly. Which So so
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: we covered the tomato mania San Diego right now, Santa
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Barbara or kids show. If you're in the Santa Barbara area,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: that's happening right now too.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Garden walks. You said to go online you can find
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: out about a garden walk in your area.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Flower Shows. So I saw the report after
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Flower Show about some of the highs of
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: the show. Obviously a lot of wonderful displays. If you
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: go and just uh, you know, go online and go
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: to the Philadelphia Flowers Show website, they'll show you a
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: lot of videos or the social media of what happened
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: over the past week over there. But I would say
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: that the trend that I'm seeing right now with gardening
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: is kind of more back into the flowers. So we
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: went away from flowers flowers color. Yeah, you know, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people focus on like the edibles
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: and vegetables and you know, and then we moved into
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: this whole like drought, taller are in uh you know,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: natives water. Yeah, that kind of move, you know, back
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: to flowers, lots of color, lots of perennials, lots of annuals.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Because I think we're back into that time where they've
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: they've done that cycle and now we're seeing some new
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: caliber cos we're starting to see some new petunias, We're
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: starting to see some new different impatients and things like that. Right,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: So lots of fun color. So I think this year
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: when you go to the garden center, you're going to
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: see stuff that you haven't seen before. So if you're
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: interested in doing you know, borders or container plants or
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: or just providing color, you're gonna see that now a
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: lot in garden centers this year, So get excited about that.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: It's like fashion. Oh right, it's the same thing in
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: terms leads fashion. Is it gardening or is it fashion?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, like in fashion, oh look hey bill
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: bottoms are back, or look you know, you know, long
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: skirts are back. And in gardening color is back or no,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: now it's drought tolerant. You know, now it's it's whatever.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: So same kind of thing, and it recycles because every
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: time something recycles, be it fashion or plants, you have
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: new people, new people either buying the clothes, young people
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: or somebody just trotting out in gardening. So you know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to them, it's new, you know.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Brian Rochelle's saying, are you coming to the
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Aztec game? You mentioned coming to that area.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just I just have I'm going to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: get a haircut up in that area there. Once a month,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I go up to the college area and I drive
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: through you know, the freeway up through Montezuma.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: One of Leonora's cherry trees is blooming, full bloom. Yeah,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's it's a weird season right now,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: it's going to be happening. Rick said that if you
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: heard your soil is amended high in wood products, it
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: takes more nitrogen to break it down. That means you
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: need a fertilizer that is higher in nitdrogen for soil
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: amended in wood products.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Now, so what he's saying, he's saying questioning or saying that,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: you know, if you have a wood product, then it
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: takes more nitrogen to break down that wood.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, so, which is true and that's why. But it's
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: true and false because that's where nitrogen comes from. Also,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: it comes from mulch in the wood. When it's breaking down,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: it will also release nitrogen. So Rick, to answer that question,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: it's what we call a nitrogen sucking wood, and that
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: comes from when.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: We're gonna help them break Okay, we'll get to this
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: questions we get back. I apologize to the network back
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: after these methicis miscalcret. Okay, we are back. Yeah, this
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: is my first rodeo trying to stay on time for
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: the next Just here.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: It's we talked about this last time that when it's
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: just the two of us, if we have to go
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: gagaboard the back of board, there's no downtime.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I forget we're doing a show.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is There's there's a clock involved.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: From the moment you're on radio, there's a format clock.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: You got to stick with it. So my apologies to Stephanie.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe you can make that work anyway. Back to the show.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: So to answer Rick's question about wood products in your
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: mult or barks and nitrogen, Okay, and normal mulches that
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: are like natural mulches or compost materials actually have nitrogen
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: in them and they should break down and release that nitrogen.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't require more nitrogen to make that happen.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: But a lot of cheap mulch or compost products use
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: wood products that are already been processed or kilned or
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: heat treated, or so to speak, dead. So the best
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: example I could use is sometimes you'll see them a
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: bark and it'll just have shredded up palette wood. That
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: wood is dead, There is no it is dry, it
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: is dead. There is zero value to that wood. Besides,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: it is now takes some space in the bag. Okay,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So it requires a microbial chemical reaction to break down
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: that and turn it into soil. So it sucks nitrogen
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: and other things out of the soil to make that happen.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: So if you're using cheap mulches or a lot of
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: time that stained bark product, or a cheap compost, there's
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: a very good chance that they're using wood products that
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: are already, so to speak, dead, and they're no longer
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: going to be breaking down in that natural fashion. Now,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: if you buy a premium com post or you buy
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: natural mult those will not require more nitrogen to break
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: down and they'll just naturally amend your soil. So to
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: answer your question, Rick, it really depends on your product.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: But if you know it's basically like shredded up two
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: by fours, yes, it will suck nitrogen out of your
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: soil to help break that down.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, there's not a template. People would
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: love a template for all of this, but it depends
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: on what you're growing. It depends on We talked about
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: the nitrogen, the phosphorus, the ash, all of that to
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: know what it is you need out of whatever it
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: is you're growing. I mean, I mean you talked about
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: fertilizers that have a five five five kind of general.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I guess that's a basic platform, a starting point. But
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: then from there there's all kinds of variables. I guess
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say, lots of variables.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ooh, this is a great question from Carla. Let
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: me let me get some info on it, because I
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: am familiar with it and I saw the same Carla,
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: do where did you see the ad? Because I saw
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: this same ad I think it was on TV and
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: it kind of intrigued me. And I saw that too.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Is this spruce? Yes?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I just saw that commercial Safe around pads, Safe around everybody,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: no problem?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So you know, because you know everybody's
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: all up in arms with the whole glyciphi.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: The first thing I thought of was was roundup that
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: that Okay, round Up's got all this publicity for how
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: dangerous it is, cancer causing and so on and so forth,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: right and without them directly mentioning that just based on
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: the ad itself, you knew kind of what they were
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: saying with their point.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Was yeah, exactly, so, Jaren, the oil is is the
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: essential oil that's in it. Corn Mint oil is also
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: an essential oil that's in it, and then sodium oil
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: sulfate which is salt, which is in it as well,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and so kind of you know, back to what we've
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: talked about. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk badly
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: about this product, like I'm it probably works and.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: We don't have any experience with it.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm just gonna say it probably works. I mean,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: from what its ingredients are, it's going to work and
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: it's gonna kill weeds. But to say it's safe, I
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: would argue that there's no herbicides out there that are
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: safe in the sense of there's a lot of herbicides
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: out there that now use clove oil, time oil, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: all these oils, right, and they're basically dehydrants, So they
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: get onto the foliage and they dehydrate the plant, and
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: they work and they are safe, you know. I mean,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: if you were to go drink this product, it's not
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: going to be harmful to you. You know, it's not
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: gonna write it, but I will say a lot of
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: them and contain salt, and that's the residual effects in
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: the soil are way more harmful than some of the
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: chemicals out there that did the same job. And so
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: you have to be careful with where you use it
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: and how you use it because sometimes you can almost
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: do more damage with these safe products than you can
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: do with some of the other chemical products. Like for instance,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of uh, you know, Furtilom has like
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: selective weed killers, so meaning they have chemicals that you
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: can put in your law that's going to kill weeds
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: but not kill the lawn or kill weeds in your
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: flower beds but not kill the shrubs in your flower beds,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: or you know, they're very selected targets. Right. Well, those
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: are really easy to use in safety use. Yeah, it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: a chemical you're not gonna want to drink it, you know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: it's not you know, you know good in that way,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: but it's easier to use and to some degree almost
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: safer to use for you where some of these other
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: products that are gonna just you know, put salt on
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: the plants. Yeah, you're gonna kill a lot of other
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: things in your garden do more damage, and a lot
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: of the chemicals, you know, do your research. You know
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: you don't want to overdo them or let them get
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: into waterways or have your kids out there or or
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: you know, you know your pets out there when you
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: do it. But a lot of them, once they're dry,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: become a nerd and you you know they're safe again.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: So it's funny. I did see that ad and I
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: think I thought saw it on TV and it's that
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: spruce service side and you know, I'm sure it works,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure it's a good product, and it's ingredients
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: are safe for people and for kids and for pets.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Being safe and how it's applied two different things, right,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: application and I love the go to it's always the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: go to save for kids and pets. How whoever, not
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: safe for most adults or your next door neighbor kids
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: and pens.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine? Can you imagine if it was
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: safe for kids and pets and not adults, not adults,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Like where did that come from? Wait a minute, kids
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: and pens?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, application exactly like you talked about. Yeah, sure
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: it's safe and it won't do this, but it may
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: get into the soil and it may harm something else.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know what, trial and air, Yeah exactly.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: We got about a minute till the next break.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Oh right, let's see here. Where did I go? Where
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: did I leave off of? I gotta review it. The
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Royal Lee, I forget it's if it's self pollinating. Oh
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: she's talking about what did she have a cherry? Umm?
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Was it a cherry? The Royal Lee? You know what?
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: You can look this up because we can go to
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: a break.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, right now.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Which is what we're going to do, and that means
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: for Bistalk Radio Facebook Live, we have but two more
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: segments coming up, so is still plenty of time for
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: your questions, your comments. Very active today on the Facebook Live.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: So again, I'm gonna take a break for BIZ talk Radio.
• 59:09
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• 59:12
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• 59:19
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  Speaker 2: the break. This is our long I met two more
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: segments to go here. If Tiger mentioned dirty when it's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: just Tiger and myself, we just tend to chit chat
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and forget that. We're on the on the radio, on
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: the internet, on Alexa, Spotify, Pandora, Google, all those all
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: cover it, covered it all. So back to what you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: were researching during the break.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Royal Lee cherry does require a pollenizer,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: So Minnie Royal or Royal Crimson is going to be
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: your best polonaise pollinating choice. So who was it? A Leonore?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Leonore had the Royal Lee cherry that was in full bloo,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: full bloom. Yeah exactly.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I imagine it's still very cold where she is.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: She knows, she says she's getting full blooms right now.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: So I do worry that. Well, I'm not so so
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: much worried necessarily about the cold, but a storm coming
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: through and knocking off all those flowers, all those flowers
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: are potential cherries. Yeah. Yeah, And so you know that's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: going to be a bummer if it is early, and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: you know you've got to watch out for that. I mean,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: there's really nothing you can do. It's nature, but it's
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: not fun. Go out there, go out there and hug it,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: put a bag around it, protect it. Yeah exactly. But yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: and that's the that's the tough thing when you're a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: you know, earlier we talked about the Mexican line and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: is it too early to prune it? And you know,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: that's something that people don't worry about as they're trees mature,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: because there's gonna be no shortage of apricots or apples
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: or limes or you know, as the tree matures, you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: almost like are like, oh my gosh, like it'd be
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: better if I had less production this year. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I don't want to have to be We'll bring all
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: those lemons to work people and say, here, have some lemons.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Have some avocados, right, Avocados, although I don't know if
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: people are gond be bringing in a avocados are now
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: like eggs also, like people don't just bring those in
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: and give them away anymore.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: There was a sales guy here last month or so
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: who brought me to and they were really good.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Oh I had to let them ripen a little bit,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: but they were good. You know, one day we had
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: too then the second one. One day I squeezed and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: it was real soft and went, hey, we have to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: eat this today.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just cut it open. You need to put a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: little salt on it anything. Yep. I love avocado. Yeah,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: I've I've yet. I'm gonna prepare an area. I've yet
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: to plant. I planted a tree, but then then we
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: did that construction and it was you're contemplanting an avocado tree. No,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I am going to I gotta get it in the ground.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Shallow root system. Obviously, I know all that ready. You're
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: gonna trip over it. Kids are gonna trip over it.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: No, they're not. I'm putting it in the back of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: the yards, away from everything. It's gonna be my secret stash.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be my retirement. If I have one avocado tree,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna retire off of that thing. Secret stash. That's good.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Everyone needs a secret staf. What's in that box? My
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: secret stash? Yeah, those from the sixties and seventies know
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: what we're talking about.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, in California, it's not a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: secret anymore.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not right out in the open.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I got billboards for it.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: So uh yeah, March this is March eighth. We've got
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: more rain coming here in southern California. Still call them
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: many many parts of the country. Yeah, but you know,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I'm inspired. It's so funny that soil inspires me to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: go out transplant the ficus that I have.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful weekn to do it.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Fertilize a little bit HB one on one on a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: few tired looking plants, uh, and then basically fill up
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the rest with soil. I may need another bag in
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: a week or two because I've got to fill. We
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: talked talk about soil and pots and drainage to top
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: them off. I like to say, is I don't.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Want to read I don't need to completely planty shit.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Well so so oh it's I thought of this when
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: we were talking earlier. And I know I've brought this
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: up before because you were talking about we were talking
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: about fertilizers. We were talking about pots, and people need
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: to realize like, yeah, like a lot of the nutrients
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: and and the soil goes right out the bottom of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: the pot. The plants take it up, and unlike natural soils,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: it doesn't just replenish itself, you know, meaning.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Like nothing to replenish. It's a pot.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: It's in a pot, it just decreases. And and if
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: a plant is growing, it's using that soil to grow
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: that branch to grow those leaves, to grow those flowers.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: So it's constantly using up what you're giving in which
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: if you came over.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: And saw the condition of most of my plants in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: the patio, you'd say, hey, they look pretty good, because
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: they do. Yeah, And I would have to be honest
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: and say, I don't really replenish the soil as much
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: as I should. And I feel now I'm feeling guilty
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: because the plants are like they were hanging on, don't
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: know how much longer.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: A little help, a little helper, please need little help.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: But but but point well taken that in the ground
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: they have the resources of the soil around them to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: get the nourishment and the nitrogen.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Not in a pot, and you know, debris falls down
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: onto it and then it turns it into nutrients. You
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: got worms.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Moving through it all the whole whole life cycle.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a whole thing.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I do have worms in my patio.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, but like we say, in a pot,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: the whatever you give it is whatever it has. And
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: if you don't give it anything, eventually one day you're
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: gonna go out there and those plants are not gonna
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: look good.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna look good one plant that's looking good.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Actually it's a tree, the Australian bottle tree. So when
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: John gave it to me, it was about maybe halfway
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: between my waist and my shoulders. It's a good eighteen
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: feet And now John always say, yeh, I'm really sure,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I go I'm gonna take a picture.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: It's huge. This thing is huge. How is the bottle
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: part of it?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, the bulb, it's well. I transplanted probably about a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: month after John gave it to me to a big pot.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: It's I don't know. Again, we're trying to volleyball, basketball, volleyball, volleyball, volleyball,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: and you know, because it stores water in there, it does,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: they swell, they swell, and then they also use it up.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: So John, watering, be careful in the watering.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Like what you said. It stores water. Yeah, so it
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: it swells right now and then it'll deplete it a
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: bit through the summer month. How big is it?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Put it this way? In the last two or three days,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: with the rain and the wind, it knocked over two
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: or three times. I had to go out there and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: you know, pull it back up again. That's that's how
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: tall it is.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Because you need a heavier pot, or what I do.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Whichever way it blows over, I just move a pot
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: next to it so it can't.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Blow over anymore.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Well just at least during the storm.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, a bigger pot or heavier pot. What do
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: you think would you need? Does it need a bigger pot.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think it needs a first of all, I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: don't need it to get twenty five feet. I'd say
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: a heavier pot might.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Be a heavier pot because because that's another question, right,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: like meaning we talk about stability of pots. A bigger
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: pot would make it more stable. But if it doesn't
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: need a bigger part, then you just buy a heavier pot.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: In that way it's more stable.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I do need you know, the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: doctor needs to come by today this weekend, and I'm
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the doctor check up on the check up on the patients.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: I love it so.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: And I love new soil. Opening that bag all warm
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: and just want to run your hands through it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: It smells good too.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like when I work here, when they
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: cut the grass. You go out there and smell that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: grass or the landscapers.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah grass, yeah, fresh cut grass.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: I was a kid, I'd be rolling around and getting
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: an itchy back.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Oh so itchy, Oh so itchy. Now when Isaac, Isaac
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: hasn't learned that lesson. Him and his friends are wrestling
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: out there, throwing grass in each other's shirts and stuff,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, then he comes home and he's like, oh,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I'm so itchy. I'm like, yeah, because he just ran
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: around and grass.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: What's in the grass that makes you witch?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, right, allergy?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: But I remember as a kid, Yeah, you grass make
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: you witch? Well, what's it it? It's only when you
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: become an adult or you know, well, no, you just
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: learned to do it. No, But I'm saying, where you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: ask these questions when you're a kid. You just take
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: it for granted. Yeah, grass makes me itchy. And I'm like, well,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, what's in the grass that makes you itch?
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  Speaker 3: Let's see what is.
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  Speaker 2: There's something going on and is it all? Is it
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  Speaker 2: all types of grass?
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  Speaker 3: I know that there are grasses more some Okay. The
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  Speaker 3: grass has tiny hairs, and these help protect the grass
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  Speaker 3: from being eaten by insects and animals, damaged by ultra
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: violet rays or losing too much water. Try combes can
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  Speaker 3: also cause tiny scratches to the skin, and then the
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  Speaker 3: skin reacts by coming red and may feel itchy. So
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  Speaker 3: it's it's like a twofold thing. It scratches you, and
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  Speaker 3: then that allows the allergies in the grass and all
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  Speaker 3: that to have a reaction in the scratch, which is
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  Speaker 3: now what.
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  Speaker 2: Makes you It makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So next, so grass with less tricombes a
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  Speaker 3: little hair hair be less itchy grass. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: fescues probably are more itchy than a bermuda grass or
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  Speaker 3: some of the other exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, next time he says I'm ITCHI saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know why don't you, and you can tell.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's funny. It scratches you small cuts,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: so we got to making a bunch of small cuts.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a minute to go. Rick wants to know how
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  Speaker 2: you get orchids to bloom.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: So, Rick, we we're talking about Faelianopsis, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about they need cold so that triggers it
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  Speaker 3: to bloom again. And a lot of other orchids are
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: like that. They're temperature based bloomers. There's a lot of
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: fertilizers out there that say, oh, if you bloom with
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: it if you fertilize with this during this time and
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  Speaker 3: then this one at that time. There is some truth
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: to that, but more so it's time and cycle. Uh
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  Speaker 3: Orchids are not huge feeders again, these are being epiphytes,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Like they don't have soil. They're not sucking up huge
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  Speaker 3: sources of nitrogen and phosphorus and potash and requiring all
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  Speaker 3: these minerals. A lot of their nutrients just comes from
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: the water that they rains down on them, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we might not be able to provide it that, but
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  Speaker 3: you can provide it other ones.
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  Speaker 2: Break time, mild fertilizers, break time. One more secret coming
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  Speaker 2: up here on Darth America. To stay on time playing
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  Speaker 2: Baintacker pelifox were Wright Becker should stay with the plans.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Just like that, we have returned already, Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about this every time. It's just you and me.
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  Speaker 2: Final segment, very quick show. We covered a lot. I'm
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: so glad no guest today, but the the few words
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  Speaker 2: listeners on Facebook life kept us going a lot of
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  Speaker 2: great questions.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of great stuff out there happening right now.
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  Speaker 3: And it is the time of year we're we're getting
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  Speaker 3: into it with spring. You know, you're planting your tomatoes,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: you're planting your spring gardens. No peppers quite yet. You know,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: you're getting into the cucumbers, and you know that no pepper,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: not quite yet. You know that's along with peppers, spranting,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: planting your spring flowers. You know, so now's the time
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: we're transitioning from pansies to petunias, you know, stock all
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: kinds of wonderful annuals and premial peppers. What's the hottest
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: pepper you've ever eaten or tasted? I don't know. I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: probably just halowpanion or not, probably just hobb in air.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: I cannot go past that. I'm not a taste Carolina reapers.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's some people actually on YouTube that have these
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  Speaker 2: channels that they're they're kind of sewers. They're like wine tasters,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll have two or three peppers in front of them,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: very hot, and then they'll, you know, they'll take a
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  Speaker 2: bite and go, okay, now the heat starting to come
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: up a little sweet that it gets kind of soury,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: and they're breaking it all down to if it was me,
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  Speaker 2: I would just be like, my tongue's on fire. I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: can't taste anything, Get me out of here. Well, but
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: they savor it.
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  Speaker 5: You know what we should do since we do do Facebook?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: We do do we do do Facebook, We do Facebook
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  Speaker 5: Live and it be fun to watch it is. There's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: a show that is out there for a lot of
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: celebrities where they bring them on a show and it's
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: called It's the Hot Ones.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Eat Yeah, they go right down the line. They start
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: with kind of a mild sauce and all the way until.
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  Speaker 3: And there is truth to it that when you eat
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: these foods and you have this reaction, you tend to
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: tell the truth more like you don't hide, you don't
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: you don't guys yourself as much. So it's a great
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: interview process because you can ask some real revealing questions
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: and the people will answer.
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  Speaker 2: That millions what it's a great concept.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: I forget the guy's name. He's got there.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: There's like sixteen million subscribers and they have no problem
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: getting celebrities on there.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: I know, which is super funny because they tell really
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: revealing stuff. He'll interview them.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the late eighties, this movie you were
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: in and tell us about the director and stuff, and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: they're they're eating, and you're right. It's almost like truth serum.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: It is, And so we should do that one time
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  Speaker 3: where you know, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I can't eat anything. I'm telling you I can't go well.
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  Speaker 3: But that just means after a couple of chicken wings
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: you'll be spilling your guts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's people that have no business eating these
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: ghost peppers or Carolina reapers, and they panic because there's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: no relief and they get up and they're they're they're
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: doing like a tribal war dance, you know.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: I mean there's all the things like oh, eat salt,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: drink milk, Well, none of it really makes it go away.
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  Speaker 2: The only but you're right. First of all, water is
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: like throwing gas on a fire. They people want to
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  Speaker 2: drink water. Ice Cream or dairy is probably the best
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: thing you can do, right, milk, ice cream, but not water,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: not anything.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't like make it go away. No, you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: still have to just suffer throat.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: It curtails it a little bit. Yeah, it curtails it
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: because because some of these challenges, you eat it and
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: you gotta wait five minutes before you have anything milk, dairy, anything,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: And you.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Know, it's funny we talked about this and talking about
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: being gardeners and and yes, if we have peppers in
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: our yard, we usually are pretty savvy to that as
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: far as like working and then like you rub your
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: eyes or something, and sure you have that on your hands.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: You gotta be real careful. You should wear gloves, you know.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: But there's even other plants out there that you got
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: to be real careful of too. So we have working
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: in the garden pencil a pencil plant. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: that has that milky white substance.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: You Dana got SAP probably thirty five forty years ago
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: before we met, which I inherited. It's pat but yeah,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: you gotta I wear goggles around that thing.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because your skin.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so who knows? It looks so innocent out there,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: And a gove is me working with a goave too.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: When I cut it, I'll be very careful. All wear
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: long sleeves, I'll wear gloves, I'll be very careful. It
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: always gets me. I don't even know how. I don't
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: know how it gets me. It gets me.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Gardening is dangerous. It is very Just don't get out
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: there and just you know, Willy Nelly start cutting things.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Not all of us are cut out for it. That's true.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of two or three minutes left, I
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  Speaker 2: think all we caught it.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Let me check.
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  Speaker 2: Have we done our job?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, I think we answered a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 3: Milk and yogurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Leonor let's see here. Wow, waiting a long anticipated launch
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: this evening. Oh, Colleen's up there and lompocking. They're going
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: to see a launch.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Oh from that Vandenburg Edenburgh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. The silence is deafening, isn't it. Right here
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: we go two minutes. Ghost Peppers, New Milk, Yogurt and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: I coourse peppers are the Serranos.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Every every year, somebody is trying to come up with
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: the the hottest pepper on Earth.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: You know this.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: They're measured by Schoolville units, as most of us know.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Margaret's going to be able to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: answer this question. She wrote, get some colder temperatures. I'm
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: thinking about the orchids and banana water every couple of weeks.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: What is banana water?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: What is banana water?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: The ut we're talking about? List of garden tours the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Utribune in today's edition has a list of garden tours.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: So Union Tribune, which is the local newspaper here, you
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: can probably go online and probably see that article on
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: their website. There. We're all cut up, lots of great answers.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Hopefully people will be more successful today after listening to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: the program and they learned. I'm inspired, are you?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I really am mean? I want to transplant, I want
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: to top off some soil. I want to do you know,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I hesitate to do too much feeding, but I don't.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I don't get that cold. I should be.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, yeah, you'll be fine. We're in the four
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: you're protected too. You're in a patio and we're in
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: the forties.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: We're not thirty two thirty five degrees.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not even. Yeah, you're even during the dead
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: of winter. You're not very frost stricken in your area
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: and it is protected. Yeah, so be fun. Get out there.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Do you ever use your fish tank water in your plants? Yeah?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: When when when the guy comes over again, I usually
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: I kind of help him a little bit. I say, yeah,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: go ahead and dump the water out there in some
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: of those plants. Yeah, just don't don't dump it in
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the plumb area, but dump it. You know everywhere else.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: It's probably got good stuff in there. It's absolutely because
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you can't have too many chemicals in that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: fertile in that No, because you.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Know what we're not using. We're not using city water anymore.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Well, but I'm just saying you can't have a lot
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: of chemicals in no, not at all. Now.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: One thing I did learn though going to more purified
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: water is he still has to treat that purified water
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: because it lacks certain nutrients and good bacteria that the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: fish needs. With that in mind, that's gonna do it.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Tiger.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you. John is back next week for the rest
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: of you on Bistalk Radio, Facebook Life. Thank you for
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: tuning in. Hope we all learn something today, good, better, indifferent.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: So enjoy the rest of your weekend. We'll reconvene next
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: week right here on guard in America for the entire crew.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I do want to thank Stephanie at Bistok Radio her
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: and your team for the entire crew here. John Magnasco
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Tiger Palafox, I'm Brian Maine. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Be safe. We'll do it again next week right here
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: on Garden America. Take care to