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CTK-40: The BIGGEST Problem in Rugby? Broadcasting, U20 World Championship & Weekend Predictions · Cut The Kak

• Byron: Welcome back to another episode of Cut the Cuck, the show where we talk about the sport we absolutely love but seem to know very little about. That clown over there, that's Chad. I'm Byron. Chad, let's cut the cuck. Chad: the cockpard. Welcome back. Hello. Byron: More cut more cuck to cut. Cut and cut and cuck. Chad: lots of it. I'm trying to move myself but I can't seem to do it. Byron: All right, so Chad, there is all international rugby going on. We've got some under 20 rugby world rugby championship to talk about. We've got the nations championship to talk about. We've got the nations cup to talk about. We've got the ladies' spring box to talk about. And everything else in between. So where do you want to start? Chad: Mm-hmm. Let's Let's start with the ladies, because that's kind of where it all started. Byron: A one off. Yeah. Nice little curtain razor for the box game at Loftus. this one didn't go as well for them as the last one. they lost by a try, 20 19 points to 26 against USA Women. But exciting stuff. I mean, it looks good. I don't know what the big plan is. Like you said, there was that one post that said South Africa. Women's rugby has been taking it seriously for a minute and they already you know, beating teams in the top ten. Chad: It was good. The only thing I have about that game and it's nothing to do with the woman's rugby itself. It was impossible to watch. Couldn't watch it yet. Byron: Unless you had Super Sport, couldn't do it. I wonder if Supersport would be willing to give us access to an account that is not geo blocked. Chad: That was. That would be amazing, but it would violate so many, so many... Byron: International broadcasting and television rights. Chad: international rule but they would make an absolute fucking fortune. Byron: It's been it's I think as a South African leaving South Africa, not having super sport is the toughest thing to adjust to. Chad: Mm. Yeah, it is probably the best. Yeah, Buff are the best broadcaster for sports. Byron: I don't know how good we had it. Hundred percent. Everywhere else you go, you've got to have seven hundred different subscriptions and you still miss half the games. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, I just wish, and it's out there, it's just after move to South Africa to have it, that there was one subscription to be able to watch URC, Super Agbe, Woman's Box, Springbox, Just. Byron: Nations Championship, Nations Cup, under 20 rugby champions. It's all in one place. Varsity Cup, French top 14, premiership rugby. I'm assuming the MLR, I'm just gonna throw it out there. No one cares about it, but I'm assuming it's on Super Sport. it's why is it that maybe that's why South Africa thrives, because everybody can watch all the sport all the time whenever they want. Chad: varsity cup, craven week, high school rugby. Yeah, probably. Byron: when it comes as a sporting nation. Everywhere else you have to fight for the ability to watch the games. In South Africa it's almost everywhere. Almost. The S T V is expensive, but you know. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Worth it though, from... Yeah. I mean, in Oz I know it's bad. Byron: I mean if you combine if you combine what you pay for the URC, what you pay for super what do what do you have? Sky Sports, New Zealand, and any everything else you need to watch all the cricket, all the footy, all the rugby, everything. You're you're gonna pay more than what you're paying for DST V, which is the crazy part. So like Chad: Yep. 100%. Yeah, that's the full package of DSDV. Byron: Now I'm not following this, so please get me wrong. well please correct me because I'm definitely gonna be wrong. Canal Plus purchased DSTV, which if I'm not mistaken is a French company. Now, hear me out. Make it available in Europe. The exact same product. Chad: Yep. Byron: Now I know that every country's gonna have a problem, like here in the Netherlands they use Zigo Sport for some of the rugby. But that's some of the rugby. I want all of the rugby. Chad: Yeah. I, I get maybe someone that's got a bit of product knowledge. Like product knowledge, product knowledge on this kind of stuff. wonder how much better it would be if they weren't like, so I know. Sky sport is the only ones that can hold it because they have an exclusive broadcast rice to super ugly. If that wasn't a thing and you could have it on. Byron: Mm-hmm. Chad: all the different subscription services that you wanted to say, fucking Netflix wanted to buy the ragby or Apple TV wanted to buy the ragby and you could watch it there. And if you wanted to, you could have it on Sky Sport. How good would that be? You wouldn't have you'd have your broadcasting rights cost. would all go down for one. And people would have choice of where they wanted to watch it. When I watch Netflix, go watch Netflix. When I watch on fucking YouTube premium. Byron: Mm-hmm. Do know what the problem with that is? Those arseholes with the and I call them arseholes because it shouldn't be this difficult to watch sport. those arseholes that have the rights, they have an inferior product, yet we are forced to pay it because there's no other way for us to watch the sport unless you do it illegally. And the whole point of this conversation is for us to support rugby and pay for it. But like Chad: I know that's what I mean. Byron: I it's it's it's imp it's so hard to try and find every competition everywhere you go. Except there's one solution which we can't use and that's supersport. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So Chad: Yeah. Super sport, canal sport. know that there was worries that they were going to change the way, how much rugby was being shown, but a couple months ago it was announced and nothing, nothing changed, which is an absolute win. Byron: There would be there would be riots in South Africa if they're less than the number of rugby that's available. There's Craven Week rugby, there's varsity. Now the curry cup is starting. and here we are complaining instead of watching. So, you know, if anyone can find a way or has a better product in Super Sport, let us know. But I just want to watch. It shouldn't have to be this hard. It doesn't have to be. Chad: Yep. Yeah. I think there is one. Yep. Byron: But okay, that's enough bitching for one one podcast. There's a lot more bitching to come. let's talk I think if we go in order on which they were played, we've got some the last round of the pool games to talk about from the under twenty world championship, which has bled into now the knockout stage is occurring all the same day as we're talking. But Chad: Yeah, that was a was a lot of grim for the first seven minutes. Hmm? Yep. Byron: If we go back to Tuesday last week, as we mentioned, the big games were basically knockout games. And that was New Zealand versus Italy, where New Zealand under 20s dominated 45-15. Then Argentina under 20s versus England under-20s. What a game. And the ending was insane. I don't know if you caught it, but Chad: watch it now. Byron: England led most of the game and Argentina came back during the second half. Incredible comeback to watch. In any case. Then there was a knock on in the 79th minute by Argentina, and you thought the game was over. England have a scrum, pass the ball to the fly half for him to kick it out. Misses the kick. Argentina regather the ball. Play goes on. I wish I wish they had a Chad: What? Byron: a a phase counter for how many phases was in that attack from their 22 moving forward. and then it keeps going. If I'm not mistaken, Argentina score. There's a TMO check, and they reverse the try, and it was the end of the game. England win by two points. Chad: God, okay, I'm gonna try and that again. Byron: It and I think it was a held up try if I'm not mistaken. but when Sam Winters missed that kick for touch, all hell broke loose. Incredible game. so unfortunate for Argentina, but a great way to to to to end the game. what are the other big ones? We had South Africa under twenties was Wales. Chad: Okay. I was surprised that that game wasn't a bigger scoreline. Byron: I said look, Wales played well. it took a minute Chad: Yeah, almost better than the actual whale side. Alright. Byron: Not saying much. Chad: Yeah Byron: the it took a while for the scrums to get started, but once South Africa got started on those scrums, those poor boys. They got scrummed into their moof. Yeah. Chad: It does seem unfair how it's throughout the entire tournament. Byron: At every level. Club, under twenty, box, doesn't matter. Yeah. Chad: I'm talking like in this in this particular tournament so far all the scrubs that we've had it's just such a weapon It's it's borderline unfair Byron: Yeah, because like usually the scrum is a an attacking platform for you know, for small gains. Now if you get a penalty from it, we're getting thirty meters every time we scrum. Which is a little bit of a cheat code. and then the other one I had was the second try for the box. Ethan Adams, the inside center. I'm so glad he signed for the Lions, let me just tell you. Chad: Yeah. bro ethan Adams is a freak Byron: But Ethan Adams, yeah, that's the problem with the Lions, isn't it? We had Brian Habana, we had Malcolm Marks, we had Fafta Clack, all of them said doe. but that Ethan Adams and what's that? Chad: Yeah, hopefully they keep him there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is the most Dutch thing you've said on this entire podcast. That's the most Dutch thing you've said on this entire podcast. Byron: Actually you're right, when I said doi I thought about the same thing. I was like, shit But him, yeah, him and Achmed had fuck what a beautiful trial. What a Chad: Yeah, it's all right. It happens. But it's not just like the junior box under 20s. It's not just that we have like ungodly talent. It's the set pieces that they just execute so well. And the phase plays that you can clearly see has been run a million times on the training pitch. Just being able to translate that into an actual game. So it's not just the great players. We also have to think about who's coaching that side and what a great job they're doing. Byron: And their execution of complex skills is also for me in insane at the under twenty level. Chad: Yeah. It's much higher than the other boys. Byron: Like it's it's not basic rugby that they're playing at all. It's it's such high skill. Chad: No. I think it's going to be a New Zealand South Africa final. Byron: Well, yeah, so the France beat Australia by five points, which brings us into the games that were played on Sunday, which was for the thirteenth place semifinal and the fifth place semi-final. so for that Japan destroyed the US seventy one twenty-one in the thirteenth place, and Spain destroyed Uruguay fifty seven sixth. So USA and Uruguay will see play for bottom place, and then Japan and Spain will play for thirteenth. Chad: next week. Byron: And then in the fifth place semifinal, Scotland beat Argentina and Wales narrowly beat Australia by two points. so Wales versus Scotland for fifth place and Australia versus Argentina for seventh and eighth. Chad: Yep. Byron: Then if we go according to what you're saying, because today there's four games. There's the ninth place semifinal, which is Georgia versus Italy, and Ireland versus Fiji. And then the other two semis, the main semis, France, New Zealand, South Africa, England. So you think New Zealand beat France and South Africa play England in the final? I mean, South Africa beat England and then will play New Zealand. What a I mean, look, I think the best teams made it into the semifinal. It should be this way. So I am curious to see how it unfolds. I think that France-New Zealand game is also going to be pretty epic. Chad: All the teams in those important, as you call them, are unbeaten. Byron: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's gonna be good rugby. if you're awake and got time today. Definitely tune in to the under twenties. Chad: So, mix. I'll try wake up for the other one. It's at 430 my time. I can do that. I can have you wake up for that. Byron: But yeah, y there's no reason for you to wake up for that France New Zealand game then. Chad: No, that's at two o'clock. There's no chance that after you wake up at that time to watch the box play. The points difference for each pool. I was really quickly touching it. France in Pouli, plus 60 points. England are plus 37, New Zealand are plus 57, South Africa, 144. Byron: That's fair enough. That's fair enough. I didn't even look into that. Let's have a look. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. It's it's crazy to me. and another thing, I know you and I spoke about this like at the beginning of the pod when we started or like beginning of the year, whatever it was. The the run that the spring box are currently on is in is it's never been better to be a box fan. Chad: Yep. I was thinking about this weekend and I guess we can talk about it now is at some point we have to lose at some point and we spoke about this the other day like which games would you like to lose or which ones would you be willing to accept this year coming up? Byron: We have to lose. Chad: Can you imagine if it's this weekend? Byron: No ch chat at whales. What Chad: But look, the reason why I was talking about the under 20s, I saw a thing that apparently two of the boys in the under 20s might not be playing in the under 20s today because they're going over to Durban to go and play against Wales. Byron: To the box. Chad: So, I mean, it was just an Instagram post. I don't believe everything that's on Instagram, right? Just saying it now. But if that's true and we put out a very different team to that we put out last week, which was again, yeah, that's what I'm saying. And we do that again. That much change against the whales is a bit risky. Byron: Well we put out a very different team against Scotland. huh. Go to a C team. Chad: Even if it's Wales, still an international rugby team. Byron: Did you hear what Russi said about this? Chad: Can you imagine if that's the game? No? Byron: So I was listening to one of the post-match interviews. I think I sent it to you on Instagram. He was saying that it's important for these players that may not have the same amount of experience to to play in a match where they're not always winning. To play in a match where the crowd goes silent. to play in a match where they lose players. To play in a match where things aren't going their way. Because they need to have the experience to come out of that. on the other side as a better player. And he says even as coaches, they need to experience this as well. Because things aren't always going to go your way. And when you go to a World Cup, you need to be able to put anyone in any position at any time under any circumstance and they need to do well. So I think, as we spoke about, Russi doesn't mind losing a game between now and the World Cup. Because he's got experimenting to do. And if the experiments go his way, great. If they don't, then we learn something new. Chad: Yeah. Byron: But I think you can put anyone who's good enough to be of Springbok against Wales at the moment, and we would still win. I think you c this is gonna this might come back to bite me, but I think you could put the under 20 side that beat the under-twenty Wales against Wales this weekend in Durban and they might get a win. Chad: Jesus. Yeah, okay. Byron: Yeah. Chad: Look, I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but it's wild. Wild statement. Byron: I'd look, I think it would be I think it would be a good game. I don't know if the under twenty box could pull it off, but if Chad: I think the forwards would struggle just because of size difference. That's all. Byron: Size and and experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially the the type three. Chad: Just, I think, think just size by itself would be rough. Byron: Yeah, but then would make the game even because then we wouldn't be getting scrum penalties. It would be more of a you know, so then it's it's it's up to to Ahmed and what's his name? The the center that I just spoke about him. Ethan Adams. It's up to those Oaks to Lorenzo Julius go out there and put on a performance. You know, I mean Julius played in the URC, so he's he's played against some of those boys. You know what I mean? Chad: normal game Ethan Adams. You rip it. He knows. Yeah. I was gonna keep refreshing because apparently Rusty is going to do Rusty things again and drop the squad in the next couple of minutes. Yeah. Byron: put the squad out seven weeks early. That would be nice to catch during the recording. But do you wanna hop into the championship? How things unfolded there and look at the table. so we got all of our predictions correct. Chad: For the Rugby Nation Championship, yes. Everything one of them. Bang, bang. Byron: Yep. Yeah. Except the cup the cup we let our hearts get the better of us, but that's okay. Chad: Bro, yeah, I've got, I've got two things. So those two games that we, we spoke about, about Hong Kong, China and Zimbabwe bro. If yeah. I'm yeah. Look at it. All right. Do you want to run through the results? Byron: Yeah. Do you want to just do Nations Cup first? Sure, sure. I'll go through the results and then you can stop me at any time when you want to say something. first game, banger. Banger. Uruguay Romania, thirty-six all. Chad: 36 yeah, I watched the highlights of this one. Yeah. Byron: I enjoy I actually watched every minute of that game because it was in between Yeah, it was between the box game and the Argentina game. What a game. Chad: Did you? Yeah, I was having my, I was dreaming when this game was on. Byron: Yeah. Then Georgia ran all over Samoa and this one was interesting for me. Spain ran all over Tonga. Did not expect that. I did not expect that. Chad: Yep. No. Byron: Which means that I know Spanish rugby was on the the up and up, but Chad: Yeah, that'll be exciting. Byron: To beat Tonga thirty two nineteen is is is not an it's not something to to look over. You know what I mean? For Spain coming into this World Cup. I think it's very exciting for for for Europe rugby, for European rugby. then this one we want to talk about the number of cards, but Chile vs Hong Kong, China, thirty eight twelve. Chad: Bro, if they, if Hong Kong China was able to keep players on the field, they would in that game. They just had, what was it? Four yellow cards and a red. Byron: It's Chad: It was, it was. Byron: Yeah, they played you know, you they played more than half the game with fourteen players and portions of the game with thirteen players. Chad: Yeah, majority of the game was played with 14 men Because when look here so they got nine minutes they got their first yellow card nine minutes So he was off for ten minutes, right? Old mate came back for four minutes Then they got a card then it's Byron: Even at the best of the best struggle at that. Chad: Then the first, just before the second half, the oak that got the first yellow card got another yellow card 20 minutes red. So he was gone for 20 minutes and that was from the quarter to 40th minute to keep it simple. 40th minute he's sent off, chilling, gone, having a shower. Then 61th minute they get another card. 61st minute another card. So this Byron: Twenty minute read. Yeah, it's Chad: And yeah, after every single cod, Chilli got a trap. So take away. Byron: Yeah. So you keep all fifteen men on the field and you get a different result. Chad: Yep, but the boy showed heart in Granton. But a kiss, some would say. Byron: I like being biased towards Zimbabwe and Hong Kong China now that we've spoken to them. I feel I f I feel invested in these two programs. Chad: I it. But I like I love it. I absolutely I was literally Googling where to buy a Hong Kong jersey. New Zealand turns out you can't. But I'm absolutely buying those two jerseys for the Rugby World Cup. Hmm. Yeah. And they'll just be on rotate. Byron: Ha ha For the World Cup? Hundred percent. Hundred percent. Then the US did get the better of Zimbabwe. However Chad: Bro, what a fucking, that was such a good game. Byron: I love Zimbabwe' style of rugby. I love it. It's so fun. I don't I don't know why we've been deprived of this for so many years. Chad: It's so fun. Mmm. It's a transporter. I want to see him in the Crusaders or in the sharks. Somebody at either of those teams, sign him up, please. Byron: I you know what? The the the curry cup is coming up, starts this weekend. A curry cup side would benefit so much from having Emanesta on in their team. Chad: Yeah, no, want him here where I can watch him. I want him. Yeah, put him in the Tasman marker. Byron: 'cause you wanna go watch him live, you greedy prick. But you know what? Put him in the cheetahs and let him ride. Chad: You know actually you you actually right the cheaters have to win Not this curry cup after when they take up next year okay, so Byron: Next curry cup, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Edward Zigwake would be perfect. Chad: Bro, is unreal. He just I understand why they call him the transporter because he's just he gets into places where he shouldn't be in no time. His acceleration must be up there with the best. Byron: The transporter, yeah. It's his footwork as well that is just it's and he's young. He's so young. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Chad: Yeah. at 22. Cooked. Yeah, I want to see a lot more of a couple of those boys. They're centers are rock solid. Yeah, I know. Love their style of rugby. So, so good. I think the more game time they have like this, and I think it's fantastic that this Nations Cup is happening. They're only going to get better. Because I think even if you look at the Zimbabwe game from last week to this week. Better. Byron: Mm-hmm. Yes. And I think Chad: Same thing with Hong Kong China. They looked so good this week. Byron: Well, it's because they're they're they're playing, you know, mm high level competition on a weekly basis now. This is something that we were crying for, screaming for at the top of our lungs for these rugby world rugby like, We need to grow the game, we need to grow the game, we need to grow the game. Now they're finally playing one another. So the only way for these teams to get better is to play teams that are better than them on a regular basis. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, you know what? World Rugby should just have a streaming service where all the World Rugby games... Take my money, take my 40 dollars or whatever, how much? 50 f**king dollars? What? Byron: So Do you know what it is? So so rugby pass, for example, has all of the games in available in the country you're in if they're not showing it on their local provider. What I mean by that is so yesterday on Sunday were some under 20 games. And Zigo Sport, which is the one of the rugby providers here in the Netherlands. They were showing the the semifinal games for the fifth position playoff, but they weren't showing the thirteenth place playoff. So you could watch the thirteenth place playoff on rugby pass, but you couldn't watch the fifth place playoff on rugby pass because Zigo Sport paid wherever the fuck they gotta pay in order to do it. I don't I would love to know. How many people watch that game on Zego Sport versus how many people watched the fifteenth place play or thirteenth place playoff on Rugby Pass? And then I just wanna don't I just wanna know those numbers because if my assumption is correct, more people watched it on Rugby Pass than watched it on Zigo Sport in the Netherlands. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And if that's the case, there's a much easier way to solve this problem. And that's put everything on World Rugby. Let us pay World Rugby a monthly subscription and let us just watch everything. And if you have it on your local provider, sure, cool, no problem. They can watch it on there. They don't need to pay World Rugby forty bucks a month or whatever it might be. But Anyways, that's that's kitchen. Chad: be so good they just share the profits with all the teams and clubs they make so much money like if i did that didn't have to have a VPN and do all this c*** to watch rugby Byron: Yeah, it's not I just yeah, yeah. And then the last game, sorry, I know I got distracted. Portugal beat Canada thirty eight fourteen. Chad: Sorry. as expected. Byron: So looking at the pools, you got Chile on top of the one with USA in second, Samoa third, Tonga, Uruguay, Canada. And the other group you got Georgia, Spain, Portugal, Romania, Zimbabwe, and Hong Kong China. Chad: Mm-hmm. Hey, good. Byron: I'm loving the nation's cup and I hope that it continues to grow. Chad: Dude I hope that it's here to stay, it is so so good. I've been loving it. I've been watching so much rugby though. I know, it would be lacquer if it wasn't at the exact same time. There's just so much rugby to watch. The family hates me. Byron: 'Cause we just don't get the chance to watch these other teams. I saw I saw a clip that I didn't really agree with, but when I read the comments, a bunch of people like, it makes so much sense. They were complaining that with this competition that why is rugby one of the sports where all of the fixtures have to be on a Saturday? Why don't we so like for the nations championship, do two on Friday, two on Saturday, two on Sunday. Chad: This is a... It's a great question. Byron: Not a bad idea. Chad: They do it for super reggae. Why not do it for this competition? Byron: But Super Rugby is usually one or two fixtures on the Friday and the rest on the Saturday, no? Chad: We have some on Sunday. Byron: Yeah. I mean look like if you look at the big football leagues, they all do Saturday and Sunday and occasionally a Friday. Chad: Yeah, I mean I love Friday Footie. It's not bad, finish work, crack a beer. And, Byron: Not a bad idea. I still like the majority of the fixes to be on a Saturday, but put one on one on Friday night, four on Saturday and one on Sunday. Chad: That's exactly what the brag beat is. Byron: Let's it. All right. Well, Dragby, you heard it here not first, but you heard it anyway. Chad: Yeah, we... the people want it. The people want it in the streaming server so we can just watch all the rugby in one place and you can take our money. Take it. Byron: And then also you can do it any day of the week because you have the ability to do whatever the hell you want. Chad: Yeah and we can do commentary for you guys post game commentary it'll be great Byron: Or be something. I don't know if great's the word I'd use, but do you wanna do Nations Cup predictions for the final week? Chad: Great, great's the word Byron. Look at us go. Sure. Byron: 'Cause I did him last week. So let's go. Starts off ooh, nice early game for me. Samoa versus Romania. Chad: Samoa. Byron: Okay, interesting call. Romania's been playing well. I like it. Uruguay, Hong Kong, China. Chad: Hong Kong China baby. If they can keep 15 men on the field, Hong Kong China win that game. Boys, please keep the boys on the park. You need them to score tries. Byron: I know. And to defend trials from coming in. Chad: and to defend trials but yeah some of their trials are unreal in that game. Did you watch the full game? Yeah the trials they scored were insane. Anyway next game hit me. Byron: I watched the Halats. I didn't unfortunately I fell asleep. Chili Georgia. Ooh. Chad: Georgia? Byron: That feels like a almost like a a decider for the Nations Cup in terms of like top teams. Chad: Georgia Woods. Easy. Next. Byron: Okay. Another good game. Tonga, Portugal. Chad: that's a good one. I think Tunga wins. Tunga. That's a good one. Byron: Mm. I just can't believe I mean if Spain beats Tonga, Portugal should be Tonga if you do rugby math. But we'll see what happens, I guess. Then USA Spain. Chad: Should be. USA and Spain, Spain, yeah, sorry. Byron: I'm going Spain on that one. Yeah, Spain. Canada, Zimbabwe. Chad: Disabled's win it. Disabled's just getting better. Yeah, they win. Byron: Let's go. Transporter hat trick. Perfect. Then shall we dive into another fantastic weekend of international test rugby in the nation championship. Chad: Hell yeah. Byron: New Zealand, Italy. Forty seven seventeen. Close game in the first half. and then I texted my brother and I said, Unfortunately, these games normally fall apart at around the sixtieth minute, where I feel like the the teams that are punching above their weight just run out of gas. Chad: Yeah. Yep. Yep, unfortunately it fell apart in the 42nd minute for Italy. Byron: They don't it don't even take sixty. Chad: No, was like, I think that second half, it was like going to a chicken farm and just, there was just chaos and... Byron: It was chaos. there's something from the under twenties I forgot to mention. Chad: Baron. What? Byron: Yeah we go hopping around again. Did you watch the Fiji Spain game? Under 20s. So so sp is it was it Fiji Spain? Let me just double check, sorry. I know I'm I'm hopping around. Chad: No Okay, maybe the post commentary was not good idea. Byron: That I told you already. It was no, it was Fiji Australia. Excuse me. No, I'm confused. No, it was Fiji Spain. I'm I'm correct. Fiji Spain. Spain kicks the ball, clears the ball. Fiji player runs in. Looks like a late challenge. Referee says no foul play. Next time the game stops, the referee walks over to the Spanish player and says, This is not football. There will be no diving here. Chad: Yeah. Byron: He says that number 15 wasn't hit late and his dive was dramatic. And after when I watched it live, I thought the same thing. Then you watch the replay. Look, it wasn't necessarily foul play, but the Spanish kicker got hit late. And he got hit in the pip. He got so what happened was the Fiji player came in for the charge down. And when he followed through, he caught the Spanish player right here. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Byron: at full speed wi it with with his chest. I just thought it was it was nice to see referees yeah, just being like no diving here and you watch the replay back and he got fucking moored. That's what I Chad: Mm. Insult injury. I wonder if the ref went, fuck, after the game. Sorry. Byron: Yeah, I'll watch the game back and he goes, shit, maybe I should send him a text. Alright, I got distracted. Sorry. New Zealand destroyed Italy. I loved it. Chad: Yeah, second half, Chicken Farm, Unreal. Byron: And look, I know I give him shit all the time, but Cody Taylor was an absolute beast in that game. Which, you know, you kind of have to be because of who they got coming off the bench at Hooker for New Zealand. Like if if Cody Taylor doesn't absolutely dominate, then Summerson's going to start. Chad: Yeah, he's a beast. Yeah, he definitely wanted it. Yeah, I think I mean in my opinion I would have it the other way around I would start takiao and then bring on Taylor Byron: So Cody Taylor almost has to play. See, but I think I think the thing is, so Cody Taylor, obviously, as much as I talk shit about him, fantastic hooker, great experience, always in the right place, great runs, got speed, all of those things. But Summersone has this unstoppable strength when he runs. And I think bringing him on with thirty, twenty somewhere, thirty minutes left of the game, twenty-five minutes left of the game, you bring him in. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Against tired players? Chad: Yep. Byron: I think he makes a bigger impact off the bench than Cody Taylor would. Not saying Cody Taylor wouldn't do great things coming off the bench. He's good no matter how much shit I give him. But I think Samasani's got a a a a a higher level of impact coming off the bench than than Cody would. But yeah, just just because he's a bowling ball of terror. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, just physically. Yeah. Yeah. Byron: then the Gypna the Australia France game. Chad: Right The Australian's always not a fuck something up, like what were they it was 21 12 or something yeah 21 12 i was in full australian mode i was they're gonna win this they're gonna beat france it's gonna be good and then Byron: Just fell apart. Chad: Just 50th minute. Did they even score in the second half? Yeah, the 77th minute. Byron: Yeah. Thematic volumes. Chad: The only thing that they got in the second half was a yellow card. Byron: Do you know what I found interesting in that game? They play the same position, but they have the opposite builds. And that's the number four and the number five for France. Florian and Emmanuel. So Florian, ooh, I'm gonna get this one. Verheiji, Vhage, something like that, and Miafu. Chad: Yeah. Yep. Byron: I the fact that they play the same position but are built completely the opposite to one another is insane. Both tall boys, but one of them's a hundred and forty five kilos of just death and the other one's like, yeah, he he's a lock. Chad: It's right, Yeah, that's where it stops. Do know who in this game who I think Australia actually needed was, what's his name, Will Skelton? I know he plays for a French club, I don't know why he wasn't, or if he's even in the squad or training for Australia, but he's a absolute, he's a problem. And that would have been the perfect oak to bring on to this game. Byron: You are so right because I think that the the French pack is what made the difference in that game. I don't think I look, I think Frazier McRright and Harry Wilson are probably not the best, but at the moment the best players for Australia. And I don't think those two guys have the size and the strength compared to to what the French put out. Chad: 100 % Yep. yeah yeah that's it's true like they had colorhan who did well in williams but if you put even a colorhan and will scalton i think it makes a difference especially in like lineart stuff yeah and that's what the friends do i'm sorry i can't can't wait for us to play them fuck it's gonna be good Byron: Absolutely. The the French just had big, big, big boys out there. I I was thinking we've got a such we've got a much harder northern tour than this than our southern tour. Chad: Do we? Byron: Because we have England, Scotland, Wales now and then later on this year we have France, Ireland. And who am I missing? Italy. Chad: Italy. I don't know if that's gonna be hard or... Byron: Chat is the one's got Wales. And the way England are playing, you could put England in that category. Chad: Let me look, that's round four. Hang on, hang on, hang You got me looking here now. Round four we play Italy. Round five we play France. yes, I get to watch rugby at 9am. Byron: Okay. So we end off against Ireland, France and Ireland in the northern series. Very interesting to see and watch. Chad: And then we play who we play in the final who you reckon france it's got to be france island. Yeah Byron: France or Ireland for sure. Did you see? I know we haven't got into the box game yet, but now we've beaten all six of the six nations teams in one calendar year. Chad: Clean sweep, baby. Yeah. Byron: I can't I can't wrap my head around the people that say the Six Nations is harder to win than the World Cup. Chad: It's the same people that think England are the best team in the world. Byron: Brother, brother, brother. okay, then Japan losing to Ireland, expected. But I do want to call out some hush shittery about that game. Why was it played in Australia with only 8,000 people in the stadium when Japan had twenty five thousand people the week before in Tokyo? Chad: Yep. Hit me. I have no idea. It was... it looked like a club rugby game. I think one... I don't think anyone knew that it was being played there, for one. And there was... and there were... every single one of them were shouting for Ireland. There wasn't a single Japanese fan there. Byron: So I saw a thing. It looked worse than a club rugby game. It was eight thousand people. I ha I what I saw was a post saying that it was done in order to minimize the amount of travel for Australia. Because Australi excuse me for Ireland. Because then Ireland would have gone New Zealand, Japan, and then where they go for the third round. No, excuse me. They would Ireland would go Australia, Japan, New Zealand. So to minimize the travel for Ireland, they played the game in Australia. But I call bullshit on that because Scotland played in Argentina, then flew to South Africa, and now in the final week, they okay they're going back to to to Scotland to play Fiji. But if this competition holds, that would have been Argentina, South Africa, Fiji for Scotland. Chad: Absolute bullshit. Yeah. And also Japan, Australia, New Zealand, not actually that far away from each other in the grand scheme of things. Byron: Compared to flying from Argentina to South Africa, exactly. Chad: to Argentina and... Yeah. Yeah. Byron: so is it to favour Ireland? Maybe. I don't know. But if money is the big thing, eight thousand people versus twenty five thousand people is a big fucking difference when you're making money. So will drug rugby. Let's let's have a look at that. And it's not as if they can use the same excuse for Japan that they're using for Fiji, where they say they don't have the infrastructure. Chad: Well yeah, the week before that there was a fucking World Cup played in Japan. Yeah. Byron: Yeah, yeah, exactly. They've got everything they need to host three three countries for three games. They'll be perfectly fine wherever you put them. So Chad: Yeah, that's actually a fucking great point Byron. I reckon if you had Fiji play in Japan you'd have a better turnout than they have had for their last games. Byron: Well You genius. That's actually not the worst idea. Chad: You'd have 25,000 people every week. Byron: And it's closer to Fiji than it is for f the Fijians to travel to Scotland and England and Chad: Yep. Byron: And I and you know what? I think the Japanese would love it. Chad: 100 % it's one of the most growing sports there at the moment, the highest growing sports there. Byron: Genius idea. Genius idea. But looking at that game and the team that Ireland put out, do you think the the obviously there was a few tries at the end by Ireland and it made the score line look more flattering. But do you think that was a sign of lack of depth in the Irish camp? Or do you think it was a great performance by Jap by the Japanese and their growing rugby? Or bit of both. Chad: I it was a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. I think it was a bit of both. But I said it and I'll say it again. Irish rugby is getting weaker. Scottish rugby is getting better. And I feel like this is just showing it. Things happening slowly. Maybe it was a wake up call because, I mean, the scoreline, like you said, doesn't really reflect what actually happened in that game. Byron: No, 'cause I got some some late points on that that skews the the the result. Chad: Yeah, they got that penalty and tried the end. Byron: Yeah. Chad: But yeah, no. Byron: Because twenty twenty six looks like a much more realistic score line for the game. I don't think Japan should have won, but twenty six twenty is a much better score line for that game. Chad: Yeah. Byron: But that just shows then that means Irish rugby at the moment doesn't have the same depth as say New Zealand or France or South Africa. Chad: Yeah, not even Australia. Byron: Well, Australia's gotta win something before we can talk about their depth. Chad: Yeah, Australia. Dude, they won the first off. Let's give them that. Byron: Yeah, it means nothing. Then Henry Pollock scoring a hat trick against Fiji. Chad: I didn't watch that game. I had to choose which games I could watch for this. I re-watched the game after it happened. Byron: Yeah, that's okay. Chad: I felt bad for Fiji. Byron: That couldn't do anything. Chad: Nothing, just they just got outplayed in Byron: every department. What's your opinion on the red card? Chad: every department of that game, which sucks. in the first half, yeah. I want you to referee thinks of it. Byron: I say red card. Easy decision. I know what I did like was they did look to see if there was if Gange was holding on to him to like provoke a reaction. It was just silly, it was unnecessary, and I don't think there's place for it in the game. I think gig send him Chad: Yeah. No. I it was also just it was I reckon it was only because it you know how frustrating it must been to go through that first half and get three points and you giving your absolute fuck you just get frustrated I reckon that's what it was Byron: The frustration was real for sure. I do think that that English kit they shouldn't probably wear it again. I don't think it was a nice kit at all. Chad: The black blue. Byron: But what I did find interesting, Marcus Smith at Nan. Chad: Yeah. Byron: He's a little little sneaky nine if he stays there. Cause I think defensively, Marcus Smith struggles against the bigger back line players. Yeah. So him at nine, given his stature and his style of play. Chad: Yeah, but I think you will Bigger boys. Yeah. Byron: I think there's something to to say there. Chad: What about, Yann-Sophon Rinsburg who came on for, for, for them and scored. Yeah. What a, just flying the South African flag sneakily there, which is pretty cool. Byron: And getting a trion debut? He's a he's he's got the potential to be a big problem for the rest of the world. Chad: Hmm and yeah, it'll be good He was fun to watch. Before he's, when did he come on? Like 70th, 60th minute or something? Yeah. Byron: It was fun to watch. It was early in the second. But seventy three eight is is brutal. you know, the Fiji rugby we watched coming into this competition was a lot better than what they've done in the last two games. So I don't know what's happening. Chad: Yeah, she's rough. We'll see who they play next. play Scotland next. Byron: I think Scotland outside of France are the best team in the northern hemisphere at the moment. Chad: in Scotland. Yep, I think you're right. Byron: so I think Fiji are in for a little bit of a hurt to finish off the competition. Or finish off this portion of the competition. Chad: Yeah. Byron: then the big boys. This game had everything. Chad: Look, it was code brown at halftime. Halftime I was... I was a little bit worried. But then, yeah, second half, 60th minute, we just put the gas on. Those two tries we let in in the second half in the 68th or whatever minute it was. incredible tries. Fantastic. The gaps that they found and made were amazing, but that should not have happened. Byron: Sixty seventh and sixty ninth. No. No, no, no. I would love to hear what Rusty had to say about those two tries come into the game. Chad: I reckon the Oaks were lined up and Rassi had his Shambok and was fucking beating the boys. Byron: Yeah. Imagine the the the the the the drills, the s running drills they had to do Monday or Tuesday at training for that. Chad: the drills that will be run off those two trials scored by Scotland. Fantastic trials though. I don't want to take that away from Scotland. Incredible. Cause they made that those gaps, I reckon that was probably something that they had targeted and were training for because they were pulled off both times fantastically. Um, yeah, so good. Uh, Pollard did well. Byron: Those two those 'cause those two trials shouldn't have it shouldn't have happened. Yeah, you can't take that away from them. Perfectly. That game had everything. Chad: Yeah. Byron: The reshuffling of the back line I thought worked out great and I also heard a interview with Russi where they've been practicing with Pollard at twelve. So when it happened in the game it wasn't too too crazy for them. Chad: You could have just played there a couple of times. Polard. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's Byron: Also losing Kane and Moody before the the game and then Ethan Hooker coming in and off on and off poor oak. something I thought that was interesting leading into the game, I saw a post from News 24, and they were explaining that sweetholders at Loftus had to pay an additional fee. Chad: It's no good coming in Yeah, well done. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Byron: on top of the annual fee they pay for their boxes, for their suites, for the spring bot game. Now the reason I'm bringing this up is because we spoke about ticket prices last week for the box. Now look, Loftus was basically full because if you got the box in Pretoria, you could charge an arm and a leg and it's still gonna be full. But is this is this South African rugby CEOs and decision makers and whatever trying to make as much money as possible? Chad: It's Loved Us. Byron: on the backs of the spring box performing better than they ever have before. Chad: Yes. Byron: Now, I got a question for you. What's more important? These assholes making as much money as they can in this point in time or having the fans support and the box playing the best rugby they've ever played at the moment? What's more important? The box or these bastards? Chad: Yeah, it'd Look, I don't think the money is just going to these bastards. Russie has spoken about it before and we, he said it's expensive to run a rugby team, a successful rugby team, the way it is. And it's not just special way he's doing it, but it's not just the spring box that this SA rugby have. Byron: Okay. Especially the way he's doing it. Chad: All the curry cup sides, they've got all of the junior box, the women's box. So it's not just the spring box money at the end of the day. It'll go through and get funneled down into all those different teams. Byron: The URC sides. Vaucity. Yeah. Teams. Yeah. Chad: That's why I think it's expensive. Think about what Apple do and what all the other tech companies do. There's a 30 % surcharge if you want to have your app on the App Store and make a purchase through it. Same business model. If you want to get access to your number one product, which is the App Store and how many billion people use iPhones, you pay that fee. Byron: Mm-hmm. Chad: Same thing. Byron: So you're saying it's okay to keep charging fans extra as long as the results keep going away because we're supporting the teams. Chad: you Look, within a limit, there's got to be a limit, obviously. You don't want to make it like a Super Bowl where it's like $10,000 per ticket. Byron: But now I got a question for you. Let's say you're right. Let's say this money is going to all of these teams the way that it should be. If you're a decision maker or a CEO or some high level exec, and you're charging the suites extra, you're charging the fans extra, whatever it might be, wherever this additional income is coming from that's supposed to support the South African Rug the South African rugby program as a whole. Chad: Mm. Byron: If these oaks start to take bonuses, do you then get upset? Chad: Yes. Again, within reason, if you've made a hundred million dollars in the calendar year Byron: Okay, but did he make the hundred million or did Sia make the hundred million? Chad: the whole team made, all the teams have made 100 million. I mean, a couple of years ago, would we be speaking about the junior box? Absolutely not. Would we be speaking this much about the women's box? No, and it's because we are doing better. Byron: Yeah. All the teams okay. But not to Okay, so then I'm looking at this post now. South African rugby president Mark Alexander. If this man takes a ten million Rand bonus at the end of the year, do you get upset? Chad: How much have they made? What's the... Well if he's made 10 million, is that 10 million dollars? Call it. Byron: I don't fucking know. Mmm, I don't know, man. I guess my fear is Chad: I dunno. If the money gets used correctly and is being used to fund a fantastic program, it's clearly fucking happening because there's more money being pumped into SA Rugby at the moment than there ever has been in its history. Byron: But when has that ever happened? I just don't trust when there's large pools of money around people. Yeah. Chad: If it, I don't trust people either. people suck. We know this, but I understand, understand, I understand the why. Byron: Now we just hope they're doing it for the right causes. Chad: Yes, that is my the only the only thing also the spring block team just got announced Byron: Alright. Hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're nearly done with the championship and then we'll dive into that. Almost there. Zachary Porthin. Chad: Yep. rather unreal. Byron: So I noticed this last week and I wanted to I play I paid full attention to it this week as well. The moment he came on, every single scrum he dominated his side of the scrum. Chad: Yep. Byron: I wanna know how strong this man is. Chad: Clearly pretty strong. Byron: I don't know how to do it. maybe we you know what? Let's go have a gym session with Mr Yeah. Like whatever whatever I back squat, he has to back squat, but you and I sit on the opposite ends of the bar as well. Otherwise it's not even fair. Chad: Let's go one for one. I'll watch. Yeah, no. Byron: But he didn't lose not only didn't he not lose a scrum, he dominated every scrum since he came on. But Okay, sorry, last one. Then it was brrrr Argentina beat Wales. As expected. And then before. Chad: We had someone in our comment section on TikTok say that... Argentina was gonna not win that one and that Wales was gonna win and that if Wales won we would both have to sing the national anthem on on here I Went and I had a look at the Welsh national anthem turns out pretty difficult to I made a bet saying that if If Wales somehow won that game, I would wear a Byron: Okay. Yes, 'cause it's not in English. Chad: I'd go buy a Wales jersey and wear a Wales jersey. Byron: Well what does this person have to do now that they were wrong? Chad: Watch your full podcast. Byron: Ha ha ha yes. Yes. Yes. Start to finish. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Perfect. you know look, Wales may have won a few games in a row, but it wasn't against any top com any top tier competition. Chad: Yeah, she was rough. I'm trying to find out how I can get to- Byron: do you wanna do the predictions for last week? for last week. For next week and then you can tell me all about all about those squads. Chad: Sure, I can do a bit of English for last week, it's easy. Hit me. Let's do... Let me get the squad, I'll see if I can share my screen here. Byron: Okay. Hold on, I got one more big actually I'll wait till after this to ask you. I've got a nice question for you. I'm all over the place. I'm on I'm on rugby crack. Chad: God, this, guy. Standard on rugby. Yeah, it's tough. I'm just trying to. Where is this thing? it's behind me. Byron: Ha ha ha. Chad: How do I do this? Byron: Share screen. Chad: Nah, I'm not doing that. Byron: Present slides. Chad: That's pretty much what I'm trying to do, but I want to show you the whole screen. Hello? there okay let's see how this works can i i do this It doesn't show. Did show? Byron: There we go. That's showing. Chad: That is the squad that's been announced for Durban. I'll let you take it in. Byron: Alright, so well let's go through it. We'll start with the props. Stiankamp, Marks, and Kalu Saadi. Chad: Yep. What do you reckon? Byron: Well we're definitely trying all of our props out. Chad: All 65 of them, yeah. Byron: We're making sure all of our props know how to scrum. Brother, how cool must it be to have both Visa brothers in your team? Chad: Yeah, almost unfettered. Again. Byron: Because both of them are just you know, I mean this with the utmost respect, but when they play rugby, the brain shuts off. And it's it's it's it's wild to watch. but you've got Kurbus Visa and Ruben van Hierden at locks. This is good. Another game for Paul DeVilius and Peter Steph the Toy. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. I liked Paul de Villiers. I think he had a fantastic game. where was it last week? Week before? Yeah. Yeah, but he had like a really good game like week before. Byron: Both games. He played both. He's like him and Peter Staff are the only ones that are playing every game. and then Chad: And Peter Stephens-Toyer, how do you go wrong with him? Byron: You can't not have him in your squad. Even at lock. Yasper Visa at eight is probably our scariest eight at the moment. Chad: Yeah. Yep. Probably the world at the... I think he's the best at the world. Byron: and then what's your opinion with I'm trying to think him and 'cause Ardy doesn't play eight anymore. Chad: That Byron: Trying to think maybe a French eight. I don't know. Anyway. Rainach at nine. I'm excited to see. This I like. Vusimoyo at ten. Chad: I love this whole, the whole back line. I can get behind the whole back line. Byron: Why am I drawing a blank on Yaku Williams? Chad: Yaki Williams because he was born in 2005. Byron: Who does he play for? Yaku. Chad: The shocks? Byron: actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I think I know exactly who he is. Yes. Chad: absolute blistering pace. Byron: Yes, okay. No, I now now I've now I've got a face to the name. yeah, I'm excited for that. Interesting choice though. Chad: Yeah, it is. Byron: Interesting choice to have him on wing and then have Creole and Dialende at center. Center pairing. Chad: Yeah. And if I say, think that back line's dangerous. We're definitely going for points in this game. Byron: And then I think the Yes. Because the bench also gets interesting. If you look at it. I'm a big fan of this these three on the bench for almost every game. Andre Hugo Fenta, Jan Hendrik Vessels, and Wilco Low. Chad: Yeah. It must fi- I know we've spoken about it before, the Pom Squad coming on, but imagine, like it happened last week where all three of our Oaks came on, same time. Byron: Yeah. Yeah. Chad: You've got arguably the best hookah in the world. Gathros, Dengkham and Apsari who are absolutely also would not want to scrub them. Byron: I'm excited I'm actually excited to see Karl Usadi again in a springbok jersey. Chad: Yeah. And then you see Volkalo vessels and Fenta coming on. You've just... my neck gets sore thinking about it. Byron: Yeah. My span compressors. Chad: Yeah, when you talk about Vilko Loe coming on the field, I get shorter. Byron: Ha ha ha. then again fantastic. What's this? A five three split. Ben Jason Dixon, Marco von Staden, for the last bit of the forwards. Then Scrum half replacement, Herschel Yankees, excited to see him back out there. and then you've got Libbock and Villemsa coming off the bench. Impact players, utility players. Chad: Yeah. Yep. Do you reckon? Byron: 'Cause you can play Villemsa pretty much anywhere in the back line at this point. Except maybe fly half, but you could if you needed to. Chad: Yeah. Do you think they purposely put Phillips on the bench and not starting with Dallendi so they didn't mix them up again from the end of match? Byron: And just get a just in case there's another man of the match award mix up. That was crazy. Chad: Yeah, maybe they'll do like a swap. But it's it's a it's. I need to have a look at how many changes they actually are in this team, because there was 10 changes from the Scotland game to. Byron: Look. Five, six, seven, eight, nine. Is this eleven changes for the starting fifteen? Chad: Let me have a... Yeah, it's got to be up there. Let me just... Okay, I'm going to stop shading this team. Byron: I'm pretty sure it's eleven changes. Yeah, that's fun. Chad: like that that actually worked. It was the first time doing it. We did it, tested it in production. It was so good. Mmm. Byron: We should do it more often. Chad: Let's have a wee look here. Byron: I got that wrong. Not Carlosadi back in a Springbok jersey. Carlusadi for the first time in a springbok jersey. I'm excited to see. Chad: Yeah, I know what you meant. I speak, I speak Byron. Byron: Thank you. so yeah, it is it is four uncapped players. For this team. Chad: See, that's what I saying, like... Rossi has gone with a... compared to what we can put out a much... I want to say weaker... less experienced team even though there's some players in there with a lot of experience you've got PSDF to toy you've got Vellumsa you've got you've got all the boys that you need to make get the job done Byron: Mm-hmm. Yes. Chad: It is still at end of the day. Byron: What? Chad: bit of a weaker team, less experienced team, than we would normally be. I don't want Wales to be the team that we lose to. That's what I'm trying to get to. Byron: Yeah. Yeah, that would I'd look I still think that the strength of the squad is enough. But yeah, losing to Wales would put a bit of a a dampen on the whole thing. But I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't know that's gonna h Chad: But if we did lose that game, that's got to be the only game we lose. Byron: Yeah, then we have to go four for four on the greatest rivalry. Chad: 4-4-4, we, all our SA teams beat New Zealand. There has to be, everyone has to lock in. Byron: We put a little bit of the hurricanes on them and put up fifty points each game. That is an exciting squad though. Thank you, Rassi, for that one. Chad: Very different. Yeah, thank you. Byron: Thank you, U. predictions for next week and then I got a question for you. Chad: Okay, hit me. Byron: New Zealand, Ireland. Chad: I'm eating pork, hey. Mmm. Byron: This is a banger. Chad: This is a banger. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go to New Zealand. Byron: Uh-huh. Close game or not so much? Chad: think it's going be a close game. hope it's not. But I think it's going be a close game. Yeah, I think it's fair. 12+. Byron: I think New Zealand by twelve. Twelve plus. there's only one really one real answer here, but Japan, France. Chad: France? France? Byron: Australia, Italy. Chad: If Australia don't do this, I'm boycotting them in any regular they play. They should go down to, you what happens? If they lose this game, they need to be relegated down into the cup and give us, give us the sables, get the transporter in and he'll show us how it's done. Byron: To the Nations Cup. Ha ha ha. Look, Italy stand a realistic chance of winning this game. There's a concerned look on your face. Chad: No, not concerned. Frustrated. I wanted Southern Hemisphere's teams to do well and win. Byron: Yeah, but I always want Italy to win for some weird strange excuse me, strange reason. okay. Then we got Fiji Scotland. Chad: Look, Scotland. Byron: Yeah, I think I think Scotland beats almost all of the Southern Hemisphere teams at the moment, except for New Zealand and South Africa, of course, because we beat them already. South Africa Wales. Chad: Wales, joking South Africa. South Africa but I think it's a bit closer than we think this game. I'm thinking, I think I looked at the betting odds for this game. Do you what the line is? Byron: Twenty. No. No. Mm-hmm. Can you bet on South Africa this time? Can you bet on South Africa this time? Okay. Chad: You can do the line. You got the line is. Byron: Yes. Chad: No, like, okay. Kiss the line. Byron: You ask me if I know what the line is in general or the line is for that game. I know. Chad: for that game. Do want to guess what it is? Byron: Seventeen? Chad: 36 or 35.5 was what it was this morning when I looked. Byron: It's Chad: Cough cough cough Byron: I wonder if those I wonder if that number will change now that the squad's been released. Chad: I hope so. But yeah, 36 points is rough. Byron: That'll be interesting. Then so we start the weekend with w a great game and end it with a great game. Argentina, England. Chad: Where's it being played? In Argentina. I'm gonna go... Byron: Estádio único madre das cidades. Chad: Where's that? Byron: In Argentina. Chad: I'm going to go Argentina. Byron: I hope so too. I'm gonna agree with you on that one just because I think obviously I want the the Southern Hemisphere teams to win. so to look at the logs. Chad: So we think that Southern Hemisphere teams have won is New Zealand, Australia, Springboks, Argentina, Fiji and Japan. Byron: How did we do how did we do so round one was three three. Round two is three three as well. Interesting. Okay. I got a question for you, Chad. Chad: Hit me. Hit me. I love the questions. Byron: This nation's championship has a bonus point rule, and that's you score four tries, you get a bonus point, you lose within seven, you get a bonus point. If I'm not mistaken, Super Rugby does you have to win by you have to have three tries more than your opponent to get a bonus point try. The bonus point for the tries. Looking at this weekend's games, a lot of teams got their bonus point in the first first half. Chad: Yep. Yep. Byron: Do we need to look at the bonus try rule and have a change there? Because attacking rugby has big rugby union, they keep adjusting things to be more attack friendly and attack minded. So I don't think four tries is this amazing thing that's achieved anymore. I think most games, both teams in some cases get four tries. Chad: I think so. Byron: So should it be to win by three or more tries, or do you think it should be six tries, get your bonus points or something like that? Chad: No, I like the the three trials or more than your opponent. I like that. I like it more. keeps the dynamic, keeps the boys. It makes it way more exciting for when you're in a game that you hate, you need a bonus point. Byron: So to keep pushing yeah, 'cause if you're winning by two trials, for example, yeah. Chad: you've got your bonus point here you can go into full defensive mode and Byron: Win the game. Chad: Yeah, just chuck over flashbangs over the defensive wall and hope that no one gets in Byron: That's a good yeah, maybe you're right. I was thinking of changing it to six tries, but three more than your opponent might actually be the way to go because four tries is just not challenging enough anymore. It it's you know, most games everyone gets a bonus point. Chad: No, if Pollock can score three by himself, then you know it's a problem. Byron: Yeah. So okay. Well that was my question for you. Maybe nothing too too fancy then. Chad: No, just take what Super Rugby is doing. I mean, they're doing everything right. They've got the most viewers they've ever had. They've got... Byron: you're such an arsehole. and then the other law change that they're experimenting, I want to get your opinion on, is 90 under 20 championship, where high tackles are sternum and up, and they're not using TMO unless it's serious foul play, but they're going off what the referee sees as sternum and up for high tackle. shoulders and up. Chad: Yeah, but that is a good rule. Mm-hmm. What was it before? They're lowering it. Byron: Yeah. Basically you gotta tackle below the ball. Chad: I don't like it. Byron: Think the reason they changed that was because players were just offloading so easily. But then what you have noticed there's so many players head on head when they try and tackle that that upright tackle. So I do get the the idea for the change, but we'll see. I don't know. It's interesting. I like it. I'm a fan of it. Chad: Yeah. Yep. I don't know how feel about it. I don't. I think it's going to be so many more penalties given. Byron: Fair enough. Chad: slows down the game and Byron: We know that's the worst thing imaginable to World Rugby. Imagine the game slows down. The chaos. Chad: Yeah, I Yeah, I don't know. don't think you can lor it anymore. In a couple years time, you're going to be able to hit someone in the fucking chins. Yeah. Oaks is going to fucking flipping grass cutters all day. Byron: In the kneecaps. I think we are done. Unless there's more cuck you want to cut? Chad: No, I can't wait to see Moyo score three tries and Yakku Williams score tries and Sari score his first try on debut. It's going to be excellent. Byron: I just want him to to win win a scrum penalty off the bat. Chad: I'm sure he'll... I'm sure Wales will make that happen. Byron: and then also shout out to anyone who's subscribed to us on YouTube or following us on Instagram. we're we're we're doing we're doing some cool things and we just wanna say thank you for everyone who's supporting. It goes a long way. Chad: Yeah, does. I never thought that we would have this many subscribers and people watching. thank you. Byron: No. But it's cool that we do and we are gonna continue to talk nonsense and continue to grow hopefully. So thank you for supporting. Thank you for watching Cut the Cuck.