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- 0:12Speaker 1: I do really love Dick and Julia's relationship. It's really
- 0:15Speaker 1: come together, it's really blossom.
- 0:17Speaker 2: It seems like they've gotten so close.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Oh, it's such good friends. They got each other's backs.
- 0:21Speaker 3: They do and at and T apparently has both of
- 0:24Speaker 3: theirs as well, which is nice.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she has a great story to tell and
- 0:27Speaker 1: Dick's just always been there.
- 0:28Speaker 2: For Yes, it's the impression I get as well.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Yeah, good morning to you, and happy Monday to you all. Yes,
- 0:37Speaker 1: coming off a terrific weekend, nice chilly morning, It's it's
- 0:41Speaker 1: like ideal conditions out here right now, as far as
- 0:44Speaker 1: I'm concerned. Of course, I am the founder and president
- 0:47Speaker 1: of Breeze Club, so I love a good breeze. I
- 0:51Speaker 1: like a good overcast morning. And so I'm sitting out
- 0:55Speaker 1: here in my jacket and my cracking hat here at
- 0:58Speaker 1: Seahawks training camp and just loving live right now, Ashley
- 1:02Speaker 1: really am.
- 1:03Speaker 3: I am in the studio with my parka over my legs,
- 1:06Speaker 3: and it's actually a little warm, which is unusual because
- 1:09Speaker 3: usually my fingers are like almost purple because it's so
- 1:11Speaker 3: cold in here. So I almost kind of want to
- 1:14Speaker 3: turn the ac up so that I can feel what
- 1:16Speaker 3: you're feeling.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Oh, it feels like that'd be more magical.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but not everybody goes for a good, chill,
- 1:25Speaker 1: chilly morning with a breeze in the summer. Maybe you
- 1:28Speaker 1: wouldn't like it. I don't know. If you're already all
- 1:30Speaker 1: bundled up, maybe you wouldn't like it out here. I
- 1:33Speaker 1: don't know.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't like being hot all the time,
- 1:35Speaker 3: so I really do embrace those mornings where I come
- 1:37Speaker 3: outside and I'm like, oh, it's cool down.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I hate when you come out in the morning and
- 1:41Speaker 2: it's still warm.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Well, i'll be back in studio tomorrow, so it's a
- 1:45Speaker 1: bad time to make this suggestion, But do you everything it?
- 1:48Speaker 1: Just like, you know, put my face like drawing it
- 1:51Speaker 1: on a volleyball, and have it in there in the
- 1:55Speaker 1: seat at the studio, so it kind of feels like
- 1:58Speaker 1: you're out here with me.
- 1:59Speaker 3: I can say I have never thought of that, but
- 2:02Speaker 3: I would not be opposed to it.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, next year, yeah.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Something to look forward to, something to plan ahead for.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Next year when we're completely blinded and caught off guard
- 2:13Speaker 1: by training.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Camp comes right exactly.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't put that plan together, all right, abcs
- 2:20Speaker 1: of the M's coming your way a little later on
- 2:21Speaker 1: this hour. Of course, the Mariner's coming off a very
- 2:25Speaker 1: interesting weekend, very nostalgic, very warm, you know, great history,
- 2:31Speaker 1: great ceremonies, certainly, but we've already talked about that a
- 2:35Speaker 1: couple of times. Let's talk about the other side, the
- 2:37Speaker 1: ugliness of how this team has played this season and
- 2:41Speaker 1: how they find themselves right now in a big battle.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have a hole that's too big
- 2:47Speaker 1: to overcome. They can, they can overcome it, but they
- 2:52Speaker 1: also seem to be in this shallow hole holding a shovel.
- 2:56Speaker 1: They are digging the hole deeper for themselves at a
- 3:00Speaker 1: time we were hoping they would have dug themselves out
- 3:03Speaker 1: of this, and they're getting ready to go on the
- 3:06Speaker 1: road for what you might argue is the roughest road
- 3:09Speaker 1: trip they've had so far this season. At the Yankees,
- 3:13Speaker 1: at the Astros, at the Brewers over the course of
- 3:16Speaker 1: the next nine games, and they had been playing horrible
- 3:20Speaker 1: baseball on the road this year. It was at home
- 3:23Speaker 1: where they found their sanctuary, and yet you played like
- 3:26Speaker 1: garbage at home here as of late as well. So
- 3:30Speaker 1: it just hasn't turned around it just hasn't. We've isolated
- 3:35Speaker 1: certain moments in certain games that they pulled out and
- 3:39Speaker 1: we circled them and thought to ourselves, that's the turning point,
- 3:43Speaker 1: and it didn't end up being a turning point. They've
- 3:45Speaker 1: played well for two or three days at a time,
- 3:48Speaker 1: but we have not seen them play well for a
- 3:50Speaker 1: week or more at a time this entire season. Everybody
- 3:54Speaker 1: in baseball does that at least once during the course
- 3:57Speaker 1: of the year. The Colorado Rockies went on a two
- 3:59Speaker 1: weeks tear not long ago, but this team just has
- 4:03Speaker 1: not found its groove this entire season. Even Stella got
- 4:09Speaker 1: her groove back.
- 4:10Speaker 2: God, come on, guys.
- 4:12Speaker 1: You would think that the Mariners could as well. It
- 4:14Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. And we're running out of time, Ashley,
- 4:17Speaker 1: for that to happen.
- 4:18Speaker 3: Yeah, And on Friday, when we talked about it before
- 4:20Speaker 3: going into a series where we were swept by the Rays,
- 4:23Speaker 3: I even remember saying, I haven't given up on this
- 4:25Speaker 3: team being able to do it, but I've given up
- 4:28Speaker 3: on thinking these special moments are going to translate into
- 4:33Speaker 3: something bigger. Yeah, Because I mean, we have no proof
- 4:37Speaker 3: that they are able to turn that into anything, which
- 4:39Speaker 3: is I think the most disappointing part for me, honestly,
- 4:42Speaker 3: I think it you know, the amount of times we've said,
- 4:45Speaker 3: as you were pointing out earlier, the Dom home run,
- 4:48Speaker 3: the Cole Young home run, there was There's been three
- 4:52Speaker 3: or four times in the last month and a half
- 4:54Speaker 3: where we've been like, that's it, that was the moment,
- 4:57Speaker 3: and nothing happens, and I just cannot figure it out.
- 5:00Speaker 3: And I watch this team and I still keep turning
- 5:02Speaker 3: on every game thinking to myself, Okay, well I know
- 5:05Speaker 3: they can do it.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Like I know they have the skill to be able
- 5:09Speaker 2: to do this.
- 5:09Speaker 3: I mean you're looking at their stats after the game
- 5:12Speaker 3: and how many people were zero for four or oh
- 5:13Speaker 3: for three, and you know, just disappointing that way. You're thinking,
- 5:17Speaker 3: I know these guys could do it if they could
- 5:18Speaker 3: put it together. But I just don't know that I
- 5:20Speaker 3: have the faith that they can put it together because
- 5:22Speaker 3: they're just not showing up day in and day out.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of that fence now as
- 5:29Speaker 1: of this weekend, I'm on the side of the fence
- 5:31Speaker 1: of I know you have time to come back from this,
- 5:34Speaker 1: and I know you're capable of coming back from this.
- 5:36Speaker 1: But I now am on the other side. I don't
- 5:39Speaker 1: think you're going to do it. And that's the first
- 5:41Speaker 1: time I've been here all season one, and it's very frustrating.
- 5:46Speaker 1: And I saw a very frustrated Jerry Depoto get interviewed
- 5:50Speaker 1: Friday by MLB Network, and that was before three straight
- 5:54Speaker 1: losses to the Tampa Bay Rays where you could not
- 5:56Speaker 1: create any offense. And the Tampa bay Rays can pitch,
- 5:59Speaker 1: there's no que les about it, but they're not. I mean,
- 6:01Speaker 1: you weren't. You weren't going up against you know, uh,
- 6:06Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan, Michael, Mike Scott, you know, and Joe Sambido
- 6:12Speaker 1: to pull out a name from the past. You weren't
- 6:14Speaker 1: going up against one of the greatest rotations of all
- 6:17Speaker 1: time this past weekend and you still could not summon
- 6:21Speaker 1: any kind of offense whatsoever. So I am I'm on
- 6:25Speaker 1: the side of thinking they're you know, they're probably not
- 6:29Speaker 1: going to come back. They're probably not going to get
- 6:32Speaker 1: this done this year. And frankly, they lead the league
- 6:35Speaker 1: in players sad faces lingering in the dugout long after
- 6:40Speaker 1: another disappointing loss. It was Brian Wu who the cameras
- 6:43Speaker 1: captured on Sunday. We've seen it numerous times. I think
- 6:48Speaker 1: they're at a loss. I don't think they can figure
- 6:50Speaker 1: it out. I think I think that they are as
- 6:53Speaker 1: mystified as I am as to why this team is
- 6:56Speaker 1: not in much better position than what they are right
- 6:59Speaker 1: now and not getting better, actually getting worse. For them
- 7:03Speaker 1: to have performed this poorly offensively this year, I just
- 7:08Speaker 1: never saw it coming. I thought this was gonna be
- 7:11Speaker 1: a year where they were going to win the division
- 7:14Speaker 1: quite easily and that we wouldn't have all of this consternation,
- 7:19Speaker 1: hand ringing, wondering when they were going to break out.
- 7:22Speaker 1: I didn't think we were going to have that type
- 7:24Speaker 1: of a year. I never said they were going to
- 7:27Speaker 1: guarantee you win the World Series. I don't even think
- 7:29Speaker 1: I picked them to win the World Series. But I
- 7:30Speaker 1: did pick them to get to the World Series, that's
- 7:33Speaker 1: for sure. But I did, and I was very firm
- 7:38Speaker 1: on this. I did think that this was going to
- 7:41Speaker 1: be a year where Mariner fans could have just enjoyed
- 7:44Speaker 1: a year and not spend the entire season wondering when
- 7:48Speaker 1: they're going to snap out of some long funk. Well,
- 7:51Speaker 1: we're in a four and a half month funk, and
- 7:54Speaker 1: a four and a half month funk probably means that
- 7:57Speaker 1: is who you are, and that is grossly disappointing at
- 8:00Speaker 1: this stage.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and you and Bucky have always said, you know,
- 8:03Speaker 3: there's you're gonna win forty games, You're gonna lose forty games,
- 8:07Speaker 3: and then the other ones are kind of showing you
- 8:09Speaker 3: who you are. Right, There's gonna be some you're gonna
- 8:11Speaker 3: win by luck, and some you're gonna win by bad luck,
- 8:13Speaker 3: and then it's the others that you're gonna really get
- 8:15Speaker 3: a sense of who this team is. And I have
- 8:17Speaker 3: no sense of who this team is at all, not
- 8:19Speaker 3: from the from the losses, none of it.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I don't not short sample size anymore. This is a
- 8:24Speaker 1: large sample size of playing this way. Yeah, so the
- 8:28Speaker 1: outliers have been the good moments, frankly, Yeah, and so well,
- 8:33Speaker 1: so we start the blame game. I mean, I know
- 8:35Speaker 1: that that's going on. It'll go into the offseason, and
- 8:40Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people are gonna ask
- 8:42Speaker 1: for heads and call for heads and firings. And I
- 8:45Speaker 1: have already stated that I would have fired Dan Wilson
- 8:49Speaker 1: coming out of the All Star break, and I still
- 8:51Speaker 1: think I well I know I would do that today.
- 8:54Speaker 1: I would do that today to try to create some
- 8:57Speaker 1: sort of fire, some sort of inspiration. Logan Gilbert told
- 8:59Speaker 1: you offty and faint. If somebody did that, I'd be
- 9:01Speaker 1: really angry. Well, good, get angry. Let's let's get some
- 9:05Speaker 1: people angry. Then let's shake things up a little bit.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Hard to defend Kevin Sitzer, you know, yeah, I thought
- 9:11Speaker 1: he did a terrific job a year ago. But it's
- 9:14Speaker 1: hard to defend him right now when this offense has
- 9:16Speaker 1: been bad for four and a half months. Even Edgar,
- 9:19Speaker 1: even the great figure that Edgar is in this organization,
- 9:23Speaker 1: this isn't the first time that they decided you're not
- 9:26Speaker 1: the right guy for the job. So the I mean,
- 9:29Speaker 1: there's really no defense if you decided to overturn your
- 9:35Speaker 1: offensive game plan for the rest of the season to
- 9:39Speaker 1: try to create some sort of spark or fire. I
- 9:42Speaker 1: don't know if I would sit there and stroke Kevin
- 9:46Speaker 1: Seitzer's hair and tell him they did you wrong, Like,
- 9:49Speaker 1: You've had plenty of time to get this offense going
- 9:51Speaker 1: this year and it just hasn't happened. And I mean,
- 9:54Speaker 1: I think about that as people start doing the blame
- 9:57Speaker 1: game and I said, I'm gonna be bullish about this,
- 9:59Speaker 1: and I will remain this way into the offseason. Look,
- 10:02Speaker 1: I don't defend Jerry to Podo, as I've been accused
- 10:05Speaker 1: of because there's some sort of personal relationship between Jerry
- 10:10Speaker 1: and I. I just happened to think he's a really
- 10:12Speaker 1: good executive who's done some dumb things. But I think
- 10:17Speaker 1: this team should have won more than what it has
- 10:19Speaker 1: in the last five years. And I certainly think they
- 10:22Speaker 1: should have won more. I think that yeah, he doesn't
- 10:25Speaker 1: he doesn't ace every test, but we should be in
- 10:29Speaker 1: a championship window. We should have been competing in a
- 10:32Speaker 1: championship this year. And I think he and Justin and
- 10:34Speaker 1: their ability to draft and developed and the farm system
- 10:38Speaker 1: that they've created once into the best farm system in
- 10:41Speaker 1: the sport, and then again those guys are being used
- 10:44Speaker 1: now and now we've got him again. I think those
- 10:46Speaker 1: are the things that an executive does. Now. I came
- 10:49Speaker 1: down on hard on him. I think he's had some
- 10:51Speaker 1: bad moments and press conferences that I've come down hard
- 10:55Speaker 1: on him. I came down hard on him for a
- 10:57Speaker 1: number of years for not making that move at the
- 11:00Speaker 1: trading deadline and protecting your prospects too much. You can't
- 11:04Speaker 1: fall in love with all of them. I don't know
- 11:06Speaker 1: how many times that I've told Ashley and Bucky that
- 11:09Speaker 1: you can't fall in love with all of your prospects
- 11:11Speaker 1: all the time. Well, they've loosened up on that a
- 11:13Speaker 1: little bit. They even traded for two rentals at the
- 11:17Speaker 1: end of last trading deadline and another one this year
- 11:21Speaker 1: in Taylor Ward, which is something they wouldn't do in
- 11:24Speaker 1: the past. So they loosened up on that. In the offseason,
- 11:27Speaker 1: they traded away two of their top what fifteen prospects
- 11:31Speaker 1: to get Brendan Donovan. So they have changed some of
- 11:35Speaker 1: the things that I hated about them and criticize harshly,
- 11:39Speaker 1: oh by the way, over the course of the years.
- 11:42Speaker 1: And then maybe the thing that I criticized the most,
- 11:45Speaker 1: I wanted Jerry out of the offensive room. I didn't
- 11:49Speaker 1: want him to determine how this team should approach its offense.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And I beat that drum for a number of years
- 11:58Speaker 1: until the point where Jerry he absolutely took himself out
- 12:02Speaker 1: of that. You don't hire someone as accomplished as Kevin
- 12:06Speaker 1: Sitzer and then bring Edgar Martinez back out of retirement again,
- 12:10Speaker 1: if you're gonna sit there and fiddle with everything that
- 12:14Speaker 1: they do and still try to be a big voice
- 12:17Speaker 1: about how the offense is gonna operate in your organization.
- 12:21Speaker 1: He handed that thing over to those two guys, absolutely
- 12:25Speaker 1: handed it over to them, and you're not getting the
- 12:28Speaker 1: results you got him last year, but you're not getting
- 12:30Speaker 1: the results from that one year later. So I'm not
- 12:34Speaker 1: gonna I mean, Jerry's got some blame in all of this,
- 12:38Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna lay the blame at the feet
- 12:40Speaker 1: of a guy that you know, cleared his hands of
- 12:44Speaker 1: the offense and handed it off to two accomplished offensive
- 12:48Speaker 1: minds and offensive coaches. I'm also not gonna blame Jerry
- 12:52Speaker 1: to Poto because Cal Rowley hit won sixty this year.
- 12:55Speaker 1: That's the biggest factor as to why this team's seven
- 12:58Speaker 1: games under five hundred. We all col nobody more so
- 13:01Speaker 1: than this show in the entire town. And yet his
- 13:05Speaker 1: won sixty batting average and thirteen home runs and twenty
- 13:10Speaker 1: six runs scored. Do you realize how paltry a number
- 13:14Speaker 1: that is twenty six runs scored? A part time player
- 13:17Speaker 1: scores twenty six runs in a season at this type
- 13:21Speaker 1: of this and our aircraft carrier sixty Homer col No,
- 13:27Speaker 1: face of the franchise, Superstar contract extension. That guy has
- 13:33Speaker 1: scored twenty six runs this year. That is impossible to believe.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I'm not gonna blame Jerry to predict.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Impossible to predict. You're absolutely right, Ashley, and I'm not
- 13:46Speaker 1: gonna blame Jerry for that. Should Jerry have traded cal
- 13:49Speaker 1: Raley this offseason, could you imagine burn the city down
- 13:55Speaker 1: had cal Raley been traded. But he's supposed to foresee
- 13:58Speaker 1: that happening. Josh Naylor got extended. We all wanted Josh
- 14:02Speaker 1: Naylor to be extended, right yep, Hey, the organizations. The
- 14:06Speaker 1: organization identified Luis Castillo, Julio Rodriguez, cal Raleigh, Josh Naylor
- 14:15Speaker 1: and paid them, paid them market value for their services
- 14:19Speaker 1: to keep them as the nucleus of this team. And so,
- 14:24Speaker 1: of course the organization doesn't wildly spend and should spend more.
- 14:29Speaker 1: We all want them to do that, But the guys
- 14:33Speaker 1: that they chose to spend money on are probably the
- 14:37Speaker 1: biggest problem right now with the team in twenty twenty six.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Josh Naylor was great the other night. He's the only
- 14:45Speaker 1: one that was great, but he was great the other night.
- 14:47Speaker 1: But for the most part this season, he's been a
- 14:50Speaker 1: major disappointment. Col's been a colossal disappointment, and Luis Castillo
- 14:56Speaker 1: had to spend most of the season trying to justify
- 15:00Speaker 1: his spot and the rotation. No, that's that's that's spending money,
- 15:06Speaker 1: and yet those guys that you spent that money on,
- 15:09Speaker 1: none of them stepped up. Julio has been better than
- 15:12Speaker 1: I hate to even lump Julio in with these other guys,
- 15:15Speaker 1: he's been better than the other three and for most
- 15:18Speaker 1: of the season, but he's still not been the player
- 15:21Speaker 1: that we thought that he was going to be. And
- 15:24Speaker 1: so he's still not become the player that we all
- 15:27Speaker 1: think that he can become. Let's put it that way.
- 15:29Speaker 1: So look, look, I don't know, I mean to me.
- 15:35Speaker 1: The front office certainly take some blame in this, but
- 15:38Speaker 1: the players take the most blame. Where did you go?
- 15:41Speaker 1: Why did you play this way? And then who do
- 15:45Speaker 1: you blame? Or I'm not firing Cal Raley, I'm not
- 15:51Speaker 1: firing Josh Naylor. I'm not firing Julio Rodriguez. That be insanity.
- 15:56Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I may have fired Luis Castillo,
- 15:59Speaker 1: meaning I would have traded him, which I tried to
- 16:01Speaker 1: do the last couple of off seasons in my Crystal
- 16:03Speaker 1: Ball fore casts. But I'm I'm certainly not going to
- 16:07Speaker 1: blame Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander because Cal Rawley, Josh Naylor,
- 16:13Speaker 1: and Julio Rodriguez weren't the players that they should have
- 16:16Speaker 1: been this year. Those should have been three things that
- 16:18Speaker 1: you could have counted on this entire season. So if
- 16:22Speaker 1: I want to shake things up without disrupting all the
- 16:26Speaker 1: good slash great that this organization has going for it
- 16:30Speaker 1: right now, to me, that needle landed on Dan Wilson
- 16:36Speaker 1: because his job, Jerry and Justin's job is to give
- 16:41Speaker 1: us a roster that can win a World Series. That's
- 16:46Speaker 1: their job. And by all accounts, and I mean almost
- 16:49Speaker 1: all accounts, not all, almost all accounts national pundits, Las
- 16:53Speaker 1: Vegas me it looked like it looked like we had
- 16:58Speaker 1: the roster to contend for a World Series this year. Yes,
- 17:02Speaker 1: Jerry and Justin take on some blame for that. The
- 17:05Speaker 1: most blame goes to the players, not Dan Wilson, but
- 17:09Speaker 1: the middle ground and all of that is I'm gonna
- 17:12Speaker 1: blame the coaches and the manager. If I personally believe
- 17:17Speaker 1: that the roster should have gotten the job done this
- 17:20Speaker 1: year and it fell this far short, I'm not gonna
- 17:23Speaker 1: blame the front office. I'm gonna blame the coaches because
- 17:27Speaker 1: their job is to get the most out of the
- 17:29Speaker 1: talent that was provided. And my goodness, when you have
- 17:33Speaker 1: this many guys. We even had a Dom can Zone
- 17:35Speaker 1: breakout and a Cole Young breakout and an Emerson Hancock
- 17:39Speaker 1: breakout this year, and still because of the offensive woes
- 17:43Speaker 1: this year, because most of the guys you were counting
- 17:46Speaker 1: on were either unhealthy and unavailable or just bad this season. Man,
- 17:54Speaker 1: I'm blaming the players, but I'm gonna blame the coaches
- 18:00Speaker 1: more than I'm gonna blame the roster construction because I
- 18:04Speaker 1: believed in the roster construction at the time, and I
- 18:07Speaker 1: believe that the goal between in between who we got
- 18:11Speaker 1: and can we get the most out of them? That
- 18:13Speaker 1: rests more on the coaching staff than it does on
- 18:16Speaker 1: the front office. That's just where I sit, That's the
- 18:18Speaker 1: way I believe about it. And so no, I'm not
- 18:22Speaker 1: gonna call for Jerry's head this offseason or Justin's had
- 18:24Speaker 1: this offseason. But I have already gone on record as
- 18:28Speaker 1: to calling for Dan's job on this show, and I
- 18:32Speaker 1: would add if Kevin Seitzer doesn't make the flight to
- 18:35Speaker 1: New York, I understand why Ashley, because his job is
- 18:40Speaker 1: to get this team to hit. He's got proven, veteran
- 18:43Speaker 1: players that can hit, and none of them have hit right.
- 18:46Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, there's so many people that
- 18:48Speaker 3: are mad at Jerry Well. He put this roster together.
- 18:50Speaker 3: He did put this roster together, and this roster should
- 18:52Speaker 3: be performing better than they're performing. So if you're not
- 18:55Speaker 3: gonna get rid of all the players, which you're not
- 18:57Speaker 3: gonna do, and the only other option is to get it,
- 19:00Speaker 3: is to get rid of the people who are in
- 19:03Speaker 3: everyday contact trying to help this team perform. And if
- 19:06Speaker 3: his team is underperforming, then you have to look at
- 19:09Speaker 3: the people responsible for trying to get them to perform,
- 19:11Speaker 3: and that would be Dan and that would be his
- 19:13Speaker 3: coaching staff. And I don't like to say that anyone
- 19:16Speaker 3: should lose their job, but I'm still in the same
- 19:18Speaker 3: position of saying, I just don't know how you defend
- 19:22Speaker 3: him keeping it. I understand the you know what Logan said,
- 19:26Speaker 3: the players love him. I think that's great.
- 19:28Speaker 2: I love him.
- 19:28Speaker 3: I grew up as a Mariners fan. The last thing
- 19:30Speaker 3: I would I want Dan to be a rousing success.
- 19:33Speaker 3: But it's hard to look at this and think that
- 19:35Speaker 3: that's anything close to it.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Yeah, even ownership, which we all know, they've got a
- 19:40Speaker 1: history of being cheap, we all know that. But even
- 19:44Speaker 1: what they did spend on, those guys are not coming through,
- 19:48Speaker 1: you know. I actually read an email or a tweet
- 19:52Speaker 1: going after Ryan Divish about how we should have never
- 19:55Speaker 1: got rid of Hora Polonko Horiy Plonko's in one forty
- 19:59Speaker 1: this year and being paid twenty five million dollars a year.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't have had that on your payroll.
- 20:04Speaker 1: That's worse than ref Schneyder So money spending money. Jobs
- 20:12Speaker 1: of money might make you feel better, but it doesn't
- 20:15Speaker 1: solve anything. Juan Soto is making seventy million dollars a
- 20:19Speaker 1: year to play on the worst team in the National League. Yeah,
- 20:25Speaker 1: he made a huge difference, didn't he. I mean, I
- 20:29Speaker 1: want them to spend more, but I also don't think
- 20:32Speaker 1: this comes down on ownership, because the guys that they
- 20:35Speaker 1: did spend on have been our most disappointing players this season.
- 20:40Speaker 1: So to me, if we're going to play some blame game,
- 20:43Speaker 1: you know where mine goes, it would be the players first.
- 20:48Speaker 1: But then the coaches have the responsibility to take the
- 20:53Speaker 1: players that they're given and make them better. Can anyone
- 20:56Speaker 1: argue that the guys we had on this roster were
- 20:59Speaker 1: made made better by their experience here as a collective?
- 21:03Speaker 1: Some of them. Nope, Cole Young got better, dom Canzone
- 21:07Speaker 1: got better. But I don't think anybody can argue that
- 21:11Speaker 1: col that our our players were better than they should
- 21:17Speaker 1: have been. You know, yeah, And I don't think anybody
- 21:21Speaker 1: can argue that those players that we kept were bad players.
- 21:26Speaker 1: If you want to argue for res Nighter, fine, even
- 21:28Speaker 1: though his history suggests otherwise. But cal Raley, Josh Naylor,
- 21:34Speaker 1: you all wanted them back. There would have been anarchy
- 21:36Speaker 1: if we got rid of cal Rawley, because Jerry should
- 21:39Speaker 1: have seen that coming. In total anarchy. So that's where
- 21:44Speaker 1: I'm at, and I'm gonna be bullish about it for
- 21:46Speaker 1: the rest of the season and end of the offseason
- 21:48Speaker 1: as well. Just to warn you, ABC's coming your way next.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three k RFM. That's our
- 21:54Speaker 1: daily segment obviously we're not going to blow it off,
- 21:57Speaker 1: not with all this stuff to talk about. Yeah, we
- 22:00Speaker 1: left off of the letter p PUS for Panela. What
- 22:02Speaker 1: was your reaction when you saw Sweet Lou come out
- 22:04Speaker 1: onto the field?
- 22:05Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I just loved it. I love him
- 22:07Speaker 2: so much.
- 22:08Speaker 3: I wanted him to kick some dirt or run over
- 22:10Speaker 3: and grab a base and throw it.
- 22:12Speaker 2: But I just loved seeing him. It was great.
- 22:14Speaker 1: And it's so great, like like Junior even wanted to
- 22:17Speaker 1: get over there and like hug him like that. I mean,
- 22:23Speaker 1: he was a task master. He was, you know, he
- 22:26Speaker 1: was terrifying for goodness sake, And those hardest teachers that
- 22:30Speaker 1: you had are always your favorites when you grow up.
- 22:32Speaker 1: And maybe you didn't want, you know, mister Baker in
- 22:35Speaker 1: the sixth grade, but he ended up he looked back
- 22:38Speaker 1: on it like he was the best for me. You know.
- 22:41Speaker 1: That's kind of the way it works. And Sweet Lou
- 22:46Speaker 1: was an interesting nickname for a guy that could be
- 22:50Speaker 1: terrifying at times. But there's no denying how much all
- 22:53Speaker 1: those players loved him, including Dan. I mean, it's it's
- 22:57Speaker 1: very obvious. It's as obvious as the nose on your face.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just great.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Man. Q is for quality. You know, if I will
- 23:07Speaker 1: come down since you want me to, Jerry Depoto and
- 23:11Speaker 1: Justin Hollander, Man, am I tired of waiting around for
- 23:15Speaker 1: the three run homer Like this time has no ability
- 23:19Speaker 1: to create offense in any other way than to hit
- 23:23Speaker 1: home runs, and Aaron brings it up every single game.
- 23:27Speaker 1: And maybe you're right, maybe you're right to bring it
- 23:30Speaker 1: up during the course of the broadcast. But I'll tell
- 23:33Speaker 1: you what. We've misfaced the team that hit more home
- 23:37Speaker 1: runs than us this weekend, and that's not even part
- 23:39Speaker 1: of their game plan. You know. They struck out nineteen
- 23:43Speaker 1: times to our twenty six. They had fourteen hits yesterday
- 23:45Speaker 1: without a single home run to our four yesterday. They
- 23:49Speaker 1: put the ball in play, they put pressure on the defense.
- 23:52Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you have to build your
- 23:55Speaker 1: team that way. I think you should try to build
- 23:59Speaker 1: it around power if you can. I realize the shortcut,
- 24:02Speaker 1: the cheat code that a power hitting team has in
- 24:05Speaker 1: this sport, and it probably does win in the playoffs.
- 24:09Speaker 1: But I want to get to the playoffs, and this
- 24:14Speaker 1: team without the home run doesn't seem to have an answer.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Dan Wilson doesn't seem to have another plan at all
- 24:21Speaker 1: for scoring runs. And is it due to roster construction
- 24:25Speaker 1: or is it due to you just only know how
- 24:30Speaker 1: to wait around for the three run homer and hope
- 24:33Speaker 1: the pitching holds the team to two runs or more
- 24:36Speaker 1: that particular day. But the Milwaukee Brewers have been winning
- 24:40Speaker 1: a lot of baseball games lately, and they do it
- 24:43Speaker 1: in old school ways. They put the ball in play,
- 24:47Speaker 1: they run the bass hard, and that results in more
- 24:52Speaker 1: offense than what we the waiting around for the three
- 24:57Speaker 1: run homer team can create, and not just on not
- 25:02Speaker 1: just for the aggregate of the entire season either. I'm
- 25:06Speaker 1: just talking from a day to day basis. I just
- 25:08Speaker 1: think it gives you a better chance to be able
- 25:11Speaker 1: to have more than one way to score runs. Does
- 25:14Speaker 1: that not seem like it would behoove the organization to
- 25:19Speaker 1: either stack a few more players like that or do
- 25:22Speaker 1: a little more coaching that lends itself to that sort
- 25:27Speaker 1: of manufacture of runs. Because that's what the Rays did
- 25:31Speaker 1: to us this weekend. That's what the Brewers do for
- 25:33Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games every year. And the
- 25:36Speaker 1: Brewers seem to get into the playoffs without any difficulty
- 25:39Speaker 1: every single year. Now, once they get to the playoffs,
- 25:41Speaker 1: they're vulnerable because they can't hit the home run and
- 25:44Speaker 1: they usually get knocked out in one round. But man,
- 25:47Speaker 1: get into the playoffs every damn year, and then we'll
- 25:50Speaker 1: take our chances with whether or not or pitching in
- 25:53Speaker 1: our small ball on occasion, I'm not talking about that's
- 25:56Speaker 1: all I want to be as a small ball team,
- 25:59Speaker 1: but on occasion we might be able to scratch out
- 26:01Speaker 1: a playoff win with small ball. That just all that
- 26:04Speaker 1: says to me is at least we're trying to scratch
- 26:06Speaker 1: out a playoff win.
- 26:09Speaker 2: I would love that.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. We have one way of winning. We
- 26:14Speaker 1: have one way of scoring runs on this team and
- 26:17Speaker 1: a manager that doesn't even try to do it any
- 26:20Speaker 1: other way. I mean, we had a situation, what was
- 26:22Speaker 1: a Friday night cold Emerson. We had two guys on
- 26:24Speaker 1: and you could have bunted, and Emerson's shown that he
- 26:26Speaker 1: can bunt and he's hitting under two hundred, but nope,
- 26:28Speaker 1: let's swing away.
- 26:29Speaker 3: I mean same yesterday with Taylor Ward on the last
- 26:31Speaker 3: at bat. I mean we had two on and he's
- 26:34Speaker 3: you know, gets out of the warning track I I
- 26:37Speaker 3: and it's I do think that I'm probably partly not
- 26:39Speaker 3: me personally, but fans and people like me who are
- 26:42Speaker 3: watching till the end, just like, well, all we need
- 26:44Speaker 3: is a three run home run here and we can win.
- 26:47Speaker 3: I mean, because that's what happens in so many games.
- 26:49Speaker 3: And I still continue to think that they can do it.
- 26:51Speaker 2: And I don't know why.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's one thing if you're the Cleveland Indians,
- 26:57Speaker 1: the Albert Bell Cleveland Indians, and you you've got all
- 27:01Speaker 1: stars up and down your lineup, that one picks up
- 27:04Speaker 1: another guy on a nightly basis. That's not what this
- 27:08Speaker 1: team has been this season. And yet there's no adjustment
- 27:11Speaker 1: made and there never is. We just strike out a lot,
- 27:16Speaker 1: hope to get a walk in a single and then
- 27:19Speaker 1: if a guy hits a three run omer, we got
- 27:21Speaker 1: a chance to win, and if he doesn't, then we
- 27:23Speaker 1: don't win. I mean, I'd like to see them become
- 27:27Speaker 1: a little more versatile in the offseason. Maybe bring in
- 27:32Speaker 1: just a couple of scrappers that just put the ball
- 27:35Speaker 1: in play. That's what I want over waiting for our
- 27:39Speaker 1: nine guys in our lineup to maybe come through in
- 27:42Speaker 1: that one moment that you got two guys on base,
- 27:46Speaker 1: we had a three run om earon the seventh, or
- 27:48Speaker 1: we don't score runs tonight. That's kind of the way
- 27:50Speaker 1: it feels. Finally, R is for Rucker. I brought it
- 27:56Speaker 1: up over the weekend, so I'm bringing it up now.
- 28:00Speaker 1: I just I think the most astonishing thing that I've
- 28:03Speaker 1: watched this entire baseball season is Dan Wilson's faith in
- 28:07Speaker 1: Michael Rucker. Just astonishing.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:12Speaker 1: I put him in in a one run game the
- 28:14Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, and somebody threw some stats. I guess
- 28:16Speaker 1: he's had you know, I mean, I guess. I know
- 28:18Speaker 1: he's had better stats than what fer Air and Bizardo
- 28:21Speaker 1: have had. Place right, but go one layer deeper, please,
- 28:29Speaker 1: on all of these sports topics, go back and look
- 28:32Speaker 1: at it. Trust me, go back and look at it.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Look at what his era is in games where you're
- 28:38Speaker 1: blowing people out, which is what he should be is
- 28:42Speaker 1: a mop up guy. And then games where he's brought
- 28:45Speaker 1: into the game when it's close. The era is about
- 28:49Speaker 1: seven in close games, and then it's about perfect in
- 28:54Speaker 1: mop up games. You know, he should not be pitching
- 28:58Speaker 1: in high leverage situations. You know, he's not. He doesn't
- 29:00Speaker 1: have the stuff, he's not accustomed to it. And obviously
- 29:03Speaker 1: when the when the pressure gets ramped up, he doesn't
- 29:06Speaker 1: perform as well.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Sure doesn't seem like it.
- 29:08Speaker 3: And I even was it yesterday when you went and
- 29:10Speaker 3: I go, oh good, it's Recker time.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Yeah, and he you know, he gave up two unearned runs.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I get that. I get that. Had Brendan Donovan made
- 29:19Speaker 1: the play, then maybe he breezes through the inning. But
- 29:21Speaker 1: he also gave up three hits in the inning.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 29:25Speaker 1: It just it's just mind mind boggling to me that
- 29:30Speaker 1: he continues to be used. And and that's not a
- 29:33Speaker 1: fifth inning or sixth inning is not yet a high
- 29:36Speaker 1: leverage situation technically, But for a team struggling to score runs, man,
- 29:43Speaker 1: you need a zero posted at that point. And maybe
- 29:46Speaker 1: Farrer and Bizardo can't get it done, but they at
- 29:49Speaker 1: least have a more of a track record of being
- 29:51Speaker 1: able to get it done than what he does. Yeah,
- 29:55Speaker 1: and you ended up not even using Farrer in the
- 29:57Speaker 1: course of that day. And I would also point out,
- 29:59Speaker 1: let's go put it in here, s is for spire,
- 30:02Speaker 1: Do we really feel good about that? Now that he decided,
- 30:06Speaker 1: I mean we could have used him this weekend. Do
- 30:08Speaker 1: we all agree with that? Yeah? Yeah, And we decided
- 30:11Speaker 1: that now we had to exact revenge they and it
- 30:16Speaker 1: cost the cost our second best relief pitcher of the
- 30:19Speaker 1: weekend series, Time and Place. Time and Place fellas. The
- 30:25Speaker 1: thing important right now is to get this team on
- 30:28Speaker 1: the right track, not to try to have teammates back
- 30:32Speaker 1: in a bean ball war. It's just not. It wasn't
- 30:35Speaker 1: the appropriate time for it, and it did not unlock
- 30:38Speaker 1: some sort of special chemistry either. We haven't won since
- 30:42Speaker 1: it happened.
- 30:43Speaker 2: No, I was hopeful, but it sure did not.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we love the game.
- 30:47Speaker 2: It wasn't that moment. It was the whole game. I
- 30:49Speaker 2: thought was gonna mean more and it didn't.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Right right, right right? Yeah, but that I mean we
- 30:54Speaker 1: won that game. Well, we have not won since.
- 30:57Speaker 2: Because they cannot continue anything over.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, one last thing to close us out
- 31:02Speaker 1: next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. All right,
- 31:17Speaker 1: final segment here on this Monday morning. It's Chuck Powell,
- 31:21Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you, and we do have one last
- 31:23Speaker 1: thing to close this out here from a nice, chilly,
- 31:27Speaker 1: lovely morning here in the Pacific northwest of the Virginia
- 31:31Speaker 1: Mason Athletics Center. Ashley, what do you got?
- 31:33Speaker 3: I do think you would have been pretty proud of
- 31:35Speaker 3: our breeze club we had going on last night. We
- 31:37Speaker 3: were all watching TV after dinner on the couches with blankets,
- 31:44Speaker 3: the breeze just blowing. We watched it all the way
- 31:47Speaker 3: till it got dark, and that's usually we'll go in
- 31:50Speaker 3: and then finish watching TV on the couch before we
- 31:52Speaker 3: go to bed. Nope, we stayed out there in the
- 31:55Speaker 3: dark watching the TV with the blankets on.
- 31:57Speaker 2: It was just a.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Little bit of perfect I had a heat heat lamp
- 32:01Speaker 3: kind of behind me just to give me a little
- 32:02Speaker 3: bit of warmth as well.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they if you got the nut right breeze,
- 32:09Speaker 1: you can also counter it with like a fire or
- 32:13Speaker 1: you know, even like a heater or even a heated
- 32:16Speaker 1: blanket or something like that. It's the combination that makes that.
- 32:19Speaker 1: And then if you have a nice beverage, whether I
- 32:22Speaker 1: would imagine you went wine, which you know you could go,
- 32:25Speaker 1: you could go tea or coffee or something like that,
- 32:27Speaker 1: but wine does the trick too because of that alcohol
- 32:30Speaker 1: stuff in there.
- 32:31Speaker 3: Yeah, warms here, warms up the cockles of your heart.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Sure does, sure does.
- 32:36Speaker 1: And also, yeah, you were right to have the instincts.
- 32:39Speaker 1: But I would be proud of you because I've never
- 32:42Speaker 1: been more problem Oh.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Gosh, mission accomplished that. Warm hearts the entire family too, excellent.
- 32:49Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell everyone when I get home. Chuck's proud
- 32:51Speaker 2: of us.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Let's do it again.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Let's do it again. It's our new nightly ritual and
- 32:57Speaker 3: my other short little thing. Happy birthday to Softy.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Oh that's right, it's Offti's birthday today.
- 33:04Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wish them no, you should. We gave
- 33:06Speaker 2: time on our airwaves. That's all he needs.
- 33:08Speaker 1: I hope it's just an average, maybe even mundane birthday.
- 33:14Speaker 1: It's not a bad birthday, just average. I mean, I
- 33:16Speaker 1: like the guy, but yeah, everybody's gonna wish him a
- 33:19Speaker 1: happy birthday. Yeah, average birthday, buddy, love you.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Yeah, have an average birthday, Have a not terrible birthday.
- 33:31Speaker 2: I hope your birthday doesn't suck.
- 33:34Speaker 1: Right, All right, I'm gonna close with our Boeing Classic Information.
- 33:38Speaker 1: We're gonna grab those five names for you. We're not
- 33:40Speaker 1: gonna announce them on the air. But you got that
- 33:43Speaker 1: covered right back there. Oh yeaheah, you're doing. Thanks also
- 33:47Speaker 1: to the Boeing Classic for of course sponsoring our training
- 33:51Speaker 1: camp coverage. Uh. And we do want to let you
- 33:54Speaker 1: know Boeing Classic is this weekend at the club at
- 33:58Speaker 1: snow Qualmie Ridge. You're gonna have all sorts of legends
- 34:01Speaker 1: coming out there for a big payday, so bring old family.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Make sure to check out the Seahawks Village packed with
- 34:07Speaker 1: fun for all ages. It says here tickets start at
- 34:10Speaker 1: twenty dollars. Kids get in free. We gave away five
- 34:13Speaker 1: pair of tickets, so hopefully you're one of the individuals
- 34:16Speaker 1: that expressed interest and grab those tickets for yourself. Visit
- 34:20Speaker 1: Boeingclassic dot com to get yours today. Boeing Classic. You
- 34:26Speaker 1: know I went there, I think the first time, the
- 34:29Speaker 1: first year that I moved here, I went to the
- 34:31Speaker 1: Boeing Classic, But I haven't been back at about a decade. Ashley,
- 34:35Speaker 1: probably need to get back out there and let ps
- 34:38Speaker 1: show me around the town.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it's glorious out there. Check it out, and I
- 34:41Speaker 3: think we'll have a not too hot weekend.
- 34:43Speaker 1: Why not, you know, he never invites us, you know, I'm.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Pretty sure he hates us.
- 34:49Speaker 1: Any of us. Like you think, maybe he doesn't want
- 34:51Speaker 1: us to see like his luxury life that he has
- 34:54Speaker 1: going on up there.
- 34:55Speaker 2: I think he doesn't want us to see a lot
- 34:56Speaker 2: of things.
- 34:58Speaker 3: I don't remember back the day though, him and Heather
- 35:01Speaker 3: had a party at their house and we all need
- 35:03Speaker 3: to go one time I've seen this house and then
- 35:05Speaker 3: probably a.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Major upgrade though now yeah, then probably why we haven't
- 35:08Speaker 1: been out invited.
- 35:09Speaker 2: I think he basically just doubled the size on the
- 35:11Speaker 2: same plottle in and was like, yeah, you know what,
- 35:13Speaker 2: I'm I'm better now.
- 35:15Speaker 1: He doesn't want to see that. You know that happened
- 35:17Speaker 1: to me one time, like I, I once upon a
- 35:20Speaker 1: time made money in this business. M h uh. And
- 35:24Speaker 1: I bought my dream home and I was really proud
- 35:27Speaker 1: of it. And you know, you want to have parties
- 35:30Speaker 1: and you want people to come up and see your
- 35:31Speaker 1: cool house and everything else. It wasn't entirely self serving.
- 35:35Speaker 1: I threw cool parties even when I wasn't in my
- 35:38Speaker 1: dream house. Uh. But you know, I'm getting ready to
- 35:40Speaker 1: throw my first like cool party and my cool new pad,
- 35:44Speaker 1: my dream home. And I invited of course, coworkers, and
- 35:48Speaker 1: as soon as they came in, I saw the looks
- 35:50Speaker 1: on their faces understanding the discrepancy and maybe salaries that
- 35:56Speaker 1: we had at that point, and I realized that that moment,
- 35:59Speaker 1: maybe the wasn't a great idea.
- 36:01Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you should have been like, psych, this isn't mine.
- 36:03Speaker 2: I have a rich uncle.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Uh. They took it well, but there certainly was this
- 36:11Speaker 1: moment of oh, I didn't know you were making this
- 36:14Speaker 1: kind of salary.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Oh this is how you roll right.
- 36:18Speaker 1: So, yes, maybe that's what happened here. Maybe that's why
- 36:22Speaker 1: we haven't been invited up. Maybe he lives in a mansion.
- 36:26Speaker 1: I think he does, on a mountain.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Yes, at the very tippy top.
- 36:30Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because he's got a very nice family and
- 36:32Speaker 1: we'd like to spend time with him. Yeah. All right,
- 36:34Speaker 1: that'll do it for us. Thanks for joining us. Greg
- 36:37Speaker 1: Bells coming your way next. We'll talk to you tomorrow morning.
- 36:39Speaker 1: I'll be back in Studio six A. M Ashley and
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