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- 0:05Speaker 1: The system's going clear, the lift up. What's up? Everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another edition,
- 0:41Speaker 1: the final edition of the Takedown Breakdown this season with
- 0:44Speaker 1: my guy Naid's bring him in here in a minute.
- 0:46Speaker 1: But we appreciate you guys watching all season long. Hopefully
- 0:49Speaker 1: this has helped you get a little bit better think
- 0:51Speaker 1: about DFS a little bit differently, and while more on
- 0:53Speaker 1: that in a little bit, but Naids, I'll bring you
- 0:55Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. Pga is back. It's close to New
- 0:58Speaker 1: Year's all of that in the Week eighteen you've never
- 1:00Speaker 1: done with sort of the mess, but this will be
- 1:01Speaker 1: the last episode. How you doing, my friend, and thank
- 1:04Speaker 1: you so much for joining me all season long. It's
- 1:05Speaker 1: been a fun one.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07Speaker 3: I always love doing the show. Big part of my process,
- 1:09Speaker 3: big part of your process. And obviously we've we've worked
- 1:12Speaker 3: together for a couple of years now and it's been great,
- 1:15Speaker 3: so I appreciate you bringing me on.
- 1:16Speaker 2: But happy holidays everyone out there.
- 1:18Speaker 3: With that, obviously, this is the last show, like you
- 1:21Speaker 3: alluded to, just due to the holiday season and Week
- 1:23Speaker 3: eighteen is kind of a kind of a mess, right
- 1:26Speaker 3: with with people sitting sitting, sitting guys and things like that.
- 1:29Speaker 3: Same with same with seventeen. So I think we can
- 1:32Speaker 3: pull some stuff from from yesterday and overall learn learn
- 1:36Speaker 3: from it and use our tools, I think, to kind
- 1:39Speaker 3: of discuss through it like we've done kind of all
- 1:42Speaker 3: season long, right, which is kind of the nature of
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- 2:00Speaker 3: I think our members have definitely shown success all season long, right,
- 2:04Speaker 3: So I think that's that's the beauty of it doing
- 2:06Speaker 3: these shows.
- 2:07Speaker 1: That's what I was talking about too. And this is funny,
- 2:09Speaker 1: Mark put this in here. We'll get to it. I
- 2:10Speaker 1: know this is a big topic this week of that
- 2:12Speaker 1: winning lineup for the twenty dollars Milli Maker. That's kind
- 2:15Speaker 1: of week eighteen es, right, So maybe there's some takeaways
- 2:17Speaker 1: from that, but you'll see a lot of the lineups
- 2:19Speaker 1: that were up there and close. I'm also going to
- 2:21Speaker 1: announce the winner of the three three hundred and thirty
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- 2:32Speaker 1: to it here in a little bit. But if you
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- 3:27Speaker 1: So we'll get to it. Shout out to everybody here
- 3:29Speaker 1: in the chat. Sean Sullivan traveling for Christmas. Yeah, Mary,
- 3:33Speaker 1: ship miss and happy holidays to everybody out there. You
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- 3:44Speaker 1: Shout out to all the people that are usually here
- 3:45Speaker 1: joining us. Andrew Philly, Phantom, Newe's GK Phifer Chat, Pashtag Sheppet,
- 3:51Speaker 1: he's in the bunch getting ready for golf and more
- 3:53Speaker 1: on that as well. Some PGA stuff coming up. Matt Taylor, Michael,
- 3:57Speaker 1: just all good people here in the chat and we'll
- 4:00Speaker 1: talk about this. You know how to use the stone,
- 4:02Speaker 1: We do talk about that quite a bit, but we'll
- 4:03Speaker 1: show you here right on this very show actually, so
- 4:06Speaker 1: let's get to it. Let's hop in here and go
- 4:09Speaker 1: over and check out. First off, this twenty dollars Milli
- 4:13Speaker 1: Maker that everybody wants to talk about, right, this is
- 4:15Speaker 1: the this is the one aid. So oh, let me
- 4:17Speaker 1: get to the perfect line up here first, just one second,
- 4:20Speaker 1: pull this up to man booth. They changed the settings
- 4:22Speaker 1: on this thing here before we get to around here.
- 4:25Speaker 2: They swapped them.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Yeah, they just swapped them around a little bit. But
- 4:28Speaker 1: we're all good people. Trust us here. They know we're
- 4:30Speaker 1: going to go through the goods for them. So let's
- 4:32Speaker 1: do this. Let's go pull up the perfect lineup. Just
- 4:34Speaker 1: of note, I think you see it up there now.
- 4:36Speaker 1: The winning twenty dollars Milli Maker lineup was two hundred
- 4:39Speaker 1: and thirty eight point four eight. This is forty points higher,
- 4:44Speaker 1: basically at two seventy eight a forty nine hundred dollars
- 4:48Speaker 1: salary lineup. I'll kick it you. Neid's olamed Zach Zach.
- 4:52Speaker 1: How do you say his name is Zach Yaya? Yeah,
- 4:55Speaker 1: the key is that's what it is.
- 4:56Speaker 2: But yeah, you're.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Usually doing pretty good asking me for pronunciations, because anybody
- 5:01Speaker 3: out there that knows the NHL shows and that knows them,
- 5:03Speaker 3: I'm horrible with those. So I can't get on anybody
- 5:06Speaker 3: for pronunciations. But yeah, this uh, this build here, there
- 5:09Speaker 3: is a couple of things that I can pull from it.
- 5:11Speaker 3: Number One, Jonathan Taylor not results oriented, but who was
- 5:15Speaker 3: chalk on the slate? Anthony Richardson? Right, So going to
- 5:18Speaker 3: the running back on the same team with Hey, if
- 5:20Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson isn't getting those rushing touchdowns at the at
- 5:23Speaker 3: the goal line, which he even did himself, it's likely
- 5:26Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor probably is in a decent spot right to
- 5:28Speaker 3: get some of those or at least some some running
- 5:32Speaker 3: back from that team. Obviously, Jonathan Taylor being the one there,
- 5:35Speaker 3: Cuba Hubbard, amazing game environment, great game script, gamescript independent right,
- 5:39Speaker 3: involved in the rushing, involved in the passing. Uh, he
- 5:42Speaker 3: did get there obviously, kind of got all the way
- 5:45Speaker 3: there right in over time. I know that helped a
- 5:47Speaker 3: lot of people at our discord there. Amazing play. Really
- 5:51Speaker 3: wasn't anything crazy there. Everybody was on that Detroit and
- 5:56Speaker 3: Chicago game. How does the game speed up? You talk
- 5:59Speaker 3: about them all the time. Jameson Williams bomb down the sidelines, right,
- 6:02Speaker 3: what do you have like an eighty yard bomb?
- 6:04Speaker 2: Right?
- 6:04Speaker 3: He instantly speeds up the game, Keenan Allen has taken
- 6:07Speaker 3: over wide receiver one in this offense. I mean Caleb Williams,
- 6:10Speaker 3: dude just looks to Keenan Allen every single time. I mean,
- 6:13Speaker 3: look at his target share. He's got eleven twelve, like
- 6:16Speaker 3: fourteen targets the last three games. Right, and he was
- 6:19Speaker 3: also sandwiched between Romadonsay and Dj Moore at less.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Ownership than what like DJ Moore was.
- 6:26Speaker 3: So that was a good play, a little secondary stack there,
- 6:28Speaker 3: and then Devin a chain a chain or however.
- 6:32Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we are getting in the pronunciation game, now.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Go ahead, yeah, e Chen, Yeah, seventy four hundred, right,
- 6:39Speaker 3: he was.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I think he was a pretty good play.
- 6:42Speaker 3: Not to say that you would have got to him,
- 6:43Speaker 3: but there was a lot of very popular running backs
- 6:46Speaker 3: in that range. One hundred dollars less than Jamier Gibbs
- 6:49Speaker 3: on the same when when you have Jameson Williams, So
- 6:53Speaker 3: you can pull a couple of things. Obviously, anytime a
- 6:55Speaker 3: perfect lineup out scores the optimal if you will, right
- 6:58Speaker 3: in the twenty dollars contest or any of these tournaments
- 7:00Speaker 3: by forty plus points, you know, it's some plays like
- 7:03Speaker 3: Zakias right, and things like that that are gonna fall
- 7:06Speaker 3: in there, Chig stuff like that. But there's some good
- 7:09Speaker 3: plays you.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Can pull from here.
- 7:10Speaker 3: And then obviously the Falcons D in that game there
- 7:12Speaker 3: where most people just saw the Falcons kind of just
- 7:14Speaker 3: destroying that team.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Falcons D and D Genal is a pretty popular combination yesterday.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Yeah, So to me, the interesting part is this is
- 7:21Speaker 1: probably funny enough it's the last week of doing the show,
- 7:24Speaker 1: but this might be the best perfect lineup we've seen
- 7:26Speaker 1: all season. And maybe it's just because I've been looking
- 7:27Speaker 1: at so many lineup reviews and breaking things down with
- 7:30Speaker 1: people lately. But I will say it's not that you
- 7:32Speaker 1: were going to this game. But I even mentioned like
- 7:34Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Mack Hollins yesterday, and I didn't like
- 7:37Speaker 1: MATC Collins. It's not about it if it worked out
- 7:39Speaker 1: or not, I'm saying, but if you're pairing a more
- 7:41Speaker 1: expensive quarterback with somebody random, fine, but even the benefit
- 7:45Speaker 1: of the doubt, because who's getting to this. Nobody just
- 7:48Speaker 1: plug in Malik Washington in a combo pack with a
- 7:51Speaker 1: chan for the two hundred bucks more, you lose what
- 7:54Speaker 1: twenty something points? I think you only had like four
- 7:56Speaker 1: or five. But my point being, you get something and
- 7:58Speaker 1: you still win the Millie Maker. But the takeaway would
- 8:00Speaker 1: be this, if you were just playing somebody like Jayden
- 8:03Speaker 1: Daniel's up top, you had no Richardson who was popular,
- 8:07Speaker 1: so the leverage would be Jonathan Taylor Chig was going
- 8:10Speaker 1: to be a pivot off of Strange. That fits the
- 8:14Speaker 1: secondary stack, and we could see an opportunity for him.
- 8:17Speaker 1: So that's a little secondary stack. If you're not this
- 8:19Speaker 1: was like a double entendre here. But if you're not
- 8:22Speaker 1: playing Gibbs and you're using Williams to speed it up
- 8:25Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen on the other side, and I'll go
- 8:26Speaker 1: more on that in a second, that's a secondary stack.
- 8:29Speaker 1: But it actually makes sense for what when I'm explaining
- 8:31Speaker 1: to people or when we're talking through it on this show,
- 8:33Speaker 1: is if you're gonna do something like this, that means
- 8:36Speaker 1: you're not playing Gibbs in this spot. And if you're
- 8:38Speaker 1: not playing Gibbs in this spot, that's one hundred dollars
- 8:41Speaker 1: less to go to the pivot in a chan I
- 8:43Speaker 1: said it yesterday. I said he might score, you know,
- 8:45Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five, and then see somebody like a
- 8:47Speaker 1: chance score more, and then you'll never know who's gonna
- 8:50Speaker 1: be needed. But we know way less people would be
- 8:52Speaker 1: on a Chan. I think Gibbs got twenty eight yesterday,
- 8:54Speaker 1: had a really good day, so as expected, by the way,
- 8:57Speaker 1: and we'll go to the stone. Somebody asked earlier about
- 8:59Speaker 1: how to use that over a chip nation. We'll show
- 9:01Speaker 1: it off. But just saying, if you were getting to
- 9:04Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels or something in that Washington Philly game, which
- 9:08Speaker 1: there was always gonna be potential, you can even cancel
- 9:11Speaker 1: out the Zakias play and just put Malik Washington in
- 9:14Speaker 1: a combo pack with a Chan. You're not on Pennix,
- 9:17Speaker 1: but you see they got a total there, and why
- 9:18Speaker 1: not just play the defense. You're not on DJ Moore,
- 9:21Speaker 1: but you're on Keenan Allen. Instead of playing Gibbs, you
- 9:23Speaker 1: do a Chan and Williams and mix them together. And
- 9:26Speaker 1: I will say the last thing on this Dades I
- 9:28Speaker 1: like Keenan Allen. I talked about this directly on the
- 9:30Speaker 1: show yesterday, way better as a one off or secondary
- 9:35Speaker 1: stack than I did with DJ Moore, because I feel
- 9:38Speaker 1: like DJ Moore is gonna be a big time two
- 9:40Speaker 1: touchdown type of game where you're gonna when you're gonna
- 9:43Speaker 1: when you're going to need him, and that's really gonna
- 9:45Speaker 1: boost Caleb Williams even more than we already liked him.
- 9:48Speaker 1: And obviously that's why he fell into things like our
- 9:51Speaker 1: stack rankings over at Chip and Nation. I don't know
- 9:53Speaker 1: if you have more to add on that, but this
- 9:54Speaker 1: is what I said, Yes, say, the highest stack ranking.
- 9:57Speaker 1: I've never even seen it in the Nines for our
- 9:59Speaker 1: whole season, and this is from yesterday and basically Williams
- 10:03Speaker 1: Moore Allen right at the top.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I like that point a lot because Dj Moore.
- 10:09Speaker 3: I mean, the way this Bears offense is working kind
- 10:11Speaker 3: of since week twelve, right when Keenan Allen kind of
- 10:13Speaker 3: really came back, right, I mean, he was dealing with
- 10:16Speaker 3: injuries and stuff like that at the beginning of the season,
- 10:18Speaker 3: so it took him a little bit right to get
- 10:19Speaker 3: acclimated to this offense. Obviously, it's a new addition and
- 10:21Speaker 3: it's a young quarterback there, and Keenan Allen was a
- 10:24Speaker 3: beast in his career. You look at week twelve, I mean,
- 10:27Speaker 3: this dude's averaged double digit target since Week twelve right,
- 10:31Speaker 3: And so to your point, he's that fits DraftKings scoring
- 10:34Speaker 3: perfectly right PPR monster, whereas DJ Moore is kind of
- 10:37Speaker 3: like your your DK metcalf or you like your Jamar
- 10:39Speaker 3: Chase example right where typically that guy is gonna pull
- 10:42Speaker 3: the quarterback with him, right, So I like that take
- 10:46Speaker 3: take a lot. But yeah, the stack rankings was was
- 10:48Speaker 3: all over this game, and it really, i mean ownership wise,
- 10:52Speaker 3: it really wasn't that crazy, to be honest, I mean
- 10:54Speaker 3: it was kind of the nature of the slate yesterday.
- 10:55Speaker 3: There was a ton of wide receivers in that kind
- 10:57Speaker 3: of mid tier range and then a lot of cheap
- 11:00Speaker 3: quarterbacks right to overall kind of spread the ownership with
- 11:03Speaker 3: with guys like Poenix and Aidan o'conno and Anthony richardson.
- 11:08Speaker 3: But if you look, i mean the top ten, if
- 11:10Speaker 3: you just stuck to the top ten or twelve right
- 11:13Speaker 3: on our stack rankings, you probably had a pretty dang
- 11:15Speaker 3: good day yesterday if you just have these guys in
- 11:18Speaker 3: your pool and had decent exposures on them, And it
- 11:21Speaker 3: just goes back to our our tools, and when we
- 11:24Speaker 3: flip over the stone in a little bit, you'll see
- 11:26Speaker 3: even more on how to kind of use the stone
- 11:28Speaker 3: and see that everything is on the stone.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Which is kind of why it's the best tool in
- 11:33Speaker 2: all of dfs.
- 11:34Speaker 3: Obviously we have the stack rankings and things like that
- 11:36Speaker 3: split off as one offs, but it's all incorporated in
- 11:38Speaker 3: the stone as well. So yeah, I like that point
- 11:42Speaker 3: a lot on Keenan Allen.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Yeah, the Darnold doubles yesterday, and then you see the
- 11:46Speaker 1: same for you know, you see Seattle game up here,
- 11:48Speaker 1: so sometimes that you saw Josh Downs, you saw Brian
- 11:51Speaker 1: Thomas Junior, you saw Kittle Chig popped up there if
- 11:54Speaker 1: you were looking for a you know, we'll see later
- 11:56Speaker 1: how some people got different in some spots. But you know,
- 11:59Speaker 1: Pennix was up there, Bowers was up there. You know,
- 12:02Speaker 1: if you weren't on We always talk about this, even
- 12:04Speaker 1: when you're looking for building out your lineups, like we
- 12:06Speaker 1: talk about just not if this is your stack, you
- 12:09Speaker 1: most likely ended up on Gibbs, and I wouldn't blame you.
- 12:11Speaker 1: I know that you can go down the board and say,
- 12:13Speaker 1: oh where is he? Oh Williams is way down there
- 12:15Speaker 1: on the stacker. That's fine, but you could see how
- 12:17Speaker 1: you could land on him or Laporte if you were
- 12:19Speaker 1: looking to get different with this stack, but you also
- 12:21Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have to get different here. There was other
- 12:23Speaker 1: places to go. But we talk about using these tools
- 12:25Speaker 1: all the time. I've got a NFL process video coming
- 12:29Speaker 1: up this week at dfsmastermind dot com showing how I
- 12:32Speaker 1: use this stuff, but just a tidbit of it. Like
- 12:33Speaker 1: you mentioned, Naides. If I'm on this and it makes
- 12:36Speaker 1: sense to pair this with Gibbs and I'm not on this,
- 12:39Speaker 1: but Kyler pops everywhere, I'm probably putting in James Connor,
- 12:43Speaker 1: like just an example. Or I might be interested in
- 12:44Speaker 1: the defense against Kyler Murrie for example. If I'm not
- 12:48Speaker 1: on some of this stuff, I'll look into it. You know,
- 12:50Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna be on these guys, maybe I'm
- 12:52Speaker 1: on the defense for or against because then I'm just
- 12:55Speaker 1: picking up those points in a different way. What would
- 12:57Speaker 1: cause these guys not to get there? Well, if they're
- 12:59Speaker 1: D scores a bunch and controls the game, that's possible
- 13:02Speaker 1: if the defense against him. If you wanted a cheaper
- 13:05Speaker 1: D to make everything else fit and fit in some
- 13:07Speaker 1: other stuff. So you can look at a lot of
- 13:09Speaker 1: this stuff, where do you get secondary stacks from people
- 13:11Speaker 1: who know my slate plan from this past week. Oh,
- 13:13Speaker 1: I like jon Robinson and neighbors. It did not fully
- 13:17Speaker 1: work out because Neighbors didn't fully work out, But just
- 13:19Speaker 1: saying like, if you're seeing these things interesting game stack, Wow,
- 13:22Speaker 1: Minnesota and Seattle are both still up here. Tennessee and
- 13:26Speaker 1: Indie are both up here. Rudolph was in the mix
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- 13:37Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, who you might not be on if you're
- 13:40Speaker 1: not on Richardson, maybe that's why you're putting Taylor in.
- 13:42Speaker 1: And if you're not on Richardson because he was popular,
- 13:46Speaker 1: but because you like quarterbacks up here instead, then you
- 13:49Speaker 1: probably should like Jonathan Taylor at sixty nine hundred dollars
- 13:52Speaker 1: or seventy seven hundred on fanduels. So this is where
- 13:55Speaker 1: you can pull a lot of this stuff from. It's
- 13:56Speaker 1: not even results oriented as much as to give yourself idea.
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- 16:33Speaker 1: good things coming down. The pipeline needs the stone real quick.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Just to go back to this, and we'll flip back
- 16:38Speaker 1: and forth once we get into the lineup review because
- 16:40Speaker 1: people do want to see that. But just to note
- 16:42Speaker 1: target game in purple looking looking looking Oh target game,
- 16:47Speaker 1: which again people say, oh, everybody knew that, then build it.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Why didn't everybody build it? And I mean that's what
- 16:52Speaker 1: we're saying, and you look at it here the optimal
- 16:53Speaker 1: rates the highest you'll see. But Caleb Williams More Allen
- 16:57Speaker 1: Allen in Turquoise was a upside. If you go back
- 17:01Speaker 1: down and look, it was similar ownership projected. But if
- 17:05Speaker 1: you wanted to save that money, I have no problem
- 17:07Speaker 1: ever saving the money and going to a high upside play.
- 17:10Speaker 1: You knew this optimal rate. On the other side, you
- 17:12Speaker 1: knew this stack rate. A very good place to start
- 17:14Speaker 1: your lineups and to put yourself in a pretty successful
- 17:17Speaker 1: position was Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and run
- 17:22Speaker 1: it back with Gibbs. If you're not on Kyler, why
- 17:25Speaker 1: not something like James Connor. If you're not going to
- 17:28Speaker 1: be on Anthony Richardson, who was reflecting. He actually ended
- 17:33Speaker 1: up coming into like eight or nine I think. But
- 17:34Speaker 1: just a note, if you thought he was going to
- 17:35Speaker 1: be higher, why not sixty nine hundred dollars with huge
- 17:39Speaker 1: leverage we all I think we nailed that. I think
- 17:40Speaker 1: he did come in an eight percent for Jonathan Taylor
- 17:42Speaker 1: twenty three point team total at home. Not the worst,
- 17:46Speaker 1: not the best matchup, but it's just pure leverage built
- 17:48Speaker 1: into the lineup. A lot of the ways you can
- 17:51Speaker 1: use the stone are to find these angles of attack
- 17:54Speaker 1: and then go use something like Shipdemizer where you can
- 17:57Speaker 1: use the handbuild feature and start putting this in and
- 18:00Speaker 1: seeing how it all plays out. So, I don't know
- 18:01Speaker 1: if you have anything to add in ads, you brought
- 18:03Speaker 1: it up earlier and someone wanted to look at how
- 18:05Speaker 1: you can use the Stone target game stack ranking very optimal,
- 18:11Speaker 1: most optimal play on the slate run back, and then
- 18:14Speaker 1: where else do you go? Very optimal running back? You're
- 18:17Speaker 1: not on Kyler, very optimal running back, You're not on Richards.
- 18:20Speaker 1: I mean the thing starts to build itself at that point.
- 18:22Speaker 1: But give me some thoughts, man, what do you got?
- 18:24Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, I mean the Jonathan Taylor played too.
- 18:27Speaker 3: I mean you know eight chan right, seventy four hundred,
- 18:31Speaker 3: but you know Gibbs right, gonna be the talkiest running
- 18:33Speaker 3: back on the slate. James Connor second highest on running
- 18:36Speaker 3: back on the slate, So you just know Jonathan Taylor
- 18:38Speaker 3: at a couple hundred dollars more, I mean sixty nine
- 18:40Speaker 3: hundred versus seventy one. Everybody's clicking James Connor in the
- 18:43Speaker 3: matchup yesterday over Jonathan Taylor because everybody wanted Anthony Richardson,
- 18:47Speaker 3: So that was another point.
- 18:49Speaker 2: But yeah, you alluded to it.
- 18:50Speaker 3: If you literally just stick to the target games, right
- 18:54Speaker 3: or the sneaky games on these stones throughout the course
- 18:57Speaker 3: of the season, and just play the good games. Djen
- 18:59Speaker 3: talks about it all the time, play the good game environments.
- 19:01Speaker 3: If you're only playing a couple teams, you go in
- 19:04Speaker 3: on these good game environments.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Is it gonna work every time? No? Absolutely not. That's
- 19:07Speaker 2: the game we play, right.
- 19:08Speaker 3: There's variants in every sport you play, but more times
- 19:11Speaker 3: than not, these games are targeted tag these way. These
- 19:16Speaker 3: reasons are ways for a reason, and these players are
- 19:19Speaker 3: highlighted for a reason. There's a lot of work that
- 19:21Speaker 3: goes into creating the stone every week, projections and ownership
- 19:24Speaker 3: and everything behind the scenes that tabulates this. If you
- 19:28Speaker 3: just stuck to it over the course of the season,
- 19:29Speaker 3: I'd be willing to bet you're a profitable DFS player
- 19:32Speaker 3: this season just using this tool alone. And I mean
- 19:36Speaker 3: you see it on the Nation celebration, right, guys turning
- 19:39Speaker 3: Massive Massive rois. It's not one hundred and fifty maxers
- 19:42Speaker 3: that we're touting out there that oh this guy won again.
- 19:45Speaker 3: There's guys that are literally turned sixty bucks into six thousand, right,
- 19:48Speaker 3: seventy bucks into two thousands. Right, So overall, I mean
- 19:53Speaker 3: amazing breakdown there, But that's kind of how to use it.
- 19:56Speaker 3: Just look for the target games first, go there, Okay,
- 19:59Speaker 3: what's the field doing? How can I get different within
- 20:02Speaker 3: this target game? And then just plugging good plays around it,
- 20:04Speaker 3: and you have yourself a very competitive lineup.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Is it gonna win every day? No? But are you
- 20:08Speaker 2: going to give yourself a shot to win? Going back
- 20:11Speaker 2: to your process?
- 20:12Speaker 3: Right, that at least gives you a starting point, right
- 20:15Speaker 3: to create your process and stick.
- 20:16Speaker 2: With your process.
- 20:17Speaker 3: So then you know, going into next week, Okay, I
- 20:20Speaker 3: know how my process works.
- 20:21Speaker 2: I know where I'm going to look for.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Then you listen to the content, you look through the
- 20:25Speaker 3: slate plan, you look through the other content on the site,
- 20:27Speaker 3: and you make your own tweaks.
- 20:28Speaker 2: That's the best part about it.
- 20:29Speaker 1: So yeah, the tool is designed to make it easier
- 20:32Speaker 1: on you. I know, everybody else talks about mme content
- 20:35Speaker 1: versus I only play you know, one to twenty lineups.
- 20:37Speaker 1: This is literally designed You can actually download your own
- 20:41Speaker 1: version of the file. The PDF is nice if you're
- 20:43Speaker 1: on mobile to be able to see it. But the
- 20:46Speaker 1: XLSX file you can download. I know, and I've talked
- 20:48Speaker 1: to people over a DFS mastermind about how they use this.
- 20:51Speaker 1: And they download the file, they delete players from games,
- 20:55Speaker 1: they delete games altogether. They take stuff off and narrow
- 20:59Speaker 1: it down and then start to look up at the
- 21:01Speaker 1: matchups and see, Okay, what does this look like. Chase
- 21:04Speaker 1: Brown looks pretty good, has a pretty good rush matchup.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Let's look at that bijon this week. If I'm not
- 21:10Speaker 1: playing Penix at high ownership, why wouldn't I like Bijeon
- 21:13Speaker 1: against a D plus rush defense the Giants. He had
- 21:16Speaker 1: a pretty good day, could have been even better. He
- 21:18Speaker 1: just missed the bonus. I think my six yards all
- 21:20Speaker 1: that and more. Though you can look at it and
- 21:22Speaker 1: leverage that makes sense. You'll start to learn as you
- 21:25Speaker 1: go on. But just mixing the tools, we have the
- 21:27Speaker 1: stone for everything right. Showdown this just this week alone,
- 21:31Speaker 1: We've got a Showdown slate tonight covering you here. Will
- 21:35Speaker 1: be back later on this channel with Hoop title in
- 21:37Speaker 1: myself on Tomorrow, Tuesday morning, Hoop and myself are doing
- 21:41Speaker 1: a two game slate show for the Christmas Day slate
- 21:44Speaker 1: with the Kansas City at Pittsburgh and Baltimore at Houston's
- 21:47Speaker 1: looking off my calendar here. Thursday night, Nads and Ham
- 21:50Speaker 1: will be back to cover the show on this channel
- 21:52Speaker 1: for the Thursday night football game with Seattle and Chicago,
- 21:55Speaker 1: and then Saturday it'll be back three man booth hoop
- 21:58Speaker 1: title and myself for the three game staggered slate. So
- 22:02Speaker 1: tons of good stuff going on across the board. We'll
- 22:05Speaker 1: get to that twenty dollars million maker here and check
- 22:07Speaker 1: it out. Nid's this was the one everybody's talking about.
- 22:10Speaker 1: So you know, you of m fifteen oh six, how
- 22:15Speaker 1: many lineups do you think they had in this tournament?
- 22:17Speaker 1: You probably looked ahead, so you know, I think it's
- 22:20Speaker 1: more of a spoiler alert, but you can guess. Here's
- 22:22Speaker 1: the answer. Spoiler alert. They had one. They had one lineup,
- 22:26Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. I mean, it's not gonna
- 22:28Speaker 1: be everybody's favorite lineup, most certainly, but let's let's talk
- 22:31Speaker 1: about it. See what we can come up with. Nas.
- 22:32Speaker 1: What do you got?
- 22:33Speaker 3: Yeah, So congrats to this guy out there wherever they
- 22:36Speaker 3: built he or she, wherever they built this. I mean,
- 22:39Speaker 3: anybody can say what they want about any lineup that
- 22:42Speaker 3: wins a million dollars is not a shit lineup? Ridiculous, right,
- 22:45Speaker 3: whether you have your takes or not. Is it the
- 22:46Speaker 3: most correlated lineup that everybody builds? No, absolutely not right,
- 22:49Speaker 3: it's it's a bunch of one off. You see a
- 22:51Speaker 3: bunch of X there right on the VIA lineup. I'll
- 22:54Speaker 3: start with the Poenix in the Atlanta d I listened
- 22:58Speaker 3: to the First Look show.
- 22:59Speaker 2: DJ brought that up up.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Anytime you have a starting quarterback that has shown talent
- 23:04Speaker 3: in the past at basically stone minimum, you can play him,
- 23:08Speaker 3: you don't need to stack him, and it can easily
- 23:11Speaker 3: be he gets it going. There's London, there's Mooney, there's Vijon,
- 23:15Speaker 3: there's Pits, there's Rey Ray, there's all these different guys.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Maybe you just take the points from him and you
- 23:21Speaker 3: just pair it up with the defense, making a combo
- 23:23Speaker 3: pack for what a little over eight thousand dollars, right,
- 23:27Speaker 3: and you move on. So I don't mind that there.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor already talked about the leverage there, great play.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard already talked about that opposite side of James
- 23:37Speaker 3: Connor in the same game.
- 23:38Speaker 2: If that game script flips.
- 23:40Speaker 3: It's probably because Chuba Hubbard has a pretty big day,
- 23:43Speaker 3: even though he's involved in the receiving game too. But
- 23:46Speaker 3: if he's smashing, it's probably likely that Arizona's throwing a
- 23:49Speaker 3: little bit more, which kind of hurts. It hurts James
- 23:51Speaker 3: Connor at least a little bit instead of if they're
- 23:53Speaker 3: playing with the lead. So I like that we already
- 23:56Speaker 3: hit on the Keenan Allen play right amazing option as
- 23:59Speaker 3: a one off on that same team in respect to
- 24:03Speaker 3: like the DJ more for cheaper. So I like that
- 24:05Speaker 3: the JSN play really good matchup. Minnesota's defense has gotten
- 24:09Speaker 3: torched by wide receivers all season long. So the thing
- 24:13Speaker 3: that that I pull majority of this lineup is just
- 24:17Speaker 3: playing good plays and not worrying about over correlating or stacking,
- 24:22Speaker 3: which isn't the way you and I build, but it's
- 24:24Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like he's playing random guys. Outside
- 24:27Speaker 3: of maybe the Kashan Booty or Boute or however you
- 24:31Speaker 3: pronounce it right, everyone else was people play. People were
- 24:36Speaker 3: playing for the most part, right, and he just put
- 24:39Speaker 3: them all together in the same build. So I mean,
- 24:41Speaker 3: outside of the New England piece, I think everything else
- 24:46Speaker 3: kind of makes sense from the game environment standpoint.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look this up real quick. I just
- 24:52Speaker 1: want to see one quick thing. Yeah, where's the only
- 24:55Speaker 1: guy I'm looking for is is Booty? So check it out.
- 24:59Speaker 1: What's what's the line up here? Nate's we got the
- 25:01Speaker 1: stone up. Let me see here. So he had Pennex
- 25:04Speaker 1: junior very optimal. He had the falcons D looking pretty
- 25:09Speaker 1: good and huge ceiling here just highlighted heavy right, still
- 25:12Speaker 1: good leverage on the slate. Another way to use it.
- 25:14Speaker 1: We've seen plenty in the past ree pair running back
- 25:16Speaker 1: with defense and when you have a mobile quarterback or
- 25:19Speaker 1: someone coming in that's super cheap like this, just combo
- 25:21Speaker 1: packing it up. I got no problem with that. And
- 25:23Speaker 1: it's you know, everyone's gonna make fun of this lineup
- 25:25Speaker 1: and we're with you, but you know, just trying to
- 25:27Speaker 1: make sense of it and just point some stuff out.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Real quick running backs against each other. Not only has
- 25:32Speaker 1: you know, the chat caught onto this Cuba with whoever,
- 25:34Speaker 1: because this matchup for both sides is so bad. Has
- 25:37Speaker 1: been a thing. Here's the matchups. First of all, on
- 25:40Speaker 1: f SO throwing James Connor also one of the most
- 25:42Speaker 1: optimal running backs on the slate for our stuff. Same
- 25:45Speaker 1: with Chuba Hobbard. All right, let me throw them in.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm on Pennix, so I'm not playing Richardson.
- 25:50Speaker 1: So we just talked about that. Why not plug in
- 25:53Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor Green across the board? Looks pretty good. Who
- 25:56Speaker 1: were the three wide receivers against? So Booty, Alan and Jays. Yeah,
- 26:02Speaker 1: so you go down here, let me look real quick.
- 26:04Speaker 1: We'll save Booty to the end, but just to look
- 26:06Speaker 1: at it, JSN. And who's the other one?
- 26:09Speaker 2: A Keenan Allen, Keenan.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Allen fire across the board even leverage and you knew
- 26:14Speaker 1: people were playing DJ Moore high leverage. Good. What's the
- 26:17Speaker 1: other one? JSN? Yep, boom crushing it? You know, twenty
- 26:21Speaker 1: five ceiling, twelve point five only six k. He'd been
- 26:24Speaker 1: crushing it anyway, all that past defense too, past defense
- 26:28Speaker 1: D plus. Yet you see that one. We'd already talked
- 26:31Speaker 1: about the Lions R C plus on paper, but have
- 26:33Speaker 1: got worse recently. This has taken a little bit longer sample,
- 26:37Speaker 1: so it's actually got worse. So I think that's fine.
- 26:39Speaker 1: And then he's just the ultimate troll. He knows you
- 26:42Speaker 1: guys want to make up values on slates when there's
- 26:44Speaker 1: no value receivers and play Booty at twenty percent. So
- 26:47Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, I'm going to own these guys.
- 26:49Speaker 1: I'm playing Booty when there is no value at wide
- 26:52Speaker 1: receiver at the same thirty five hundred dollars price tag.
- 26:55Speaker 1: But I'm doing it when there's no ownership on this guy,
- 26:58Speaker 1: and I'm just throwing him in there to make it all.
- 27:00Speaker 1: So maybe you.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Knew people were playing Hunter Henry, right. I mean you
- 27:03Speaker 2: knew people are playing if they were playing New England.
- 27:06Speaker 3: Knew if they were playing a New England piece, and
- 27:08Speaker 3: you knew people were on Josh Allen. I mean he
- 27:11Speaker 3: wasn't Super Chalk, but people were on the bills side
- 27:13Speaker 3: heavy rather it was James Cook, whether it was Kincaid
- 27:16Speaker 3: or Shakir or Josh Allen. Right, So how why do
- 27:20Speaker 3: people like that there has to be some sort of
- 27:22Speaker 3: scoring coming from the New England piece. I mean unless
- 27:26Speaker 3: Baltimore or Buffalo just goes out there and just lays
- 27:29Speaker 3: a fifty spot on him, right and just everybody smashes
- 27:32Speaker 3: kind of like the Lions did. So I don't think
- 27:36Speaker 3: it's the craziest is it a lineup that everybody's gonna build,
- 27:40Speaker 3: and and that's why all the takes are coming out right, like, oh.
- 27:42Speaker 2: My god, this lineups horrible.
- 27:44Speaker 3: But what I pull from it is he played good
- 27:46Speaker 3: plays and good game environments and throw the booty play out.
- 27:49Speaker 3: I mean, you find another guy in there, what like
- 27:51Speaker 3: Malik Washington or something like that, right that people are
- 27:54Speaker 3: he probably still what do you win by eight points?
- 27:57Speaker 1: He could have he could have zero, could have taken
- 27:59Speaker 1: a zero quter back in one.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 28:02Speaker 3: So I mean, at the end of the day, you
- 28:05Speaker 3: can't shit on the lineup too much for anybody that
- 28:07Speaker 3: throws in one lineup in one hundred and thirty thousand
- 28:10Speaker 3: fields and wins it, right, I just I just.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Want to say it though, because as again people always
- 28:14Speaker 1: think I'm backing it up or whatever. Obviously, no MILLI
- 28:16Speaker 1: lineup is a bad lineup either way. People will say
- 28:18Speaker 1: it's built bad. And I definitely look at lineup reviews
- 28:20Speaker 1: probably more than most, so I get it. But I'm
- 28:22Speaker 1: just trying to make a case that if he's throwing
- 28:24Speaker 1: in one lineup. I've had this conversation so much lately
- 28:27Speaker 1: about correlation being step one. Everybody thinks because you correlate,
- 28:31Speaker 1: you win. They're like, oh, but it was all correlated.
- 28:34Speaker 1: It has to be a good lineup. They're not in,
- 28:35Speaker 1: you know, they're in all kinds of off the board places,
- 28:38Speaker 1: lower own things trying to you got to make three
- 28:40Speaker 1: random things work. So even though you made correlations to
- 28:43Speaker 1: make it, like I was talking about, like a single
- 28:44Speaker 1: game parlay, you need three or four things to happen
- 28:47Speaker 1: as opposed to needing nine random events to happen. But
- 28:51Speaker 1: in the end you have to kind of tie it
- 28:52Speaker 1: all together. And well, this didn't have a ton of correlation.
- 28:55Speaker 1: The idea of the leverage spots, like once you have Penix,
- 28:59Speaker 1: cut in him with the defense, if you're not playing Richardson,
- 29:03Speaker 1: play Taylor, two good running back spots against each other.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Most like bothe those spots, hence the ownership somewhat, but
- 29:10Speaker 1: didn't want to play them against each other as often.
- 29:12Speaker 1: A lot of people talking about DK Metcalf at fifty
- 29:15Speaker 1: five hundred, a lot of people talking about DJ Moore, which,
- 29:19Speaker 1: by the way, if you go down to DK Metcalf,
- 29:21Speaker 1: you can go up to DJ Moore. So it's just
- 29:23Speaker 1: a little thing like that. You nailed it with the
- 29:26Speaker 1: Hunter Henry thing. Again, it's random, but it just makes
- 29:28Speaker 1: it work. A lot of people talking about Debo Jennings,
- 29:32Speaker 1: even Patrick Taylor Junior in this spot. Is it crazy, Sure,
- 29:36Speaker 1: but I will say it's probably one of the least
- 29:38Speaker 1: crazy when you can kind of validate for it using
- 29:40Speaker 1: even our tools like the stone of some of the
- 29:42Speaker 1: ones that people are like. Just because it's not correlated,
- 29:45Speaker 1: it doesn't count. There could be thought process put into this.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Maybe there wasn't and they just nailed it all. But
- 29:51Speaker 1: a lot of these were the right places, different pieces
- 29:55Speaker 1: that people were in those same places. It just they
- 29:57Speaker 1: went to other spots within it. So take up for
- 30:00Speaker 1: what it's worth. Try it if you want this upcoming week,
- 30:03Speaker 1: week seventeen, week eighteen to be perfect for something like
- 30:06Speaker 1: this long term and with a full portfolio. I'm not
- 30:08Speaker 1: building like this, and that's that's fine, But I'm saying
- 30:12Speaker 1: if you're playing less lineups and you want to just
- 30:13Speaker 1: look at what something like this looks like, I think
- 30:16Speaker 1: hopefully after that explanation you can at least see some
- 30:18Speaker 1: of what we're talking about to be able to link
- 30:20Speaker 1: it up to that and just have a look from
- 30:22Speaker 1: that perspective. Anything else Aid's on that lineup before we
- 30:25Speaker 1: go to d five to fifty five million Maaker.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Winning, Nope, we can, we can jump over to five
- 30:29Speaker 2: to fifty five.
- 30:31Speaker 1: So this is awesome. I actually would love to get
- 30:34Speaker 1: Jay Gerbs on a interview over at DFS Mastermind because
- 30:37Speaker 1: Jay Gerbs, we've talked about like three times this season
- 30:41Speaker 1: won the Millionmaker. Then we saw the week after it
- 30:44Speaker 1: was like, I think he lost seventy grand, but we
- 30:46Speaker 1: showed like where he was the only had the money.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Obviously he was playing within his means, had some good
- 30:50Speaker 1: results in other places to make up for those losses
- 30:53Speaker 1: in the higher dollar you know, big risk events like
- 30:56Speaker 1: this one, and then this week comes back and wins
- 30:59Speaker 1: the Millimaker again in the five fifty five. So congrats
- 31:01Speaker 1: to Jay Gerbs. This is awesome to see. I think
- 31:03Speaker 1: this lineup is gonna appease the people a lot more.
- 31:07Speaker 1: This lineup, to me, just makes perfect sense. I love
- 31:09Speaker 1: this build and funny enough though, this is what you
- 31:12Speaker 1: know back to your point. You know, Chuba Hubbard, Keenan
- 31:16Speaker 1: Allen Debo and not Kittle, Hunter Henry and not Booty.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was on it in the same spot you know,
- 31:23Speaker 1: like a lot of this isn't that far off from
- 31:25Speaker 1: what that other lineup just had. And then even in
- 31:28Speaker 1: the other spots, it's in the same game, different spots
- 31:31Speaker 1: and he got same or better results. So just keep
- 31:33Speaker 1: that in mind as you're going through and just you know,
- 31:35Speaker 1: before you're shitting on everything, think about these things as
- 31:37Speaker 1: you're going through them. But Naates, I'll kick this one
- 31:39Speaker 1: to you. Congrats again to Jay Gerbs. This is a
- 31:41Speaker 1: really nice lineup here, and we'll go to his other
- 31:44Speaker 1: one that was up in the mix as well in
- 31:46Speaker 1: a second, because interestingly enough, if you didn't see it
- 31:49Speaker 1: on the previous screen, I don't want to mess it
- 31:50Speaker 1: up because sometimes this thing goes back and forth. But
- 31:52Speaker 1: this same lineup he did have it in, so he
- 31:56Speaker 1: must have ran the same sets because this lineup finished
- 31:59Speaker 1: like seventh rate over in the twenty dollars Million Maker
- 32:02Speaker 1: at two twenty four as well.
- 32:03Speaker 3: But go ahead, yeah, I love the spilt obviously the
- 32:07Speaker 3: target game. Going back to the stone right, the Kiboy
- 32:09Speaker 3: and DJ Moore, Keenan Allen all three highlighted all good
- 32:12Speaker 3: optimal is really good stack, ranking the best we've seen
- 32:15Speaker 3: all season. To your point, easiest runback, right, Jamior Gibbs
- 32:19Speaker 3: best play on the slate yesterday. Everybody knew that didn't
- 32:22Speaker 3: actually like smash smash, but it didn't matter. I mean
- 32:25Speaker 3: when sixty percent of the field is playing him, I
- 32:28Speaker 3: mean he's good.
- 32:29Speaker 2: So I love that.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard already talked about it opposite size of James Connor. Obviously,
- 32:33Speaker 3: James Connor had a good day too, but Chuba Hubbard
- 32:35Speaker 3: had a better day at way low lower ownership right
- 32:38Speaker 3: in the exact same game, right talked about it. If
- 32:40Speaker 3: that game's crypt flips, it's likely Chuba Hubbard's having a
- 32:43Speaker 3: big day, right, So I like that a lot. And
- 32:47Speaker 3: the Deepo Samuel play I thought was great because people
- 32:51Speaker 3: wanted to try and figure out that running back situation
- 32:53Speaker 3: in San Francisco with guys like Patrick Taylor. Right, who
- 32:57Speaker 3: mind you was also fifty two hundred. You already saw
- 33:00Speaker 3: they know they they didn't. We've seen these guys on
- 33:03Speaker 3: a showdown. They don't want Patrick Taylor. Patrick Taylor is
- 33:06Speaker 3: more of like a gadget guy, right, He's not in
- 33:09Speaker 3: every down back we saw Deebo Samuel getting carries literally
- 33:13Speaker 3: running back carries. The last time we seen them on
- 33:17Speaker 3: a showdown last week, right, fifty two hundred, exact same
- 33:20Speaker 3: team in the running spot. So I like that to
- 33:24Speaker 3: play a ton that Deebo Samuel play. We already talked
- 33:27Speaker 3: about the Hunter Henry there tight end. Everybody was playing strange, right,
- 33:31Speaker 3: So you spend up a little bit more to Hunter
- 33:34Speaker 3: Henry at a onesie position with way less ownership, and then.
- 33:38Speaker 2: The Anthony Richardson. How does Anthony Richardson fail?
- 33:42Speaker 3: Well, it's likely that the defense is doing decent and
- 33:45Speaker 3: then Jonathan Taylor is doing decent paaram both together you
- 33:47Speaker 3: leverage the field completely. So I love this build. Amazing
- 33:50Speaker 3: build in, really good portfolio in general.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to see something quick, like just
- 33:55Speaker 1: looking at his ownerships here like one seventy I'm looking
- 33:58Speaker 1: at total two two he let in, but the product
- 34:01Speaker 1: ownership is pretty light because one, two, three, four four
- 34:05Speaker 1: lower owned plays, So just just to see it. I
- 34:07Speaker 1: was just looking at this real quick, so you guys
- 34:08Speaker 1: can see. But yeah, I love this lineup. I'll go
- 34:11Speaker 1: through it on my end. But it was a fifty
- 34:13Speaker 1: k spend one hundred and sixty five percent total. It
- 34:15Speaker 1: still had you know, three pretty low owned, four pretty
- 34:18Speaker 1: low ten percent or less type plays and then the
- 34:21Speaker 1: other thing that's like kind of the flip of the
- 34:22Speaker 1: build right, like if you're starting Caleb more Alan Gibbs,
- 34:26Speaker 1: which we just showed on the Stone, you can you
- 34:28Speaker 1: can go back over to it here again, you can
- 34:29Speaker 1: go back to the rest of the lineup. If you're
- 34:32Speaker 1: doing that, I think you're looking at where does my
- 34:33Speaker 1: leverage come from next? If I'm not on some of
- 34:36Speaker 1: the other spots. While we alread talked about it, look
- 34:38Speaker 1: at Chewbahubbard here coming in lower owned. We said it
- 34:41Speaker 1: all week. I said it on the the show with
- 34:42Speaker 1: Hoop on the first look, and then it kept going
- 34:44Speaker 1: as the week went on. I said, there's just no
- 34:46Speaker 1: way he's getting more ownership than Connor and they both
- 34:48Speaker 1: had good games. Hubbard got there in ot but shout
- 34:50Speaker 1: out to my fellow Canadian Chuba Hubbard getting the job done.
- 34:53Speaker 1: So that'll be featured on all the commercials we have
- 34:56Speaker 1: up here in Canada now. But good day for him
- 34:58Speaker 1: walking it off in overtime. But just to note, very
- 35:01Speaker 1: solid play, very fair matchup. Everything was good there. If
- 35:05Speaker 1: you're not playing, we've already talked about this one enough.
- 35:07Speaker 1: But if you're not in on that. Even the defense
- 35:09Speaker 1: the Colts more popular start the week fell off a little,
- 35:12Speaker 1: but a good let you know, still leverage and good
- 35:14Speaker 1: optimal rate. Leverage, good optimal rate. And then Hunter Henry
- 35:18Speaker 1: was down the board as very very strong, you know,
- 35:21Speaker 1: solid for tight end position, optimal le and with leverage
- 35:25Speaker 1: to go with it. So I thought this build was
- 35:27Speaker 1: pretty solid. You can't play everywhere, and I guess, go back.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Let me just see quick on Debo too, right. I
- 35:32Speaker 1: also was high on this. I said this one yesterday.
- 35:35Speaker 1: We played dfs so long to know that Debo was
- 35:38Speaker 1: just gonna have a good game yesterday. It was just
- 35:39Speaker 1: the way it goes the experience. I had a ton
- 35:42Speaker 1: of them. I backed it up and played them like that,
- 35:44Speaker 1: but didn't get him in the right positions, the right
- 35:46Speaker 1: spots with the overall build. But just to note another
- 35:48Speaker 1: one here, you know, way less owned eleven percent less
- 35:52Speaker 1: owned with a very similar projection and really almost the
- 35:56Speaker 1: exact same ceiling as Jennings. And then we knew there
- 35:59Speaker 1: was other stuff that was hitting the spot up and
- 36:01Speaker 1: if you couldn't get to that, but just look, Patrick
- 36:03Speaker 1: Taylor not as high there, Debo there, So I playing
- 36:07Speaker 1: it in flex and I talked about that on the
- 36:08Speaker 1: show as well. That would be a way to get
- 36:10Speaker 1: to it. So congrats to Jay Gerbs. This was their
- 36:13Speaker 1: other lineup needs that finished up top was Caleb Williams,
- 36:17Speaker 1: Moore Allen no runback the trifecta of since he guys
- 36:22Speaker 1: still hitting on that Taylor Hubbard combination and Debo in
- 36:26Speaker 1: the mix as well. What do you think of this one?
- 36:28Speaker 1: I'll talk more on in a second, but I'll kick
- 36:30Speaker 1: it to you first forty nine to seven, and I
- 36:32Speaker 1: don't know that there was really any late swap stuff.
- 36:34Speaker 1: This was all early guys except for Deebo, right, So
- 36:37Speaker 1: just kick it back to you for a second and
- 36:38Speaker 1: talk about this one.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Yeah, so all the same setup hit on the Cincinnati piece.
- 36:44Speaker 2: People were trying to go to the Jol Burrow and
- 36:46Speaker 2: Jamar Chase stuff, right, So if Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase,
- 36:50Speaker 2: who likely if they're having big games, they're attached to
- 36:53Speaker 2: each other. So if they're still scoring points, it's likely
- 36:56Speaker 2: a onesie position, right, a guy like Aseki who can
- 36:59Speaker 2: get him down there or in the red zone in
- 37:01Speaker 2: Chase Brown. And then if those guys are doing it,
- 37:04Speaker 2: and Burrow and them are not smashing the slate. Likely
- 37:07Speaker 2: you just throwing the defense there, because it's likely the
- 37:09Speaker 2: defense is having a pretty big good day if in
- 37:11Speaker 2: this spot yesterday that they were in Cincinnati at home
- 37:13Speaker 2: against Cleveland, right, the defense has to be involved. So
- 37:17Speaker 2: I like that play.
- 37:18Speaker 3: And then everyonething else we already hit on. So I
- 37:21Speaker 3: did like that that kind of combo pack there, what
- 37:24Speaker 3: seventy seven, yeah, seventy seven and what thirty thirty five hundred?
- 37:30Speaker 2: Was it?
- 37:31Speaker 3: Jamar Chase was what eighty? So it's a little bit
- 37:34Speaker 3: more expensive for the combo pack those two.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I like that. And that's the
- 37:39Speaker 1: only thing I would say is like, if it's not
- 37:41Speaker 1: Chase Higgins, etc. For getting there, it's probably just gonna
- 37:43Speaker 1: be Chase Brown in the defense. But if you need
- 37:45Speaker 1: a cheap way to add it in. And I'm pretty
- 37:47Speaker 1: sure this game was in the morning, right, like I
- 37:49Speaker 1: have to go about yeah, it was the first game
- 37:50Speaker 1: I remember this now, So interestingly enough, leaving the Brenton
- 37:55Speaker 1: Strange play out of this right with having the ability
- 37:58Speaker 1: to do it for two hundred bucks more, No Gibbs,
- 38:01Speaker 1: no Strange, So not even going after either of those spots.
- 38:05Speaker 1: And again doesn't you know, it doesn't really matter because
- 38:07Speaker 1: you made up for the leverage in other positions here.
- 38:09Speaker 1: But just to note it like that was interesting to me?
- 38:11Speaker 1: Is that just said, you know, this is pretty standard stuff.
- 38:13Speaker 1: You'll see a running back dst stack, but then Giseki
- 38:17Speaker 1: plugging in as opposed to strange. So now because I
- 38:20Speaker 1: can break it if I do, I do just a
- 38:22Speaker 1: quick breakdown and we will have the thirty three to
- 38:24Speaker 1: thirty three ticket for DFS Mastermind coming up here shortly,
- 38:27Speaker 1: so just stick stay tuned, go through that in a
- 38:29Speaker 1: minute with you. But he was high on Bryce Young,
- 38:31Speaker 1: and this is the stuff we do over there breaking
- 38:33Speaker 1: down further review and then how you can apply it.
- 38:35Speaker 1: But going back and doing a deep dive Bryce Young,
- 38:38Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels and then Caleb Williams just slightly over
- 38:41Speaker 1: the field he did in this one hundred and fifty
- 38:44Speaker 1: use the portfolio to play some one offs of some
- 38:46Speaker 1: other spots. Like I know it's not for everybody, but
- 38:50Speaker 1: picking and choosing a couple other quarterbacks and you just
- 38:53Speaker 1: put a few lineups in. That's just the way some
- 38:54Speaker 1: people do it, and they have like the way to
- 38:56Speaker 1: select their best lineup that they would want for this
- 38:59Speaker 1: specif tournament. So lineup selection is a big thing that'll
- 39:03Speaker 1: be coming up soon I'll be talking about. So that's
- 39:05Speaker 1: definitely a thought here. If you go to running back
- 39:09Speaker 1: under the field, but still at about fifty percent on
- 39:11Speaker 1: Jremieer Gibbs, and I think that's pretty fair. I was surprised.
- 39:15Speaker 1: I thought maybe Gibbs would stay a little bit in check.
- 39:17Speaker 1: I knew we'd be the most popular. I'm not saying that,
- 39:19Speaker 1: but versus Hubbard the week before was like a thousand
- 39:21Speaker 1: bucks less and I thought it was gonna be close
- 39:23Speaker 1: to that situation. But I was having conversation with people
- 39:26Speaker 1: back and forth, thought maybe he'd stay around the forty
- 39:28Speaker 1: to fifty range. And I'm the only reason I bring
- 39:31Speaker 1: all that up is to say, maybe Jay Gerbs was saying, listen,
- 39:34Speaker 1: I'm gonna live and die with fifty percent. If he
- 39:36Speaker 1: comes in at forty, I'm overweight. If he comes in
- 39:39Speaker 1: at fifty, I'm at the field. And if he comes
- 39:41Speaker 1: in at sixty, I'm slightly underweight. But I got enough
- 39:44Speaker 1: that that's really what that comes down to for me.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Hubbard Connor, those two in the same spot. We talked
- 39:49Speaker 1: about it, same game. You know, Barkley six percent, Kyron
- 39:53Speaker 1: Williams not many on got some leverage there. Jonathan Taylor
- 39:57Speaker 1: though a big stand yesterday and just looking back Richardson
- 40:03Speaker 1: like none, So talk about a move right when I've
- 40:05Speaker 1: talked about this, nads and I'll let you hit on it.
- 40:07Speaker 1: But I think you watched me going through some of
- 40:09Speaker 1: my optimizer process is if this, then that if you're
- 40:13Speaker 1: taking this stand and you're reviewing your stuff and saying, well,
- 40:15Speaker 1: I don't have any Richardson, you don't have to. It's
- 40:19Speaker 1: saying but if you're not, what are you thinking happens?
- 40:21Speaker 1: And if you have a story against this, then maybe
- 40:23Speaker 1: you have a bunch of Tennessee defense. But if not,
- 40:26Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see. Let's see here any Titans. No,
- 40:31Speaker 1: not much at all, but you see where they took
- 40:34Speaker 1: their stand. Go ahead and aids, but you know, big
- 40:35Speaker 1: time stand here eighteen almost twenty percent Jonathan Taylor in
- 40:38Speaker 1: this spot.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:39Speaker 3: So the biggest thing I look at is, Okay, yesterday
- 40:41Speaker 3: going in the slate, who are the most hockey kind
- 40:44Speaker 3: of cheap quarterbacks? It was Pennex, it was Anthony Richardson, right,
- 40:47Speaker 3: and Cal Williams. He was going in on Cal Williams.
- 40:50Speaker 3: He was off of Pennex and he was off of
- 40:52Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson. So then he leveraged Anthony Richardson with Jonathan
- 40:55Speaker 3: Taylor in his portfolio. It looked like he was off
- 40:58Speaker 3: at Atlanta stuff, just with the unknowns in general, right,
- 41:03Speaker 3: So I like what he did with his portfolio overall,
- 41:06Speaker 3: because he was off those guys. So then he threw
- 41:09Speaker 3: in and went way overweight on Bryce Young in that
- 41:11Speaker 3: same range, right and kind and Aidan O'Connell, the two
- 41:15Speaker 3: other cheap guys down there, because he already was playing
- 41:18Speaker 3: Cal Williams. Leverage it with right the Brian Robinson he
- 41:22Speaker 3: was up there. So overall, I really like that that
- 41:26Speaker 3: portfolio looks like he was kind of under in general
- 41:29Speaker 3: right on that those Atlanta pieces, leveraged Anthony and Richardson
- 41:32Speaker 3: stuf with the Jonathan Taylor and then played the other
- 41:34Speaker 3: two cheap quarterbacks game environments that didn't work out. But
- 41:37Speaker 3: that goes back to the portfolio management that you talk
- 41:39Speaker 3: about all the time. Right, It's not that you're just
- 41:42Speaker 3: cutting Pennix, right, or you're just cutting Anthony Richardson. I'm
- 41:45Speaker 3: just gonna cut these guys. What does that do if
- 41:47Speaker 3: those guys aren't getting there somebody else in those game environments,
- 41:50Speaker 3: those guys are popular for a reason. People are attacking
- 41:52Speaker 3: them for a reason. Right, So I thought that was
- 41:56Speaker 3: really nice just looking at his portfolio in general.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all. It all makes I think people this
- 42:00Speaker 1: is where people stop, but they recognize. Okay, if I'm
- 42:03Speaker 1: playing a bunch of Bryce Young, I probably have a
- 42:05Speaker 1: bunch of his receivers and his running back and his
- 42:07Speaker 1: overstacks and whatever it might be. Well, what do you know,
- 42:10Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of deeling, and I've got a
- 42:12Speaker 1: bunch of Coker. Let me guess. Oh wait, there it is.
- 42:15Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of McBride. Right other side of
- 42:17Speaker 1: that game, he's got a bunch of James Connor Hubbard.
- 42:20Speaker 1: So he was all over that game for a big
- 42:22Speaker 1: portion of the portfolio, but then he was sliding in
- 42:26Speaker 1: the other positions like Gibbs. Makes a ton of sense.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor when not going to that spot, Chase Brown
- 42:31Speaker 1: when not going to Burrow, when you go to wide receiver.
- 42:35Speaker 1: What goes with the Chicago Detroit stuff? The Keenan Allen
- 42:38Speaker 1: the DJ Moore and he's my third highest ooned quarterback
- 42:42Speaker 1: as well. Go back over, like all this stuff is
- 42:44Speaker 1: gonna start to make sense big stan on Terry McLaurin,
- 42:47Speaker 1: because he's got those builds in the portfolio. Butio portfolio
- 42:51Speaker 1: manipulation is something I kind of it's real, but just
- 42:54Speaker 1: putting a word to it and making up what it
- 42:56Speaker 1: actually means is it's I think people just stop and say, Okay,
- 42:59Speaker 1: I've got these quarterbacks. It gives me this perfect I
- 43:03Speaker 1: got all my good quarterbacks with what they're supposed to have.
- 43:06Speaker 1: But that's the correlation. And any good optimizer ship demizer
- 43:10Speaker 1: most certainly can help you with that over a ship
- 43:12Speaker 1: a nation because we've got it set up with team
- 43:14Speaker 1: stacks and with runbacks and secondary stacks, and you'll get
- 43:17Speaker 1: competitive lineups just by clicking a few buttons. But you
- 43:20Speaker 1: still gotta get it to what you want. It's still
- 43:23Speaker 1: your money going in. And if you're saying, Okay, I'm
- 43:26Speaker 1: not gonna be high on Anthony Richardson, but I don't
- 43:30Speaker 1: think that game is trash. Like I'm not going and
- 43:32Speaker 1: loading up on the Titans D I'll take whatever it
- 43:35Speaker 1: gives me. Oh, it only gave me point seven. Well,
- 43:37Speaker 1: I actually think they're gonna do something here, So guess
- 43:40Speaker 1: how I'm gonna get there. I know what I'm gonna do.
- 43:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna get triple the field, almost double the field
- 43:44Speaker 1: at least on Jonathan Taylor, depending on what I see
- 43:47Speaker 1: him coming in at. But I see him projected for eight.
- 43:49Speaker 1: Give me ten percent over the field. He came in
- 43:51Speaker 1: at seven and a half. You've got eighteen percent, so
- 43:54Speaker 1: you kem in if it. Look at the Brian Robinson.
- 43:56Speaker 1: I know a lot of people would look at this
- 43:57Speaker 1: and say, well, why does he have Brian Robinson so high? Again,
- 44:01Speaker 1: look at what he's doing If he's twenty percent Jayden Daniels.
- 44:04Speaker 1: First of all, you can play them together. Second of all,
- 44:07Speaker 1: when he loves the spot for Washington against Philly here
- 44:09Speaker 1: and he's not on Jayden Daniels, he's saying, give me
- 44:12Speaker 1: some Robinson to make up for that spot. And that's
- 44:15Speaker 1: the real difference maker that it comes down to your
- 44:17Speaker 1: or your setup. And this can be applied whether you
- 44:20Speaker 1: have twenty lineups, fifty lineups, one hundred lineups, one fifty
- 44:24Speaker 1: four fifty uniques across three separate tournaments where you can
- 44:27Speaker 1: play one fifty in each and pick them differently. You
- 44:30Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. It looks like Jay Gerbs
- 44:32Speaker 1: runs the same set in both because like I said,
- 44:35Speaker 1: I saw his top lineup here was the sixth or
- 44:38Speaker 1: seventh or eighth place something over in the twenty dollars
- 44:40Speaker 1: million Maker. But these deep dives are how you get
- 44:43Speaker 1: better as a player and find that stuff out. So
- 44:45Speaker 1: before we go to the lineups that we're reviewing for
- 44:49Speaker 1: members and people around the internet, needs gonna go quick
- 44:52Speaker 1: over to DFS Mastermind to talk about it because we're
- 44:54Speaker 1: giving away the thirty three to thirty three ticket. If
- 44:57Speaker 1: you haven't checked it out, not gonna go through a
- 44:58Speaker 1: whole spiel here. You can learn more. Just go to
- 45:00Speaker 1: dfsmastermind dot com. It's all training review, application content, live
- 45:07Speaker 1: cohort training events, the roundtables, all that stuff, the interviews
- 45:11Speaker 1: with other DFS players both professional and casual. But you
- 45:14Speaker 1: can check that out. I created. It's my passion project
- 45:17Speaker 1: that I wanted to put out there. It's a lot
- 45:19Speaker 1: about my process. You can see the costs there. There
- 45:22Speaker 1: still is the bonus you get the full course. A
- 45:24Speaker 1: lot of people have said this course alone is worth it.
- 45:27Speaker 1: There is a special mystery bonus which if you like
- 45:29Speaker 1: bonus number one, you're gonna love bonus number two, and
- 45:33Speaker 1: then just going inside of it quick to talk about it.
- 45:35Speaker 1: But this is inside the community. You get the course
- 45:37Speaker 1: right away, so you have instant access to the mymap course.
- 45:40Speaker 1: You can download the audio if you're on the go.
- 45:43Speaker 1: December content schedule will flip soon to January content, but
- 45:46Speaker 1: you can see a ton of these staggered slates coming up.
- 45:50Speaker 1: My own optimizer process with ship Tomizer, that's what I use.
- 45:53Speaker 1: You can apply it to any optimizer. Breaking down a
- 45:56Speaker 1: couple more things upcoming this week. There's already three player interviews.
- 46:00Speaker 1: My guy Kenny W seventeen thirty two, who sent me
- 46:03Speaker 1: down to Nashville where there was bonus content of the
- 46:05Speaker 1: Fantasy Football World Championship. If you've never been to a
- 46:08Speaker 1: live final and want to see what they're all about,
- 46:10Speaker 1: that is there. Our guy Scarface from shipa Nation, amazing dude,
- 46:13Speaker 1: hoped I'm gonna be breaking down how he balances a
- 46:15Speaker 1: busy lifestyle with playing dfs and then one of the
- 46:18Speaker 1: most underrated players out there, He's joined us on this
- 46:20Speaker 1: very show. NYG Fan fifty six NFL Showdown, Top Pros Breakdown,
- 46:25Speaker 1: udicaal Macklove and Fantas and Peter Gibbons. I do the
- 46:28Speaker 1: deep dive that we just did a little bit of
- 46:31Speaker 1: with Jay Gerbs and showing that, and then my NFL
- 46:34Speaker 1: forty K score over on FanDuel shows not just the
- 46:37Speaker 1: score in the lineup review, but how I managed a
- 46:40Speaker 1: portfolio of five and I turned it into six in
- 46:43Speaker 1: this one. But it showed how I managed them together.
- 46:46Speaker 1: And it wasn't a five or six max tournament. It
- 46:49Speaker 1: was a one to fifty max with the best players
- 46:51Speaker 1: in the world. So you'll see where I talked through
- 46:53Speaker 1: how I'm handling it based on that. We also planned
- 46:56Speaker 1: the outline had a big live event that we did,
- 46:58Speaker 1: so just going back up quick, all the strategy courses
- 47:01Speaker 1: are here, my optimizer process covering loading the dry run,
- 47:06Speaker 1: how I'm looking for leverage, different steps and go in
- 47:08Speaker 1: the extra mile, like we talked about more optimizer runs
- 47:11Speaker 1: than most will do to make sure you're getting exactly
- 47:14Speaker 1: what you want and setting groups and adding your own
- 47:16Speaker 1: personal touch. So if you need help using an optimized
- 47:18Speaker 1: if people said to me, if I can just see
- 47:20Speaker 1: over your shoulder, that'd be extremely helpful. This is a
- 47:23Speaker 1: I forget I think it's an hour and seventeen minutes.
- 47:25Speaker 1: I'll pall you an hour in seventeen minutes. My guy,
- 47:27Speaker 1: Billy Gableman stat ATL went through how to attack the
- 47:30Speaker 1: short slates. So with all these two gamers, Christmas a
- 47:33Speaker 1: three gamer this weekend staggered a lot more of these
- 47:36Speaker 1: coming up throughout the playoffs. This covers all of that.
- 47:39Speaker 1: Not going to go through it all, but there's the interviews,
- 47:42Speaker 1: there's the case studies. This has the forty k lineup
- 47:45Speaker 1: review if you want to go check that out, the
- 47:46Speaker 1: Q and A. You can watch back the whole roundtable.
- 47:49Speaker 1: We went live for an hour and forty five minutes.
- 47:52Speaker 1: People on zoom together, so join the community. Check it out.
- 47:55Speaker 1: It's got everything there. The best pairing is with ship
- 47:58Speaker 1: at Nation. We talked about it already. How you can
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- 48:04Speaker 1: or you get the single sport with rest of season
- 48:07Speaker 1: super Bowl through Super Bowl with or without the optimizer,
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- 48:18Speaker 1: Bowl already, So if you're planning on being us with
- 48:20Speaker 1: us for golf, you'll get all that and more. All right,
- 48:23Speaker 1: the winner neids before I go to the lineup that
- 48:26Speaker 1: we're gonna review. Jake Sanders is up. Sorry, Jake, you're
- 48:29Speaker 1: my boy. We did a one on one call over
- 48:30Speaker 1: at Mastermind, but you were not the winner. I got
- 48:34Speaker 1: the winner this morning. I had a very randomized process
- 48:38Speaker 1: using everyone knows I'm a big family men, and I
- 48:40Speaker 1: had it set up all in rows that I've been
- 48:43Speaker 1: putting all the extra ballots in and everything, and there
- 48:45Speaker 1: was over five hundred names and emails in there, and
- 48:49Speaker 1: it was set up, and I asked my daughter to
- 48:51Speaker 1: pick a number between one and thirty for the rows.
- 48:54Speaker 1: I asked my wife to pick a number within, said, bro,
- 48:58Speaker 1: I've been watching Beast Games by the way on Amazon,
- 49:00Speaker 1: so I'm thinking about Rose and the stuff with the
- 49:02Speaker 1: Mister b show that's on right now. But just to
- 49:05Speaker 1: note it. Then I had to involve my son, and
- 49:07Speaker 1: he's the littlest one. He's not going to pick the
- 49:09Speaker 1: numbers and know it all exactly right now. But I said,
- 49:12Speaker 1: do we go from the beginning or the end and
- 49:14Speaker 1: they all picked their numbers and it was twenty three
- 49:18Speaker 1: seven and top. It took us all the way back
- 49:21Speaker 1: to the first day when people first signed up one
- 49:24Speaker 1: month ago today, So thank you guys for all the support.
- 49:27Speaker 1: The winner is, without further ado, Matt Higgins. So I
- 49:31Speaker 1: think it's Higgo underscore something in the discord. But Matt
- 49:34Speaker 1: Higgins signed up on day one for the one time membership.
- 49:38Speaker 1: I don't know Matt, at least as far as I know,
- 49:40Speaker 1: but you'll, Matt reach out. I'll send you an email
- 49:43Speaker 1: after this. Matt Higgins is the winner of the thirty
- 49:45Speaker 1: three thirty three ticket and we'll be in the Ultimate
- 49:49Speaker 1: Mega this week. NIDS, you're in the community. You did
- 49:53Speaker 1: not win either. But of note, I'm also doing a
- 49:56Speaker 1: giveaway for ship it Nation and DFS Mastermind from my
- 50:00Speaker 1: own personal money. So I have five tickets into the
- 50:04Speaker 1: three thousand, three hundred and thirty three dollars tournament coming
- 50:07Speaker 1: up this Sunday. Hopefully I make some cash there because
- 50:10Speaker 1: the giveaway involves having to win the cash first, but
- 50:13Speaker 1: up to one hundred thousand dollars because it's going to
- 50:16Speaker 1: be two and a half percent to ship It Nation members.
- 50:19Speaker 1: So if you're not in yet joint, if you're in,
- 50:22Speaker 1: you're in and two and a half percent to DFS
- 50:25Speaker 1: Mastermind members. If I win, the two million, five percent
- 50:29Speaker 1: is going to be one hundred thousand and it would
- 50:31Speaker 1: be fifty grand to either side, and then we'll talk
- 50:33Speaker 1: about how we're going to distribute it. It's not gonna
- 50:35Speaker 1: be a fifty k payout straight, but just to note it,
- 50:38Speaker 1: it is going to be up to fifty thousand for
- 50:41Speaker 1: either side. So all you have to do is be
- 50:43Speaker 1: a member before this upcoming weekend, so it will end
- 50:47Speaker 1: at lock on Sunday, and that's what it's gonna be.
- 50:50Speaker 1: December twenty ninth, at lock is when this ends. If
- 50:53Speaker 1: you're a member at ship It Nation or you're a
- 50:55Speaker 1: member at DFS Mastermind, you're in the draw for this
- 50:59Speaker 1: up to two and a half percent. It will be
- 51:01Speaker 1: two and a half percent of my biggest cash when
- 51:02Speaker 1: I have to cash something first. So hopefully need's all
- 51:05Speaker 1: these close calls fifteen and the fan Duel Millie Maker
- 51:08Speaker 1: last week thirty eight or forty third or something yesterday
- 51:11Speaker 1: in the five forty five on DraftKings. Maybe we're saving
- 51:14Speaker 1: it all for the big one. My friend. Any thoughts
- 51:16Speaker 1: on all that before we get to these line of reviews.
- 51:18Speaker 3: Yeah, no, amazing. I mean people talk about giving back
- 51:22Speaker 3: all the time. I mean you're literally giving back now
- 51:24Speaker 3: to a company company money. You're giving back out of
- 51:26Speaker 3: your pocket right and your entries that you put harder
- 51:28Speaker 3: and sweat and money and tears and grind and all
- 51:31Speaker 3: that to get those five tickets. So hopefully you get
- 51:34Speaker 3: one all the way to the top. And I got
- 51:35Speaker 3: Billy in chat there. Him and I have been talking
- 51:38Speaker 3: about bourbon and that, and we share a lot of
- 51:40Speaker 3: the same passions there. He said, when can we expect
- 51:42Speaker 3: bourbon on the takedown when we're reviewing my lineup up
- 51:45Speaker 3: there on the big takedown. So that's the goal. Thought,
- 51:49Speaker 3: I had it last night, but hey, no one cares.
- 51:51Speaker 2: Work harder. We'll get back. And these close calls you've
- 51:55Speaker 2: had them, We've all had them.
- 51:56Speaker 3: And it feels like that's the story of the season
- 51:59Speaker 3: for me this year, right ceedee lamb two inches short
- 52:02Speaker 3: of a touchdowns just me all the money last night.
- 52:04Speaker 2: But hey whatever, But yeah, no, I love that.
- 52:08Speaker 3: Amazing congrats out there to Matt, amazing community and anybody
- 52:13Speaker 3: out there who is like why do I need this? Right,
- 52:16Speaker 3: I mean not only that, just the community, the discord,
- 52:19Speaker 3: a loan of like minded individuals out there. I mean,
- 52:21Speaker 3: Billy he went on and broke down the staggered slates.
- 52:24Speaker 3: The first time I put that into process on Thanksgiving,
- 52:27Speaker 3: I had four live lineups to win all the money
- 52:30Speaker 3: the first, very first day I put it in talking
- 52:33Speaker 3: about that portfolio. And it's just a mindset thing, right,
- 52:36Speaker 3: going into a slate. What's the most likely outcome you're
- 52:38Speaker 3: going to lose? Right, So when you go into a slate,
- 52:41Speaker 3: you set up your lineups and approach and different things
- 52:44Speaker 3: like that. So amazing, amazing processes over there. And appreciate
- 52:48Speaker 3: you doing doing what you're doing for the community and
- 52:50Speaker 3: for the industry in general. Just given behind the lens, right,
- 52:54Speaker 3: how many other people are literally putting a camera on
- 52:56Speaker 3: them when they're going through their optimizer process?
- 52:58Speaker 1: Right?
- 52:58Speaker 3: Their secret sauce if you will not many, I'll tell
- 53:02Speaker 3: you nobody, right, nobody else health carries There no real secret.
- 53:05Speaker 1: To it in the sense of I just thinking again,
- 53:06Speaker 1: not a lot of people want to do that, but
- 53:08Speaker 1: it's more of it you're supposed to, you know. The
- 53:10Speaker 1: goal is people can pick up on different things that
- 53:12Speaker 1: they can add to their process. Like you mentioned, Billy
- 53:14Speaker 1: brought up the staggered process situation for staggered slates. That's
- 53:18Speaker 1: incredible because nobody really understands it or thinks of that
- 53:21Speaker 1: going in. It was just a mindset change for people,
- 53:23Speaker 1: a bit of a game changer, and oh, I can
- 53:26Speaker 1: do this. We've seen some really success some really big
- 53:28Speaker 1: success stories already. And like I said, when you pair
- 53:30Speaker 1: ship it nation, the tools, the data, the stone, all
- 53:33Speaker 1: the stuff we're talking about that I use myself when
- 53:35Speaker 1: I'm showing my own process over there. It's the mention
- 53:38Speaker 1: of using that stuff and applying it. Doesn't mean you'll
- 53:41Speaker 1: do the exact same way, but if you can pick
- 53:43Speaker 1: up anything, that's the goal and aids you and Billy
- 53:46Speaker 1: will have to close your ears. But you were talking
- 53:47Speaker 1: about reviewing the lineups. You know, pour one out. You
- 53:50Speaker 1: don't want to ever pour out a good bourbon. But
- 53:52Speaker 1: it's been that sort of season, right for some of
- 53:54Speaker 1: these close calls. I know you've had a bunch of
- 53:56Speaker 1: them and hopefully one gets over the hump for you.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Here's one that almost got over the hump. Getting back
- 54:00Speaker 1: on track for Douglas, Douglas, my boy Jake Sanders. He's
- 54:04Speaker 1: a voiceover actor or voiceover guy. Like he goes in
- 54:08Speaker 1: his little room and does his voice recording. So pretty cool.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Don't know anybody else in the world that does that,
- 54:13Speaker 1: but Nate's. I'll let you break down his lineup looks
- 54:15Speaker 1: like he was looking at a lot of the stuff
- 54:17Speaker 1: we had over there with the Williams Allen Gibbs. To start,
- 54:23Speaker 1: he got an a chan with Gibbs instead of pivoting.
- 54:26Speaker 1: Interesting and nice. I kind of like that for some
- 54:27Speaker 1: leverage in another different way where most would be pivoting,
- 54:30Speaker 1: he used both Chase McLeod Aconquo Wandale, who I think
- 54:36Speaker 1: was actually a really nice leverage play to neighbors on
- 54:39Speaker 1: this slate because he didn't have cheap value and you
- 54:41Speaker 1: could just drop down what if it was him in
- 54:43Speaker 1: this type of game script. So give me your thoughts
- 54:45Speaker 1: on this one. Another person out there that's pairing up
- 54:48Speaker 1: ship at Nation with DMS Mastermind looks good.
- 54:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this.
- 54:52Speaker 3: The only thing I don't love is the one off
- 54:55Speaker 3: Chase we talked about that a bonch wright usually if
- 54:57Speaker 3: he needs at his price point eighty three hundre or
- 55:00Speaker 3: whatever he was yesterday on the slate with terrible value.
- 55:03Speaker 3: I mean, guys like Malik Washington right were twelve fifteen
- 55:06Speaker 3: percent on because there was no value, right. All the
- 55:09Speaker 3: value was kind of in that mid tier, right, So
- 55:12Speaker 3: that's the only kind of thing off the top.
- 55:15Speaker 2: I probably would have liked.
- 55:16Speaker 3: Him more attached to Burrow and kind of upgrading the
- 55:21Speaker 3: Ray Ray McCloud or the Wandell Robinson secondary little mini there,
- 55:25Speaker 3: which I don't hate. You just get out cheap in
- 55:27Speaker 3: a little secondary correlated stack there, I don't. I don't
- 55:30Speaker 3: hate that. I thought Wandea was actually a pretty decent play.
- 55:33Speaker 3: I played him on the opposite side of Bijon a
- 55:36Speaker 3: lot in my secondary stacks because I couldn't get up to.
- 55:40Speaker 2: Elite neighbors, right. And it's also leveraged off of neighbors.
- 55:43Speaker 3: In that same game, everybody that was playing at giants
- 55:46Speaker 3: piece was going to neighbors a little bit tracy. Nobody
- 55:49Speaker 3: was really going to Wandale when there was no value
- 55:52Speaker 3: and he was in that four K range. So I
- 55:53Speaker 3: do like that, but it just left you a little
- 55:56Speaker 3: thin going to chase, right, And that's where the snowflake
- 55:59Speaker 3: came from with with Ray Ray, even though it was correlated.
- 56:02Speaker 2: I do like that it was correlated and you use
- 56:03Speaker 2: those two together.
- 56:04Speaker 3: But just the chase play kind of led you into
- 56:07Speaker 3: having to land there, right, because usually you're gonna start
- 56:10Speaker 3: with I mean most people start with their stack, right,
- 56:13Speaker 3: what stack? Am I going to go with the run
- 56:15Speaker 3: back and then kind of filling around it, And when
- 56:18Speaker 3: you plug in.
- 56:19Speaker 2: And chase with a Chan Gibbs, Alan and more, you
- 56:24Speaker 2: kind of just or he didn't he didn't have more here,
- 56:26Speaker 2: he just went right, Caleb.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Went, Alan Gibbs, just he went Caleb Alan Gibbs.
- 56:31Speaker 2: Yeah, skinny, So yeah, yeah, I like that. So yeah.
- 56:34Speaker 3: Other than that, I mean pretty decent. I like the
- 56:36Speaker 3: Bills just the one off d right, you don't know
- 56:39Speaker 3: who it's going to be. I mean the second the
- 56:42Speaker 3: running back DST correlation gets scary with teams like the Bills,
- 56:46Speaker 3: right when you got running quarterbacks that can rush for
- 56:48Speaker 3: two three touchdowns themselves.
- 56:50Speaker 2: So I like that.
- 56:52Speaker 3: And then the chigakong Wu play one hundred dollars less
- 56:56Speaker 3: than Brenton Strange at way way less ownership there, So.
- 57:01Speaker 1: He's gonna be mad because like this is again, I
- 57:03Speaker 1: just look for this stuff, and this is this is
- 57:04Speaker 1: results oriented, but just looking at it from like you said,
- 57:06Speaker 1: the Chase thing, for sure, we've talked about a ton
- 57:08Speaker 1: of times, I personally don't like it. Again, it's that's
- 57:11Speaker 1: why the whole point you just brought up up, it's
- 57:12Speaker 1: not that I'm right, it's more of this is why
- 57:15Speaker 1: I don't like it. It forced in a secondary stack,
- 57:17Speaker 1: which I like Robinson as the leverage, so I love
- 57:21Speaker 1: keeping that against neighbors here, but I don't like that
- 57:24Speaker 1: it means Robinson, Shig and McLeod So just real quick
- 57:29Speaker 1: and example needs when you pull Chase, I actually want
- 57:33Speaker 1: to pull Chase and McLoud. I want to keep Wandale
- 57:37Speaker 1: because I really like Wandale there as a one off
- 57:39Speaker 1: piece and as a leverage to neighbors. To me, that's clean.
- 57:43Speaker 1: I want Chase out of there. I want McCloud out
- 57:45Speaker 1: of there. There's really nothing for McLoud. Like I get,
- 57:47Speaker 1: it's part of Penix and it's a way to pick
- 57:49Speaker 1: it up, but it's like when you have to go
- 57:50Speaker 1: to three punts. I don't love it. I didn't want
- 57:53Speaker 1: to change his lineup too much, but I thought, if
- 57:55Speaker 1: you're on Chig and you're not on Richardson. What would
- 57:59Speaker 1: happen if you just Row leave everything the same, take
- 58:02Speaker 1: out Chase McLeod, bring up one Dale and then plug
- 58:07Speaker 1: in this. He's gonna hate this. You plug in Jonathan Taylor,
- 58:11Speaker 1: which makes a ton of sense. He's a secondary stack
- 58:13Speaker 1: and you're not on the other spot. Do you know
- 58:15Speaker 1: what you land on exactly? Which is incredible because it's
- 58:18Speaker 1: also another pivot off of it's pivot and kind of leverage.
- 58:23Speaker 1: Kind of not because they both were popular, but you
- 58:25Speaker 1: land on Brian Thomas Junior and you score two hundred
- 58:29Speaker 1: and forty one point six, enough to win even the
- 58:31Speaker 1: twenty dollars MILLI Maker. So the good news, my man, Jake,
- 58:35Speaker 1: You're You're on the right track. You're building in a
- 58:37Speaker 1: sharper way. This makes a ton of sense. That is
- 58:40Speaker 1: obviously extremely results oriented. But I'm just saying the idea
- 58:44Speaker 1: of the Wandale leverage and not playing a guy like
- 58:46Speaker 1: Chase outside of it. Again, tons of sharp players play
- 58:49Speaker 1: Chase outside of the stack. It's not wrong. I'm saying
- 58:52Speaker 1: why I don't like it is because I think if
- 58:55Speaker 1: he has the forty point day, we often see Burrow
- 58:58Speaker 1: lineups get there. There's a chance he gets to forty
- 59:00Speaker 1: and Burrow still only has thirty and Caleb still beats him.
- 59:03Speaker 1: So it's not like it's the only way I'm saying,
- 59:05Speaker 1: it's what it does to your lineup. On top of
- 59:08Speaker 1: that factor, there's a factor that Burrow does outscore it heavily.
- 59:11Speaker 1: On top of the fact that when you move off
- 59:14Speaker 1: Chase and McLeod and just keep your leverage to Neighbors,
- 59:17Speaker 1: you can start looking at other combos. I'm pretty sure
- 59:19Speaker 1: a twov two like Strange would not have worked with
- 59:24Speaker 1: the Okonku there because then you would had too much
- 59:26Speaker 1: money at wide receivers. So if you're looking at like, okay,
- 59:29Speaker 1: I'm not on Richardson, let me play Jonathan Taylor, where
- 59:32Speaker 1: do I land? You would have been like, holy shit,
- 59:34Speaker 1: because you're not on Neighbors, You're on Wandale, You're not
- 59:39Speaker 1: on You're what would have been made You're oh yeah,
- 59:43Speaker 1: you're not on Strange, You're on Thomas Junior. So you've
- 59:47Speaker 1: pivoted off and leveraged the Jacksonville tight end who's super
- 59:51Speaker 1: popular for Thomas Junior, and Thomas Junior is also a
- 59:55Speaker 1: pivot to Neighbors, who you also have his leverage play
- 59:59Speaker 1: Bill into the lineup. So, I mean, I love the
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: build that you're on. I'm just saying, when you see
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: that stuff, that's what I'll spend a little bit more
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: time on how you can look through it. All right,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. GK. Pheiffer A rich
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: was his lineup. He got the Wandale leverage in there.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: He played the No Tillman, let me get Judy, he
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: got James Cook. I mean, there's a lot of leverage
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: pieces in this lineup, but I'll let you take it
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: away and it's talk to us about this one.
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going back to another secondary stack
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: on the last one. I mean, Bijon and Josh Downs
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: is the same as Jamar Chase and Raila Mclouds. Still correlated,
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: still in the exact same spots, right, Bijon and and
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: Josh Downs. You just land on a forty nine hundred
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: piece and I just threw Josh Downs in there to
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: be correlated with Jeg. But going into this one, James
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: Connor really good play. We already hit on him a ton.
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: I really liked that Wandell, that that Wandlle leverage there,
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: because I mean Wandal is like their Swiss Army knife
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: right hit over there too. I mean he just gets
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: all the ppa our points. So it it's the DraftKings
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: scoring the Saquon Barkley. You knew people were stopping at
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: Gibbs right on running back. That's as high as they
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: were going. So going up all the way to Barkley,
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: you can say what you want. I mean people are saying, oh,
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: he got there because Hurts. Well, I guess what he
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: got there in the first quarter. I mean he had
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: one hundred and ten yards and two touchdowns in the
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: first quarter before Hurts was even injured. Right, So Barkley
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: could have literally shattered the slate with like a fifty
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: spot yesterday.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: He didn't really do much the rest of the game,
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: but you knew nobody was getting up to him. I
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: mean not many people were going up because people were
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: stopping at Gibbs. H Chan, James Connor, We're kind of
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: as the highest people are going, or Chase Brown, right,
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: but even Chase Brown got held super in check and
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: he just leveraged direct leverage right off of Bijon as well.
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: If people are going up, they were clicking Bijon over
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: Saquon all day. So I like that a lot. The
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: Judy play I thought was a little thin because DTR right, no,
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: jamis Winston there. So the Judy play, in my opinion,
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: is a little thin, not results or anything that had
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: got four. But same thing with the Ray Ray I
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: was gonna bring up that last game, right, these quarterback switches, right,
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: Ray Ray was attached to Cousins, and it was the
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: nature of Cousins right, loving the check down, loving the
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: little dump off to Terray Ray new quarterback in their Pannix. Right,
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: he's got a can, he's gonna throw, He's gonna push
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: the fit pace. Same thing with DTR. DTR is terrible quarterback, right,
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: How does Judy get there? The long throws down the field,
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: jamis airing it out right, So I thought that was.
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: Pretty thin there. The James Cook Buffalo die, I really.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: Liked that a lot, just avoiding the whole New England
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: piece in general outside game in Buffalo. Buffalo really good team.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: So I like that correlation a lot. But yeah, I mean,
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: that's that's kind of what I have. And I know
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: the Donnie Mitchell play right attached to Richardson getting off
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: of Judy and going to like a downs avoids avoids
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: kind of the Donny Mitchell player. Donnie Mitchell play was
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: probably how can I still get a piece attached to
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson?
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: But have these other plays?
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: The roster construction forced you into a guy like that
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: when you're plugging in a higher priced Judy, you're plugging
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: in a Barkley, you're plugging in a Conner James Cook.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: You kind of land on that and you click a Donnae,
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: which I think was is pretty thin in general, But
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: Judy is what forced you into kind of clicking Donnie.
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: I would assume here, Yeah, and.
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: I think that was the Judy play is the tricky
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: one because again it can always work out. There was
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: a guy out all those factors, but you mentioned no
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: Jamis being a factor, not sure if they could push
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: him or whatnot. I was fine with Mitchell with Pierce out,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: and he's obviously attached to Richardson, so that one, to
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: me makes perfect sense. But like, you don't need one Dale,
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: You're you're not interested in Penix, You're not interested in Bijon,
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: You're playing Barkley instead. Like it really wasn't anything you
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: needed to set him up. I like him as a
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: leverage play and he's finding that instance. But this combo
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: pack here had to be close to something like what
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: for The one thing I'm saying for sure is let me.
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: Be he was sixty seven and Wondale was what forty one?
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: Wandal was forty one?
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: So what are we at? Ten eight?
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Ten eight? Yeah?
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: So ten eight, let's just do this real.
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: So you're at two fifty four hundred receivers, which puts
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: you on like Keenan Allen.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: It puts you in that really really good range.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: I know exactly what it is. I just had to
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: look it up. Yep, ten eight Keenan Allen, Jamison Williams,
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: you're not on Gibbs. My problem with this lineup is,
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: I mean, you're a ship and nation member as well,
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: which we love to see and I know you quite
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: well from over the years, but just saying it, you
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: skipped out on the Chicago Detroit game and it was
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: a target game with big totals on both sides, huge
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: on the stack ranking solid, talking about do you have
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: correlation yes, do you have leverage yes? Could you be
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: missing a piece to make it all work? And Judy
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: Wandale when you're not even on the Atlanta side, of
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: the game works out exactly to those other two guys.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: And that's another what so seventeen point two and we're
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: not gonna spend this much time, only got one more
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: that we're gonna go through anyway, but seventeen point two.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Keep seventeen point two in your mind. Nate's seventeen point
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: two and twenty nine minus seventeen point two is forty
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: three point nine points for two hundred and ten point
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: twenty four. And that's actually a fun way to do these.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: We haven't done these this way all season, where you're
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: kind of like seeing what it is again as it
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: results oriented, of course, but just looking at it, always
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: trying to take something away when we're reviewing it and
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: how can we apply it. You skipped out on one
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: of the best games of the slate. It's okay to
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: do that. That's not a bad thing. It's just saying
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: if looking at this lineup and thinking, okay, if I'm
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: gonna go off of Gibbs and I'm gonna move off
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: all this other stuff, but you're not even in on Atlanta.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: You're not in on Burrow or something that would make
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: these things move. They fit, they work, They had injury
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: situations and leverage spots and things like that. But it
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: easily could have just been get Jamison Williams and Keenan
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Allen and have a piece of that other game, and
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: then the rest of it all really fits and makes
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: perfect sense. And the fact you weren't on Atlanta New
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: York Giants would also make even more sense for Barkley
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: instead of most had Robinson there. And anyway, two hundred
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: and ten points, just a note on that, all right,
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: the last one we got here, I think I'm gonna
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: go to this one spirit of time, just because this
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: one here is a twenty seven dollars entry in a
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: two hundred and seven person field, said finished forty one. Basically, men,
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: cash thoughts on the lineup and have a look at
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: this one, Naed's it looks a little bit, you know,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: cleaner than some of the stuff we looked at, like
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: as far as that, but it's also a lot of
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: higher own plays just in general. It's only a two
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: hundred and seven person fields. I'll let you take it away.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: Yeah, So going in on the Kaleb stuff, I like that. No, okay,
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: Laporter runback, so I did like that. I like that
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: attacking that good target game. We talk about how can
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: you get different within a target game something like that, right,
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: because you know ninety nine.
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: Percent of people that are going in on that game
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: have Gibbs right as the runback.
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: So how do you get different You're thrown at Jameson
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: Williams or you're thrown at Laporta right to hopefully.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Eat some of Gibbs lunch. So I did like that there.
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: The Malik Washington looks like a one off right, not
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: attached to anyone else.
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: Don't love that.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: A Ton I liked him as kind of a correlation
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: with either like a kiddo or a d ball what
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: just a nature of of kind of landing there.
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: The T Higgins we like one off but not.
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I mean his price is even coming
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: up too though, But yeah, I mean I don't don't
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: hate that. The James Connor Bejon really good, really good options.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: Love those two. A Ton Colts defense fine. Jacobe Myers
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: kind of just as one off it I think is
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: fine too. Can't be two results oriented. I mean, it
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: is a lot of higher ownership. But again it's a
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: smaller field. So going back to building for your field size,
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: you can you can get away with more of this chalk,
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: if you will, in a smaller field.
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: So definitely for the most part, tailored his roster to
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: the field that he's playing.
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: So, Dakota out there, I'm sure you've listened to these
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: shows all season long that you're following the tweets and
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: replying there, so at least you're kind of building your
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: lineup for the most part.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: To the field size that you're playing. So I do
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: like that a lot.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: But I just think the Malik Washington did, Kobe Meyer,
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: Higgott all like, its just like one offs out there.
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: I feel like a little thin because in these smaller
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: fields you can over correlate more. In my opinion, I
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: learned that from from tampball, right, and the smaller field
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: stuff over correlating actually does better for the most part
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: then kind of that large field stuff where there's more variance, Right,
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: there's higher entries, there's the more one offs things like that.
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: But outside of that, I mean, it's it was all
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: solid plays on the field going in yesterday.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: I just didn't didn't get there.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to see on this one if
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: there was other stuff, but just to like, if he
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: goes to Gibbs and more he ends up around you know,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, so again you weren't getting there. But just
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: to note, like the flip on yours, Couna've done this
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: for the rest, I'll do it for yours. Was like,
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: if you go to take out Higgins and you know,
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: go to d More and then take out Myers and
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: go to Gibbs and just run the similar stack to
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: everybody else, your ownership doesn't you know, it's pretty similar
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: goes up because of Gibbs. Sure, but it's you know,
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: and Henry's in there and all that. But just for
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: the smaller field it would have played. It projected about
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: six points better and it's still you know a little
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: bit more over correlated, like you said, but you're using
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: the good spots. One thing I like about what you're
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: doing here is when you're going to Williams and Alan,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: you're not on DJ Moore. You're flipping it with the
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: Porta instead of Gibbs. I love that. That's fine, And
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: I like the Higgins one off better than some of
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: the other ones, and I'm fine with the Obviously Washington
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: was a cheap value play, but that's one thing I
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: don't really love. The cheap value one off as a
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: one or sorry, the cheap value play as a one off,
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: because then everybody sort of has the similar one.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I get attached more to like a d ball,
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: right or something like that.
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: Not results already said, right, even if Deebo would have
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: scored like four points yesterday, I still liked him more
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: correlated to that, because you know, Washington is the most
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: popular value going into the slate yesterday. So how do
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: you cut into that? You go to a guy that
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: nobody's playing, right, or like a Kiddle.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: You mentioned Kittle even I think on the show here,
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: so we talked about like Patrick Taylor with that little
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: secondary and again done, that's why the thought results orry
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: it didn't work out at all, But just saying that
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: would be a way to cut into it. But yeah,
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: if you did do a little bit different here. The
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: other thing I will say is like, again, I'm all
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: for flipping the bill. That's why this is not a negative.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: Just take it for what it's worth. But I also think,
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: like yesterday was you know, really nice field for three
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: running backs, right, we had a ton of those guys
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: that we like. It wasn't overall a ton of good
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: like the pool was smaller I thought this week. I
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: talked about this in the Slate planet ship in Nation.
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: I thought there was less running backs to work with overall,
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: but I thought what we had to work with was
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: very strong, right There was even bills I did. I
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: didn't show it on here to talk about it, but
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: like with a a rich and a couple Indie guys
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: with a chig run back to allow me to get
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: Gibbs as my third running back, I had a lineup
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: that did really well in The Million Maker with like Bijon,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: Barkley and Gibbs and then a whole stack that made
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: sense for if Anthony Richardson hit his ceiling and it
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: was very close up there. That was the one that
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: people were texting me about those you know winning the
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: Millie at one hundred and ninety four or something, and
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: it lost some points at the end, but the point being,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: you know, didn't quite get there. But the note of
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: like being in the right spots and thinking of the
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: slate differently while going to a fourth wide receiver was
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: definitely still different and obviously more than okay. I thought
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: yesterday was a nice day to mix around these three
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: running backs and if you had a had Bijon Connor
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: and Gibbs. You were in almost all the right places
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: and then we're able to move it around. That only
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: would have got you to like one hundred and eighty one.
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: Yeah, another thing too, Jacoby one hundred dollars more than
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: Dj Moore when you already got Caleb Williams, and you know,
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: Jacoby's picking up ownership and just getting a piece of
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: the afternoon Just to get a piece, right, I think
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: is a little thin too, right in that spot, just
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: throw them attached to your quarterback.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: How does Caleb Williams get there?
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: He does that rushing upside, But for the most part,
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: you know, his target tree is super condensed. It's Keenan Allen,
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: it's Roma Douonza, and it's DJ Moore. So if he's
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: getting his ceiling on an eleven games slate, it's likely that,
- 1:11:58Speaker 3: at least for the most part, two guys are probably
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: going to be needed to push him there. Not always right,
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: but you already know it's not like Jacoby Myers is
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: a leverage piece. You know, he's one of the most
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: popular guys going in, especially in the afternoon slate. So
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: it goes back to the fomo, right, I struggle with
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: this a lot in NHL and different things, right, always
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: wanting a piece of that late game right to push
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: you up the leaderboards. Right, it's not a guarantee, it's
- 1:12:25Speaker 3: just kind of a it's kind of just a misconception,
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: I think in a lot of people's minds is because
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: they just hate to be done and then have other
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: people kind of chasing them down.
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: Right, but still sweat.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: That's exactly you nailed it there. People hate the anti
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: sweat and it's basketball too. Write NBA dfs like, oh, I.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Always they always want the late night hammer.
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: They always want that because they don't want to be
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: four hours right of games that they have nothing left
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: and they're just sitting there waiting for people to.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: Chase them down. Right. The whole piece is they still
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: have to chase you down to get there. Right, You're
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: already there, Right, you're there.
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing in sports betting, when nobody
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: wants to be on all these and prop parlays, nobody
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: ever takes the unders. You're allowed to take oners, you're
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: allowed to overstack early and just let it sit there.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: You don't need so oh, but I always see it
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: happen no, you don't. You just remember when you see it.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: It's like that's part of it, right. They're never thinking
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: about the times. I've had plenty of times where I've
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: had to anti sweat, especially in NBA, and it worked
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: out just fine in my favor, and you're loving it
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: because you're like, holy shit, this is getting close. And
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: then that person gets checked out. It's a blow. Just
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: sit them, sit them. And then finally, with four minutes left,
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: they bring in the backups and you know you've won
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: because there's no sweat behind you anymore. And that's a
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: different sweat for sure, but it happens, and it's not differ.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: In an NFL. You can get there with an early
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: only lineup and not need someone. But again, some of
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: these slates do have really good afternoon games. So I
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: don't know the overall math on the sample size. I
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: just know it most certainly is possible or at least
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: limited and stuff like that. But I think in this one,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: who knows they're building it in just for that, But
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: of no, you don't have to build it in. So
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: great call out, nieds anything else from you man before
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: we get out of here. This final takedown breakdown of
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: the season.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: Oh, just going back to the PGA content out there.
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: If you guys aren't PGA people, it's one of our
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: best sports over here at the Nation. And every single
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: weekend there's an event. You have at least five slates
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: to play. You have the main slate and four showdowns
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: that come with it, and our showdown. I'll put our
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- 1:14:18Speaker 3: even have showdown content or they just regurgitate the main
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: slate content over our team over here at Grinds. The
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- 1:14:33Speaker 3: It's a fun sweat. Not a lot of people love
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- 1:14:39Speaker 3: entries tied out for four days, play the showdowns, right,
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: massive contest out there, especially for the majors, but even
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: the non majors out there, right, there's tons of tons
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: of money to be made in the PGA streets and
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: get in there and you get the rest of the NFL,
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: all the playoffs, which are very profitable, all these short
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: slates for no additional cost.
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: Yeah, get out the tools to start things off. That's
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- 1:15:03Speaker 1: That's how we're getting to it, Tummer, knowing what others
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- 1:15:20Speaker 1: If you get the deal with ship Demizer, you get
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- 1:15:29Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, Thank you so much for watching this
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: throughout the season. We'll be back next year. Neids and
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