Latest / Football Doesn't Lie / Football Doesn't Lie: Week 2 and How Quickly Things Change!

Transcript

Football Doesn't Lie: Week 2 and How Quickly Things Change! · Football Doesn't Lie

0:04
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Football Doesn't Lie. I'm Catherine Zazzora, joined
0:08
Speaker 1: by Hall of Fame coach Bill Parcells. How are we doing, Bill?
0:12
Speaker 2: We're doing very well, Catherine, and I look forward to
0:14
Speaker 2: the continuance of this weekly show. And I got a
0:19
Speaker 2: lot of compliments, but most of them were for you.
0:22
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take it. I'll take it. If this is
0:25
Speaker 1: your first time tuning in, guys, we'll be here every
0:28
Speaker 1: Thursday to talk about the NFL with Bill's perspective. So
0:32
Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about the game of football,
0:34
Speaker 1: subscribe and tune in every week. But let's just get
0:39
Speaker 1: right into this episode. Bill, week two of the NFL
0:42
Speaker 1: season is in the books. What's your take on the
0:44
Speaker 1: league right now?
0:46
Speaker 2: Well, it's a little early, but, you know, what kind
0:50
Speaker 2: of got my attention was the... instantaneous change of opinion
0:58
Speaker 2: of franchises, and it happens just in one week. Last
1:01
Speaker 2: week at this time, we're lauding the Bears, 59 points.
1:06
Speaker 2: The offense of the future, Ben Johnson, tremendous coach, and
1:11
Speaker 2: he is. But this week, they only managed to score
1:14
Speaker 2: three points, where one touchdown more would have won the
1:17
Speaker 2: game for them. And with the Bears and the Commanders
1:24
Speaker 2: And the Giants, what appeared to be the beginning of
1:28
Speaker 2: a great season, a lot of enthusiasm, win the first game,
1:32
Speaker 2: now lose the second game. And also, all three teams
1:37
Speaker 2: lost their starting quarterback.
1:40
Speaker 1: So quite the reversal of fortune then.
1:43
Speaker 2: Big reversal of fortune. And Catherine, it only took seven
1:46
Speaker 2: days to complete it.
1:48
Speaker 1: Now, how do you bounce back from that?
1:51
Speaker 2: Well... You know, as coaches and as organizations, you always
1:57
Speaker 2: have to have the ability to get on to the
1:59
Speaker 2: next thing immediately. So you can't dwell and lament on
2:03
Speaker 2: the fact of what the circumstances were compared to what
2:07
Speaker 2: they are now. You just have to go forward because
2:10
Speaker 2: in six days you've got another game. And in the
2:14
Speaker 2: case of one of these teams, they're playing Thursday night,
2:18
Speaker 2: so they only have a couple days, and it's... You
2:22
Speaker 2: just can't dwell on the negative. You just got to
2:24
Speaker 2: get back to the next task at hand.
2:27
Speaker 1: So what's the energy like come Monday morning in the
2:29
Speaker 1: office after this?
2:31
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, the secretaries are afraid to talk
2:34
Speaker 2: to you because they know they're going to get those
2:36
Speaker 2: short one-word answers and a coach shouldn't be talked to
2:39
Speaker 2: on Mondays anyway. So... They're very quiet. Everybody's quiet. And
2:45
Speaker 2: all eyes are on you because the organization now is
2:49
Speaker 2: a little down and out and everybody's wondering what you're
2:53
Speaker 2: going to do about it.
2:54
Speaker 1: Is that a common question? So what are we doing now?
2:56
Speaker 1: What are we doing now?
2:58
Speaker 2: Well, yes, it is. But they're not too quick to
3:02
Speaker 2: engage in conversation when things are going bad. They're more reticent,
3:08
Speaker 2: laid back and quiet and And they're just waiting to
3:13
Speaker 2: see what you decide to do next. All right.
3:16
Speaker 1: So noted. If ever you run into a coach after
3:19
Speaker 1: something like this, give them some space. Maybe don't approach them.
3:23
Speaker 2: Well.
3:23
Speaker 1: Breathing room.
3:25
Speaker 2: Listen, it's a difficult time. But as I said, you
3:29
Speaker 2: have to get on to the next task because it's
3:31
Speaker 2: coming very shortly. And you have to prepare your team
3:34
Speaker 2: and get ready under the circumstances that currently exist. And
3:39
Speaker 2: you can't wish it was some way different. You just
3:42
Speaker 2: have to go with what you got and you got
3:45
Speaker 2: to be ready very soon.
3:46
Speaker 1: So talking about being ready and switching it to a
3:50
Speaker 1: more positive thing, you know, my favorite game to watch
3:54
Speaker 1: on Sunday was definitely the Eagles versus the Titans. I
3:58
Speaker 1: have to say, especially in the fourth, I was hooked
4:00
Speaker 1: on the television. The announcers were going crazy. The The
4:04
Speaker 1: plays were amazing, but you don't really watch football the
4:08
Speaker 1: same way that I do. You watch because you have
4:11
Speaker 1: rooting interest for your guys. Who are you rooting the
4:13
Speaker 1: most for?
4:15
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have three of my former coaching
4:18
Speaker 2: associates that are head coaches now. Todd Bowles at Tampa
4:22
Speaker 2: and Sean Payton at the Rams. And, of course, I
4:24
Speaker 2: still follow.
4:25
Speaker 1: At the Broncos.
4:25
Speaker 2: At the Broncos, I mean. And I still follow Bill Belichick.
4:29
Speaker 2: Of course, he's coaching in college. It's a different venue,
4:32
Speaker 2: but I still watch. So I'm always interested to see
4:35
Speaker 2: how they're doing, what strategies they're employing. And I usually
4:40
Speaker 2: talk to Sean, you know, at least once a week.
4:44
Speaker 2: And we talk about the game and things like that.
4:47
Speaker 2: Maybe Todd every couple weeks and just try to. kind
4:51
Speaker 2: of voice your opinion. And they're calling because they know
4:55
Speaker 2: you understand. And coaches need somebody to vent to once
5:00
Speaker 2: in a while. Once in a while, I'm the recipient
5:02
Speaker 2: of that.
5:02
Speaker 1: And I'm sure also some players like Jacoby Bursette from
5:06
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. He's one of the guys.
5:07
Speaker 2: Well, Jacoby is a very close personal friend, as you know.
5:11
Speaker 2: And last week he told me we're just 1-0. Well,
5:16
Speaker 2: this week they're 1-1. So it's a different story. You've
5:19
Speaker 2: got to bounce back. You can't lament the situation. You
5:23
Speaker 2: just have to deal with it and get on to
5:25
Speaker 2: the next task. And most teams and coaches have the
5:28
Speaker 2: ability to do that.
5:29
Speaker 1: Okay, so not to put you on the spot, but
5:31
Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on the spot. Which one
5:33
Speaker 1: of all those did you think performed best this week?
5:36
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, I was happy that the Broncos won the game.
5:39
Speaker 2: That was a tough game. It's on the road. And
5:42
Speaker 2: they played well. Their quarterback played well. And they're back
5:46
Speaker 2: on track.
5:47
Speaker 1: Good. I love that. Actually, talking about coaches, you had
5:52
Speaker 1: a shout out on Sunday Night Football. I don't know
5:55
Speaker 1: if you caught that or not, but just before the
5:57
Speaker 1: halftime and the Colts punter, the punt returner chose to
6:02
Speaker 1: let the ball bounce and the Chiefs ended up pinning
6:05
Speaker 1: the Colts deep. Now, the broadcaster, Chris Collinsworth, he said
6:08
Speaker 1: that you might have some thoughts on a punt returner
6:11
Speaker 1: not catching the punt.
6:13
Speaker 2: Well, the irony of the whole thing is my former
6:16
Speaker 2: punt returner, Phil McConkie, who was with me for several years,
6:20
Speaker 2: was the first to take note of that. And he
6:23
Speaker 2: texted me very quickly and he said, Collinsworth called you
6:27
Speaker 2: out on the radio. And I said, well... You know,
6:30
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to let the ball hit the ground, McConkie.
6:33
Speaker 2: You sprint to it, get set, catch it, and give
6:35
Speaker 2: me 15 yards.
6:37
Speaker 1: There you go. There's your answer, Chris. I like that. Now,
6:43
Speaker 1: moving back, because unfortunately some fan bases actually, they have
6:48
Speaker 1: not had a favorite game to watch yet because 18s
6:51
Speaker 1: right now are 0-2 after two weeks. You've made the
6:56
Speaker 1: playoffs yourself when you're coaching from an 0-2 start multiple times.
7:01
Speaker 1: How can teams avoid a bad start becoming kind of
7:03
Speaker 1: a death sentence for the rest of the season?
7:06
Speaker 2: Well, you know, when you communicate routine with your team
7:12
Speaker 2: as a coach, you sometimes inquire rather than make a statement.
7:19
Speaker 2: You just inquire to them. And you say, is this
7:24
Speaker 2: what we are? Is this what we're going to be?
7:27
Speaker 2: Is this how the season's going to go? Are we
7:30
Speaker 2: going to be this kind of team, just a middle-of-the-pack,
7:35
Speaker 2: nondescript team that doesn't make the playoffs? Or we still have,
7:42
Speaker 2: in my case, there was 14 games to go. Now
7:44
Speaker 2: there's 16 more games to go. We still have plenty
7:47
Speaker 2: of time to alter the course of our season But
7:53
Speaker 2: you have to emphasize what are the things that we
7:56
Speaker 2: must concentrate on right now that are causing us to
8:00
Speaker 2: lose these games. And we need to put the emphasis
8:04
Speaker 2: in that area because until we fix that, our expectations
8:10
Speaker 2: can't change. Once we fix that, they will.
8:14
Speaker 1: Now, what if you turn around from like, let's say
8:16
Speaker 1: you get to like 0-4 and 0-5, but then you
8:19
Speaker 1: turn it around and you make it pretty far, if
8:21
Speaker 1: not to the playoffs, would you be considered the underdog
8:23
Speaker 1: at that point?
8:25
Speaker 2: Well, when you start 0-4, you know, the prognosticators will
8:30
Speaker 2: tell you that there's not a real good chance to
8:32
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. The percentages tell you that. But as
8:36
Speaker 2: a coach, you... the team teaches itself what it is,
8:41
Speaker 2: but part of that is how they view your opinion.
8:45
Speaker 2: And if you can convey an opinion of confidence to them,
8:50
Speaker 2: and it's not just bravado, it's not just talk, it's
8:53
Speaker 2: genuine confidence. Listen, we can do these things if we
8:58
Speaker 2: just correct the few things that we're currently doing that
9:02
Speaker 2: are causing us to lose. So when we get to practice,
9:06
Speaker 2: let's put the the strictest emphasis on those things and
9:12
Speaker 2: try to get those things corrected this week so that
9:15
Speaker 2: they don't cause us to lose next week. And if
9:18
Speaker 2: we do that, we'll be back on track.
9:20
Speaker 1: Now, actually, there was a lot of tension and I'm
9:25
Speaker 1: loving learning about football, but I grew up with hockey
9:27
Speaker 1: and in hockey, is it really a hockey game if
9:29
Speaker 1: there isn't a fight or a throw down? But I
9:32
Speaker 1: saw some like physical shoving and stuff this week, more
9:35
Speaker 1: so than I did in week one. I strongly believe that,
9:41
Speaker 1: or I at least, I shouldn't say strongly believe, I
9:44
Speaker 1: suspect it's not good etiquette when it comes to football.
9:47
Speaker 1: Like it's not really been a physical game besides, I
9:51
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that, besides the actual tackling. Once the play
9:55
Speaker 1: is over, that physical altercation should stop, right?
9:59
Speaker 2: Well, it should. And you try to warn your players.
10:02
Speaker 2: You know, don't be the reactor. Don't be the one
10:06
Speaker 2: that reacts to a circumstance that irritates you. Maintain your poise.
10:12
Speaker 2: Get on to the next play. You've got a job
10:15
Speaker 2: to do. And don't let these ancillary issues, which they're
10:19
Speaker 2: just very temporary, usually 10 or 15 seconds in duration,
10:24
Speaker 2: don't let them distract you from the task at hand.
10:28
Speaker 2: We have a job to do. Let's keep those antics
10:32
Speaker 2: out of it.
10:33
Speaker 1: Now, say one of your players is, you know, starting
10:36
Speaker 1: something after the play's done. Is that something, do you
10:39
Speaker 1: intervene as a coach? Do you step in and be like.
10:41
Speaker 2: Hey, brother? Well, sometimes it's a distance away from you,
10:45
Speaker 2: so you can't immediately intervene. But, you know, we try
10:50
Speaker 2: to teach our players that you've got to maintain poise,
10:55
Speaker 2: you've got to maintain control, and you've got to maintain
10:58
Speaker 2: a good sense of what we're trying to do here.
11:01
Speaker 2: And if that gets away from you, you're distracted. And
11:04
Speaker 2: once you're distracted, you're not concentrating properly on your job.
11:08
Speaker 2: So let's get back to the task at hand. Let's
11:11
Speaker 2: eliminate these ancillary little issues and antics that we all
11:16
Speaker 2: sometimes experience. And let's remember what we're here for.
11:20
Speaker 1: All right. So fighting in hockey, good. Fighting in football, bad. Noted.
11:25
Speaker 1: But speaking of hockey, we did see a hat trick
11:28
Speaker 1: of sorts on Sunday. Jackson Smith and Jigba. He had
11:32
Speaker 1: three touchdown catches, and this guy led the league in
11:35
Speaker 1: receiving yards last year and was Offensive Player of the Year,
11:38
Speaker 1: so his success should come as no surprise. But my
11:41
Speaker 1: question is, how does a guy with that reputation continue
11:44
Speaker 1: to be so productive throughout the season?
11:47
Speaker 2: You know, in my experience, I've encountered several receivers like
11:52
Speaker 2: that that were opponents. Randy Moss, a guy named Roy
11:55
Speaker 2: Green that used to play for the Cardinals. He was
11:58
Speaker 2: a constant thorn in my side. And, in fact, we
12:01
Speaker 2: had always a little dialogue and warm-up. He used to
12:05
Speaker 2: say to me, Bill, what do you got for me today?
12:07
Speaker 2: I said, well, Roy, we're either rolling into you with
12:10
Speaker 2: the zone or we're going to be putting two guys
12:12
Speaker 2: on you on the man-to-man, so you're not going to
12:14
Speaker 2: get to do much today. And he'd just shake his head,
12:16
Speaker 2: come on, Bill, give me a break.
12:19
Speaker 1: That's so obviously the other team is specifically tasked to
12:24
Speaker 1: slowing them down.
12:25
Speaker 2: Well, listen, you're trying to limit their assets, and sometimes—
12:30
Speaker 2: One man can't do it. Sometimes you have to double
12:32
Speaker 2: cover a receiver in order to take him out of
12:35
Speaker 2: the play. And so whatever you need to do to
12:39
Speaker 2: restrict that receiver's ability to perform against you, you've got
12:42
Speaker 2: to take that action. Yeah.
12:44
Speaker 1: So another thing that I saw that stood out to
12:47
Speaker 1: me across the board in week two is the different
12:49
Speaker 1: ways that we saw the quarterbacks have success. For instance,
12:53
Speaker 1: the Titans quarterback, Cam Ward, he jumped over an Eagles player.
12:57
Speaker 1: Some of these guys have springs in their legs, but
13:00
Speaker 1: some are more like statues. Obviously, there's no two quarterbacks
13:04
Speaker 1: that are exactly the same, but there's got to be
13:06
Speaker 1: some universal truth, you know, some critical factors for these positions.
13:11
Speaker 2: Well, yes. That's a very good question, Catherine. And the
13:15
Speaker 2: critical factors for a quarterback are in this order. First, accuracy.
13:23
Speaker 2: Can he hit what he's throwing at? If he can't
13:26
Speaker 2: do that, he's not going to perform at a very
13:29
Speaker 2: good level. Two, arm strength. He has to have the
13:33
Speaker 2: ability to put the ball in all quadrants of the field,
13:38
Speaker 2: down the field, intermediate, short. And when you're throwing shorter passes,
13:44
Speaker 2: you have to do it with touch strength. and pace.
13:48
Speaker 2: You can't just rifle the ball at a guy six
13:50
Speaker 2: yards away from you, so you have a little touch
13:53
Speaker 2: and a little pace on the pass, where when you're
13:55
Speaker 2: throwing downfield or a little deeper in the quadrants, then
13:59
Speaker 2: you accelerate and try to put a little more speed
14:02
Speaker 2: on the ball. But the other thing is the quarterback's
14:07
Speaker 2: ability to process and his decision-making. It has to be
14:12
Speaker 2: on point. And, you know, sometimes you see inadvertent throws
14:18
Speaker 2: or indiscriminate throws where the quarterback thought he could do
14:22
Speaker 2: something that he really couldn't do or the chances of
14:26
Speaker 2: him being successful doing it were not very well. And
14:29
Speaker 2: then when they come over there, you just got to
14:31
Speaker 2: ask him, hey, what did you see on that play
14:33
Speaker 2: that I didn't see? Because the choice you made was
14:36
Speaker 2: not the right one. I want to know what your
14:39
Speaker 2: thought process was.
14:53
Speaker 1: So quarterbacks, three critical factors. You have accuracy and strength.
14:58
Speaker 2: Arm strength.
14:59
Speaker 1: Arm strength. And then also the ability to assess the
15:03
Speaker 1: situation quickly.
15:04
Speaker 2: Processing. Now, it's nice if the quarterback has a degree
15:10
Speaker 2: of being elusive, too, because then... His athletic ability allows
15:15
Speaker 2: him to extend plays by escaping from the rush and
15:18
Speaker 2: getting out of the pocket and making throws on the
15:21
Speaker 2: run from other positions on the field. But that's not
15:25
Speaker 2: usually the general design. We want the quarterback back, well-protected,
15:29
Speaker 2: set his feet, throw accurately at target.
15:32
Speaker 1: Now, they also have to be a leader. Do you
15:34
Speaker 1: look like when you're looking at quarterbacks, do you look
15:36
Speaker 1: at their personality? Is there something that stands out that's like, OK, yes,
15:39
Speaker 1: they've got the three critical factors, but they can also
15:43
Speaker 1: lead this team and get everybody into it and encourage
15:46
Speaker 1: and motivate?
15:47
Speaker 2: Well. The quarterback's voice offensively is the voice that the
15:52
Speaker 2: other 10 players hear when they're in the huddle. So
15:55
Speaker 2: how the quarterback approaches the situation and how he makes
15:59
Speaker 2: the play call or the formation call or the things
16:03
Speaker 2: he's directed to do prior to the play, the kind
16:06
Speaker 2: of attitude he shows toward those other 10 players can
16:11
Speaker 2: have an effect. And if it's positive and demanding and
16:14
Speaker 2: let's go and here it is and get ready for
16:17
Speaker 2: this and maybe a little note to say, stay alert
16:22
Speaker 2: on this one, Bobby. I might be, you know, just
16:25
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. It's very helpful. Good.
16:29
Speaker 1: Actually talking about quarterbacks, a current quarterback, Jalen Hurts with
16:32
Speaker 1: the Eagles. He, I mean, his stats are pretty good.
16:35
Speaker 1: He threw two interceptions, his starting running back. Barkley, also
16:41
Speaker 1: known as a bell cow, running back, went out.
16:44
Speaker 2: Oh, you're getting all the terms, Catherine. Bell cow. I'm trying.
16:48
Speaker 2: That means a featured back, okay? He's just the most
16:50
Speaker 2: important back.
16:52
Speaker 1: But he's out the majority of the time, but he
16:54
Speaker 1: still led the game, winning drive to seal the victory.
16:57
Speaker 1: So does he hit critical factors for you?
17:01
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Now, this guy's an experienced quarterback in the league.
17:05
Speaker 2: I've seen him frequently. Here's his background. He won in
17:12
Speaker 2: high school. He won in college. And he's winning in
17:15
Speaker 2: the pros. And he's doing a good job with his team.
17:19
Speaker 2: He's a good team leader. The players believe in him.
17:22
Speaker 2: Philadelphia has had a lot of success with him and
17:26
Speaker 2: probably will continue to do so if they can keep
17:30
Speaker 2: him physically up to par.
17:32
Speaker 1: All right. So another one to keep an eye on then.
17:35
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Definitely. We'll watch it. But, you know. At Philadelphia,
17:39
Speaker 2: that's a little hard for me to root for. You know,
17:41
Speaker 2: that's one of my fiercest rivals now, so you just,
17:45
Speaker 2: you know.
17:46
Speaker 1: We'll keep it hush-hush for now, then.
17:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a degree of respect, but rooting interest, I
17:52
Speaker 2: usually can't do that with them.
17:53
Speaker 1: I got you. Well, I've also heard it said that
17:56
Speaker 1: the offensive line is the most important factor to a
17:59
Speaker 1: quarterback's success. What are the critical factors for an offensive lineman?
18:05
Speaker 2: Well, Catherine, nowadays it's— Very simple. The average offensive tackle,
18:12
Speaker 2: his measurements are 6'6, 320 pounds. Really? So don't bring
18:18
Speaker 2: me a guy that weighs 290 because he's 30 pounds underweight.
18:22
Speaker 2: You want the height. You want the size. You want
18:25
Speaker 2: to have the strength. And the offensive linemen also have
18:31
Speaker 2: to have a degree of quickness to that allows them
18:34
Speaker 2: to get into position to block the guy they're supposed
18:37
Speaker 2: to block. That size and strength is all very good.
18:41
Speaker 2: But if you can't get to the guy, you can't
18:44
Speaker 2: use it. So quickness is also important for an offensive lineman.
18:48
Speaker 2: So those are the three critical factors. Size, strength, quickness
18:52
Speaker 2: for offensive linemen.
18:54
Speaker 1: I want to keep going with these critical factors, but
18:56
Speaker 1: I feel like there's too many positions to cover. So
18:58
Speaker 1: maybe we'll cover some more on another episode. But I
19:02
Speaker 1: want to talk about the traits a player needs to
19:05
Speaker 1: be great offensive lineman. What are other specific examples when
19:10
Speaker 1: it comes to an offensive lineman? Because I'm curious what
19:13
Speaker 1: you think about the Browns situation.
19:16
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Browns have been a beaten down
19:18
Speaker 2: franchise for a while. And they haven't had a lot
19:22
Speaker 2: of success, but they came out. you know, pretty good. Yeah.
19:28
Speaker 1: Well, so good. I mean, I don't know if this
19:30
Speaker 1: has anything to do with it, but they overhauled their
19:32
Speaker 1: entire offensive line from 2025.
19:34
Speaker 2: You know, Catherine, it's just like the food in your pantry.
19:39
Speaker 2: If it doesn't taste good, you're probably going to change it.
19:42
Speaker 2: So you're getting it out of there and you're going
19:44
Speaker 2: to get some food in there you like. Well, it's
19:47
Speaker 2: the same with offensive linemen. If they can't get the
19:49
Speaker 2: job done, you have to make a change. And they
19:52
Speaker 2: call it an overhaul. And sometimes it takes time to
19:56
Speaker 2: get that unit working cohesively. And other times you just
20:01
Speaker 2: get the right guys together. They immediately communicate well and
20:06
Speaker 2: they hit the ground running. and the performance improves right away.
20:10
Speaker 2: So overhaul is a big word because that represents a
20:15
Speaker 2: major transition in more than one position. So there's five
20:20
Speaker 2: of the offensive linemen. If you're changing three or four
20:23
Speaker 2: of them, that's a major transition.
20:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, so who goes into deciding if it's an overhaul?
20:29
Speaker 1: Because sometimes they say one person ruins it for the
20:32
Speaker 1: rest of them, but in this case, all of them
20:34
Speaker 1: apparently were not performing, so hence the overhaul. Is it
20:37
Speaker 1: the head coach that makes that decision? Is he huddling?
20:39
Speaker 2: It depends on how the structure is in the organization.
20:43
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the head coach. Uh, sometimes it's the general
20:46
Speaker 2: manager and obviously the owner is going to have something
20:50
Speaker 2: to say. And, you know, usually you discuss those things, uh,
20:55
Speaker 2: as a group and, and make decisions going forward that
21:00
Speaker 2: can kind of, if you can kind of come to
21:02
Speaker 2: some consensus on how you want to approach it. And, uh,
21:05
Speaker 2: Then you make the changes, and everybody understands there's going
21:09
Speaker 2: to be questions with that. But when you have to
21:12
Speaker 2: make wholesale changes, that's when the problem comes because it's
21:17
Speaker 2: a lot of guys. It's a lot of different players.
21:20
Speaker 2: It's a new system. Sometimes it can be a little
21:23
Speaker 2: chaotic for a while.
21:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Deshaun Watson was sacked five times in week
21:26
Speaker 1: one but just twice in week two. So it looks
21:28
Speaker 1: like it's getting better, but it was a slower start.
21:32
Speaker 1: So it'll be good to keep.
21:33
Speaker 2: An eye on them.
21:34
Speaker 1: But speaking of the Browns, they were involved in one
21:37
Speaker 1: of the weirdest situations of week two. There was a
21:41
Speaker 1: multi-hour weather delay. We're talking, was it in the fourth quarter?
21:44
Speaker 1: It was like three hours.
21:46
Speaker 2: Yes.
21:46
Speaker 1: That was wild. And then they were playing against the
21:48
Speaker 1: Buccaneers in Tampa Bay. But the lightning and all that
21:53
Speaker 1: really affected them. How do you prepare a team to
21:55
Speaker 1: play in the elements?
21:58
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that's a very good question. To
22:01
Speaker 2: play in the elements usually consists of Sloppy conditions, bad surface,
22:07
Speaker 2: say the grass, sods loose, players are slipping. You have
22:11
Speaker 2: to have the right cleats on your shoes. You have
22:13
Speaker 2: to understand. What gives you the best chance to keep
22:17
Speaker 2: your balance, to stay on your feet? And sometimes players
22:21
Speaker 2: have to experiment in warm-ups with a couple of different
22:24
Speaker 2: pair of shoes to see what's working the best that day. Yeah,
22:27
Speaker 2: they might change shoes in warm-ups or when they come
22:30
Speaker 2: in from pregame warm-ups and switch to a different pair
22:34
Speaker 2: of shoes. So shoes are very, very important. And, you know, everything...
22:40
Speaker 2: equipment wise is usually left to the player. And, you know,
22:46
Speaker 2: you want to make them comfortable. You want them to
22:47
Speaker 2: feel good about how he's going about to approach this game.
22:53
Speaker 2: But the elements are something that you can't predict. So
23:00
Speaker 2: I know I used to have what they call a
23:03
Speaker 2: wet ball day. So some just, Someday during the week,
23:08
Speaker 2: not every week, but once in a while, we'd dip
23:12
Speaker 2: the balls in water and put little soapy.
23:15
Speaker 1: Oh, that's cheeky.
23:16
Speaker 2: You guys had it so? Well, I don't know what
23:17
Speaker 2: cheeky means in your vernacular, but I guess it's not
23:20
Speaker 2: a good thing. Anyway, you know, the quarterbacks dreaded that
23:26
Speaker 2: day because when you had the wet ball, it's much heavier,
23:28
Speaker 2: it's harder to throw, now it's slippery. But it also
23:33
Speaker 2: made them... maintain the discipline. Okay, here it is. This
23:38
Speaker 2: is the situation. I might be confronted with this in
23:42
Speaker 2: a game sometime, and we're trying to practice it now
23:46
Speaker 2: so that we have experience with it, and we know
23:49
Speaker 2: how we're going to approach it when the time comes.
23:51
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys added soap to the water.
23:53
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We're trying to make it as slippery as possible.
23:56
Speaker 2: It makes the players concentrate harder, you know? It's That
24:00
Speaker 2: skin on skin is no good. We used to make
24:02
Speaker 2: them wear cloth on their shirts, you know, on their
24:04
Speaker 2: sleeves to try to make it skin cloth ball, you know.
24:09
Speaker 2: So we didn't like skin on skin. I bet.
24:13
Speaker 1: Now, because they were off for three hours, how do
24:17
Speaker 1: you keep them warm? Do they just kind of sit
24:19
Speaker 1: around and wait? What do you guys do in between?
24:21
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of both. You can't, you can't,
24:24
Speaker 2: you don't know how long you're going to be delayed,
24:27
Speaker 2: first of all. Usually you get an idea from the
24:29
Speaker 2: officials and they have people watching the weather closely. So
24:34
Speaker 2: they can kind of sometimes give you an advance. Hey,
24:36
Speaker 2: we're going back in 20 minutes. We're going back. It's
24:39
Speaker 2: going to be a 40 minute delay, you know, and
24:42
Speaker 2: it's the player's job to, to maintain whatever they have
24:47
Speaker 2: to maintain. Now, obviously if they're sitting around for 15
24:50
Speaker 2: to 20 minutes or 40 minutes and it takes them
24:54
Speaker 2: a while to get back up going. So that's why
24:57
Speaker 2: we always get a pre-pre-warning from the official, hey, we're
25:01
Speaker 2: going back in 20 minutes. That gives the players time
25:04
Speaker 2: to get back up, warmed up.
25:07
Speaker 1: Is that average time that you get a heads up?
25:10
Speaker 1: Because after a three-hour delay, like 20-minute warning, let's go?
25:13
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they're anxious to get the game back
25:16
Speaker 2: on broadcast. So they're trying to hurry that up as
25:19
Speaker 2: much as they can. But 20 minutes is plenty to
25:22
Speaker 2: get warm back up.
25:23
Speaker 1: So when the Buccaneers and the Browns came back after
25:25
Speaker 1: the weather delay, they came back with two minutes left
25:27
Speaker 1: to play. How are you calling that drive?
25:31
Speaker 2: How do I what?
25:31
Speaker 1: How are you calling that drive? How are you calling
25:33
Speaker 1: that two minutes?
25:34
Speaker 2: With two minutes left to play.
25:35
Speaker 1: Walk me through your thought process.
25:36
Speaker 2: Well, the team that's losing it is in a hurry
25:39
Speaker 2: up mode. They're not huddling. They haven't got time to huddle.
25:43
Speaker 2: You know, it's very important to accumulate your timeouts. So
25:47
Speaker 2: if you have timeouts, then you can use them at
25:51
Speaker 2: the appropriate time during the two-minute drive. But the two-minute
25:54
Speaker 2: drive is usually a no-huddle operation with the quarterback communicating
25:59
Speaker 2: to everybody verbally on the field. Sometimes it's just one
26:03
Speaker 2: word means a whole play to a player. And you
26:07
Speaker 2: rehearse that during the week. Like we might just indiscriminately,
26:11
Speaker 2: the quarterback says, well, Illinois. Well, Illinois means something to
26:16
Speaker 2: 10 players. They know exactly what to do. And if
26:19
Speaker 2: they said Tennessee, that would mean something different. But, you know,
26:24
Speaker 2: you don't like the quarterback much of the time repeating numbers.
26:29
Speaker 2: because everybody kind of knows the whole numbers in pro football.
26:33
Speaker 2: So if you're saying too many numbers, usually the defense
26:36
Speaker 2: can catch on pretty quickly. Good.
26:50
Speaker 1: Now, obviously, weather is out of your control as a coach,
26:53
Speaker 1: but let's move on to something that you have a
26:55
Speaker 1: little more control over. Talking about penalties, now specifically holding,
27:01
Speaker 1: I've seen former players say that there's holding on every
27:04
Speaker 1: play in the NFL. I saw a lot of yellow
27:07
Speaker 1: flags flying around for holding. It's just not always, some
27:11
Speaker 1: of them are not always called, right?
27:13
Speaker 2: Right.
27:14
Speaker 1: I'm curious how players get away with it and what
27:16
Speaker 1: coaches say about that line between legal and penalized. Like,
27:20
Speaker 1: do you ever step in?
27:23
Speaker 2: Well, you step in, but here's how you step in. Yeah.
27:27
Speaker 2: We scout the officials. The officials' crew is comprised of
27:31
Speaker 2: a set number of guys. It doesn't vary. Once you're
27:35
Speaker 2: on the crew, you're on the crew. They might have
27:37
Speaker 2: one substitute in waiting in case one of the officials
27:41
Speaker 2: is sick for the game and they have to replace them,
27:43
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. But we chart every crew, or
27:48
Speaker 2: I can't say we, I don't know what they do now,
27:50
Speaker 2: but I charted every crew every week. So I knew
27:54
Speaker 2: all the penalties that that crew called. And pretty soon
27:58
Speaker 2: after two or three or five or six ensuing weeks,
28:01
Speaker 2: you start seeing a tendency on the part of the crew.
28:05
Speaker 2: So prior to the game, you're instructing your players. As
28:09
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, very early in the week, hey, fellas,
28:12
Speaker 2: this crew calls offensive holding. You got to watch it.
28:17
Speaker 2: The Fellas, this crew is tight on roughing the passer.
28:23
Speaker 2: They call roughing the passer. If you touch that quarterback,
28:26
Speaker 2: they're going to call it. That kind of thing. So
28:29
Speaker 2: you try to instruct your players to concentrate on the
28:33
Speaker 2: phases that they know are going to be affected by
28:36
Speaker 2: the official's judgments. And some crews, it's just human. There's
28:41
Speaker 2: more emphasis in certain areas on the part of some
28:44
Speaker 2: crews More holding penalties, more rough on the quarterbacks, more
28:48
Speaker 2: defensive hands to the face, things that you can control.
28:53
Speaker 2: You try to make your players aware of that prior
28:56
Speaker 2: to the game so they can guard against it.
28:59
Speaker 1: So between you and me, you don't really discourage them.
29:01
Speaker 1: You just tell them, hey, if you're going to do it.
29:04
Speaker 2: No, no, no. We're not encouraging that.
29:07
Speaker 1: So it's not a strategy you guys use once in
29:09
Speaker 1: a while.
29:09
Speaker 2: No, you're trying to get them to play clean, hard
29:12
Speaker 2: football within the rules. That's what you're supposed to do.
29:15
Speaker 2: And that's what you preach as a coach. Clean, hard
29:19
Speaker 2: football within the rules.
29:21
Speaker 1: Have you ever yelled at an official for a bad
29:24
Speaker 1: holding call or something that you were like, nope, nope,
29:27
Speaker 1: that wasn't it?
29:28
Speaker 2: You know, personally, I... I learned from my high school coach,
29:35
Speaker 2: my high school coach was a good man and he
29:38
Speaker 2: didn't allow the players to talk to the officials. Really?
29:43
Speaker 2: And so I took that with me my entire career.
29:46
Speaker 2: I took it with me, and I never let my
29:50
Speaker 2: players talk to the officials. I'll talk to the officials.
29:53
Speaker 2: I'll communicate with them. You don't say a thing to them.
29:57
Speaker 2: And so... Pretty soon, the official's crew knows what kind
30:05
Speaker 2: of conduct they're going to get on the sideline from
30:07
Speaker 2: the coach. And pretty soon, you develop a communication where
30:11
Speaker 2: you can ask them questions. Sometimes it's an emotional situation
30:15
Speaker 2: where your voice is up a little. Or, you know,
30:17
Speaker 2: how come you didn't see this? Or how come you didn't?
30:20
Speaker 2: But that being said, you know, you try to maintain
30:25
Speaker 2: good relationships with the officials. And they're good guys. They
30:28
Speaker 2: have a job to do. And sometimes you can help
30:31
Speaker 2: them do it. All right.
30:32
Speaker 1: Really interesting. But one last question about the holding penalties.
30:36
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick used to tell the players to wear gloves
30:38
Speaker 1: that were the same color as the opponent's jerseys to
30:41
Speaker 1: make it harder to spot holding for the officials. Did
30:45
Speaker 1: he get that from you?
30:47
Speaker 2: Actually, no. Indirectly. I got that from my high school coach.
30:53
Speaker 1: Really?
30:53
Speaker 2: He used to make us wear the same gloves, the
30:56
Speaker 2: same color as the opponent's jerseys, if possible, so the
31:00
Speaker 2: officials had a more difficult time differentiating what's going on.
31:06
Speaker 2: So you're just trying to blend in, you know? You're
31:09
Speaker 2: just trying to blend in. So it's, you know, if
31:12
Speaker 2: they have a black jersey on and you got white gloves,
31:15
Speaker 2: it's pretty easy to see. But if you have black gloves,
31:18
Speaker 2: it's not quite as easy to see.
31:20
Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense. A little sneaky, but I like it.
31:22
Speaker 2: That's not sneaky. No? That's within the rules. You can
31:24
Speaker 2: wear whatever color gloves you want to. What do you
31:26
Speaker 2: mean sneaky? That's not sneaky. It's smart. Smart.
31:30
Speaker 1: Work smart, not hard. Yeah, that's right. All right, so
31:34
Speaker 1: lots of holding penalties are committed. by the offensive lineman
31:38
Speaker 1: to protect their quarterback. But quarterback's injuries are bound to happen.
31:43
Speaker 1: And I'm curious about what happens after a quarterback actually
31:45
Speaker 1: gets hurt because in the Bears quarterback, Caleb Williams, he
31:50
Speaker 1: apparently had a pretty bad injury or looked to be
31:53
Speaker 1: a bad injury with his hamstring. But once the quarterback
31:57
Speaker 1: gets injured and gets walked off, what are the immediate
32:00
Speaker 1: next steps they take to assess and repair him?
32:05
Speaker 2: Are you talking about with the quarterback's injury?
32:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, any player, really.
32:08
Speaker 2: Usually the first thing they do is try to put
32:11
Speaker 2: ice on the affected area to try to start to
32:14
Speaker 2: immediately quiet it down. You see them putting the ice
32:18
Speaker 2: bags on the player's injuries to try to keep the
32:21
Speaker 2: joints from swelling or quiet the muscle down if it
32:25
Speaker 2: happens to be a muscle injury. But other than that,
32:29
Speaker 2: there's not too much you can do. You just have
32:31
Speaker 2: to determine whether the player is going to be possibly
32:37
Speaker 2: returning to the game you know you leave that to
32:39
Speaker 2: your trainers and the team doctors they're the ones that
32:43
Speaker 2: make that decision and as a coach you just have
32:46
Speaker 2: to get on to the next thing you gotta get
32:48
Speaker 2: the backup in there you gotta start you know.
32:50
Speaker 1: So who's he seeing though like when the injured player
32:52
Speaker 1: especially quarterback is off with an injury who's he seeing
32:55
Speaker 1: first Like, who's taking care of him behind the scenes?
32:58
Speaker 2: Immediately, the team trainer. No, wait a minute. We don't
33:02
Speaker 2: take them all to the hospital for a broken fingernail.
33:06
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, these guys are worth a lot of money.
33:08
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't make any difference how much money they're worth.
33:11
Speaker 2: We treat them all the same. You know, you want
33:14
Speaker 2: to give them good attention. You want The training staff,
33:18
Speaker 2: which has expertise in these injuries, they've seen a lot
33:21
Speaker 2: of them, they've treated a lot of them, and your
33:23
Speaker 2: team doctor, they're the ones that make the judgments as
33:27
Speaker 2: to whether the player's capable of coming back to play
33:30
Speaker 2: or it's going to be a couple series, coach, just
33:33
Speaker 2: give us a little time, he'll be back, or he's
33:36
Speaker 2: out for the game and he's not coming back, get
33:40
Speaker 2: the replacement ready.
33:42
Speaker 1: And talking about replacement, is the backup quarterback always warmed up?
33:46
Speaker 2: Not always, but usually it's his job to stay ready. And,
33:51
Speaker 2: you know, just like any other position, you know, you
33:54
Speaker 2: have to maintain some degree of activity so that if
33:58
Speaker 2: you're called on and you never know when it's going
34:00
Speaker 2: to happen, it can be instantaneous. So you have to
34:03
Speaker 2: be ready to go.
34:04
Speaker 1: So when the new quarterback comes in, the backup quarterback,
34:08
Speaker 1: what's the first 15 minutes looking like? Do you think
34:10
Speaker 1: or do you find specifically that there's some getting used
34:14
Speaker 1: to or is it actually as a.
34:17
Speaker 2: Coach and staff you try to help the quarterback settle
34:19
Speaker 2: in you might give him plays that are very simply
34:23
Speaker 2: executed so he starts gets the feel of the game
34:26
Speaker 2: before you ask him to to do something that's a
34:29
Speaker 2: little more difficult involving more processing you know you want
34:33
Speaker 2: to kind of get him comfortable before you ask him
34:36
Speaker 2: sometimes the situation in the game though catherine Like late
34:40
Speaker 2: in the game, you don't have that luxury. He's got
34:45
Speaker 2: to go in and go, and he's got to perform,
34:49
Speaker 2: and he's got to perform immediately. And it's their job,
34:52
Speaker 2: the players, to stay ready. And just like any other position,
34:56
Speaker 2: it's not just quarterback, it's any position, your job to
34:59
Speaker 2: stay ready. You never know. It might be one play,
35:03
Speaker 2: and you're in there.
35:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've really got to be paying attention to
35:06
Speaker 1: the whole game to see how— the other quarterback's been
35:08
Speaker 1: doing it to kind of keep the same pace and
35:10
Speaker 1: the same atmosphere, right?
35:13
Speaker 2: Well, as best you can. You know, it's a different
35:16
Speaker 2: player going in. He might have a different skill set.
35:19
Speaker 2: He might have something he does better than the starting quarterback,
35:23
Speaker 2: but there might be several things that he doesn't do
35:26
Speaker 2: as well. So you try to ease him in and
35:29
Speaker 2: try to get him comfortable and allow him to do
35:32
Speaker 2: the things that you think he feels comfortable with.
35:34
Speaker 1: I like this. Now, trying to understand the game, I
35:39
Speaker 1: feel like I need some homework every week because you're
35:43
Speaker 1: teaching me a ton. It's a lot of information, but
35:46
Speaker 1: I love it. I want to know what players to
35:49
Speaker 1: watch from weeks one and two. Who do you have
35:53
Speaker 1: your eye on? Who should I be looking into? Who
35:57
Speaker 1: do you think has been really performing well?
36:00
Speaker 2: Well, You know, obviously the focus is around the quarterback, so...
36:10
Speaker 2: I know Josh Allen's your favorite player. Yeah. Yeah, well,
36:13
Speaker 2: I can understand why, because he's a very good player,
36:16
Speaker 2: and he's a guy I know personally, and I enjoy
36:19
Speaker 2: watching myself.
36:20
Speaker 1: The California guy with the sand in his shoes.
36:24
Speaker 2: Josh, yeah, that's right. That's what I asked him when
36:26
Speaker 2: I met him before the draft. I said, he's one
36:28
Speaker 2: of those Beach Boy quarterbacks with sand in his shoes.
36:31
Speaker 2: I don't want those. He gave me a sneer. He
36:34
Speaker 2: looked at me. He said, no, I'm not one of those.
36:37
Speaker 2: I said, okay, good.
36:38
Speaker 1: I love it. But who should I be keeping an
36:41
Speaker 1: eye on?
36:42
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the running back from Kansas City. Yeah.
36:49
Speaker 2: Pretty impressive.
36:50
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:50
Speaker 2: You know, kind of a new name on the front
36:54
Speaker 2: and high production. Like I say, most of the focus
37:00
Speaker 2: is on the quarterback position. So, you know, you... Like
37:04
Speaker 2: in my case, you know, I have a rooting interest
37:07
Speaker 2: with Sean Payton. So I'm watching this Bo Nix. And coincidentally,
37:12
Speaker 2: I knew his father, Bo Nix's father, Pat Nix. And,
37:16
Speaker 2: you know, so I'm interested to see how he's doing.
37:19
Speaker 1: I love that. All right, I'm going to keep an
37:21
Speaker 1: eye on those guys and report back next week and
37:23
Speaker 1: see what I learn.
37:24
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
37:25
Speaker 1: Make sure you know what you're looking at, though. Well,
37:27
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You're going to need to help
37:29
Speaker 1: me a little bit.
37:30
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do that.
37:31
Speaker 1: I did like the Chiefs game, though. It was a
37:32
Speaker 1: pretty good game.
37:33
Speaker 2: I know. Everybody likes the Chiefs.
37:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, another— I want to kind of unlock more
37:40
Speaker 1: about you. So another high-scoring game in the Lions-Bills game, right?
37:45
Speaker 2: Right.
37:46
Speaker 1: What's the message after winning a high-scoring barn burner like that?
37:51
Speaker 2: Well, you're obviously happy. First of all, you're happy you
37:55
Speaker 2: won the game. Yeah. Secondly, you have to be happy
37:59
Speaker 2: with your offense because they scored a lot of points.
38:03
Speaker 2: But you know deep down if your defense continues to
38:06
Speaker 2: play the way they played and give up an inordinate
38:09
Speaker 2: number of points every week that you're not going to
38:12
Speaker 2: be successful. So... My points of emphasis always are on
38:17
Speaker 2: what are the things that allow us to win and
38:20
Speaker 2: what are the things that cause us to lose. Yeah.
38:24
Speaker 2: And immediately call the player's attention to those things after
38:30
Speaker 2: the game, after you speak with them, after you all
38:32
Speaker 2: watch the film. Say, now, fellas, here's the reason we
38:35
Speaker 2: lost this one now. Here's the reason. If we don't
38:38
Speaker 2: get it corrected, we're going to lose some more. Mm-hmm.
38:42
Speaker 2: The points of emphasis are always on the things that
38:46
Speaker 2: allow you to win and the things that cause you
38:50
Speaker 2: to lose. And you have to constantly reiterate that to
38:54
Speaker 2: the players on a weekly basis.
38:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. Talking about relaying information, press conferences. Have you ever
39:03
Speaker 1: been so upset that you decided not to do a
39:04
Speaker 1: press conference?
39:07
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that's not optional.
39:09
Speaker 1: Oh, really?
39:09
Speaker 2: As a coach, you're mandated to speak with the press.
39:14
Speaker 2: There have been many times where I wish I didn't
39:16
Speaker 2: have to go through with that ordeal. But they have
39:21
Speaker 2: a job to do. That's the way I always approached it.
39:24
Speaker 2: They have the job to do. Prior to going in there,
39:27
Speaker 2: I always try to get a little heads up to myself. Hey, Parcells,
39:31
Speaker 2: what are they going to ask you here now? And
39:34
Speaker 2: try to be kind of not rehearsed, but at least
39:37
Speaker 2: prepared for the question. And, you know, you just have
39:40
Speaker 2: to help the media do their job because they have
39:43
Speaker 2: a job to do and you're part of it and
39:46
Speaker 2: you have to contribute to that. So, The better you
39:50
Speaker 2: can do that, usually the quicker it's over.
39:53
Speaker 1: What about the players? Do they get a choice whether
39:55
Speaker 1: they stand in front or not?
39:56
Speaker 2: No. They do have a choice not to speak. But
40:00
Speaker 2: for the most part, you try to encourage the players
40:04
Speaker 2: to cooperate with the press. Explain to them, as I
40:07
Speaker 2: just said, the press has a job to do. We
40:09
Speaker 2: can help them do it. It goes better for everybody. Yeah.
40:12
Speaker 1: Do you guys have like a media relations person that
40:15
Speaker 1: helps you?
40:15
Speaker 2: Oh, yes. They set up the interviews for the players
40:19
Speaker 2: if there's something outside of the postgame or after game
40:23
Speaker 2: or during the course of the week. The public relations
40:26
Speaker 2: department sets up all that for the players. All right.
40:29
Speaker 1: I have one last thought, though. What are your thoughts
40:32
Speaker 1: on players about backflips after touchdowns? Because I know that
40:35
Speaker 1: we talked about quarterback safety and injury, but I saw
40:39
Speaker 1: Skadaboo with the Giants this week. doing a big backflip.
40:45
Speaker 2: It's a double-edged sword. You don't want to quell enthusiasm.
40:49
Speaker 2: That was an enthusiastic gesture. But I've seen players get
40:55
Speaker 2: hurt doing those things. You know, those antics after the
41:00
Speaker 2: play or after the game, those kinds of things. So
41:04
Speaker 2: you try to warn them about it and try to
41:07
Speaker 2: Encourage them to be careful, but you do not want
41:10
Speaker 2: to quell their enthusiasm because that's part of this game.
41:14
Speaker 2: And enthusiastic players are usually players that are playing well.
41:19
Speaker 1: So knowing that, so let's say you were the head
41:22
Speaker 1: coach in that moment, would you have spoken to him afterwards?
41:26
Speaker 1: Or do you think that would have kind of taken
41:30
Speaker 1: away from his excitement?
41:31
Speaker 2: No. You know, if it was something that I thought
41:35
Speaker 2: was dangerous from him, I'd say, hey, listen, if you
41:37
Speaker 2: get hurt doing that, you know, we're all suffering. So
41:41
Speaker 2: let's be careful, you know, use good judgment. And most
41:44
Speaker 2: of the time they'll do that. All right.
41:47
Speaker 1: Well, I want to wrap up this episode, though, with
41:49
Speaker 1: a rapid fire round. Our two-minute drill.
41:52
Speaker 2: You ready? Oh, Catherine, you're getting all the terms. Two-minute drill.
41:56
Speaker 1: I know. I'm trying so hard.
41:58
Speaker 2: That means the two-minute drill means we got to hurry up.
42:01
Speaker 1: Okay, we're hurrying up. We got this. I want you
42:05
Speaker 1: to give me one word to describe the teams, players,
42:09
Speaker 1: and coaches I'm about to name.
42:10
Speaker 2: You ready? I'll try.
42:12
Speaker 1: One word. It can be more than one word, though.
42:15
Speaker 1: I have a feeling you might.
42:16
Speaker 2: Short sentence.
42:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's leave it at that.
42:18
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
42:19
Speaker 1: I'll allow it. Change approved. All right. Buffalo Bills.
42:22
Speaker 2: Need to improve their defense. All right.
42:26
Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers.
42:27
Speaker 2: Look like a strong contender.
42:31
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals.
42:32
Speaker 2: Surprising team. Generally a good offensive team. Much better on
42:38
Speaker 2: defense this year. Legitimate contender.
42:42
Speaker 1: That was more than a short sentence. I'm messing with you.
42:45
Speaker 1: All right, that's good. And how about the Cowboys quarterback,
42:50
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott?
42:51
Speaker 2: Veteran quarterback, a lot of experience, a very good NFL quarterback.
42:58
Speaker 2: Don't worry about him. He'll be fine.
43:01
Speaker 1: And how about the Raiders quarterback, Kirk Cousins?
43:05
Speaker 2: Off to a good start with the Raiders. Got them
43:09
Speaker 2: playing pretty well. A little surprising to me, quite frankly, but...
43:15
Speaker 2: Looks like he's got him on track, and the system
43:17
Speaker 2: that they're using seems to fit him well, and that's
43:20
Speaker 2: very important for a quarterback. Good.
43:22
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Bill. I got some homework to do,
43:24
Speaker 1: more learning to do, and with your help and your expertise,
43:27
Speaker 1: I think it's going splendidly well. So thank you.
43:31
Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome, Catherine. I enjoy being with you, and
43:33
Speaker 2: I look forward to the ensuing shows.
43:36
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Me too. So tune in next.
43:38
Speaker 2: Thursday, guys.
43:39
Speaker 1: We'll have another episode ready for you. Okay.