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  Speaker 1: This is the Pro Football Report presented by BCWSA, a
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  Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from Chickis and Peats. Now Here are your
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  Speaker 1: hosts from Inside the Birds Andrew did check O.
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  Speaker 2: at wbcbsports dot com. We are broadcasting live from the
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  Speaker 2: glorious Chickies and Peats in Warrington. And look the Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 2: They did the Eagles a solid on Sunday they beat
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  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. Unfortunately for the Eagles, they weren't able
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  Speaker 2: to hold up their end of the bargain. They fall
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  Speaker 2: to the Washington Commanders twenty four to seventeen. We'll start
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  Speaker 2: to break a little bit of that down, but we're
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  Speaker 2: going to primarily focus on the Eagles and the forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers. I'm Andrew Dechecko, Eagles beat reporter from Inside
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  Speaker 2: the Birds dot com and joining me today. My buddy,
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  Speaker 2: my good friend. He's been covering the Eagles full time
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  Speaker 2: for fifteen years. You know him from reading his stuff
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  Speaker 2: on Eagles on Sports Illustrated. That would be the great
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  Speaker 2: headcratz ed what's happening today?
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  Speaker 3: Ed's and thanks for that introduction, Andrew. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how great I am, but I'll take the compliment. I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing great. Happy new year out there to everybody. Let's go,
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  Speaker 3: let's get this playoff game going Sunday at four thirty, right.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: So the Eagles secure the number three seed and they
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  Speaker 2: will be facing the San Francisco forty nine ers Sunday
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  Speaker 2: at Lincoln Financial Field at four point thirty. Should be
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  Speaker 2: a phenomenal matchup and we're gonna get into plenty of that, Ed.
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  Speaker 2: But first of all, there's been so much discourse over
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  Speaker 2: really last week and after the game about the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: decision to rest the starters. Now, I was of the
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  Speaker 2: belief that that was the right decision. I maintain that
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  Speaker 2: he can't argue with the result. I mean, you're always
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  Speaker 2: going to look back and maybe have an issue with
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  Speaker 2: the results, but this is an Eagles team that has
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  Speaker 2: been really banged up all season long, and you look
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  Speaker 2: at it and you could take you could zoom out
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  Speaker 2: for a moment and say they're really healthy because outside
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  Speaker 2: of safety Drew mccooba. All of their starters are available.
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  Speaker 2: But to that, I would say, just because a player
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  Speaker 2: isn't listed on the injury report doesn't mean that they
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  Speaker 2: aren't dealing with something to some extent. I look at
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line, Jordan Malatta, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, Lane
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  Speaker 2: Johnson has been dealing with the foot injury since the
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  Speaker 2: Lions game. On the defensive side, Jalen Phillips missed the
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  Speaker 2: game with an anko injury, Nikobe Dean missed the game
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  Speaker 2: with the hamstring injury, Marcus Epps had the concussion he
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  Speaker 2: didn't play. Jalen Carter did not play in that game
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  Speaker 2: with the hip injury. So I believe that, yes, it
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  Speaker 2: was just one week, but that built in bye week
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  Speaker 2: I think really will serve the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, I'm surprised I agree with you there, because
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  Speaker 3: it seems like a lot of people really thought the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles should have been full steam ahead for that two seed.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to remember that this is a marathon season.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles started this season I think it was July
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  Speaker 3: twenty third with their first training KI practice, and here
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  Speaker 3: we are five months in and they came in, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, on a short off season after playing through
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  Speaker 3: early February in the Super Bowl. There was off season
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  Speaker 3: surgeries for landing for Cam Jurgens. This was a banged
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  Speaker 3: up team coming into the season and it really never
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  Speaker 3: got fully healthy. I remember after the Washington game when
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  Speaker 3: they beat the Commanders late in the season and Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Malatta saying afterwards that, yeah, they could use the rest.
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  Speaker 3: That is a banged up line, and a lot is
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  Speaker 3: one of those guys that has played every game this year,
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  Speaker 3: him and Tyler Steen, and I was kind of surprised
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  Speaker 3: to hear him admit that. And then when you talk
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  Speaker 3: to players coming out of the Buffalo game during that week,
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  Speaker 3: they all seemed to say, you know, rest would benefit them,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, you couldn't control the fact that Detroit
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  Speaker 3: was going to beat the Bears, right, and even Nick
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  Speaker 3: Sirianni alluded to that. So being able to rest their
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  Speaker 3: starters going into what is now the second season and
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  Speaker 3: if you're winning, you're going to be playing for another month.
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  Speaker 3: I think that rest will benefit them immensely. I really do,
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  Speaker 3: and I think it was the right call.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get into quarterback Tanner McKee because There was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of intrigue at going into this week about
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  Speaker 2: how Tanner McKee would perform, especially in a high leverage
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  Speaker 2: situation where there was a lot at stake there for
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles. He completed twenty one of forty passes, and
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  Speaker 2: there were moments earlier in that game where I thought
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  Speaker 2: he did a nice job of moving the offense, keeping
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  Speaker 2: it on schedule.
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  Speaker 4: He threw within rhythm.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was any coincidence that his best
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  Speaker 2: moments happened when DeVante Smith was on the field.
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  Speaker 4: But what did you make of his performance?
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  Speaker 2: Because I thought later in that game they asked an
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  Speaker 2: awful lot out of him, rather than maybe just hand
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  Speaker 2: the ball off to Tank Bigsby, who was seeing some
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  Speaker 2: production there in the running game, and even Will Shipley
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  Speaker 2: who just had one carry in the game. I thought
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  Speaker 2: that they put a lot on the shoulders of Tanner McKee.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point that he did look pretty
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  Speaker 3: good when DeVante was in there. You know, he was
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  Speaker 3: playing with a bunch of backups, let's face it, but
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  Speaker 3: Bigsby was having a very productive game, averaging close to
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  Speaker 3: five yards of carry sixteen carries. But they put it
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  Speaker 3: all on McKee's shoulders. From early in the third quarter
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  Speaker 3: through the fourth quarter, McKee threw fourteen straight passes. Bigsby
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  Speaker 3: pad a thirteen yard run with about two minutes to
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  Speaker 3: go in the third quarter and never saw the ball again,
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  Speaker 3: and the game was tied at that point. Now, I
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  Speaker 3: know they fell behind it late in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: They were down twenty four to seventeen with about two
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  Speaker 3: and a half to go, So yeah, okay, you gotta throw.
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  Speaker 3: But look, Bigsby was picking up some chunks and that
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  Speaker 3: might have helped keep that Commander's defense off balance. So
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  Speaker 3: that's been a concern to me Andrew all year. Is
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  Speaker 3: the way Kevin Petullo has called these games. He seems
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  Speaker 3: to abandon the run too quickly, and I thought he
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  Speaker 3: did it again on Sunday against the Commanders. But as
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  Speaker 3: far as McKee goes, you know, I thought he looked
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  Speaker 3: like a backup playing with backups.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I was impressed with some of the throws
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  Speaker 5: he made, but his decision making.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there was a second one play where he
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  Speaker 3: had about five yards of grass in front of him.
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  Speaker 3: He could have ran run the ball to pick up
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  Speaker 3: the first down. Instead he threw it pass gets broken
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  Speaker 3: up third and one, Bigsby gets stuffed for about a
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  Speaker 3: half a yard, so they have to punt. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: in that situation, I think mckis should have ran and
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  Speaker 3: picked up the first down. So, you know, situationally, there's
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  Speaker 3: some things he needs to learn, and I would love
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  Speaker 3: to see him get a chance at some point with
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  Speaker 3: the starters, because, like you mentioned DeVante Smith, when he
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  Speaker 3: was on the field, McKee looked pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And one player who we both mentioned already is
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  Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby. Tank Bigsby had seventy five yards, scored another touchdown,
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  Speaker 2: has two on the season, finished the regular season with
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  Speaker 2: just over three hundred yards. We could certainly make the
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  Speaker 2: argument that he deserved a much larger role in the offense.
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  Speaker 2: But I really enjoy watching Tank Bigsby run the football.
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  Speaker 2: He runs with what I describe as desperation, almost like
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  Speaker 2: he refuses to take a loss, and he creates his
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  Speaker 2: own holes when there isn't something there and there's just
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  Speaker 2: that urgency and just a knack for finding the crease,
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  Speaker 2: and he runs angry. And I think that that's something
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  Speaker 2: that I've really taken or have a new found appreciation
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  Speaker 2: having watched him because it's very unorthodox the way he
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  Speaker 2: runs the football.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, sometimes I can get him in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the knocks on Tank coming over
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  Speaker 3: from Jacksonville was his fumble. He fumbled the ball and
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  Speaker 3: we haven't seen that, and that's a great thing. So
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  Speaker 3: you know he's improving. He's getting better in that part
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  Speaker 3: of the game. But you're right, the way he runs
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  Speaker 3: the ball, it's just so fun to watch. But I
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  Speaker 3: would point to a catch. He made one catch in
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  Speaker 3: the game for thirty one yards, kind of a short
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  Speaker 3: throw over the middle, and he ducked underneath of a
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  Speaker 3: tackle and then picked up thirty one yards running to
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  Speaker 3: open space down the sidelines. So you know he's a
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  Speaker 3: threat in the past game too. And it's good that
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  Speaker 3: he hasn't fumbled. You know, that gives you confidence in him.
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  Speaker 3: The coaches have confidence in him, and I think, listen,
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  Speaker 3: you're always going to be second fiddle to Saquon Barkley.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Barkley's a Hall of Fame player. But I
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  Speaker 3: think they probably should find a little bit more, you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing time for Tank Bigsby. But right now, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think we'll see it the playoffs are here. I think
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  Speaker 3: you go with your best players, maybe throw Biggs b
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  Speaker 3: in when Barkley needs a blow something they've been doing.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, he's certainly an impressive backup to have on
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  Speaker 3: the team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that kind of leads to my next point
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  Speaker 2: in that the Eagles, when they struggle offensively, there's always
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  Speaker 2: so much you can do. There's always so many buttons
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  Speaker 2: you can press, right, Yeah, but something that is in
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  Speaker 2: their control is maybe finding a way to get Tank
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  Speaker 2: Biggsby four to six carries a game as it change up.
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  Speaker 2: I think he brings some energy and juice into the offense,
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  Speaker 2: and when you're trying to find some answers entering the postseason,
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  Speaker 2: that could be one that's right in front of you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And again I think that ability to catch the football.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that was Kenny Gainwell's role last year was
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  Speaker 3: a very good catcher out of the backfield. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think the Eagles have that in Bigsby. I think he
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  Speaker 3: can catch the ball well, I don't think Barkley is
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  Speaker 3: consistent enough catching the football. And then Will Shipley, you
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  Speaker 3: know he can catch the ball, but they don't seem
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  Speaker 3: to use him a lot. But it would be nice
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  Speaker 3: to see not only Biggsby get like you said, four
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  Speaker 3: to six carries, but maybe throwing the ball a couple
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  Speaker 3: times too, especially after what he did against the Commanders
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  Speaker 3: with that really sweet move to pick up thirty one yards.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked to I know you and I were
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  Speaker 2: there for Drew Kendall, but we talked to a couple
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  Speaker 2: of the young linemen who had a chance to play
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  Speaker 2: a pretty prominent.
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  Speaker 4: Role for the first time in their careers.
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  Speaker 2: And by and large, yes there were moments that they
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  Speaker 2: would probably like to have back, but for their first
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  Speaker 2: NFL action meaningful snaps, I thought they acquitted themselves pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: So with Drew Kendall, I remember asking him if his father,
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  Speaker 2: Pete Kendall, who played was a first round pick in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, played for four different teams, if his
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  Speaker 2: dad was there, had he heard from his dad was
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  Speaker 2: in attendance, and he was under the impression that he
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  Speaker 2: was going to be a little hard on him, but
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  Speaker 2: he said that he gave him some sound advice going
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  Speaker 2: into that game, and honestly, I thought he performed pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great question. I was there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we were talking to Drew. I think it was just
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  Speaker 3: you and me and maybe another person, but you're the
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  Speaker 3: one that pursued that line of questioning. I didn't even
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  Speaker 3: think of that. But it was cool that his dad
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  Speaker 3: was there. He talked to his dad. He said, listen
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  Speaker 3: to Squap, you're gonna have butterflies on that first snap.
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  Speaker 3: You hit somebody, or somebody hits you, they go away
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  Speaker 3: and you're just playing football.
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  Speaker 5: And then he said afterward he was gonna go see
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  Speaker 5: his dad, and he was a little worried that he's
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  Speaker 5: probably gonna be hard on him.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought, you know, to your point, I
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  Speaker 3: thought the backup line played.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's a tough situation for backup linemen to come in.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot going on, a lot of things you
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  Speaker 3: have to process pre snap, and then you have to go
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  Speaker 3: out and execute your job.
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  Speaker 5: And I thought Kendall did pretty well in that role.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, Stein of course was the only
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  Speaker 3: starter on that line that played.
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  Speaker 5: Thought he did well.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought Drew Kendall, I think the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: have their backup center. And you know, Cam Jurgen's the
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  Speaker 3: way he's been kind of banged up this year.
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  Speaker 5: You never know what could happen.
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  Speaker 3: As far as you know, maybe Drew Kendall having a
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  Speaker 3: step in a little bit more, maybe in the playoffs
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  Speaker 3: or even through next year.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty twenty six season.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I like the way he played, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: they picked up yards on the ground. Bigsby had seventy
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  Speaker 3: five yards I think, and you know it was a
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  Speaker 3: good sign.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think also something that helped Drew Kendall
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  Speaker 2: in that game was that he played alongside Brett Toth.
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  Speaker 2: And something I've observed a lot during the season being
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  Speaker 2: in the locker room is that there's a Brett Toath.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't get the recognition from the outside, but
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  Speaker 2: what he does a really good job of is paying
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  Speaker 2: it forward to the younger lineman.
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  Speaker 4: And he's mentioned me before. He came up through the rich.
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  Speaker 2: Ancestry of playing with Jason Kelcey and Isaac Sayamalu, Jason Peters,
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  Speaker 2: and he's sort of paying it forward to the younger lineman.
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  Speaker 2: He struck up a really close friendship with Drew Kendall.
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  Speaker 2: He talks to Jake majors how and Pierce and playing
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  Speaker 2: alongside him maybe helped Drew Kendall calm things down early
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  Speaker 2: in that game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're right next to each other in the locker room,
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  Speaker 3: to their lockers are side by side, so it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of a natural thing to just pick each other's brain
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  Speaker 3: to kind of lift Kendall up a little bit as
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  Speaker 3: a rookie. And you know, listen, the Eagles lineman have
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  Speaker 3: done this throughout the throughout you know, the last decade
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  Speaker 3: or so. You know, Jason Peters, tutors, Jordan Malatta, Lane
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  Speaker 3: Johnson is always willing to help younger guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles draft players that actually care about continuing the
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  Speaker 3: legacy that this offensive line has built through the years
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  Speaker 3: under Jeff Stout one. So it is nice to see
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  Speaker 3: Brett toath kind of, you know, take those younger players
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  Speaker 3: like you mentioned, Hollis Pierce Brett or Drew Kendall and
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  Speaker 3: some of the other ones under his wing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and very quickly before we turn the page from
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  Speaker 2: this game and focus more on the here and now,
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  Speaker 2: the cornerback situation, Keeley Ringo, Jacoreyan Bennett, it was a mess.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that there are of the Eagles nine penalties,
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  Speaker 2: I think six were charged to the secondary and to
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  Speaker 2: kind of zoom out, I think, and I hope it
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  Speaker 2: maybe forces those on the outside or maybe those who
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  Speaker 2: have been critical of a Dori Jackson to maybe look
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  Speaker 2: at him with a little bit more appreciation considering the
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  Speaker 2: players behind him, and all of a sudden, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: look all that bad. I think Adorri Jackson has kind
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  Speaker 2: of done a nice job settling into that number two
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  Speaker 2: cornerback role.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's you know, think back to the early
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  Speaker 3: part of the season and Dorri Jackson struggled, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's one of the big underrated storylines. Is he
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  Speaker 3: got better, he got more comfortable, like you said, in
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  Speaker 3: that role, what Dick Fangio expected from him, and now
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  Speaker 3: he's the guy. You wonder after watching some of these
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  Speaker 3: backups play, did the Eagles try to bring him back,
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  Speaker 3: maybe on another one year deal because of what he's done.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he'll be a starter next year, but
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  Speaker 3: he could be valuable reserve, much of the way Isaiah
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  Speaker 3: Rodgers was on this team last year. But if there's
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  Speaker 3: one thing I take away from this game, Andrew, it's
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  Speaker 3: the secondary needs to be addressed heavily in the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Killey Ringo, great kid, hard working kid, still
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  Speaker 3: a very young player, twenty three years old.
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  Speaker 5: I think he came into the league.
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  Speaker 3: At twenty years old, but boy, you just wonder if
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  Speaker 3: he's ever going to get it. It's a concern, and
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  Speaker 3: the players just panicked, you know. Mac McWilliams, the rookie,
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  Speaker 3: got his first extended snatty panicked the balls in there.
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  Speaker 3: He pushes his guy down I in the en zone.
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  Speaker 3: They had three pis in the end Z and Jakorean
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  Speaker 3: Bennett had two and mac McWilliams had one. So you
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  Speaker 3: can't have that, you know. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: concerns I have going into the offseason. And I know
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  Speaker 3: we're not there yet. You hope you have another month
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  Speaker 3: of playoffs here, but you have to find adequate, you know,
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  Speaker 3: competent backups to be played behind Cooper the Gene and
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  Speaker 3: Quinya Mitchell.
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  Speaker 4: That's well said.
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  Speaker 2: And when we get back, we're gonna talk injuries and
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna start to unpack the week that will be
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  Speaker 2: for you me then the Philadelphia Eagles as they prepare
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  Speaker 2: to take on the San Francisco forty nine ers. You're
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, all right, you're listening to the Pro
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  Speaker 2: my buddy Ed Kratz, longtime Eagles beat reporter, and we
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: are live from Chicken's and Pizza and Warrington. And I'll
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: tell you what, when you look around the NFL and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: you see a lot of beat writers across the league
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: start to focus on locker and things like that, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: we have another week to work and cover another postseason run.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: It's something that I certainly don't take for granted, and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I have to imagine you've covered a lot of these
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: and you probably have a certain appreciation for it as well.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, listen, this is probably the greatest sustained
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: success this organization has had in its long history. You know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: they've been in the playoffs now eight out of the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: last nine seasons, five straight under Nick Sirianni.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's awfully hard to do.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: You know, we saw the Chiefs run of postseasons come
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  Speaker 3: to an end. It happens eventually, So you have to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: enjoy these why you have them, And right now they're having.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Quite a bit of success.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Two super Bowls in the last three years, two super
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Bowl titles in the last eight years, and here they are,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: back in the mix, back in the conversation again.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: So before we get to the injuries, you and I
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: were sort of talking off camera here, and since you've
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: been covering the Eagles as long as you have, I
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: believe it fifteen years full time, what playoff memory really.
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  Speaker 4: Sticks out to you in particular for whatever reason.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did talk about this and I have two
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: and even though it's been fifteen years, I was kind
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: of like the backup guy, you know, back in the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: early ohs. And I remember the playoff game at the Vet,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the final game at the Vet, where the Tampa Bay
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Buccaneers came in here. Had never won a game when
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: the temperature dropped below thirty two degrees, but yet it
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: was below thirty two degrees that day. The Eagles took
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: a lead and then they ended up losing to the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Bucks to close down the VET, So that was kind
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: of a sad memory. Probably one of my more memorable memories,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: if you will, was when they won the NFC Championship
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: game in twenty seventeen against the Minnesota Vikings, whose fans
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: came in here kind of made a big deal. Did
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the skull chant from the steps of the Art Museum
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: put their Minnesota Viking jersey on the Rocky statue there
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that sits at the bottom of the steps.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: That's a no no, that's a no no. And the
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Eagles made them pay.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And I think the memorable play for me in that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: game is, I know you're thinking flea flicker right to
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: start the second half.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Which was kind of the dagger.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: That was similar to what we saw in the Super
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Bowl this past February when when Jalen hurts at DeVante
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Smith to kind of put that game on ice in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: That was similar.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But my most memorable play from that game is when
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Patrick Robinson had that pick six. Chris Long hits the
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Vikings quarterback and he goes case Keenum hits his arm
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and Robinson takes it at maybe the forty forty five
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  Speaker 3: yard line and goes straight, turns right, cuts up the field,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: just a zigzag into the end zone, and that was
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: one of the most loudest moments I've ever heard. The
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: link was after he returned that because the Vikings had momentum,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: they had a lead at that point, and Robinson picks
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: that ball off. I think it's seven to seven. After
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: that point, the place is going bananas. And then the
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Eagles just hit the gas from there and blew them
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: out of the building.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I have to imagine that was the loudest you
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: can recall Lincoln Financial Field.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: It was, and I listen. A close second to me
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: is back in I guess it was the two thousand
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: and four season when the Link was still brand spanking new, basically,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: and the Atlanta Falcons, led by Mike Vick come to
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: town and the Eagles beat them, and I was out
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: on the field after the game. It's back when you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: media was allowed onto the field and it was freezing cold.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I forgot my jacket, but the outpouring of love from
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: the fans, it was just the all the noise landing
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: on my head is what it felt like, and it
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: kind of warmed me up. And I remember thinking at
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the time, like, you know, it's no wonder it's so
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: hard for players to want to retire from this game
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: because look, look at this outpouring of emotion and love
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: from the fan base. And that's probably any fan base
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: that gets to the Super Bowl. I remember that place
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: just being just a wall of noise for the players
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: after the game as they're hugging each other, congratulating one another,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: and the fans all stayed no matter how cold it was,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the fans stayed in the stands and watched that whole celebration.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And I was able to hear that and witness that,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: and that was exciting.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Man, that must have been a sight to behold. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: was trying to picture it as you were illustrating it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's now for this week's injury review, brought to
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  Speaker 2: eight zero six three six eight nine. That's two one
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  Speaker 2: five eight zero six three six eight nine. Injuries that
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you and I will be keeping an eye on this
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: week for the Philadelphia Eagles. And these players did not
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: play against the Commanders. They were ruled out on Friday.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: That's defensive tackle Jalen Carter with the hip, outside linebacker
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips ankle, linebacker Nacobe Dean hamstring, right tackle Lane
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Johnson foot, safety Marcus Epps concussion, and tight end Dallas
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Goddard knee.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think Jalen Carter. He said it
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: during the week leading up to that final Commander's game
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: that if this was the playoffs, you'd be ready to go.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: So not too concerned about Jalen Carter, Marcus Epps. You
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: never know how the concussion protocol plays out. He's really
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: kind of helped solidify that back end after Andrew mccooba
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: went out with the broken ankle in week twelve. He's
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: played well and if he can't play, then what are
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: you looking at? Sydney Brown, Michael Carter, Brandon Johnson.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They just they just put him on the practice squad
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: injured list. And I should also add, not to interrupt,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that they signed Parry Nickerson to the practice squad. They
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: brought him back and released Ambry Thomas, another defensive back.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: So those were your transactions from today.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, certainly if Marcus EPs can't play, that's
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: gonna be something that is going to really bear watching.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: And then, of course, you know Lane Johnson. You know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: he hasn't played. I think he's been out since maybe
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: seven straight games. I think he's missed again. I think
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: he's a player that had this been, you know, a
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: playoff type of game, he probably would have played. But
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: he's expected to return to practice on Wednesday. We'll see
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: how he looks. I think he's gonna play. I think
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: he'll be fine. And he's a you know, he's a vet, right,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: He's a twelve thirteen year vet. He doesn't need a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: lot of time to get ready. We all know what
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Lane Johnson can do. Lane Johnson knows what he can do,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and I would expect him to play, but certainly something
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: to watch. And then n Kobe Dean vic Fangio today
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to the reporters today and said that he expects Nakobe
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: to play. And again, I think that it's an injury
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that they're just being cautious with. It wasn't that serious
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: of a hamstring injury when it happened, but you never
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: know with hamstrings, they could blow at any time, So
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: they were just taking it easy with Nakobe. They didn't
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: really need to win these games at the end. They
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: were kind of locked in where they were. But I
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: think Nakobe will play, but he's another one to keep
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: an eye on.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you look at Nacobe Dean and the impact
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that he's had ed and last season, I look at
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Cooper Dejen and the insertion of Cooper Degen into that
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: nickel role in replacement of Avonte Maddox and how that
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: sort of transformed the defense. You can look at Jalen
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Phillips certainly for sort of qualifying and fulfilling that type
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of role. But na Kobe Dean, there's something to be
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: said for him when he's in there, he is a
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: physical force in the middle of that defense. He plays
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: with such tenacity and energy that I feel radiates throughout
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the defense. You hear how teammates talk about him. I've
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: mentioned this even last year. I believe he's the heartbeat
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of that defense. And when he's in there, he sets
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the tone from a physical standpoint that the forty nine
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: ers and Christian McCaffery are gonna have.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: To deal with.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You're right, and there's no doubt about that. And his
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: leadership qualities are second to none. You know, Nikobe talked
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: about when he was out and the Eagles were, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: kind of scuffling along. He missed the first seven games,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I think rehabbing the knee. He said one of his
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: missions when he got back was to go out there
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: and let his defense have fun again. Let's celebrate a
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: big play together. And that's what he brings. He loves
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: playing this game. He brings so much energy and passion
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and he just kind of manifests itself to his teammates
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and they feed off of that, and the defense started
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: having fun again. You see them running into the end
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: zone and celebrating a turnover, you know, high five on
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: one another after a big play that they make. So
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you know, that's na Kobe and it's going to be
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: interesting Andrew to see this season ends. Whenever it is
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: what they're gonna do with Nakobe Dean, you know, his
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: contract is up, and we'll see. They have Jehad Campbell
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: who stepped in for Nakobe when he was out those
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: seven games and then again against the Commanders, had ten tackles,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: another phenomenal player. It's just gonna be interesting beyond whatever
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: lies ahead to see what they do with Nikobe.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even beyond the on field contributions, which I understand,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: that's what we're focusing on. How he's so available after
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the game. He'll stand there and talk for thirty minutes
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: before and after he showers, answering the different waves of reporters.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He does so much for the community. He's a really
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: good humanitarian as well, so I think he deserved. He's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: just an all round just a good person in a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: phenomenal football player.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever, whenever Nakobe's at his locker, which is a
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: couple times each week, you can just go up and
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: talk to him about anything, you know, the college game,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: how's Georgia doing where he played, you know, whatever you
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: want to talk about. Nikobe's always willing to talk and
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: he'll dress wave after wave of reporter after game, even
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: after he didn't play well, like he did you know
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the Bears game that the Bears around all over the
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Eagles and the Kobe was on the field for that,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: but yet he answered I guess three different waves of questions,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the same ones, everybody asking the same questions, and the
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Kobe's like always has time. So yeah, he's a good
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: person off the field, and maybe the Eagles will take
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: that into account when when the contract situation comes up.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So for the forty nine ers, ed wide receiver Ricky
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Piersall missed the game against the Seahawks with the knee
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: and ankle, and left tackle Trent Williams missed the game
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: as well with a hamstring. Now they claim that both
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: players could have went if the game had been on Sunday,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: but we'll see how that progresses throughout the week. They're
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: missing some key players in general. On they're injury reserved list.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, Fred Warner. Nick Bosa is a top five
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: edge rusher. You can make the argument in the NFL.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Fred Warner is the top off ball linebacker in the NFL.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Huge losses for them. They also lost middle linebacker Tatum Bethune.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: That's another big loss, that's a recent one, and so
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: they're really banged up there at linebacker. They also have
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: players like de Winter and Luke Gifford who are also injured.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So it kind of reminds me a little bit of
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: about that Bears game on Black Friday where they were
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: down to their fourth and fifth linebackers. I'm wondering whether
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: or not the Eagles are gonna be able to take
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: advantage of that second level.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Well, hopefully they learned a lesson against the Bears, because yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the Bears were down their three starting linebackers and the
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers are banged up there. Now, there was
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a report coming in. I don't know if you saw this.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's true, but the forty nine ers are
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: gonna sign Kaizer White, that's right. And Kaizer White could
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: be on the field against his former team the.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Year and Eric Kendricks they have too, and he's been
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: playing in the league forever.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: So you know how quickly those guys can get acclimated
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: with the defense or you're just telling them to go
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: out there and tackle whoever has the ball. We'll see,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: but the forty nine ers have brought in some reinforcements
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: at that spot. We'll see how that works out and
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: if the Eagles can, like you said, take advantage of
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: it of some of that it's not inexperience, but some
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: of that newness that they're bringing in.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And because of that, I can't help but wonder if
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: this will be a big game for Dallas. Now, we
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: have to keep an eye on Goddard, who missed the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: game with the knee, so that's gonna be something critical
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: that we'll be keeping an eye on. But this feels
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: like it could be a big Dallas Goddard game. Maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: some play action working the middle of the field, taking
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: advantage of his ability after the catch to really set
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: that tone from a physical standpoint.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, and listen, eleven touchdown passes this
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: year sets the team record that had stood since nineteen
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: sixty five, so long time ago before you know a
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: lot of people were born, not me but others. But
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I don't remember when Pete Retz left did it in
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty five, But you're right, I think Dallas goddr.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: You know he's got the knee. We'll keep an eye
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: on that. But listen, I'm of the opinion of this
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: is this is winner go home. If you're if you're
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: a professional player and your arm's not hanging off or
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: your or your foot's not pointing sideways, you're gonna do
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: everything you can to get out there and play. So
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I expect god It to be out there, Trent Williams,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: whoever else, Ricky Pierce, Ricky Pierce. I expect both teams unless,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: like I said, something really really serious is wrong, they're
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: gonna give.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: It a go and try to play on Sunday.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Absolutely good stuff there.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Ed.
• 29:07
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  Speaker 1: Hey, once again, here are your hosts from Inside the Birds,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew did check.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you're listening to the Pro Football Report,
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  Speaker 4: I'm Andrew to check out.
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  Speaker 2: Seated to my life left longtime Eagles beat reporter Ed Kratz,
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  Speaker 2: my buddy who covers the team for Eagles on Sports
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  Speaker 2: Illustrated and Ed. But before we start to get to
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  Speaker 2: our keys to the game, you and I have struck
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  Speaker 2: up a pretty close friendship over the past couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: And you know when we go on the road to
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  Speaker 2: cover the games, I think of the time in Tampa
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  Speaker 2: or even the Super Bowl when we're out there at
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  Speaker 2: whatever those restaurants are that we go to, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: in New Orleans, we've we've had a lot of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 2: And I have to say, if I had a flat
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  Speaker 2: tire or something like that, you might be the first
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  Speaker 2: person on the beat that I would call. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: not Mike, you definitely would be. But just kind of
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  Speaker 2: jogging your memory over the years, what are some some
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  Speaker 2: memorable road trips that you've that you've experienced.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, I don't want to undersell the dinner
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  Speaker 3: that we had in Ibor City.
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  Speaker 2: Oh this one here with the Columbia there, it is,
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  Speaker 2: got the pen, Got the penh terrific food.
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  Speaker 3: If you're ever in Ibris City or outside of Tampa,
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  Speaker 3: we highly recommend this forrest. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: we can say it.
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  Speaker 2: On the air, but yeah, Columbia Restaurant. Yeah, fantastic place.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. But anyway, that was certain. That was a fun night.
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  Speaker 3: But one of my favorite probably road trip memories was
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  Speaker 3: I guess it was the day before the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: in Minnesota. You know, it really never stopped snowing that
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  Speaker 3: week out there in Minnesota. There was always flurries flying
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  Speaker 3: in the air and it never got above you know,
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  Speaker 3: sixteen degrees. I don't think cheese.
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  Speaker 5: But the day.
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  Speaker 3: Before, me and a couple other writers, someone had rented
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  Speaker 3: a car and we went up to Saint Paul and
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  Speaker 3: there was the Olympic Festival was going on because I
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  Speaker 3: think the Winter Olympics were coming in twenty eighteen, and
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  Speaker 3: they had the They had a toboggan you could sit in,
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  Speaker 3: and they had the curling ice set up three different ones,
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  Speaker 3: and you could just go up and try it, and
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  Speaker 3: I remember taking a knee and one of the other writers,
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  Speaker 3: Marcus Hayes from the Philadelphia Choirers, videoing me, and I
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  Speaker 3: pushed the rock down the track of ice and it
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  Speaker 3: lands right in the center where it's supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Complete. Luck.
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  Speaker 3: I had never curled a day in my life. And
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  Speaker 3: the woman interview interviewer comes up to me and.
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  Speaker 5: She says, oh, my gosh, it's so great. Do you
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  Speaker 5: know what you did?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I put it in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the ice and she's like, yeah, but you know
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  Speaker 3: what that's called. And I'm like, I don't know. I said,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: is a condo or a house? And I guess it's
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  Speaker 3: called the eye or something, or maybe it's the house.
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: But Marcus Hayes is laughing like crazy and he's videoing
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: And we had so much fun that day.
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  Speaker 3: Martin Frank he was also with us, our friend Martin
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  Speaker 3: Frank from the Delware online website, but he was with us,
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  Speaker 3: and we went to try to go to Prince's house
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  Speaker 3: that day and it was like one hundred dollars a
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  Speaker 3: person to get in, so we left and we went
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  Speaker 3: to Lake Minnetonka. But we just had a great day
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  Speaker 3: in and around Saint Paul. The day before the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: beat the New England Patriots in that Super Bowl, when
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  Speaker 3: Nick Foles came out and was just lights out, And
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  Speaker 3: I remember going into the Mall of America where the
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  Speaker 3: media center was that week and every day being greeted
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  Speaker 3: by two huge banners that, huh, if you ever in
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  Speaker 3: the Mall of Americ, it's like three or four stories high,
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  Speaker 3: and there were two huge banners of Nick Foles and
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  Speaker 3: Tom Brady. And I'd look at it and say, there's
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  Speaker 3: no way Nick Foles is going to be Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 5: This guy's the goat, and we.
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  Speaker 3: Have a backup who's caught fire. Yes, but this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a tough matchup. And then Foles goes
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  Speaker 3: out and does it, and you know, delivers the first
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl championship to Philadelphia, which you know was you know,
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  Speaker 3: you always remember your first time and I'll never forget
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  Speaker 3: that game or that weekend in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Man, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: dot com. Okay, so I look at this game ed defensively,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have really any concerns about the Philadelphia Eagles
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  Speaker 2: being able to ward off Brock Purty, Christian McCafferty and
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  Speaker 2: that offense.
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  Speaker 4: From an offensive standpoint.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: With the Eagles, it's fair to have questions because we
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen the offense be able to perform to this
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  Speaker 2: stay that they sat with. Kevin Patulo, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a big spotlight on him this week. Is he going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to craft an offense that can take
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  Speaker 2: advantage of a defense in the forty nine Ers that
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  Speaker 2: I would argue is sort of the most lackluster in
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  Speaker 2: this playoff field. It can't just be, you know, very predictable.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you run a couple of times, you take
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  Speaker 2: a deep shot. It could because there have been many
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  Speaker 2: times this season where the offense has felt predictable, like
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  Speaker 2: we know what's coming.
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  Speaker 4: I would like to see him some more optionality, maybe see.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: The Eagles build off of some of the different intricacies
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  Speaker 2: that we saw against the Chargers. Even against the Raiders,
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  Speaker 2: there are some good things there, some more under center looks,
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  Speaker 2: some play action, and then sort of maybe try to
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  Speaker 2: marry that with what they did in that first Commanders game.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be the best case scenario. Clearly,
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  Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to flip a switch and
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden become this high octane offense, because
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: there's been no demonstrated performance this season. But I certainly
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  Speaker 2: think that given the talent and you know, the knowing
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  Speaker 2: the stakes and how high they are right now, they
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  Speaker 2: should be able to put together a game plan that
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  Speaker 2: can take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the fact that we're still kind of talking
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  Speaker 3: about the offense here five plus months into the season,
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  Speaker 3: not really knowing what to expect from it, to me,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: is a big red flag. They should have had this
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  Speaker 3: thing worked out long before January tenth or whenever this
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  Speaker 3: game's going to be January eleventh, I guess it is.
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  Speaker 3: But here we are, you know, and Patullo is going
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  Speaker 3: to have to figure out how to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: Him and Nick Sirianni both You mentioned that it's a
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  Speaker 3: depleted forty nine Ers defense. The Bears defense was depleted,
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  Speaker 3: and yet they couldn't take advantage of it, so hopefully
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  Speaker 3: they can take.
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  Speaker 5: Some lessons from that.
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  Speaker 3: To me, I think offensively, it's imperative to get Jalen
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  Speaker 3: Hurts more involved in the run game, to make the
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  Speaker 3: forty nine.
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  Speaker 5: Ers respect his legs.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles have been hesitant to do that all season
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  Speaker 3: for whatever reason. Maybe it has to do with the
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  Speaker 3: fact that, you know, Hurts is twenty seven years old
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  Speaker 3: now doesn't look quite as fast when he gets to
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  Speaker 3: the edge.
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  Speaker 5: That happened.
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  Speaker 3: You know, now twenty two year old guys are chasing
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  Speaker 3: you and you're twenty seven, you don't look as fast.
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  Speaker 3: But also I think the Eagles are a little hesitant
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  Speaker 3: to do that to try to keep Jalen Hurts healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Remember the past few seasons, he's always gets hurt late
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  Speaker 3: in the year, so you could always get hurt inside
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  Speaker 3: the pocket, but then you increase your chances of getting
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  Speaker 3: hurt when you're running the ball. So now he's gotten
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  Speaker 3: through the regular season, it's one and done. I'd like
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  Speaker 3: to see them unleash Hurts a little bit more, maybe
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  Speaker 3: do a little more rpo stuff, and make the forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers respect Jalen Hurts his legs a little bit more,
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  Speaker 3: maybe than defenses have late in the season against the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: So that to me, to get this run game going,
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  Speaker 3: you have to put the fear of Hurts and his
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  Speaker 3: running ability back into the game plan.
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  Speaker 2: What I would like to see Kevin Bittulo do is
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  Speaker 2: because there's been many times this season where the offense
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  Speaker 2: has gotten off to a slow start three and out punt,
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  Speaker 2: Get Jalen Hurts some easy completions, whether that be some
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  Speaker 2: screens to God Hurt, some throws over the middle, get
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  Speaker 2: Aj Brown involved on those crossers, on those bang eight routes,
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  Speaker 2: and it allows Jay when Hurst to settle into the
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  Speaker 2: flow of the game. Because there's something to be said
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  Speaker 2: for when you get that first three and out, you
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  Speaker 2: start to feel the pressure coming in. Now, Nick Sirianni
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  Speaker 2: and Jay when Hurts are better equipped to handle it
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  Speaker 2: than most teams and most head coaching quarterback in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL playoff field, but when you have an offense that's
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  Speaker 2: been sputtering all season, you would like to get off
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  Speaker 2: to a faster start. And I think there are certain
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  Speaker 2: ways that Kevin Pittulla can help his quarterback out with
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  Speaker 2: those first scripted plays.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, great point.
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  Speaker 3: Get some easy first downs early, get Jalen into more
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  Speaker 3: of a rhythm early and get that run game going.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is a defense to forty nine Ers
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  Speaker 3: that gave up one hundred and eighty yards to the
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks in the fight for the number one seed. So listen,
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  Speaker 3: if the Seahawks can run for one dye with Kenneth
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  Speaker 3: Walker and Zach Sharbonnat Zach Sharbonay, I mean, why can'ty
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  Speaker 3: Eagles bang out one fifty at least with Barkley and
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  Speaker 3: possibly Bigsby. So you know, you have to factor that
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  Speaker 3: into you know, maybe Hurts can get forty to fifty
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  Speaker 3: yards rushing, maybe more, but I think that's where you're
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  Speaker 3: going to have to win this game is on the ground.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what worries me is.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, I think Kevin Patula seems to
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  Speaker 3: get away from the run a little too quickly. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, I know penalty is a factored into it,
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  Speaker 3: and they're behind the sticks second and twelve losing two yards.
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  Speaker 3: But throughout the course of a game, you have to
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  Speaker 3: continue to run the football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so there's two players on the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: ers offense and they are sort of devoid of having
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  Speaker 2: a plethora of playmakers on that side of the ball,
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  Speaker 2: like the Eagles do. But you look at Christian McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the league. He's
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  Speaker 2: been such a force as a receiver and a runner.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have George Kittle, who they just got
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  Speaker 2: back against the Seahawks, and he's someone that can make
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  Speaker 2: an impact. Though the Eagles have done a really nice
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  Speaker 2: job against tight ends this season. But I look at
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  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey and his ability in space, and that's where
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  Speaker 2: I believe having someone, i mean potentially like the Kobe
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  Speaker 2: Dean in the game is going to make a world
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  Speaker 2: of a difference versus someone maybe like at Jahad Campbell
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  Speaker 2: because this is all new to Hi him and someone
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  Speaker 2: like a Kyle Shanahan will be able to take advantage.
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  Speaker 2: But being able to bring down Christian McCaffrey in space
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  Speaker 2: is going to be paramount for the Eagles to have
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  Speaker 2: some success and kind of try to put them behind
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  Speaker 2: the sticks early.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna take more than just one person
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  Speaker 3: to bring Christian McCaffrey down, So they're gonna have to get,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: as the old cliche goes, hats to the ball or
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  Speaker 3: helmets to the ball. You're gonna have to have a
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  Speaker 3: gang tackle mentality to get Christian McCaffrey down before he
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: can get started. I mean, this guy, he leads the
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  Speaker 3: team in rushing. I think he's got twelve hundred yards rushing,
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  Speaker 3: ten rushing touchdowns. He leads their team in receiving close
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  Speaker 3: to one thousand yards in receiving with another seven touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this guy is legitimate. He's an All Pro player.
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  Speaker 3: And if you stop him or limit him again, try
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: to limit the yards after catch, the yards after contact,
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  Speaker 3: you have a shot to win. But that's easier said
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  Speaker 3: than done. Everybody knows you have to stop McCaffrey. That's
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  Speaker 3: hard to do, but the Eagles have the defense I
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  Speaker 3: think to do it. And like you said, if Nakobe
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  Speaker 3: Dean plays, I like his physicality. But boy Cooper the
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  Speaker 3: genie is a fantastic tackler too. And you know we've
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: seen him make plays on Derrick Henry. I remember, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the big Diesel getting the ball in open space I
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: think in the game last year and Cooper to Jean's
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: all over him for a three yard loss. So that
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe you put Cooper and you tell him
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  Speaker 3: listen wherever McCaffrey goes on the field, you follow and
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  Speaker 3: you get to him first, and then the rest of
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: you guys follow up and hit McCaffrey two.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this player earlier, but he certainly helped kickstart
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: this Eagles pass rush because it's been a unit that
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: has evolved throughout the season. And that's jaywhen Phillips his
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: ability to set the edge with violence and authority, play
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  Speaker 2: the run, get after the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: You see the length that he has.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: But it's also opened up opportunities for jay loox Hunt,
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  Speaker 2: who leads the Eagles in interceptions and sacks this season.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: It's incredible three interceptions on the season. And then you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: have Nolan Smith and from the interior, Jayalen Carter, Jordan Davis,
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  Speaker 2: Moro Jomo. But for someone like Brock Perdy who can
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: maneuver the pocket a little bit, I think this is
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  Speaker 2: a really good opportunity for the Eagles to get after
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback, but also while staying disciplined in their rush lanes,
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  Speaker 2: because that's the only area where he could kind of
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: hurt you if you get too wide, like the Dallas
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Cowboys did Week one against Jalen Hurts. That's the only
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: thing that I could really see being able to kind
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: of get that offense going from the forty nine ers
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: with Brock Purdy with his legs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think experience is such a big
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: part of the postseason, especially at the quarterback position. We
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: have a couple of quarterbacks in this league that'll be
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: making their first playoff appearance. Brock Perdy is not one
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: of them. He's played six playoff games, He's four and two.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: He's played in a super Bowl. I mean, this matchup
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: between Hurts and Party is pretty fascinating, especially when you
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: consider I think twelve of the quarterbacks in this tournament
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: were first round picks. The only two that weren't were uh,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Perdy and Hurts. Hurts in the second round obviously, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Party mister rebel irrelevant in the seventh round. So and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: they're matching up first weekend. All the other quarterbacks first
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: round picks, not Hurts, not Purty. Jalen Phillips, You're right,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: he's juice. He's brought energy to this to this defense.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Only has two sacks, but what you don't see on
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: the stat sheet is his ability to affect the passer
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: with his rush and open up lanes for other guys
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: like Jalen Carter, perhaps mar Lajomo, Jlex Hunt.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: He's just been tremendous.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I saw a stat I think next Gens stats at
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: it where he's tied for fourth for the most quarterback
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: pressures since Week ten with forty one of them, and
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: he's tied with Miles Garrett, the all time sack leader.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: So that's pretty impressive, and that's something that doesn't show
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: up always on.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: The stat sheet. But Jalen Phillips has helped this defense
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: out tremendously well.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: That's well said.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: It's important to bring that up bed because for as
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: good as the defense has been, where they've had sticking
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: points this season, it's been when they're going up.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Against mobile quarterbacks.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: But I thought they fared well against Josh Allen and
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: later in the season it seems like they got that rectified.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: But it's certainly something that they're gonna have to be
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: mindful of with a forty nine ers offense that absent
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffery and George Kittle don't have a ton there.
• 43:59
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• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Matchups this weekend, and from an NFC playoff picture, let's
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: start with the Rams and Panthers and we'll save the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Eagles forty nine ers for last.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I look at this game.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: You never want to count a team out in the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, but they backed their way in.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: They needed some help.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: And I mean Bryce Young is a young quarterback, Dave
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Canawis is a young coach. They're going up against a
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: juggernaut in Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford. In a course,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: that high octane offense that they have. It's hard for
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: me to see a path where Carolina can make this interesting.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: But you never want to count a team out.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: But I look at this Rams offense with Davante Adams
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and Puka Nakua, and they have a bunch of different
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: bunch of tight ends that they involved in the passing game,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the rushing attack with Kyron Williams and Blake Korum, and
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: it seems to me like this is.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Going to be a game that you can kind of
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: just go chalk here.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Well, you say you can never count a team out. Listen,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I'm counting the Panthers out already.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think they have any business being in this
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: field eight to nine. You know, you have some teams
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: with winning records sitting home. Maybe it's something the NFL
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: revisits in the offseason to do something about that. But
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: the only advantage Carolina might have, Andrew, is the fact
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: that the Rams have to come east, you know, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: that's you know, that's a little one settling sometimes for
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: these teams from the West coming east, playing in a
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: different time zone. But you know, the Rams have done
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: that quite a bit. They're a playoff tested team. They
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: probably have the MVP of the league atterback, Matt Stafford.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: It's just gonna be really, really tough for the Carolina
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Panthers and Bryce Young, who's one of those quarterbacks I mentioned,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: making his first NFL playoff start. It's gonna be a
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: pill climb the whole way.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: To be clear, I'm with you, I expect the Rams
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to win this game, but based off of how everything.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Went this season around the NFL.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be out of the ordinary to see something
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: like that happen where there is a significant upset. But
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna go chalk here. We both are
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: in agreement that the Rams have this one. However, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: game between the Packers and Bears I find to be
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: particularly fascinating because it literally could go either way. I
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: think both teams are relatively balanced. I like the Bears,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if they're quite ready yet. Caleb
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Williams young quarterback Ben Johnson has done a very nice
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: job as a first year head coach. They have some
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: issues on defense, and I don't know they if Caleb
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Williams is gonna be able to meet the moment. You
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: never really know that until they're thrust in the spotlight.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: We know that jaywhen Hurst is a debt of doing it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: We know Matthew Stafford can do it. Brock Purdy has
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: played in the Super Bowl. But Caleb Williams, I think
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: this will be a really good measuring stick type of
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: game for him to see where he is. If nothing else,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: it'll be good experience. Then on the Green Bay Packers side,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I mean losing Micah Parson sucked all the wind out
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: of their sales. It feels like to me they have
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love back Matt Lafleur, but it seems like they're always,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: you know, a seventh seed in the postseason, and I
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: don't quite know what to make.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Of that team. So I kind of have this one
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: as a toss up.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those division battles, you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: kind of a border war type situation. Neither team likes
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: each other much. It was kind of when the Eagles
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: played the Commanders in the NFC Championship Game.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Two NFC East teams.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: You really never know how they're going to turn out. Now,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: you know, the Packers get a second crack at this.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: They should have beat the Bears in their most recent
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: game in Chicago. They had to lead, and you never
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: see you on side kicks work. But you know, Romeo
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Dobbs somehow like mister mcgood. The kick it looked like
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: you didn't even see it and the Bears are covering.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: They end up winning the game.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: So this is a s crack for the Packers to
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: go back and try to fix that mistake. But I
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: just don't like their defense without Michael Parson. I know
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love has that playoff experience. They went to Dallas
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and hammered the Cowboys in
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. Jordan Love led that that slaughter that day,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: and Caleb Williams, you're right, first playoffs start. Another one
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: of those quarterbacks making his first playoff start, and he's
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: about to find out just how different it is in
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. Everything matters, every play matters. Everything's magnified, everything
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: goes a little bit faster, and he's gonna have to
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: slow things down and get into rhythm to find a
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: way to win this game.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: It's gonna it's gonna be a toss up.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: You're right, And if the Bears are able to pull
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: it off and the Eagles take care of business, the
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Eagles will be going to Soldier Field.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: No, right, Well, if the Bears win, the Eagles will
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: go to Soldier Field if the Eagles win, But if
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: the Packers win, the Packers come to Lincoln Financial Field.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: Right, there's the seventh seed.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: The Rams would go to Seattle if the Rams win,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: and the Packers would come here if they beat the Bears.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: So all that angst about not playing your starters against
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: the Commanders may not even come to fruition.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: And they play still get a home game.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: And the Bears Packers played before the Eagles.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: They played the day before, so we get to kind
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: of watch that and see how that all plays out.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Who's your pick from the AFC to go to the
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl?
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: Who are you picking in that game? Though?
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: First Andrew, I'm I'm picking Green Bay. We got time,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: don't worry.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Okay, you're picking I'll.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Up to speed with the clock here.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: All right. Well, I'm going to go with Chicago.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I think Chicago is going to find a way to
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: hold Serve at home, and it's going to be a
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: tight one.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: But I think the Bears get it done, all right.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: So you and I are on the opposite end Z
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: That's all right, yes, But who's your AFC pick for
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: their representative in the Super Bowl?
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: Man, that's a tough one.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: You know, you look at the playoff experience of the
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks and Josh Allen has it. You look around the field,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen's not seeing Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid staring
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: back at him from the other side, So you know
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: that bodes well.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: I think for Buffalo.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: A little question about that defense, though, I think the
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Jaguars might be a little undersold, and I think that's
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: the matchup, right, Bill's go to Jacksonville the six to
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: three game on Sunday, correct, Listen, I think the winner
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: of that game could be the AFC representative in the
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. To be honest with you, that that might
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: be a little outside the box because I don't want
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: to discount the Broncos.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: That's a tough place to play.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Home field advantage, you're playing at altitude, you got to
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: bring the oxygen tanks if.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: You're the visitor.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: And and their defense is phenomenal, and you know, at
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: this point in the season it's usually defenses that win championships.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: But again, bo Nicks his second career start in the playoffs,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: maybe that's a little experience. Hard to pick against the Broncos.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: But there's just something about this Jags team and the
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: way they're playing, and of course Josh Allen finally having
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: a path without the Chiefs sitting in there waiting for him,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: finding a way to maybe.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Get to the Super Bowl.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I'm going with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, now you agree, No, I really like the way
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is playing. He's playing like the quarterback they
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: expected when they drafted him as high as they did.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Think he went won, right, he did?
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Hey, what what?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I can't remember all these years back, but yeah, I
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: mean their defense is playing well. I feel like they're
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: they hit their stride at the right time.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: The AFC is wide open.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Like you said, there's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Kansas
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: City Chiefs that you.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Have to that are sort of like that roadblock.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the Bills have enough there from
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: a defensive perspective to be able to get it done.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And I think in a season, the way that that's calling,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the way that it's gone. I look at the Jaguars
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: and I look at the Houston Texans, I'm leaning towards Jacksonville.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the at least the Jags have a home game.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I think that's pretty important, you know, to get to
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Tough to win three games on the road,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: which the Texans probably would have to do to get to.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: The Super Bowl. And they're young.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: They have a young team and they're young, but boy,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: they're defense again. Defense travels. Defense comes to play when
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: you have a good defense, you have a shot. And
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: and those two teams, the Jags Broncos three teams, I
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: should say, and uh, and the Texans have good defenses.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: All right, Eddie the ka it is the moment of
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: truth Eagles forty nine ers.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I look at this game and look, the forty.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Nine ers are making the trip back to the East.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: That's not gonna be easy. They're depleted defensively, They're down
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: to their bare bones at linebacker. Their secondary has some
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: nice young pieces who I really like, and safety's Jayre
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Brown and Malik Mustafa Diamodoor. Lenoor is a tough competitive corner,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: but I just don't know if they have enough to
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm saying this knowing the Eagles offense hasn't
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: given us a reason to have this kind of blind
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: faith in them. But I do believe that Kevin Patulo,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and that offensive line in particular are going
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: to find a way to get it done, be able
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: to put up some points in this game and take
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: advantage for what feels like could be the first time
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: the season against a defense that's going to give you
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: those opportunities. And then defensively, this feels like a unit
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: that just embraces having that pressure on their shoulders. Jordan
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Davis may have said it best. You know, we're gonna
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: let them figure it out, but we're gonna hold it
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: down until the offense figures it out instead of looking
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: at it from a divisive standpoint.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: They're gonna get after Brock Purdy.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I think they're playing with a lot of confidence on
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: the back end, not having to cover as long. I
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: just I feel like the Eagles win this game. And
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give the score of twenty four to sixteen.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Wow, that's pretty good. Yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think the Eagles need to score thirty points
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: to win this game, you know. I think if they
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: get it into the twenties, they're gonna win. I love
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: the way this defense matches up against the forty nine ers.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I love the lead dog of that offense or that defense.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Vic Fangio, Oh yeah, you know, calling the shots. He's
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: familiar with Kyle Shanahan's offenses. He's played against it a
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: few times. It's been a long time, but I just
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: like the way he has.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: This defense role.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: When Brock Perdy sometimes has a tendency to hold the
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: ball a little bit longer while he scans the field,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: and if the Eagles put pressure on him, they can
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: sack him and you know, maybe they get to him
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: four or five times, beat him up a little bit,
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: make him a little bit more inaccurate as the game
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: goes on. And I think the Eagles will score. I
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: don't think the forty nine ers will. I'm gonna call
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: it twenty three to seventeen birds.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Nice. I like that one.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: All right, we're similar, you said twenty four to sixteen.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Look, we're either gonna look like geniuses or we're gonna
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: look not too bright.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: Ye. Well, the genius thing rarely happens, let's face it out.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: But that was a lot of fun, man. I appreciate
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: you joining me.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: My pleasure anytime.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: That's gonna do it.
• 56:20
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