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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 1_ EPISODE #139_HOST PATRICE GRIMBALL · DA CREW Podcast

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as I tag your hab Hey everyone, this is your girl, Patrese sc
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bookal a four to three grumble and it's another Saturday night, So I know
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y'all know what time it is. Y'all heard Macareless whispers, So you know
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it's time for me to introduce you guys to another author. So me and
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her were chatting before you guys came along, and she got a new book
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coming out. I supposed to be coming out in November and y'all, let
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me tell you something. If you are a fan of Kimberly Robly, and
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if you are a fan of Victoria Christopher Murray, you need to go ahead
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and get your pencil in your paper so you can write down this author and
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all of her titles. Okay, tonight, you guys, we're gonna be
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talking to doctor Velma Bagbee. Okay, she has this book out called The
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Wrong Catch. Now we all have been there before, so she's gonna tell
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us about her characters and how they got it going on. Okay, welcome
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Velma Bagbe. Hey, sweetie, come on up. Thank you for having
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me, Patrees, thank you for being here. So tonight, everyone,
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we are talking contemporary Christian fiction, and the title of the book is called
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The Wrong Catch. But before we go through all of that, how about
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you tell us a little bit about yourself. Hey, everybody, I'm to
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this magnificent host, Patrice, thank you for having me. I am doctor
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Veilma Bagbee. I am an Arthur Award winning author, best selling Arthur as
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well as a dating relationship coach. I'm an our day minister, a pastor's
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wife, and I also own my own PUBLISHINGLC Publishing company. So I'm excited
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to be here. I began writing at the age of sixty two, so
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I'm now sixty nine, so only seven years and I'm working on book seventeen
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shortly, So I'm excited to be here with you all. You look good,
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girl, O good. You got a lot of hats, yes,
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ma'am. How do you keep it all to kill the well? Thankfully?
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Right now, I'm not doing a lot of traveling, a lot of podcasting
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and meeting people like you online, so that helps. Well, you know
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this book now, like I told you so, y'all, I'm gonna tease.
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I got a copy of another one, y'all, I got it.
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But I'm gonna tell you how y'all gonna get it. I'm not gonna be
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steady now you contemporary Christian fiction? Mm hm, tell us a little bit
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about that, okay, Well, based on my introduction, I'm an our
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day minister. I also have my doctorate in theology, so we are trained
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and prepared to expound upon the scripture. Not your opinion, just explain it.
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So when I decided that after thirty years of counseling and meeting with young
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women and older women who were looking for their maids. After thirty years and
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having conversations, I just wanted to begin to address some of the things that
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I saw and heard, and I did not want to take the approach of
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a nonfiction book. So I was questioning whether or not I should switch from
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nonfiction and go into fiction. And that's when I was reminded about the over
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fifty parables that Jesus spoke. They are all fictional parables, their fictional stories,
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and so I said, that's what I wanted to do. I wanted
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to present stories to allow people to see themselves in it, not hit them
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all over the head with the scripture. So take the same approach Jesus did.
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He presented the story. He showed them a way of escape or the
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way out, a redemption plan, whatever was needed, and then he left
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it up to the individual. He didn't stay there and asked them, okay,
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now make a decision. Now. He didn't do that, and I
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was shocked at the response from the readers when they read it and said,
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oh, we need more of these. Because I met the catfish. I
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met this fish. I remember meeting this guy, and so that's how it
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started. So now it's a series and I'm here for it. I am
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still here for it. So why did you want to become an author?
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Like, where'd the author come in with everything? Patrice? That was not
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my clan, But you know my I retired after working thirty eight years as
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a deputy administrator in California in twenty twelve. I did a lot of writing.
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I developed workbooks and training and developed programs and all of that stuff.
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When I retired, that was going to be it for me. But here
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comes my daughters having conversations around their challenges with men and what things they thought
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I should they should look at, and what did the scripture say about the
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process all of that, And we had this conversation and from there they began
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telling their friends. Friends began telling friends, and they kept coming back.
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Look, Mom, they want to know more. We either need to put
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everything we talked about in the book, or you need to do something.
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So my very first book was published based on the conversations we had, so
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it was nonfiction, but it grew from there when I realized I wasn't supposed
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to stop. I needed to keep talking about this same topic and writing about
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it. Well, I know, I appreciate you doing a fiction book.
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They laugh at me at work because when it comes to the fiction section,
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hang out over there, and no, no, you bring me over here
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to the fiction section. I don't want to think too hard. I don't
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want to have some fun. But yeah, all times, when you get
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that book and you're having fun reading it, you're getting so many nuggets from
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it. So from all the fiction readers out there, we personally thank you.
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Challenge, can you describe your book the Wrong Catch that's going to be
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coming out soon in ten words or less? The new one that's due to
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release next month, let's see eye opening? Oh. Men were surveyed for
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content ooh, characters designed around their challenges that they expressed. Okay, so
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I'll stop there, and I was waiting for some more too. I think
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I went over, but yeah, can we get a little bit, just
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a little, but I served a few of the men who have read The
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Catch. Even though I took the approach of designing this story around the character
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Veronica, who was having a hard time based on what her father observed,
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and he knew he had to do some kind of intervention, so he prayed
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and his answer was take her fishing. Use what you know. He's an
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expert at fishing. So I collected information from one of my family members who's
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an expert at fishing. I said, tell me about the fish you enjoy
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catching, and as he began to describe their personality, what it took to
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catch them, the type of bait they liked, the type of day,
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where in the lake you had to find them. It was easy. I
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could easily see which man a male character I would attach to that particular fish,
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so it was easy to create that and create that from there. But
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in the stories, even though it's focused on how this daughter was to change
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her approach and looking for a man, are the man discovering her? It's
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a lot of nuggets in there in terms of what kind of man you should
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be looking for and why we're no longer using our due diligence to discover who
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they are. It's what I call conditions versus characteristics that are positive. Conditions
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are the things we see on the outside. And I described the fact that
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when my husband and I walked down the aisle at the age of twenty,
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you had this beautiful, huge afro. That's a condition. I loved it.
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I love the way he looked, but he doesn't have that anymore.
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We've been married forty nine years that Afro has left the building. And so
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it's an example of how we use the wrong tools when we're trying to explore
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who this person is. We should be getting to the essence of their heart
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and not what's on the outside. Those are conditions, and let me tell
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you all that stuff we're looking at that changes twenty and thirty years down the
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road. So that's the stories I know. I saw one of my high
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school I have my reunion a couple of weeks a live by my high school
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picture and what happened? Woo? Who is you? Like? I said?
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It was like all of different persons. I really do, really do
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understand that in congratulations and much blessing fourteen nine years. Yeah, that is
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beautiful. I know. That was why I didn't want to do this.
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I didn't want to write, but God was pressuring me. He said,
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why do you think you've been blessed with this? I really want to know
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how to get there, how to discover that. And that's the reason again
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for those books. Between my daughter and God pushing this found on my neck,
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saying no, you need to talk about it, you need to share
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it. Yes, God says stop being stingy. I'm not going to So
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what part of the Wrong Catch was the most fun to write? I think
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the most fun to write all of it. All the characters were fun to
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me, all of them. Like I said, hearing about the different fish
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their personality was so fun and easy for me to match a male character with
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a particular fish. And I introduce you to some in the first book.
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There's the catfish, and everybody knows that a catfish is our bottom feeders.
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They hang out at the bottom of the lake, in the mud, in
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the dirt, in the garbage. They eat whatever is dead and smelly that
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comes their way. And so when you think in terms of a man that's
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like that, he is attracted to smelly bait. A woman who smells as
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one who has poor self worth, that's what he's looking for. He'll smell
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the fact that you don't feel good about yourself, that you're worth, you
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don't value yourself. Those are smells to him, and so he'll be attracted
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to that kind of smelliness. Then there's the salmon, and it's interesting how
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women will try to force the salmon into a relationship when the salmon's characteristic is
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that he hates commitment, don't want it, can't make him. He will
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not No matter what you try, what traps you try to lay, he
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is not going to commit. That's a salmon. A salmon will fight the
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fisher person fishing for him and fly out of the water to knock the hook
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out of his mouth. Does not want to commit. The sturgeon fish,
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people who are anglers hate the sturgeon because they can sit there all day trying
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to catch a sturgeon, and the sturgeon has already nibbled off the bait.
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They're sneaky and they love to nibble wherever they go. Then there's the puffer
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fish. And this, again is this example of how we get so caught
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up on conditions. We look at the outside of the person instead of really
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truly examining the heart. Even God says he looks at the heart. I
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said, if God is looking at the heart, what isn't that a clue
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for us? Look there, not out here. So the pop fish is
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described as a fish that has human like eyes, human life face. But
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you agitate that purple fish, that cuteness, that handsomeness goes away, and
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he puffs up three times in size and becomes poisonous, and so he's your
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example of how you get into toxic relationships by looking at what's on the next
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year. And in the story, he's got a lot of money. So
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what's the point. You're attracted to things that don't matter. And so that's
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why these stories are weaved the way they are, because we're looking at the
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wrong thing. Black Diamond, I agree, would you? This is one
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of the viewers said, this is the kind of book I like to read
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when you like all your characters. Look at here Where was you two years
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ago? Man? Oh, one of my dear friends from I think she's
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from South Carolina also she said, look where were you when I dated all
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four of Where were you? When I said, I do you know?
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Yeah? She's out of hers too. Now this one we go back and
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talk about narcissistic men because again we get so attractive with stuff on the outside.
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They got money, they're very successful, and we look at all those
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conditions that don't matter. And so I talk about the trophy fish in here.
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The trophy fish are those fish are part of a multi million dollar business
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and so these are the top of the line. So anglers who go after
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those in a tournament. They're trying to win that money. But these fish,
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they don't want to get caught, and they're gonna fight you tooth and
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nail. They're big and they're massive, and the anglers many times will take
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more than one person trying to catch that one fish. That's how massive they
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are. And so in the book, we talk about these kind of characters.
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We talk about the man who walked around and appeared as if he had
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all this money, but he was riding on the money of his brother,
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who just happened to be in the uh uh a famous football player and happens
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to have money. So he's writing on that and so on the outside he
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looks like he has it all together, but he doesn't have two pennies to
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run together without his brother. You know what you see? You know you're
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already blow my mind, and I'm gonna I'm gonna do my geechee. You
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done blow my mind. Okay, We're gonna take a little break out and
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we're coming back. I'm gonna try to go ahead and get your pencils and
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papers together so you can write down these titles because i I'm gonna be reading
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them. We're gonna take a little break. We'll be back with doctor de
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Velber. Come on back, you guys. Turn off the lights a candle
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tonightlemen, imagine, let's take a shower shower together. I was a Monday.
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You must my dad some wealthy and save ja. Turn off comes girl,
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I'm want to give you a special treatment. I'm so sweet. Turn
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I'm sorry, y'all. Y'all know that's my commercial. Y'all know that's my
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song. I love that commercial, Black Diamond, I love it. I
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love it. So we're back. She done blew off our mind. She
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actually turned on the light because she got oh my gosh, I was sitting
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up here thinking the narcissis yeah, the puffer fish and the salmon. Oh
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yeah, yeah that say you know what. Yeah, I'm sitting up here
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and I'm thinking about just the relationships that I've been in, and I'm like,
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yeah, yeah, so so okay, off stript question. What would
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the right catch be? As in fish wise, who would be be?
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Well, he's in book one because the daughter does do her homework. She
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does takes what her father gives her. After that trip, she recognizes that
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she got out of some very serious issues that she could have gone wrong.
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Had she stayed in any of those relationships. So her father tells her stop
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focusing on him and focus on you, which is the message in all of
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them that a lot of times we blame the guy when it really is us.
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Examine your own heart and make sure you are ready, because that was
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one of the things one of the readers said in reading my advanced copy of
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my new book. She said, I saw myself and I've recognized I wasn't
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even ready for marriage when she got married. And so it really does make
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you stop blaming everybody else and examining your heart. And remember I talked about
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the catfish who loves garbage. If that's the kind of heart you have,
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then you want to take a look at what's there. Because what you want
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to do is put in the work to make sure you're ready to present the
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best version of yourself to that ideal person that you want. And let me
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tell you, he's not going to arrive on a white horse. He is
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not a prince, So this is not a rom com, this is true
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life. He's not coming on a white horse because a white horse represents war,
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just in on a donkey, which represented peace. So you got to
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get that kind of stuff and erase your idea of what he should look like
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and focus on what you should be. And that's what the book does a
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lot. It talks about this is why she missed these signs, and we
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talk about red flags, red stands for r ed, retreat, extremely dangerous,
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and we just ignore them all and what he looks for. I'm sorry
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to interrupt you, but yeah, that is. It says, focus on
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you, not on him. Because when a man findeth, and that's the
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other key, he finds you, not you go out to find him.
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He finds you. And there are some men from my experience who've gotten into
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relationships based on the woman encouraging him. Come on and Mary, let's get
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there. And he began questioning him himself after he got married, wondering if
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he should have waited because he didn't do the chasing she did. And so
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you remove his ability to find what he should find as his ruby. And
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I talk about in the book, even the book that's coming out about the
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man who date the wrong women. If you want a ruby, make sure
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you're at ruby level. And so it's the same for the woman. If
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that's what you want him to find, you need to make sure you get
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that ruby in the water. Who love y'all? I told y'all. So
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this is our segment when we do the fun questions. Now, I do
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not send my authors the fun questions because I like you guys to think off
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your head. Okay. So I have been listening to music today and I
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had the chance to listen well to view the reunion tour of Kirk Franklin.
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Okay, so I have a question. I have a question. I have
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a question. Your main character, let's get his name. What's your main
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male character's name, Pastor Grayson. If we are looking at Christian fiction Christian
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music, who would he be the equivalent to? He would be the equivalent
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to one of the He comes from the seventies era, so he would be
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the equivalent to some one of the gospel most likely Walter Hawkins. My granny
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used to always listen to Walter Hawkins. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm
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getting people mixed up. But wasn't he the one that wrote the song thank
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you Lord for all You've done? Are you done for me? That was
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my mama's song. Yoh, that was my mommy song and my granmy So
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if you had could go back, that would be one. Okay. So
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your female character, what was her name? Her name is Veronica. Now
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she's a millennial, so who would she be? Most likely Kirk Franklin,
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Mary Mary? Okay? I was thinking tam La Man. I know,
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no, Oh, I got that would be Franklin. She gives you okay,
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all right. So when do you play music when you write or do
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you know? I do not. I'm like a quiet and usually like early
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early morning, like four a m. That's my favorite time to write,
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four am to about eight or nine. Oh wow, you you early early
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rides. You go, girl. I see four am a lot because I
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don't sleep. One more question, how did you celebrate the the end of
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your book. I think I fell on the on the carpet and just laid
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out for a minute saying thank you, and then my husband treated me.
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And that's the thing. I had a problem with celebrating an accomplishment, and
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I don't see a lot of authors that do that. Oh yeah, and
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shout out to your husband for taking you out and treating you. So we
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are coming to the end of the show, so you have to give us
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some rundown. I know, right at thirty minutes we going by, so
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quick get to it, and that's what I was telling you, Come on
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back, come on back, you hate the trees. You've got some slots
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open in twenty twenty four, which I am everyone already booking for twenty twenty
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four. So if you want to be on a show, email me Sie
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book gallon friends at gmail dot com or hit me on Facebook, but you
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have to give us your titles where we can follow you. I see that
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you have you're doing virtual book tour, so I am going to make sure
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I share that so they can catch you on other platforms. But go ahead
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and reach out to your readers. How can they do that to you?
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Easy? They can go to my website to doctor Velma. It's doctor Velma
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bagbe dot com and make sure to subscribe because I'm gonna have a lot of
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freebies, and I began celebrating early from my book launch and the day of
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the launch. I'm a giver and I enjoy giving away wonderful prizes. I
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don't give things that I don't like, so I try to give away nice
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things and we're currently designing some things now to surprise those who do subscribe.
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But I'm available on all the social media platforms, so you can reach out
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to me on the Instagram. I'm doctor Velma Bagbee, the author. I'm
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not the author, but author. I'm on Twitter as well as LinkedIn and
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threads on Facebook. All right, do you have a virtual link to your
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services on Sundays? I don't now because we're in the we're in the transition
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stage now. We just recently closed our ministry last year, so we're in
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the transition stage trying to determine where we're being sent and so that's what we're
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in the process of doing. And that's a lot of people are at that
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point. And I think it's the pandemic that really really had everybody all over.
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You're not I've heard about I'm known too personally and I've heard about three
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of them. Yeah, and there was a lot of them. But you
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know what, he's still using you because it's a season. Everything you have
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to talk about. I'm like pulling, like, Okay, that's you.
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That's you. How they say sweep in front of your own front door.
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My front door right now is dirty and I'm going to sweep and it's going
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to be spot Let's all thanks to you, and I thank you, Oh,
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thank you too. I appreciate it. Thank you for one for writing
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this book, two for making it fiction so I'll be able to understand it.
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And three, thank you for coming on my podcast. I'm enjoying it.
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I really enjoyed myself. Thank you for making it fun. Thank you,
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So you guys. Another Saturday night, another new author. You better
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go catch this one. It's called The Wrong Catch and there are three books
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right now and we're going to a four fourth book series. Yep, there
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we go. So she already told you guys. So of course, if
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you ain't catch it, catch the replay. Make sure you got yoursil on
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your pen so you can write it all the time. Also, the new
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issue of Aspirers Authors Magazine is out. We have it on Blurb and I'm
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not mistaken. I think we're on Amazon. Yes, we're on Amazon.
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So make sure you catch your copy and see everything in it, because you
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know what you might can be on the cover too. We you know you
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need to go ahead and tell us so we can help you do your brand.
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Okay you guys again, thank you, Thank you. Another Saturday night
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in the books. You guys, have a blessed evening, and I'll see
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you next matter of fact. I'm a thank you for joining us tonight.
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We hope you found a new book to read or a new author to explore.
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