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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, June 8 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with
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Speaker 1: to the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, June eighth.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick with NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks and
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Speaker 1: the above. Bucky, he loves it all. Oh, look I
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Speaker 1: like that. I didn't know what he looked it. I'll
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Speaker 1: start dropping comments since he likes constructed, maybe dropping nugget
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Speaker 1: into like, hey man, I really like this but maybe
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Speaker 1: I can get a little more the more visibility. Made
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Speaker 1: a good job on this. Yeah, he really responds well
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Speaker 1: to that. I love people. You are a people person.
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Speaker 1: If you're anything at all, you are a people person.
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Speaker 1: All right? Oh, t a s winding down this week.
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Speaker 1: We saw Monday's practice Georgan Smith went off with a
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Speaker 1: knee issue. C J. Bethid reportedly with a growing issue.
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Speaker 1: But I actually saw him walking around the building earlier today,
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Speaker 1: which is a good thing because they had to lift
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Speaker 1: it up. Four guys had to lift it up and
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Speaker 1: put him on the cart because he's walking on one leg.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't hopping, I'll say that, but it was good
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Speaker 1: to see considering that the sight we saw on Monday.
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Speaker 1: But Bucky, when when that starts to happen, when guys
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Speaker 1: start going down in non contact situations, that can I've
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Speaker 1: I guess, lack for lack of a better term, start
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Speaker 1: scaring the heck out of your coaching staff and the
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Speaker 1: people in the building, right, I mean, let's get these
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Speaker 1: guys off the field and and just get to the
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Speaker 1: training camp. Yeah, there there is uh some worries that
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Speaker 1: come along with when you start getting injuries at this
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Speaker 1: part of the off season program, you do want to
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Speaker 1: kind of, hey, maybe we need to get them off
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Speaker 1: the field and get them to training camp healthy and
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Speaker 1: those things. Have we done enough work? Uh? Do we
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Speaker 1: feel like we've gotten accomplished where we want to get
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Speaker 1: acomplis into the off season. If so, then yeah, some injuries, uh,
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Speaker 1: particularly some serious injuries can make you kind of re
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Speaker 1: evaluate where you are the postseason and maybe you cut
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Speaker 1: a short Bucky, you were here last week. Um, I
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Speaker 1: didn't really see them doing anything. I mean to me,
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Speaker 1: they were going through normal O t A Uh, normal
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Speaker 1: mini camp practices. I guess to your point a little bit,
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Speaker 1: there wasn't very much they could do to pull back
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Speaker 1: and still have an effective practice. It looked like they
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Speaker 1: were just going without ads. You've got to go on
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Speaker 1: some level of intensity or or you get nothing out
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Speaker 1: of the things. Uh. And really they had two injuries
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Speaker 1: on that one day, and they were both, from what
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Speaker 1: I observed, pretty flukey. I don't you know. I think
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Speaker 1: as much as I would enjoy the end of O
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Speaker 1: T A S, I think you have to be careful
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Speaker 1: not to be you know, if you've got work to do,
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Speaker 1: you still have to go do it. If you're a coach, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you still gotta go do it, and you can't necessarily
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Speaker 1: live in a fearful world. What you want to do
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Speaker 1: is you want to be smart. You want to make
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Speaker 1: sure that you're doing everything that you need to do
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Speaker 1: to kind of make sure that you get your full
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Speaker 1: roster to training camp healthy and ready to go. And
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Speaker 1: you kind of want to do the same thing once
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Speaker 1: you're in training camp. You want to do the necessary
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Speaker 1: work to kind of harden the team, make sure that
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Speaker 1: they're executing at a high level. But the ultimate goal
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Speaker 1: for everybody is to get the week one healthy and
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Speaker 1: ready to rock, because it's a long season and what
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Speaker 1: you don't want to do is lose uh, He contributors
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Speaker 1: along the way. So as the fine line that coaches
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Speaker 1: have to kind of balance until between of working the
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Speaker 1: team hard, working the team smart enough that you make
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Speaker 1: sure that your guys are gonna be available. Let's hear
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Speaker 1: from Doug Peterson. He was asked, you know, how is
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Speaker 1: the installation of his program going, just the building itself
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Speaker 1: so far in this offseason, and what is the next step.
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Speaker 1: The next phase obviously is the pads and and the
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Speaker 1: physicality and and and how how I handle and transition
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Speaker 1: to training camp. You know, but I think this offseason
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Speaker 1: was was a success for us um and a success
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Speaker 1: for me from the standpoint of just having the number
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Speaker 1: of guys here in attendance and the excitement and the
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Speaker 1: enthusiasm that's in the building and and um, you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's it's the team's in a good place. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're throwing a lot at him in all three phases. Mentally,
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Speaker 1: they're being you know, able to handle that right now.
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Speaker 1: And we're getting a lot of great looks from our defense.
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Speaker 1: So is a lot of good film that we can
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Speaker 1: study as we as we transition into training camp. But
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Speaker 1: that's really the next phase now, is as we get
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Speaker 1: into camp. So, Bucky, if you could what is a
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson physicality level of training camp? Feel like, look,
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Speaker 1: it would be really physical. That the first part of it,
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Speaker 1: you know, Like it's funny because Andy Reid and those
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Speaker 1: guys are kind of known for having these offenses that
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Speaker 1: are creative. But both of these guys, Andy Reid and
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson believe in the physicality that is necessary to
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Speaker 1: get your team ready to play. And so I would
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Speaker 1: expect the first week or two that you'll see the
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Speaker 1: past popping. Um. You see him get after it full practice,
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Speaker 1: like fully padded practices, maybe on back to back days
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Speaker 1: and those things. You'll see them tackle to the ground
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Speaker 1: some and have um some live periods because one thing
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Speaker 1: about football, you can't get ready to play football until
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Speaker 1: you play football, and so you gotta play enough to
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Speaker 1: kind of get your body ready to deal with contact
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Speaker 1: and to do all those other things. So it's not
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Speaker 1: a shock to the system when you're starting the regular season.
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Speaker 1: But he'll be some are with it. But I would
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Speaker 1: expect the first two two and a half weeks would
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Speaker 1: be a bit of the grind before he begins to
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Speaker 1: kind of pull back and we'll see some of the
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Speaker 1: things that we saw him do in the off season.
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Speaker 1: It's funny JP a lot of those guys who have
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Speaker 1: the player coach reputation. Um, if you talk to the
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Speaker 1: players who play for him, they'll sometimes laugh and say,
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Speaker 1: you think he's a player's coach. Go over the first
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Speaker 1: couple weeks of training camp. Tony Dungey was the same
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Speaker 1: way the players coach, right. If you talk to those guys,
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Speaker 1: first couple weeks of cold straining camp when I was
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Speaker 1: covering him. Maybe not the the incredible level of contact,
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Speaker 1: but he ran him. Now he was a dB and
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Speaker 1: and those guys ran and ran and ran. Uh. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: people thought too much, so Bucky. Sometimes those ex players,
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Speaker 1: you know, they have the respect to players and they're
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Speaker 1: gonna and they're gonna be smart once the preseason gets there.
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Speaker 1: But they also understand, especially the older guys, they believe
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Speaker 1: you got a hit to get ready. Like you said,
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Speaker 1: so Dougs the players coach, but he does believe in that. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Then the one thing that he has the advantage of
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Speaker 1: because there's so many former players on the staff, they
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Speaker 1: all can also understand, hey, we gotta get ready to play,
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Speaker 1: and there's there's a certain way of mythology that you
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Speaker 1: have to follow to get ready to play. And so
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Speaker 1: if you want to be a physical team, if we're
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Speaker 1: going to kind of fancy ourselves as being the bullies
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Speaker 1: on the block where you gotta knock people around, and
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Speaker 1: you gotta get used to knocking people around because that's
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Speaker 1: the style that we want to put on tape, that's
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Speaker 1: the style that we want to play with because that
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Speaker 1: gives us an advantage. And so you have to establish
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Speaker 1: that earlier you gotta establish the brand. You know, the
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Speaker 1: brand is toughness, effort, all of that stuff, and then
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Speaker 1: you scale it back and you begin to kind of
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Speaker 1: here to some of the you know, the new school
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Speaker 1: protocols when it comes to getting your players ready, how
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Speaker 1: to get them the game day feeling like they're fresh
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Speaker 1: and ready to go, but they have to they have
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Speaker 1: to kind of battle it out. They have to go
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Speaker 1: through some hard stuff to get ready to be able
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Speaker 1: to play the way that they want to play in
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Speaker 1: the regular season. About and it isn't necessarily a Jaguar
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Speaker 1: specific question, but I'm interested in your take because you
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Speaker 1: played in an era that I would still consider old school.
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Speaker 1: I would I would consider the mid nineties still it
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Speaker 1: was pre the new CB A certainly um but with
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Speaker 1: such a limited amount of opportunity to tackle until the
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Speaker 1: regular season begins. I mean, it's unbelievable really that these
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Speaker 1: guys play a sport that is tackle football and have
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Speaker 1: really an incredibly small number of times they can actually hit.
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Speaker 1: In your view, haven't seen the arc of the last
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Speaker 1: maybe thirty years the NFL. Is it a less physical
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Speaker 1: game once they get to the regular season out? Has
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Speaker 1: that all changed? That in your view. Uh, the rules
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Speaker 1: have changed some of the physicality and legislated some of
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Speaker 1: the big hitting out but you at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, JP and John, the teams that Boyster Trophy
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Speaker 1: at the end are the teams that are rough and
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Speaker 1: rugg it. Because when we think about playoff football and
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Speaker 1: how playoff football has to be played when everything is
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Speaker 1: on the line, you have to be a physical team.
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Speaker 1: It's hard for it for next team to kind of
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Speaker 1: walk the gauntlet to be able to make it to
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Speaker 1: the end. And so what you can do, though, is
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Speaker 1: you can do it in a different way to get
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Speaker 1: the physicals work that you need to be done. So
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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to be in four pass, but
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Speaker 1: you can have your upper zone show to pass and
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Speaker 1: helmets and thud up. You can do all of these
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Speaker 1: things and use all the apparatus that's out there. The
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Speaker 1: donuts we've seen, the remote tackling dummies and all those things.
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Speaker 1: You still can get on those to get the contact
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Speaker 1: that you need to get done without it necessarily accounting
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Speaker 1: as a full contact day. But the best teams the
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Speaker 1: teams that tackle the best of the teams that tackle
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Speaker 1: every day, and so you have to find a way
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Speaker 1: to do that and do it, and maybe a non
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Speaker 1: traditional way. But I would expect to see a team
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Speaker 1: that wants to play physical, that wants to tackle, well,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna tackle every day. And I will say this,
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Speaker 1: the teams that have maybe a little more edge to
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Speaker 1: them when it comes to the physicality and practice, there's
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Speaker 1: a confidence that comes with that on game day if
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Speaker 1: it's done the right way. Hey man, we work harder,
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Speaker 1: we're physical, so when we play on Sundays, we're going
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Speaker 1: to impose our will on the other team because they
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Speaker 1: don't work like we work and they don't pound it
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Speaker 1: like we pounded JP. You've been known to thud up
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Speaker 1: sometimes in the morning before you kind of it's my favorite. Yea.
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Speaker 1: It is funny though, like if if you let's say
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Speaker 1: you went into a coma in ninety eight you're a
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Speaker 1: football fan and all you remembered was the seven man
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Speaker 1: sled and like full contact two to day practices. You
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Speaker 1: woke up in two with all these robotic tackling dummies,
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Speaker 1: controls and doughnuts and drones, and like, what is going
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Speaker 1: It's a totally different world. Now they've used the technology
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Speaker 1: to uh, you know, since they've changed some of the rules.
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Speaker 1: The technology helps out to your point there, Bucky, it's
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Speaker 1: just a totally different world than it was forty years ago. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: totally different world. But you know, I still believe that
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Speaker 1: old school wins out. And I think one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons why you hear Doug talk about physical, physical practices
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Speaker 1: is because he knows. He knows that you have to
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Speaker 1: have that. And then also know this, Doug play for
11:14
Speaker 1: Don Shula. If you know anything about Don Shula and
11:17
Speaker 1: what Don Shula was, just look at America's game back,
11:19
Speaker 1: not when he was old Don Shula, but look at
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Speaker 1: those seventies teams that he had with Larry's lock in
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Speaker 1: that and all the conditioning and the physicality and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. Well, Doug played for that guy when they
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Speaker 1: didn't have all of these light days and stuff kind
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Speaker 1: of legislated into it. So I think he's seen the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Huddle Up Podcast J P. Shadwick
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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks and John Osher. But Daily's Place schedule
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Speaker 1: is red hot. John. The last two nights, Dave Matthews band,
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Speaker 1: dot com. Bucky, you missed, Dave Matthews Man, you came
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Speaker 1: a week early. Ah Man, you know, like I have
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Speaker 1: regrets about that, Like I should have done a better
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Speaker 1: job with my itinery. We read the schedule on the
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Speaker 1: show every week. I don't know what happened. I got okay,
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Speaker 1: so like like I got confused because like I was
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Speaker 1: so enamored with the tacos and margaritas that anything that
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Speaker 1: was after that was like Charlie Brown's teacher wah wah
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Speaker 1: wah wah wah. Because all I could focus on was
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Speaker 1: just the tacos and margarita, So I didn't even listen
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Speaker 1: and put in my calendar with Dave Matthews come to us,
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Speaker 1: I have to catch him on the next go round.
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Speaker 1: I had to get him on the next go round.
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Speaker 1: The margaritas are pretty good, by the way. For the record,
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Speaker 1: I'll bet yeah, well, you trained hard for that one,
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Speaker 1: so you're ready, y, you're ready, getting ready? You don't
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Speaker 1: have to get ready? Yeah, never said that. You were
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Speaker 1: not prepared for that? And uh, what was Dave matthews
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Speaker 1: best song? What would you say? I think he played
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Speaker 1: that one on Monday. I wasn't Monday, I was. That's
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Speaker 1: the only Dave Matthew song I can tell you. That's
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Speaker 1: a pretty big one. Yeah, I guess that right. All right?
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Speaker 1: He finished with Aunt's Marching last night. That's a good one.
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Speaker 1: And you gotta you're gonna close with the Dave Matthew song.
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Speaker 1: That's the one that's probably means it's his show, he
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Speaker 1: can close with it. But yes, it was. It was
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Speaker 1: very nice. So it was good to have him in town.
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Speaker 1: For two days at Daily's place. Let's hear from Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and earlier this week, the Jaguars quarterback was asked
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Speaker 1: again about the amount of coaches around found him around
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Speaker 1: the quarterback room, quarterback coachesistant quarterback coach, offensive coordinator, the
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Speaker 1: head coach all have input to this offense and how
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Speaker 1: challenging is that communication. Everybody's on the same page, which
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Speaker 1: is which is good. I think the way they built
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Speaker 1: the staff is everyone has a similar you know, not
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Speaker 1: not everyone's gonna think the same Obviously, you need that
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Speaker 1: diversity to be able to put you in the best
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Speaker 1: position to win. But everyone's in the same page and
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Speaker 1: you can tell it's it's very seamless. And also too,
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Speaker 1: it's when people talk, it's not everyone trying to say
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Speaker 1: their opinion, you know, it's kind of people pick and choose.
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Speaker 1: And I think they do a good job of communicating beforehand,
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Speaker 1: so when we get into meetings, they kind of know
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Speaker 1: exactly what they're all thinking and they're on the same page. Definitely.
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Speaker 1: The collaboration is it's a lot more voices, which is
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Speaker 1: which is great. Um, And like I said, they just
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Speaker 1: do such a good job of communicating It's never not
14:51
Speaker 1: many situations where guys aren't on the same page and
14:54
Speaker 1: where they're disagreeing and thinking two different things. Obviously, we
14:57
Speaker 1: have a lot of great conversation of what's what's the
14:59
Speaker 1: best what's the best idea for that particular situation, But um,
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Speaker 1: a lot of communication, which is really good. Well, that's
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Speaker 1: relieving to hear Bucky was all those voices and former
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Speaker 1: head coaches and current head coaches in the room. There's
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Speaker 1: gonna be one message for the quarterback. Yeah. No, I
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Speaker 1: think that speaks to the organization and a good job
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Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson has done making sure that there's one
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Speaker 1: voice in one vision for how this offense is going
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Speaker 1: to operate. It's really important that every message that Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence gets is a consistent message. Uh. To me, that's
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you do in the planning
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Speaker 1: before we get to the off season. Coaches, this is
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Speaker 1: what we're going to emphasize, this is what we believe in.
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Speaker 1: Here's how we're going to approach it each and every
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Speaker 1: step of the way. Um, if there any questions, let's
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Speaker 1: make sure that we get together, we talk about it,
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Speaker 1: and then whatever the decision that is made in the
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Speaker 1: meeting room is the one that we're going with, and
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Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we don't talk about
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Speaker 1: whether we like it or we don't like it. It
15:54
Speaker 1: is a Jaguars decision, and once we make that, the
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Speaker 1: quarterback gets exactly how we talked about saying that it
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Speaker 1: was gonna be done in the meeting. I think that
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Speaker 1: speaks volumes that Trevor Lawrence is already conveying that, and
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Speaker 1: I think it also lets us know how he might
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Speaker 1: have received mixed messages last year which may have impacted
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Speaker 1: the way that he played as a rookie. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: got to think and Bucky can speak to this as well.
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Speaker 1: It's got to help that the main voice, the big
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Speaker 1: guy in the room is Doug Peterson, and out of
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Speaker 1: all these ex offensive coordinators, he's an ex offensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: X head coach. He'll be calling the plays. Um. I
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Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt when Peterson, Mike McCoy, Jim
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Speaker 1: Bob coonter Uh Press Taylor or in a room, I
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Speaker 1: doubt there's any doubt about who's in charge and whose
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Speaker 1: voice it is, and whose vision is it it is.
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Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to what Bucky said, the
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Speaker 1: fact that it's Doug Peterson, the fact that it's his
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Speaker 1: vision for how the communication is going to go. I
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Speaker 1: just gotta think it helps to the head guy as
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Speaker 1: the guy who's also calling plays actually setting the vision.
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Speaker 1: If it was a defensive guy as the head coach
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Speaker 1: who was saying, hey, you guys, just figure it out,
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Speaker 1: maybe it's a little different, Bucky. I don't know. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're right, Um, if it was a defensive guy, if
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Speaker 1: it was someone who wasn't intimately involved with the offense, like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you probably could hear um fraid messages going to the
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Speaker 1: quarterback because you have people kind of uying for that
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Speaker 1: spot in terms of like who is the guy that's
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Speaker 1: in charge of the offense and and the vision and
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Speaker 1: those things. But because this is Doug Peterson's baby, yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's one vision. If he is calling the plays like
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Speaker 1: we're assumed that he's going to do, he's going to
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Speaker 1: want the quarterback to see the game a certain way.
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Speaker 1: And I just think it's a really good job that
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Speaker 1: when you bring all of these minds in because we
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Speaker 1: don't talk enough about Jim, Bob Cooterer, Um, Mike McCoy,
17:48
Speaker 1: Press Taylor All those guys with experiences. I think all
17:53
Speaker 1: of those guys have called plays, if I'm not mistaken,
17:57
Speaker 1: And so everybody may want to put like they're they're
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Speaker 1: sprinkle on top of the cupcake. But Doug Peters has
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Speaker 1: done a good job of making sure that a here's
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Speaker 1: the way that we wanted to go, and this is
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Speaker 1: the way that it needs to be done. You know
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Speaker 1: Mike McCoy better than I do Bucky, but um I
18:11
Speaker 1: talked to him maybe twenty minutes earlier this offseason. There's
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Speaker 1: an ego lists approach that he has now, maybe because
18:18
Speaker 1: he's been a head coach, he's been an offensive coordinator.
18:21
Speaker 1: You don't get the impression that he's trying to vive
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Speaker 1: for a job, or or or vibe for say, or
18:28
Speaker 1: trying to prove himself in this regard beyond just trying
18:31
Speaker 1: to make Trevor better. So I have not had a
18:33
Speaker 1: chance to talk to Jim Bob Cooter. I'm assuming the
18:36
Speaker 1: same approach. But I think if you had a younger
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Speaker 1: guy in the quarterback coach position who was twenty five
18:45
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, I've got to get to the top,
18:47
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Mike McCoys mailed it in, but he's
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Speaker 1: not at a point where he necessary he has the
18:53
Speaker 1: experience to know what his role is rather than Okay,
18:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use this as a platform as a jumping point,
18:59
Speaker 1: Bill Leucas resume. Yeah, so I think I've got to
19:02
Speaker 1: think that helps in the dynamic. Probably one reason Doug
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Speaker 1: felt so comfortable with it. Yeah, I think it absolutely
19:08
Speaker 1: is is that in terms of what your observation is,
19:12
Speaker 1: what your senses. In terms of Mike McCoy, one, I
19:15
Speaker 1: would say from the first time that I met him,
19:16
Speaker 1: like we all were on the package together. Uh, Doug,
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Speaker 1: Mike McCoy and myself, we were all dead together. Mike
19:22
Speaker 1: McCoy was the practice could quarterback. I was playing ward
19:24
Speaker 1: receiver time he stowing me the ball. And so the
19:26
Speaker 1: same guy that you're seeing in in the halls and
19:29
Speaker 1: Jaguar Stadium is the same guy that I remember and
19:32
Speaker 1: then watching him we worked together with the Carolina Panthers.
19:35
Speaker 1: He was the quarterback coach working under Dan Henning, saying
19:38
Speaker 1: eagle list approach didn't change when he became a play
19:41
Speaker 1: caller and then a head coach, and so he gets it,
19:43
Speaker 1: and I think at this stage of his coaching career.
19:46
Speaker 1: It is about pouring into Trevor Lawrence and making Trouble
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Speaker 1: Lawrence the best player that he can be. Because whether
19:54
Speaker 1: he had aspirations or not, maybe getting another bite of
19:57
Speaker 1: the apple, it doesn't really matter because if ever plays
20:00
Speaker 1: well and the team plays well, we all know that
20:03
Speaker 1: the coaching staff gets credit, and out of that credit
20:06
Speaker 1: comes opportunity. And so if he does a great job
20:09
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, who knows what it will lead to,
20:11
Speaker 1: not only for him but for Jim, Bob Cool, Press
20:13
Speaker 1: Taylor and everyone else associated with the offensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball, and not JP what Bucky And it was
20:20
Speaker 1: humble enough not to say that it was Bucky Brooks's
20:23
Speaker 1: and Mike McCoy's Green Bay Packers, not Bred, not Reggie White,
20:29
Speaker 1: none of those guys. I mean, like we played That's right.
20:34
Speaker 1: We played a vital role in our in our parts
20:37
Speaker 1: as backups to make sure that those guys were ready
20:39
Speaker 1: to go. So yeah, without us, there would be no them.
20:44
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Somebody long ago, and he bought in.
20:47
Speaker 1: He's a team player, that Bucky Brooks. We like to
20:51
Speaker 1: have him around, all right. So let's going up this week.
20:54
Speaker 1: Oh you got the podcast. Yeah, we will have this week.
20:58
Speaker 1: Uh race on Jenkins on the podcast and uh he
21:02
Speaker 1: was good. He isn't is an interesting story that he
21:04
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about last year. He came in
21:07
Speaker 1: a sort of the high profile free agent guy. Uh.
21:10
Speaker 1: Now he didn't say this, but almost a little bit
21:13
Speaker 1: forgotten because he's not like the main guy. He wasn't
21:17
Speaker 1: on He wasn't on the podium, wasn't in a press
21:18
Speaker 1: conference this year. But I think still a pretty important
21:21
Speaker 1: piece of the defense. Uh still needs to play the
21:25
Speaker 1: level that they thought he would play when he came in.
21:27
Speaker 1: Uh hurt last year, said he's not worried about coming
21:30
Speaker 1: back a pretty significant ankle injury. Broken ankle, not really right, So, uh,
21:35
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. I enjoyed the interview. Let's coming up to Thursday,
21:38
Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday, whenever you decided that's right. Okay, it'll
21:42
Speaker 1: be on the official jack Horse podcast network. Bucky, what
21:45
Speaker 1: are you working on these days? Man? Just getting ready,
21:48
Speaker 1: getting ready for the little break that we're gonna take.
21:51
Speaker 1: So normally when we take a break in NFL action
21:53
Speaker 1: with no O, T A S and stuff like that,
21:55
Speaker 1: then it's time for me to kind of get an
21:57
Speaker 1: early peak at the class of prospect. You just see
22:01
Speaker 1: who could becoming Bucky just saying he was getting he's
22:05
Speaker 1: getting ready for time off. So he's he's prepping for
22:10
Speaker 1: his time off. That's basically time off. I mean, you
22:14
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta prep you gotta prep for time off.
22:16
Speaker 1: Like it's very important that everything is about preparation. Everything
22:20
Speaker 1: is about preparation. You know. That was a great answer.
22:23
Speaker 1: That's right. Did you prep to prep for the time off?
22:26
Speaker 1: How how far can you push this? Because I like
22:28
Speaker 1: that attitude. Well, you know, like all those things. I mean,
22:31
Speaker 1: like let's just say, for instance, you're gonna take like
22:33
Speaker 1: a little beach vacation. You guys are down there, like
22:36
Speaker 1: you know, you want to get ready to enjoy the beach,
22:39
Speaker 1: and so that may require you to go and see, Hey,
22:41
Speaker 1: which boy shots do I want to put in the suitcase?
22:45
Speaker 1: Where the best places to eat, like we talked about
22:47
Speaker 1: tacos and margarita is like, is there a spurting spot
22:49
Speaker 1: where I can get maybe some table side guak to
22:52
Speaker 1: go at the drink of choice beside, mean, all of
22:54
Speaker 1: those things, like it all, it's all a part of it.
22:58
Speaker 1: John Starring food. Yeah, and it's aspiring food. I'm always
23:03
Speaker 1: looking for the nice spots. He's not a fly by
23:06
Speaker 1: the seat of his pants traveler. It sounds like to me,
23:08
Speaker 1: he's gotta he's gonna an agenda. He sticks to the program.
23:12
Speaker 1: He's not going some side road. No no, no, We're
23:14
Speaker 1: we're staying on the map. We're staying on time. That's
23:20
Speaker 1: Bucky Hey coming up Happy Hour on Thursday on Tintin
23:24
Speaker 1: x l A M. Josh Allen joins us in studio
23:27
Speaker 1: Jaguars outside Linebacker. We'll get his thoughts on going into
23:31
Speaker 1: season number four and they've just extended him. Didn't extend him.
23:36
Speaker 1: They gave him the fifth year option a little while back,
23:38
Speaker 1: so he's locked and ready to go with the Jacks
23:41
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years at least. That's all
23:43
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