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The Andre Gower Squadcast · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: I myself am strange and unusual.
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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian and
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  Speaker 6: we are coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 6: Louisville Supercon right here in the, where are we going
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  Speaker 6: to be?
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  Speaker 1: The Kentucky International Convention Center.
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  Speaker 6: That thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In scenic downtown Louisville.
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  Speaker 6: Scenic looking over that Mexican place I ate yesterday. And
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  Speaker 6: joining me this week is.
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  Speaker 1: George Buehler, the WBKI fanatic.
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  Speaker 6: So, we are back again. As previously mentioned last week,
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  Speaker 6: I also had another interaction and it turned out pretty great.
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  Speaker 6: I have to say, as I was wandering around, I
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  Speaker 6: ran into several people that I knew just in general and...
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  Speaker 6: One of them, actually a previous co-host from our forecast episode.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 6: But we were just kind of standing there talking and
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  Speaker 6: he was like, you know, just sort of general. He
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  Speaker 6: was like, so what's your favorite thing going on this weekend?
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, without missing a beat, I was like,
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  Speaker 6: my discussion with Andre Gower is like right up there.
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  Speaker 6: Like it is, it's one of those I kind of
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  Speaker 6: had a good feeling. I've been watching because once I
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  Speaker 6: saw the first promo for the documentary, I was like. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: this is cool and this is a cool idea and
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  Speaker 6: a very different perspective. And that's what got me into it.
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  Speaker 6: And then like what little I'd seen of him, you know, as,
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  Speaker 6: as a guy out there and, and he's like, he's,
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  Speaker 6: he's got a pretty interesting like take on, on dealing
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  Speaker 6: with social media. And he's got a, he's got a
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  Speaker 6: Twitter feed and he's got, you know, some, he's like,
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  Speaker 6: he's sort of putting himself out there as himself. And
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  Speaker 6: I always kind of appreciate people that seem pretty interactive and,
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  Speaker 6: and seem like they're actually like, a real person as
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  Speaker 6: opposed to like someone else running your Twitter feed.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But like, he seemed like a pretty good guy. So
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, let's, let's throw it out there
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  Speaker 6: and see what we can put together. And it fell
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  Speaker 6: right into place. Let's just say that it's one of those.
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  Speaker 6: I can tell sometimes when I, when I sit down
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  Speaker 6: with somebody and be like, okay. like many of our
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  Speaker 6: other interviews, am I going to wrap this up in
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  Speaker 6: five minutes? And then I can see he just falls
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  Speaker 6: right into the same dumb mode that I do every week,
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  Speaker 6: which is just talking extensively about the movies and the
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  Speaker 6: whole entertainment industry. And like, so like we just kind
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  Speaker 6: of fall into that groove and it's the whole episode.
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  Speaker 6: So it's, it's, It's right up there. It is one
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  Speaker 6: of my favorite discussions. That's fantastic. And the other thing
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  Speaker 6: that's cool is in the meantime, after... Because that was
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  Speaker 6: right before they were going to do the showing of
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  Speaker 6: the movie.
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  Speaker 1: They brought the documentary out.
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  Speaker 6: They brought the... Well, fans got nards. They brought that,
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  Speaker 6: which is a classic title for any film.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Certainly fitting of this one. But they brought it to
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  Speaker 6: the convention. And that was one of the other reasons
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  Speaker 6: I was really excited to come to this. Because I've been...
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  Speaker 6: i've been kind of waiting to see if if i
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  Speaker 6: was gonna have to hit like a film festival to
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  Speaker 6: see it because i knew it already had made a
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  Speaker 6: pretty good tour and it hadn't gotten close to me
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  Speaker 6: so i was like okay great they're bringing the movie
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  Speaker 6: so i can see it so i did after we
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  Speaker 6: wrap up here i did go and see it and
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  Speaker 6: it's amazing like it's really it's as he kind of
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  Speaker 6: pitches like he didn't want it to be nothing but
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  Speaker 6: a love letter he wanted to make a real movie
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  Speaker 6: of like what is it about people and how they
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  Speaker 6: connect with the movie that they, you know, they have
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  Speaker 6: some sort of, well, I mean, they have some sort
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  Speaker 6: of favorite movie. So they start off not even specifically
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  Speaker 6: talking about monster squad. It's just the way people sort
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  Speaker 6: of connect with a specific film. And then the further
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  Speaker 6: you get into it, there's just more and more people
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  Speaker 6: that are just like, this was my movie. This was
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  Speaker 6: my childhood. Like this, I'm one of these misfit kids.
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  Speaker 6: And this was one of the few things I ever
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  Speaker 6: found that made me feel at home. Like I, I
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  Speaker 6: took to this movie, in a weird personal way and
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  Speaker 6: like you start getting these stories and it really like
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  Speaker 6: some of them are celebrity interviews and then some of
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  Speaker 6: them are just him finding the fans as they kind
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  Speaker 6: of toured around doing kind of when the when the
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  Speaker 6: movie got a good you know blu-ray and started getting
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  Speaker 6: a dvd release and they started touring around with it
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  Speaker 6: and he started meeting all these fans and like that's
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  Speaker 6: the part that's really interesting is seeing They work in
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  Speaker 6: these great, like, in between, they'll have it kind of
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  Speaker 6: segmented off when you're watching Wolfman's Got Nards. He breaks
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  Speaker 6: it up into segments. And each one starts off with
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  Speaker 6: this great fan art. And I'm like, that's the level.
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  Speaker 9: Like, when you've got people creating new.
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  Speaker 6: Works of art about your work of art.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I love.
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  Speaker 6: That's the geeks. Just the levels of geekdom just stacked
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  Speaker 6: on top of each other. When you've got people making
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  Speaker 6: this great artwork. as a tribute to your artistic endeavor. Like,
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  Speaker 6: that's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That's where it's at, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's worth going to see just for the artwork and
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  Speaker 6: for the other people that love the movie probably as
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  Speaker 6: much as you do. I mean, it has found a
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  Speaker 6: weird fan base over the years.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I referenced last episode how there's like
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  Speaker 10: a short list of films that I grew up with
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  Speaker 10: in the 70s and 80s, and The Monster Squad is
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  Speaker 10: definitely very high up on that list.
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  Speaker 1: God, I love that movie.
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  Speaker 6: And again, it's great to find somebody that you kind
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  Speaker 6: of connect with. And Andre was one of those people.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm hoping we cross over again and he
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  Speaker 6: can just come hang out and talk about some other movie.
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  Speaker 6: Because I already just threw the invite out there like
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  Speaker 6: I normally do. Like, okay, we're hanging out talking about
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  Speaker 6: a movie that you did. Now let's just go hang
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  Speaker 6: out and talk about movies.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I already want to go.
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  Speaker 1: Down that road.
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  Speaker 6: So open invite for him. But, yeah, it's a great discussion,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm pretty proud of it. So let's just take
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  Speaker 10: And now, on with the show.
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  Speaker 2: Ever since I could remember, everything inside of me just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to fit in.
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  Speaker 10: I was never one for pretenders.
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  Speaker 1: Everything I tried to be just wouldn't settle in.
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  Speaker 4: I told you.
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  Speaker 1: What I was. Would you turn your back on me?
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  Speaker 1: And if I seem dangerous, would you be scared?
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  Speaker 2: Enough that this problem lies in me. I'm different from
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  Speaker 2: the rest. Do I have to?
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  Speaker 6: I usually try to start at the beginning. I think
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  Speaker 6: with you, you've got a lot of stuff going on.
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  Speaker 6: There's definitely sort of a bookends of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Sure. You rock it out. We'll fill in the holes.
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  Speaker 6: I guess... With everybody, I try to start, like, what
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  Speaker 6: were your early influences or how early on did you
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  Speaker 6: start into, like, arts in general? Like, did you start off, like,
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  Speaker 6: a showbiz kid? Were the parents, like, driving you to
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  Speaker 6: go meet a manager or publicity shots?
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  Speaker 1: Basically, the answer is yes. I started doing TV and
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  Speaker 1: commercials and print work when I was five. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: My sister is a few years older than I am,
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  Speaker 10: and she was in the industry before I was. And,
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  Speaker 10: of course, I came along, and then I was there
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  Speaker 10: and kind of absorbed into it as well. So my
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  Speaker 10: sister worked quite a bit when she was young as well,
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  Speaker 10: and her biggest awesome kind of claim to fame is–
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  Speaker 10: it's one of my all-time favorite movies.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. She was in The Towering Inferno.
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  Speaker 6: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the big 70 disaster movie. Yeah, that's a score.
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  Speaker 10: With the world's best ensemble cast of heavyweights ever, right?
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  Speaker 6: I love that level. I mean, I'm a little more
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: Poseidon adventure. But if she could have gotten in the Poseidon.
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  Speaker 1: We could go outside. We can take this outside.
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  Speaker 6: I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 1: Daring Informer versus Poseidon Adventure.
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  Speaker 6: The Smackdown. I mean, she's got OJ, though. Poseidon Adventure
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  Speaker 6: didn't get OJ.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with Steve McQueen and Paul Newman instead of OJ.
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  Speaker 1: How about that?
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  Speaker 6: Steve McQueen didn't kill anybody. Allegedly.
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly. Did Robert Wagner? I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I think the verdict came in.
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  Speaker 1: Delete that.
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  Speaker 6: Never mind.
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly. So, yes, to... To answer your question, I started
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  Speaker 1: very young and did a lot of print work, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of commercials.
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  Speaker 10: And then TV, and then films came, and more TV.
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  Speaker 10: And all through my teenage years, and then took a
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  Speaker 10: break when I went to college, actually.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Did you, again, this is a sibling rivalry thing,
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  Speaker 6: did your sister start getting annoyed when you were getting parts?
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  Speaker 1: No, we luckily weren't reading for the same points.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, I would say.
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  Speaker 1: And she's a little older. You know, there's a thing.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely got, you know, I was fortunate enough. Was
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  Speaker 1: I fortunate enough? I was either fortunate enough or unfortunate.
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  Speaker 6: Enough to be part of the, you.
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  Speaker 10: Know, mid and late 80s teen celebrity magazine type thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is way pre-internet.
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  Speaker 6: I have many issues with splice at home.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so there's, you know, Tiger Beat and Teen Machine
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  Speaker 1: and Teen Set and.
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  Speaker 10: Teen gaboom gaboom and things like that. So that's a
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  Speaker 10: whole other kind of world to be in. She never
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  Speaker 10: was a part of that, but she was always around,
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  Speaker 10: so we all knew the same people and all the
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  Speaker 10: same friends. She's pretty awesome. We are now actually... We
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  Speaker 10: get to work on projects because she's part of the
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  Speaker 10: documentary that we just did on the production side.
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  Speaker 6: Then... And this is one I'm like, I never, again,
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  Speaker 6: we don't have to go too far down this road
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  Speaker 6: if you'd like, but anybody who came up in that era,
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, it's a rough industry now, but like kids
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  Speaker 6: in that, like, again, we've heard so many horror stories,
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  Speaker 6: just not just the substance abuse, but the way that
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  Speaker 6: the studios and studio heads kind of treated some of
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  Speaker 6: these kids. So I'm like, I don't know, like how
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  Speaker 6: much of that did you come in contact with?
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  Speaker 10: Actually, I was fortunate– this is where you're definitely fortunate.
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  Speaker 10: I was fortunate enough to not ever really be someone
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  Speaker 10: that had a lot of issues of either side. And
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  Speaker 10: that has to do with a number of things. And
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  Speaker 10: one of the things that's not really my inherent nature
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  Speaker 10: to– You know, to be in the wrong place at
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  Speaker 10: the wrong time or to do the wrong thing. Or,
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  Speaker 10: you know, I didn't drink, you know, as a kid.
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  Speaker 10: I didn't do any drugs.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of a lame-o. I was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like uncool. That's me. I wasn't acting. I was super lame-o.
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  Speaker 6: I was just lame.
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  Speaker 1: And that was okay.
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  Speaker 10: And there was also, especially in this industry, when you're
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  Speaker 10: a kid in the industry, my parents, including someone like
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  Speaker 10: my sister who's older, and then the small core of
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: people that are around you were there.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And when you hear the stories.
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: About individuals, whether they were kid actors and have issues
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: then or later on, you can actually go back and
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: correlate a pathway where they didn't really have a lot
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: of support or people.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Really watching out for them.
• 19:00
  Speaker 10: Or they had people actually putting them in totally dangerous
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: situations by not paying attention whatsoever. So whereas a lot,
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: you know, there's a handful of us. that, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: still friends with that we grew up in this crazy
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: business and the teen machine, you know, scene.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And, you know, where, you know, back in the day,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: we're like, oh, you know, my parents smothered me or
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: didn't let me do anything fun. And like, you know what?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I think we're okay. It's called parenting, actually. It's okay.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I think we're okay. It's okay.
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: You bring up an interesting point. First of all, this
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: is a weird thing to put your kids in anyway.
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: Most kids aren't asking to do this.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 10: Especially at five and six. You know, you don't wake
• 19:36
  Speaker 10: up and go– You know, Mom, I was contemplating my
• 19:39
  Speaker 10: life last night after I took my diaper off and
• 19:44
  Speaker 10: my little lederhosen outfit, and I think I'd like to
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: get into film and TV.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You know, no one's Stewie Griffin.
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: You know, in real life. And so those people, you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: not naming any names or not pointing a thing, but
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: there's a lot of people that put their kids in
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: this business that are living through them for that attention
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: or as a meal ticket.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Well, that's what I was going to say. It gets
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: more complicated when they are the breadwinner of the family,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: like when they are bringing home all of the money.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That is correct.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Your job then becomes getting them more jobs.
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: And then it becomes, it can become not an obsession,
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: but a frenetical type thing that becomes an issue and
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: stressful and Because then all of a sudden it's like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: what if you don't get a part for eight months,
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: but no one else in your family has a job?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the world.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: Revolves around you and your career.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And I think that's super unfair to a 10-year-old. That's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: On a kid to support an entire family.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: There are laws in place to protect some of the money.
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: I've never thought it was enough.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I think it should absolutely be 100% of the money.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Even then, those laws only came into place because... Because
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: back in the day, we're getting screwed over, both literally
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: and figuratively and financially. And all of it was just
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: horror stories that built those laws on. So yeah, it's
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: a nightmare.
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: I think just the Coogan law that takes your pre-tax
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: money and puts it away in your trust fund, I
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: don't think that's enough.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, granted. Ooh, it's pre-tax.
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: It's only 20% or something.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: It should be 80%. Yeah, at least.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Let the other 20% be taxed.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: It's like, you're 10%.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: You know, the government doesn't need your money. You don't
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: need to give, like, a class. Because, like, that, again,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: the lawyer that came along and said that, like, they
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: were set up. And, like, that's the one time where
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: somebody actually went out of their way to make sure
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: these kids were taken care of financially. Now, granted, they
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: still run into their own problems.
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: It's life. But that was one of those I was like, okay, that's.
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: The way everybody needs to get that kind of treatment.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: That would be nice. And they were certainly an anomaly. Yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: They saw a situation and they built. An empire.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Now, you brought up an interesting thing where these are kids.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: We are human beings.
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: And just because you're in an interesting endeavor doesn't mean
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: you're not a normal human and having those trappings and
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: those pitfalls and make mistakes. Or if you're inherently in
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: a family situation or your personal thing where you just
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: make bad decisions or you're not being looked after, you're.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Going to make mistakes.
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: That same kid that makes a mistake that happens to
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: be on a TV show is the same kid that
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: would make the mistake in 10th grade if he wasn't
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: on a TV show.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: But the business also adds some weird stuff.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say.
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: It also draws people that have.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Again, there is something, because again, I have surrounded myself
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: with artists over the years, and I'm like, they're a
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: weird bunch. So it adds to that when you have,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: you've already got a weird insecurity sometimes that you're dealing with,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: and you're trying to work it out in a creative way,
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: and then you've got people that are waiting to use
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: that to their advantage. And like, so yeah, there's so
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: many levels of, of just, it's, it's the deck is
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: stacked against you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It almost is. And that's a great way to put it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: And you actually brought up another interesting kind of, you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: trigger point of a lot of creatives or a lot
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: of performers and a lot of people in film and TV.
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: are the most insecure individuals you'll ever meet, but yet
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: they're performing in front of huge crowds. You'll meet a
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: lot of musicians that are super insecure or they're introverts
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: or they have social anxiety things.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: They have weird processes. They don't like people looking at them.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It's like, but you're a model.
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: You don't like people looking at you, but you're on
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: a movie, but you're playing guitar.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: In a stadium.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Again, it was somebody on the show that I won't mention,
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: but it was one of those they were getting ready
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: to have a show we already talked and I just
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: came up to say hey thanks for doing like it
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: was like five minutes before the show and they were
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: in preparation mode and like they didn't know how to
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: talk to like they kind of freaked out a little
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: bit and I was just like yeah I'm sorry I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: sorry like I didn't I didn't know I'm sorry we
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: were hanging out an hour ago I know we were
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: fine an hour ago what happened so it's a creative
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: thing it's an.
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: Interesting thing and then when you narrow it down to
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: you know someone that may be the super popular kid
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: in their high school in Des Moines and then they
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: moved to LA to get in this industry and They've
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: never had a lot.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: They've always won. They've always been popular. They've been funny.
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: They've been the popular kid if they've been successful. But
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: what you don't realize is that's a lot of pressure
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: when you're in high school or maybe even college. And
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: you have to live up to like I'm the quarterback
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: or I'm the cute cheerleader or I'm the funny kid
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: or I'm the plucky friend next door even in Des Moines.
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: And then that translates into something like Hollywood.
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: And you put those people into– now they're in a
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: pool of a bunch of thems.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: They're no longer the 1%. They're the 99%.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: You've taken all those people and crammed them into one city.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: And not only is the city full of the same
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: type of people, and then that starts this rattling kind
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: of electricity in itself.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: That resonates through everybody.
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: But you put them in an industry, let's say film, TV,
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: maybe music industry, whatever, that– These people have always been successful.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: They've always been popular. They've always won.
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: They've always done good in a game or good in
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: a play or good on a test. And you put
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: them in an industry that's 99% rejection.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And they go bonkers.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: It's all competition.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: People go bonkers.
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: And no one gives anybody like a– preparatory course of
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: how to deal with this craziness.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: I hear that in recent years. It is a thing
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: that like, you know, even people that like go to
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: film school, it's like they need to teach you not
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: so much how to shoot it, but how to deal
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: with press, how to deal with like, there's like the
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: practical things that come along. They don't like, you need
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: to deal with that stuff equally as much as learning
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: your craft because it's half of the battle.
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: It's almost the same thing where you hear more about
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: it in like professional sports where it's like, I don't
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: think NBA rookies, they should get all their money. I
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: think they should get a financial advisor, should go to
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: a trust fund. I'm like, First of all, I totally
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: agree with you. But they also need to learn how
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: to do all that other stuff because now they're going
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: straight one year in college, one in town or whatever.
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: You're 19. You've got $ 50 million in your.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Pocket and you've never even been out of your hometown
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: because you didn't go to college. Or even if you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: went to college, you went to some awesome school in
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a town that recruited you and you don't know and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: then now you're in New York City and you're playing
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: for the Knicks.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Everyone caters to you in those little– yeah, that scenario
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: and then.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You get thrown into that. You're going to lose your mind.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: And it's not necessarily your fault.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: And it's not good when it's fueled with money either.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: Money is the worst thing.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That just gives.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: You an excuse to do whatever you want and no
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: one tells you no.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And when you don't understand money because you've never had it,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you're toast. Everybody's toast. And it's so unfair and unfortunate.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And so I always see that and lament that. It's
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like lottery winners.
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: Someone wins a megabucks and they lose it two years later. Hi,
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: I'm Steve from Crankville, Missouri.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: And I.
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: I'm a CPA in my small town, and now I
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: have $ 250 million. And three years later, they're broken in prison.
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: You're like, how does that happen? It's just unfair to.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: The human mind. And so we're off a tangent there
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong. I want my chance to be
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: insane with $ 250 million. I keep waiting.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Just give me the chance for the interest off that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: $ 250 million. I'm not even greedy.
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: But yeah, I think that's a dynamic that people now
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: are a little bit more aware of when in context
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: to kids in the business, whether it's– and when I
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: say kids in the business, I mean entertainment business.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Most of the kids that I grew up with were
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like multiple threats.
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: They were singers, they were dancers, they were musicians, they
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: were performers. Now you almost have to be, or you're
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: a manufactured triple threat. Some were just natural. It boggles
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: my mind of how many, because I love talented people.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I love watching live performances. I love good acting. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: love musicians. Even if you're a stand-up comic, that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: All takes skill and it takes innate ability and When
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: someone's really good, I marvel at that. I'm not musical,
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: but I love music and I love musicians and I
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: love live performance. I'll sit and listen to a three-piece
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: string quartet play something.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I might recognize.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: The tune, but I don't know how to play it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's amazing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: That person's playing the viola like they've been doing it
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: since they came out of the womb.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And it's awesome.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: But that's part of it, too, is honing that skill.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: So these kids, they get thrown into it with no
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: chance to really even kind of get the chops, really,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: or know how to deal with it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: I think that's more of a thing nowadays where it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: like you just got to do it and you go.
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: And you may be not as talented as people are
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: making you up to be.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: In a year or two, you could be. But, oh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you missed your chance. You suck. You're out. Moving on.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And this is sort of a meat grinder.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: You know, entertainment, whether it's music, especially music. Music's even
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: more of a meat grinder than film and TV.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: More so now than ever, really. Because I feel like...
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: It's either, are you hot now? Great, I'll do something
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for you. You're not? I'll wait until you're hot and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: then I'll pay attention.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Because it used to be.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: You get some heat in your vibe.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: The Warhol 15 minutes thing. But, like, you got, like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: 20 seconds now. You don't even get... Like, it is
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: so quick the way that you will see somebody who's, like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: a big YouTube star. And a year later, you're like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: nobody pays attention to that channel.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Like, they came and went... Well, again, I mean, see, again.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I like to take away from a lot of people.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's a new media. I don't get it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: But again, I'm an old guy. So I want people
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: to like, I'm still drawn to the old stuff. But
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm watching kids coming up today. I'm like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: that's a totally legit thing for you. Like, you don't
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: understand our way. Like, it makes sense because you're immersed
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: in it. So I'm like, I don't want to totally
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: condemn it. I don't fully get it. So I'm not
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: going to do it, I guess. But like.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Our parents didn't understand Atari.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: But, I mean, I shouldn't be talking into this microphone, too, really.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But I found... We got a little, like, eight-inch thing
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that's collecting all this audio, and you're going to put
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it in a program, and you're going to put it
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: on the interwebs, and it's going to be amazing.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's like, I guess we all find our
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: own thing. So I want to encourage everybody, kind of. But, yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: there are new versions of stardom that I'm just like...
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Because they even on the show I constantly call out
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: like reality stars that's a different category for me I'm
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: sorry like it just is it's not well first of
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: all it's not reality it's the most doctored like fictional
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: films are more real it's so scripted it is such
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: a scam but then on top of that it's like
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: and you're also not stars so neither of those words
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: apply reality stars is bullshit that's right that's right But again,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: I'm just being a cranky old man. I know that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm totally that curmudgeon-y dude now. It's like,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get off my interwebs.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: See?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's what we.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Do.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Stick with your YouTubes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: You kids.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And somehow Whitney Houston is on the overhead, which is crazy.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Can't go wrong with that. Things didn't turn out bad
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: for her.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait. I was like, wait, is Whitney performing in Louisville?
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: You started it. Now we're being mean. I blame Bobby Brown.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: Anyway.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: So, we got sidetracked.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: I guess eventually we have to get to the fact
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: that you did get a movie, and we wouldn't get
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: to the second movie before we... So I guess we
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: kind of have to talk about.
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so starting really early, I did a lot of TV,
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: a lot of film, a lot of guest spots, tons
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: of commercials, and.
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: I've done more television, even back in the day when
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: there was only three channels, and then there was four networks, right?
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Now there's content everywhere. It's amazing. That's the other one
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I can't keep up with. I wish I was 14
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in this day.
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: It was like there's 200 channels on cable plus the
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: internet and web services and streaming shit.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: And everybody still seems to be getting by. Again, I
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: think we would hit a breaking point of we can't
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: have this much original content. Everything is going to collapse, right?
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: It keeps coming out.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't understand it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: I think what's going to change is how many brands
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: own all those outlets. I give it 10 years and
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: there'll be three. Three brands will own everything. Most of
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: the three own them all now anyway.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: It'll be back to the three networks.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It'll be back to the, see, you beat me to it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: It's three networks, yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It's right back to the, you know, three outlets that
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we used to have.
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: So I did a lot of, you know, I was
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: fortunate enough to do a lot of television even when
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: there wasn't a lot of content in general, let alone
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: a lot of kids in that content.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: And then got fortunate enough to– what's funny is I
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: worked a long time in this business as a kid,
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: and I did a ton of television series.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I did a lot of guest spots and stuff.
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: I was the guy, the kid that did like eight shows.
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: TV shows that went one season instead of one show
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: that went eight seasons that everybody knows.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: I saw one. I was looking at your rundown. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: was like, wait, I do remember that. But then I
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: was like, okay, that show only lasted one season. But
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, except within that one season.
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: You spent, I'm assuming, every day with George C.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: Scott and Madeline Kahn.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: That was two seasons of the show called Mr.
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: President.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my God.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Even for a series that didn't take off, it didn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: become Friends, but I'm like, who cares? That's pretty amazing
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: for a kid.
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: And the people that were involved in that show, that
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: was one of the six or seven original shows on
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: Fox when it was a brand new network. Because I
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: had actually sort of had this inside kind of deal
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: with Fox the studio. I was doing a bunch of
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: other TV shows for big TV guys like Michael Zinberg
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: and Randy Zisk and These guys are still around doing
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: the biggest TV shows out there.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: And, uh, when Fox became a network, like I got
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: offered a couple of those original shows and like we
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: chose Mr.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: President.
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: I mean, the people in, uh, associated with that show
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: were incredible. First of all, it's George C. Scott doing
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: television for the first time.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Which, yeah, is weird in its own. It was Johnny
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Carson's production company.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Produced by Johnny Carson.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: Ed Weinberger, who's like one of the biggest television icons ever,
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: is producing the show, who George C. Scott subsequently banned
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: from the stage. And then the whole thing just went crazy.
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: And had Conrad Bain from Maud and Different Strokes. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: then Madeline Kahn joined the show. And Maddie Korman, who,
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: you know, she and I were sister and brother. She
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: You can now see her on– you can see her–
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: mostly she's a New York kind of stage performer. But
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: she does a ton of movies. She's doing something super
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: awesome and secret right now that may or may not
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: have Tom Hanks in a sweater in it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Under wraps, guys.
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: She's on Madam Secretary with like a recurring role. So
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: I see my older sister. I'm like, hey, there's my
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: older TV sister.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: It's my big sister. And she's actually great in that show.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes. What a great scene. Keep doing those.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: And so it's interesting to grow up in something that's
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: totally unique and separate because you have to– whether I
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: did one show for 10 years that everybody knows or
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: 10 shows for one season that nobody remembers, I was
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: very fortunate to do a lot of work and be
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: part of that world because not many people.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Get to do that.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, it is, again, what you get out of
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: the experience is more important.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: You learned a lot.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: Grand scheme, you know.
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: Another thing that leads to a lot of people in
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: trouble later in life when they grow up in the
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: industry is not knowing how to do anything else but that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: When I wasn't working or on set, I was in
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: regular school or hanging out with regular friends or learning
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: stuff or working in the yard or the garage with
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: my dad, going on trips, learning how to travel, learning
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: how to manage your life.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: That's better than most people I know, actually. I know
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that cannot do that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: And then also still being a professional in an industry
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: that is all about doing some stuff that only 0.01%
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: of the population gets to ever do. And so it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: sort of this weird thing if you think about it
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: from outside yourself. And then it leads up to something
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: all in the middle of that doing something like Monster Squad,
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: which just happened to be– I got lucky enough to
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: be cast as the lead in that movie, which led
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: to other stuff. And this led to a 30-year fantasy.
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: following and fan base for a movie that absolutely tanked
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: in the box office yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: I mean and that that's one of those it's it's
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: i mean it is like at the.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Time i guess it was no success in the industry.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I guess at this point is is rediscovering something like
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: it it is a weird thing that like i don't
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: think we could have even gotten to that point without
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: this the last 20 30 years of the weird way
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: that our pop culture has changed and the the gen
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: x kids that grew up and became so knee-deep in
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: nostalgia that almost at a dangerous level, sometimes I question it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: It's out of control some days. But I think it
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: also leads to this love and this affection for what
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: they grew up with in a way that no generation
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: ever had before. So I think that helped where you
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: eventually came on board with the new movie anyway.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: And I think they had a connection that they didn't
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: realize was an organic thing that lasted throughout their whole life.
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: And then they get to a certain point in age
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: and they're like, I want that again. And that's what
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: we're all making now.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: That's what people are making. You can turn on the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: TV and see it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: And it's oozing out of there because everybody's jonesing for
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: that time.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: It's that having to deal with real life part.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: They're just like, I hate this. It totally sucks.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: That's why 90s television was... awful and also awesome because
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: it didn't deal with anything.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: It is of its own world it's one of those
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: i didn't think about it in the 90s or even
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: shortly after and now i look back and i'm like
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: oh my god that is so 90s and like i
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: didn't think.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: About it at the time right it's like er is
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: the only show that dealt with real shit in the.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: 90s fresh prince obviously oh yeah the hard hitting a
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: very special episode but carlton smokes a joint Which is
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: now totally legal in California now, and you're like, wait
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: a minute.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: That's how he got his video camera show today.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: By the way, I love Alfonso. He's awesome.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: He's so good at that. It was on the other night,
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: and like every time.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: He was built for that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: I see the show come on, I go, wait, this
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: is still on? And then I'll watch it for five
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: minutes and be like, damn it, he's good. He's so
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: good at it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: He is a performer's performer, because he was made for that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: He's a trained song and.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Dance kid, right?
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: He's so made for that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: TV and movie, and he's... You want him to host.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: He was built for that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: That's the thing. I'm like, who's this Bob Saget?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Get out of the way. Was Mario Lopez built to host?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: He's a good host.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: I was like, come on. He's... I think he lucked up.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: He's good at it, is the thing. Mario lucked up.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I love Mario Lopez to death, but he's like, I'm
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: going to be on.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: He does it the way... Extra. And it's amazing. I
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: think Ryan Seacrest does it. I think he's good at it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: I don't really like the person, especially... Like, Ryan's amazing,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: what he's built. I don't like watching him, but I'm like, he's.
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: So damn perfectly made to do that thing.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: He's not going to go be a wonderful actor in
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: some movie. This is the thing he was born to do.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, he came out of the factory to be that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: To host and just sort of have middle-of-the-road conversations.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: It's finding your spot, right?
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: A lot of people fail or get whacked out because
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: they're trying to shove their... their own square bodies in
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: a round hole.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: He's the blob. He just went, I am this.
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: He's like the octopus. He can fit in anywhere and
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: come out on top and eat you and buy your
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: whole company.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: What do moms in the middle of the day want
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: to hear me say? Okay, I'm on the Kelly show.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Let's do this.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: He did slide right into that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: All of that stuff.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's a shark octopus. He is so good at that.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And he's got a nice little grin, but I think
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: those teeth are sharp.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like, I don't trust him,
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: but I give him credit. Like, that dude built his
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: own empire. He owns networks now.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: That's right. And I'm like, he's smart as hell. But yeah,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: people like that.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: That's what I like.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And you have to appreciate that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: You do.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: People take advantage of the scene. If you have any
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: respect for the industry, yeah, you do.
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: And, you know, you have Mario, then you have Alfonso.
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: And these are great faces and personalities that people resonate
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: with and love. You know, I would kill to have
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: a job, like, you know, hosting an awesome network show.
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: And I've hosted a show. I created a show last
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: year that Ryan Lambert and I hosted. It's so much fun.
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: And we get to interact with fans. We get to
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: see them at conventions like this. But yeah, going back
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: with the Monster Squad thing, it led to an interesting
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: dynamic that I don't think a lot of people.
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: Some understand it because it's a connected movie, but not
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: a lot of people like Ryan or Ashley or myself
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: get to experience with a movie that didn't do well,
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: which is honestly one of those landmines that kill insecure
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: people in this business when something you do bombs and
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: then you're out.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: And you're toast.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: And it stays with you forever. It can kill your career.
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: It can kill a writer's career, a director's career. People
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: go off the deep end literally with stuff like that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: We were fortunate enough, we moved on and did other
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: stuff and grew up and went to college. And 2007
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: comes around and people– no one really knew this movie
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: still existed in their guts. And it just exploded in 2007.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And it's been nonstop since?
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: It's one of those, I kind of saw it coming.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: But that's because, again, I worked in a movie store.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: So I had every dorky guy my age would come
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: up asking for that when it was out of print.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: And I'd be like, let me see if I know.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: I know I can't special order it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: It's out of print.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: It's not around. It was one of those, like the
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: guys had that. Every girl that same age wanted Shag
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: the movie. I don't know why.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: It's a great movie.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: It is a good movie. I'm all for it. Annabeth
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: Gish in general. Anything with Annabeth Gish. But no, it
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: was one of those, I felt it coming. It's more
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: so than I think most people that were totally out
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: of the woods. I remember people just regularly, and it
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: was like, man, I love that movie. And it would
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: be a thing that just a handful of them, but
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Everywhere you went, there was just a handful of them.
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: So you were smelling the sense of the smoke signals
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: before it even kind of ignited.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: There are ones that I do remember people coming in
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: looking for all the time. And I'm like, if somebody
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: backed this, if somebody put out a really good version,
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: it would take off. And maybe not.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Maybe not the way that this one did where it
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: gets a new life, but it would at least like
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: people would have appreciated and have a good copy of it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: And yeah, you weren't getting bootlegs off, you know, back
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: in the day, which is what people did.
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: They were putting the Japanese laser disc in, you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: some people in the UK were putting it in a
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: DVD case and shrink wrapping and mailing all over the
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: world and.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: And at that point, you can't fault. Like, I don't
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: like encouraging that stuff. But at the same time, I'm like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: when you're a big fan, you'll take what you can get.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: You know, it's like you do.
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: Right, and I know a lot of those fans. And
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: I even had friends that showed me, like, look what
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: I got. I was like, that's not real. That's not
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: a thing.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And they all go crestfallen.
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: But yeah, you know, to experience something like that, like
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: I said, I don't think a lot of people that
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: have been, you know, cast members of a movie. You know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: there's a ton of cast members. People love movies, and
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: they're iconic, or they're cult classics, or, you know, whatever
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: you want to call them.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Not everybody gets to do that.
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: Definitely not everybody gets to do something like this where
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: it comes back.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: 20 years later. It roars for another 10 or 12 years.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: It's still around.
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: And then someone like me is meeting these fans and
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: hearing those stories like you in the video store, asking
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: these stories and people coming up and really explaining how
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: this movie connects with them and why and thanking me
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: for making it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't make it. I was just
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: I just showed up.
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: But you become such a part of that fabric of
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: this whole story with these people. And I wanted to–
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: I got to a point where I thought those stories–
• 42:29
  Speaker 10: I had reached kind of a level of hearing these
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: where I was like, these stories are a story.
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: How can I explain this?
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: Because I don't think people– like, this is fascinating to
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: me because I didn't think it would last for a while.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe a year or two, we'd do some conventions.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Sign some autographs. I was 20 years old. Bye. And
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: it's still going strong.
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: Now, second generation– like, we meet– pregnant mothers to be.
• 42:54
  Speaker 10: And they're like, this is the next wave. And we
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: meet those kids six years, five years, seven years later.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Like this is, this is my favorite movie or her favorite.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is insane.
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: And that's what gripped me to come up and like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: how do I tell, how do I make those stories
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: a story?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And what would that be like? How do I go
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: about doing that?
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: So I sat off on a, on a, on a
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: little trek and, um, uh, had, Some initial ideas and
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: some initial kind of first steps of it that just
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: didn't happen.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: And then I thought it wasn't going to happen.
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: And then I had a very serendipitous encounter one day
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: outside of a studio building in LA with a friend
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: of mine and introduced me to two other people that
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: worked in that same office. Mm-hmm.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: You know, just about, just about a year. It's all timing.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Luck and work and timing. Like you got to be
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: putting in the work, but then sometimes it's.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Just, it's all luck.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: It's all lucky.
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: So I met Henry McComas and brought me into Pilgrim
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: Media Group and we thought about it. We kind of
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: developed the concept and idea and we pitched it to
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: the execs and they got behind it. You know, I'm,
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: you know, so I said, I'll bring this in and
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: let's work on this together and let's see what we
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: can make. And, um, Henry and, and, and myself and, and,
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: and Wes and Aaron and all the guys from that
• 44:12
  Speaker 10: small little team at Pilgrim Media Group, um, and 1620 Media,
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: which is a department of Pilgrim that made this movie
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: with me, uh, just absolutely knocked it out of the
• 44:21
  Speaker 10: park because, uh, if you've seen it, if you're out
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: there listening, you've been to a festival, you know, we
• 44:25
  Speaker 10: just finished up like a six month festival run. The, the,
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: the documentary has been almost all over the world. It's
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: been from Australia to Poland.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: It's amazing.
• 44:31
  Speaker 10: And, um, We got to go around to 12, 13,
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: 14 awesome festivals.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: We went to England twice, LA stuff.
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: We sold out the Egyptian theater at Beyond Fest with
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: 600 people. And that was really special because that's kind
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: of the hometown premiere. And we had 600 awesome fans there.
• 44:50
  Speaker 10: A lot of friends and a lot of family too,
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: but that counts.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: And that was even more special because we got to
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: bring a lot of the cast in.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Some of them are in the documentary.
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: But most importantly, Fred Decker was there to be able
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: to see this documentary for the first time with 599
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: other people. And it was quite an experience.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: That's the part that kind of breaks my heart about
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: the whole deal, especially watching it not be successful that
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: first time. And only after I sat down with Fred.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: You know, it's like before I didn't know much about
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: him and I'd seen, you know, Night of the Creeps.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: And like, so I knew who he was.
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: But then I sat down and like, there's nobody more.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Pure and is just such a movie fan himself. And
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: like everything about what he was setting out to do.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: And then to watch it all just kind of crash.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: And then, like, he's one of those that kind of
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: seemed like it took the wind out of the sails. Like,
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: the whole career, he's just like.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, it didn't just take the wind out of the sails.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It took the wind out of the sails.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: And dropped a giant boulder through the hull of your boat.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: It just.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And it went right to the bottom very quickly.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: It seemed like even at that point, like, he was
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: still kind of hurting from it. You know, he's like,
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: I got to make two really great movies that I liked.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: I jumped in on a franchise and it didn't work.
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: I made the movie I wanted to and it didn't
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: like whatever it is, but I was like, you're not
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: going to turn that down as a young director.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: That's the thing.
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: Within three or four years, you're making three big movies.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: He's like... I got to make a RoboCop. What am
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: I going to say? No, I got to make a
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: RoboCop movie.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: No one's going to say no.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: I was like, I'll do it now.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: You say no to RoboCop 9. That's the one you
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: say no to.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: The one that's straight to cable.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: That's right. Let me direct that one. No, it's fine.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: But yeah, it's like Fred was just so pure in
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: what he was bringing to that movie. And to watch
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: it just kill him. So to have it kind of
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: balance out and to have him be able to see
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: What you put together and the love that people had
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: for it is kind of amazing.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: It certainly was.
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: And that was something personally that I was hoping for
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: over the year and a half that we were actually
• 46:50
  Speaker 10: making this thing. is if there was a little bit
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: of something in there when Fred finally watched this. That's
• 46:56
  Speaker 10: why I wanted him to wait to see it with
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: a huge crowd.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Not send him the link and he can watch it
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: in his bedroom.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: Not sit in your living room.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, watch it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: And I think it, because, you know, we brought out,
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: we did Monster Squad and then a Q & A
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: with everybody and then showed the doc, which is sort
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: of backwards.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 10: But it worked out great and we brought Fred in
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: and I was part of the event, so I kind
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: of tweaked it on purpose and we introduced all the cast.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: We had a bunch of them there.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: And....
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: Our moderator was Julia Cunningham from EW Radio. And I said,
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: so introduce only, do me last, and then let me
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: introduce Fred because I'm going to set up this crowd.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And I want Fred to come to.
• 47:36
  Speaker 10: A sold out house that they just watched his movie
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: that they were all there for. And then they were
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: going to watch a documentary about that movie. Uh, and
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: the documentary is not really about the movie. It's about
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: the connection that people have with it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And one of.
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: Those connections that someone in an interview has with the
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: movie is Fred's connection to this movie.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: So he's, his interview is extremely open. It's extremely vulnerable.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: It's very emotional.
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: Um, And he lays it out there and explains his
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: relationship with this movie.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: From start to finish. He's pretty honest about that stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I was surprised even in just talking
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: to him how honest he was.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's the best part of the documentary.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just.
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: And I hope he's seen it. And we've talked briefly after.
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: And I hope that he... I wasn't trying to take
• 48:21
  Speaker 10: advantage of that. I wasn't trying to take advantage for
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: personal sake of making fun of anything or I wanted
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: to tell the story, and this was important. And one
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: of the personal things in my mind for the whole
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: year was I wanted Fred to see this and see
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: the reaction that people have for this documentary, see the
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: reaction of the interviews that people explain why this movie
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: means so much to them, going all the way back
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: to the guys that made the monsters for the movie, right?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: And it's all because of Fred, and Shane has something
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: to do with it, but it's all because of Fred.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: And hopefully when he sees that, sees it, Takes a breath,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: lets it out, and goes, my perspective's changed a little bit.
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have to completely turn 180 degrees.
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: No. But just to get him like, okay, you know what?
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: I just went okay like one notch, and I get it. Well,
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: and if nothing else– Hopefully it's there and it does
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: something good for him.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: There's a reason for it all.
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: You didn't suffer through this for nothing. Look what you
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: brought all these other people.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: Even if it didn't immediately make you successful, in the
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: long run, look what you've done for all these other
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: people that love this thing that you created.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: What's really interesting, and I didn't know this until just
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: a while ago, and you just reminded me of it
• 49:34
  Speaker 10: with all these other people.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: One of my all-time favorite movies.
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: A lot of my favorite movies have storylines around individuals
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: or people that are capable and smart and knowledgeable, but
• 49:49
  Speaker 10: they're really just a vehicle to help someone else succeed.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: And I've always felt a little of that myself.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: And some were like teachers or coaches or you know
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: Crash Davis and Bull Durham like why isn't he the
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: main lead star you just jumped you just jumped me
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: that's one of my all time favorite movies is Mr.
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: Holland's Opus and you know he wanted to be this
• 50:10
  Speaker 10: famous you know kind of composer musician and band leader
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: guy gets stuck in a small town but doesn't realize
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: what his life meant until that last scene where there's
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: you know 400 people in that auditorium and a band
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: playing his stuff and then he gets it yeah and
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: I think those type of people are important. And so
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: it's not the same thing, but it sort of parallels
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: with Fred and, say, his movies and his career of
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: what his impact had. He thinks he doesn't have an
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: impact because it didn't happen. He doesn't realize the actual
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: impact that he's had to whereas there's other filmmakers that
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: rip his stuff off or rip him and Shane's lines
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: off or pay homage or tribute to their stuff. That's
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: all an impact. And then I sort of wanted... I
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: don't want to say I wanted that Mr. Holland's opus impact,
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: but it was sort of kind of– I wanted you
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: to walk in and go, wow, there's a lot of
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: people in here and there's a lot of people in
• 51:01
  Speaker 10: this documentary.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I didn't make it for Fred, but this
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: is a big part of it. You want that for him.
• 51:08
  Speaker 10: And I want– a little bit of me wants a
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: little bit of that to come out in that respect.
• 51:12
  Speaker 10: And mainly I just didn't want him to hate it,
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: of course. But I think it worked, and I think
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: we did a good job of that. And hopefully that
• 51:22
  Speaker 10: moment of realizing that– because I sort of correlated– it's
• 51:26
  Speaker 10: 31 years later.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: We're at a convention here in Louisville signing autographs for
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the Monster Squad. That was three decades ago.
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: And people always ask, do you get tired talking about
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: Monster Squad?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: What's it like? And I'm like, well, look, I'll tell
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: you what.
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: I've always said that I've never, no one's ever come
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: up to us for an autograph or a photo.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: That doesn't really give a shit about this movie. There's
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: no like, eh, meh fan. It's like, I don't care.
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: They're either in or they're out. They're ride or die
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: Monster Squad. That's amazing. And it's been going on for
• 51:56
  Speaker 10: so long. And As long as someone wants to talk
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: to me about Monster Squad and the impact they had
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: on it, I will talk to them.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: As long as it's genuine. And I don't meet very
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: many disgenuine Monster Squad fans. There's no fake Monster Squad
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: fans out there.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: That says something about those people in the movie.
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: There's an occasional person that's bought a Stephen King rule
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: shirt that walks around and thinks.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Because they like it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: I like Stephen King.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: They like Stephen King and they don't get it. And
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: other Monster Squad fans go... Dude, you don't get it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Like they're up at your table going, you.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: Don't have very many products here, sir. Could you please
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: take my money for that shirt? That's right.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: We've run into a few of those. They're like, yeah,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Stephen King does rule. I love Cujo.
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: In a way, that's kind of refreshing, too.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: You're not in the club.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: They're giving you a totally different read.
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: But Monster Squad fans relish the opportunity to educate those
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: type of people.
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: They're standing behind him in line going, dude.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Wait. Let me explain.
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: We're either like, go take that shirt off. You're not
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: allowed to wear it because you're not in the goddamn club.
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: What I like Frankenstein that much.
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: I saw a guy in LA.
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: I was across the street eating lunch and he was
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: walking into Trader Joe's with a Stephen King.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Shirt on and his girlfriend. I was sitting there and
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, should I? My wife goes, go.
• 53:13
  Speaker 10: I walked across the street and I go into Trader
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: Joe's and I walked into Trader Joe's and right by
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: the carrots.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Of course. I walked up to him. I was like,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: good shirt. And he goes, oh yeah, thank. Holy shit.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh my God. And she jumped. And this
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: is right after, this is last summer. So it had
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: just been released. And she goes, yeah, we just went
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: to the, we saw it on opening weekend and it
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: was great. And I'm like, Oh, yeah. I haven't seen
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it yet. That's fascinating. And he's standing there.
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: He just put his hand over her mouth.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: He puts his hand over her mouth. He goes, stop talking.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: He goes, stop talking. She's like, what? He's like, you
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: liked it? He's like, stop talking.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, it's okay, dude.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: What's your name? He's like, I was like, you know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Jeremy or something. I was like, yeah, I know. I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: was like, no, I just saw your shirt and this
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: is my Trader Joe's, so I wanted to say hi.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, my God. And she's like– And she's
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: not in the club, so she didn't really know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: And then I.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Hope he didn't give her the what for after we
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: had parted ways. But it was a minute where he
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: grabbed her and said, stop talking. Stop talking. You don't understand.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: And I was like, it's OK, dude. It's OK.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: Well, now at least I know it's a real story.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: Because at first I was like, wait, he's got a girlfriend.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: Hold on. I know our demographic.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: Just kidding.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: That's what's changed in these last 20 years. This new generation,
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: it's cool for girls to be into that. Sometimes more
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: so than the guys coming up. I see more girls
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: attaching themselves to weird anime and video games and stuff that...
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: You never would have gotten into that in like kids
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: in the 80s. Like girls didn't care about that stuff.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: And it would have been uncool if they did.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of them did. They just really
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: weren't marketed to or really kind of allowed to.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: And you kept it under wraps. It's like, yeah, I
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: was playing Atari with my brother. But I wasn't a
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: geek about it because I knew everybody at school would
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: rip me apart.
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: And I'm not a gaming expert because I purposely years
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: ago stopped playing video games because I knew I would
• 55:13
  Speaker 10: never get out of it if I did it right.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: But like 50% of gamers are girls and women. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: they rock it out.
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: And it's like, I don't think you want to mess
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: with that because you'll lose.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Like, I guarantee you they're better at it than you.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: So I love that about this new generation coming up.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: That's amazing.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: And in Monster Squad, it's kind of split.
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we have a lot of guy fans, but we
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: have just as many girl fans because they saw what
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: was going on.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: We had Phoebe. We had Patrick's sister.
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: But we also had kind of the– It also helped,
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: you know, Ryan and I were sort of that teen
• 55:46
  Speaker 10: machine magazine era.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: It had crossover that some 80s stuff didn't have.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: And I think that kind of helped with the longevity
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: because it was just a bunch of, you know, frat
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: boys in their basements. You know, the movie's not going
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: to last that long. Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: But these are the genuine people and they're the loyal
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: fans and these are the people you want to hang
• 56:05
  Speaker 10: out with. And because, you know, the super cool popular
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: really kind.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Of like, that doesn't last. Like, none of that lasts.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: You've got to find new friends like every 18 months
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: or something, right? Because everybody moves on from each other.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Is that the case?
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: You find something you connect with. on a level like that,
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: you're going to have friends for a long time. There
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: are fans that I met 12 years ago that we
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: are now friends with.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: They're no longer fans.
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: We're just friends because we've seen them constantly or we
• 56:33
  Speaker 10: had something in common. I travel to Phoenix and if
• 56:37
  Speaker 10: I travel to Phoenix, I'm calling up April and Matt
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: Hooper and we're going to dinner. They drove to LA
• 56:42
  Speaker 10: for the documentary.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: She's in the documentary. It's stuff like that that I
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: don't know a lot of people that get an opportunity.
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: So You've got to kind of really either appreciate that
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: or respect that kind of dynamic.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: And I try to as much as I can. You know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: it's funny because, you know, we're here with William Shatner,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: who is Shatner, right? I guess. And as you may
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: or may not have seen if you were reading, you know, background,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I was T.J. Hooker's son. So I haven't seen Bill
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Shatner in years, like 25 years probably. And I saw
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: him at the Green New York. I was like, hey, Mr. Shatner,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I just want to say good morning. How are you?
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I'm signing.
• 57:20
  Speaker 10: A couple booths over here, and I just want to
• 57:22
  Speaker 10: say hello because I was actually your son on TJ Hooker.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I had a son on TJ Hooker?
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I went, have a good morning. I was in TJ Hooker.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I knew that was the reaction I was going to get.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: He was like, you did an episode? And I was like, no, no,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: we did like, it was like four or five or six.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: It was a run.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: They brought the kids in the storyline and they lived
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: with you and we hung out and then your daughter
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: got kidnapped in one episode. He's like, nothing.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I remember hanging on the hood of a car once.
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: You've done too much stuff, but I thought you might
• 57:51
  Speaker 10: remember you had kids on one of your shows, but
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: that's totally okay.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Enjoy your bagel. I'm going to go back out to
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: my booth.
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: But it was awesome seeing you because I love William Shatner.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: And there's something on the way. He's quite a character.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: And he was my dad on TV. I've had some
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: pretty cool TV dads.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I've had William Shatner. I've had George C. Scott. I've
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: had some iconic TV dads.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: That's pretty impressive.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's rad.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: I thought that was what was different. Again, looking at
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: when I first saw the documentary coming out, I was like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: they've done a ton of documentaries about movies. And like
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of them, they made a ton when they
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: started doing DVDs. special features so I'm like they became
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: pretty run-of-the-mill a lot of people wouldn't even watch them
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: when they came on the DVDs you know so then
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: I saw this and I'm like okay the fact that
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: you're involved and at the center of it is what
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: to me put this in a totally different category because
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: I'm like now we're not just watching a story about
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: this movie being made we're watching it from a different
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: perspective that you can't get any other way like if
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: you get some filmmaker that gets handed this and he
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: just makes a general documentary but the fact that you
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: were there in the beginning and You've watched this entire ride,
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: and now you're kind of seeing the other end of
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: what became of it, and then you're creating this movie. Like,
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: to me, that was what gave it kind of a
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: whole different spin. And I'm like, this is something I'm
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: interested in now.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: And that, thank you for that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: No, it's, yeah, I think it's great.
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: Was, you know, that was a kind of what made
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: it a no brainer from the beginning and what you really,
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: not only you thought would make it easy, but it
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: also almost kind of made it harder.
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: Uh, cause you had to actually make sure you, you,
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: you handled that correctly. And again, I was lucky, you know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 10: you know, you know, Henry and, and the guys at, at,
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: at 1620 were, Right there the whole time. We just became,
• 59:30
  Speaker 10: you know, another squad. And, you know, they got it
• 59:33
  Speaker 10: because they are all fans.
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 10: This is all the movie that they connected with. And especially,
• 59:38
  Speaker 10: you know, me and Henry are tighter. And, you know,
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: he grew up watching this movie on a dubbed VHS
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: off HBO that his older brother had in a box.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: And then Henry, because of movies like this, got into horror,
• 59:51
  Speaker 10: got into movie making, started daisy-chaining VCRs together. Some wouldn't
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: even work, and he would make movies and do nonlinear
• 59:59
  Speaker 10: editing in Anchorage, Alaska with a VHS camcorder.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: I remember trying to do that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 10: Now he's an amazing filmmaker, and I'm looking forward to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: our next project. And it's just in that serendipity day
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: of meeting them.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: To end up with this doc, we have a finished product.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: To have that, it's just been a fascinating.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: Year and really, really happy with the outcome of it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 10: And I hope that, like you mentioned, the connection with
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: it and being the person to bring it. This is
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: not a making of doc. This is not a where
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 10: are they now doc. This is not even a doc
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: about the Monster Squad.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: It really isn't.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 10: It's about a story. It's a relationship between fans and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 10: a movie that they love.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: It could be any movie.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: We open up the movie, we don't even talk about
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: Monster Squad. You see the first kind of interviews online.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 10: you know, on the road, on this tour, and you
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 10: see some celebrities that you know, and they're talking about
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 10: a movie that made an impact on them in their life,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: and nobody mentions Monster Squad. You know, people mention Wizard
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 10: of Oz, people mention Raising Arizona, Chuck Russell says Enter
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: the Dragon, and I'm like, that's my favorite part of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 10: this bit. And then we get into people talking about
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 10: Monster Squad. And it's to show, to set off that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 10: tone that this isn't about the making of Monster Squad.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Not aware are they now.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: It's not even about what is this dynamic with this
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 10: movie It's about the relationship that fans have with a movie.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: It happens to be this one. This dynamic that can
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: keep something alive for so long and so tightly connected
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 10: with people inside themselves that they've also passed on. And
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 10: it's a very interesting dynamic, and I wanted to tell
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 10: that story, and I think we did. And maybe that
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 10: leads to other things.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: Well, did you want to be a director beforehand? Had
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: that always been something you've been like, Again, when you're
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: on a set, you look around, what job do I want? Catering?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: I don't know. This guy's got a good job.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: Look, acting's the easy part, no matter what anybody tells you.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: That's probably the easiest thing to do on a set,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 10: in my mind. Directing's always cool. Of course, everybody wants
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: to direct. I love directing. I've directed some things up
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 10: to this point. Directing a documentary is totally different. Where
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: I have found my skill set even more so is.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: Being that creative development producer and putting pieces together and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 10: formulating concepts, finding out where that concept may land or
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: connect with somebody, and coming up with interesting ways to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 10: get those done. And so that's what I've been trying
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: to do since I moved back to LA four or
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: five years ago.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm on a great run.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: I had a great year last year. I did a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: lot of stuff last year. We were on a 17-city
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: and 17-day Alamo Drafthouse tour with the movie. We also
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: documented that for the documentary. That's where we got a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: lot of our great stuff. We did four or five
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: huge conventions. We went to London. All at the same time,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: I shot 22 episodes of my other series called Short
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 10: Ends on Nerdist Alpha Channel, all while developing this other
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: project for another series that was supposed to be at
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: a studio that is now back on the It has
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: to get re-Kickstarted.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Not Kickstarter, but it has to rev it back up again.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: That's what I was going to say. How can you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: focus on any new projects when you've still got so
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: much invested in this?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: And we're now in the second phase of the documentary.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: We just finished our festival run, and now we're in
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: the distribution-type release deal. So next spring, hopefully, or even earlier,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: Henry and I and maybe some of the cast and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: people will be back on the road showing the documentary
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 10: in theaters. Hopefully, there's going to be a Blu-ray out there,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: some sort of streaming deal. But I really want to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 10: take this doc to the people because when they– I've
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 10: already shown it to a dozen or so festivals, and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 10: I've been to a dozen or so festivals. It's screened
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: in a couple dozen, and people go absolutely bonkers. And
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 10: to experience that and to absorb that and to feel
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 10: that and be in the room with those people after
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: they see this documentary, they all get it.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: It's another thing that has now impacted their life. And
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: I'm like, you know what? That's pretty cool. I think
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 10: I want to take advantage of that and I want
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: to taste on that for a little bit. But it's
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 10: sort of a conduit. It's a two-way street there. And
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 10: hopefully we're giving something back and hopefully they're getting something
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: and I'm certainly getting something out of those responses.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: And look, it's nice.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, now I'm– Producing and developing new things. I'm always
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: interested in directing something. I don't think they're... They're not
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: going to give me... The next Marvel movie? The next
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: Marvel movie or something.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you should go for it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: You might as well.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know enough about green screen cinematography. Some of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: those guys.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: Are getting thrown into that. That's what I think is weird.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: If you want to work with actors and tell a story,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: it'd be so cool. Some of those new.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: Guys that they've done these last few series, they'll be
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: an indie filmmaker, and the next movie is the... biggest
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: thing in the world with green screen.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's on purpose. It's controlling.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: They don't want to pay a big, capable director a
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: lot of money to do this big movie, which they
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: had it, but then they're like, oh, and if it sucks,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: then we just blame this new guy.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: And they haven't been in the industry long enough to
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: have enough attitude to argue with producers.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: And people behind the scenes. I think that's also a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: strategy there, too.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: They're just like, yeah!
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 10: I love directing. I love putting things together. I love
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: working with directors as a producer.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Collaboration is such a.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: It's a fartsy word, and it's an air quote-y word,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: but working with other people to get something done, I'd
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: rather say than collaboration.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: You have to. It's an overused word.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: Specifically in film.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: You absolutely have to. There's no way to do it.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: Short of you doing some stop-motion animation on your desk,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: you're not making a feature-length film.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: If you're writing, producing, paying for, shooting, directing, editing, doing whatever,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: you're doing it wrong.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: And your thing's going to suck.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: You can't do everything. Everybody has a job and a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: skill set.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: And I'm lucky enough to know my tight-knit group is
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 10: a handful of awesome people. And I keep meeting more
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: cool people because of this. And you put two and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 10: two together.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I was at a festival in Chicago called Cinepocalypse. We
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: showed the doc. It was great.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: I met Ernest K. Dickerson, who did Tales of the Hood.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: And then the other day, the best episode of House
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 10: of Cards was Ernest K.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Dickerson's episode. I'm like, what is happening here?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: You never know.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I hung out with that guy
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: behind a movie theater. And that was pretty rad. That's awesome.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, I look forward to this kind of next
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: evolution after the doc, you know, working on other projects.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Love the direct.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 10: Love to, you know, pitch things to, you know, to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 10: production houses and studios and networks. And that's what it's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: all about.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people forget that I was
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: and am an actor.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: And so nobody asked me to be in their thing anymore.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: I guess that's helpful at this point, maybe. I was like,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: I love your movie.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I wish I loved to play that cop.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: And they were like, I would never ask you to.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Be in my little shitty movie. I'm like, why not?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: I loved it.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I totally would do that.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: You could give yourself a fake name as the director
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: of this movie.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: It's so funny.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: This kid in this monster movie. I don't know about him,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: but as a director, I feel it.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: I run into that a lot like so does Ryan
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: you know because you know we meet these filmmakers that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 10: are you know 30 you know 25 30 35 they're
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 10: making stuff they love Monster Squad or they love the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 10: other stuff we do they would never think of asking
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 10: me and like why not they're like.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: I would never do that to you I want to
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: be in a movie I'm like let's see let's do
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: this and their response.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 10: Is I would never ask you to be in my
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 10: movie I'm like thanks but I want to do movies
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 10: I love doing like call me up I'll help you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 10: out it's fine To an extent. Now, don't everybody flood
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: my email box with, you know, come do my movie.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: I got four grand.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: I got a home video.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: That's right. I got two cam quarters because my grandmother
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: died and she left me hers. I'd be like, that's awesome.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: It could be an amazing movie. It could be awesome.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: It's an experimental film, possibly.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 10: You never know when something can happen, but And that's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: what he always says. If you've got two camcorders in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: your grandma's VCR, go make something.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: Go make a movie.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Go make it.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: Especially now. Hell, you can distribute it yourself.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: You certainly can. And my advice to start is go
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: make a short film.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Go make a short film.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: Again, kind of honing your skills.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Go make four short films instead of one big movie.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: Honing your skills.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: Whoever you are, that is my biggest advice. Go make
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 10: four short films and figure it out.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Learn how to.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 10: Just go make something and put it out there on
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: the internet and show your friends, show the world. And.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you never know if that's something you want to do.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: People are like, I've always wanted to be interested. You know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I live in Tallahassee and you know, I've always wanted
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: to make, I was like, then go make a movie.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Especially now. They're like, I can't make a movie. I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you can. Do you have a phone?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: It was a different story when you were a kid,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: but like now kids growing up, it's like, just make
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: whatever you want. Like half the people that, again, half
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: the people on the internet that are successful don't live
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: in LA anymore. Like they don't have to.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: They don't have to. And a lot of filmmakers are like,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not living in that crazy town. Um, it's not
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: there anymore. We all burnt down last week. So it's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: kind of true. Sadly, sadly it is. Um, but it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: didn't hit the valleys and that's where I live. So
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: it's fine. Um, how long is your house?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: It's I worry about people's stuff. It kind of kills
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: me watching that footage. I'm just like, but all my
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: toys are in there.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: There was sort of a point of view on this
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 10: last fire, which was bad, and I actually knew some
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: people who lost their homes. But if you're living in
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 10: West Hills, Calabasas, or Malibu, it sucks that your stuff
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: got burnt, but you're going to be okay.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: Probably.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: If you're living there and your house got hit, I'm
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: I feel for you. I'm not going to worry about you.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 10: It's when things happen in other neighborhoods and other places,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 10: people are like, it's something devastating. They can never recover.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 10: They're not coming back from that. The people in Malibu
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 10: are going to be just fine. Celebrate their work. Celebrate
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 10: what they do and all that.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Celebrate them. Feel for them. Have some empathy. Don't lose
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: your mind over it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: We're all going to start a Kickstarter for Gerard Butler.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to do that.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: Hope he gets back on his feet.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: He's going to have to go do a sequel to 300. Oh,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: $ 299 or something. Oh, a prequel.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: Wait a minute.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: It's a prequel. Yeah, they meet like the one guy.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: They're like, we can now do it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: They're recruiting. Come on, we need one more, man.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: No thanks, no thanks, no thanks, no thanks.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: And they finally get some guy that's not even capable.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Where are we going with that one? I don't know.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: This is what happens.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: I like where we were before, where you were encouraging
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: people to do their thing. Like, find what you want
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: to do and go make it and put it out
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: there and figure out what you want to do.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Even if it's a podcast. Not one of those. Those
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: are fun. There's so many of those. I don't want
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: to say they're easy to do.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: They're so crushing.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: They are. I have one. And I've done a ton
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: I love it, but it kills me almost.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: But it's super. That's plug and play. Go figure it out.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: If you feel like you write stuff, put it out there.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 10: And I'm not even that super advocate of being artsy
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 10: and doing a lot of creative, but I realize that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 10: I've always been a creative. But I'm also a down-on-the-ground, pounder,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 10: kind of, you.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Know, Go play sports. Go do this.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 10: Go join the military if that's your thing and go
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 10: figure it out and read books.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite. Please go read and learn something. I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: don't know how to read. I don't care what it is.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Just read all over.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 10: Read a wide swath of stuff or find something and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 10: learn all about that one thing. and you get a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: much bigger perspective. Travel, go meet people, and then figure
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 10: it out.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: Don't get stuck. To me, it's back to that experience thing.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: Like I said with you growing up, but it's like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: the same thing even this nonsense that I do. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: nobody cares but me, maybe. But at the same time,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: the coolest stuff I've done over the last decade all
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: came from this show. Every damn thing that I can
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: think of that I'm like, that was awesome.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 9: It all came as a byproduct or a direct.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: Episode of this show. So I'm just like, because i
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: followed one dumb idea and like it's as creative as
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: it needs to be i suppose i again i invest
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: way more time in the editing of it i treat
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: it like it's a work of art i don't know
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: that anyone else feels that way but.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Your work of art doesn't matter it's yeah it's.
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  Speaker 6: My endeavor so yeah go make something that's that's our
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  Speaker 6: that's our takeaway that's our takeaway So tell people.
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  Speaker 1: Go make something, you fools.
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  Speaker 6: Tell people what the next, you said it's coming out soon.
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  Speaker 6: So what's the next phase?
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  Speaker 10: Well, the next phase is figuring out a distribution deal
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  Speaker 10: and a release kind of schedule for the documentary. Hopefully
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  Speaker 10: there's a Blu-ray. There's a theater run, whether it's limited
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 10: or kind of more than limited. Then there's a streaming,
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  Speaker 10: kind of a streaming access deal there after those two things.
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  Speaker 10: To me, that's important here. And then it'll be international
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  Speaker 10: as well. And then that's it. And then hopefully that's
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  Speaker 10: a success. And we've absorbed that and appreciate that. And
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  Speaker 10: we're in the middle of the next thing by the
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  Speaker 10: time that happens. And we get to all hang out
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  Speaker 10: and have fun and go make more stuff.
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  Speaker 6: All right. That sounds like the plan. Go watch the movie,
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  Speaker 6: find the movie, and then you can own the movie.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: It's all of these things.
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  Speaker 10: And so if you want the updates on that, follow
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: any social at the squad doc. so at the squad
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  Speaker 10: doc on Instagram and Twitter. And, you know, we update
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  Speaker 10: that regularly or we make appearances or we'll definitely give you,
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  Speaker 10: you know, release dates and deals and things like that.
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  Speaker 6: And go find him after the fact and tell him
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  Speaker 6: how it changed your life.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to be a thing. It does. It's happened.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully get to enjoy it. And if not, we
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  Speaker 1: just get to hang out anyway.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely. Well, that, that along those lines, thank you for
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: hanging out today.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. This was fun.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks for being on and thank you guys for, for listening. So. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 6: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
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  Speaker 6: geek feed.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 1: She had an aura of broon She was.
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  Speaker 6: Dying You can't hide me.
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  Speaker 1: To the rise they were blue but nobody.
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  Speaker 12: Hung perhaps she could have been a killer if she
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 12: didn't walk the.
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  Speaker 8: Way she do and she do.
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  Speaker 1: She opened strange doors that we never close again.
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  Speaker 4: She began.
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  Speaker 12: To wail tell us this scream waiting at the lights
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  Speaker 12: no one on me.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Scary monsters, super creeps.
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  Speaker 12: Keep me running, running scared.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Scary monsters, super creeps.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 12: Keep me running, running scared She asked me to stay
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  Speaker 12: and I stole her room.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: She asked for my love and I gave her a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: dangerous mind.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 12: Now she's stupid in the street and she can't socialise.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Well I love the little girl and I love her
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: till the day she dies.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 12: Human's guitar sound Jealousy's scream Waiting at the.
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  Speaker 2: Lights No one on me Scary monsters.
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  Speaker 12: Super creeps Keep me running Running scared Scary monsters Super creeps.
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  Speaker 2: I survive creeps. Keep me running. Running scared. Scary monsters,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: super creeps Keep me running, running scared Scary monsters, super
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: creeps Keep me running.
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  Speaker 8: I'm scared.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I was five when you shot this movie.
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  Speaker 12: So the anticipation of, like, stardom, none of that.
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  Speaker 5: I was just like, oh, I'm just.
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  Speaker 12: Doing this thing so my parents can get rent and
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: then I'm going to go back to school. I had
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: no expectations. So it just was sort of this thing
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: that came and went. That happened.
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  Speaker 9: And it wasn't until I was 20 that I started
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 9: to meet people who had found it or who.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Had seen it.
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  Speaker 8: And I was like, I think I was.
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  Speaker 1: In college and I walked into someone's dorm room and
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: there was a poster on the wall.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: And I was like, what?
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  Speaker 4: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: You've seen that movie?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: And they were like, yeah, I'm in that movie. And
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: they were like, what?
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