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- 0:00It is the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:06Maryland football head coach Mike Loxley blames NIL over him
- 0:11losing the locker room last season as the Terps went four
- 0:15and eight after three consecutive bowl wins in the
- 0:18previous three years. If this can happen to a
- 0:20self-proclaimed locker room guy like Locksley, the former
- 0:23Broyles Award winner as top assistant coach at Alabama when
- 0:27he was OC there before becoming Maryland head coach in 20, are
- 0:31we likely facing an epidemic across the country as the days
- 0:35of the amateur athlete are now firmly in the past?
- 0:38Injured superstar point guard Tyrese Halliburton says the
- 0:42dramatic rise and Achilles injuries which took him, Jayson
- 0:45Tatum and Damian Lillard out in the playoffs this year and have
- 0:49sidelined them all, like in all likelihood for all of next
- 0:52season, was just bad luck. We will take a deeper look into
- 0:56the root cause of these Achilles injuries before we make a call
- 0:59to the pen and dive inside baseball on another live, fully
- 1:03loaded, chock full of quality content.
- 1:06Classic episode of. Jabba, then the mouth they're.
- 1:10Going to. Give him a significant.
- 1:12They're going. To have a ton of money to spend.
- 1:14Why not put it in one of the top three offensive?
- 1:17Players in the. League.
- 1:26We're going to be. Looking at Aaron Judge and
- 1:28saying that he. Can't win the big game, Michael
- 1:30Jordan. Said I.
- 1:31Played 82 games, you don't see the fun doing that A.
- 1:35Game where? You got to go before I told you,
- 1:38Giant. Fans.
- 1:39Saquon Barkley at. This.
- 1:41Point. is the number to call.
- 2:54You're listening to a new episode of Jabba and the Mouth.
- 2:59I'm your host. I remarks my Co host Jabba
- 3:02Chamberlain and the speedster executive producer, Mr. Aaron
- 3:06Fish Fishman. Ladies and gentlemen, Poops is
- 3:09not in the studio tonight. He's not feeling very, very
- 3:12well. So Speedy will produce the show
- 3:14and and actually help us in the Co hosting area.
- 3:17And ladies and gentlemen, the NR man himself is in the backstage,
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- 3:47com. It's been a beautiful day today.
- 3:49If anybody lives in Long Island listening to the show right now
- 3:53live and in color on YouTube and all the platforms we are at
- 3:57right now, ladies and gentlemen, it has been a beautiful day.
- 4:00No humidity really. It's been a nice breeze.
- 4:03The sun's been out. The clouds are out.
- 4:06It's about 80° today. This is where Long Island really
- 4:11flexes its muscles when it's a kind of day like this.
- 4:14I love it. It has been a very spiritual
- 4:17day, whatever that means. If, if you're a churchgoer and
- 4:21you're a person that wants to go to, yeah, one of those church
- 4:25days and enjoy the, the reign of, you know, God and, and the
- 4:30priest and reverends and all that other stuff.
- 4:32This is the perfect day, ladies and gentlemen, to go to church
- 4:36and enjoy the whoa, the, the lovely.
- 4:40Well, I was about to say weather, but it, it's weather.
- 4:43Anyways, I, I, I want to get off the weather situation.
- 4:46Speedy, what is up, man? Yeah, I'm doing well.
- 4:48Back of the producers here for the first time in a in a while.
- 4:51Shout out to Tommy. Hope he's feeling better too.
- 4:52I also want to give a shout out. Rest in peace to Ozzy Osbourne,
- 4:55one of the greatest rockers ever, passing away yesterday
- 4:58after his farewell tour with Black Sabbath as well.
- 5:00A big surprise. And if anybody has ever seen the
- 5:03Cosby shows, the Sun, I forget his name.
- 5:07Who? What he played Malcolm Jamal
- 5:08Warner. Malcolm.
- 5:09Yes, he, he passed away too. He drowned at the age I, if I'm
- 5:12not mistaken, 54 years old, 53 years old.
- 5:15He was very, very young. And my mom always told me and my
- 5:19father used to always tell me that it's usually in threes.
- 5:22When somebody dies, they usually go in threes.
- 5:25And yesterday Ozzy Osbourne went, you know, went at what, 76
- 5:30years old, 76 years old, one of the greatest rock singers of all
- 5:34time. A lot of people believe Ozzy
- 5:36Osbourne was at his best when he left Black Sabbath, where he was
- 5:40just Ozzy Osbourne. And I used to watch the Osbourne
- 5:44show was the three seasons were very, very interesting.
- 5:47They are a very interesting family.
- 5:49So my heart goes out to the Osborne family and and the death
- 5:53of one of the greatest singers, one of the greatest rockers, one
- 5:56of the greatest personalities when it came to music and Ozzy
- 5:59Osbourne. So that's a horrible story.
- 6:01Jabba, what's up, man? Not just you guys got great
- 6:04weather today. We got felt like 106.
- 6:07It was, it was a tough one today for us, but and we got all the
- 6:11humidity and all the good stuff. So you guys took all the good
- 6:14stuff from us today, but other than that, got a good workout
- 6:17in, got some stuff watching some baseball.
- 6:20Yankees are up 1. Nothing.
- 6:21Dominguez went deep. So off to a good start.
- 6:24Well, hopefully the Yankees start to pull away in that a
- 6:27division that the Blue Jays have really been dominating over the
- 6:30last five weeks. The Yankees got to get those
- 6:33bats waking up and they got to decide what they're going to do
- 6:36with Anthony Volpe. We will get into that a little
- 6:38bit later. And so I'm sure Jabba has his
- 6:39own thoughts. Actually, me and Jabba were
- 6:41speaking about it on the phone today about where the Yankees or
- 6:45what the Yankees should be doing at the trade deadline in Anthony
- 6:47Volpe. Where did the Yankees go with
- 6:49Anthony Volpe? Do they decide to move them down
- 6:51or send them down? But what?
- 6:52Who are they bringing up to play the shortstop position?
- 6:55You know when somebody loses confidence like Anthony when
- 6:59he's going down to his knees and trying to block, block a shot or
- 7:03like a line drive to put his body in front of it, to throw it
- 7:06to 1st, that scares you if you're a shortstop fan,
- 7:10especially Anthony Volpe fan and it just the confidence level.
- 7:13Everybody wants to blame Aaron Boone, it's Aaron Boone's fault,
- 7:16but Aaron Boone is not playing Anthony Volpe's position.
- 7:20Aaron Boone was 1/3 baseman when he played for the Yankees and
- 7:23when he came from Cincinnati. So, and I believe third bases is
- 7:26a hard defensive position. He's pretty damn good at it.
- 7:30I'm not going to tell you that Aaron Boone is one of the best
- 7:34defensive minded managers in baseball because that would be a
- 7:37lie. But Aaron Boone can only help
- 7:40the kid develop. You can't teach the kid to
- 7:43develop. He's got to figure that out
- 7:44himself. So unfortunately, Anthony Volpe
- 7:47has not figured that out and the Yankees are going to probably
- 7:50start to look deeper into their farm system in the next two
- 7:54years. They do have a young shortstop
- 7:56that day. They I think signed.
- 7:58They got him from the Dominican Republic when he was 16 years
- 8:02old. He's now I, if I'm not mistaken,
- 8:0418, going to be 19. He's still pretty young.
- 8:07They do believe he's A5 tool player.
- 8:09We'll see where that kid, you know, as as the the next two
- 8:13years come along, what what type of player he's going to be when
- 8:17he gets called up from the New York Yankees.
- 8:18Anthony Volpe was the guy that I really thought was going to be a
- 8:20star in this league. But once you lose confidence,
- 8:23Clint Frazier is the the guy that really sticks out to me
- 8:26over the years. Clint Frazier was a 5 to 5 to a
- 8:29player when the Yankees traded for him.
- 8:31If I'm not mistaken, it was Cleveland, right?
- 8:33Yeah, it was. It was the Andrew Miller trade
- 8:34with the Indians at that time. And he came to the Yankees and
- 8:39besides the the problems he had with his cats, if you remember
- 8:42that he never really developed with the New York Yankees, Then
- 8:46eventually the Yankees traded him or let him go.
- 8:49He went to the Sox if I'm not mistaken, and his.
- 8:52Bumped around a bunch of teams. Yeah, his career completely felt
- 8:55flat in his face. I don't want that to happen to
- 8:57Anthony Volpe, but I'm hoping that he figures it out.
- 8:59But the Yankees got to figure out what they're going to do.
- 9:01At 9:45, we'll be talking to 1111 year MLP catcher Jimmy
- 9:05Lawrence will be joining us. He's been on a show before.
- 9:08If you don't remember him, I remember him very, very, very
- 9:12much when he played in 95 with the Yankees, in 96 with the
- 9:15Yankees. But 95, those home runs against
- 9:18Seattle, those stuck out to me the most with Jimmy.
- 9:21And Jimmy is a great personality.
- 9:23Last time he was on the show, he was in, if I'm not mistaken, he
- 9:26was at Yankee Stadium at a playoff game in the, you know,
- 9:30in the press area, so, or wherever he was.
- 9:33But Jimmy is a great guy, very good friend of the show and and
- 9:38a great personality. So I'm interested to hear what
- 9:40he's got to say with the Yankees and what he thinks the Yankees
- 9:43need to do moving forward. But a lot to get into.
- 9:45Maryland football coach Mike Locksley told ESPN that he
- 9:51blames the NIL for the reason his football team lost the
- 9:55locker room of the last year. Locksley said he still took
- 9:59accountability as a head coach, but says the discussions over
- 10:04which players should be given an NIL deal or money each week was
- 10:10a problem. He added that it was a difficult
- 10:13dilemma to reward the younger players with higher upside or
- 10:18the older players that have been committed to Maryland football
- 10:22and their program. Locksley now added added a sign
- 10:27in Maryland locker room telling players to leave their financial
- 10:32statements and car keys outside of the locker room to focus on
- 10:37football. He says that the players since
- 10:40the new court ruling in July on July 1st have been much more
- 10:46focused on football right now rather than how much they're
- 10:50getting paid with their NIL deals.
- 10:53Maryland was four and eight last season after three straight
- 10:58winning seasons from 2021 to 2023, winning a ball game in all
- 11:05three seasons. I don't know much about
- 11:08Locksley, OK, and and me and fish were talking about him off,
- 11:12you know, on the phone today offset of our show and this
- 11:17story. Obviously we knew eventually the
- 11:21nil deals were going to get in the way with players deciding
- 11:26where they're going to go to school or how much money are
- 11:29these players going to be asking for if they're a superstar
- 11:31player or one of the best recruits right now in the
- 11:35country. And again, you just don't know
- 11:37you you could be a four-star, five star recruit or you could
- 11:40be a 3 1/2 star recruit. Ward wasn't even I don't even
- 11:43think he was in any * recruit and look, he was the number one
- 11:46pick in the NFL draft. So again, everybody's going to
- 11:51star you because of what you did in high school.
- 11:53But again, Locksley has a point and he doesn't have a point.
- 11:57This is the same guy that me and Fish were talking about was a
- 12:00part of the Alabama Crimson Tide when he was the offensive
- 12:03coordinator over there with Nick Saban and his son passed away.
- 12:07Now obviously was an accident as far well, I don't even know if
- 12:11it was an accident because he got shot, but nevertheless, he's
- 12:15a guy that eventually stepped down or lost his job and he got
- 12:19the job over here with Maryland. And Maryland is a good
- 12:23basketball program. They're not really known for
- 12:25their football. We've had a couple of their
- 12:27college football players on our show over the years and they're
- 12:31they're a good, they're good sports program.
- 12:34They're just not really known for their football.
- 12:37But Locksley is a known coach in the NCAA and he's trying to find
- 12:43ways to pay his players. And the NIL deals are going to
- 12:47move forward no matter if they can.
- 12:50They decide who they're going to pay and what players are going
- 12:53to get paid over the next couple of years or what player is going
- 12:57to be recruited or who is going to get recruited and how much
- 13:00money they're going to get through that recruitment.
- 13:02Now, the NIL deals are also something that a lot of people
- 13:06talk about and I don't realize that for years, even though
- 13:09there was not NIL deals, there was money being pushed under the
- 13:12table. So to think, even though NINIL
- 13:16deals are here and they're here to stay, as far as we know right
- 13:19now, there's no guarantees that some of these players aren't
- 13:23getting paid under the table. And again, Loxley could sit
- 13:27there and and make all the excuses in the world.
- 13:30Who's going to get what and what should get what and who should
- 13:32get this and who should get that?
- 13:35The cheerleaders, are they going to get some of that NIL deal
- 13:37because they're a world renowned top end Division One
- 13:41cheerleading squad? No, the fact is they're going to
- 13:44be handed a lot of money or they're going to be handed a
- 13:46certain amount of money and they got to decide who deserves what
- 13:49when you talk about 5 star recruits.
- 13:51And, and again, I will get into my opinion here on what I think
- 13:56how they should settle, how the NILNIL deal should be divided
- 14:00out to any player from any one of their programs, from baseball
- 14:05to hockey to basketball to football.
- 14:08You have to look at it and in a big understanding of what you do
- 14:12in high school. High school players.
- 14:15You work your ass off playing high school ball.
- 14:17Baseball, hockey, football, whatever you play in high
- 14:22school, you try to be the best player you could possibly be.
- 14:25Why? Because you get graded.
- 14:28When you come out of high school in football you get graded.
- 14:31Either a three star recruit, A2 star recruit, A4 star recruit,
- 14:35or a five star recruit, 5 star being the highest.
- 14:39If you're a five star recruit with NILDOS you should be
- 14:43getting the most money because if you're a five star recruit
- 14:46you're one of the best players in the country going into
- 14:49college. Now that doesn't mean you stay a
- 14:51five star recruit. I do believe if you're a five
- 14:54star recruit your first year you should get 5 star recruit and
- 14:58I'll deal money after that depending on how you play.
- 15:04That is where the team decides on how much you make.
- 15:07Furthermore, after your first season as a five star recruit,
- 15:11because after your first season you could be considered a three
- 15:14star recruit even though you're not, the fact is these NIL deals
- 15:19are going to get into the way of how these players decide what,
- 15:24where these these players decide where they want to go in the
- 15:27future. You want to go if you're playing
- 15:29football, you want to play for Alabama, you want to play for
- 15:31Georgia, you want to play for USC, you want to play for the
- 15:34you want to play for the top recruiting programs in the
- 15:37country. Usually in college football,
- 15:40it's the SEC. In college basketball now you
- 15:45have obviously the East, which has been very, very good with
- 15:48UConn and Villanova and some of the best teams we've seen being
- 15:52put together over the last 10 years in college basketball.
- 15:56And now you have Patino with St. John's over there.
- 15:59So you have all these top and head coaches, Calipari
- 16:03obviously, or what he's doing right now.
- 16:05And then you have baseball and baseball, obviously we all know
- 16:10who the best baseball team over the last 10 years has been, and
- 16:13that's the LSU Tiger. So the SEC is very big when it
- 16:18comes to baseball as well. So you you look at that and
- 16:22that's where if you're a top recruit and we had Preston, we
- 16:25went to his and I was, I was hosting his event.
- 16:28Preston was a 4 1/2 star recruit, so he had Georgia,
- 16:33Rutgers. Who's the other team species?
- 16:35Florida and. Auburn, Florida and.
- 16:37Auburn, those were the four teams.
- 16:38All four teams were Division One schools, all four of them.
- 16:43And you look at the big picture here, it was probably Georgia or
- 16:47Florida is where you would if you were any one of these other
- 16:51recruited guys sitting there. And looking at all four of those
- 16:54teams, you're probably going with either Florida because
- 16:57they've been such a great recruiting program in college
- 17:00football, or ladies and gentlemen, you're probably going
- 17:03to Georgia Bulldogs because they want back-to-back championships,
- 17:06the last one in 2022. They have one of the best
- 17:09recruiting classes that are going to be put together in the
- 17:12next two years. So I have top three.
- 17:15So, you know, and they have one of the best coaches right now in
- 17:18college football. So we we look at NIL deals.
- 17:21You have to look at where they're ranked.
- 17:25How would their rank coming out of school.
- 17:27That is where I believe he divide out the money.
- 17:30Now, it's going to be very, very hard.
- 17:32If you're a player that's been playing for that college
- 17:35football team, you didn't decide to portal in to play for another
- 17:38team. That's why you have a portal.
- 17:40If you know a player's being brought in and he's going to be
- 17:43offered this amount of money for NIL, then you go into the portal
- 17:47and you go somewhere that's going to pay you some other team
- 17:49or some some other program that's going to pay you more.
- 17:52There are so many ways now when it comes to college sports where
- 17:57you're the player is really in the driver's seat.
- 17:59It used to never be that way. It never was really that way
- 18:04when you decided to go to a certain school, you know that
- 18:08you're going to be on, you're going to be playing for that
- 18:10school for the three or four years you're going to be there.
- 18:13The only time you could decide to portal out of there in which
- 18:16they did, they gave you a chance, you would have to miss
- 18:20one year of eligibility. So that's the problem with
- 18:23college sports now. You can't, you don't have to
- 18:26worry about that. There's a portal and every
- 18:28single year, actually, I think it's like you got 2 times.
- 18:31Yeah, the second. Time you transferred, then you
- 18:33have to wait a year, right, So. You get 2 chances if you want to
- 18:37portal to another school and that opens up so many
- 18:41possibilities for these players to decide, hey, you know what, I
- 18:44could go here. I can.
- 18:45I'm playing for Georgia right now.
- 18:47I'm one of the best defensive players on his team right now
- 18:49and they're bringing in two or three five star recruits.
- 18:52They're going to be taking my spot at least another year.
- 18:54I want to play two more years of college football.
- 18:56I'll go to Florida, I'll be a starter and they're going to
- 18:58give me more money for my talent.
- 19:01That's the facts and I and I think that's the way the NIL
- 19:04deal is going to work until obviously the NCAA figures out
- 19:09how it makes sense. Now, like I said, when you're
- 19:11getting recruited, I think first you should be looking at where
- 19:16they're ranked in the country. If you're a five star recruit,
- 19:19right off the bat, you should be making a certain amount of money
- 19:22there shouldn't that should definitely show these players in
- 19:26and tell these players, hey, you know what, you want to be a high
- 19:29recruit, you want to have, you want to get a lot of money as an
- 19:32NLNIL player. Well, guess what?
- 19:34You got to be a four, four or five star recruit to get that
- 19:38money. That's the only way you're going
- 19:39to make that money in your first year.
- 19:41And if you don't do that well, you're not going to make that
- 19:44much money because the other players that were playing for
- 19:47the team for two or three years and they're decided to stay
- 19:50there are going to because they were such high recruits and
- 19:53they're still great players. They're going to make that money
- 19:55too. And you know, and Jabba and
- 19:57speedy, you know what still is the most important position even
- 20:01in college football? That's the quarterback.
- 20:03So you know if that quarterback is a top recruit, A4 star
- 20:07recruit and he even if he. He wasn't.
- 20:09If he's a great player, like we just said, Ward, the guy wasn't.
- 20:13I don't even think when he was recruited he had any stars.
- 20:17I don't even think he was at a Yeah, he was.
- 20:19At a HBCUI, think it was it was somewhere out West.
- 20:24I think it was in Texas too before he transferred to
- 20:25Washington State. I forgot the name of the school
- 20:28but he was at one of those HBCU schools or one of those like
- 20:31second tier Division One schools and I don't think he was even
- 20:35recruited. He was a 0.
- 20:36Star recruit as coach Mr. Fish says over here on the, you know,
- 20:40fan private chat. I, I will say this, the nil
- 20:44deals are going to be a problem. It's everybody says it.
- 20:48Look at Deion Sanders. He was cheating right off the
- 20:51bat when he went to Colorado. He's going to Saudi Arabia and
- 20:54trying to seek millions and millions of dollars from these
- 20:57Princess. How many people know that Saudi
- 21:00Arabia's Arabia is one of the biggest and most expensive
- 21:04countries and big profit countries in the world?
- 21:07Why? Because of their oil.
- 21:09That is why, ladies and gentlemen, so that you know
- 21:12Deion Sanders, Prime isn't stupid.
- 21:14So you know what Prime did? He went to the one place he
- 21:17thought nobody was going to discover where he was going to
- 21:21take money to the States and pay his players off.
- 21:24So Deion Sanders deserves my golf clap if we had one.
- 21:28Nevertheless, you look at the big picture here.
- 21:31I just look at the Maryland situation, Locksley, he's going
- 21:34to say whatever he wants. Loxy's going to play complain
- 21:37like every other coach. Nick Saban decided to step down
- 21:40after, what, two years ago because he said, you know what,
- 21:43I don't want to deal with the NIL deals.
- 21:45Dabo Sweeney has been bitching and moaning about these NIL
- 21:48deals. But guess what?
- 21:50These college coaches are making millions and millions of dollars
- 21:53and making it off the recruiting classes they bring in and try to
- 21:57win national championships. So I'm not going to cry the
- 22:00river for any one of those guys like Dabo Sweeney, who's making
- 22:0310 million, or even Nick Saban at one point that was making 13
- 22:07million, James Franklin. I think, how about Bill
- 22:08Belichick? What's that guy making right
- 22:10now? I mean, seriously?
- 22:12And he's not even running that team.
- 22:13His girlfriend is. His fiance is running that North
- 22:17Carolina team as she's flashing and dancing and making decisions
- 22:20for Bill Belichick that Bill Belichick knew knew nothing
- 22:23about it. So it just shows you the way
- 22:27college sports is moving. That's why Bill Belichick went
- 22:30to North Carolina. Don't get it twisted.
- 22:32It had nothing to do with his father because his father
- 22:34coached there and had nothing to do with, hey, you know what, I'm
- 22:38going to run this organization to the and I'm going to win
- 22:40national championships. No, it's the money thing.
- 22:43He knows that the way he can recruit players is going and
- 22:49jumping from one hand to another and finding ways to get money to
- 22:52get the best recruiting, recruiting players in the
- 22:55country to come and play for him.
- 22:57And that's why Bill and he doesn't have to deal with those
- 23:00pro players bitching and moaning and and game playing from one
- 23:04team to another. He doesn't really have to do
- 23:06that. You know what he has to do?
- 23:07All he's got to do is raise men. He is so used to doing that as
- 23:12he was raining, raising a lot of stupid asses over there in New
- 23:15England and still winning championships.
- 23:17So there's no lie about that. I just think and and again, Fish
- 23:21and me went back and forth on this.
- 23:23The NIL deal really has brought open opportunity for these
- 23:28players to not only bring a generational money home to their
- 23:32in good and good and bad ways. Yes, yes, generational money
- 23:37that'll help their families in the long run, but it also brings
- 23:41problems when it comes like Staba was saying, it brings
- 23:44problems on how do you decide or where do you decide the money
- 23:48will go and what program is especially when you go into a
- 23:52college like let's say LSU, they got a good baseball team, they
- 23:55got a good football team and they have a decent basketball
- 23:57team. Where does that money go if you
- 24:00have all these big recruiting classes every single year with
- 24:03great programs? Where does that money go where
- 24:06you can distinctly understand how it would work throughout
- 24:10every single season? Locksley has a point there.
- 24:13But Locksley shouldn't be bitching because this is a good
- 24:16problem to have. This is not a bad problem to
- 24:19have, Speedy. No, it's not.
- 24:20It's not a bad problem. And also I think the approach
- 24:23that Locksley is saying it has to be something that a lot of
- 24:25these kind of second tier Power 5 schools are going to take on
- 24:28like you're doing with Maryland. Like you said, Maryland's not
- 24:30really known as a football school.
- 24:31They're not. They're a basketball,
- 24:32Basketball. School, they're a good lacrosse
- 24:34school. They're pretty, they're up and
- 24:36down with hockey, I think, but mainly basketball like you were
- 24:38saying, especially when they were in the ACC football, they
- 24:41had a they've had a few good years recently, but again,
- 24:43they've never been known Again, it's a tough conference they're
- 24:45in, in the Big 10 E, they're playing with Ohio State,
- 24:47Michigan and Penn State, but still never really known for
- 24:50their football. And that's why I think you have
- 24:51to establish yourself when it comes to the recruiting aspect
- 24:54to get those five star recruits to want to come to a school like
- 24:57Maryland and make them pick Maryland over those Big 10
- 25:00schools, over those other schools in that region, that ACC
- 25:03schools that could have a better football reputation.
- 25:06And that's why I think him having the dilemma of doing that
- 25:08last season when they were struggling did not make a lot of
- 25:11sense. I think you want to establish
- 25:13that for the five star players to not only do that, but also
- 25:15want to stay there. If there is going to be a turn
- 25:18around, get a bowl, bowl season, a six or seven win season.
- 25:21If there's going to be a turn around in that program, it's
- 25:23going to have to come with those five star recruits staying there
- 25:26and developing there. And like you're saying too, it's
- 25:28hard in football, especially when those rosters are triple
- 25:31the size of NFL rosters. It's over 100 on a college
- 25:34roster because a lot of them are red shirted.
- 25:36A lot of them are like transferred over and they can't
- 25:39play right away. And there's a lot of duplicate
- 25:40numbers. I you look at the roster.
- 25:42So it's like almost double the size of an NFL roster.
- 25:45And depending on the type of program that you are, that means
- 25:47you're looking at more. Not all, not all of them are
- 25:49going to get NI. Well, if you're on.
- 25:50The practice squad you're if you're not a top recruit, so
- 25:54yeah, I would imagine. Not all of them are not even
- 25:56like maybe half of them are going to get nil if you're a. 4
- 25:581/2 or 4 *5 star recruit, you're going to be a starter or you're
- 26:02going to be right behind the starters, the backups, the to be
- 26:05their backups. There's no way you're going to
- 26:07be recruiting. You're going to say listen,
- 26:09you're going to be red shirted the first year.
- 26:11It used to be that way when I was deciding to go to Maine, New
- 26:14Hampshire in Niagara, I was told and I was one of the best United
- 26:18States. I was top, top 20 United States
- 26:21hockey player. When I was 17 years old.
- 26:23I decided to go to Niagara because I did not want to go to
- 26:28Maine in New Hampshire and be red shirted my first year
- 26:30because of some of the best play.
- 26:31Remember these, the New Hampshire and Maine at the time
- 26:34were two of the best college programs in the country.
- 26:37So they have all the top recruits from the year before
- 26:41and the year before playing college hockey.
- 26:43Because in the NHL you want to play four years before you even
- 26:47go to the NHL. No matter how high of a draft
- 26:49pick you are, you're probably playing at least three to four
- 26:53years before you decide, hey, I'm going to play juniors or
- 26:56hey, I'm going to play AHL hockey.
- 26:58So it's a different world, world with different sports like
- 27:02Jabba, AAA, AA, Single A. And if you get drafted, more
- 27:06than likely you're not playing college ball, as we all know.
- 27:09Garrett Cole. Garrett Cole was drafted by the
- 27:13New York Yankees and he decided, you know what, I'm going to play
- 27:16college ball. I am going to rebut that and I'm
- 27:20going to go and play for, if I'm not mistaken, UCLAUCLA.
- 27:24Yeah. And then he then was a first
- 27:27round draft pick because the Yankees drafted him in the in
- 27:29the mid 20s. He goes back into the draft and
- 27:32he gets drafted by Pittsburgh and he was the number one pick,
- 27:35if I'm not mistaken. So we went from like in the 20s
- 27:39to all the way the number one. And Garrett Cole is one of the
- 27:42best pitchers when healthy in all of baseball.
- 27:44So we all know the type of talent that he is.
- 27:47But at the time there were no NIL deals because if baseball
- 27:52had NIL deals at that time, I could tell you this, Steven
- 27:56Strasburg doesn't jump all the way to the major leagues as fast
- 27:59as he did. Rice, Harper, all these guys
- 28:02that went into the draft. How about this, do you think,
- 28:06and there is a quarterback in Kyla Murray, If there were NIL
- 28:10deals and he was as good of a baseball player like they say he
- 28:14was, do you think he goes to football or decides, hey, you
- 28:18know what, I could play 4 years of college baseball and make
- 28:22more money doing that and then go into the major leagues.
- 28:25He was a top what, 10 first round draft pick?
- 28:27If I was the 6th pick by the end, Hold on.
- 28:30Harold Cole was drafted in the first round out of high school.
- 28:33Yeah, I know that. He decided not.
- 28:36No, you said 20th. What?
- 28:38Yeah, He was drafted 28th in the first round.
- 28:40Yes, that's what I mean. He was in the 20s, still a first
- 28:43round. Yeah, it was a first round pick.
- 28:45And then he decided I want to go.
- 28:47I know he's drafted out of high school.
- 28:49And then he had to. He wanted to decide if he's
- 28:51going to play college ball or play for the Yankees and he
- 28:54decided he wanted to go play college ball.
- 28:56So he rebutted the the draft and the Yankees got an extra first
- 29:00round draft pick because Garrett Cole decided to go back to to go
- 29:04play for UCLA. The fact is, at the time,
- 29:07Garrett Cole was a Yankee and that's why the Yankees were
- 29:10gunning for him when Houston was fighting to give him another
- 29:13contract and it's extend him. The Yankees grabbed the guy that
- 29:17Brian Cashman drafted years before he decided to go play
- 29:20college ball. What I'm saying here is you're
- 29:23going to see that NIL deals are going to drive these young kids
- 29:27to decide, hey, you know what? I don't know what I'm going to
- 29:30do as a pro. I could still make generational
- 29:33type of money playing college sports.
- 29:36And if I make a pro team, I still get a full scholarship.
- 29:41I'm still making millions of dollars as a as as a college
- 29:44player. I got nothing to worry about.
- 29:47The NFL, the NBA, the MLB, the NHL, that's all A+ to me.
- 29:52When I move forward after four years of college, this will push
- 29:55kids to decide, hey, you know what?
- 29:56I'll play my 4 years of college. I'm not going to rush into
- 30:00playing professional sports because I'm making them money.
- 30:02I understand that. But Speedy, you brought up
- 30:04something about the NIL money and you know, these five star
- 30:08guys wanting to keep them for four years.
- 30:10This is what I hate about the transfer portal because what
- 30:13like and you brought this up when you brought up saving and
- 30:15raising young men and Belichick, right?
- 30:18Well, are we truly raising young men?
- 30:21Because if you say and let's let's do this as a commitment to
- 30:24anything you do in life. And when it?
- 30:27Gets harder if you don't like it.
- 30:28Or you can go make more money. Oh, I'm just going to leave.
- 30:31Are we truly? Raising young men where hey, I
- 30:35can go and make more money, or hey, I didn't get the money I
- 30:37thought, or I didn't get the playing time.
- 30:39I can just leave and go Willy nilly.
- 30:41So are we really raising young men in the aspect of them and
- 30:46their morale? Are we just making them good
- 30:48business people? Those are two.
- 30:51Different things, they go hand in hand, but if this gets hard,
- 30:55I don't get any playing time. Let me go take an extra year.
- 30:58I don't have to sit out. I can maybe go make a little bit
- 31:02of money, but oh, I'm not playing.
- 31:05So I'm going to leave because I don't like it.
- 31:07Wham, Wham. Well, if you don't like it, play
- 31:09better. So are we truly raising young
- 31:12men? Are we raising young businessmen
- 31:14and women? Well, and I, you go back to this
- 31:17and, and, and again, going back to the NIL deals, we go back to
- 31:20the coaches and what the coaches stand for.
- 31:23Is it good for the player to see the coaches?
- 31:25Hey, you know what somebody's offering me from 7 million to 13
- 31:28million. I'm I'm the reason why you're
- 31:30making all that money. I'm the reason why you're ranked
- 31:33in the top ten in all of the country.
- 31:35I'm the reason why you're up for a national championship.
- 31:37OK, So if that's the case, they they're getting that money based
- 31:41upon projection. And that's let's that's any
- 31:44draft, right? Like that's we're not, we're not
- 31:46talking crazy in that. But.
- 31:48Also, when it comes down to it, OK, we're offering say it.
- 31:52Let's just use 10 million as an example, just an EV number.
- 31:56OK, you're a five star coming in and you kind of touched on this
- 31:58a little bit and you come in and you aren't a five star, OK,
- 32:03you're going to get a signing bonus, but now you're not
- 32:06getting all of that money. That's where I think you were
- 32:09trying to get into, like, OK, you come in, you haven't played
- 32:13a snap in college football. We're talking SEC where they're
- 32:15getting the big money. Nebraska is one of the top ten
- 32:18schools of NIL money just because you have all these rich
- 32:20farmers from western NE. We have the most.
- 32:23We have the most billionaires per capita.
- 32:26I'm going to say. Riolis and Nil deal was pretty
- 32:28big I'm pretty sure. But yeah, but you got to forget
- 32:31they're not, they're just adding monetary.
- 32:33They're not adding the apartment that he got, the free cars that
- 32:36he gets. That's on top of everything.
- 32:39And. So.
- 32:41For me. It's like, and you touched on it
- 32:43where it's like, OK, you haven't played a snap.
- 32:46So you come in and you're this guy, right?
- 32:49Well, now you're not that guy and you got benched.
- 32:52Oh, you still expect that money? That's where it comes in.
- 32:55Are we raising men? Are you raising young
- 32:58businessmen and women? OK, because now he doesn't like
- 33:00it. He can go to another school and
- 33:02make money. What choice do?
- 33:04You have for a program like Maryland, though, if you're
- 33:07getting, if you're not getting, if you're getting stagnant with
- 33:09football, they've made some few bowl games Fish was showing the
- 33:11highlights of the the Mayo bowl game or the mayonnaise stuff
- 33:14they've made they've. More and more bowl games than
- 33:16us. No, I.
- 33:17Know that that's what I'm saying, like a lot of those
- 33:18programs really don't have that kind of choice to be able to
- 33:21just shy that away. Otherwise you end up with
- 33:23coaches like Dabo Sweeney that are just going to be anti
- 33:26transfer portal and a program like Clemson, maybe you can get
- 33:29away with that because they have a good reputation.
- 33:30A program like Maryland cannot get away with.
- 33:32Do you cap? It per team or do you cap it
- 33:34like do you tear it like OK, 5432 or do you like OK, this
- 33:41sport gets this because obviously we know the footballs
- 33:44and the basketballs are the money driven sports, right?
- 33:47For us, it's not really like we're a different we're a
- 33:49volleyball school and you know, we've got decent basketball,
- 33:53nothing, nothing crazy, crazy good.
- 33:55But you know, we get good attendance, obviously have great
- 33:57NIL and we get some decent players, don't get me wrong.
- 34:00But we're a volleyball school and a football school and most
- 34:03are football, basketball and and then there's football, baseball,
- 34:07it's it's it's kind of all over the place.
- 34:09But my question is do do we cap it per player wise?
- 34:13And I and. Speedy, I get what you're
- 34:14saying. It's like some of these schools
- 34:16don't have the opportunity, but then you got like Oklahoma State
- 34:19or somebody like that that has Boone pickings that just gives
- 34:22billions of dollars. Mind you, he's passed away, but
- 34:24you know his his trust and his family.
- 34:27So I don't know the right do you do it because then it's kind of
- 34:31unfair. Do you make it like a luxury tax
- 34:33where it becomes like, OK, this school gets if it goes above
- 34:36this mount, then a Division One mid major like a South Dakota
- 34:41State or something around like I'm just thinking around here
- 34:45where it's like then it goes, it trickles down.
- 34:47I just don't know the right answer of of how to succumb
- 34:50that. I think the NCAA will obviously
- 34:54win the new rules and and the transformation of where the NCAA
- 34:59is going to go with the NIL deals in the next three to four
- 35:02years. They're going to have some kind
- 35:03of plan. I'm sure a lot of different
- 35:06schools and programs, top schools and programs are going
- 35:08to find ways where it'll make it easier to get the recruiting
- 35:12players that they want because everybody knows and and it's the
- 35:15truth. Depending on the sport, the top
- 35:18ten schools to play basketball, the top ten schools to play
- 35:21football, the top ten schools to play baseball and the top ten
- 35:25schools to play hockey. So and then volleyball and then
- 35:28lacrosse. Schools that are giving the
- 35:30money no matter what. So if you know that they're
- 35:33they're the tops of of their programs in those areas, that's
- 35:38where the money is going to probably be divided out with
- 35:41those schools. Like Duke is not known for their
- 35:44football, even though they've guys like Riley Leonard, they've
- 35:46had players come out. Obviously there's yeah, Danny
- 35:51Dimes that came from the organization.
- 35:53Well, the program. And then you look at what do
- 35:55they know for? They know for their lacrosse,
- 35:56which is one of the best in the country every single year, and
- 35:59their basketball, the Duke Blue Devils, which has really been a
- 36:03powerhouse since Coach K went there.
- 36:05So then you're looking OK, where if I want to go and play for a
- 36:09top collegiate school where I'm going to get a great degree, I'm
- 36:12going to Duke. Because their program is telling
- 36:15you right now that you're probably going to an elite 8:00
- 36:18every single year, a Sweet 16 every single year, definitely a
- 36:21tournament. And their their college lacrosse
- 36:23team always wins. They've won five national
- 36:26championships in like 1213 years.
- 36:29So that that's where you want to go.
- 36:31If you're going to Duke, those are the two programs you're
- 36:34going to jump into. It's about it's about money.
- 36:36And I know fish is going to go into this too, because it to me,
- 36:40it's not about how you divide it out.
- 36:43It's when you look at these players and the type of
- 36:45recruiting players they are, is lacrosse that big of an
- 36:48important sport to go and watch? Is that going to bring a lot of
- 36:51money to, you know, the the program?
- 36:53No, the two programs, like you were saying, Jabba, that really
- 36:58drives those schools is the basketball program and the
- 37:01football program. Football being #1 basketball
- 37:03being #2 that's a fact. Go look at it.
- 37:06Go look at it. Even you look at the NBA in the
- 37:08NFL right now and why they're bringing in so much 10s of
- 37:11millions of dollars through sponsors and endorsements and
- 37:15all that other stuff. It's because of what those
- 37:17sports, those sports bring back, bring back worldwide.
- 37:21Now football is big in England. They might have an English team,
- 37:25maybe in the future. Germany.
- 37:27We saw our first Germany game a couple of years ago with Tom
- 37:31Brady. Remember that?
- 37:32Australia, Brazil, the first game of the season this past
- 37:36year, last year. I I think if I was a mistake, it
- 37:39was Green Bay and somebody else. Yeah, Philly.
- 37:41And that was. When, if I if I'm not mistaken,
- 37:44Love got hurt, He got hurt. Now, have they done one in
- 37:47London or was that baseball? They've done it a couple of
- 37:51times and he's both on London too.
- 37:52The Jaguars are an organization that might want to their owner
- 37:56is from He's foreign, he's a billionaire, and he's always
- 38:00wanted to move the Jacksonville Jaguars to England.
- 38:02Owns Premier League teams over there as well.
- 38:05I've always thought the perfect name if they move there is the
- 38:08London Knights. Wouldn't that be just I could
- 38:11see the jersey, I could see the merch, It just is like perfect.
- 38:14I can't believe no one's taken that before.
- 38:17I was in a Madden. Franchise with my brother and
- 38:19the Chargers move and became nuts.
- 38:21That's interesting. I would imagine it would look
- 38:23like a chess piece or something like that.
- 38:25You know what I mean? And you know what I would, you
- 38:27know what I would have as a my logo, I would have the sword in
- 38:30the stone. That's what I would have.
- 38:33I like that. I see there's so much merch you
- 38:34can get out of it. Makes so much sense.
- 38:36I mean, there's only so many people who really love Jaguars,
- 38:39I think out there. But this whole thing, Errol, we
- 38:44were talking about earlier today, you've mentioned a couple
- 38:46of times. I just see this as like the
- 38:48coach getting really frustrated like all right, so I've got star
- 38:52players they have to get paid. Then I have starters, they have
- 38:56to get paid. But those starters, a bunch of
- 38:57them were two star and three star guys that developed and now
- 39:01they're going into their senior year.
- 39:03So they need to get paid, but I can't pay all of them because I
- 39:06also need to pay the freshman quarterback coming in.
- 39:09I got to pay these backup that, you know, the six foot seven
- 39:12£400 lineman who can't play at all right now, but I got to pay
- 39:16them because I'm going to develop them.
- 39:17So now this guy when or other guys like a red shirt freshman,
- 39:21you know, five star guy who's not playing this year is walking
- 39:25around campus flaunting money and you're a starter on the team
- 39:29and you're looking like a punk and he's probably talking shit
- 39:32about you too because he's got this money and you don't.
- 39:36So what's going to happen? You're going to transfer out of
- 39:38there, right? You're going to go where you can
- 39:40be big dog on campus. So now all these teams are going
- 39:43to lose their mid tier pieces, their depth and all they're
- 39:46going to have is a bunch of really good players and a bunch
- 39:49of guys that aren't there yet. And you're going to have these
- 39:52locker room issues. You're going to see a completely
- 39:54fall apart. This Maryland program.
- 39:56This guy is gone as a head coach if he can't figure this out this
- 39:59year. I mean, the fact that he
- 40:00admitted it as very brave of him.
- 40:02I think it very stand up guy to say like, you know, I screwed
- 40:04up. This is why.
- 40:06I did not know how to handle it. And he said, I'll put my, my, my
- 40:09desk in the locker room. He's not going to let anyone
- 40:12talk about money in the locker room.
- 40:13He's going to try to make that. I don't know if that works
- 40:15either, though. Like that's, that's like, how
- 40:18are you going to get people to stop talking about this?
- 40:19It's you can't stop talking about it.
- 40:22I don't know. I mean Jabba in the pros, I
- 40:25would imagine it's a little different, you know, as far as
- 40:27the professionalism of talking about it, but I'm sure you still
- 40:30see some of that, right? Yeah, I mean you do obviously I
- 40:34think it's a little bit different because there's I mean
- 40:37there's a lot of obviously the USA TODAY everybody's opening
- 40:41salaries is on opening day. So you can kind of see
- 40:44everybody. I mean the thing that probably
- 40:46is the only difference is endorsements and that's about
- 40:49it. But I think more so on the on
- 40:53the college side is you do see that two or three guy that is
- 40:56like, OK, well, I've earned my right.
- 40:58Like I was only getting, you know, 10 grand or 20 grand.
- 41:03And now, you know, you're bringing in, you know, this kid
- 41:06that hasn't done anything. And I've proven and we've gotten
- 41:092 bowl games while I've been here.
- 41:10Why are you going to give him, you know, 500 grand and I'm
- 41:13still only getting 10. So I can see it, But and it it's
- 41:17just harder and I, I've tried to learn as much as I could about
- 41:21the nil and it's still still all kind of over the place as far as
- 41:26like logistics and how it works. So I don't know if it's public.
- 41:30I don't know if you can go and look as what you were.
- 41:34Saying before Java like how, how are they going to distribute
- 41:37them to good programs versus like the most profitable sports,
- 41:40right and. It's like, it's like, OK, yeah,
- 41:42you have profitable in one sport.
- 41:43I don't know the balance, I don't know the right answer,
- 41:45but. I think it's.
- 41:46Tough too, because that like fish.
- 41:49That's a great question because like the unknown is like is this
- 41:52dude really making the 300 grand that I heard or is you know that
- 41:56just hearsay. You still got guys like still
- 41:58growing up, they're still teenagers.
- 42:00So I mean, that's a big deal. Like once you're in the big
- 42:02leagues, it's like. Hey, I'm.
- 42:04Here, I'm making good money. Obviously some guys are making
- 42:07crazy money, but you're like, I'm doing all right.
- 42:09The NIL deals also, even though there's a certain amount of
- 42:12money that you can dish out to certain a certain one of these
- 42:14players and superstar players that they're going to bring up
- 42:18or bring in either through the portal or through, you know,
- 42:21recruiting them. They're they're still money
- 42:23going to be pitched under the table.
- 42:25And I don't care what anybody says, there's still going to be
- 42:28crooked owner, you know, crooked schools that are going to have
- 42:32the coaches do it or they're going to have somebody handing,
- 42:36handing these kids some kind of money where everything that
- 42:39they're like probably not getting because the team, the
- 42:43school's get saying, you know what, we're going to give it to
- 42:45this guy and we're going to give you some money under the table.
- 42:48That to me is going to be something that the NCAA is going
- 42:52to have to look at too in the future because that it's not
- 42:56only going to be the big recruiting schools, it's going
- 42:58to be the smaller ones. Because that is more likely to
- 43:01happen in the smaller schools. Knowing that they're going to be
- 43:05able to dish that kind of money and try to get a top tight end
- 43:08or a top quarterback or whatever they decide they think is best
- 43:12for their school and and winning or trying to win a ball game.
- 43:15Because remember, every time you go and play in a ball game when
- 43:17it comes to college football, you'll automatically, if I'm not
- 43:20mistaken, making $10 million. Yeah, I think the.
- 43:22Conference gets a percentage too, which is going incentive
- 43:26for football programs other sports to be able to grow that
- 43:29way too. Jeff was saying to like a
- 43:31certain types of bowl games depending on the level of bowl
- 43:33games will get a certain amount of money as well.
- 43:35It's a it's. A good argument to where the NIL
- 43:38is going to go. And obviously they're going to
- 43:40have to sit down and decide how this money is going to be
- 43:42divvied out or how this portal thing that they have right now,
- 43:46which everybody is using because I want to go play on play with
- 43:50Deion Sanders. And then after that, you don't
- 43:51like Dion, I want to go and be coached by Davos Sweeney or one
- 43:55of these other guys. I want to go to Georgia.
- 43:57I want to go to Tennessee because they're a great program
- 43:59and I love the coach. Or I want to go and be coached
- 44:01by Bill Belichick's wife or fiance, future wife and like to
- 44:05look at that, those tits and ass for the next couple of years.
- 44:08I wouldn't mind that. Maybe she's got some friends for
- 44:11me. If I'm a five star.
- 44:12Don't tell. Don't tell Catherine that.
- 44:17I mean we. Know that we know that's part of
- 44:19it too, right? Hey, I can I this and
- 44:21everything. I won't drop names, but we had a
- 44:23house that you went to when you when it was recruiting weekend.
- 44:27I wonder what? Java, it's true what you were
- 44:29doing there. Everybody does.
- 44:31Hey Java, I asked AI to show us what the Nebraska rich
- 44:37businessmen look like and it came up with this for us.
- 44:44Nice, sounds about right. The corn.
- 44:47Mafia corn. Is there actually a corn Mafia?
- 44:51Is there really, I, I would assume all those farmers in
- 44:55western Nebraska. I, I don't necessarily know, but
- 44:58like if you, if you cross, like if you try to like cross
- 45:01pollinate, like and like get over and somebody's like, it
- 45:04could be a row of whether it's beans or corn or wheat or
- 45:09barley. Like it's, yeah, it's, it's
- 45:11fighting words. Like I got a buddy his, they,
- 45:14they farm 21,000 acres. And so, yeah, it's those what
- 45:19you say about my barley. Yeah.
- 45:21What did you say? About my barley speaking.
- 45:24And the best part is one of one of my good buddies in in western
- 45:27Nebraska, he works for a financial company as and
- 45:31literally they meet every morning for coffee and he just
- 45:34manages their money. That's all he does.
- 45:36They meet every morning for coffee and their average eight.
- 45:39Well, he's he's 4048 and he took over for a good friend of mine's
- 45:45dad who retired and he was like 8 like 80.
- 45:49And he's like, yeah, these dudes are like 848180.
- 45:53And he goes, we sit and have coffee every morning and talk
- 45:56about what we need to do. It's.
- 45:58Coffee. It's coffee.
- 46:01It's coffee, coffee, coffee. Well, speaking about farm states
- 46:06on the Pat McAfee Show, Tyrese Halberton opened up about his
- 46:10Achilles injury, his first public statement since his
- 46:13injury. He said that the injury felt
- 46:15like he got kicked by a ball in the back of his leg and and he
- 46:20knew it was a torn the moment he fell down.
- 46:23He added that he tried to replicate Kobe Bryant's
- 46:28unbelievable game where he got free throws after tearing his
- 46:32Achilles but knew that he couldn't.
- 46:34He added that the injury didn't come as a result of the
- 46:39workload. Just saying it was a bad lucky
- 46:43break. He also doesn't blame the fact
- 46:47that the season was too long or players are playing too many
- 46:51minutes per game. Hal Burton visited Kevin Durant
- 46:55after his Achilles surgery and KD jokingly said he was sick of
- 47:01being known as the Achilles Achilles guy after both Jayson
- 47:06Tatum and Damian Lillard visited him to.
- 47:10The Pacers confirm that Halliburton has no chance of
- 47:14playing in 2025 NBA season. Even if they are, even if they
- 47:20go to the playoffs. You know, it's funny because we
- 47:24talk about these Achilles tears and we see it going on right now
- 47:28in the NFL. And I've asked many different X
- 47:31players or even coaches that have come on this show or even
- 47:36offset, I've spoken, you know, on social media and, and got
- 47:39into a conversation. Or what do you think is the
- 47:41reason why these Achilles injuries are happening?
- 47:44And in football, a lot of people are saying it's the turf.
- 47:47It, it's the, the cleats that they're using, being that
- 47:50they're much deeper cleats. And depending on the position I
- 47:54and that weight and the athletic ability some of these guys have,
- 47:57it's been more often than then that there's been Achilles after
- 48:03Achilles after Achilles injury in the NFL.
- 48:07When you talk about the NBA, there were a few ones over the
- 48:12years that really came to me. And I'll, I'll give you the ones
- 48:15that really stuck out to me. First it was Kobe Bryant.
- 48:18Kobe Bryant, when he tore his Achilles and he was in his mid
- 48:2230s. This guy was at the tail end of
- 48:25his career when he tore his Achilles.
- 48:26He was never the same player. He never was.
- 48:29And if you watch the Kobe Bryant documentary that's been on
- 48:33Showtime plenty of times before he passed away, it was a very
- 48:37interesting documentary because at the time that he tore his
- 48:40Achilles, he had the camera following him and he he, he
- 48:44couldn't believe how much work he had to put in to getting back
- 48:48on an NBA court. And he was never the same.
- 48:51The other one that really stuck out to me over the years was
- 48:54Klay Thompson. Klay.
- 48:56Thompson, remember, he tore his ACL, if I'm not mistaken first
- 49:01and then he tore his Achilles. And as soon as he when you get
- 49:07when you tear your ACL, you usually can come back at full
- 49:10strength. We've seen it, we've seen
- 49:12Peterson do it, we've seen NBA players do it.
- 49:15I've seen it plenty of times that people from a torn ACL has
- 49:19come back. When you tear your Achilles,
- 49:23your Achilles where you're jumping and doing all those
- 49:27things on a basketball court that not normal people could do,
- 49:31the chances you coming back and being the same player is slim to
- 49:35none. So we go and we we can argue
- 49:38these points about what Tyrese Halliburton saying he's trying
- 49:42to figure it out. The NBA is trying to figure out
- 49:44how they can clean it up. And Adam Silver and the LJA is
- 49:47sitting with their their captains.
- 49:49As we all know, LeBron James is the lead general.
- 49:52And then you have Carmelo Anthony.
- 49:54He's no part no more part of the the NBA, but he's there.
- 49:57Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, all those guys, they're they're
- 50:02sitting there talking to the LJA and making decisions for the
- 50:05NBA. As we all know, Dwyane Wade is a
- 50:07a co-owner or peace owner over there Utah, I think Chris Paul.
- 50:11'S now the leader of the NF NBA players, and now you have
- 50:13Carmelo. Anthony coming out and saying he
- 50:15wants to own a team in the future, too.
- 50:17What's next, ladies and gentlemen?
- 50:18You could buy the Knicks. From James Dolan.
- 50:20Enough said. The fact here is Tyrese
- 50:24Halliburton is one of the best young point guards in the NBA.
- 50:27Lengthy, talented, gifted athlete, tore his Achilles.
- 50:32He's in his like early 20s and you're tearing your Achilles
- 50:37early that so you question why is this happening to young guys?
- 50:42That's what. These guys haven't played as
- 50:44long as like Luca or in Lukas been in a league for five years,
- 50:49but not even him, Yokich or any or the Greek Freak at Yannis,
- 50:53Anyone of these guys that are in their 30s now.
- 50:57And you wonder, hey, who and what and how are we going to
- 51:00blame this story on something where the LJ can figure out how
- 51:05they can clean up this mess? There is no way to clean up this
- 51:09mess because I have the reason. I told Fish my opinion on why I
- 51:14think the NBA needs to look not at the league as it's 82 games
- 51:21or the coaches playing them too long of minutes as we know
- 51:25Thibodeau did for the New York Knicks, or any excuse to say
- 51:29that it it doesn't make sense. Here's the sense here.
- 51:33I own and hold on. I want to show you guys
- 51:35something. I'm a.
- 51:38Sneaker collector OK, this is a sneaker.
- 51:41You see it right over here. This is a This is an Air.
- 51:45This is an Air Max. Very known, Very nice, very nice
- 51:48color. I've got 300 sneakers.
- 51:51I threw it on the ground. I got 300 sneakers in my studio
- 51:54set up to show when people come to the studio.
- 51:58And I, I, I look at these sneakers because I'm a sneaker
- 52:01head. That's what they call us.
- 52:02They call us sneaker heads. These NBA players, they're
- 52:06sneaker heads too. These hip hop artists are
- 52:08sneaker heads too. When I look at a sneaker from
- 52:11the 90s and I, I should have brought one because I have it
- 52:15over there. I, I have the Charles Barkley's
- 52:18OK and Charles Barkley had a very common popular basketball
- 52:24Nike shoe in the 90s and he wore it and a lot of people went out
- 52:29there and bought I want, you know, they're crying with their
- 52:33mommy, give me Michael Gordon. I like my guy Dennis Rodman.
- 52:36I got him angry. But you know, all these idiots,
- 52:39they're out there screaming blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 52:41Christmas time, Thanksgiving or back to school.
- 52:43Daddy and mommy, I want my 2 Jordans for the year.
- 52:46We all know this. You look at the sneaker now, and
- 52:50you look at the sneaker then. The sneakers then were built to
- 52:55fit every foot. That's what they.
- 52:58Were I mean, they made these sneakers, they didn't mimic
- 53:01these guys feets. They they're not using
- 53:03scientific, scientific padding and and trying to calculate what
- 53:09weight fits better on this guy's foot than that guy's foot or
- 53:13that woman's foot. No, it's not like that.
- 53:16What they do now is they custom make the shoe.
- 53:19They make it even cheaper than they did in those days because
- 53:24they're really and women basketball shoes becoming low
- 53:26tops. I don't remember.
- 53:27I'm going to explain something to you.
- 53:28I'm going to give you I'm going to give you my theory here and
- 53:31I'm going to teach you a little bit about sneakers that some
- 53:33people, if you're not a sneaker head, you wouldn't even know
- 53:37when you buy sneakers. Now you're buying, you're buying
- 53:40a Yanis sneaker because you want to play basketball and you want
- 53:42to use the sneaker. Yanis wears it.
- 53:44I want to wear it right. You go out and buy a Yanis shoe
- 53:47right now, the the pressure that it has on your ankles, you can't
- 53:52wear it. It it, it puts too much
- 53:55pressure. And guess what?
- 53:56It's lighter. It's a lighter sneaker, so it's
- 53:59not heavy. So here's here, here's what
- 54:02happens when you have a lighter sneaker.
- 54:03You roll your ankles or you tear your Achilles because there's
- 54:08more pressure on the part of your ankle to the the top of
- 54:12your Achilles then the sneakers that were made in the 90s when
- 54:17it was more built for the, the flat part of your, your foot or
- 54:22they had weight and paired behind it.
- 54:24It was very well built on the, on the calf end of the shoe.
- 54:29OK, that and, and you could see it.
- 54:31I could show you right now the difference between if you had a
- 54:35if you went and bought an Anthony Hardaway sneaker.
- 54:39Penny was a very popular player for the Orlando Magic and he had
- 54:43those air. Remember a sneaker, the Air on
- 54:45the side of it. OK, like the Nike went like
- 54:48this, like that little Nike, it had air.
- 54:51Yep, it had all different. He had all different styles.
- 54:53OK, here's the thing. I have.
- 54:56His old sneaker and I have his new sneaker that they redid in
- 55:02the now in from from the 90s all the way to the 2000 twenties.
- 55:06That's that's like 30 something years.
- 55:08They're significantly different in many different ways.
- 55:12The weight, the padding on the inside, they're lighter, so it's
- 55:16more pressure on the calf end and the ankle end of the sneaker
- 55:22when you try to jump and you try to run with them.
- 55:24So what does this tell me? And I'm I'm going to give you
- 55:26guys my thought on why the Achilles are happening in the
- 55:29NBA. It's the sneaker, it's Nike,
- 55:32it's Reebok now with Shaquille O'Neal and Allen Iverson.
- 55:36It's Converse, it's Adidas. It's all these basketball
- 55:41sneakers that are coming out and they're they're buying these
- 55:44players in and ask him, hey, you know, we're going to pay you
- 55:46$170 million to wear our shoe and we're going to make a shoe
- 55:51just for you. These.
- 55:53Players are now going out there and wearing their own shoe.
- 55:57Yes, they're made for them. Yes, they're made for them to
- 56:00show off and and obviously bring to the forefront so they can
- 56:04sell a million of them. They're wearing a shoe that was
- 56:07defined to fit them and lighter because they were wearing those
- 56:11sneakers when they were younger. The sneakers were heavier built
- 56:15better look. Hey, I got one for for you guys
- 56:17to remember. Remember Williamson?
- 56:20Oh yeah. Remember that.
- 56:21Remember him when he played do Scandal?
- 56:23Yeah, like he tried to stop and his whole soul fell.
- 56:25Whole soul fell off. Why do you think the soul fell
- 56:28off, guys? Because when?
- 56:30Because he's not a normal sized human being.
- 56:32The sneakers. The sneakers.
- 56:34No, no, no, that's not Yeah, the sneakers were.
- 56:38The sneakers are lighter now and now these guys are much bigger,
- 56:42much faster, much more athletic. So when they're like stopping on
- 56:46a dime, you're stopping on a dime.
- 56:48You're, you have like a A270260 pound man, athletically gifted
- 56:54stopping. What do you think is going to
- 56:55happen to a light shoe that doesn't have the right seam or
- 56:59it's not as tight as of a seam as they've made in the 90s and
- 57:03very well built. The sneakers in the 90s and the
- 57:0580s are so much better than the sneaker now, much better.
- 57:09You could see the difference. It's because of the sneakers.
- 57:13I believe the NBA has a problem. The NBA needs to look into how
- 57:18Nike. Is building.
- 57:20These sneakers, they're using these science, this science
- 57:23stuff that they're calculating with and they have these
- 57:28computers and the computers are telling.
- 57:29Computers can't tell you everything.
- 57:31You got to go out there and you got to wear the sneaker and you
- 57:34got to practice and, and, and use it numerous amount of times.
- 57:37How many players wear the same sneaker the next game?
- 57:41Honestly, not many. They give away half the time.
- 57:44Kobe Bryant actually, and this is the truth.
- 57:47Kobe Bryant came out and said that every single game, actually
- 57:51every single, every first and fourth quarter.
- 57:55He changed his sneakers in every single game of his career.
- 57:59Think about that. Think about how many sneakers
- 58:02Kobe Bryant went through in his how many years of playing NBA
- 58:07basketball? Almost 2020 years.
- 58:09I bet he didn't do that his whole career.
- 58:10I bet he figured it out after he's no.
- 58:13Popular enough where he could have done that, he said.
- 58:15That he wore a different sneaker in the 1st and 4th I've seen
- 58:19I've seen an interview that he had and the guy asked him he
- 58:22said how many sneakers do you go by and go through every single
- 58:25year in an NBA season? He says, I don't know, I, I use
- 58:28two different sneakers and every single game.
- 58:30And he says in the first and fourth quarter, and he explained
- 58:33why there was a story on why Kobe Bryant, I don't know if it
- 58:37was high school or middle school when he was playing basketball,
- 58:40but he wears different sneakers in the first in, in, in every
- 58:45single game. So my point here is there is, I
- 58:50think there's an interesting argument and and really an
- 58:54interesting debate where the NBA has got to stop making excuses
- 58:58because of the minutes and all that other stuff.
- 58:59It's just like baseball with the UCL.
- 59:01Well, all these different scouts and all these different
- 59:05executives are trying to figure out why the UCL is tearing as
- 59:09much as it has over the years when you're not going to get a
- 59:11definite answer. Because guys like Max Scherzer
- 59:15came out and explained the scientific understanding on what
- 59:18you shouldn't be doing as a youth, as a pitcher.
- 59:22I'm just speaking the truth here.
- 59:23There's a reason there's a mathematical equation here.
- 59:27And the math here only spells one thing to me.
- 59:31It's the sneaker. It is the sneaker on the reason
- 59:35why. Let's go look at the the
- 59:36Achilles tears. What?
- 59:38What does Durant wear? What kind of sneakers does
- 59:40Durant? I thought he was a Nike.
- 59:41Guy OK. All right, Klay Thompson, what
- 59:44sneaker does he wear? I'm pretty sure it's a Nike.
- 59:47I I'm just, I'm pretty sure. Just don't quote me on this, but
- 59:50I'm pretty sure Hal Burton, what kind of sneaker does he wear?
- 59:54He was a Nike. He's a Nike.
- 59:55OK, here comes the math here. If you look at the the
- 1:00:01calculations now, Kobe Bryant was not Nike.
- 1:00:05Adidas. To.
- 1:00:05Star he was. Adidas and then he moved to Nike
- 1:00:08and where did where did when he tore his Achilles?
- 1:00:11What was he wearing? A Nike sneaker?
- 1:00:15So think about this now, I'm not blaming Nike.
- 1:00:17Nike, don't kill me on this. I'm not trying to get sued here.
- 1:00:22I think that the NBA needs to start to investigate what and
- 1:00:28how they're building these sneakers for these players.
- 1:00:30If they expect these players to not miss as much time as they're
- 1:00:34going to and maybe not even be the same player.
- 1:00:36You're talking about two of the biggest stars, 3 of the biggest
- 1:00:39stars in the NBA. Damian Lillard, who's been a
- 1:00:41big, huge superstar player for forever.
- 1:00:45Jason Tatum is one of the best power forwards in the NBA.
- 1:00:49He was wearing. Jordans, I just look up the
- 1:00:50image, OK? He went down and then who's the
- 1:00:54other one that that went down? Tyrese Halpern.
- 1:00:56You can argue he's the most athletically gifted point guard
- 1:01:00in the NBA. So think about that.
- 1:01:03And they're all with her Nike sneakers practically.
- 1:01:06That's scary. And now again, I'm not saying
- 1:01:09this is just Nike and I'm fans. I'm not blaming Nike and
- 1:01:13throwing Nike under the bus. I'm not doing that.
- 1:01:15I just think that it's the sneaker.
- 1:01:19It's not the court. The courts the same.
- 1:01:21It always is. What, are they putting new wax
- 1:01:23on it? Are you kidding me?
- 1:01:25It's not the court. It's not the practices.
- 1:01:29They're actually, to me, they're babied more than they ever have
- 1:01:32been. So don't blame the practices.
- 1:01:34Michael Jordan used to practice all day long and they're playing
- 1:01:36an NBA game and he played a practice like an NBA game,
- 1:01:41Magic, dealing with somebody like that, ruthless and crazy
- 1:01:44like Michael Jordan. I'm just.
- 1:01:46Speaking the truth here, he'd also go play 36 holes and then
- 1:01:50drop 50 on you. Well, that's true too.
- 1:01:53That's true too. And also how about this doing an
- 1:01:55all nighter and going gambling and winning a couple of hands
- 1:01:58and then and going and playing in a playoff NBA game and
- 1:02:01scoring 50. So I I've heard stories like
- 1:02:04that with M55 and telling everyone he had the flu yes,
- 1:02:08that's another one. Gambling in Atlantic City till
- 1:02:093:00 in the morning. That was another one.
- 1:02:11I've heard that story too. So my, my facts.
- 1:02:14Damian Lillard was wearing Adidas, Yes, Yeah.
- 1:02:16But I'm just saying, if you look at the numbers, the numbers we
- 1:02:20tell you over the years, they have been Nike shoes more than
- 1:02:24any other shoe. Now, again, Nike's the most
- 1:02:26popular brand. I know everybody's going to say,
- 1:02:27well, Nike's a popular brand. So the fact here is I, I'm just
- 1:02:33speaking the truth here. How many, how many college
- 1:02:37players have torn their Achilles in the NCAA?
- 1:02:40It's not really a young guy injuries.
- 1:02:43Exactly. You just gave the answer to my
- 1:02:46equation here. It's not.
- 1:02:48But also young college. Now they're making it for your
- 1:02:51foot, Yes, but you know, I mentioned that to you.
- 1:02:54It's like insoles, but not not the shoe per SE.
- 1:02:56I guess you know. What what the thing that I was
- 1:02:59saying is like in for like football and at least Division
- 1:03:01One football, all the offensive lineman have those double leg
- 1:03:04braces on to prevent some kind of knee injury because they get
- 1:03:08rolled up on all the time. Why NBA players or college
- 1:03:12players even don't have custom orthotics in every single
- 1:03:17sneaker that they wear when they're going on to a court is
- 1:03:20beyond me. Why the team or maybe the league
- 1:03:23is or however they should do it. I don't know why you wouldn't do
- 1:03:26that to protect your investment. It makes no sense to me.
- 1:03:28That's why that's why I think the LJA should be looking and
- 1:03:32investigating in these sneaker situations.
- 1:03:34I, I'm not saying that these sneakers are made to hurt these
- 1:03:37guys. I don't think they're purposely
- 1:03:39doing it, but the way they're designing these sneakers because
- 1:03:42they wanted to sell in stores and how and remember, they're
- 1:03:46not going to make, they want to make it as cheap as possible and
- 1:03:48sell it for most so they can make the most profits.
- 1:03:51It wasn't like that in the 90s. If you look at the Air Ones and
- 1:03:55you look at the Air Ones that they remade in different colors,
- 1:03:58they're completely different sneakers.
- 1:04:00That's why the first Air Ones, if you have a good pair of them,
- 1:04:03they're worth like 15 grand. If they're in good shape, if
- 1:04:07you're born an Air One, right now, they're not even worth 100.
- 1:04:10OK. And I probably would.
- 1:04:11Imagine there like at least like five times the amount of players
- 1:04:14that have their own sneakers now compared to the back then and
- 1:04:16everybody. Says, well it's because of the
- 1:04:18age. This is not wine, ladies and
- 1:04:19gentlemen, OK, it's not about fine wine.
- 1:04:22I'm telling you guys factual information for a guy that's a
- 1:04:26sneaker head and no sneakers. I know sneakers I know sneakers
- 1:04:30better than anybody. Definitely in this in the studio
- 1:04:33with Speedy and everybody on here.
- 1:04:34I I know Jabba probably has a lot of sneakers and probably.
- 1:04:36More than all our guys, I've been a.
- 1:04:38Sneaker collector since I was 14, 15 years old.
- 1:04:41I I know Jabba's a hat collector.
- 1:04:43I know he's collecting hats forever.
- 1:04:45I remember, you see, Jabba, I listen.
- 1:04:47You think I don't listen to you? I remember what you said about
- 1:04:49your hat collection. And I'm a hat collector.
- 1:04:51I don't think I have one pair of Nikes, though.
- 1:04:53OK, I can. I'm an Adidas.
- 1:04:57Maybe maybe that's why you didn't tear your Achilles.
- 1:05:00I do have a different theory on what what could be the Achilles
- 1:05:04issue, And I talked to you about it earlier.
- 1:05:05Also, Errol, that one of the biggest moves that's come into
- 1:05:08the game in the past decade. Really kind of starting with
- 1:05:11James Harden is the step back, right?
- 1:05:13And when you do the step back, you're end up putting your bot,
- 1:05:16your one of your legs out of the frame of your body.
- 1:05:19Now, when I coach football, if a lineman does that, I tell him
- 1:05:22he's false stepping and he's stepping backwards to go
- 1:05:25forward. So you push off by really just
- 1:05:28extending your your calf at maximum effort.
- 1:05:31And that's how you go forward. So when you step back to do
- 1:05:35that, you're doing that in reverse action in basketball.
- 1:05:37Every single one of these Achilles injuries that you see,
- 1:05:41it's from that foot being outside of the frame of the
- 1:05:43body. Whether we're talking about
- 1:05:45Jason Tatum diving for that ball and pushing off the ground or
- 1:05:48we're talking about Halliburton trying to do kind of like, you
- 1:05:51know, stepping around, doing a fancy move with the ball, kind
- 1:05:55of doing a step back or at least part of a step back in that
- 1:05:58process. I even talk about Dre Greenlaw
- 1:06:01hopping up and doing that exact same motion trying to run onto
- 1:06:04the field in the second-half. Extending the calf away from
- 1:06:07that has something to do with turf.
- 1:06:08I, I do believe it's not the turf.
- 1:06:10It's just like the way the body mechanics.
- 1:06:12They, they said the Raiders, that the turf over there is one
- 1:06:15of the worst when it comes to new stadiums in all of the NFL.
- 1:06:19Yeah. And I, I listen, I, I know
- 1:06:22everybody's going to go and they're going to say, what do
- 1:06:23you know about this? You don't know anything.
- 1:06:25You're talking. You shouldn't be on radio and
- 1:06:28kiss my ass. Ladies and gentlemen, I'll give
- 1:06:30you what I have to say. And you can eat it, suck it and
- 1:06:33dish it out. The speedies dog Jack, right?
- 1:06:36Is his name Jack Jake? Jake.
- 1:06:37There it is. I'm trying to help here, but
- 1:06:40here's the facts. You have to look at the
- 1:06:42situation for what it is Now, NBA players aren't wearing
- 1:06:45cleats, are they? But guess what?
- 1:06:47There are Nike cleats out there, are they not?
- 1:06:50They're making cleats. They're and again, a lot of
- 1:06:53these players like Patrick Mahomes.
- 1:06:54Patrick Mahomes has his own custom made cleat.
- 1:06:57By who? Nike.
- 1:06:59So what I'm trying to say here is it's not Nike's fault.
- 1:07:04I'm not blaming Nike. I'm not.
- 1:07:06I'm not going to get myself into trouble.
- 1:07:07I think Nike is the best when it comes to sneakers and all of
- 1:07:12sneaker collections. I'm going to tell you this right
- 1:07:14now. They're my favorite.
- 1:07:15From top to bottom, Nike's my favorite.
- 1:07:18The fact is because Nike is a multibillion dollar, trillion
- 1:07:23dollar organization, I do believe that they're just trying
- 1:07:27to scout up and and grab all the top players in professional
- 1:07:31sports, including basketball and give them what they want, their
- 1:07:35own designer shoe, their own colors that they want so they
- 1:07:38can sell as many as they possibly can and not care about
- 1:07:41the making of the shoe and the player that's playing in them.
- 1:07:45I have I've said this and it's a big problem and and the LJA as
- 1:07:49an organization needs to get LeBron James in on it.
- 1:07:53He needs to use his security and everything that he does with
- 1:07:57Rich Paul to to sneak away and figure out what Nike, Adidas,
- 1:08:02Converse and all these companies are doing when they're making
- 1:08:05these sneakers. That's all I'm saying.
- 1:08:07Yeah, it's interesting because I think for the sake of Achilles
- 1:08:09injuries in general, like there's not really other factors
- 1:08:12you can blame the same way like you can with football with the
- 1:08:15turf, Like, what is it? I mean, seriously, if it's
- 1:08:17different, if it's not the sneakers, what is it?
- 1:08:20Yeah, because there's nothing. On the court, that's distinctly
- 1:08:21different in any way. It's not like even a baseball
- 1:08:23tour. You have different ballparks,
- 1:08:25different hybrid turf surfaces as well, and different types of
- 1:08:28dirt as well. And I think football, college
- 1:08:31football too, is the same problem when they're switching
- 1:08:33to playing in NFL stadiums a lot of the time.
- 1:08:35But basketball, you not like the painter.
- 1:08:37The world is any different. That's what you're saying.
- 1:08:40You know. You know what the common refrain
- 1:08:43is? Of course.
- 1:08:44It's too many games I don't play, too many games, playing
- 1:08:47too close. Yeah, the Celtics.
- 1:08:48This do very good at low managing their stars and it's
- 1:08:51helped them in years past stay healthy.
- 1:08:53So you can't really blame that one thing for Tatum's injury.
- 1:08:56The same way you would say if one of the Knicks players had it
- 1:08:59with what bad injury like that because Tom Thibodeau wore out
- 1:09:01the players or one of those types of teams like the Celtics
- 1:09:04actually did a really good job at for the last few years load
- 1:09:07managing. That's why, besides I think one
- 1:09:09year, the regular season like it went total wasn't like insane
- 1:09:13because Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum were low managing and I
- 1:09:16don't think the Pacers really worth doing that kind of thing
- 1:09:18with Halliburton either where he was trying to work him too much.
- 1:09:21It was just more of like, all right, it took a while for the
- 1:09:24season to get going. The Pacers are the seven C at
- 1:09:26the All Star break type thing. Well.
- 1:09:28It's the calf injury, right? Like we should talk about that
- 1:09:30before we finish. This is these calf injuries.
- 1:09:33They're not minor. Even if you feel good enough to
- 1:09:36play on, if they shoot you up with enough that you feel fine,
- 1:09:39Let's face it, Halliburton was playing great after until he had
- 1:09:44that injury in that game, he probably felt like 1,000,000
- 1:09:47bucks. He said he felt like 1,000,000
- 1:09:48bucks and then it was gone. If you remember the game before,
- 1:09:51he wasn't a primary ball handler in that game.
- 1:09:54He facilitated in Game 6 after he tweaked it the first time,
- 1:09:57right? So they really should have
- 1:10:00played him the exact same way in Game 7.
- 1:10:03But really he was doing all these fancy footwork things.
- 1:10:06And if you do too much on that calf, if you make the calf the
- 1:10:09primary muscle you're pushing off of, I mean, Jabba, you know,
- 1:10:12this is a picture. You've got to engage your
- 1:10:14glutes. You got to engage all four
- 1:10:15muscles of your quad. The calf shouldn't be the
- 1:10:18primary muscle you're pushing off on.
- 1:10:20You're going to hurt yourself if you're doing that right.
- 1:10:22It's we like all the way we. Yeah, if we do it in a weird way
- 1:10:27that that usually not as our main one.
- 1:10:29Yeah. That's that's kind of when you
- 1:10:30get hurt. And it's always like when you
- 1:10:32and it's kind of cliche, but. As.
- 1:10:35As athletes and as coaches, it's like, yeah, you're trying to
- 1:10:38push you something, but something has to give because
- 1:10:41you're compensating because you already know it sucks.
- 1:10:44So you're. Trying to like not make it hurt
- 1:10:47and then you end up hurting something else that's not even
- 1:10:50hurt because you're compensating and doing things the way your
- 1:10:53body's not normally used to doing it.
- 1:10:56I also don't think it's the step back thing theory that you have.
- 1:11:00I'm not saying I'm not to attacking what you believe and
- 1:11:02maybe you have some kind of argument to it.
- 1:11:06Again, Michael Jordan was the king of doing that.
- 1:11:08Keema Lajawan was the king of doing that.
- 1:11:11Did they ever tear their Achilles?
- 1:11:12No, Well, I mean, Jordan was doing a fade away.
- 1:11:15It's a little different than this.
- 1:11:16I mean, I'm thinking about the James Carl Malone back, you
- 1:11:19know, calm alone, calm alone. I mean, he did a lot of step
- 1:11:21back jump shots. They're they're look, Larry Bird
- 1:11:24did did it the most. I would say before this common
- 1:11:27error. Larry Bird constantly would just
- 1:11:29do a jab at a guy, step back and just talk shit and drain it in
- 1:11:33the guy's face. But none of that looked as
- 1:11:36dynamic as some of what these Dirk Nowinski doing right now.
- 1:11:40Who did that? You know, what's that?
- 1:11:41I'm sorry. Dirk Nowinski was another one
- 1:11:43that did that step back, jump, jump.
- 1:11:45Dirk did did a like a version of it where he was just so tall and
- 1:11:48he kind of like used his other leg to shield his body.
- 1:11:51Never tore his Achilles. He never did.
- 1:11:54And it's really interest, like the young guys tearing it, they
- 1:11:57got to do something. I think there's a combination of
- 1:12:00factors. I don't know if it's the games.
- 1:12:02I would be willing to bet what you're saying with the sneakers
- 1:12:04has a ton of validity because you know that companies are
- 1:12:07selling sneakers to make money, not for safety reasons.
- 1:12:10And remember how long? Remember how long it took them
- 1:12:13to make a prototype in those days?
- 1:12:16I'm not talking about the Jordan ones, which they made a
- 1:12:19prototype right away because they knew they had to draw
- 1:12:21Michael Jordan to come in And he didn't want to play.
- 1:12:23He didn't want anything to do with Nike.
- 1:12:26He wanted to go to Converse or Adidas.
- 1:12:29That's where. But if you know, you watch that
- 1:12:31movie, the Matt Damon, Ben Affleck movie, fantastic movie.
- 1:12:33And a lot of the story isn't true, by the way, but some of it
- 1:12:37is. And it's a great story because
- 1:12:38the guy that really discovered Michael Jordan is the same guy
- 1:12:41that argued he was the front runner for the NIL deals,
- 1:12:44believe it or not, if you guys don't know that.
- 1:12:46So I'm just saying when I'm looking at sneakers and I look
- 1:12:51at the defining, building a block that they're trying to
- 1:12:55sell out there to the fan, they're only selling the look.
- 1:12:59They're not selling the comfortability.
- 1:13:01They're not selling. That's why, if you notice, why
- 1:13:04did Yeezys, the Yeezys when they came out, remember the Kanye
- 1:13:08West, they were selling for like 5-6, seven, $100.
- 1:13:11People were spending that kind of money for Yeezys and now
- 1:13:15you're obviously his problem with over the years with Adidas,
- 1:13:18he's there's no more Yeezys or you can you can only get fake
- 1:13:21ones, replicated ones. But what I'm trying to say is
- 1:13:24they were made very, very well. If you put a Yeezy on and you
- 1:13:27put a regular sneak on, you could see the difference on the
- 1:13:30the protection of your feet and the pad and and the way you know
- 1:13:34how they define the product. So people would want to buy
- 1:13:37them. When you look at this, they were
- 1:13:39they. Were comfortable.
- 1:13:40Yes. They're looking at these
- 1:13:41sneakers, the Nike sneakers they're they're sensational to
- 1:13:45look at, not very comfortable to wear when you're walking Michael
- 1:13:48Jordan's. They're not comfortable until
- 1:13:50you build them in and it takes a while to build in.
- 1:13:53They hurt the hell out of your feet and you always got to get
- 1:13:56it one bigger size. And this is a tip for all you
- 1:13:59fans out there. If you like Jordan ones and
- 1:14:01they're the, to me, the most popular and the ones that I
- 1:14:03would tell you to get, if you're going to get Jordan's with the
- 1:14:06colors, you have to get a size or half a size bigger depending
- 1:14:10on the sneaker. If they're obviously the Jordan,
- 1:14:14you know, high tops, I would get a size bigger.
- 1:14:17If they're low tops, I would get a half a size bigger.
- 1:14:20I'm telling you guys, I've been wearing sneakers my whole life.
- 1:14:23I'm like the king of understanding what hurts and
- 1:14:26what doesn't. I'm just telling you, I believe
- 1:14:29the factual thought of what the NBA needs to look into is the
- 1:14:33sneaker and the way it is, is built and as fast as it it's
- 1:14:38built by just looking at science and trying to define on how and
- 1:14:43why it would be a good product to sell.
- 1:14:46When it comes to the player, I I don't like it and I I think the
- 1:14:50NBA just needs to figure that out.
- 1:14:52That's just my opinion. That's it.
- 1:14:54I I, it's sad. I want to mention.
- 1:14:56The difference as well, we've seen a lot of like you saying
- 1:14:58exposed and I say I'm. Sorry to cut you off.
- 1:15:00It's I say it's sad because everybody's going to say, what
- 1:15:02the hell are you talking about? You don't know what you're
- 1:15:04talking about. It's sad because that is the
- 1:15:07only reason why the I believe that these Achilles problems are
- 1:15:12still more defined or still trying.
- 1:15:14We're trying to find answers behind it.
- 1:15:16That's all I'm saying. That's why I said, but guys,
- 1:15:17yeah, I was going to say there's.
- 1:15:18Not really also a positional split in terms of what we've
- 1:15:21seen because a lot of the big men, a lot of the big men we've
- 1:15:23seen in recent years have had Achilles injuries to DeMarcus
- 1:15:26Cousin was a big one. I think Andre Drummond as well,
- 1:15:28another big one that had that. Now you're seeing it recently,
- 1:15:30like both of them. Wearing Nike, yeah, and now
- 1:15:33you're. Seeing it with these with these
- 1:15:34guards to Tatum's a bigger wing that's dribbled the ball all up
- 1:15:37a lot now too. So again, there's no distinct
- 1:15:39theory on if it's ball handling, it's even intensity like fish.
- 1:15:42You were saying like Halliburton made a move, try to try to
- 1:15:45stretch it on a dribble too. Like again, we've also seen
- 1:15:48these power players tear their Achilles the same way too.
- 1:15:50And maybe the big man is probably what you were saying is
- 1:15:53the analogy with the offensive line of football.
- 1:15:55And maybe it's the same kind of motion and and.
- 1:15:57And I attacked Nike again on this segment, not for them to
- 1:16:01hate me because my favorite sneaker is Nike and I would not
- 1:16:04pick any sneaker over Nike out of all the sneakers that I buy.
- 1:16:08I've I have Yeezys, I have every single sneaker you can name
- 1:16:11Adidas Converse. I wouldn't buy any sneaker over
- 1:16:16Nike, but there's just something behind this that maybe the LJA
- 1:16:21needs to investigate. Hey, why don't they send Carmelo
- 1:16:24Anthony and Chris Paul? I think they'd be good
- 1:16:26investigators. Could you imagine those two guys
- 1:16:28as a comedy? That would be a comedy watching.
- 1:16:31Carmelo Anthony is 6 foot 8 and Chris Paul, who's like 6 to come
- 1:16:35into your building and say I'd like to see all the paperwork on
- 1:16:38that sneaker. Carmelo Anthony.
- 1:16:40Shoe detective, is that what you're getting out?
- 1:16:41Let me. Try We're going to just walk.
- 1:16:43Around with like glasses of wine the whole time and I'm just like
- 1:16:47sipping on it smoking cigars. Melo was a Jordan guy.
- 1:16:51What was CP3? He wasn't a Jordan guy he hold
- 1:16:55on hold on I think he got he just signed for his 21st year
- 1:16:58Chris Paul. I think he's was he Nike?
- 1:17:00I think Chris Paul was Nike too. I I thought he had his own shoe.
- 1:17:04He's Jordan. He's.
- 1:17:05Jordan, he's, he has Nike. Too.
- 1:17:06He's Jordan, too. Yeah.
- 1:17:08Dwyane Wade, I think was Jordan, too, if I'm not mistaken.
- 1:17:11No, Dwyane Wade, was he? Actually, I, I mentioned this in
- 1:17:14the chat. Carter, his senior year, he
- 1:17:17started making his own shoe Way of wades out of China.
- 1:17:19Oh, OK. Wow.
- 1:17:20OK. How'd that go?
- 1:17:21Oh, and that was something else I wanted to say before we get
- 1:17:23on, too, because we're still waiting for our guest.
- 1:17:26I I wanted to say one more thing.
- 1:17:27Star berries. Remember when those things came
- 1:17:29out? The dollar sneakers.
- 1:17:31Like, he's a legend over there, man.
- 1:17:33This and to this and I told this to fish too for all you guys to
- 1:17:37understand why everybody made fun of strawberries.
- 1:17:40Ah, that was like crappy sneakers.
- 1:17:41They were so very well built that I bought a ton of if I was
- 1:17:46a basketball player when I played basketball when I was a
- 1:17:48kid, I would go out and buy a bunch of pairs of strawberries
- 1:17:52because one, they're made for basketball, they're good on your
- 1:17:55ankles, lot of padding and I played very well with them Yes,
- 1:17:59they broke. Yes, they ripped.
- 1:18:00Yes, they tear very fast. There were a buck I would rather
- 1:18:04spend a buck on a good pair and not an ugly pair of sneakers
- 1:18:08that I could play some ball with then going out and spending $200
- 1:18:12on a sneaker that honestly is hurting my foot even though it
- 1:18:16looks good and bothering certain, you know, aspects of my
- 1:18:21future when it comes to walking, working, or even getting a
- 1:18:25chance to run with my kid in the future.
- 1:18:27I, I Nikes, Nikes have been a big problem and, and, and
- 1:18:31beating a man or wearing a man is so very hard to, to do
- 1:18:34because you have to wear them consistently and it hurts your
- 1:18:36feet. So did you say is, is those and
- 1:18:39one joints in your collection? Yes, I have, I have a pair of N
- 1:18:41ones. Yes, first pair, first pair.
- 1:18:44I don't, I don't collect any of it.
- 1:18:45Now they're selling Walmarts and I'll tell you this, women can
- 1:18:50find some nice stuff in Walmart. Guys, if you shop at Walmart,
- 1:18:54shame on you. Shame on you.
- 1:18:57They've got some good. Themed shirts, like someones you
- 1:19:00can just wear once for like an outing.
- 1:19:02Yeah, because if you try to wash.
- 1:19:03Oh yeah, they become like a crop top.
- 1:19:05Yeah, they have like N1 had the best shorts back in the day.
- 1:19:09They don't make them anymore the way they used to.
- 1:19:11They were like the first ones with pockets.
- 1:19:13They had pockets. They were the they were
- 1:19:15absolutely the best basketball shirts.
- 1:19:16I don't know why they changed up their the way they make them,
- 1:19:18but it's a lot cheaper and kind of ratty now.
- 1:19:21I don't think N1's the same quality they used to be, if
- 1:19:23they're even still owned by the same people.
- 1:19:25It's pretty cool when you're trying to figure out or argue a
- 1:19:30point that everybody's going to have their own opinion by and
- 1:19:33probably nobody's ever used that opinion like I, I've, and that's
- 1:19:38what makes it unique. And Fish came to me and he asked
- 1:19:41me, well, how would you attack this?
- 1:19:42I think it's a sneaker and he says why?
- 1:19:45And then I I gave him my take to it and he says that I've never
- 1:19:49heard anything like that before. This would be a great topic to
- 1:19:52argue and I just I feel like. The N.
- 1:19:56BALJ, whatever you want to call it, they they're not.
- 1:20:00They're, they're looking at the, the big picture.
- 1:20:02Yes, it's bringing in money. It's in.
- 1:20:04They're endorsing so many great players.
- 1:20:06And future Hall of Farmers, what they're not doing is protecting
- 1:20:10those assets as they move forward in their careers.
- 1:20:14And you expect them to be the face of your product?
- 1:20:17Because think about it, how many guys could you tell me right now
- 1:20:21in the NBA in five years is going to be better than Tyrese
- 1:20:24Hall? Burton, how many?
- 1:20:27This guy's 2223 years old. He's not.
- 1:20:30He's 25, still young. He's not even in prime 25.
- 1:20:34You said the face the face of basketball.
- 1:20:37No, I didn't. Halbert Cooper Flag.
- 1:20:39Yeah, Cooper Flag is going to be the face of the NBA in USA
- 1:20:43Basketball. I do.
- 1:20:44We think he's going to be one of them.
- 1:20:45I think Calbert, and he's such a young guy right now and he
- 1:20:48hasn't even fully developed. Just think about it.
- 1:20:51There's not many guys in the NBA like him, a stretch, 6 foot 6
- 1:20:57point guard. They can take the ball up, shoot
- 1:20:59the ball and do so many things, rebound, pass.
- 1:21:03I mean, this guy, he's just a a way better version.
- 1:21:07And I know people might think of crazy of Russell Westbrook.
- 1:21:11That's what he is. He's a he's a better version of
- 1:21:14Russell Westbrook. Why?
- 1:21:15Because he plays defense. Russell Westbrook don't.
- 1:21:18That's the difference. But I, I think that this kid has
- 1:21:21the ability, the athletic ability to go up and down the
- 1:21:23court. He's so very good his and by the
- 1:21:26way, Russell Westbrook couldn't shoot like this guy.
- 1:21:28He didn't hit big shots like this guy.
- 1:21:30This guy last year's playoffs in every single series daggered
- 1:21:35every one of those teams that he beat.
- 1:21:37Just think about it. He daggered every one of those
- 1:21:41teams in Indiana. They had the hardest path to the
- 1:21:46NBA Finals. If you think about it too.
- 1:21:48Just think about it. So I, I just think when you're
- 1:21:52hearing it from Halpern, Alperton's not going to throw
- 1:21:54the NBA or sneaker contract under the bus.
- 1:21:57Why would he ever do that when he's making millions and
- 1:21:59millions of dollars and he he could get sued or he could get
- 1:22:02dropped by that organization? No, he's going to sit there and
- 1:22:06he's not going to give you an answer when everybody, if you're
- 1:22:09sitting here listening to us right now, any kind of answer to
- 1:22:13this, you would understand that the only way this could be
- 1:22:17happening is because of the sneaker.
- 1:22:19That's the. Only reason the way you land.
- 1:22:23How many times have you heard, Jabba, when somebody says they
- 1:22:26they tear their Achilles, they can't put their they can't put
- 1:22:29their heel on the ground. Every time they try to put the
- 1:22:32hair on the ground, they have shooting pains up their leg.
- 1:22:35How many times have you heard when you try to grab your What
- 1:22:39do they call this over here? Speedy?
- 1:22:40What do they call this? I don't even know I'm not the.
- 1:22:43Back of the the back of the the ankle right over there where you
- 1:22:47know the bone sticking out. Why do they say that when
- 1:22:50doctors grab that they can tell you automatically if you tore
- 1:22:54your Achilles because they noticed that the muscle just
- 1:22:57tear right off of that. So because that's where it's
- 1:22:59connected to, it's just to me, I, I just think that the NBA
- 1:23:04just for the, for the amount of money that they're making and
- 1:23:07they're bringing in, they should absolutely take care of the
- 1:23:09players that are bringing in that kind of money and making it
- 1:23:13an asset of a sport as we all know internationally.
- 1:23:16Just my thought. And now, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:23:18our deuce of the day. The deuce.
- 1:23:20Of the day you log, not a log. I don't have a log but.
- 1:23:32All right, ladies and gentlemen, my deuce of the day has to go to
- 1:23:35the Pittsburgh Steelers, an organization that are absolutely
- 1:23:39out there when it comes to deciding who they're going to
- 1:23:43pay or who they're trading for. An organization that never went
- 1:23:47out there and bought a wide receiver.
- 1:23:50Or did they recently as they traded for one in DK Metcalf.
- 1:23:54An organization that has said many times over the years that
- 1:23:59their coaches are players coaches but one of them can't
- 1:24:03get out of the first round and players coaches don't really win
- 1:24:06games. Or the same organization that
- 1:24:10had the best player in the league besides a quarterback and
- 1:24:14waited till really camps open up to pay him.
- 1:24:19What does that smell? Well, it smells.
- 1:24:22It smells a lot like garbage dump or whatever you want to say
- 1:24:26and you're mixed up in one. The fact is DJ Watt has been the
- 1:24:31best player in the league, not a quarterback in the last three
- 1:24:35seasons has been untouchable. When people were comparing
- 1:24:39obviously Michael Parsons to him and Miles Garrett to him and all
- 1:24:43these pass rushes, none of them touched the numbers of this man.
- 1:24:48When you look at the beginning of the offseason, who got the
- 1:24:51money first? Myles Garrett has Myles Garrett
- 1:24:55as good as Myles Garrett is. And by the way, was the number
- 1:24:59one pick in the first round what, 5-6 seven years ago, the
- 1:25:03same draft as? TJ Watt, OK.
- 1:25:05TJ Watt, who was drafted 30. Is.
- 1:25:08Considered a better all around player PPR, PPF, whatever you
- 1:25:13want to do it al your algorithms on YouTube and all that other
- 1:25:17garbage. The fact that Pittsburgh waited
- 1:25:21this long to pay this man a three-year, 42 and a half,
- 1:25:25$1,000,000 contract tells me they're in a dumb organization
- 1:25:29and almost lost the best player they've had really since I I
- 1:25:34would say Ben Roethlisberger if you really ask me.
- 1:25:37So I it just tells me Han gets an extended contract.
- 1:25:41You're going to pay this guy and give him an extended contract
- 1:25:45for all the garbage he has put together over the last couple
- 1:25:47years, They haven't won anything.
- 1:25:49They haven't even been into an AFC title game.
- 1:25:51And how long this has been a joke an organization, it going
- 1:25:54to keep that idiot in office. To me, it only smells like crap
- 1:26:00and that's why I'm going to give him the deuce of the day.
- 1:26:02It there's no way you could sit here and tell me that this
- 1:26:06organization knows what they're doing and Mike Tomlin could be
- 1:26:09on his way out at the end of the season if he doesn't know how to
- 1:26:13control this worthless, no good quarterback who has come out
- 1:26:18numerous amount of time saying that he could still be an elite
- 1:26:21quarterback in the league. So that's my deuce of the day.
- 1:26:24Pittsburgh Steelers stupid organization even Dumber
- 1:26:28bringing in DK Metcalf and it's going to come back and backhand
- 1:26:31them right in the face. Let me guess, you guys a
- 1:26:34question you look at and this is just the facts here.
- 1:26:39They traded a wide receiver to the Cowboys, OK, And he is a
- 1:26:45he's a really good wide receiver.
- 1:26:46Couldn't control him. Mike Tomlin has always said that
- 1:26:49he's a player's coach, but could never control he's he's big
- 1:26:52personalities. Couldn't control Le'veon Bell,
- 1:26:54couldn't control obviously Santonio Holmes over the years,
- 1:26:59couldn't control any of those guys, even Antonio Brown.
- 1:27:04And this organization decides to trade a guy that they can't
- 1:27:08control for another guy that was crying and complaining in
- 1:27:11Seattle because he wasn't making enough.
- 1:27:15I mean, come on. Did that to me.
- 1:27:17You're just bringing in another problem.
- 1:27:19And then to top it all off, you're bringing the biggest
- 1:27:21problem and the biggest mouth in professional football.
- 1:27:24Ask Pat McAfee and Aaron Rodgers.
- 1:27:27You just really. Like that ayahuasca it it
- 1:27:29doesn't make. Sense.
- 1:27:30And now they're giving this guy Han an extended contract.
- 1:27:34Is that his name? Han Omar Khan.
- 1:27:36No, he wasn't the GM the whole time, but he again, the Steelers
- 1:27:39have not won a playoff game in TJ Watt's career.
- 1:27:42I don't care. How long he's been there, you
- 1:27:44give him an extension when this is an organization with all this
- 1:27:49talent when it comes to defense and they can't get out of the
- 1:27:52first round. Look at the teams that have
- 1:27:54beaten them over the last 8-8 years.
- 1:27:57They were. They were better than
- 1:27:58practically 5 or six of those teams, and they lost.
- 1:28:02Not against Buffalo. I'm not going to talk about
- 1:28:04that. Yeah.
- 1:28:05But they want 48 points to the Blake Bortles LED Jaguar.
- 1:28:09It's embarrassing. It is embarrassing, and I'm not
- 1:28:11going to sit here and beat around the Bush.
- 1:28:13And nobody honestly out there would actually believe that
- 1:28:17they're a smart organization because they're not.
- 1:28:20And there are not many smart organizations.
- 1:28:22I remember when they Pittsburgh was looked at, it was one of the
- 1:28:25smart ones. And so are the Giants.
- 1:28:27Over the last couple of years. Would you put the Giants in the
- 1:28:29Pittsburgh Steelers on the top? Not a chance in hell I'd put
- 1:28:33Philadelphia. I put Kansas City.
- 1:28:35Philadelphia has been a laughing stock when it came to executives
- 1:28:39and organizations of the way they're run.
- 1:28:41Look at how how they run right now.
- 1:28:43Yeah. The Eagles, like maybe two years
- 1:28:46in a row they'll, they'll be bad and they they bounce back
- 1:28:48quickly. The Giants have never recovered,
- 1:28:50no. And that you want.
- 1:28:51You don't want to know why. And all you giant fans, here's
- 1:28:54where it's going to sink really deep into your brains.
- 1:28:57It was a coach that won two of them that surprised the New
- 1:29:02England Patriots not once, but twice, and beat them undefeated.
- 1:29:06Tom friggin Coughlin, That was the reason why your team fell
- 1:29:13flat on their ass, because they decided, hey, we're not going to
- 1:29:18give him the defensive players we want because we want Ben
- 1:29:20McAdoo. Wonderful move for the New York
- 1:29:23Giants. Wonderful move for John Mara,
- 1:29:26who, by the way, was right again about Saquon Barkley.
- 1:29:29You're going to treat him in the same division?
- 1:29:31I mean, you're going to let him go to a team in the same
- 1:29:33division? What are you nuts?
- 1:29:35And what did he do? He almost broke Eric Dickerson's
- 1:29:38record and wins the Super Bowl and was arguably the best player
- 1:29:42throughout the Super Bowl of the playoffs all season long.
- 1:29:46So it just tells you one thing. Your owner's smart, but not
- 1:29:49smart enough. Don't worry, we.
- 1:29:51Gave Darius Slayton the same money this offseason.
- 1:29:53Oh yeah. Oh, that was.
- 1:29:54Another one. Oh what a joke.
- 1:29:56The guy that people and Giant fans compared to Odell Beckham.
- 1:30:00Maybe we started with Tyler. Harrison, what a joke.
- 1:30:02Oh my God, the Giants. I will say this, the quarterback
- 1:30:06they drafted in the first round looks pretty good.
- 1:30:08It looks pretty. Good.
- 1:30:09I've I've been watching some video and watching some footage
- 1:30:13about him and and what they're saying about him.
- 1:30:16Hey, if the Giants get a home run from him, even if they're
- 1:30:19wrong about the defensive line because he can't stay healthy
- 1:30:22from Penn State or any one of those guys, if they're right
- 1:30:25about that quarterback and they traded up and they got him the
- 1:30:28way they did and he becomes something special.
- 1:30:31Oh my God, yeah. Jackson Dart If if something if
- 1:30:35that works out for them. Oh what a freaking home run that
- 1:30:38is. Guess who that's.
- 1:30:39Going to make look bad the Steelers who also could have
- 1:30:41drafted him at #20 I listen, I mean.
- 1:30:44Dart did. His first pass in camp was a
- 1:30:47pick six. And what I've heard that did
- 1:30:49happen and what I've heard over the last couple of weeks and him
- 1:30:53practicing, he's the he's already the leader of that team.
- 1:30:57He's one of the top three leaders of that team.
- 1:30:59Yeah. Able actually had to come out
- 1:31:01and say that Wilson was the quarterback.
- 1:31:03Yes, because there's so much steam for Dart and he's so far
- 1:31:07ahead. Like in those intangible
- 1:31:08qualities than people realize. Well, first, we don't.
- 1:31:10We don't want, we don't want Jackson Dart learning leadership
- 1:31:12skills from Russell Wilson because we know how that went
- 1:31:14down. I'm just, I'm just telling you
- 1:31:16what I think. And I think that obviously when
- 1:31:19you look at the big picture and you look at the Giants, I mean,
- 1:31:23this, your GM has been an absolute debacle.
- 1:31:26But if they get it right with Jackson Dart, I mean, everything
- 1:31:30could go away. He could everything.
- 1:31:32All that goes away if Jackson Dart becomes a superstar player
- 1:31:36in this league. So I'm not saying that he is,
- 1:31:39but I've heard a lot of good things about him, you know, over
- 1:31:41the years, you know, when The Jets draft the quarterback, you
- 1:31:44hear all these mumblings are this guy's this.
- 1:31:46Yeah, he's not really as good as what they they say he is.
- 1:31:49He hasn't looked good in practice.
- 1:31:50Everything I've heard about Jackson Dart is he looks very
- 1:31:54special and he's already one of the top three team leaders of
- 1:31:58that giant team, even over the veterans.
- 1:32:00So says a lot about him and and I like the fact that he's taking
- 1:32:04charge and and he believes that he's going to be the, the giants
- 1:32:08quarterback for the future. So I, I mean, if you're a Giant
- 1:32:11fan, which I'm not, I can't stand the organization.
- 1:32:13You should be happy. We'll see if it works out for
- 1:32:14them. I I hope obviously our
- 1:32:17quarterback is the real deal and, and The Jets figure him out
- 1:32:21and turn him into something special.
- 1:32:22Carl doesn't believe so. Well, that's why Carl is
- 1:32:25Kniffen's worst nightmare or Kniffen is Carl's worst
- 1:32:29nightmare. Carl.
- 1:32:30Plays with himself, as we all know.
- 1:32:31Yeah. Because Carl's the expert.
- 1:32:33I know a great quarterback play as a Bears fan.
- 1:32:35The only team that's ever thrown 4000 yards in a season.
- 1:32:38Even the Browns have thrown 4000.
- 1:32:40Yards of the season. We all know.
- 1:32:41That things happen for a reason, and maybe the Giants get a slam
- 1:32:46dunk. If you're a Giant fan, you
- 1:32:48should be happy about that. As a Jet fan, I want to see them
- 1:32:50be pulverized. I want to see Jackson Duck
- 1:32:52running for his life three years from now when he plays the New
- 1:32:54York Jets, because that's what we pray to God.
- 1:32:57What's going to happen? By the way, did you hear that
- 1:32:59Will McDonald gained 15 lbs in the offseason?
- 1:33:04He looks really, really good. And a lot of different things
- 1:33:08that I've heard is he looks even faster than he did last year.
- 1:33:11As big as he is, could you imagine it was always his?
- 1:33:13Problem though, he was 239 coming out of the draft.
- 1:33:15That's why 15 lbs of. Muscle.
- 1:33:16That's good. Yeah, 15.
- 1:33:18Pounds of muscle and what I've heard through the coaching staff
- 1:33:21is he looks like a beast. He looked and and and they're
- 1:33:25saying that James Jermaine Johnson could be back a lot
- 1:33:27sooner than they saying that he could be at the end of the show.
- 1:33:31Ladies and gentlemen, it is Speedy's birthday this weekend.
- 1:33:34We're going to sing happy birthday.
- 1:33:35We're going to sing happy birthday.
- 1:33:37That includes you, Nathan. You better be ready.
- 1:33:39The little critter himself, Speedy.
- 1:33:41We're going to be singing Happy Birthday to the 30 year old big
- 1:33:45boy. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Big
- 1:33:4730 Nathan. Can you do bass background
- 1:33:49singing? I will say this.
- 1:33:51And I I've known Speedy since he was practically 20 years old.
- 1:33:56When he came to me, he was 21, almost 21.
- 1:33:59I'll never forget. I've known this kid for 10 years
- 1:34:01and he's a pain in the ass. He doesn't listen to me all the
- 1:34:04time, but one of the more nicest, generous personalities
- 1:34:09I've ever worked with and a guy that I said the lurves deserves
- 1:34:14a lot of accolades over the years while working with me and
- 1:34:17growing into the the talent that he is today.
- 1:34:19I, I, I take full, you know, pat on the back, Not that I, he's
- 1:34:25turned into the, the, the personality that he is, but a
- 1:34:28guy that helped him developed into the, the man that he is
- 1:34:31today. So I, I've respected his work
- 1:34:35and now I just got to respect some of the video cutting and
- 1:34:38some of the other stuff that he's doing.
- 1:34:39And he says, you know, double up on if you know what I mean.
- 1:34:42But nevertheless, happy birthday, Speedy.
- 1:34:44You deserve it. And I will sing you a happy
- 1:34:47birthday as I do every single year.
- 1:34:49It's definitely something to live about that you better be.
- 1:34:51Ready with the bass voice. Yes, ladies and gentle, let's go
- 1:34:55to a sports minute. We got a lot more to go, so
- 1:34:58sports minute, here we come. This.
- 1:35:01Is the Jabba and the Mouth sports minutes?
- 1:35:06All right guys, Aaron Fishman here with your sportsman.
- 1:35:10It got a few stories before we get into the baseball scores
- 1:35:13this evening. Edge rusher Trey Hendrickson did
- 1:35:16not report to Bengals camp as expected as Henderson refuses to
- 1:35:19budget on his contract demands and has taken to the media
- 1:35:22explaining a couple of times how the Bengals are trying to
- 1:35:25lowball the first team All Pro who's got 17 1/2 sacks in each
- 1:35:29of the last two seasons. Hendrickson has now come out and
- 1:35:33said he was willing to take less from the Bengals, but in the
- 1:35:36only two contract offers he has gotten from them they only
- 1:35:39guaranteed the first year of the deal where Hendrickson is
- 1:35:42looking for a long term commitment.
- 1:35:44It would seem the Bengals are pinching pennies as they are
- 1:35:47known to do and playing a dangerous game as their defense
- 1:35:50is certainly their weak point and that defense without
- 1:35:54Hendrickson may end up being one of the absolute worst in the NFL
- 1:35:58in 2025. Their next next best Ed rusher S
- 1:36:01round pick Shamar Stewart, who is also holding out as the
- 1:36:04Bengals are trying to put language in his cut rookie
- 1:36:07contract that would limit his guaranteed money to The Bengals
- 1:36:10are even bungling up slotted guarantee contracts this
- 1:36:14offseason. Joe Burrow and the boys look
- 1:36:16like they are going to have to air it out a lot in 2025.
- 1:36:19The fact that should garner special attention from all
- 1:36:22fantasy fans making their draft boards this summer.
- 1:36:26The. Buccaneers.
- 1:36:27Wide receiver Chris Godwin, who's resigned with the
- 1:36:29franchise on a three-year, $66 million deal with 44 million
- 1:36:33guaranteed this year. We'll start on the PUP list
- 1:36:36after his revealed Wednesday that Godwin had a second ankle
- 1:36:39surgery during his rehab from his dislocated ankle that cost
- 1:36:43him the 2024 season back in Week 7.
- 1:36:46Reportedly, the second surgery was just to clean out the ankle
- 1:36:49and a full recovery is expected. But Godwin will have to sit out
- 1:36:52at least the first four weeks of the season, giving some
- 1:36:55opportunity for rookie and Mecca Buka as well as returning second
- 1:36:59year receiver Jalen McMillan, Trey Palmer and former Giants
- 1:37:02legend Sterling Shepherd, opposite of future Hall of Famer
- 1:37:06Mike Evans. And finally, Dolphins
- 1:37:09quarterback to a taggle of the Lialoa says that it is a work in
- 1:37:13progress for wide receiver Tyree Kill to rebuild his trust with
- 1:37:17the team after seemingly quitting on the squad in the
- 1:37:20Dolphins season finale against The Jets and touting to the
- 1:37:23media after that he wanted to play elsewhere.
- 1:37:25Hillary reconsidered and apparently never officially
- 1:37:28asked for a trade from Dolphins GM for his career.
- 1:37:31I think there's a lot of more vulnerability with Tyreek.
- 1:37:34He's conversating a lot more with the guys, not just about
- 1:37:37football, but about things off the field to a said being
- 1:37:41vulnerable with some of the things that people know about
- 1:37:43his personal life and that things of that nature.
- 1:37:45And I think that's the first step to him building true
- 1:37:48relationships and a real connection with a lot of the
- 1:37:51guys in there. Everyone knows what he can do on
- 1:37:53the field. Everyone respects you can do it
- 1:37:55on the field, but I think he's still trying to figure out
- 1:37:57things for himself as well. Everybody makes mistakes.
- 1:38:00It's just some people they're in a spotlight and their deals get
- 1:38:03pushed out more than some others.
- 1:38:07Phil, who did not break 1000 yards last year after eclipsing
- 1:38:101700 in his first two in Miami, made more news off the field for
- 1:38:14various incidents than his production warranted on the
- 1:38:17field. This may be his last chance in
- 1:38:19Miami as he pulls a George Costanza and basically quits and
- 1:38:23is showing up back to work. But two in the team clearly
- 1:38:26noticed, unlike the fake Steinbrenner in the show
- 1:38:29Seinfeld. Guys, that is all we got right
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- 1:39:32speedster. He's dancing and prancing at 30
- 1:39:37as it is going to be his 30th birthday over the weekend.
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- 1:40:07My, my mouth is like on my mic today.
- 1:40:09I'm I'm like slobbering all over it.
- 1:40:12I, I, I just, I'm so excited to celebrate your 30th birthday.
- 1:40:16Hopefully you don't throw up because every single year in the
- 1:40:20last three years I've taken. I.
- 1:40:23Have taken you out. Oh wait a second.
- 1:40:25One of the years on my birthday, you were hiding in the bathroom
- 1:40:27because you were claiming. No, you had the runs.
- 1:40:30I yes, I did have the runs. No, you were you weren't
- 1:40:33throwing up. No, I wouldn't.
- 1:40:35I wouldn't have kept dancing if I if I was throwing up.
- 1:40:37Speedy, you weren't dancing after that.
- 1:40:39You went to that other club in Patchogue after that and I was
- 1:40:43dancing. Dude, I don't remember dancing.
- 1:40:45Speedy, what's your drink of choice on your birthday?
- 1:40:47Well, that a beer. Well, I had.
- 1:40:49Beer, I had beer there. There were other what was the
- 1:40:51other drinks that we had the the the first time with the the the
- 1:40:54pineapple stuff was what was that the?
- 1:40:57The Apple. Stuff.
- 1:40:58Yeah, I. Don't remember the name of it.
- 1:41:00At Fire Island it was a rocket, something that we had a fire
- 1:41:03Island those other years. Rocket fuels.
- 1:41:04Yeah, yeah, it. Must have been those that got
- 1:41:06something and along with the the wings.
- 1:41:07Like the wings? And you were throwing up all
- 1:41:09over. It was.
- 1:41:10Yeah. That was 20. 22 That was a rock
- 1:41:12I had. You know, I was trying for one
- 1:41:14second. I told him to go to the to go go
- 1:41:16to the garbage and barf in the garbage because I saw it in his
- 1:41:19face and he was like standing at the table.
- 1:41:21I'm like go to the garbage. By the time he went to the
- 1:41:23garbage, he was throwing up all over the place, and I mean all
- 1:41:27over the place. You're talking about security.
- 1:41:30Then I had somebody come up to me, one of the security guards
- 1:41:32that is a friend of mine actually came up to me and told
- 1:41:34me, Yo, is your, your friend Hawking that girl over there?
- 1:41:38She came up to me and said that he, he was up, he was like
- 1:41:42abusing her or like it was very threatening.
- 1:41:46I was like, what was threatening about it?
- 1:41:47I didn't see anything. But she said that he was like up
- 1:41:50on her face, like bothering us since she said hello.
- 1:41:53And when he said hello, I mean, I was weird.
- 1:41:56I, I, I didn't know what to say and I didn't see it.
- 1:41:58And I was trying to protect Speedy as I always do, because,
- 1:42:02you know, he's like a little brother.
- 1:42:03He's like the little engine that could or couldn't or we're
- 1:42:07trying to put some, you know, oil in that edge.
- 1:42:09And so he could start rocking and jocking.
- 1:42:11If you know what. Yeah, that's that's.
- 1:42:12What Nathan's goal is in his life, well, it's.
- 1:42:14Everybody's goal. I would like to see you, you
- 1:42:16know, sit on somebody's face, you know?
- 1:42:18Yeah. And that's.
- 1:42:18Never going to happen with you around.
- 1:42:20Well, wouldn't. It be.
- 1:42:21Wouldn't it be the other way around?
- 1:42:22No, sweetie. Sweetie needs to learn how you
- 1:42:25know first. He's got to learn that way
- 1:42:26before he learns the other way. If you know, I'm not learning.
- 1:42:29Anything from people that you've brainwashed?
- 1:42:31I'm not. Braining.
- 1:42:32I'm not braining. I'm not brainwashing anybody.
- 1:42:35By the way, I almost said Dante Beau Bichette actually just hit
- 1:42:39a two run home run. So I think the Yankees are
- 1:42:42starting to say, Louis, take me away, Speedy, You want to sing
- 1:42:47that song? No, that's a happy birthday.
- 1:42:51Nithin has to sing for my birthday.
- 1:42:52That's all of that Nithing. Can I would love to hear Nithing
- 1:42:55Sing actually say this? That's my I need.
- 1:42:58A gin and tonic that would be. Cool gin and tonic watch.
- 1:43:01Watch him come out. And sing and be like super
- 1:43:03super. That is how I.
- 1:43:04Want the song to finish? I need a gin and tonic.
- 1:43:07That is actually literally how I want the song to finish.
- 1:43:09Lick it. And stick it as he always.
- 1:43:11Does he licks everything he sticks?
- 1:43:12I request Nithin to finish the song with the gin and tonic ball
- 1:43:15bag. Speedy's ball.
- 1:43:16Bag Speedy outfingers your ball bag.
- 1:43:18No, I don't. Mess are you?
- 1:43:20Cocking or you're doodling, I don't know.
- 1:43:23We need to work on getting Tootsie Roll Fruities as
- 1:43:26fruities and Tootsie by the way, Java.
- 1:43:28Speaking of sponsor. It was funny, I don't know if
- 1:43:31you saw the video before they had the So the Browns were
- 1:43:34unveiling a new helmet. By the way, one guy I speed.
- 1:43:37Do you? Have a helmet, the dude.
- 1:43:38The dude fell off and then dude wipes.
- 1:43:40Yep. So you.
- 1:43:41Deleted it. Yeah, dude, dude wipes as long
- 1:43:44as. She's using dude.
- 1:43:45Wipes and taking care of my 2 hole.
- 1:43:46I'm very saying. That that guy said he had a lot
- 1:43:48of dude wipes Speedy, do you? Have a Do you have a little
- 1:43:50helmet or is it not circumcised? I have I had a set of the NFL
- 1:43:55helmets as when I was a kid. No, but is.
- 1:43:57It circumcised or do you have a little helmet?
- 1:43:59Oh, what do you what do you think?
- 1:44:00I I. We had the little collection of
- 1:44:01the NFL helmets. No, but is.
- 1:44:03It circumcised or I don't know. So you don't know if you have a
- 1:44:06little helmet. Not with me, ladies, I bet
- 1:44:15those. Little helmets.
- 1:44:16I bet those little. Helmets are worth something
- 1:44:18these days. I'm not talking about that
- 1:44:20little helmet. Well, I was trying to change
- 1:44:23the. Subject.
- 1:44:25I'm trying to figure out. No, you're getting, you're
- 1:44:27eating your Tootsie Roll. You're your blueberry Tootsie
- 1:44:30Roll. No, no, it's there's blue
- 1:44:33Raspberry. I can't show the green one
- 1:44:35because it won't show up. I oh God, I try to show the
- 1:44:39green one. I like Tootsie rolls, but I
- 1:44:41can't eat them in different colors.
- 1:44:43I have to eat them in chocolate. That and I, I, you ever go to
- 1:44:47you ever go to a, a gym and Planet Fitness one of them?
- 1:44:50I don't go to Planet Fitness anymore.
- 1:44:51But when, when you go to Planet Fitness, they have Tootsie rolls
- 1:44:54when you walk in. Has anybody seen that?
- 1:44:56And they have pizza night on Mondays, like you're a gym and
- 1:45:00you're selling, you're giving away pizza to make people fat.
- 1:45:04I mean, if that must be even either the worst, the worst
- 1:45:08advertisement, or the best, depending on if you're bringing
- 1:45:11in people, bringing in more people because they're fat to
- 1:45:14your gym, I don't know, cardio. Stay away from that pizza,
- 1:45:18ladies and gentlemen. But they have Tootsie rolls all
- 1:45:20the time. Every time I would leave, I'd
- 1:45:22grab like 8 or 9 Tootsie rolls and I'd put them in my car and
- 1:45:26thank God I didn't leave them in my cup holder because if it was
- 1:45:28summertime, it would have been melted like those are melted.
- 1:45:30That have been gross, absolutely gross as hell.
- 1:45:34All right, ladies and gentlemen, next do you want to do let's
- 1:45:37parlay first. All right, so West.
- 1:45:39Sent a couple of CFL picks as he usually does.
- 1:45:41Yeah, I said he has to go 3 and 1 this week to say 40.
- 1:45:44Percent after he was 2. And two last week he's got
- 1:45:46Calgary, this week -5 1/2 he's got Toronto plus 2 1/2 BC.
- 1:45:52BC of the BC lions -3 is that your?
- 1:45:55Cucumber or are you happy to see me and the Edmonton?
- 1:45:58Elks the fish wears. Panties.
- 1:46:00Laughingstock. Of the CFL he actually has them
- 1:46:02covering plus 9 1/2 I need. A magnifying glass.
- 1:46:07You're going to need that one after those picks, but they're
- 1:46:11winners. CFL, if you're a W fan, they're
- 1:46:15winners. I, I can't lie to you guys, He
- 1:46:17knows his stuff. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:46:20we call this next segment Tick Tack no.
- 1:46:26Morris. Right in the butt.
- 1:46:29We get the prizes cheap because they're stolen.
- 1:46:33No, no. No, no, no.
- 1:46:41No, no, no athletes. And they're.
- 1:46:45Speedy, you know what? I will say this, Speedy, and if
- 1:46:50you really watch the footage here and if he really gets
- 1:46:52closer, you could see the back of my head as I watched Speedy
- 1:46:55doing his little tantrum. I call this like a tantrum
- 1:46:59dance. Like it looks like he's like
- 1:47:01yelling at his mom and doing a tantrum.
- 1:47:03Like, like he has ants in his pants.
- 1:47:05You know, fish. I have to ask, do you remember
- 1:47:07exactly which song that was from What I.
- 1:47:11Think it was like that Journey song.
- 1:47:14Oh, separate ways. I think they played separate
- 1:47:16ways. I think it.
- 1:47:16Might have been like, yeah, one of those I love.
- 1:47:19Lisa Ann Songs. Yeah.
- 1:47:21I know they played separate ways is the first one they played
- 1:47:23Don't stop believing a little later, but I think yeah I need.
- 1:47:25Brittany also that probably fits for.
- 1:47:27That well. I will say that that was the
- 1:47:29best part of the night was when we were dancing with to the band
- 1:47:32and the band was absolutely sensational.
- 1:47:35And they came over here to our side.
- 1:47:36And you know, I, I'll say this, my friend Ray, who haven't
- 1:47:40spoken to in a couple of weeks because he's been depressed.
- 1:47:42If you listen, Ray, you know I love you.
- 1:47:45Yeah, he's been a little depressed.
- 1:47:46And unfortunately, you know, he's gone through so much over
- 1:47:50the last couple of months and, and really last past year.
- 1:47:53I, I give him a lot of credit, but hopefully he's OK, gets out
- 1:47:57of that cocoon, that little turtle shell, as I call him
- 1:47:59ninja, a ninja turtle, a little ninja turtle.
- 1:48:01I would say he's more Raphael because he's in one of his bad
- 1:48:04moods. But nevertheless, I, I, I will
- 1:48:07say that when we were, we were at the events for, you know,
- 1:48:11for, for the birthday bash while we were there.
- 1:48:14Anyway, it was your birthday. It was my birthday.
- 1:48:15It was your birthday. That's right.
- 1:48:18We, we the, the band, when we were dancing to the band was the
- 1:48:21best part. So just just say it was fun.
- 1:48:24And fish had to go home early. And I, I got to give you a
- 1:48:27credit for a guy, you know, his wife was supposed to come and
- 1:48:30hang out with us. If anybody doesn't know, but
- 1:48:33they didn't have a dog sitter. So she had to stay home and
- 1:48:36watch the dog. She wanted it.
- 1:48:37She never met me, and she wanted to come out and hang out with me
- 1:48:40and Brittany. She never got a chance to.
- 1:48:42And he came four hours practically by himself and to
- 1:48:46hang out for a couple hours, 2-3 hours to go back home, 4 hours
- 1:48:50and drive home. So I got to give him a Golf
- 1:48:52Club. Golf.
- 1:48:53Clap for the old fisherman over here.
- 1:48:55The old fish. I'll exaggerate.
- 1:48:57It wasn't that far, but I do appreciate it.
- 1:48:59Let's get the music on. Speedy, you got some questions
- 1:49:01to beat us this time. We killed you last time.
- 1:49:03All right, we'll start. This week with a David Wright
- 1:49:06theme again I had it in my 6 pack.
- 1:49:07They acquired the rights to David Wright as a compensation
- 1:49:10player in 2001 because the Mets lost what starting pitcher to
- 1:49:14free agency. In 2. 1001, Yep.
- 1:49:19So that means he played. I'm going to Rain Man this.
- 1:49:22Mike Hampton. You got it.
- 1:49:25You all right? Wow.
- 1:49:27All right. I tried getting him.
- 1:49:29On the shelf, Where did he go to because the.
- 1:49:30Schools were so good in Colorado.
- 1:49:32I'll never forget that. That's why he had to leave bad
- 1:49:34schools in New York, you know, clearly.
- 1:49:37Schools he wasn't a. Good man.
- 1:49:38Anyways, he really wasn't. They overpaid him.
- 1:49:42Mike Hampton. Well, they overpaid him in
- 1:49:44freaking Colorado, too. He was trapped.
- 1:49:47Yeah, he was not good in course field.
- 1:49:49He was a better hitter than I think he was pitcher.
- 1:49:51That's true. He did hit a lot of homers.
- 1:49:54Yeah, I did. All.
- 1:49:55Right. I'm taking the middle speedy.
- 1:49:57You're going to have to do better than that.
- 1:49:58All right, so. Phillip Rivers announced his
- 1:50:01official retirement as a Charger just recently.
- 1:50:04A lot of people making jokes about that.
- 1:50:05So the year that he led the NFL in passing yards was 2010.
- 1:50:09So the other five quarterbacks who are top five were Drew Brees
- 1:50:13and the 2 Manning brothers. What quarterback was the other
- 1:50:16one? So top five in passing 2010 in
- 1:50:202000. 10. 2010 Hayden, Eli. You're muted Java.
- 1:50:36It has to be. Somebody off the wall. 2000. 10
- 1:50:44I mean, I don't even want to say it because it's it feels too
- 1:50:48obvious. Who is it?
- 1:50:50I mean Brady. You know the two obvious angle
- 1:50:56was correct there. It's not Brady.
- 1:50:59Someone had to say it though. Who do you have?
- 1:51:05Brady was out to that the year before with the injury, right?
- 1:51:08That was O. Eight he was out the injury.
- 1:51:11I'm remembering 2010. I'm looking at, I'm listening.
- 1:51:14I'm thinking about the quarterbacks at that time.
- 1:51:20I know it wasn't Ben. I wasn't.
- 1:51:22It wasn't Ben, it wasn't him. Was it Matt Ryan?
- 1:51:28I don't know if I. Should go a little bit more
- 1:51:29obscure, but she's obvious but like.
- 1:51:35Oh my. God, I wonder, was it?
- 1:51:38I know who it is. Was it Aaron Rodgers?
- 1:51:39It was not. That's what I was going to
- 1:51:42guess. I'm going to go.
- 1:51:43Another not super Carson Palmer? Nope, is.
- 1:51:47It 2000. 10 when the green. Bay Packers.
- 1:51:49Was both of my guess. That's a good guess, that.
- 1:51:51Costume problem was a good guess.
- 1:51:54Was that? Zach, was that your other one?
- 1:51:57No, no, but that's just a good guess.
- 1:51:58I forgot. Both of both of my guests jobs
- 1:52:01Rogers or Carson Palmer. But like, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:52:05It's got to. Be it's got to be what about?
- 1:52:07What about the guy that's playing for the Giants this
- 1:52:09year? Oh yeah.
- 1:52:11Russell Wilson. He wasn't in.
- 1:52:15The league. Oh, no, you're right.
- 1:52:17No. Yeah, he wasn't even drafted
- 1:52:18yet. Never mind the next year.
- 1:52:20Yeah, never. Mind.
- 1:52:23Who else in 20? 10.
- 1:52:25I think Zach, you're our only savior right now.
- 1:52:27Zach. Guess Matt Ryan.
- 1:52:28No, I guess. I guess, Matt.
- 1:52:30Who's got a guess? Left, it's just me.
- 1:52:33I'm trying to think 20 tens. You said, you said Drew Brees is
- 1:52:36number one, right? Drew Brees.
- 1:52:38So it's. Not Breeze.
- 1:52:39Eli Payton, Eli. Payton and man, there are
- 1:52:43Rivers. Yeah.
- 1:52:45It's not Brady. It's not Big Ben.
- 1:52:46It's not Rogers, not Carson Palmer.
- 1:52:49I looked it. Up.
- 1:52:50I don't think you're going to get it.
- 1:52:51Yeah, I'm just all right. You got to give an answer, Jake.
- 1:52:55All right, that's speedy. Go ahead.
- 1:52:57So, Zach. Zach.
- 1:52:58You were actually the closest because it was a guy that backed
- 1:53:00up Matt Ryan previously. Matt Schaub is the answer.
- 1:53:03Matt. Schaub with Andre John.
- 1:53:07We did have that little. Run there in the 2010 Matt
- 1:53:09Schaub, Yeah. Yeah, Jake and Zach.
- 1:53:12You were right about the obscure angle that was.
- 1:53:15That was actually a good one, Speedy.
- 1:53:16That was a really good question, Speedy.
- 1:53:19That's not the guy we think of where you're going bottom right,
- 1:53:22bottom right, right here. And.
- 1:53:25Let's move on. All right, so.
- 1:53:26Chris Paul you were meant to get earlier in the basketball
- 1:53:29segment. He actually just resigned with
- 1:53:31the Clippers. So we have a Chris Paul theme
- 1:53:33question. One of his most impressive
- 1:53:34accomplishments was 106 to consecutive games with a steel
- 1:53:39streak. So who which Hall of Fame point
- 1:53:41guard did he steal from the ball from to break the record?
- 1:53:44John. Stockton Nope.
- 1:53:47Damn in. 2000. 8 Is there a year?
- 1:53:48Can we get a year now? I said 2000.
- 1:53:50I said 2008. Oh, 2008, OK, I got you in the
- 1:53:54league. No, OK.
- 1:53:56You said point guard or just guard?
- 1:53:58Point guard. Damn, like I.
- 1:54:01Didn't. Hear 2008.
- 1:54:03I'm going to say Jason Kidd. I feel like that's obvious
- 1:54:05though. Jason Kidd.
- 1:54:07No, you're still playing man. It could have been man, but no
- 1:54:09Hall of Fame point guard. But no, not Jason Kidd, is it?
- 1:54:12Oscar Robertson. No.
- 1:54:13No. Not what his grand.
- 1:54:15His grandson. Oh, I thought you were saying
- 1:54:19like in 2000. 8 No, he stole, he stole the ball from him.
- 1:54:24Oh, in two. 1008 I thought you were saying he he broke the
- 1:54:27whole the guy that. I listened.
- 1:54:29To it wrong. Too, Jake, I thought this I
- 1:54:31didn't I? Didn't hear it.
- 1:54:32Jake, the guy he broke. The record from I didn't even
- 1:54:34know who he was, so I wasn't going to make that the question.
- 1:54:36That would've been really hard. You want me to?
- 1:54:37Guess. I'm going to guess, yeah.
- 1:54:38What do you got? Steve Nash?
- 1:54:40Nope. That's a tough question, man.
- 1:54:43I'm trying to. Think.
- 1:54:44Who's gone into the Hall of Fame from that era, probably near the
- 1:54:51end of his career. Point.
- 1:54:53Guard or is he like A2 guard? He said.
- 1:54:56He said point guard, Yeah. There's only so.
- 1:54:59Many it could be and I'm like I'm blanking and I keep talking
- 1:55:02of. Someone but.
- 1:55:03He's not a point guard. They.
- 1:55:06Didn't put Chauncey Billups in the Hall of Fame, did they?
- 1:55:08I don't think so. I don't think so.
- 1:55:11Either I need. A blow up.
- 1:55:14I. Don't know this one at all.
- 1:55:16Job A. Lot of I don't want to guess.
- 1:55:20I can't even think. Just guess.
- 1:55:22You might as well guess. Make a guess, Zach.
- 1:55:24I was. I don't know if he's.
- 1:55:25In the Hall of Fame though, I was good as my other guess was
- 1:55:27going to be like Jason Williams, but I don't know if he was
- 1:55:30playing in 2008. White chocolate.
- 1:55:32Yeah. He's not a hall.
- 1:55:34Not a Hall of Famer, OK. That's who I thought.
- 1:55:36OK, I messed up I. Didn't hear the Hall of Fame
- 1:55:38part. I'm just.
- 1:55:39Trying to think of like very obscure no?
- 1:55:42No, he's a Hall. He's a well known Hall of Fame.
- 1:55:45Oh, OK, he's well known. OK, well.
- 1:55:47Known Hall of Fame point guard. I'm going.
- 1:55:52To kill myself, I know I'm going to.
- 1:55:54Be mad when he when he says it I need.
- 1:55:56Like a list of teams? In front.
- 1:55:58Of me and I'm not going to cheat so I'm just going to pass.
- 1:56:01I think I know who it is and I'm sitting here.
- 1:56:03Go for it. We're done.
- 1:56:06I don't like, can I? Get a guest to that mess.
- 1:56:08Go. Ahead, Jake, Is it?
- 1:56:09Is it? Rondo.
- 1:56:10No Rondo. Those I.
- 1:56:12Don't think Rondo's Hall of Fame either.
- 1:56:13Does he play for San Antonio? Yes.
- 1:56:17Who do you guys think it is? Well, if it's San Antonio, it's
- 1:56:21Tony Parker. Tony Parker.
- 1:56:23Yeah, it was. It was either Steve Nash or Tony
- 1:56:25Parker in my head, so those. Are the only.
- 1:56:28Two guys. All right, well.
- 1:56:30We didn't get it, Speedy, where you going?
- 1:56:32All right, let's. Go bottom left, all right.
- 1:56:38Here we. Go.
- 1:56:40I missed it. Who was it?
- 1:56:41Tony. Parker should have thought.
- 1:56:44Of that very frustrated I didn't.
- 1:56:47I know it's either one or the other.
- 1:56:51All right, so you guys got to get this one to stay alive here.
- 1:56:53We'll go back to baseball for this one.
- 1:56:55So obviously, I don't know if you've heard the Red Sox have
- 1:56:58had two straight games with a catcher's interference,
- 1:57:00including one that led to a walk off for the Phillies.
- 1:57:03I know, Jake, you're happy about that one.
- 1:57:04So the last time there was a catcher that got called for a
- 1:57:09walk off pass catcher's interference, it was a Hall of
- 1:57:11Famer who wasn't. Wait, say that.
- 1:57:16One more time, so the last. Time there was a walk off on a
- 1:57:18catcher's interference. It was a Hall of Fame legendary
- 1:57:21catcher. Name this player.
- 1:57:23Before, before, before the other day, a couple days ago.
- 1:57:27Yeah, when when the Red Sox did against the Phillies.
- 1:57:30How long? How long?
- 1:57:32Ago would this. Like.
- 1:57:35I think I remember I was watching the game last.
- 1:57:36They said it was like it was really long ago, Jabba.
- 1:57:39So it was a long time ago. I have no idea though.
- 1:57:44Oh. Did.
- 1:57:45Is that a? Pudge thing No.
- 1:57:49Hudge Rodriguez? No.
- 1:57:50I think Sarah Lang tweeted this out this morning.
- 1:57:53Yes. Is it Pudge?
- 1:57:55No, it's not Pudge. Jabba's right.
- 1:57:57It's further back, all right. It's.
- 1:57:59Right here. Yeah.
- 1:58:00It's on the top of your blue Raspberry Tootsie Roll tongue.
- 1:58:04No, it's green. You can't see it.
- 1:58:05Oh, it's green. What is that?
- 1:58:08What is that? Lemon line.
- 1:58:11No green apple. Green apple is it?
- 1:58:16Johnny Bench, it is very good. All right, 19. 71.
- 1:58:22You know who I thought it was? Yogi Berra.
- 1:58:27Wow. All right, Java, you saved the
- 1:58:30day on that one super high clutch rating in the advanced
- 1:58:35analytics for Tic Tac. No blocking Speedy right there
- 1:58:39we have we can win on this next one Speedy make it a good one.
- 1:58:44All right, let's go to some hockey.
- 1:58:45So as you know, Gavin McKenna, the big phenom, got committed to
- 1:58:49your school, Jake, Penn State going over there.
- 1:58:51So among NHL players and this, this guy's an active current
- 1:58:56player for one of the tri-state area teams who has the most
- 1:59:00points ever from any player born in Pennsylvania, and he's an
- 1:59:04active tri-state player. So wait, what?
- 1:59:06Was it from Penn? Most points, Yeah, it's the
- 1:59:08most. Points in NHL history from any
- 1:59:10player that was born in Pennsylvania and he currently
- 1:59:13plays for either the Rangers, Islanders or Devils.
- 1:59:16I'm going to predict he plays for the Devils.
- 1:59:18I had to. If I had them in front of me, I
- 1:59:20would tell you. I know I'm the same way.
- 1:59:22Like I need the I need. I'm going to take a guess.
- 1:59:24All right? What do you got?
- 1:59:25Jack Hughes. Nope.
- 1:59:25So not. Jack Hughes, I know it's.
- 1:59:28Not it's going to have to be someone who's played longer.
- 1:59:30It's got to be a veteran. It's on the devil's.
- 1:59:32I'm telling you they're it's on is it on the devil's speedy?
- 1:59:35No, really. So the.
- 1:59:40Maybe the? Oldest, I like the sneak.
- 1:59:41I like this sneaky trick right there.
- 1:59:43Errol, does he play third double s?
- 1:59:45No. So we don't see the Rangers.
- 1:59:46Or just go on, boys. Speedy is gonna block us.
- 1:59:49Speedy. Who is it?
- 1:59:50What is it? It's a Trocheck.
- 1:59:58Damn it. Spit it out speed.
- 2:00:02Let's go. All right, so all right, there
- 2:00:05it is. There's the block.
- 2:00:06Next question. All right, so the next.
- 2:00:07One is TJ Watt is one of two players to have 4 all pro
- 2:00:12appearances in the last 20 years and never win a playoff game.
- 2:00:15What recent Hall of Famer is the other one?
- 2:00:18So what was? What was the criter?
- 2:00:19Are you staying same position or just all pro?
- 2:00:22Any position one of two players in the last 20 years to have 4
- 2:00:26all pro appearances and never win a playoff game.
- 2:00:29Who was the other one? You said.
- 2:00:32Recent Hall of Famer? Yep.
- 2:00:37Oh. Can we get how recent?
- 2:00:39No. Oh, wait.
- 2:00:41I know who it is. It's Joe Thomas.
- 2:00:44Nope. No, he wasn't all pro 4 times.
- 2:00:47Nope. He was more, he was actually
- 2:00:49more. It's exactly 4 is what I was
- 2:00:51going. At a speedy that's that's not
- 2:00:53fair. That's ridiculous.
- 2:00:58Speedy come. On that, that's bullshit.
- 2:01:02Another question. Give us another question.
- 2:01:03Do you have another question? It's a very easy answer.
- 2:01:06All right, I'll give you. I'll give you.
- 2:01:07It was an offensive skill player.
- 2:01:09I'll give you at least give you that.
- 2:01:12Exactly 4 times recent Hall of Famer, yes.
- 2:01:16Randy. Boss.
- 2:01:18No recent Hall of Famer last five years.
- 2:01:20Oh. Skilled.
- 2:01:21Player Yeah, so. Running back, A receiver, A
- 2:01:23tight end running back. Receiver or.
- 2:01:26Tight. End.
- 2:01:28Never won a playoff game, or never went to a playoff game or
- 2:01:31never won a playoff game. Never won a playoff, Adrian.
- 2:01:33Peterson. Never won?
- 2:01:33Nope. His team.
- 2:01:34His team was in the playoffs three times, but they never won
- 2:01:37a playoff game. It's not Megatron.
- 2:01:39Is it? It is very.
- 2:01:42Good, Jake. Oh, I just.
- 2:01:44Said the only name because you're like three playoff times
- 2:01:47and like, I think the only team I could think of was like
- 2:01:50Dafford and the Lines and I'm like, well, he didn't have
- 2:01:53anybody, you know? Yeah, they have.
- 2:01:55That run. But yeah, he didn't play that
- 2:01:57long. We're going to give you the.
- 2:01:59Nithin all right. Here.
- 2:02:02So where you want to? Go, let's go.
- 2:02:05Left, middle. All right.
- 2:02:07Here it is all right, Speedy, getting late early here all
- 2:02:11right so. Damian Lillard returns to the
- 2:02:13Blazers for a second stint, and he is one of three players that
- 2:02:17has seven or more All Pro appearances with playing two
- 2:02:21stints on the same team. LeBron is the obvious 1, going
- 2:02:24to the Cavs twice. Damian Lillard And who is the
- 2:02:27other one? Say that one more time.
- 2:02:29So Damian Lillard returns to the Blazers.
- 2:02:31He has second stint appearances. So who are the only three
- 2:02:34players? Damian Lillard?
- 2:02:35LeBron is is 1, going back to the Cavs for a second time.
- 2:02:38Who is the other player with seven or more more All NBA
- 2:02:42appearances playing on the same team two different times?
- 2:02:48Jason. Kidd.
- 2:02:49Nope. He did.
- 2:02:50I know we went to Dallas and he went back to.
- 2:02:53Dallas is it? Is it Dwyane Wade?
- 2:02:56Now what? What are you saying?
- 2:02:58Was it current or it's, it's 2000s?
- 2:03:02It's somebody, it's, it's somebody there.
- 2:03:04He's not playing currently though.
- 2:03:09Went back. To his team.
- 2:03:12And was obviously. Legit seven time or more.
- 2:03:15That's why I said Jason Kidd, because Jason Kidd was.
- 2:03:19He went back. To Dallas what?
- 2:03:20How many times did he How many times did he win?
- 2:03:22Who else went back home at the end?
- 2:03:26To wrap it. Up.
- 2:03:27Did it matter at what time of their career or did you say no,
- 2:03:31Just just? As long as they had a second
- 2:03:33stint with the team, Hall of. Famer Speedy.
- 2:03:35It didn't have to be at. The end of his career, yes.
- 2:03:39It did not have to be at the end of his career.
- 2:03:40How is it not? Jason Kidd. 2.
- 2:03:48Thousands. That's a tough.
- 2:03:56One Jason. Kidd was five time all NBA, not
- 2:04:00a. Second five time.
- 2:04:04Off so it has to be all NBA. So what was the?
- 2:04:08Position that was easy to get all NBA at centre right.
- 2:04:12So it would be like Shaq. Shaq didn't go back to Shaq
- 2:04:15didn't go back anywhere. Shaq.
- 2:04:17Didn't go. Back.
- 2:04:19Hakeem. Did he go back?
- 2:04:22To the Rockets, No, I think, I think job, I think he went to
- 2:04:26the Rockets and then he retired on Toronto.
- 2:04:28Yeah, yeah. I may have a guess.
- 2:04:33I don't know if it's right though.
- 2:04:34Is it Kevin Garnett? Nope.
- 2:04:38He never went. Back to Minnesota?
- 2:04:39No, he. Didn't.
- 2:04:40Oh, I thought he did OK. So it's.
- 2:04:46Fish and. Jabba, have guesses left.
- 2:04:51I'm trying to. Remember, it's so tough, all
- 2:04:59right? Seven time all NBA that went.
- 2:05:04Seven time all NBA that went back.
- 2:05:07Did. Pippin, go back.
- 2:05:10At the end. I'm going to say Pippin, no.
- 2:05:172000 Not trying to think it. Wasn't Dwight Howard your same
- 2:05:25position? Not Dwight Howard.
- 2:05:32Oh. God was Dukembe.
- 2:05:34Out in the tooth that no, I don't.
- 2:05:36Know. If Dukembe was.
- 2:05:38That good? I'm going to throw.
- 2:05:43Dukembe out there? No.
- 2:05:45It was actually somebody that was mentioned before, Steve
- 2:05:47Nash. Steve.
- 2:05:49Nash. All.
- 2:05:52Right, Speedy. Wow, looks like you're going to
- 2:05:56block us again. We're almost with a full board
- 2:05:58here. It looks like we'll we'll just
- 2:06:00go into the Jimmy Leyritz when he gets in.
- 2:06:03But let's put it here, Speedy. You can still score.
- 2:06:09You can still score. We can't win, except for coming
- 2:06:11down to the tiebreaker, which has only ever happened once and
- 2:06:14Tic Tac, no history. Let's do a speedy.
- 2:06:17All right, so. Aaron Judge became the fastest
- 2:06:19of 350 home runs. Who was the fastest of 400?
- 2:06:22I'm just going. To throw out a guess, was it a
- 2:06:24pool host? Nope.
- 2:06:25A rod? Nope.
- 2:06:27Miguel Cabrera? Nope.
- 2:06:29Was it McGuire? Yep.
- 2:06:31Java gets that. Oh, Java.
- 2:06:35Excellent. So looks like.
- 2:06:37He had that run. Where it was, I think he hit
- 2:06:39like. 200. And some in like 3 years it felt
- 2:06:42like. So.
- 2:06:44I guess so. Jimmy is in.
- 2:06:44So I guess we're going to call this 1A draw is what it looks
- 2:06:47like. Well, the last one is the tie
- 2:06:49breaking question, whoever is going to win.
- 2:06:51So it all comes down to this. Whoever gets this question is
- 2:06:54the winner. Sudden death overtime.
- 2:06:56All right, so we'll go back to. Football for this one.
- 2:06:58So honey, get. Out of here, honey.
- 2:07:00Badger is just announcing his retirement as well.
- 2:07:04There were three players in that draft that were in the third
- 2:07:07round, picks that were Pro Bowl players.
- 2:07:09Name one of the other two. They're both offensive players
- 2:07:13in the in the 2013 NFL Draft. Aren't we talking about Russell
- 2:07:18Wilson earlier tonight? It's not.
- 2:07:20Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson was.
- 2:07:23The 2012 draft? Nobody.
- 2:07:25What draft? Was Kyra Matthew?
- 2:07:27Was the 2020 20/13/20? 13.
- 2:07:30NFL. Draft In the third round, there
- 2:07:32are two two other players that are still both active that were
- 2:07:35Pro Bowl players. Name.
- 2:07:37Name one of them. Damn, I thought I had that.
- 2:07:41Wilson was 2012 it. Was the third round.
- 2:07:44Though I was right about that. He was the.
- 2:07:46RG3 and there were third. Round pick?
- 2:07:48Yep, he was the third round. Pick.
- 2:07:49Russell Wilson was the third round pick in the 2012 draft.
- 2:07:51These two players in the 2013 draft, both offensive players.
- 2:07:56George Kim was. Was.
- 2:07:57Kirk Cousins in that draft. Kirk Cousins.
- 2:08:00Was also the 2012 draft, yeah. He was the.
- 2:08:03RG3 backup. When he was later.
- 2:08:06In the draft, yeah, he was like the.
- 2:08:07Fourth round, I believe late four, I thought he.
- 2:08:09Was the 3rd. Damn.
- 2:08:13Man. Pretty good.
- 2:08:15Questions. This this, this time, Speedy.
- 2:08:19Duty Dodger Joba is not an athlete.
- 2:08:29I like anal. He tastes.
- 2:08:36Himself I gave. Up the booty.
- 2:08:38This makes my. Pecker hard.
- 2:08:40Who has guesses? Left Jabba and Zach.
- 2:08:42What about skid? Mark.
- 2:08:45As long as she's using dude wipes and taking.
- 2:08:47Care of my 2 hole, I'm good. Pulled it out of my ass.
- 2:08:53Pulled it out of. My ass I I got nothing.
- 2:08:56I. Got nothing.
- 2:08:59All right, I'll give you, I'll give you 2.
- 2:09:00One more hint. One's a receiver, one's a tight
- 2:09:02end. I farted. 2011. 2013, 2013 Third
- 2:09:06round third round Guy became an all pro or just Pro Bowl.
- 2:09:11Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl.
- 2:09:13You said from. Wisconsin.
- 2:09:15Bagel. Hole.
- 2:09:15I said he was a Pro Bowl player. No, I said.
- 2:09:17He's just an offense Woody has. No, Woody one's a receiver.
- 2:09:20One's a tight end, Jimmy. I shut.
- 2:09:22Up on your face, Jimmy is in. So we got to make our guess this
- 2:09:25soon. I don't want to keep.
- 2:09:26All right, make your last. Guess I think I know who one of
- 2:09:28them is. Wasn't wasn't that the year
- 2:09:30Kelsey came in? I.
- 2:09:32Need a magnet, right? Yeah.
- 2:09:36Jabba with the West in stunning death overtime.
- 2:09:40When you said tight end, I was like because I I was thinking
- 2:09:43like running back and receiver. And then you.
- 2:09:46Said. I was like, who was the other?
- 2:09:48One Speedy, the other one was Keenan.
- 2:09:50Allen, I shut. Up on your face, My dog wants
- 2:09:53your Pussycat. Get these damn.
- 2:09:56Free. Yeah, didn't.
- 2:09:57Just didn't keen Allen just retire too?
- 2:09:58That's crazy. No, no, he just.
- 2:10:00Resigned with the Chargers now he still resign he's.
- 2:10:01Still going? Oh.
- 2:10:03That was Mike Williams, right? Mike Williams.
- 2:10:05Retired. Yes, he signed back with
- 2:10:06somehow. Keenan Allen lasted longer than
- 2:10:08Mike Williams. Well Keenan Allen was a better
- 2:10:10player than Mike Williams. He's like like Mike Williams
- 2:10:14only made it like 8 years and now like Keenown's like year 13
- 2:10:16or he had a lot of. Bad injuries though, fish.
- 2:10:18Yeah, unfortunately. So, so has.
- 2:10:20So has Keenan Allen. I think he's, yeah, he had a
- 2:10:22freak. Injury at the end of 20
- 2:10:23Beginning of the 2016 season. Keenan Allen.
- 2:10:25'S had like 3 big, big injuries in his earlier on in his career
- 2:10:30and then last year there's still big He had like a good stretch.
- 2:10:32He tore his ACL. I remember that.
- 2:10:35I, I think he did he not do something with his ankle or
- 2:10:38something? Yeah, he had a bad.
- 2:10:39Ankle injury at the end of the year, one of the years of in the
- 2:10:42playoffs, he's had a lot. Of major injuries and to come I.
- 2:10:45Always thought, you know, was like the more underappreciated
- 2:10:48Mike Evans. Whereas like Mike, I think
- 2:10:50people have recognized how great Mike Evans is now, but people
- 2:10:52didn't always talk about him. I feel like Keenan Alan was the
- 2:10:54guy who always got forgotten about the 20 tens.
- 2:10:57Receiver, I don't think Keenan Allen was a first round pick, so
- 2:10:59it was a third round pick yeah. So that's what you're saying all
- 2:11:02these guys right there I'm saying cuz he.
- 2:11:03Like he worked, he built himself up, but like, he was always
- 2:11:06underappreciated. Like he was always a great wide
- 2:11:07receiver. No, he.
- 2:11:09Developed into one, that's for sure.
- 2:11:10And and thank you to Philip Rivers as everybody don't want
- 2:11:14to give him any credit for what he's done.
- 2:11:15By everyone you mean. Steve Weiss, No.
- 2:11:18TJ Ward and TJ. Ward, he pretty much he said
- 2:11:21none of them should make the he said none of them should make
- 2:11:24the the Hall of Fame. So I was very shocked that he
- 2:11:27did. I do appreciate.
- 2:11:28TJ Ward for joining my Chargers hater bandwagon.
- 2:11:31All right. Ladies and gentlemen, it's been
- 2:11:32waiting commonly and carefully as he always does.
- 2:11:35We are now talking to our 2nd guest.
- 2:11:38Well, we didn't have a first guest because he accidentally
- 2:11:40had something to do at the last minute.
- 2:11:43So we have our 2nd guest and we are now talking to 11 year MLB
- 2:11:48catcher Jimmy Lawrence. Jimmy, what's up?
- 2:11:51What's happening, fellas? How we doing?
- 2:11:53We're good. Man, you look good.
- 2:11:54Man. I, I will say this.
- 2:11:56The last time I saw you, I said you look the same you did when
- 2:12:00you played for the Yankees in the 90s.
- 2:12:02You look good, man. You look like you're in shape.
- 2:12:05You're taking good care of yourself.
- 2:12:06You're probably better shape now than you did when you did play
- 2:12:09well. Yeah, I don't drink as hard as I
- 2:12:11did when I played. Well, I really appreciate,
- 2:12:18obviously you giving us the time.
- 2:12:21You're a busy guy. The last time you were on our
- 2:12:22show, you were in a you were at a playoff game.
- 2:12:25You were at the Yankees playoff game if I'm not mistaken, it was
- 2:12:28against Cleveland. Kansas City, KS City.
- 2:12:30I remember that well because the the 1st guest we had on that day
- 2:12:33was the Savannah Banana coach Adam Vyrant, who's a big Royals
- 2:12:36fan and he said he was at the previous game.
- 2:12:38Then you were the 2nd guest actually at the game and we.
- 2:12:41We had a lot of conversations about obviously the Yankees and
- 2:12:45what the Yankees have to do to get through to the next round.
- 2:12:48And you were pretty much on point on where the Yankees were
- 2:12:53in the playoffs, especially against Kansas City.
- 2:12:56So my question here to you is I'm watching the Yankees right
- 2:12:59now. It's absolutely putrid.
- 2:13:01I have watched terrible defense after terrible defense all
- 2:13:06season long. You have a guy that Anthony
- 2:13:08Volpe, he was two years ago he was side what was, I'm sorry,
- 2:13:13not Gold Glove winner, great defensive player.
- 2:13:17And now all of a sudden he went from a great defensive player to
- 2:13:20one of the worst defensive players in the MLB.
- 2:13:22Statistics would show you ERA wise and the guy couldn't hit a
- 2:13:26broad right. What did they call it?
- 2:13:28The broad side of a barn outside of the barn.
- 2:13:31Yes, as we've heard, what is going on with the Yankees,
- 2:13:35what's going on with some of the youngsters that they've had over
- 2:13:38the last couple of years? And why are the Yankees one of
- 2:13:42the worst defensive teams in the first half in all of baseball?
- 2:13:45That is the. Answer we're all looking for
- 2:13:46right now. It's reared its head just
- 2:13:49recently more than it has all season.
- 2:13:52I couldn't tell you the answer. One of the things I will say is
- 2:13:56we've been saying it for the last five years about this team.
- 2:13:59They are the worst fundamental team that I've ever seen.
- 2:14:05And I'm not talking just fielding, but also running the
- 2:14:08bases, knowing how to play the game.
- 2:14:12It's just they've gone so Saber metric that it's it's these guys
- 2:14:18just don't know how to play the game anymore.
- 2:14:21So again, who gets the bulk of the the responsibility for that?
- 2:14:24They were debating on Monday whether it should be an Aaron
- 2:14:26Boone thing. Is it a prospect prospect
- 2:14:28development thing? I know the Yankees been
- 2:14:30criticized for that in the past, too.
- 2:14:31Brian Cashman criticizing the analytics department.
- 2:14:33Where do you think the accountability comes from with
- 2:14:35that? I think Jabba can speak to that.
- 2:14:39I mean, Jabba was there when all this shit started, you know, and
- 2:14:42when they when they had all these new ideas and everything
- 2:14:45else happening and you know, the bottom line, by the way, hey,
- 2:14:48Jabba, what's going on? But you know, for me, it starts
- 2:14:55in the minor leagues. And over the last five years,
- 2:15:00from what I've been told is there's one minor league coach,
- 2:15:06Shelley Duncan, who has any Major League experience in the
- 2:15:11entire minor league organization.
- 2:15:13That wasn't like it when we were playing.
- 2:15:15You know what, when I was playing, I had Clete Boyer, Ron
- 2:15:19Guidry, Hoyt Wilhelm, I mean Frank Howard.
- 2:15:23You had some names that really taught you.
- 2:15:25Buck Showalter was, even though he wasn't a big leaguer, he was
- 2:15:29a lifetime Yankee minor league guy stuck behind Don Mattingly.
- 2:15:34And he taught us what it meant to be, but also taught us how to
- 2:15:38play the game. And unfortunately, I think what
- 2:15:41you're seeing is you're seeing all these young kids coming up
- 2:15:45that just don't know how to play the game anymore.
- 2:15:49I I think. It's a nail on the head too, I
- 2:15:51think. It's just not, not.
- 2:15:54How to play? The game, but knowing how to
- 2:15:56play it and like yeah, now everybody looks at launching and
- 2:15:59looks the other stuff, but you bring up a great point of of
- 2:16:01having the knoweth all to like as if words fundamentally sound
- 2:16:06like yes, it's not sexy, but you know, runner on 2nd no outs.
- 2:16:10I don't care if you flap one over here to the right side.
- 2:16:14You do your job. It doesn't look sexy but no the
- 2:16:16game have some feel and that's that's.
- 2:16:19The thing? Where it's like you're looking
- 2:16:20at all these numbers and that's like, you know, when Joe came
- 2:16:23in, he had Joe's book and it was all the analytical stuff and all
- 2:16:26these other things. It's like.
- 2:16:27You got to. Watch the product.
- 2:16:29I mean, you got to watch in the flow and, and how the game is
- 2:16:33going. And I just, I don't think
- 2:16:35there's enough of that anymore. And I think it all starts in the
- 2:16:38minor leagues because now they're all taught like, OK,
- 2:16:41what, what is your horizontal and vertical like drop?
- 2:16:44What's your spin rate? It's like, I don't care if I'm
- 2:16:47getting outs. Do I really need to worry about
- 2:16:50anything else like at the end of the day?
- 2:16:53If I could. Now, would could Jamie Moyer
- 2:16:56play right now? Well, according to the favorite
- 2:17:00metric people know, I say yes, 100.
- 2:17:03Percent right? Yeah, like that.
- 2:17:05That are literally would we have the Dustin Pedroias would we
- 2:17:09have? I.
- 2:17:11Mean there's so many we can name where that's like it doesn't
- 2:17:14stand off at you because they don't have spin rates, they
- 2:17:17don't have this. But you know what?
- 2:17:19They're grinders. They know how to play the game.
- 2:17:21They lay bunts down, they get runners over.
- 2:17:23They make routine plays like and it's just it's what job you
- 2:17:27played. You played with Derek Jeter.
- 2:17:28I mean, Jeter didn't. You didn't have to tell Derek
- 2:17:32Jeter in a late in the game. If there's a man on 2nd with
- 2:17:35less than, you know, with nobody out, guess what?
- 2:17:39He's going to bunt for a base hit.
- 2:17:41He's still trying to get a hit, but he's still butting for a
- 2:17:44base hit to get the runner over late in the game.
- 2:17:47And I mean, listen, I, I, I don't, you hear a bunch of
- 2:17:52stuff. I'm at the stadium every night.
- 2:17:54I don't, I don't interact with the players at all.
- 2:17:57They don't let us do that anymore.
- 2:17:59Steinbrenner would be the first one to walk you into the locker
- 2:18:01room and say go talk to so and so right now, you if I don't,
- 2:18:06it's not just me. Any former Yankee, unless you're
- 2:18:09the Derek Jeter's or the Mariano's or the CC, they're not
- 2:18:13going to let you anywhere near that clubhouse for these kids to
- 2:18:18learn something because they don't want to hear.
- 2:18:20Well, this is what we would do. This is how we played.
- 2:18:24This is how we did it. And guess what?
- 2:18:26That's the last time the Yankees won championships.
- 2:18:29You know, it's, it's, it's one of those things that, you know,
- 2:18:33Anthony Volpe all winter long, I was down in Tampa for the
- 2:18:38fantasy camps in, in November and January and he was working
- 2:18:42out at the complex and he was working.
- 2:18:44I hit the ball the other way and he was doing all these things.
- 2:18:46He was going to improve. He starts the season off, he's
- 2:18:50on fire. He's hitting the ball all over
- 2:18:52the place. From what I was told, again, I
- 2:18:56don't know this, I'm not saying I know this for sure, but from
- 2:19:00what I was told was that there was a game, there was a runner
- 2:19:04on 2nd, nobody out. He hit a ground ball to the
- 2:19:07right side of the infield, moved the runner over, and he was
- 2:19:10chastised by this sabermetric people saying, what are you
- 2:19:14doing? You're supposed to be hitting
- 2:19:16home runs in that situation. And all of a sudden, he started
- 2:19:20going back to this home run swing, and his average went from
- 2:19:24270 to 210 now. And he can't find himself again.
- 2:19:29And it's now carrying it over into the infield to where before
- 2:19:34when his defense was so good, both sides of his game right
- 2:19:37now. And I think it's more, I think
- 2:19:39it's more mental than anything else we are talking.
- 2:19:42To 11 year MLB catcher Jim Lawrence.
- 2:19:45He played for the Yankees for a very long time, played from 1990
- 2:19:49to 2000, including nine years with the Yankees.
- 2:19:51It's incredible to see this guy's career.
- 2:19:54I remember him in 95. I remember him all those years,
- 2:19:58especially when the Yankees were starting that dominant run all
- 2:20:03the way in the 90s, which they were to me.
- 2:20:06As good A-Team built in the 90s as any Yankee team.
- 2:20:10When you compare some of the great Yankee teams, the Mickey
- 2:20:12Mantels, the Roger Maris's, the DiMaggio teams, even the Babe
- 2:20:16Ruth teams, I think the 90 Yankees are definitely
- 2:20:18comparable to all those teams. You know, Jimmy, we, we look at
- 2:20:22obviously what Aaron Judge is doing right now, it's, it's
- 2:20:25unbelievable. It's sensational.
- 2:20:27Watching a guy that came into the league at 24 years old,
- 2:20:31nobody realized how special he was except the Yankees.
- 2:20:35And then he became A5 tool player.
- 2:20:38He's played out of position. Last year, the first error he
- 2:20:40even had was in the World Series, which was a big one.
- 2:20:43And then you look what type of hitter he's become.
- 2:20:47He went from a power hitter and considered not a batting average
- 2:20:51hitter to a batting average hitter, a career 300 hitter with
- 2:20:55the power and the quick the quickest to 350 home runs.
- 2:21:00When you look at Aaron Judge and you look at the great Yankees,
- 2:21:02when you're when he's done, and I know he has a lot more based
- 2:21:05is supposed to go. Is he going to be compared to
- 2:21:08the Mickey Mantle's, the Joe Dimaggio's, the Babe roots or is
- 2:21:11it going to be compared to the Derek Cheaters, the Mariano
- 2:21:14Rivera's of the world? Where would you consider Aaron
- 2:21:18Judge and what does he have to do to be considered Babe Ruth,
- 2:21:22Joe DiMaggio or Mickey Mantle? The only way you get the tally
- 2:21:27of a Yankee legend, he's going to be a legend because of the
- 2:21:32numbers that he puts up in the book in the during the season.
- 2:21:35But Job will tell you, you don't win in the postseason.
- 2:21:39They don't remember you. It's been probably the biggest
- 2:21:43Achilles heel for Don Mattingly and the Hall of Fame because
- 2:21:47Donnie never got to the World Series, never won a World
- 2:21:50Series. Aaron Judge, if he does not win
- 2:21:54a championship, I don't care how great.
- 2:21:58New York will never consider him that that in on that level.
- 2:22:04And I think that's it. I think that's like his Achilles
- 2:22:07heel right now has been the postseason.
- 2:22:10And until he can get past that. Jabba, you played with him a
- 2:22:16rod. How many years was everybody
- 2:22:19called a rod the biggest choke artist in the postseason?
- 2:22:22And then all of a sudden 2009, he has a good postseason and all
- 2:22:27of a sudden now he's he's always still a rod.
- 2:22:30He's a rod, you know? Yeah.
- 2:22:32It just takes 1. Year doesn't matter.
- 2:22:34Exactly. Yeah, it just.
- 2:22:35Takes one and once you get that off your back it's it I guess
- 2:22:40you can take a deep breath. I mean, obviously for those
- 2:22:42other guys, they've they've obviously had more of them and
- 2:22:45you know how that feels. And it's just, you know, if if
- 2:22:48you don't get there, will he go? Will he be remembered as a great
- 2:22:51Yankee? Yes, but to be considered a
- 2:22:54legend and to be like the names that you mentioned, Ariel, if
- 2:22:57you don't win it, just like we remember names like Jerry
- 2:23:00Hairston, who had a big stolen base force in O9, Damacio Marte,
- 2:23:04who wasn't who should have been the MVPI mean he didn't give up
- 2:23:07a hit in the playoffs. And like guys like you remember
- 2:23:11because they won Phil Cokes of the world, like I mean, Alfredo
- 2:23:15Osevis, names you would never remember, but it's because they
- 2:23:19won and they're forever be, you know, remembered in that.
- 2:23:22So will he go down as one one of the greats?
- 2:23:25Because I think he's got a good 5-6.
- 2:23:28Good years. In him how long we'll be able to
- 2:23:30play the outfield for that that's to be seen.
- 2:23:33But if you don't win it it's it definitely changes the moniker
- 2:23:37of what stature you're on. Will what if he if he doesn't
- 2:23:41win is he going in Monument park?
- 2:23:43Hell no. Well, that's one of the reasons
- 2:23:46I'm on your show tonight. Listen, I hit a big home run in
- 2:23:491995, Walk off against Seattle, second game of the playoffs.
- 2:23:53We went up two games and none. It was Don Maddow in his first
- 2:23:56time in the postseason. We we thought to win that series
- 2:23:59and last, by the way, exactly. And, and go on.
- 2:24:03And we end up losing the series and that home run just became a
- 2:24:07footnote. And then 96, I hit that home run
- 2:24:11and it just tied the game up, but it swung the momentum and we
- 2:24:15end up winning. And that home run became so big
- 2:24:19because we won. And that was the difference
- 2:24:23because we won. Aaron Boone would have the
- 2:24:26greatest home run in all of Yankee history had the Yankees
- 2:24:30won the 2003 World Series. But they didn't.
- 2:24:35So it's still a great home run, but it's not remembered if, if
- 2:24:40you remember, Andy Chavez for the Mets made a tremendous
- 2:24:43catch, which would have been gone down and they didn't win.
- 2:24:47So it's just another great catch in World Series.
- 2:24:49You know history that you have to win, and I think that's the
- 2:24:53whole thing. I think Aaron Judge, in order to
- 2:24:55be remembered as a great Yankee, not just a great player, but a
- 2:25:01great Yankee, you have to win a couple championships.
- 2:25:04So I want to. Go to a guy that's been a kind
- 2:25:06of a polarizing topic on our show.
- 2:25:08Errol doesn't like him, Jabba likes him.
- 2:25:09Jazz Chisholm, He's put up good numbers at the plate, but he
- 2:25:12said some some crazy antics as well.
- 2:25:14Where do you stand on the Jazz Chisholm experiment so far for
- 2:25:16the Yankees? You know what?
- 2:25:20It's so funny because I, I listen to people all the time.
- 2:25:24I'm one of those guys that says, OK, you know what?
- 2:25:27I'm old school. I don't like it.
- 2:25:30But guess what? I don't play in this era.
- 2:25:33And for some reason this entire era wants all this stuff.
- 2:25:40They like the pitch clock, which I would hate Jabba.
- 2:25:44He would hate the pitch clock. Yeah, I.
- 2:25:47I don't like like the disengagements of like being
- 2:25:50able to hold well and it sucks too, because that takes away me
- 2:25:53playing the chess game of holding and holding and holding
- 2:25:56and OK, now I got to step off and now it's already.
- 2:25:59Hard. Enough to pitch, but now I got
- 2:26:01to think, OK, did I disengage once or twice?
- 2:26:03Did I pick over? Did I step off?
- 2:26:05And so it's just. I.
- 2:26:08The time wise it wouldn't bother me because I'd like to work
- 2:26:10quick anyways. But as far as like playing the
- 2:26:13game of on the mound, holding runners, looking and now in the
- 2:26:16back of your mind, you got to look out of the corner of your
- 2:26:18eye and be like, oh, I better get rid of this.
- 2:26:20I mean a great pitch at 32 and you you end up walking the guy
- 2:26:23on a pitch clock. No, I'd be pissed.
- 2:26:25Yeah, so. Yeah, so my point is, yes, is,
- 2:26:28is is Jazz Chisholm my cup of tea.
- 2:26:30Well, he's wearing #13 so I do like that, OK.
- 2:26:35But no, it it's, he's not your traditional type of Yankee
- 2:26:40player. But there isn't those.
- 2:26:42We got beards now. I mean, Jabba, would you have
- 2:26:45not loved to have a beard as a Yankee?
- 2:26:47Yeah, I mean. Obviously it wouldn't be this
- 2:26:49big, but. But yeah, I.
- 2:26:52Mean, I just necessarily not, not so much, but it's just like
- 2:26:56everyday like being told and scolded like I'm a kid, like I'm
- 2:27:01a grown man. Like I'll keep it professional,
- 2:27:04but like getting kicked out of the dugout and like getting told
- 2:27:08as you. I was like, we don't start for
- 2:27:10another 3 hours. Like I'm just trying to get my
- 2:27:12stuff ready. I can shave in 5 minutes.
- 2:27:14Like I can be ready. So yeah.
- 2:27:17That's. I mean, obviously keep it neat
- 2:27:19and tight and whatever, but it's.
- 2:27:22It's. It's.
- 2:27:22Different and I, I, it's changed.
- 2:27:24The game has changed in so many ways.
- 2:27:26I hate the analytical part of it.
- 2:27:28I think there is some part of the analyticals that are OK.
- 2:27:32But there's not. Enough baseball people in it,
- 2:27:34it's a good. Tool, Yeah.
- 2:27:36Yeah, but it's not the crutch exactly.
- 2:27:39And it doesn't, it doesn't tell me, you know what what, what,
- 2:27:43what the guy has in his heart, the fight that a guy has, what's
- 2:27:47he going to do in in big situations?
- 2:27:49But, but going back to Jazz Chisholm, listen, he's like I
- 2:27:53said, he's a different cup of tea.
- 2:27:55He's very talented. He's got a lot of talent.
- 2:28:01He fits into the locker room pretty good.
- 2:28:03Most of the guys that I know of that they've talked about, they
- 2:28:07they've kind of accepted everything.
- 2:28:09But if you're not winning, it's an issue.
- 2:28:14You know what? I'm winning.
- 2:28:17Jim, you know what I call it? I call it the Jism Express.
- 2:28:20That's what I call it because hop on the Jism Express and I
- 2:28:24call him jazz jism because I don't even give him the
- 2:28:27compliment and giving him his last name because the guy, all
- 2:28:30he does is yap, dance around, prances around after the fact
- 2:28:33wearing his big glaring platinum freaking chain.
- 2:28:38And and he hasn't won nothing. He hasn't done anything.
- 2:28:41And for the Yankee fans to sit there and think, oh, this guy
- 2:28:45brings, you know, conversation and this guy brings personality.
- 2:28:48What personality is he bringing? A personality that you're going
- 2:28:52to want to kill every time he opens his mouth and throw the
- 2:28:54team under the bus? He came out and said, we're
- 2:28:56still the best team in the league when we were playing as
- 2:28:59bad as we were for three weeks straight.
- 2:29:02And you and then you have Aaron Boone.
- 2:29:03And I, I stick up for Aaron Boone because I think people
- 2:29:07blame Aaron Boone for all this crap.
- 2:29:09Aaron Boone is not the one that's getting into the box.
- 2:29:12Aaron Boone is not throwing the ball like these pitchers.
- 2:29:14These guys got to go out there. They're getting paid money,
- 2:29:17getting paid a lot of money. Go out there and play your
- 2:29:19GameStop bitching and moaning. Well, the analytics told me to
- 2:29:22do this and the analytics tell me to do that.
- 2:29:24I'm so tired of hearing you got to go.
- 2:29:27You got to go even further. Aaron Boone is not making the
- 2:29:30lineup. Aaron Boone is not making the
- 2:29:33switches. Aaron Boone is there to babysit
- 2:29:37and to take orders from upstairs.
- 2:29:39Yeah, period. Yankee fans don't know that.
- 2:29:42They don't know that, yeah. And it's No, they don't.
- 2:29:45Want to believe it? Exactly, exactly.
- 2:29:48You know, it's a different, it's it's just a different mindset
- 2:29:53from like when Jabba and I were playing, you know what, we liked
- 2:29:57our manager, but there was a certain part that we didn't mess
- 2:30:02around with our manager. We respected him to a point
- 2:30:05where if he said something to us, he wasn't trying to be our
- 2:30:10friend. He was hey, you're here.
- 2:30:14I'm your manager. Listen up.
- 2:30:16Straighten this up. Straighten that up.
- 2:30:18Fix this, fix that. Not these are savages.
- 2:30:22These guys are savages. I mean, that's nice, that's
- 2:30:25great, and it makes you feel good.
- 2:30:28But listen, that's that's not the type of manager that we had
- 2:30:32that was. That was Girardi's hardest
- 2:30:34thing. Like when he first came over
- 2:30:36after after Tory was like trying to find that balance between
- 2:30:40shoot, I didn't I'm not that far removed, you know, from from it
- 2:30:44and just being able to and obviously in 2008 when he took
- 2:30:48over was the last year the old stadium.
- 2:30:49We didn't make the playoffs. And so.
- 2:30:52He wasn't obviously off to a great start.
- 2:30:54Then we end up winning the next year.
- 2:30:56But yeah, it's you can always like back then, the dynamic of
- 2:31:00you always, if you walk by him, you always pays your respect.
- 2:31:02You didn't walk by your manager. Never.
- 2:31:05And Mr. T would always be sitting right there, as Derek
- 2:31:07always called him, and he'd. Be sitting there doing.
- 2:31:10His thing and you always said hi, always said hi to him in the
- 2:31:15in the clubhouse. But Jimmy, you know, if, if, if
- 2:31:17Joe was doing one thing, you didn't bother him if, if those
- 2:31:19sheets were on on the desk. All right, I'll catch you in
- 2:31:22about 10. I'll come back.
- 2:31:24Later and I think. That I think that's the
- 2:31:27difference. I think, you know, you know,
- 2:31:31when we had again, look at the Major League coaching roster,
- 2:31:36there's not too many guys besides Brad Osmus, you know,
- 2:31:41with a lot of experience. I think.
- 2:31:43I think Harkey's still in the bullpen.
- 2:31:45Yeah. And then?
- 2:31:45Assistant pitching coach Preston Claiborne had a little bit of
- 2:31:48time, yeah. So, you know, we we had guys
- 2:31:52that had championship with the Yankees, Willie Randolph, you
- 2:31:55know, Don Zimmer, you know, you know, Mel Stoudemire, guys that
- 2:32:00knew what it was like to play in New York.
- 2:32:03So when you were struggling, you had someone, dude, what happened
- 2:32:07to you when you played in New York and you were and you sucked
- 2:32:10and they were all over you. How did you get out of it?
- 2:32:12You know, you had that ability to have coaches that could help
- 2:32:15you through that. I don't think they have that
- 2:32:18now. And Joe?
- 2:32:18Girardi, are they? Are they allowed to do it?
- 2:32:22Right. I remember when Joe Girardi was
- 2:32:24picked to be the next manager for the New York Yankees, and
- 2:32:27Donnie Baseball was fighting for that job too, and a lot of the
- 2:32:30Yankee fans wanted Don Mattingly to take over for the Yankees,
- 2:32:34not Joe Girardi. And it was obviously Brian
- 2:32:37Cashman's decision. I'm going the Girardi route now.
- 2:32:41I've heard stories and you know more than anybody I've heard
- 2:32:44stories about Girardi and Posada and there were stories that they
- 2:32:48didn't like each other. Girardi never liked Posada and
- 2:32:51Posada was Derek Jeter's best friend or one of him.
- 2:32:54Him and Jared Williams was his closest friends on the team.
- 2:32:57You were around both guys. So is it true Girardi and Posada
- 2:33:02didn't like each other? And if it is true, why did they
- 2:33:06not like each other? In all honesty, it depends on
- 2:33:10what you ask them. I mean, if you would have asked
- 2:33:11them during the playing days, Girardi was considered a mentor.
- 2:33:17And I can I can pull back articles from back in those days
- 2:33:21saying that Joe Girardi was there to mentor Jorge Posada.
- 2:33:25That's why he came back in 97 and 98, you know, or 97 and 98.
- 2:33:29Yeah. And but as time went on, the
- 2:33:35story changed a little bit that, oh, well, they didn't like each
- 2:33:38other. They didn't get along.
- 2:33:40And I think it was more as a manager than it was when they
- 2:33:44were teammates. It's it's.
- 2:33:46Crazy because I as a Yankee fan heard so many different stories.
- 2:33:51Now I obviously I didn't have my inside scoop like you guys did.
- 2:33:54You both played for the Yankees. You guys were close to the
- 2:33:56Steinbrenner. So I didn't know them like that.
- 2:33:59But I was a die hard Yankee fan. I grew up with Don Mattingly
- 2:34:01fan. He was my favorite player and I,
- 2:34:03I Donnie, unfortunately everywhere he's gone, even as a
- 2:34:07a manager, never won a championship, even out a guy as
- 2:34:10a bench manager never won with the Yankees, with Joe Torre.
- 2:34:14So Don Manley just had really, really bad luck when Joe Girardi
- 2:34:17really was put in the position the way he was.
- 2:34:21Where after they picked Joe Girardi, what did they do that
- 2:34:24season? Well, they just went with CC
- 2:34:26Sabathia, AJ Burnett and Mark to share it in 2009 and they win a
- 2:34:32championship in the first inaugural season at the new
- 2:34:35stadium. I'm not surprised that happened.
- 2:34:38Do they do the same if Don Mattingly was there?
- 2:34:40Because I've heard stories, George Steinbrenner was very
- 2:34:43close with Donnie, but Hal and Hank did not like Donnie.
- 2:34:47So there was some stories coming out that way.
- 2:34:50And that's why they decided to go with Joe.
- 2:34:52I don't know if that to be true either, but I've, I've, I've
- 2:34:56seen Don Mattingly 3 years, three times in in in an amount
- 2:34:59of time. And I had I've had questions to
- 2:35:02ask him and I said, Don, you're you're my favorite player
- 2:35:04growing up. And he smiled.
- 2:35:05He's I appreciate it. And I said, what what was the
- 2:35:08what was the connection you had with the Steinbrenner?
- 2:35:11As he says, the boss was always the boss always showed me
- 2:35:14respect, always loved me as a player and always put me first
- 2:35:20after the team. He said, he said.
- 2:35:22But there was something about Hal and and Hank, they they were
- 2:35:26brought up differently and they looked at me as a different
- 2:35:29player, a replaceable player. That's what Don Mattingly told
- 2:35:33me. And but he didn't say it in a
- 2:35:35way where, oh, he they hated me. He just said it in a
- 2:35:38professional way that we just didn't see eye to eye with the
- 2:35:42game of baseball. And maybe that's why he retired.
- 2:35:45I think Donnie could have played another year.
- 2:35:47I really do. I think he could have played in
- 2:35:4896. Yeah, but what a lot.
- 2:35:50Of people didn't see back then was Donnie we Donnie had to get
- 2:35:54up at 10:00 in the morning. He had to do a bunch of
- 2:35:56different exercises and stretches and just to be able to
- 2:36:00get out of bed, be able to walk down and have lunch.
- 2:36:03I mean, it really was a point where his day was, it was a 14
- 2:36:08hour day for him. And I think that was what that
- 2:36:11was what was weighing on him more than anything.
- 2:36:15It, you know, would he have liked to continue?
- 2:36:20I'm sure. But I, I do think that that the
- 2:36:23injury was, it was, was the most the main reason why he hung it
- 2:36:27up, do you think? Donnie, for the five years that
- 2:36:30Don Manly was at the top level of the game, could you compare
- 2:36:34anybody over the last 40 years that had numbers like Don Manly
- 2:36:39in a five year stint except Aaron Judge?
- 2:36:41I mean, Aaron Judge would be the closest.
- 2:36:43I mean, Mike Trout, Yeah, that's it.
- 2:36:48Mike Trout, yeah. That's.
- 2:36:49Crazy, yeah. Trout.
- 2:36:51Trout would be 1, but see, and I would actually put Mike Trout in
- 2:36:55a very similar category to Don Mattingly.
- 2:36:57Yeah, but but the difference is playoff.
- 2:37:01Wise too, yes. Exactly.
- 2:37:04Not his fault the handles are. Dysfunctional.
- 2:37:07And his injury has really what's been decimated his last four or
- 2:37:12five years. And it's you got to be
- 2:37:14remembered as the guy that had 30 and 100 and, you know, 40 and
- 2:37:20108 or 8 or seven or eight years or is he going to be remembered?
- 2:37:25The guy who's hitting 2:20 and has 17 bombs?
- 2:37:29You know, it's it's really kind of, you know, a difficult
- 2:37:35situation. And again, it goes back to not
- 2:37:39winning a championship, not even being in the playoffs, much
- 2:37:42less. And I think it's a tough choice.
- 2:37:45I think it's a it's got to be a tough choice for Trout every
- 2:37:48year to say, OK, I'm going back to the Angels, Jimmy.
- 2:37:52You look at Jabba and I've asked Jabba who is who was his
- 2:37:55favorite player to work with and play with, and it was CC
- 2:37:59Sabathia, OK, He always talks about CC, that he's the nicest
- 2:38:02guy, one of the best teammates he's ever played with.
- 2:38:05He's had a lot of good ones. Jabba you would agree with, but
- 2:38:08CC was a guy that really stood out to you.
- 2:38:10Was there a particular player that you played with?
- 2:38:14That stuck. Out to you more than the other
- 2:38:16and and why do you say that player over maybe the other
- 2:38:21players that people would have thought that you would have
- 2:38:23picked Don Mattingly? Donnie was the greatest team
- 2:38:25that I ever played with, not only from the standpoint of the
- 2:38:28good all around person and a good My first year in the big
- 2:38:33leagues, my very first day at Yankee Stadium, I got caught up
- 2:38:37on the road for three games in Baltimore.
- 2:38:40Then we came home and our first series was against the Red Sox
- 2:38:44in Yankee Stadium. And I come walking in the
- 2:38:47stadium. I'm taking it all in.
- 2:38:49I'm just, I'm, I'm literally on the phone with my dad in the
- 2:38:52locker room and going, Dad, I fucking made it.
- 2:38:55I'm here at Yankee Stadium. I, you know, I, I, you know, my
- 2:39:00locker is next to Don Mattingly. This is the greatest day of my
- 2:39:03life. And instead of my dad going,
- 2:39:05son, I'm very proud of you because my dad was a cross
- 2:39:09between Woody Hayes and Bobby Knight, hardcore, hardcore.
- 2:39:15And he said to me, son, that is great, but what are you going to
- 2:39:19do to stay there? That was his comment.
- 2:39:23So I literally get off the phone.
- 2:39:25I'm a little disappointed that he didn't say, I'm proud of you,
- 2:39:27son. Congratulations.
- 2:39:29All right. I sit down on my my chair and I
- 2:39:32look over and Donnie comes walking in and he goes, hey,
- 2:39:35kid. He goes pretty good, pretty good
- 2:39:38couple games in Baltimore. You see.
- 2:39:41I see you're next to me. Just remember one thing, you
- 2:39:45don't last very long here unless you ask questions.
- 2:39:49Where was where was your locker at?
- 2:39:51Literally when? You first walked in to the left.
- 2:39:53Or. The right.
- 2:39:54Yeah, Donnie. Had it as soon as you walked, he
- 2:39:56had. He had the big.
- 2:39:57One in the corner in the corner. Yeah, yeah, they.
- 2:40:00Stuck me next to Stevie and Gino.
- 2:40:02Oh geez. Yeah.
- 2:40:06I was right by the mailboxes. I'm like, hey.
- 2:40:08I didn't. Care.
- 2:40:09I got to look at Thurman's locker every day.
- 2:40:12Exactly. Exactly.
- 2:40:14Yeah, So. And one of the things great
- 2:40:17about Donnie, when Donnie was hurt, I was taking his position
- 2:40:21at first base, but yet he was out there every day trying to
- 2:40:25help me. How to hold a runner on, how to
- 2:40:27do something, how to how to give myself a better opportunity to
- 2:40:31be good that day to help our team win.
- 2:40:34You didn't find that in a superstar and a guy that was as
- 2:40:37big as Don Manley was during those days.
- 2:40:39And I just found that unbelievable.
- 2:40:42And like I said, the first time anybody, anybody asked me, who's
- 2:40:46your favorite teammate? I don't even hesitate.
- 2:40:48It's Don Maddow. Do you talk?
- 2:40:49To him still. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 2:40:52Every time. Every time Toronto comes in, I
- 2:40:55go see him. I I text him on his birthday
- 2:40:59every year. Yeah, we we still, we still stay
- 2:41:02in touch. By the way, Jabba, I, I love
- 2:41:05when you're posting up in the private chat and he says Boone
- 2:41:09is at the press conference right now saying that the Yankees are
- 2:41:11a good defensive team. So bad.
- 2:41:15So bad, Boone. What are you watching man?
- 2:41:19I love you dude. I stick up for our boot all the
- 2:41:22time. That you that would get you
- 2:41:24fired. If I was the GM of the team I'd
- 2:41:26be like dude are we watching the same team?
- 2:41:28This team is absolutely putrid defensively.
- 2:41:32Well, you know, here's the situation.
- 2:41:35The. Manager before him criticized
- 2:41:38Gary Sanchez and lost his job. If you're really if you really
- 2:41:43want to get down to it, Joe Girardi was let go because of
- 2:41:49what he was saying about Gary Sanchez and at that time, Gary
- 2:41:52Sanchez. Gary Sanchez.
- 2:41:55That's what they called him, the Sanchez.
- 2:41:58And by the way, I was in Bermuda and I was going down the crystal
- 2:42:02tour and Gary Sanchez's niece was hanging out with me and my
- 2:42:08girlfriend and she's like, you know, Gary Sanchez is.
- 2:42:11And I said, yeah, he was a Yankee catcher.
- 2:42:13Yeah, that's my that that's like my my uncle or whatever she
- 2:42:16said. My I, I see him all the time.
- 2:42:18I'm always during the summer. I'm always with Gary.
- 2:42:21And I'm like, if like, that's pretty funny.
- 2:42:23And now you're bringing up Gary Sand.
- 2:42:25It popped in my head. So it it Sanchez Chaz was a guy
- 2:42:29that had tremendous talent. I remember when he came up and
- 2:42:31he was hitting the hell out of a ball.
- 2:42:33I don't know what happened to him.
- 2:42:35He mentally just it got into his head.
- 2:42:37He went to the Twins. He actually started hitting for
- 2:42:39the Twins. And then he he finished up,
- 2:42:43yeah, he finished up with the Mets.
- 2:42:45And then he went to the. Padres actually was pretty good
- 2:42:47that wasn't he with. The Mets, too, he was with the.
- 2:42:49Mets for like a month or so, then he went to the Padres and
- 2:42:51actually played well in that season with them, not the
- 2:42:54Padres. The Padre stint brought him
- 2:42:57back. Yeah, not.
- 2:42:58Yankees good, but he was at least playing serviceable enough
- 2:43:00where he could have kept playing.
- 2:43:01But then I think they let him go at the end of the year, you
- 2:43:03know? Jimmy, before we let you go,
- 2:43:05because I know you're a busy guy and we love when you come on and
- 2:43:08we'll definitely get you on before the season is over.
- 2:43:11Because I'd love to hear if the Yankees make the playoffs, which
- 2:43:14they should. I, I can't see them choking and
- 2:43:17not making the playoffs. But hey, it is the Yankees.
- 2:43:19They do have a good. Defensive team apparently as.
- 2:43:21Boone was saying and then Chisholm saying Jazz, Chisholm
- 2:43:25coming out and saying, oh, yeah, we're still the best team in the
- 2:43:27league. We were 13 and 22 in the month
- 2:43:31of June. So yeah, that great
- 2:43:33congratulations to Jazz. He knows what he's talking
- 2:43:35about. And it only had three home runs
- 2:43:37in that Home Run Derby. What a disgrace.
- 2:43:40That was embarrassing. That was a little embarrassing.
- 2:43:42That was embarrassing. How do you go out there and say,
- 2:43:45oh, I have 17 home runs, I could win this thing.
- 2:43:48And the guy had three home runs and then he made, he did foul
- 2:43:51tip. But the worst, the worst was
- 2:43:53Jimmy, if you remember. Swish.
- 2:43:55Swinging and missing, yes. I do remember that, yes.
- 2:43:59That's got to be the worst. I, I, but at least Nick and
- 2:44:03I'll, I'll say this about Swisher.
- 2:44:05When Swish was in the locker room, he knew how to like bring
- 2:44:09out the guys. I've heard so many stories about
- 2:44:11Nick Swan. I don't know him personally, but
- 2:44:13I'm sure you guys know him. Everything I've heard about
- 2:44:15Nick, he was the best teammate. He was cool collective in the
- 2:44:18he's always blasting his music in the locker room.
- 2:44:21Everybody was listening to the Metallica and all the crazy crap
- 2:44:24that he was playing all that Hard Rock.
- 2:44:26When I hear about Jism, he looks like a rapper.
- 2:44:29He looks like a Flavor Flav when he's standing there.
- 2:44:32I mean, he he just the the the way he presents himself.
- 2:44:38I just don't like it. I don't like the way he stands
- 2:44:40there like he's 11 something. He's done something for Yankees
- 2:44:44and he's really done nothing. And he couldn't cut it over
- 2:44:48there with the Marlins and he had to be traded.
- 2:44:50So let let's let's get down and dirty with that jizzy.
- 2:44:53So I would love to get jism on the show because I'm not going
- 2:44:56to sit here and beat around the Bush.
- 2:44:58I'll let him have it and see how he answers it.
- 2:45:00And if he doesn't like it, well, that just shows you how big of a
- 2:45:03bitch he is. Anyways, So that's the facts.
- 2:45:06I'm not going to sit here and beat around it.
- 2:45:07But John, John, but you know me. You've been working with me for
- 2:45:10a year now. I don't sit here when I
- 2:45:12interview somebody and say, Oh my God, it's jazz jizz.
- 2:45:16Let me kiss you. This, you know, I just, I'll
- 2:45:20tell you if you don't like it. Well, if that does happen, I'm
- 2:45:22going to have a big bowl of popcorn just sitting there
- 2:45:24going. There you go.
- 2:45:26That's all. That's all.
- 2:45:27That's all. That's all.
- 2:45:29I'm in it for what you probably usually.
- 2:45:32No. You have a, you know, a bag full
- 2:45:34of Tootsie rolls, which you've been eating all night tonight.
- 2:45:36Fruity, fruity fruits, whatever. But when you get it, when you
- 2:45:39get into a good back and forth, Yeah.
- 2:45:41It's popcorn time. Yeah.
- 2:45:42Well, I've done it a couple of times on this show.
- 2:45:44Down with the best. Is when you burn out the Dorito
- 2:45:46Taco shells what I mentioned? That's true.
- 2:45:49Too. By the way, I might get some
- 2:45:51Doritos tonight. I have Torito tacos.
- 2:45:53I like that. Anyways, Jimmy, we really
- 2:45:56appreciate the time. Your sensational, keep up the
- 2:45:58good work. Let's get you on a little bit
- 2:46:00sooner than later, but maybe during the playoffs like we did
- 2:46:03last year. Love to know your take and I'm
- 2:46:06sure we'll have a lot of coverage through it.
- 2:46:08But as always. Always available?
- 2:46:11Are you still in? Levy's Box.
- 2:46:13I'm still. Yep, I'm still working up in the
- 2:46:15suites. Yep.
- 2:46:15Yeah, there he is. He's hanging out.
- 2:46:18All right, boys, Hanging out with the Chiclets.
- 2:46:20Thanks, Jimmy. Thank you.
- 2:46:21Thanks for having me. Thanks, Jimmy.
- 2:46:22Thanks, buddy. Jim Lahrenz.
- 2:46:24Fantastic stories. I love the Don Mattingly story.
- 2:46:28I'm a Donnie Baseball fan, so I love it.
- 2:46:31Speedy. Side note, who was it?
- 2:46:34The question I asked you in the private chat, Yeah.
- 2:46:36Brandon. Inch.
- 2:46:38That's. Right.
- 2:46:40I always killed the Yankees too. The by way, Detroit.
- 2:46:42Remember Brandon? I asked.
- 2:46:43Java on the private chat who was the his former team age had zero
- 2:46:47and a home runner. Because I remember watching it
- 2:46:49as a kid. I like I couldn't remember who
- 2:46:50it was he killed. The Yankees all the time.
- 2:46:53All the time. I couldn't stand Brandon Inch,
- 2:46:56but I, I, I remember him when he was on the tigers because he
- 2:47:00always pissed me off every time he went up to the plate and he
- 2:47:02was a good defender too. Yeah, he was he was pretty good.
- 2:47:04So yeah, I, I really liked. I don't know him personally,
- 2:47:08Jabba knew him personally, but I, I, I'm sure he probably was a
- 2:47:11cool doer to chill out with and hang out with.
- 2:47:14But anyways, thank you to Jimmy. We really appreciate the time.
- 2:47:17Let's go to a sports minute. When we come back.
- 2:47:19We've got a call to the pen. We got inside baseball and
- 2:47:22hopefully we might have goodies. Bag of balls it doesn't.
- 2:47:25Look like it. It's still in the 5th inning or
- 2:47:286th inning of his game. So I don't think we have Goody
- 2:47:30tonight. It's an unfortunate.
- 2:47:31Situation, but the Goodwood is playing with his Woody Goody.
- 2:47:35Has no woody, as we all know. It's breaking news.
- 2:47:39I need Brittany also anyways. When we come back a little bit
- 2:47:42more and a lot more in baseball, this is.
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- 2:47:52All right guys, Aaron Fishman here with your sportsman and got
- 2:47:56a few stories before we wrap up baseball coverage tonight.
- 2:48:00New Cowboys wide receiver George Pickens threw some serious shade
- 2:48:04at his former team after the Steelers traded the enigmatic
- 2:48:07star player to Big D. I'm definitely excited to run
- 2:48:12better plays. Pickens told the media and went
- 2:48:15on about the fresh start he has as being a breath of fresh air
- 2:48:19for him. Getting a chance to play next to
- 2:48:21CD Lamb and with quarterback Prescott should give Pickens the
- 2:48:24consistency and space he lacked in Pittsburgh where he was still
- 2:48:28in a very effective player. The problem with Pickens will be
- 2:48:31if the target share between him and Lamb will be enough to keep
- 2:48:34both players happy and if that can return to form after a
- 2:48:37serious hamstring injury. Playing the second-half of this
- 2:48:402024 season, even a diminished act should be an improvement
- 2:48:44upon the likes of Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Pickett, Mason
- 2:48:47Rudolph, and last year's combo of Justin Fields and 36 year old
- 2:48:50Russell Wilson. Whether or not Pickens can stay
- 2:48:52happy, we'll have a lot to do with the success, or lack
- 2:48:56thereof, for the Cowboys this coming season.
- 2:48:59The A blockbuster deal is imminent in the world of sports
- 2:49:03as ESPN is looking prime to buy the NFL Network and Red Zone
- 2:49:08Channel. As reported by Andrew Marsh and
- 2:49:10of The Athletic, ESPN is supposed to acquire both the
- 2:49:12network and Red Zone Channel for at least $2 billion.
- 2:49:16According to a recent valuation of NFL Media, ESPN is planning
- 2:49:20on including them in a package they will be selling that as
- 2:49:23exclusive for streaming content being sold direct to consumer
- 2:49:27for the first time ever for 2999 a month.
- 2:49:30As this is not official, no further details or comment on by
- 2:49:34the NFL and ESPN, but reports state that this has been in the
- 2:49:36work for the greater works for the greater part of the past
- 2:49:39four years. This may radically change the
- 2:49:42way many of us enjoy our sports and anger many of the older
- 2:49:46generations who can't seem to figure out the Internet as if
- 2:49:49it's a Rubik's Cube on steroids. Change is a fast train, and
- 2:49:52where there's this much money on the table, expect this
- 2:49:55locomotive to be traveling at mock speed.
- 2:49:58And finally, current Reds manager and former Cleveland
- 2:50:01Guardians manager and likely future Hall of Famer Terry
- 2:50:03Francona had some stern words today in regards to the
- 2:50:06controversy over the name change of the Cleveland Guardians from
- 2:50:10the Indians back in 2021. President Trump has made it
- 2:50:13known through his post on True Social.
- 2:50:15Social media account that he. Wants both the Washington
- 2:50:17Commanders and Cleveland Guardians to revert back to
- 2:50:19their original names. Francona echoed the sentiments
- 2:50:22of current Guardians President of Baseball Operations Chris
- 2:50:26Antonetti, who responded to the president by saying we
- 2:50:28understand there are different perspectives on the decision we
- 2:50:31made a few years ago. But obviously it's a decision we
- 2:50:33made. We've got the opportunity to
- 2:50:35build a brand as the Guardians over the last four years and are
- 2:50:38excited about the future that's in front of us.
- 2:50:41Francona, for his part, told USA TODAY about owner Paul Dolan.
- 2:50:45I was really proud of him because I don't think it was
- 2:50:47real popular with the segment of probably the older fans that
- 2:50:50kind of, I guess, like Trump. Why can't it just be like it
- 2:50:53used to be? Like I.
- 2:50:54Didn't even care what they made the name in Cleveland.
- 2:50:57I really didn't. I just know how I was in on
- 2:51:00those conversations and we were trying to be respectful and for
- 2:51:04that I gave those guys a lot of credit.
- 2:51:07Politics aside, while for now the commies in Washington have
- 2:51:11yet to say if they are switching their names back to the
- 2:51:13Redskins, it certainly appears that you'll either have to put
- 2:51:16on some old games from before the pandemic or blast Wild Thing
- 2:51:20and put on Major League to watch Ricky Vaughn give them the
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- 2:52:53He says if he wins tonight, he doesn't have to play.
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- 2:55:29Who do you think? I have them more than you do.
- 2:55:33That's as much as the sample as I have.
- 2:55:34I mean, Tommy's not here. He would probably take the
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- 2:55:41Smell. They don't smell.
- 2:55:42So Tommy's not here. All that cheese.
- 2:55:45I. Don't have no context with the
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- 2:55:48Don't I? I The only time they would smell
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- 2:56:21What? What was that job?
- 2:56:22What do you, what do you put your hands up?
- 2:56:23What was that? I can't can't say it on live,
- 2:56:26but I'll tell you in a minute. We call this a call to the pen.
- 2:56:33It's done. I think you can throw a strike
- 2:56:35on this pitch. It's not going to be my.
- 2:56:36John It feels like jello right now.
- 2:56:38Just get it. Over the plate, I want him to
- 2:56:39swing. Last time I did that the guy hit
- 2:56:41one. That hasn't landed yet for a
- 2:56:43call to the pen. All right Speedy, if you could
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- 2:56:53Wonderful. I got a little read off for you
- 2:56:57job but we're going to do it like this and when I'm done I
- 2:56:59would love. For you to.
- 2:57:00Comment because I think you have some great expertise on this
- 2:57:03one. The trade deadline is next
- 2:57:05Tuesday, less than a week away. As a fan of the show, you know
- 2:57:08that I am a die hard fan. And I've always.
- 2:57:12Been dreaming up trades around this time of year for great
- 2:57:14players to come to my like. For example, I want the Yankees
- 2:57:18to get Juliano Suarez and Merrill Kelly from Arizona this
- 2:57:20year. They'd be perfect fixed for
- 2:57:22holes on the roster. They're rentals who are older
- 2:57:25and shouldn't cost top end prospects.
- 2:57:27But The thing is, I never really consider how these types of
- 2:57:30deals from the prognostication by people and the media like I
- 2:57:34am now and fans at home. He tastes families of those that
- 2:57:38are going to be upended by these transactions, both in the majors
- 2:57:42and perhaps more dramatically so for minors.
- 2:57:45Who aren't? Making as much money.
- 2:57:47Luckily for us, we only need to make a call to the pen and get
- 2:57:51the big righty up for some men's side info on what a trade
- 2:57:54deadline feels like as a player at different stages in their
- 2:57:57careers. And how it affects.
- 2:57:59Teams leading up to it and how guys fast or don't after the
- 2:58:04deals. Yeah, it's weird.
- 2:58:06I saw, I saw one in the minor leagues.
- 2:58:09It was. It was for Jose Molina, it's the
- 2:58:12Angels, and it was Jeff Canard. And.
- 2:58:15It was just so weird because. They're like, hey.
- 2:58:18Go get Canard and he was actually warming up to come into
- 2:58:20the game and they had just announced the trade and we're
- 2:58:23in, we're in AA at the time. And so this is my obviously my
- 2:58:28first experience, you know, at the trade deadline.
- 2:58:31And I was like, what? I go, what's going on?
- 2:58:33They're like, oh, he just got traded.
- 2:58:35And I'm like, what do you what do you mean?
- 2:58:36Like we got a game going on? They're like, it doesn't matter.
- 2:58:40And. So they.
- 2:58:40Ran down, got him and then he he came in and then it's like, hey,
- 2:58:45pack up your stuff. You're heading to wherever
- 2:58:49Anaheim's AA was and. It's a.
- 2:58:52Little bit harder in the minor leagues just because you don't
- 2:58:55have all the, I guess the extra stuff where you know they play
- 2:58:59in your trip, they do all that. So, but in the big leagues, the
- 2:59:03craziest one I've ever seen was a three team deal between the
- 2:59:06Rays, Mariners and the Tigers when I was with the Tigers.
- 2:59:10And they were. Training for Austin Jackson.
- 2:59:13And. Drew Smiley.
- 2:59:15And we were. Getting David Price and it was
- 2:59:17it was crazy because. It was.
- 2:59:20Almost like to the deadline. This is when the deadline was a
- 2:59:23little bit longer. It wasn't that 1259 cut off like
- 2:59:26it went into like 6:00 or whatever be so anyways, Austin
- 2:59:31Jackson's playing center. And.
- 2:59:34All of a sudden. He's like.
- 2:59:38It looks like this because we're like telling him to come in and
- 2:59:40we had been inside, like the brass had been back and forth
- 2:59:43and me and Ver like the nosiest people ever.
- 2:59:45So we're like, something's going down.
- 2:59:47So I messaged David and I was like, hey, where you at?
- 2:59:52And he was like. I'm on the golf course and I was
- 2:59:53like, you might want to head back to the trop.
- 2:59:56And he was like, what's up? I go, I don't know for sure, but
- 2:59:59something's going down. And so.
- 3:00:02Literally Dombrowski comes in the dugout and it's like, hey,
- 3:00:07we need to replace Austin Jackson right now.
- 3:00:10And so it's like a 2O count in the middle of like the 5th
- 3:00:12inning and he had to get in. He had like 2 minutes to spare
- 3:00:15before the deadline went in. And you know, it's, it's frantic
- 3:00:19because you don't know what's going on and.
- 3:00:22Then it's. Like hey pack up and you get 2
- 3:00:24days technically to meet the team.
- 3:00:27But. It's basically you pack up, they
- 3:00:28have your itinerary and it's like, hey, get to this city or
- 3:00:31get to where they're at and you can take your extra day if you
- 3:00:34want. But depending on the situation,
- 3:00:36most people don't. I had Ichiro traded in Seattle.
- 3:00:40Literally just walked across from one side to the other.
- 3:00:43That was that was that was interesting.
- 3:00:46That was that was Ichiro's a different, different character.
- 3:00:50Love that man. It was crazy when you get people
- 3:00:53like that, and I was fortunate enough to play with that decky.
- 3:00:55But yeah. So do you, like, fit in right
- 3:00:57away? Ichiro with everybody?
- 3:00:59Yeah. He's the best.
- 3:01:00The best? The best?
- 3:01:03I mean, he's a person that never, he never wore his his
- 3:01:07cleats. More than.
- 3:01:09Once. Wow.
- 3:01:11That's. Interesting and I'll help your.
- 3:01:12Sneaker discuss it from before. Yeah, he would.
- 3:01:15Wear his turfs. But his cleats, he would.
- 3:01:17He would only wear them one time.
- 3:01:19So maybe Errol Ichiro's the, you know, cleats version of you.
- 3:01:23You mean Kobe? Well, I'm saying Ichiro with the
- 3:01:27cleats. Yeah.
- 3:01:28Kobe was the one that, well, you got a lot of sneakers.
- 3:01:30You think? You think?
- 3:01:33I don't know, yeah. Well, I don't have that many
- 3:01:36cleats he's gone through from the amount of sneakers that I've
- 3:01:39had over the years. No way.
- 3:01:40But I mean, he probably went through probably around 56000
- 3:01:45cleats in his career if if that's that to be true, like
- 3:01:49Java saying, I mean, if anybody wore out his cleats, it's the
- 3:01:53guy who had more career hits between, you know, the MLB in
- 3:01:57Japan than Pete Rose, you know, so and the crazy part is I was
- 3:02:00reading like 5 crazy stats about Ichiro just cuz I love him and
- 3:02:04he's awesome. He you.
- 3:02:06Realize he didn't start. He didn't get over 3000 hits
- 3:02:10starting at like 20. He didn't have his first hit
- 3:02:13till he was 27. That's crazy.
- 3:02:16Yeah. And came into the league hitting
- 3:02:17200 hits every year. And so that's.
- 3:02:19So he's he's the oldest at 27 to get to 3000 hits.
- 3:02:25Who's the second oldest? He was 23 years old. 3rd baseman
- 3:02:34Adrian Beltre. George Bratt.
- 3:02:40Yaunt. George Bratt.
- 3:02:41Nope. Nope.
- 3:02:42I don't. Know who is it?
- 3:02:46Wade Boggs. Wade Boggs?
- 3:02:48Yep, of course. Of course, he's also.
- 3:02:50From Omaha Wade, Omaha Guy, Omaha, Omaha.
- 3:02:56So Jabba, you don't have to name any names if you don't want.
- 3:02:59And just to wrap this up, you know, each row is an example of
- 3:03:02a guy who definitely fit in. We there's obviously going to be
- 3:03:05the opposite, right. And what's what happens?
- 3:03:09Kevin, you close? Oh, that was quick.
- 3:03:14That was that What what what the hell was that?
- 3:03:17I mean, that was a trade. It was offseason.
- 3:03:20It wasn't during the year, during during the year those
- 3:03:25that's different because you're usually getting.
- 3:03:29We were always. In a position where we were
- 3:03:31contending, so we were always getting somebody that was
- 3:03:34established so. Everybody.
- 3:03:36Kind of had a mutual when we got David Price.
- 3:03:39So you were getting guys like that where if they were
- 3:03:42established, you weren't getting young guys where they're trying
- 3:03:45to get their feet wet and trying to fit in.
- 3:03:48That's why I've said before why I love what they do in spring
- 3:03:51training with these young kids is invite them to spring
- 3:03:54training for a couple weeks so us as older guys can get to know
- 3:03:58their personalities and so when they come up, they don't feel so
- 3:04:01uncomfortable. So I guess.
- 3:04:02I've. Never been in a.
- 3:04:03Situation like during the trade deadline where we weren't
- 3:04:07getting somebody that was already established where you
- 3:04:09you knew they were, you obviously may not know them
- 3:04:11personally, but you knew like of them and had played against
- 3:04:16them. So mutual respect.
- 3:04:17But yeah, the, the trade one is Eucalis for sure, 100%, but not
- 3:04:21at the trade deadline. Well, we know he hates Kevin
- 3:04:25Eucalus. There's no question that he
- 3:04:26does. But you know, Kevin Eucalus gets
- 3:04:29on base and Moneyball told us that's the most important thing
- 3:04:33in the game. Please, let's move on to the
- 3:04:35next segment. And guys, that's some great
- 3:04:37stuff we get to learn every week.
- 3:04:39Kevin freaking Eucalus. I couldn't stand him as a Red
- 3:04:43Sox in his swing. That weird swing that he's
- 3:04:46grabbing the top of the barrel made no sense.
- 3:04:49His teammates didn't either. He he was one of those guys
- 3:04:52where. It didn't.
- 3:04:55Matter, like it didn't matter if they won or lost.
- 3:04:57Like he'd be pissed if he went over 4, but if they lost and he
- 3:04:59went like 3 for four with like a double in three stakes, he'd be
- 3:05:03like super happy. Like he threw his helmet in the
- 3:05:06dugout one time and smoked Manny and they had to hold Manny back
- 3:05:09because he's like, dude, we're up six to two.
- 3:05:13Like what are you? Doing like, relax.
- 3:05:17Yeah, Well, it sounds like Eucalis.
- 3:05:19I mean, even when he came to the Yankees, he was an ugly SOP and
- 3:05:23all he does, I've heard he only he only played like 10 games
- 3:05:27until he broke his back. Wait, you know what's so funny
- 3:05:30about him is the whole story about Kevin Eucalis is the only
- 3:05:34the only story that I can remember listening to him is oh,
- 3:05:37my brother in law's Tom Brady. I'm married to his his sister.
- 3:05:40Who cares, dude, how I told you that?
- 3:05:42I told you that story about like, our fantasy.
- 3:05:44Yeah, that was the first time you ever on the show.
- 3:05:47Oh my. Gosh, I'm like.
- 3:05:49Is this dude me and CC were like seriously dude I think I made
- 3:05:52this the first time you were on the show of you fighting
- 3:05:57Eucalis. Does a.
- 3:05:59Piece. Of work, Yeah, I'm sure he was.
- 3:06:02That's why I had to add into the into the.
- 3:06:03What's that smell? I'd like to.
- 3:06:05Ask Tom Brady what he thinks about Kevin Euclid.
- 3:06:10It's probably not that good. Anyways, we have one more
- 3:06:13segment before we go to analytics, and we call this
- 3:06:16Inside Baseball. Now let's.
- 3:06:17Go deep, Deep inside what I am excited.
- 3:06:21This is inside baseball. All right, guys, here we go.
- 3:06:29Into. Inside baseball we got a few
- 3:06:32stories around the league going to lead off the top one.
- 3:06:36We'll get everyone to react to this main story.
- 3:06:39Ethan Holiday did not go first overall as expected in baseball
- 3:06:44draft, but the baseball draft is quite unique gentlemen.
- 3:06:48You don't have to go first overall to get the most money
- 3:06:51and Ethan Holiday got the most money ever for a bonus for were
- 3:06:57the Colorado Rockies selected to his father's team.
- 3:07:01Holiday was the 4th pick overall behind Willits Bremer Cade.
- 3:07:07And then? Ethan Holiday.
- 3:07:11How? Do we feel about $8 million for
- 3:07:15a guy who was the 4th pick, not the first pick and hasn't played
- 3:07:21a game in? First of all, and I, I always
- 3:07:24say this, he went to Colorado. It's his father's team.
- 3:07:26So obviously he comes, his father's like the king and he's
- 3:07:30like a Prince. He grew up around that
- 3:07:32organization for such a long time, the Colorado Rockies.
- 3:07:35I'm sure ownership adores this kid.
- 3:07:39I think he's going to be a superstar there.
- 3:07:40They're going to build the team around him just like they built
- 3:07:43the team around their father or his father when he was, you
- 3:07:46know, coming up from the minor leagues.
- 3:07:48I think it's a great story. I'm not going to complain that
- 3:07:51this guy's making. You can't argue or complain
- 3:07:53about the talent of this kid and how much money.
- 3:07:56It doesn't matter. 9,000,010 million, 12 million.
- 3:08:00There are college coaches making more money than that and they
- 3:08:03don't even deserve it. This kid is an up and coming
- 3:08:05superstar. He was the bona fide number one
- 3:08:08pick and he falls over there to four to the Colorado Rockies.
- 3:08:12I, I just, it's a good story. I think that's all it is.
- 3:08:15Stop. Talking.
- 3:08:16I'm not. Talking about you, but why is
- 3:08:18anybody complaining about how much money he makes?
- 3:08:21To me, those that's pennies for what this kids going to make 6-7
- 3:08:24years down the road when he becomes a free agent.
- 3:08:27So I think the kids a better player than his younger, his
- 3:08:30older brother. That's why what I think he
- 3:08:32thinks going to be. I think he's going to be a star
- 3:08:33in his league. Yeah, I was.
- 3:08:37Going to yeah, go ahead. Speedy I.
- 3:08:38Was going to say. Like, I think the Rockies are
- 3:08:40not going to be spending much money anyway.
- 3:08:41So they're after the Chris Bryant contract, 9 million.
- 3:08:44Dollars. Yeah, I don't.
- 3:08:45They haven't done much anyway. They're not going to go
- 3:08:47anywhere, so why would they try to expend the extra money?
- 3:08:49Like there's it's not, it's one of those things where I don't
- 3:08:51think it's as big of a deal because it's not really.
- 3:08:53There's no salary cap in baseball.
- 3:08:54Plus, we talked about right at the end of the lockout like how
- 3:08:57bad we felt for all these leaguers.
- 3:08:59Like. We wanted, you want.
- 3:09:00Them to be able to make. Some money because the
- 3:09:02arbitration system's just so bad you look at.
- 3:09:04It back-to-back years. I mean between the brothers they
- 3:09:07signed for over 17,000,000 so the Holiday family is doing
- 3:09:10pretty good. Yeah.
- 3:09:12It's. Just it's different because it
- 3:09:15you have a pool of money and like people always look at it
- 3:09:18like slotted or whatever, but you take a pool of money.
- 3:09:21He has leverage. Obviously he was not going to
- 3:09:23turn down any type of money being drafted in the top five.
- 3:09:26Like surprisingly, he fell to four, which was surprised a lot
- 3:09:29of us. But yeah.
- 3:09:32I mean, he and he can demand what he wants because he's
- 3:09:35young, he's out of high school, he has leverage, obviously has
- 3:09:39the pedigree I expect him to do. I expect him to be close to his
- 3:09:43brother. I didn't.
- 3:09:45Expect. Him to be almost $1,000,000 more
- 3:09:46because his brother signed for 8.1 so.
- 3:09:49But I mean, hats off, go make your money while you can.
- 3:09:52And they're going. To.
- 3:09:53I mean, it's a great situation for him.
- 3:09:55His dad obviously coaches at Oklahoma State with his brother,
- 3:09:59but they're not too far away. So I, I think it's, it's a great
- 3:10:03fit for them and I think. It gives.
- 3:10:06It gives Rockies fans something to cheer about, which there
- 3:10:09hasn't been much to cheer about. So I think it's it's a win win
- 3:10:12for both of them. Let's see how.
- 3:10:14Fast they. Shoot them.
- 3:10:16Up the ladder or if they kind of let him figure it out.
- 3:10:19Or. They're.
- 3:10:20Like. Hey, you got your money figured
- 3:10:22out in the big leagues. I could.
- 3:10:24I could see all situations happening really.
- 3:10:27So why does the 4th overall pick get more money than the top pick
- 3:10:31overall in baseball? How does that even make sense?
- 3:10:35It just kind of depends. Well.
- 3:10:37Agent pedigree, like there's a lot that goes into it.
- 3:10:42Leverage like we had a kid that got drafted in the fifth round
- 3:10:46last. Year.
- 3:10:48High school. Kid going to LSU and he got
- 3:10:50fifth round, but he got 1.4. So it there's leverage.
- 3:10:55He's they knew he was going to LSU, so let's let's overpay him
- 3:10:58a little bit. So it's like, oh, if you come to
- 3:11:01go in our farm system instead of college, we'll give you this
- 3:11:04money type of thing. Yeah.
- 3:11:05So yeah, kind of. But if you're like a junior or
- 3:11:08senior, it's kind of like, hey, we can ask for more and see what
- 3:11:11happens. But you don't have as much
- 3:11:14leverage on the other side of it as some of these kids that you
- 3:11:19know, that have that and be like, hey, I can still go.
- 3:11:22To. College, like I can still do
- 3:11:25kind of whatever I want, so yeah.
- 3:11:28It's more of like a. Leverage thing I would say is
- 3:11:30probably the biggest, biggest way to describe it because.
- 3:11:35If you don't. Have a choice to go anywhere,
- 3:11:38then it's kind of like you're stuck with your money.
- 3:11:40But yeah, those other guys with their picks, obviously they're
- 3:11:43not going to complain too much. But yeah, well, at least I at
- 3:11:47least I wouldn't. Baseball is very unique.
- 3:11:51Every other sport that I know it's like slotted in how much
- 3:11:54you make yeah, cuz I mean you have yeah, top five.
- 3:11:57I mean it gives you in the in the crazy part.
- 3:12:00Too is like. Three of the five top five were
- 3:12:03college guys and you know, it's and they give you you can go on
- 3:12:07and see what like the evaluation for the number one pick.
- 3:12:10The pick value of this year was 11,000,000 and you we were fish
- 3:12:18and I were talking about this off air and Bremner and like I
- 3:12:22think Bremner was part of it, a story.
- 3:12:25Because. He didn't even come close.
- 3:12:27Mind you, 7.6 million isn't nothing to ride.
- 3:12:30Oh, you know, it's like, oh, and Willis was like 882 for the
- 3:12:34first pick. Yeah, it was 8276.
- 3:12:37Kate. Anderson got 8.8 and then Ethan
- 3:12:41got 9 million which his pick value is 8.7 so his was closest
- 3:12:45to actually his pick value. So.
- 3:12:49But everybody else has kind of been under their pick value,
- 3:12:51which usually you see a lot of the high school guys be a little
- 3:12:53bit more it. That doesn't surprise me with
- 3:12:58Bremner and his and you know, he was probably crapping his pants
- 3:13:02when he got drafted to overall anyways.
- 3:13:03I was talking to Kyle Peterson from ESPN who's going to come on
- 3:13:07the show mid late August. I talked to him today and talk.
- 3:13:11About. Them stuff, but yeah, we were
- 3:13:12talking about it during the draft and we were like I've he
- 3:13:15went. Way.
- 3:13:15Too high, but the story's cool, so I guess we'll see what
- 3:13:18happens. All right, let's.
- 3:13:19Move on to something that we talked about a lot at the
- 3:13:22beginning of the season and that is Rafael Devers playing first
- 3:13:27base for the San Francisco Giants.
- 3:13:30And in his first game he played an error free game over at
- 3:13:33first. He went 2 for five in the at the
- 3:13:37plate with an RBI and a nine nothing win.
- 3:13:39Here's the quote from Devers, who, if you remember correctly,
- 3:13:43abjectly refused to play first base for the Red Sox when they
- 3:13:47asked him and LED to his departure there.
- 3:13:50He was basically ADH. He's DH most of the time since
- 3:13:52he's been over in San Francisco, but this is what he said.
- 3:13:55It keeps me active. It keeps my head out of just
- 3:13:58thinking about the next at bat. Deborah says that through an
- 3:14:01interpreter. I'm kind of the player that
- 3:14:03likes to be active, likes to be on the field.
- 3:14:05I'd rather be on the field and be in the cage hitting all the
- 3:14:08time and just thinking about the next at bat.
- 3:14:11So obviously he's not playing third base anymore.
- 3:14:15They got a Gold Glover and Matt Chapman over there as well, just
- 3:14:18like they had Bregman in Boston. But pretty big slap in the face
- 3:14:23to the Red Sox. He's he's butt hurt because Alex
- 3:14:27Breadmain came to the team, he signed a big contract, he signed
- 3:14:31a three-year deal and he took his spot and a lot of Reds.
- 3:14:34I've I've spoke to a lot of Red Sox fans over the last couple of
- 3:14:38weeks, ever since he was I was on my cruise when I heard Devers
- 3:14:42was traded to San Francisco. And then I look at the trade and
- 3:14:45I heard about the trade. I was like, wow, San Francisco
- 3:14:48ripped off the Red Sox. They gave him absolutely nothing
- 3:14:53Doo Doo, as you know, Niff, it was absolute Doo Doo.
- 3:14:57And Devers came out and said he would not play first base with
- 3:15:02the Red Sox at all. He he's not going to play the
- 3:15:05field if he's not playing third base.
- 3:15:07I just think it shows you that Devers couldn't stand being
- 3:15:11there anymore. He thought that the Red Sox
- 3:15:13backstabbed him by bringing Bregman in after paying him
- 3:15:18what, a year before that, a lot of money, over $300 million when
- 3:15:22he could have went to the Mets as the story was that the that's
- 3:15:26were gunning for him if he went to free agency.
- 3:15:28He just thought that the Red Sox stabbed them in the back.
- 3:15:31I could understand that when you're making $300 million a job
- 3:15:34and you know this, you never even got a chance to make 300.
- 3:15:37Why are you bitching and moaning?
- 3:15:39Go play the game. If they want you to play first,
- 3:15:41they want you to play this center field position or you
- 3:15:44they want you to sit on your derriere and just be ADH as
- 3:15:49we've seen people and players do later in their careers.
- 3:15:53You do what they want when they're paying you that kind of
- 3:15:55money. So I, I don't know the butt
- 3:15:57hurt. But now he's not even
- 3:15:59complaining about playing first base with San Francisco.
- 3:16:01It just shows you how immature Raphael Devers was and why the
- 3:16:07Red Sox decided to part ways with them now.
- 3:16:09It's interesting. Because obviously you want to
- 3:16:11take shots at the Red Sox with how bad he felt like he was
- 3:16:14mistreated by the organization and rightfully so.
- 3:16:15And I think this is mostly what that is.
- 3:16:17Now, it's interesting with the internal culture with the
- 3:16:19Giants, Like he hasn't really brought the big, big offense.
- 3:16:22He himself has played well, but the rest of the offense has not
- 3:16:25played great around him. Some of that has to do with
- 3:16:27injuries too. So you wonder how much maybe the
- 3:16:28internal culture is still affecting the Giants.
- 3:16:30Just getting used to him because the Red Sox have played better
- 3:16:33since he's Lafia. They had 10 game-winning trigger
- 3:16:35at all, a lot of against bad teams out into the All Star
- 3:16:38break and the giants, they had a six game losing streak recently.
- 3:16:41So maybe still getting used to the internal culture with that.
- 3:16:44But yeah, he has a right to say, all right, I'm going to go take
- 3:16:46a shot at the Red Sox organization for the way I got
- 3:16:48treated. I.
- 3:16:49Just, I'm going to keep this short and sweet.
- 3:16:50It's just he, he got buttered because they did.
- 3:16:53Bregman thought they were taking his position away, realized
- 3:16:56that. Well, you know what?
- 3:16:57Let me swallow my pride, see what can happen.
- 3:17:00I don't know if you guys saw will Clark go at him like to,
- 3:17:03you know, work on his footwork and you know, will coming out
- 3:17:05and saying you're going to work with me, blah, blah blah, I
- 3:17:08think. He just.
- 3:17:08Realized that you know, if I if I am going to do what I think
- 3:17:11I'm best at and that's me not thinking about the next at bat,
- 3:17:14then playing first is the only only option I really got so.
- 3:17:18You know you. Got to swallow your pride
- 3:17:19sometimes and you know, we'll see what happens.
- 3:17:22OK, we go from there and we're going to kind of rapid fire
- 3:17:26these next few ones. The Dodgers bullpen takes
- 3:17:29another hit before today where they had a walk off.
- 3:17:33They've got blown out again blew up another lead late in games.
- 3:17:37They a closer Tanner Scott felt a twinge in the old forearm
- 3:17:42Jabba and and immediately Winston came out of the game.
- 3:17:45He was put on the 15 day IL. Why they still have a 15 day and
- 3:17:49a 10 day? I don't really understand.
- 3:17:51I I never really understood why there's one or the other or how
- 3:17:55we decide one gets the other. But regardless, it doesn't sound
- 3:17:59good. They were already talking about
- 3:18:01getting some more relievers because let's just listen to the
- 3:18:04the just the list of guys they have on this IL right now.
- 3:18:09Michael Kopesh, Blake Trinon, Bruce Agraderol, all injured.
- 3:18:14Trinon should be coming back soon.
- 3:18:16Are we surprised? Are we surprised they're they're
- 3:18:20using Alexis Diaz who flamed out with the Reds?
- 3:18:23As like. Their best reliever right now.
- 3:18:25Nobody is surprised that right now the Dodgers are playing with
- 3:18:29a burnt out bullpen, even their roster when it comes to that
- 3:18:32pitching. I mean, they have Glass now in.
- 3:18:35They have Glass now out. Oh, Tonys back, Is he?
- 3:18:39Is he going to pitch a full season?
- 3:18:41Sasaki? I mean, you paid him a lot of
- 3:18:43money, Glass. Glass now went 7 and 12.
- 3:18:46Yeah, he had a great start today.
- 3:18:48Glass now when? 7 innings, 12 strikeouts.
- 3:18:50Best start he's had all year. But that's the problem.
- 3:18:52Best start? That's hit.
- 3:18:54Or miss. And then if you're healthy,
- 3:18:56yeah. Well.
- 3:18:56That's that's the problem with the Dodgers and that's what we
- 3:18:58said you could pay all the money.
- 3:19:00You can spend all the money. Money doesn't always make you a
- 3:19:04champion. As we yes, as we said, seen this
- 3:19:07with the Yankees for many, many years.
- 3:19:09And now we're seeing it what the last time the Yankees won was
- 3:19:122009. The Yankees have spend, they've
- 3:19:14had, as far as the cap is concerned, one of the highest in
- 3:19:18baseball, if not the highest, and they still can't get over
- 3:19:21the hump. So my, my factual thought to
- 3:19:24this, this is the Dodgers are going to still be in it to win
- 3:19:27it. They're still going to go out
- 3:19:29there. They got a great farm system.
- 3:19:31If they want a pitcher or two or three, they're going to spend
- 3:19:35the money. They're going to spend the
- 3:19:37talent to bring those guys in because they're going to have a
- 3:19:40chance no matter what in the playoffs.
- 3:19:43When you have a healthy roster with this talent, I I don't
- 3:19:46think it's going to make a difference.
- 3:19:48I just, I'm not surprised I'm not.
- 3:19:50Yeah, the one thing. There's a Dodgers do well in
- 3:19:52addition to spending money too, is that they actually do a great
- 3:19:54job rebirthing bench players and both pitchers have failed on
- 3:19:59other teams a lot of the time. Kopeck was one of those guys
- 3:20:01last year. He was a starter with the White
- 3:20:02Sox for a while. He had a lot of injury problems,
- 3:20:04so never developed that same way.
- 3:20:05And they've done that for years too.
- 3:20:07So there's going to be two of those types of guys on selling
- 3:20:10teams that were top prospects. They won't be surprised if they
- 3:20:12fit right into this bullpen. Yeah, so.
- 3:20:16Fish difference between 10 and 15 tennis position players, 15
- 3:20:19as pitchers. Oh, I.
- 3:20:21Had no idea. That's so fascinating.
- 3:20:23OK, I guess that makes sense as far as like how many starts they
- 3:20:26would miss in that situation. So before we get out of this
- 3:20:29one. Who are they?
- 3:20:31Trading for. Now.
- 3:20:33If it's me, I know who I want to be my closer.
- 3:20:37If I'm the Dodgers and it has to be Mason Miller on the
- 3:20:40Athletics, he has by far the best stuff on a team that is
- 3:20:44going nowhere. Like always, I think the.
- 3:20:47Phillies are going to get. They almost did last year.
- 3:20:49I know they're going. To want a lot for him.
- 3:20:51But if this is the Dodgers we're talking about, they have a lot.
- 3:20:55This is the guy you go get and he's not that far away.
- 3:20:58Playing in Sacramento right now. That guy.
- 3:21:01Is unbelievable. Who else Speedy is available
- 3:21:03right now at the deadline for them.
- 3:21:05I think what it is is. More it's more of a process
- 3:21:08thing for them is that's more of what I'm getting at with like
- 3:21:10rebirthing guys that were not thought of that way.
- 3:21:12I think Tony Goslin was a good example of that.
- 3:21:15I think he was a journeyman for a while.
- 3:21:17They've done that with a lot of the Nationals relievers that
- 3:21:20they traded for over the years. That's more of what I'm getting
- 3:21:23at. I think it's going to be like
- 3:21:23two or three guys that are very random or like we're failed
- 3:21:26prospects somewhere else, is what I'm thinking.
- 3:21:28Maybe one of the youngsters with the Orioles.
- 3:21:29Maybe they get one of those guardians.
- 3:21:31They've got a ton of arms in their ball pack.
- 3:21:33Yeah, yeah, Class A is being rumored to be on the move.
- 3:21:37If they can't snap out. I don't think it's going.
- 3:21:38To be anyone big for the dodge, I think it's going to be like
- 3:21:40two or three, like surprise ones.
- 3:21:43Oh no, man, Jamie. Lee says Stearns better get the
- 3:21:45Mets another relief pitcher. I agree and I would.
- 3:21:48Look at the Guardians for that. Not Class A necessarily because
- 3:21:50I think he'll be too pricey, but I wouldn't one mind.
- 3:21:52Herron or Gaddis are one of those guys for the Mets.
- 3:21:56All. Right.
- 3:21:57Well, there was a real fascinating thing, Errol.
- 3:21:59As you know, you're the elder statesman on this program.
- 3:22:02Thank you. But even this guy who pitched 5
- 3:22:05innings earlier on this so rich. Mr. Rich Hill, 45 years young,
- 3:22:15returns to start for the Royals at the age of 45.
- 3:22:19Made his debut Tuesday night. Lil Rusty did his five innings,
- 3:22:24three runs, one strikeout, you know, 90 pitches.
- 3:22:29Got through 5 innings though, at age 45 in Major League Baseball.
- 3:22:33Top Brave on junior team, 14th team.
- 3:22:36Yeah, playing. Against the team that drafted
- 3:22:38him many, many, many years ago, I got to.
- 3:22:42I got to give. This guy, a lot of credit
- 3:22:44because anybody that could get back into the big league,
- 3:22:47stepping away from it for a little bit of time and then gets
- 3:22:50back on a mound and could just throw.
- 3:22:52I know our boy Nick Goody was trying to do that early this
- 3:22:55season. He was throwing on the mound.
- 3:22:57He was posting it up on Instagram.
- 3:22:59Oh, I got 91, I got to 92. If I can hit 95, I'm going to.
- 3:23:04I can definitely try out for a big league team.
- 3:23:07Father. Time usually hits you and when
- 3:23:09it hits you, it hits you flat on your ass.
- 3:23:12I, I, I am impressed that Rich Hill could still be able to
- 3:23:16throw the ball in a Major League level.
- 3:23:18I just think, you know, when you know, it's over, it's over.
- 3:23:24And I just, I'm not going to bet on this, but if anybody could do
- 3:23:29it, it's Rich Hill because I've seen him do crazy things.
- 3:23:33He was playing for the Long Island Ducks before he came back
- 3:23:36to the majors. And then he got that $40 million
- 3:23:38contract from the Dodgers, which I was just like shocked that the
- 3:23:42Dodgers would pay him that kind of money.
- 3:23:44Just think, you step away from baseball, you're paying to play
- 3:23:48baseball with the Ducks, and now you're making $40 million
- 3:23:52because you had one good season and the Dodgers give you that
- 3:23:55extension. I mean, incredible story.
- 3:23:57I mean, this could be a storybook ending and maybe they
- 3:24:00make a movie out of it. It'll be a movie.
- 3:24:01That's literally what I was. Saying, though, with the Dodgers
- 3:24:03making random dudes good again, Rich Hill got his career, like
- 3:24:06rebirthed it away. It's bumped around many
- 3:24:08different teams, obviously. I think he had two stints with
- 3:24:09the Disney. We should pitch this to Disney.
- 3:24:11Yeah, but. Yeah, definitely.
- 3:24:13Incredible story, Rich I'll. Be your agent for this one.
- 3:24:16Definitely a great. Story.
- 3:24:17I know Disney had that. Movie The Rookie years ago about
- 3:24:20that pitcher. Well, this one would be the
- 3:24:22journeyman, right? It'd just be like, yeah.
- 3:24:25He's just. Everywhere.
- 3:24:27He's played for literally everybody in this entire league.
- 3:24:30I guess at this point Jim Moore just mentioning.
- 3:24:32Jim Jamie Moore That would be I guess this generation's version
- 3:24:35of that. Moyer was a.
- 3:24:36Better player great, but just say you.
- 3:24:38Like launch Ebony was and we got.
- 3:24:40One last thing to do, guys. I want to end this segment by
- 3:24:43taking a look at the standings in baseball right now.
- 3:24:48Do we have to? We got this 100 games into the
- 3:24:51season, all right. We're about 100 games in.
- 3:24:54We'll start with the National League.
- 3:24:56Mets 1/2 up. On the.
- 3:24:58Phillies as this. Moment.
- 3:25:01Norland. 'S under 500 Braves season from
- 3:25:04hell. Nationals not being taken
- 3:25:06seriously. We'll start with the NL East.
- 3:25:09It's 2. Horse race guys, the beginning
- 3:25:12of the season, we thought the Braves would be involved a
- 3:25:15little bit more than this, but are we talking about two real
- 3:25:21contenders or are we talking about two really flawed teams
- 3:25:25that need to make a big move? Right now, the only team in that
- 3:25:28division has a chance to win a championship this year, and this
- 3:25:31is not hatred to the Mets, is the Philadelphia Phillies.
- 3:25:35They're the only team that I think when it comes down to the
- 3:25:39playoffs and the Dodgers and the National League, because I think
- 3:25:43there'll be a surprise team in the National League that could
- 3:25:46make a run. There's nobody besides Philly.
- 3:25:49I know the Mets and Mets fans, I want to believe all the better
- 3:25:52than they were last year and they made that run.
- 3:25:55That was last year and this is this year.
- 3:25:57It's a different time, it's a different game.
- 3:26:01And again, you got to get a lot of luck.
- 3:26:03And the Mets were very lucky last year with some of the
- 3:26:06timely hitting they had throughout the playoffs.
- 3:26:08So I don't know if an Arizona. Getting hurt a bunch I don't.
- 3:26:12Know if Lindor can get as hot as he did and.
- 3:26:15And obviously it's cold right now.
- 3:26:17Yeah. I just, I don't know.
- 3:26:19I don't think it's going to be possible.
- 3:26:21The Mets are making the playoffs.
- 3:26:22I just think they're going to fall short again this year.
- 3:26:25Then I'm making it to the NLCS. So it's Philadelphia's the only
- 3:26:29team out of the bunk. They're the better.
- 3:26:30Team with more experience, yeah, and I think Speedy, why don't.
- 3:26:32You take the the central. We got to move this segment.
- 3:26:35I apologize. You got to move this one along.
- 3:26:37Why don't you take the central? The Central also has two big
- 3:26:41dogs, and one of them is a major surprise.
- 3:26:44Milwaukee sitting a game ahead of the Cubs right now in the
- 3:26:48lead of the Central 20 games. Are you surprised?
- 3:26:50Over 5. 100 the Reds few games over 500 the Cardinals one game.
- 3:26:55Where's goody? Where's goody?
- 3:26:57Because I want to, I want to stick it to Goody right now that
- 3:27:00Cincinnati is falling flat on their face.
- 3:27:03I told you, Goody, they're not good.
- 3:27:05They're not good. I mean, there's still.
- 3:27:07Only two, two hours they're. OK, though it's not.
- 3:27:09Dead yet they're not. Making the playoffs, it's.
- 3:27:13Going. To be tough for them.
- 3:27:14But what, speedy? What?
- 3:27:16Why don't you tell us a little bit about, Yeah, the surprising
- 3:27:19Brewers, Yeah? It's.
- 3:27:21Interesting because the Brewers in like I think 3 out of the
- 3:27:24four, like super like when you look at hitting like the biggest
- 3:27:28priorities with advanced stats, they're actually like bottom
- 3:27:30five in the league. So it's crazy like this pace
- 3:27:33that they're on right now and they're beating a lot of.
- 3:27:34Really good teams, so. They have the best record in the
- 3:27:36National League against above 500 teams.
- 3:27:39They just swept the Dodgers. I think that's cold.
- 3:27:41Sex. They won five, got a six.
- 3:27:42Against the Dodgers in a span, they did well against the
- 3:27:45Giants, they've done well against the Cubs.
- 3:27:47The one matches that they had with an offense that still is
- 3:27:50very flawed, like I was concerned about the line.
- 3:27:53The Brewers line of death is not very good at all.
- 3:27:56And then the Cubs to the other extreme, the Cubs have did,
- 3:27:59besides the Dodgers, the best offense in the league and they
- 3:28:01have very questionable pitching. And so it's kind of a weird
- 3:28:04dynamic of two extreme teams the way it is.
- 3:28:07The Cubs have a better run differential.
- 3:28:09It's probably a little more sustainable at this point.
- 3:28:11The Brewers, you think they cool off eventually, but they have a
- 3:28:13they have a system, a factory that works with their pitching
- 3:28:16that they can get so many guys even losing guys to make work.
- 3:28:19My brother Troy, when I saw him recently, compared to the
- 3:28:23American League version of the Rays, they're looking like that
- 3:28:25right now. He's they're not.
- 3:28:27You know what it is with you and I, I got to say this.
- 3:28:30I, it bothers the hell out of me and I, I know I'm not taking
- 3:28:35shots at any of your brothers. You spit out so much lyrics and
- 3:28:40I mean a lot. And you come to one thing and
- 3:28:44you mentioned your brother in comparison to one team to
- 3:28:47another. I, I do not see a comparison
- 3:28:50like that. Your problem is, is when you
- 3:28:52listen to something, you always use it in a monologue or in your
- 3:28:56conversations that scare people away.
- 3:28:59This is not the same team. So I, I, and in the same
- 3:29:02conversation that we've had off air on some of the things that
- 3:29:05you say. It irks me when you say things
- 3:29:08like this and then you fall flat on your face when you're wrong
- 3:29:11about it, including your brothers.
- 3:29:14It's horrible. I can't compare one team to
- 3:29:16another in another year, especially what he's trying to
- 3:29:19compare right now. It's not true.
- 3:29:21It's not true. So.
- 3:29:24The job. Let's let's give you the West
- 3:29:27Dodgers way ahead of everybody, 17 games, 99% of the world, the
- 3:29:31Padres only eight games over, kind of in the same falling off
- 3:29:35trajectory as the Giants, who are a game and a half behind
- 3:29:39them. Those teams were right there
- 3:29:41with the Dodgers. What happened to those guys?
- 3:29:43This is an interesting division. We didn't think the giants would
- 3:29:47even stand a chance in in this division And and they're holding
- 3:29:51on. I mean, they're it's crazy to
- 3:29:53see like, you know how the differentials are so are so vast
- 3:29:57and obviously some of these top teams and they even 2nd place
- 3:30:00teams. But I, I think what comes down
- 3:30:02to it is just the depth and what like, even with all the injuries
- 3:30:05from the pitching staff of what the Dodgers have, it's just the
- 3:30:08depth of what they can do and score runs and, and.
- 3:30:11How they? Go about scoring runs and and
- 3:30:13they can score them in bunches at times.
- 3:30:15I mean, show he's at 5 homers in a row and then the Padres.
- 3:30:19Padres talent is deep. Their pitching is is is
- 3:30:23something to to see if it holds up.
- 3:30:27I'd love the division and you're going to get two of them out of
- 3:30:30it to see if the Giants can hold up is probably going to be is
- 3:30:35going to be the biggest question.
- 3:30:36I mean, Ver got his first win. If you could get him on a roll
- 3:30:40in the second-half, that could be a different, that could be
- 3:30:42the difference maker. But.
- 3:30:44I think it's still a 2 headed race in that monster.
- 3:30:47All right, let's move over to the American League.
- 3:30:50Let's. Put that one.
- 3:30:51Up on the screen American League East, Yankees four games back at
- 3:30:56Toronto. Lost again tonight.
- 3:30:59The Red Sox are only one game back in the win column of the
- 3:31:02Yankees, but have 3 losses in hand for the Yanks.
- 3:31:05So they're two games behind the Yankees.
- 3:31:07Technically. The Rays three got games behind
- 3:31:09the Yankees. All of them are over 500.
- 3:31:12The Yankees had a big, big early lead.
- 3:31:15You know, they're the best defensive team in baseball and
- 3:31:18they're savages. But Errol, are they going to be
- 3:31:22able to come out of this division?
- 3:31:23The way this is looking, I think the Yankees will make one, maybe
- 3:31:27two or three big moves. I don't see Brian Cashman
- 3:31:31sitting Pat with what the Yankees are producing right now
- 3:31:34offensively and even the pitching wise, they need bullpen
- 3:31:38arms. I expect them to get one big 1.
- 3:31:40And I also expect the Yankees, if they had a bat, maybe 2.
- 3:31:44The Yankees are going to be in it to win it no matter what.
- 3:31:47This is an organization that expects superstars and expect
- 3:31:52winning and making the playoffs every single year.
- 3:31:54Are they going to win? I don't know.
- 3:31:56They they definitely need some bats in the middle of that
- 3:31:59lineup. There's not enough hitting and
- 3:32:01consistency where they're going to get over the hump.
- 3:32:04I I do not, I think it's fool's gold right now to believe that
- 3:32:07the Blue Jays are playing at a high level and they're going to
- 3:32:10continue doing this for the next 80 games.
- 3:32:13I do not see that as much as I think the Blue Jays are
- 3:32:17sensational and what they've done in the last five weeks.
- 3:32:20And as far as the Red Sox are concerned, the Red Sox are going
- 3:32:23to fall flat on their face like they always do over the last
- 3:32:26three to four years. They're not going anywhere.
- 3:32:29And I like Alex Bregman and if I was Alex, even with the contract
- 3:32:34he's going to buy, he's going to step out of that contract at the
- 3:32:37end of the season because he's not going to.
- 3:32:39He's having such a great year. He can get more money.
- 3:32:42Don't be surprised if he doesn't end up a Red Sox next year.
- 3:32:46I expect him to go to free agency and show me the money, as
- 3:32:50we all heard with Jerry Maguire. So I expect that to happen
- 3:32:54again. Speedy, I'm going to give you
- 3:32:56the West. We'll let Jabba talk about the
- 3:32:59Central where you played for two of those.
- 3:33:00Slots. So speedy, the West is looking
- 3:33:04very simple. You're a.
- 3:33:06Houston, I don't think they're. Cheating anymore, but they're
- 3:33:09still winning somehow. I can't believe it at the
- 3:33:11beginning of the season, but there they are.
- 3:33:13Game's over. The Seattle.
- 3:33:15Mariners six games over and the six games back of Houston, TX
- 3:33:21starting to come around a little bit.
- 3:33:23Three games over 500. Jacob degrom obviously has made
- 3:33:26a difference over there. Speedy.
- 3:33:29Talk about a little bit. About Texas is comeback, you
- 3:33:33know, like this big comeback from Texas who really were an
- 3:33:35afterthought series team not that long ago, my friend yeah,
- 3:33:40they were an. Afterthought but they always had
- 3:33:41a good run differential, it was just a matter of if their
- 3:33:43offense could even be league average because their pitching
- 3:33:45was really good and it was being wasted for a while for the first
- 3:33:47probably 2 1/2 months of the season.
- 3:33:49But now is actually playing a little better where if they can
- 3:33:52just get league average offense with the shocking and wet with
- 3:33:55the area, what they what they have a couple of deadline moves
- 3:33:58they'll probably need because their young players haven't been
- 3:34:00great outside of Josh. I think he's been in and out
- 3:34:03with injury as well. And trims or not, that I think
- 3:34:07gives the Rangers still the highest upside a little more
- 3:34:10than the Mariners. I think the Mariners are still
- 3:34:11kind of battling a lot of injuries.
- 3:34:12So I think they're kind of what they've always been that always
- 3:34:15team, the first team out type thing.
- 3:34:17I don't really see much upside besides that depth wise in their
- 3:34:22organizational system as well. Their stars are there, no doubt,
- 3:34:25but they they lack depth. And do they have enough to
- 3:34:27trade? I have.
- 3:34:28No clue. All.
- 3:34:30Right. Java.
- 3:34:31Let's talk Central a little bit here to wrap it up.
- 3:34:34We got the Tigers running away with the division best pitcher
- 3:34:37in baseball on that squad and Tarek school over there and a
- 3:34:42lot of other guys having good years.
- 3:34:43Casey Mize, Obviously they have to keep together that bullpen.
- 3:34:48That might be a team that looks for a guy to just put the icing
- 3:34:51on the cake. Are the Tigers for real?
- 3:34:54And do your old squads of the Guardians or Royals sitting in
- 3:34:57second and third have anything to muster?
- 3:35:01I think if. If, if it's anybody, honestly, I
- 3:35:04think it's the Guardians. Just with the leadership, I
- 3:35:08mean. It's tough.
- 3:35:10Too tigers coming out of it and they've they've gone 1 and 9 and
- 3:35:13lost their last 11 of 13. So obviously not the start you
- 3:35:17want coming out of the break, but I just I think depending on.
- 3:35:24I think. You're probably right with the
- 3:35:26Tigers, like maybe I would say a mid level move.
- 3:35:30I don't think it needs to be anything drastic.
- 3:35:32Maybe, maybe add another arm. Do I think Tark's going to do it
- 3:35:36again? Yeah.
- 3:35:37He's, he's proven he has the ability, he has the endurance
- 3:35:40and and we've seen it from back-to-back years.
- 3:35:42So I think if there's anybody that could muster up anything,
- 3:35:45I, I love that the Royals are overachieving because it makes
- 3:35:48for good conversation, you know, over here because we, we didn't
- 3:35:53think they were going to do near this and, you know, see.
- 3:35:56The guys you know. Pasquano, his story is great.
- 3:35:59Like a couple years ago he's getting paid 8 bucks to flip
- 3:36:02burgers and now he's hitting Homer.
- 3:36:03So he just had two, I think 2:00 today and Salvy hit another one.
- 3:36:07So they're a. Fun.
- 3:36:08Energetic team to watch, I just think they're not deep enough to
- 3:36:13to. To catch.
- 3:36:14Cleveland. And then the Tigers.
- 3:36:16Really have to just Rea all over themselves to to not make a spot
- 3:36:21out of them. And I.
- 3:36:23Think the Royals really miss Reagan's this year?
- 3:36:26I think that's probably the biggest thing that's called sex.
- 3:36:29We'll visit some more baseball stories next week, though.
- 3:36:32Doesn't he look like Dracula side baseball?
- 3:36:35All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have one more segment of the
- 3:36:38night. No book goodies, Bag of balls.
- 3:36:40And Speedy, are you packing any balls tonight?
- 3:36:42Not that I know. Of so you have no balls, not.
- 3:36:45That I know. Of no testes.
- 3:36:46What? You said you had balls, right?
- 3:36:49I have some, I don't know if I'm packing them, no if.
- 3:36:53You're not packing them? Then where are they?
- 3:36:54Where would they? Be.
- 3:36:56Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're not.
- 3:36:58Being. Moved.
- 3:36:59Well, then they're on you, right?
- 3:37:01They're attached. So.
- 3:37:02They're a part of you. There you go.
- 3:37:04We're that's what we're talking about.
- 3:37:05Speaking of dis attached to most of the things that come out of
- 3:37:10this kids mouth, mouth or math. We call this analytics ladies.
- 3:37:15And. Gentlemen.
- 3:37:16And now I want. Everybody together to go ahead.
- 3:37:22And say. Penis, penis, penis, vagina,
- 3:37:25vagina, vagina man. Welcome back everybody to yet
- 3:37:33another that's episode of Anal Lytics Equality Educational
- 3:37:38Experience. If you are new to the show or
- 3:37:42you haven't stuck around to the end and you are lucky enough to
- 3:37:46be still on the air right now, this is a game show between
- 3:37:49Errol and Speedy. The way this one works, there's
- 3:37:52a mystery term that both of them will have to solve.
- 3:37:55They will have up to three clues to solve it and whoever gets it
- 3:37:57right and the fewest amount of clues is the winner.
- 3:38:01This week there is a catch. They have a tiebreaker.
- 3:38:04They have to use it in a sentence correctly.
- 3:38:07If they both get in the same amount of clues, whoever had the
- 3:38:09best sentence is the winner. There's a catch to all of this,
- 3:38:13though, because Speedy is our guru of sports analytics.
- 3:38:17He will ask Errol, who's more of an eye test man, a
- 3:38:20traditionalist. A Sports.
- 3:38:22Analytical term to have to solve.
- 3:38:25On the other hand, we can't ask Speedy those questions.
- 3:38:27We have to ask him something that he will equally not know.
- 3:38:30Well, those are going to be sexual innuendos.
- 3:38:34Errol has been stumping Speedy with these.
- 3:38:37It feels like the greater part of the 21st century, I think.
- 3:38:43Speedy. 'S got one right?
- 3:38:45One or. Two I've won.
- 3:38:47I've won I think 3 but I the one of them was just because I used
- 3:38:51something with Halle Berry and Errol liked it at the sentence
- 3:38:53or something. Yeah.
- 3:38:56I think like you won two and I think or like you got two of
- 3:39:00them, right, but you've won three.
- 3:39:02Yeah, that. Sounds like, I think.
- 3:39:03Let's get the. Music on right now and let's get
- 3:39:06the big reveal Speedy. For.
- 3:39:10Your analytical term. Of the evening.
- 3:39:13All right, so this week we're doing.
- 3:39:14Football. It is Pepa.
- 3:39:16Peppa Pepa, The Peppa P/E. PA
- 3:39:36position. Nope.
- 3:39:42Well, that's wrong right off the bat.
- 3:39:43So that was the wild guess Rounds.
- 3:39:45It's now time for the big reveal.
- 3:39:48We all are always holding our breath on this one in more ways
- 3:39:51than one. Errol, the music is on all
- 3:39:53right. Speed, Are you ready for this?
- 3:39:55All right, I had better get this one so I could use Nathan in a
- 3:39:58sentence. The.
- 3:40:01Angry dragon, OH. Boy, oh.
- 3:40:04No, this one. This is kind of a.
- 3:40:07Classic one. Yep, all.
- 3:40:08Right, so obviously the Dragons breathe fire.
- 3:40:12So somebody is so a guy on the right path.
- 3:40:16Passing. Heat.
- 3:40:19While like. Exhaling like big breath.
- 3:40:22While making out. With a woman.
- 3:40:31I thought he was going to use the.
- 3:40:32I thought he was going to keep going with where the fire was
- 3:40:34coming from Well, I mean it's a wild guess and you know what
- 3:40:38it's really about an A for effort in this round E boys
- 3:40:41definitely got that, but now it's time to flip the script
- 3:40:45let's get some clues in here The music's back on speedy for pepa
- 3:40:50all right so so. The first P is what you would
- 3:40:53consider a. A result in your favor is.
- 3:40:57You would think of it as a blank for you.
- 3:40:59The E is a word for something that is supposed to happen and
- 3:41:07then the a. The the other P is just simply
- 3:41:12something you score. The a is a math term.
- 3:41:19Yeah. I I had to look.
- 3:41:21This one I wasn't even close. I'm.
- 3:41:25I'm not even sure on this one. I know at least the first half
- 3:41:28of it though. Say that one more time.
- 3:41:31All right, so the. First, P if if a result goes in
- 3:41:34your favor, it's considered a blank outcome for you.
- 3:41:38Positive. Yep.
- 3:41:40So E is something that's supposed to happen.
- 3:41:43Another word for that. Spell positive so I've never.
- 3:41:48Heard it like just P. I've always heard it as EPA.
- 3:41:52Yes. This one's actually specifically
- 3:41:53for defensive players and E. Is what?
- 3:41:56What is it? Something.
- 3:41:58Another a word for something that's supposed to happen.
- 3:42:02With an E, yeah. I have no idea.
- 3:42:08I don't know. All right.
- 3:42:12See. All right.
- 3:42:14Let's move on back the other way.
- 3:42:17Let's get the music on. Errol Speedy needs some clues on
- 3:42:21the Angry Dragon blowing a load on something.
- 3:42:30OK, so the heat you say on. Or in on in.
- 3:42:38Get the. Load on so so the heat.
- 3:42:40Is coming from what you claimed, that what Brittany claimed had
- 3:42:43something smelled of yours that I don't.
- 3:42:46Think, I don't think Speedy can imagine doing this so he's not
- 3:42:49going to get this one tonight. So all.
- 3:42:52Right. So the heat, let's say is coming
- 3:42:54from your ass after eating too much spicy food.
- 3:42:58Now the question is where is it going into is another question.
- 3:43:01That's a good question. Where is it going into?
- 3:43:04So where lots of lots of spicy food coming out of a guy's ass.
- 3:43:11Into. I feel like it has to be into
- 3:43:16the mouth because it's a dragon. You're in the right.
- 3:43:21Direction. I like it.
- 3:43:25It's in the right. Direction.
- 3:43:27What's going in that direction is not correct, but.
- 3:43:30We. Are getting closer round one of
- 3:43:33clues is done moving on to two Speedy give him another clue for
- 3:43:39Pepa all right so we'll go back. To the EA little bit later we'll
- 3:43:42go to we'll go to pay you. In any sport, your goal is to
- 3:43:45score what? Score.
- 3:43:56You try to. Have the most.
- 3:44:02Points, yeah. And then a a general math term,
- 3:44:08if you just if you do a equation, basically addition,
- 3:44:18yeah, added, I'll give that to you, added addition.
- 3:44:20OK, so. Just say.
- 3:44:22Plus sign, yeah. OK, plus.
- 3:44:25Sign all right and. Then E so again, something the
- 3:44:30previous clue was something that is supposed to happen if you if
- 3:44:34you call somebody, you predict something you could have said
- 3:44:37like I did this, I blanked. That's a good.
- 3:44:41That's a really good clue, Speedy.
- 3:44:44All right, Daryl. I don't know.
- 3:44:48Charles Dickens had a book about it.
- 3:44:51And you think I know what? Charles Dixon.
- 3:44:53They were great. I I I know it was the best of
- 3:44:56times. It was the worst of times.
- 3:44:59I couldn't even pronounce his name.
- 3:45:01You want me to remember Charles Dixon?
- 3:45:02Pip. No, I don't know my little Pip.
- 3:45:05No, no, no. I.
- 3:45:08Didn't think you're? Going to get it from that clue.
- 3:45:10All right, We got that as a wrong answer.
- 3:45:13Your arrow is very close though, Speedy.
- 3:45:15You're going to have to get a lot closer than just the
- 3:45:18direction of the orifice that's going into.
- 3:45:21Are we going to have to? Rename this segment
- 3:45:23Analyturitics at this rate. I guess so.
- 3:45:28We'll see. All right.
- 3:45:30The music's on Arrow. He needs another clue.
- 3:45:33All right. Angry so after.
- 3:45:40You drop a. Load in this specific place, you
- 3:45:45smack that person and it comes out of something.
- 3:45:50Oh. Wow.
- 3:45:52OK. All right, so you're.
- 3:45:56You just basically. Gave him the whole thing.
- 3:45:57I know. So you're.
- 3:45:59Past. And he?
- 3:45:59Said he said where it came out of too.
- 3:46:02Yes, he doesn't. I don't think he understands the
- 3:46:04term load. Errol, don't say anything.
- 3:46:08OK, so maybe it's not talking. Laundry here, yeah, maybe it's.
- 3:46:12Not the Maybe it's not the actual air coming out.
- 3:46:15Maybe it's the gross crap coming out.
- 3:46:18Hey. Now so.
- 3:46:20Then hey now it goes into a woman's mouth and then a
- 3:46:27slapping motion where? Did that come?
- 3:46:30From think about. What a dragon does and where
- 3:46:34where it comes out of. So it.
- 3:46:36Flies. It attacks and it breathes fire
- 3:46:40and it breathes fire. OK.
- 3:46:42Well, now we're cooking. So then.
- 3:46:44The the gross bodily pus, whatever's coming out is being
- 3:46:57smacked is what's throwing me. Like, I guess it's being like
- 3:47:04thwarted down. Errol.
- 3:47:07What do you talk? About ESPN, would love this bit.
- 3:47:09What are you? Talking.
- 3:47:10About. It's like AI don't like a
- 3:47:13launching motion like I feel like a dragon coming down while.
- 3:47:19Playing it like launching all right speedy, we're going to
- 3:47:21need you to tie it up a little bit we got we got to move so
- 3:47:24the. The gross crap, the load,
- 3:47:27whatever. After it goes into the woman's
- 3:47:30mouth, then the guy, then the guy comes down on her and smacks
- 3:47:41her. I don't know.
- 3:47:41I don't know where the smack, the smacking is, what's throwing
- 3:47:44me. Well, Akon said smack that all
- 3:47:48on the floor. But for now, the answer is
- 3:47:51wrong. We will move on to.
- 3:47:55The last. Round of clues.
- 3:47:57Errol is almost there. Speedy final clue for Pepa.
- 3:48:01Yeah, so. Again, something that if you
- 3:48:03predict it happens and you could say like I blanked it to happen
- 3:48:11what Fish was describing before. So A-Team could have very high
- 3:48:15or low, like it's another term for potential.
- 3:48:19Like somebody, somebody like, like in football, the Eagles
- 3:48:23winning the Super Bowl are going to have big.
- 3:48:26And it's another. Term like fish was describing
- 3:48:29before that starts with E. Big.
- 3:48:35When a. Woman is pregnant.
- 3:48:36She is. Exposed.
- 3:48:46Not the weird shit you watch. I'm talking about like a regular
- 3:48:50thing. And by the way, I did get a, we
- 3:48:52did get a comment earlier tonight from that I think we
- 3:48:56need to put up there. We got you proven wrong right
- 3:48:59off the bat. Sometimes they do the farts,
- 3:49:02they do smell. Yeah, right.
- 3:49:04I don't. Know.
- 3:49:05She's lying. I don't know.
- 3:49:11You can do this. Say it one more, one more
- 3:49:14pregnant woman, it said. She is something ING ING.
- 3:49:22Expecting. Yeah, here it is.
- 3:49:25Put it together. Put it all together, positive,
- 3:49:29expecting. What was the other one?
- 3:49:32You. Score the most.
- 3:49:34Points. And then the map.
- 3:49:37Plus sign and the map plus equal positive addition.
- 3:49:41Add, add, add. So yeah.
- 3:49:43It's positive, expected points added.
- 3:49:47There it. Is and that is correct.
- 3:49:52Errol Marks. You know what you have to do
- 3:49:54now, though, You got to use it correctly in a sentence.
- 3:49:58Let's use the the future legend himself, Justin Fields in this
- 3:50:02one. I'm sorry, defensive player.
- 3:50:04So let's go your favorite. He said he added 15 lbs of
- 3:50:06muscle. Will McDonald tell me about his
- 3:50:10pepper? Will McDonald last year amongst
- 3:50:15rookies, had a farm amongst rookies, he.
- 3:50:19Came from Iowa State, so he might have had a farm.
- 3:50:21Had one. Of the best positive expecting.
- 3:50:27What? Was it points just?
- 3:50:30Say. PEPAPP that had one of the best
- 3:50:33PP As for all the amongst all the rookies.
- 3:50:38So there you go. All right.
- 3:50:40I don't know if he was among the best, but that is a good
- 3:50:43sentence amongst the best rookie.
- 3:50:46I would say that's a pretty strong sentence.
- 3:50:48Speedy. You're you're not there yet.
- 3:50:51I'd say, you know, like Bon Jovi would say you were halfway
- 3:50:54there, but you're also right now living on a prayer.
- 3:50:58We. Got to put.
- 3:50:58The music back on one last time. Yes, by that.
- 3:51:01Reference OK. For the angry dragon.
- 3:51:04So when the man, I'm giving you their hint.
- 3:51:09Is dropping. The load somewhere.
- 3:51:13He. Smacks somewhere on the body and
- 3:51:19it comes out somewhere on the face.
- 3:51:24OK, like a. Dragon and then she.
- 3:51:29Falls down. But gets back up.
- 3:51:32And does. Something.
- 3:51:33OK, so the gross load crap goes into the woman's mouth, the guy
- 3:51:40then slaps her and then the the pus comes out OK.
- 3:51:45Of where? Of her mouth.
- 3:51:47OK. And.
- 3:51:50Then. They both do intimate things on
- 3:51:53that gross crap. But but wait a wait a second, I
- 3:51:59said. She gets up and she.
- 3:52:02She does. Something like a drag drag.
- 3:52:05Drags the guy down. Oh.
- 3:52:07She breathes it back into him. Where is it?
- 3:52:11Where? Does a dragon breathes from?
- 3:52:14His mouth no where is. Fire.
- 3:52:19Where do you breathe from? Your mouth, you breathe fire
- 3:52:27your. Nose Speedy.
- 3:52:30You breathe from your nose, right?
- 3:52:35There. It's like what I.
- 3:52:36Don't know what I don't know what that's called.
- 3:52:38Mythology you're reading, you're seeing.
- 3:52:40That's that's called. Sex, the fire comes.
- 3:52:42Out of the dragon, no Wiener. Bark.
- 3:52:44I mean smoke. Does, but they snort.
- 3:52:47The fire. Do.
- 3:52:52He tastes. Himself, Errol.
- 3:52:55Read it off to him. You are the winner tonight, by
- 3:52:57the way, Errol Marx of Anal Lidde.
- 3:52:59Yes, thank you. Thank you very much.
- 3:53:02OK, Speed. You ready, angry dragon?
- 3:53:04Immediately after you blow your load, which is the stuff that
- 3:53:10comes out of your. You know what?
- 3:53:12OK, Yeah, The gross. Crap.
- 3:53:13I know. Yes, the gross crap.
- 3:53:16In a girl's mouth. Smack them in the back of her
- 3:53:19head and make it come out of her nose.
- 3:53:22OK. Oh, OK.
- 3:53:24All right. And when she gets up, she will
- 3:53:26look like an angry dragon. Oh, OK.
- 3:53:31Sorry, whatever. You were trying to get to I.
- 3:53:36I think I'm a little no the slapping.
- 3:53:38Motion. I didn't think that would
- 3:53:39actually spawn it out of the nose.
- 3:53:40OK, well. There you go.
- 3:53:43Thank you to the one and only Jimmy Lawrence for joining us.
- 3:53:47Hopefully Nick Goody is winning and his team is moving on
- 3:53:52throughout the playoffs. We're rooting for him and
- 3:53:54unfortunately he couldn't make it.
- 3:53:55So all the fans saying, is Nick coming to be on?
- 3:53:58Is Nick going to be on? No, he's not on tonight, but
- 3:54:02he'll be back on Monday, I'm sure, and probably Wednesday.
- 3:54:04But thank you to Jimmy Bouchard Breland.
- 3:54:07We are. We'll reschedule with him and
- 3:54:10get him on the show. He's been a little busy.
- 3:54:12Maybe he's in the booth wrapping his way with what did they call
- 3:54:16him, the Jack Rabbit? I don't know.
- 3:54:18He might be jacking off the Jack rabbit, Who knows?
- 3:54:21Anyways, thank you to all the fans that are following us on
- 3:54:25Spotify and Apple video, Spotify and Apple audio.
- 3:54:29Like we always say thank you to TikTok fans, Instagram fans,
- 3:54:33Facebook fans, YouTube fans, everybody fans, X fans a little
- 3:54:38lost. We guys should be following us
- 3:54:40on X, but you know it's not that important and Speedy's category.
- 3:54:45Anyways, thank you again. We'll be back on Monday.
- 3:54:49Speedy, who we have on. Joining the show, thanks to
- 3:54:51Nathan for getting him. 9:45 will be a former Ray's Rockies.
- 3:54:55A couple other teams I don't forget offhand.
- 3:54:56Ray's Rockies relief pitcher Jake McGee will be joining us.
- 3:54:59Jake. McGee Solid.
- 3:55:01There you go, Jake. Good stuff.
- 3:55:03Yes. That'll be fun a little a little
- 3:55:06speedy well left-hander yeah a little left-hander who likes to
- 3:55:09blow loads, as we all know. Anyways, thank you again.
- 3:55:13We really appreciate it, the fans.
- 3:55:15Thank you to Blue Wire. Think, oh, I just hit myself in
- 3:55:17the crotch. Oh, that hurts.
- 3:55:19Oh man, how the hell did you do that?
- 3:55:23I put my hand up and I slapped down and it hit me right in
- 3:55:25between my legs. That hurts.
- 3:55:27The karma for the angry Dragon stuff.
- 3:55:29Yeah, it was definitely calm up, but Oh my God, I'm feeling it
- 3:55:32down my leg right now. Anyways, thank you to the fans.
- 3:55:35We'll be back on Monday. Until then, have a good weekend.
- 3:55:39And by the way, here we go A1 and A2 and A3.
- 3:55:45Happy birthday All right, Speedy, happy 30th.
- 3:56:23We love you. Thank you very much.
- 3:56:25Thank you very much. As Elvis always says.
- 3:56:27And he says got to. Go.
- 3:56:29Good night, if it. Is the worldwide sports radio
- 3:56:33network.