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Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP8 - Families Of Opposing Beliefs (Viewer Request) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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production. Good to see everybody back here
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again. Hear from everybody.
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Hope you're all doing well. And I hope you're enjoying your
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coming into the, the springtime months of the year.
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You know, at least for us, here, in the Northern Hemisphere.
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And most of the Parts of the US, at least, you know, things are
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starting to warm up. Things are starting to think
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about, at least, moving towards Springtime weather.
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Although here in Middle Tennessee, At least by the time
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this podcast airs. We are looking at perhaps a
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pretty good, you know, strong cold snap coming through.
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I think the day is supposed to start out like up around, 70
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degrees Fahrenheit and by the time the evening rolls around,
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it's going to be dropping like 50 degrees with the chance of
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snow. So we ain't there yet, but, you
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know, earlier last week, and over the weekend, I think even
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had the air conditioning on, you know, and right now it's it's
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cold. It's rainy.
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So, definitely got to keep up on those vitamins in the the
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Vitameatavegamin. 'S and keep that immune system
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boosted, you know what I'm saying?
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Drink plenty of fluids vitamin C.
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Orange juice tea, Mead whiskey, whatever.
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Whatever it is that you like to sip on stay healthy out there
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actually got a pretty pretty cool show lined up actually a
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couple of good shows coming up. We've had some people either
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call into the you know hotline or L into the show and bring up
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some pretty neat things. So we're going to be hearing
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from Chad Nevada, Nevada, Nevada.
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I guess it depends on where you're from and who you ask, but
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you know that that Western State going to be hearing from him
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later on in the show and he's got a pretty good question.
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I think that was intended as this like a, you know, if you
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get a chance, you know, you want to call me or text me or talk
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about this, but I think it's a good topic to have, you know, up
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here for everybody. To listen to and to you know,
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share your thoughts about because I'm sure it impacts or
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something like it or exactly like it impacts a lot of
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families, a lot of different ways.
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So we're going to be hearing about that later on in the show
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but I did just want to kind of give you guys an update on a few
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things around here. Things going on here and in my
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area with our tribe. So has some of you may know the
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one of the major feasts or major, holy tides at that we
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know of historically. As as having been celebrated in
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ancient, you know, Germanic tribes, would celebrate, maybe
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not all of the Germanic tribes but in at least in the certain
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areas of is, was singer bloat. It was big with the swedes.
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I'm not mistaken. See, you could upload.
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It was like the the summer coming of Summer Victory.
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Blowed his Is is what it's historically referred to either
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the swedes of the Norwegians, have to look back at my sources.
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Again, drawing a blank on that one, but anyway, every year, our
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tribe for the last, like a couple years, I think this would
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be our second or third year, holding a cigarette boat thing
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at our go, these parents property, and we have typically,
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Had a big fire and and hold ritual and stuff around are Vey
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which is out there I guess said on dingoes parents property and
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this year. So every year we when we when we
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plan to do it we always go up there ahead of time a couple
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weeks prior at least and make sure that the grounds are
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prepared, right? Any wood that we need to cut
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mainly for like the fire because we always Always Source the wood
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off of the property, like we never just go by bundles of wood
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or whatever, like we literally go out there and cut wood from
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Deadfall. No, chainsaws.
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Just, you know, straight up like saws and axes, you know, the old
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old school way, so that's kind of become our like free ritual.
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Ritual will will go out there, and we'll prepare the land and
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scope things out, and make sure everything's in order and, and
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then, you know, in anticipation of the event.
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So, see, Your boat this year is in mid-april and you know, it
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varies a bit from year to year, of course, based off of the
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lunar cycle. But you know when the full moon
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hits on the Goa month so you know, go out on my own either.
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So with we are going out a couple of weeks prior to the
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event, we're actually going to be going up.
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I think this year it's April 16th.
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That is the first night of firsts.
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Low and we're going to be out there on that night like on the
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first night in April. So we're going up there a few
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weeks prior, we're going up there because at the end of this
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month and we're going to camp out overnight which we've never
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done. We've usually just gone up
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there. Spent the day, you know, doing
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our thing and you know, have a fire and maybe not even non.
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We usually yeah, sometimes we've had a fire think and then left.
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Left, you know, either that that night or the following day, or
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spent like spent the night at his parents house, you know.
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But this time we're going to go out there and we're going to do
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our thing and we're going to Camp the last time we camped up
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there was in November of last year.
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So it was like 28 degrees, great, great experience.
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It was it was more than just a camping trip.
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It was It was a Virtual Journey. So, you know, sleeping out in
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the cold, like that was invigorating.
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And so, of course, you know, end of March beginning close to the
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beginning of April, I suspect that we will be dealing with
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much milder temperatures probably a bit more comfortable
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for for camping out in and it's going to be, you know, me and
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Dingo and our last speaker Patrick and then dingoes
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daughter, it's going to be joining us as well.
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So we're going to You know, clearing the property, getting
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things ready for, you know, the actual ritual in, you know,
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later on in the month of April and have, you know, family time
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with dangle side of the family's daughter then at the end of the
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day. Sure, we'll have like a cookout
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or something. Usually do something along those
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lines and then camp out up there and just enjoy nature looking
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forward to that and I think that's going to be a really
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wholesome and important part of preparing for the singer blood
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ritual because it falls at the same this time he that that time
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of year or this year when it falls specifically is the same I
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think weekend or might even be the same day or within a day or
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two of dingoes parents wedding anniversary, you know, so
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celebrating that Celebrating the actual event, you know, sewer,
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blow, it's like it all lines up perfectly.
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It's, you know, it's a victory bloat and in traditional times
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when it was celebrated, it was, you know, to celebrate the
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victory for, you know, in in, in battle, or in combat, or in, you
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know, Victor through in growing good, crops for the year and all
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this other kinds of things. But it's, you know, for us,
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we're not going to Battle or anything like that.
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And and but like dingoes parents, his mom, especially
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does do some gardening and has herb gardens and things that she
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wants to have you know good crops for and then it's
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literally their wedding anniversary.
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So there we are celebrating multiple victories.
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This this this year. So got a lot to look forward to
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with that coming up in the spring.
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And I know that a lot of not just like Germanic heathens, but
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other pagans of other views of other world views of other
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polytheistic approaches to things are looking at this time
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of the year that we're going into around, you know, the
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Spring Equinox and, and all this looking at some of those other
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Celebrations, that happened in the springtime.
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It's a very refreshing time of the year, right?
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You know, we've spent the last x amount of months in a time of
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darkness and then the time of cold and in a time of you know,
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dormancy and isolation as it were, and Now those those those
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days are changing and we are seeing the rebirth of Yoda, the
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other Rebirth of the land, and the things that, you know, bring
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so much warmth and life are coming back to life.
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They are returning to us. And, you know, being a part of
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that cycle, living during that cycle.
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You know, puts a lot of things to me, or for me into into
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perspective. You know, when So much.
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Outside of the world and in the outside world is going on.
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I mean, looking at the state of things that the world that we
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are living right now, the state that the world is in is, you
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know, it's really depressing you start focusing on all of that
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stuff, you know, and it can really bring it down and I don't
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know. Like I've I found that kind of
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siphoning off certain things, filtering things out.
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Not having such a wide view of the world.
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I don't mean like you know, stay isolated and not pay attention
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to the major things that are happening.
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You obviously want to pay attention to what's going on.
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But to what extent does worrying about stuff, really do any good,
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you know, I'm not saying just let things happen and not care.
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But again it's a relative and it's all about the, you know,
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putting things into perspective, what I see happening close to me
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and my nearest and dearest is what I'm most concerned about.
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You know, we recently had an opportunity to help some people
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are tribe, you know, potentially help.
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Some people with a really major thing that they're experiencing.
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Like spiritually wise, you know what I'm saying?
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And and this this Aid that we were called to start it off with
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really just one person who is he's my brother man.
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I won't say nothing bad about the guy here.
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He's my brother, he's not Pagan, he's definitely not what we
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would consider Pagan but he's definitely the most Pagan non
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Pagan that I know or at least one of them might have him on
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the podcast one day. We've talked about it in, you
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know, a few different conversations.
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Where was I? When you going to have me on
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brother and I said when you want to come on you know and there's
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just been a lot going on in his life here, probably since
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October. I would say is when things
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really started to end of October beginning in November ever since
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then it's just it's just been a whirlwind for the guy so not
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sure when he'll be coming on but eventually I think we'll get him
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on here and it started with him coming to me saying somebody's
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looking for you. To help them with something and
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he gave me the spiel about you know, what the deal was.
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I'm not going to go into details about it yet and I'm just going
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to keep it pretty open-ended, but bottom line is, you know,
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when when, when he came to me about this, he was like I'm
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coming to you because when the guy that Went to my brother said
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that he wanted me. My brother Gene.
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He was like I got to bring this to my tribe, this isn't as
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something that I can speak on anyone's behalf, I need to go to
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My Tribe and he came to me and I can and I brought it in front of
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everybody else and then turns out you know we got a little
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get-together plan to lunch date as it were playing with us
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members of the tribe and this family and some of their close
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friends at least. Yeah.
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One of their close friends and probably Jean to to get to know
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them a little bit more. I know to the people that need
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the help that, you know, the one guy was asking for, it's a
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husband and wife in their family, like I've met them
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before one time. But that one, that one encounter
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that one meeting what, you know, sparked something to want to.
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Call out for help from somebody that you know they they felt was
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was trustworthy enough to provide that help and then when
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I say hey this is this is more than just me.
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You know, there's there's, I can only do so much, I'm going to
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need some some help with this myself, do you trust me to go
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into my tribe and talk about this?
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And they say yes it's like now the rest of the world's problems
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don't even matter as much, right?
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That because of the perspective of things have changed now.
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It's like now we have an opportunity to, you know,
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hopefully positively impact and influence a families.
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Life who have potential to be, you know, become part of our
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tribe and it's not something that we look to do like
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forcefully, right? Like we're not, this is not why
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we're doing it, we're doing it because we want to help and
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because they came to us me at first, but, you know, I look at
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it as an us thing, you know. They're, they're putting their
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trust into us to do a thing. And so, to prove that Worth to
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them and to and to allow Worth to be measured by these people.
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That's how worth is measured, right?
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It's not how much good. We know we do of ourselves
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that's how much, how much good we are, is put on us by other
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people. Worth is placed upon us by, by
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our people, and so it's like a were thing thing, you know,
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like, it's the thing to worth us and it gives us a lot of
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opportunity to strengthen our tribes luck.
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So that's what I look at. That's what I look at when all
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this other crap is going on in the world, you know, I I look at
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the things that are in front of me and around me and I go, huh.
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I got things to worry about here.
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Not like worry worry about, I mean like I have things to focus
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on. I have things that I should be
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putting my mind and focus and attention on.
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Not you know what's happened halfway across the world.
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And again, not not to make light of any of this of the terrible
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things that are going on around us.
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But okay, I hope, you know, you have one or two things you could
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do put all your focus and attention on all that and we're
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in about it and not being able to immediately do anything or
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you can recognize that it's their take, you know, note of it
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and do with it. That is that as a healthy
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measure. But then really look at.
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Okay. Okay, what is what is going on
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in front of me? But it On around me, what's
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happening? Close by that I can put my
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energy and focus into and do something good with it, you
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know. So, there's a little little
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thing that's that that luncheon dates happening, this weekend.
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This, this week that this podcast is airing, this
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Saturday, we're supposed to all be meeting up and having lunch
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together and get to know each other and coming up with a game
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plan on how we can help these people and do the thing.
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That they are asking to be done. So with all that and then, you
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know, preparing for Seger bloat coming up next month at the, you
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know, Bike by camping and preparing to land at the end of
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this month. So many cool things going on.
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That are about, you know, Community Building and try
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building and Worthing and all of the things that make up what I
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feel is at the, at the very root of heathen re, you know, at the
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heart of heathen re is the Home in the Hearth.
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And we're going to How to get into that here in just a minute.
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When we listen to this call from Chad, out in Nevada, that came
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in last week, or actually, I think this is a, this came in a
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couple of weeks ago, if I'm not mistaken.
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But yeah, you know the heart of heathen re is is sending the
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Hearth, the home, the family, but without a strong family,
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there's no real basis for an extension of family to be built
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upon. You know, I mean, when I said
20:14
before about you know, what we're doing as a tribe to help
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these people who are not part of our tribe will that ultimately
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determine you know that they become part of the tribe.
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Who I was like, again, it's not something that you force, it has
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to be something that is organic and we don't go into things
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looking to recruit people for lack of a better term.
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You know, where we're not out here, Middle Tennessee,
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flaunting anything to try and build up members.
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I mean, our our tribe as it is right now has Stayed in its
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number. Almost since the day it was
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announced that it's a thing. You know, there were that weird
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thing, not lost any members or anyone, you know, we haven't
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gained any either. So it's one of those things that
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I think is Cassie how, you know, got a when you first start
21:09
something, it started off nurture, it started start a
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slow, don't rush into things and don't try to just be like all of
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a sudden all we got have 25 people, minimum and whatever,
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right? Like if that's your network and
21:23
you have those resources to be able to Tap into and it becomes
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that thing and it's organic way, then great, you know, that
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wasn't our situation and to try and make it that situation just
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felt like we were or we would have been just pushing things a
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bit too hard and not allowing it to become the organic thing that
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it has and is today. So we'll see ultimate ultimately
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what we are doing. For is to help people who who
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ask for it. So and they seem like good
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enough people and, you know, friends of our tribe and or
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members of our tribes will definitely, probably be talking
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more about that. When, and as things progress, I
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will see as I know talking about this types of things, leave some
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juicy tidbits hanging around for later on to I'm back and say,
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what was that? What was that?
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What we talked about? Yeah, what's going on with that?
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Well, we'll see. You shall see.
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So yeah, secret blow. That's the camping, of course,
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that's coming up at the end of this month to get ready for all
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those things. Hope you guys are, are thinking
22:49
of ways to celebrate, you know, the return of the light with the
22:54
return of the warmth, the return of Sona return of Baldur.
22:59
Sometimes people will think of this time of year, as you know,
23:03
the Ragnarok cycle, We're Boulder returns and all this.
23:08
It's me. And now of course, other
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polytheistic faiths that, that have this cyclic, you know,
23:16
rebirth recycle. Motif for our belief system.
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You know how it comes back around all the time and there's
23:28
this that rebirth, hope you guys are looking forward to that.
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And coming up with things to celebrate and do with friends
23:36
family, maybe kindred's tribes covens, whatever.
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So I do want to do want us to listen to a call that came in.
23:49
Like I said before, this His name is Chad.
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Chad from Nevada. and, Think. Is that the one?
24:16
Now, that's tough. I think that's the one.
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But yeah, Chad from Nevada. See what he has to say.
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So get his call pulled up here. All right.
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Cool. Yeah here we go.
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Hey Jessie name's Chad. I'm out here in Gardnerville
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Nevada, man. I really appreciated and enjoyed
24:50
your podcast. Well, I work, you know, I'm a
24:53
piece off strumming, the patrol truck lat.
24:56
So, listen on there has been a great help and check it out.
24:59
Your you to Advantage really appreciate it.
25:02
Thank you, Chad or real quick and thank you for the job that
25:08
you have the the civil. Civil Duty that you're
25:12
performing as a peace officer out there.
25:15
So stay safe out in your patrols and thank you for what you do as
25:20
well. Hey, you got a couple questions
25:23
for you one. Hey, if you know anybody out
25:26
here in Nevada, I've been doing the Heathen walk for a couple
25:29
months now. And just really looking to try
25:31
and hook up with a group of some like-minded individuals and
25:36
obviously with coming from a law enforcement side needing to stay
25:39
away as far away from any of the crazies out there that do this
25:45
off our race and crap like that. So, I mean question.
25:49
Yeah. So Real quick before we go
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further gardeners, Gardnerville Gardnerville Nevada.
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So for all of our listeners and viewers to, if you're in, if
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you're in that area, Comment Down Below in the comment
26:06
section. Don't know how you get in touch
26:09
with Chad but Yeah, I guess put it down in the comment section
26:14
because this is, this is going to be up on YouTube, of course.
26:16
So, you know, Chad, if you're listening and watching, buddy,
26:19
check out the comments section to see if there's any anyone in
26:23
your area that might be checking in, or giving you some insight.
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I don't have any real Connections in Nevada.
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I have a couple of people that I know in California the Pacific
26:34
Northwest, you know? So that's the northern American
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Nordic Society or Nan's Mike. Check them out.
26:42
They may have some folks out there in that neck of the woods.
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But yeah, Gardner Gardnerville Nevada people or anywhere in
26:52
that surrounding area check in and let us know where you're at
26:57
is like I said, I've been doing this.
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I only been into it for a few months now.
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I've been doing studying for a few years kind of finally came
27:06
to a head last couple months, but my wife is still very very
27:11
devout Christian, very conservative Christian and
27:15
that's kind of how she have two kids Small kids.
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And that's how she's been pretty hardcore raising those kids, and
27:21
it's like, you're transitioning. This man, I just wanted to ask
27:25
you a few questions, love it. If you could kind of reach out
27:28
to me on my phone, All right, so I'm going to just skip to the
27:34
part where he's not revealing his phone number because I don't
27:38
want to put all that information out there for anybody to call
27:44
him. But let's just wanted to get
27:50
past that. That section but who, you know I
27:54
get it Chris or Chad, sorry. I get it.
27:56
The concern that you have or the or the question that you're
28:00
having with living in a home. That is a Opposing seemingly
28:07
right opposing religions or differing faiths it's definitely
28:12
something too. It's not uncommon.
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So I kind of wanted to put it out here on the, on the air.
28:19
But yeah, I just some questions about that and, you know, as you
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can kind of Imagine putting an altar in the house and doing
28:25
some of those things, just a lot of strife about and just tension
28:30
about going down this path because just how, you know, you
28:35
know, if you know, Conservative Christian Cafe, you know what
28:39
the Bible says? And how how its kind of played
28:42
out, it's kind of rough. So I was 12 You know, kind of
28:45
freaked out, and get some questions and see the azide.
28:48
Any ideas about smoother transitions?
28:50
Or or you know, how to broach the whole thing with, you know,
28:54
exposing it to the kids and you know, obviously I'm not going to
28:57
hide it from them but just trying to get a third-party
29:01
opinion, some other other folks ideas of that.
29:05
So anyways man, really appreciate it.
29:08
Thanks again for everything and I just hope you have a great
29:11
day, everyone later All right. Thank you Chad once again and
29:18
yeah so everybody you know? hopefully heard what Chad's
29:23
talking about this is this is not uncommon you know where
29:28
families of differing faiths I'm actually, you know, I'm going to
29:34
weigh in a little bit here right now, but I'm going to also be
29:36
providing some information in the description in the show.
29:39
Notes of this podcast for Content that I see you know
29:44
would always recommend from Eric shervin, Eric word, Weaver
29:47
shervin on the Raven's Claw has done.
29:49
I think a number of videos specifically on this because
29:51
this is really kind of his this is deafness Falls in his
29:55
wheelhouse, right? This is kind of his specialty.
29:57
It's what he's been gotten a higher education for right
30:00
psychology. Family, working with kids, that
30:05
kind of thing. And I mean he's got at least two
30:09
that I know of off. The top of my head, it's going
30:11
to be linked again in the description and show notes of
30:13
the podcast. But a couple of videos that he's
30:16
done on this very thing and I would highly recommend that you
30:22
go check it out but ultimately, you know, you talked about the,
30:27
you know, Imagining the difficulty. of living in a home
30:32
that is, you know, someone is so strictly devout in one way of
30:37
believing and as even extended that approach and belief to
30:42
their children, And again, I, you know, me speaking, I I come
30:54
from no place of experience with this because fortunately in my
30:58
Heathen beliefs, while my wife is not Christian by any means,
31:03
her family. And everybody on that side of
31:05
her family are as well as my side of the family.
31:08
And I've been effectively excommunicated from pretty much
31:13
everyone on my side of the family, nobody calls me.
31:18
I might get a Next on my birthday or something like that.
31:21
But this all this, all, all that dissolved last.
31:25
Last year, finally, it all just came to head where it was told
31:28
to me in, no, uncertain terms, that, you know, I'm possessed
31:30
and, and, you know, there's if I decide to change my ways, then
31:37
they'll talk to me, but, yeah, it was basically just told her
31:41
no under no uncertain terms, should I come and try to see
31:45
them or have contact with them? And so, So whatever.
31:49
Right? You gotta sometimes like that's
31:51
the way it goes, it becomes that much of a of an issue you know,
31:55
where you You lose part of your family members or at least they
32:02
choose to not do anything with you.
32:04
But on my wife's side of the family, nothing like that has
32:07
happened. Pretty much everybody knows that
32:11
I am not Christian. They may not know exactly what
32:14
my faith means or choose to want to educate themselves or be
32:17
educated, but they don't they don't pass judgment on me.
32:22
And by and large, they're decent and kind people, right?
32:26
My wife's parents, especially my father and mother-in-law.
32:30
Beautiful People. Wonderful human beings.
32:32
Love them to Absolute B. You know, we do anything for
32:37
them. And and a lot of her other
32:42
relatives, you know, cousins and aunts and uncles and whatnot.
32:45
Same way, you know, very, very strong belief in an abrahamic
32:50
God. Their Christian faith is very
32:53
important to them and they don't judge me for not believing the
32:58
same thing that they do. And they they've welcomed me
33:01
into their family. They've been accepting of me and
33:04
don't try to push their their stuff on me.
33:06
I mean, I've been raised. Christianity longer than I've
33:10
been Heathen. And it was a very very devout in
33:13
a very, very strict upbringing. So I know of all people I know
33:18
what it is that you're talking about when it comes to the kind
33:20
of conflict that can occur or the kind of rough patches and
33:25
difficulty that you have when you are dealing with that
33:28
amongst your family. But I can't really relate to is
33:32
what you're experiencing in, the sense of you're married, you
33:36
have children. And the person with whom you
33:39
share that much with is not on the same page as you with your
33:44
religion with your faith. Now, I will say and I will agree
33:48
with what Eric would say is that It's difficult to make work but
33:54
it can work where you have a household of opposing, faiths
34:00
drastically opposing me. I'm not talking about like you
34:03
know, Celtic Druid it and Hellenistic or Hellenic you know
34:09
paganism versus Germanic paganism, anything?
34:11
No, I'm talking about like straight-up opposites you know
34:15
Christian and Pagan opposite ends of the spectrum.
34:22
There are, there are in there. There, there, there can be
34:25
peaceful existence between the two in that sort of way, that it
34:30
all boils down to a mutual respect of each other, you know.
34:35
If you're asking, you know how to, you know, you talk about
34:43
transition, you know? Because I guess the kids are our
34:46
big concern or, you know, a big Focus for you in this whole
34:51
Endeavor, you It because they're being raised within Christian
34:54
beliefs and Christian values. Yeah, it's a huge thing.
34:56
When you start bringing children into a religion before their and
35:00
I don't know exactly how old your, your your children are.
35:05
I don't think we heard that from me.
35:07
But however, young they are, you know, you start.
35:13
It's okay to talk to kids about religion and Faith, you know, I
35:17
think that's fine. What I guess though is that when
35:23
they're especially Young you know, you say two small kids but
35:27
when they're especially young, they're so impressionable and
35:30
they're going to pick up on everything and and but they
35:32
don't even understand really the the meaning of religion, right?
35:37
And why it is that you believe it.
35:39
They're just believing it because you're telling them to
35:41
you know because you're the adult near the kids.
35:46
There has to come a time. I feel like they need to choose
35:48
for themselves and we as the adults and we as the the people
35:52
who are in care of them, should be the guides, you know, the
35:58
guiding forces for them. Allow them to choose and allow
36:03
them to decide on and we'll do. I want to believe this.
36:05
Do I want to believe that? Well are you not sure?
36:07
What do you want to know? How can I help teach you what
36:09
could I show you too? You know give you more
36:13
information to determine if this is something you want to figure
36:17
out right now the Christian views on that whole thing is
36:22
completely opposite. You know, they're going to say
36:24
no you need to train up a child in the way he should go and when
36:26
he is old, he will not depart from it.
36:29
You know, you the Christians will tell you that, you know,
36:31
that the rotten correction is is, is important in a child's
36:35
upbringing. You know, in the Christians will
36:38
tell you that you don't care for your child's Soul, you know, you
36:41
condemn them to hell. So it is your obligation as a
36:45
parent to bring them up in the ways of the Lord and all this.
36:49
You know, I get that and I understand where someone like
36:52
your wife is coming from to want to do that because they view the
36:55
world differently than we do. We have different World Views,
37:01
so at when you start bringing kids into the mix, it becomes
37:09
very, very challenging. I would say if almost near
37:12
impossible to, you know, reach an amicable place.
37:20
Now, anyone listening and watching comment down below
37:23
right into the show, midgard, musings Tian at gmail.com tweet
37:27
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37:29
know shared it on Facebook, whatever.
37:31
Just ask the question, what do you think?
37:35
Are there people listening and watching right now that are in,
37:38
is zinc? The same exact situation is Chad
37:42
that have made it work and what do you do again?
37:45
I think it goes back to the whole respect thing.
37:47
You know if you want respect or if your wife wants to respect,
37:52
once you to respect her wishes to practice Christianity, then
37:57
she should respect. Or desire to want to practice,
38:01
Heathen, re and have a place in your home to do.
38:04
So if that's what you want, you know, it doesn't have to be, you
38:07
know, you forcing anything. But if if if she's that far
38:11
committed to the fact that it's evil, it's against God.
38:14
It's wrong. It.
38:15
This is, this is, you know, going to You know, beguile our
38:20
children, or any sort of thoughts like that.
38:22
Then there's other bigger things that need to be worried about.
38:28
Because there's, there's no reasoning with that.
38:30
There's no getting that guy said to an amicable place when it's
38:34
that strict, and it's that far. You can attempt to reason with
38:38
them, like I did with my family over so many years.
38:40
I'm like, you know, look, I respect your decision to be
38:44
devout in your faith and I think it's wonderful that you are, I
38:47
won't if I'm You enough than respect me enough and they took
38:52
that and they said, yeah, we're fine, will will respect it away
38:56
from you and we don't want you anywhere near us.
38:58
We couldn't we could not coexist, you know, they could
39:03
not abide it and they would not put up with it and every time
39:07
that we had a conversation or whatever the the whole thing
39:10
would be like well you know if you were doing it this way, you
39:14
know, the answer, the of how you should be dealing with this but
39:17
since you're doing it another way, I then it doesn't, it
39:20
doesn't work and you're not going to, you know.
39:22
So there was this, this contention this is just constant
39:25
contention. That honestly this whole thing
39:31
that went down with the way my family did was a I'm going to
39:36
just say it was a long time coming.
39:37
You know, I held out for as long as I would and could hold out
39:42
and it wasn't me. That said we're done.
39:45
But I kept on, I kept trying. I was like we can do this guy's,
39:47
we can do this. It's, you know, we don't have to
39:51
be each other's enemies here, we can do this.
39:55
And I still feel that way but they don't and like I said,
40:00
sometimes that's just the way it goes and you know, so then at
40:04
that point you have a choice. You know how do you live?
40:08
Will you live with? Somebody who's not going to meet
40:16
you halfway. That's not going to cooperate,
40:19
not cooperate, but Lost the word, wow.
40:31
Hmm. They are not going to.
40:42
You ever have that happen, you ever have that happen where you
40:44
just, you know what the word is? You've use it, a hundred
40:47
thousand times in your life. And you know what, what it
40:55
means. But the word escapes you golly.
41:02
This is one of those times where I'm just literally sitting here
41:05
with my foot in my mouth. They are not willing to.
41:19
Well, here I am in front of all you people looking like a fool.
41:29
Compromise. There it is.
41:31
I knew I'd get it. They're not willing to
41:34
compromise. Why did I take me a minute?
41:38
Have to figure out if they're not willing to compromise.
41:41
What are you left with? You know, and, I don't know
41:50
nobody, nobody can really answer that.
41:53
I think for you, except you, because once again, with the
41:56
whole respecting and I mentioned earlier, when I was talking
42:00
about, you know, the roots of heathen reading than the heart
42:04
of heathen re being in the hearth.
42:08
Hearth, meaning the home. Without a strong home life
42:14
without a strong home unit Hearth without it without a
42:17
healthy heart. How can tribe even be thought
42:21
of? You know?
42:22
Because a tribe is an extension of family and family is not
42:25
strong. Then how can the tribe be strong
42:29
and in the family in the Hearth. There is trust.
42:34
There is respect, there is love. There is frith. and first means
42:42
a lot of those things, and it means more than those things to,
42:44
you know, there is that obligation to one another that
42:50
each other has become that each other have because of You know,
42:55
I mean, when I think of the person who I've tied the most
42:58
amount of weird with it's my wife.
43:04
I mean we've shared in literally almost everything together, you
43:11
know, physically spiritually emotionally.
43:16
You know, mentally psychologically we've literally
43:20
woven so many threads together that there is not one person on
43:24
this planet that I can think of right now that I am more
43:27
connected with and I am that. I have invested more of my you
43:33
know, luck into and, when you do that with someone when you
43:41
exchange that much, weird, and tie that much together with
43:45
someone, how are, you know, if you can't live amicably
43:52
together, You're doomed. You know, it's like you just got
44:00
to go in there and root it out. Dig it up from the roots and
44:02
start all over again. And I mean, who wants to do
44:04
that? So I get your in a very unique
44:07
situation, Chad, I would, I would definitely encourage you
44:11
to check out those videos out of posted in the description and
44:16
everybody else listening. Check out the show notes for
44:18
some of those videos from Eric shervin over at the Ravens call
44:22
and maybe get some more insight and offer our, you know,
44:24
everybody. Listen watching, please offer
44:26
your insights comment down below.
44:28
Right into the show. You know, share it to your
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Facebook's feeds or are tweeted on Twitter and at me, see your
44:38
back from the community and let's hear some random ramblings
44:41
from from the rest of everybody else.
44:44
I'd love to see what you all have to say about the situation.
44:48
Cuz I mean, again, I think that it can work but it's going to
44:51
require work on both of your parts, right?
44:54
It's you can't just be you being willing to do all the things
44:58
because if I were to put any Anyone anything?
45:01
I would say that, I'd put it on the fact that you are willing to
45:04
bend to the point of being nearly broken to see that this
45:09
works, right? And if your wife is not and
45:13
she's just stuck in the facts that, you know, there's nothing
45:17
right about you as a heathen and there's nothing that our kids
45:20
need to be involved in or whatever.
45:22
Like if there's absolutely no wiggle room there.
45:25
That's a whole other thing. That's another discussion, and
45:28
that's not something that I would be a feel comfortable in
45:33
getting involved in. That's a you thing, right?
45:38
But not my whole not, my call is another.
45:41
Eric shervin, when you watch his stuff, if you're not subscribed
45:45
to his channel, go through his video catalog, you will hear the
45:48
not my haul, not my call. Phrase used a lot in his video
45:54
catalog, And I loved it means me, makes perfect sense.
45:58
It's, you know, not my haul, not my call, it's not my chair, not
46:04
my problem that my house not my rules, right?
46:07
So, I hope everything does work out.
46:11
I hope that, you know, where you came from.
46:15
I'm not sure because you said you've been in this Heathen path
46:18
now for the last, you know, few months or so and looking for
46:21
people in the area to kind of connect with and Link with good
46:24
luck with it all true men, I mean, I mean that genuinely I
46:28
wish you the best and hope that you find a solid Community.
46:31
I hope that maybe this airing will will help connect You with
46:38
some people that's I mean that would be great.
46:44
Network a little bit. See what?
46:46
See what happens. I can't tell you how many times
46:49
I've encountered or been a part of conversations with people
46:54
that Met through this network, through midgard, musing
47:01
specifically, whether it was through the YouTube channel or
47:04
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47:16
the ways that they do through this platform and do this
47:19
network is has been pretty cool, you know, not something that I
47:23
thought would have would have happened, but it, but it has.
47:25
So I do wish you the best of luck and I wish you the best of
47:28
luck for your family. And that, you know, you can find
47:32
some some resolve to the whole thing and that it works well
47:36
for, for everybody. So, that'll do Today's Show, I
47:42
do have again another viewer request next week and the week
47:50
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47:55
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48:04
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