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Attack of the 2016 Oscar Nominees! · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 10: The live transmission has begun, and we're into the final
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  Speaker 10: hour of hell. What's up and welcome to Movie Mountdown's
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  Speaker 10: Attack of the Killers soundtrack. I am Brian.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 12: And I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 10: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 10: Grindel's House of Fun. That's what I called it last time.
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  Speaker 10: I think we went through several other options.
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  Speaker 7: No, it's the most fitting. This is her house. And
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  Speaker 7: it is fun.
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  Speaker 10: You're lucky she let you stay. Yeah. So we are
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  Speaker 10: back for another musical adventure. And again, I say it
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  Speaker 10: the last several years, it was like maybe the most
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  Speaker 10: functional episode we do because you always go blindly into
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  Speaker 10: the Academy Awards or most people. I guess there's a
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  Speaker 10: handful out there that actually like put effort into it
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  Speaker 10: and try to like do their research ahead of time.
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  Speaker 10: But I'd say most people get there the night of
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  Speaker 10: and go, oh, that got nominated. So much like, you know,
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  Speaker 10: when you, get the nominations for the best films and
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  Speaker 10: you're just like, oh, I guess I should make an
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  Speaker 10: effort to go see that. This way, you can knock
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  Speaker 10: out all of the song and score in one shot
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  Speaker 10: with this episode. We just line them up for you.
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  Speaker 10: You can actually experience all of them and then decide
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  Speaker 10: for yourself. And then it doesn't make any difference because
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  Speaker 10: the Academy votes for whatever the hell they want anyway.
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  Speaker 10: But at least you'll go in educated. Isn't that what
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  Speaker 10: it's all about?
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 7: And then you can be more angry about choices that
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  Speaker 7: you disagree with.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, we were going to be anyway, but angry,
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  Speaker 10: yelling at the TV. Isn't that what everybody does when.
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  Speaker 2: They watch this?
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  Speaker 12: That's what I do, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 10: We're starting with the one we're going to see a lot.
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  Speaker 7: La la.
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  Speaker 10: La la la la la. Yeah. We are going to
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  Speaker 10: go back and forth, so that way we can mix it.
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  Speaker 6: Up a little bit.
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  Speaker 10: We won't do tons of score all in a row.
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  Speaker 10: I figure we'll pepper in some singings along the way. So. First,
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  Speaker 10: we'll start with the first nominee here for Best Original Score.
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  Speaker 10: And it is the score for La La Land, which
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  Speaker 10: is composed and orchestrated by Justin Hurwitz. So this first
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  Speaker 10: track is me and Sebastian's theme. Parentheses, late for dinner.
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  Speaker 10: Close parentheses. Don't leave that shit open. And yeah, this
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  Speaker 10: is sort of one of the main themes. They're all
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  Speaker 10: kind of the main.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Amen.
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  Speaker 10: So I think my question is after listening to this
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  Speaker 10: song or any song, specifically this song is like, how
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  Speaker 10: does this not win the Oscar for best score really?
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  Speaker 10: Because number one, it's got that catchy little piano hook
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  Speaker 10: at the beginning, which is the theme and it kicks
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  Speaker 10: in throughout the overall score. But on top of that,
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  Speaker 10: it just becomes a big old school Hollywood musical midway
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  Speaker 10: into that song. And I'm like, this is what they love.
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  Speaker 10: Like this is them.
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  Speaker 7: It's like the old fashioned kind of score, like the
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  Speaker 7: big sweeping strings and clarinets and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 10: And like sort of, it's a weird mixture because it's
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  Speaker 10: very upbeat, but it's like through the entirety of that
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  Speaker 10: story and the score, there's this weird melancholy that runs
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  Speaker 10: through it. And that's kind of old time musicals too.
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  Speaker 10: It's like they had a lot of weird, sad aspects
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  Speaker 10: to them but they were still really singing and dancing
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  Speaker 10: and upbeat for no good reason sometimes so i don't
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  Speaker 10: know i think it's a nice mixture of the old
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  Speaker 10: school hollywood stuff and i feel like much.
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  Speaker 7: Like yeah but it's not like super cheerful all.
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  Speaker 10: The time no yeah i think overall it's not at
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  Speaker 10: all like i feel like the stuff that works best
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  Speaker 10: and we'll get to that in song too is just
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  Speaker 10: like the the stuff that is a little more melancholy
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  Speaker 10: and i think that To me, that totally tips the
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  Speaker 10: scales as you watch the movie. It all is a
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  Speaker 10: little sad and overwhelmed with regret and choices not taken.
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  Speaker 10: I think all that comes through even in just the
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  Speaker 10: musical track. It's a good representation of the movie. It's
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  Speaker 10: so old school Hollywood, much like the nominations. They love
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  Speaker 10: this kind of movie. They love their own. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Themselves.
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  Speaker 10: So like they want to do old school Hollywood stuff.
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  Speaker 10: And this is like definitely steps up to the plate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: I definitely felt that when I heard the song. This
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  Speaker 12: is the nice almost like in a West Side Story.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Type tradition. And it's a good way to start it off.
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  Speaker 10: It just is a perfect representation of what they want.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 10: And it will be surprising if it goes to anything else.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 7: I won't be terribly surprised. I mean, coming from an
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  Speaker 7: originality perspective, I think some of the other scores that
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  Speaker 7: we'll be talking about.
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  Speaker 10: I have my.
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  Speaker 7: It's not that I think that they're not going to
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  Speaker 7: choose this score. I'm sure that they're going to choose
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  Speaker 7: this score.
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  Speaker 14: More than likely.
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  Speaker 7: But if they go for a more creative choice... There's
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  Speaker 7: definitely one.
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  Speaker 10: A big one in there. Two of the other ones, I.
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  Speaker 7: Were actually moving, and I was like, wow, this composer
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  Speaker 7: went all out trying to make this not only emotionally
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  Speaker 7: evocative and fitting for the movie, but yeah, something that
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  Speaker 7: we haven't heard before.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I just let people at home know, that's specifically
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  Speaker 10: why you're on board for this one. You're both here
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  Speaker 10: because you're both musically inclined anyway. But specifically, Jacqueline has
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  Speaker 10: written a score herself for a movie meltdown event, I
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  Speaker 10: might add.
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  Speaker 7: That's the truth.
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  Speaker 10: And you have some sort of classical training, you're claiming.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Sucker.
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  Speaker 7: Classically trained musician, plus my mother is a cellist in
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  Speaker 7: the orchestra. My brother is- On purpose. Yeah, he has
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  Speaker 7: his master's in violin performance.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: Blah, blah, blah. My grandmother was the first opera singer
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  Speaker 7: in the Kentucky Opera House.
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  Speaker 11: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: You know. Lame.
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  Speaker 10: These are all lame accomplishments.
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  Speaker 7: I know some things about some stuff. Well, that's not me.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm classically trained, but I'm not a professional musician.
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  Speaker 10: You just hang out here with Grendel. You're not doing enough.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on. That's true. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to.
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  Speaker 10: Have to put you to work. But, yeah, I thought
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  Speaker 10: at least bringing in people who know music. I just
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  Speaker 10: line things up and yammer on about them. But I thought,
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  Speaker 10: you know, to at least round things out, you guys
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  Speaker 10: both know music, well, more than I.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I would have gone that route, but my
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  Speaker 7: mother was like, no, don't, do not.
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  Speaker 10: I hate my wife.
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  Speaker 7: I take piano lessons for like 14 years, and I
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  Speaker 7: was thinking about it, and she was like, don't do it.
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  Speaker 7: Do not do it.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, okay.
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  Speaker 10: But you could be at a cool bar with dueling pianos.
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  Speaker 10: Think about how cool that would be. There's the life
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  Speaker 10: for you.
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  Speaker 7: I could have someone singing on top of my piano.
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  Speaker 10: Drunk people throwing things at you. Come on, man.
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  Speaker 7: People putting a few pennies in my tip jar.
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  Speaker 10: I wouldn't get that out of my control.
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  Speaker 7: Requesting Freebird on the piano.
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  Speaker 10: That is a classic.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: All right.
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  Speaker 10: So to jump over to the song category, the first
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  Speaker 10: entry in our songs, we're going with Can't Stop the
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  Speaker 10: Feeling from Trolls, sung by our friend, Mr. Justin Timmer.
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  Speaker 10: Do you really think I can be happy?
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  Speaker 15: Of course.
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  Speaker 10: It's inside you.
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  Speaker 3: It's inside of all of us. And I don't think it.
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  Speaker 3: I feel it.
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  Speaker 10: I got this feeling inside my bones. It goes electric wavy.
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  Speaker 3: When I turn it on.
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  Speaker 7: And if you want it inside your soul.
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  Speaker 10: Just open up your heart, let music take control.
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  Speaker 9: I got that sunshine in my pocket.
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  Speaker 10: Got that good soul in my feet.
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  Speaker 9: I feel that hot blood in my body when it drops.
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  Speaker 16: Ooh, I can't take my eyes off of it.
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  Speaker 6: Moving so phenomenally.
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  Speaker 10: The room unlocked the way we rock it.
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  Speaker 2: So don't stop.
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  Speaker 16: Under the lights when everything goes. Nowhere to hide when
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  Speaker 16: I'm getting you close.
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  Speaker 2: Stop.
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  Speaker 17: When we move, well, you already know.
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  Speaker 2: So just imagine.
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  Speaker 6: Nothing I can see but you.
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  Speaker 2: When you dance, dance, dance. Feel the good, good creeping
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  Speaker 2: up on you.
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  Speaker 6: So just dance, dance, dance.
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  Speaker 15: Come on.
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  Speaker 10: So this one, I didn't know was a song from
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  Speaker 10: a movie.
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  Speaker 12: I didn't either.
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  Speaker 10: Like, I've spent the entire year listening to it. It
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  Speaker 10: got a ton of radio play. And I was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 10: this is... Now, I do remember hearing that he was
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  Speaker 10: involved in Trolls, and I went, oh, really, Justin? But
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  Speaker 10: I was like, dude, all right, whatever. You got a
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  Speaker 10: house to pay for.
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  Speaker 14: I get it.
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  Speaker 10: But I'm just... Yeah, I don't think until the nominations
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  Speaker 10: came out, I went, oh, that's how he was connected
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  Speaker 10: to this.
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  Speaker 2: And they.
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  Speaker 10: Put that out as a single out in the real world,
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  Speaker 10: maybe more, I mean, I bet that got way more
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  Speaker 10: interest than the movie did. Yeah. Because I don't know
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  Speaker 10: anybody who's seen Trolls.
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  Speaker 18: Nope.
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  Speaker 10: And I haven't heard good things from the internets. I've
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  Speaker 10: heard marginal, like I think everybody, the best I heard
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  Speaker 10: was kind of like, it's not as bad as I expected.
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  Speaker 7: Not as bad as I expected.
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  Speaker 10: I expected to hate it, and it was all right.
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  Speaker 12: That's like the song itself. It's not bad, but it's
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  Speaker 12: not great.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's pretty damn good. Again, I'm a sucker
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  Speaker 10: for cheesy pop. So like to me, I think there's
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  Speaker 10: an art form to writing pop music and like Justin's
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  Speaker 10: always been good at it. Like, I mean like everything
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  Speaker 10: he's done, even, even with the band, but I'm like
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  Speaker 10: everything solo he's done is like very old school. Like
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  Speaker 10: in the, in you can, that first single of his
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  Speaker 10: by himself, you can tell how much he grew up
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  Speaker 10: on Michael Jackson. So it's like he's taking from the
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  Speaker 10: greats of the last generation and he's sort of honed
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  Speaker 10: that as time's gone on. And I see these new
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  Speaker 10: singles come out and even if I don't love them,
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  Speaker 10: I'm just like, damn, it's good. It's well put together.
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  Speaker 10: He is a professional now at doing that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 10: So no surprise that studios are like, hey, we've got
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  Speaker 10: this cheesy animated movie and we need somebody to add
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  Speaker 10: some music to it. So I can see why... They're
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  Speaker 10: approaching him, but I don't know. What are your takes
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  Speaker 10: on it?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's a cool little pop song. I don't
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  Speaker 7: think it's a good Justin Timberlake song at all. I
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  Speaker 7: was like, cool, there's kind of a very muted, funky
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  Speaker 7: bass line that you can't really hear, and that's probably
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  Speaker 7: the coolest part of the song. But yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 7: a good... I was like, he doesn't usually make boring
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  Speaker 7: pop songs, but that was a boring pop song.
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  Speaker 12: As far as Oscar-worthy... pop songs go, I don't think
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  Speaker 12: it holds up to, like, a lot of the other
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  Speaker 12: ones that have gone before.
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  Speaker 10: I can see it getting thrown in there. Do I
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  Speaker 10: think it holds up to, like, the winners?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 10: Or even the more memorable ones that have come along
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  Speaker 10: over the years? Eh, probably not. It is one of those, like,
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  Speaker 10: in a year or two, I bet everyone will forget
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  Speaker 10: that this got nominated, and so... It's just something else
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  Speaker 10: to add to the mix. I will say in his defense,
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  Speaker 10: are you okay?
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  Speaker 7: The thought of it actually winning just made me laugh.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, Eminem has an Oscar. Bruce Springsteen has an Oscar.
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  Speaker 10: These guys that used to just be rock and roll
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  Speaker 10: dorks and rap guys that were already kind of going
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  Speaker 10: against the grain. Every once in a while, the Oscars
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  Speaker 10: are like, no, we want to be cool. We want
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  Speaker 10: to throw one at somebody popular. So, I mean, People
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  Speaker 10: love Justin.
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  Speaker 7: People do love Justin.
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  Speaker 10: But I was going to say, as far as it
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  Speaker 10: being different than some of his other stuff, it is
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  Speaker 10: co-written by two other people. So maybe they're dragging him down.
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  Speaker 7: They're dragging him down.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's written by Justin Timberlake, Max Martin, and Carl
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  Speaker 10: Johan Schuster. So, way to go, you two guys.
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  Speaker 12: I have no idea who those guys are.
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  Speaker 10: Dragging him down. They have not been nominated. I checked,
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  Speaker 10: because I was like, are the other guys like the
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  Speaker 10: Oscar end of it that he brought in and- None
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  Speaker 10: of them have been nominated before, so I think they
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  Speaker 10: just went the pop route this time around. All right,
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  Speaker 10: so next back to score. To me, this is the
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  Speaker 10: one that is like, wow, this got nominated? This is
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  Speaker 10: the score for Jackie. So first off, I'm like, I
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  Speaker 10: don't know. am shocked that this type of movie, and granted,
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  Speaker 10: I haven't even seen it yet, but I'm just sort
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  Speaker 10: of a biopic with a very recognizable actress attached, and
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  Speaker 10: I've heard it doesn't take the normal route of a
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  Speaker 10: cheesy biopic, so that's a little more promising, but still,
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  Speaker 10: to be a relatively well-financed studio release, I'm like, Mika
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  Speaker 10: Levy is a weird choice. It made sense when you're
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  Speaker 10: doing a weird alien movie, because she's under the skin
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  Speaker 10: and it's amazing but that's the kind of movie that
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  Speaker 10: is like that didn't surprise me and then like i
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  Speaker 10: saw she was attached to jackie and i was just
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  Speaker 10: like what what i think.
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  Speaker 18: It makes sense i think it's great but i'm just
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  Speaker 18: like i can't believe she got that again i think
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  Speaker 18: that's to the director's credit because he wanted to have
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  Speaker 18: that weird tone to it and he wanted to Again,
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  Speaker 18: because it's centered on her and not Kennedy, he wanted
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  Speaker 18: to get a female perspective even on the musical score.
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  Speaker 10: So it's like everything was sort of, yeah, like very
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  Speaker 10: tailored to fit that.
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  Speaker 12: The intro song, though, when it first started playing, I
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  Speaker 12: was like, okay, this is interesting. It's got a nice
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  Speaker 12: dreamy quality to it.
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  Speaker 10: And weird right off the bat.
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  Speaker 19: Very weird.
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  Speaker 10: Changing keys.
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  Speaker 12: But it doesn't really go anywhere. I mean, it kind
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  Speaker 12: of builds. And yeah, there's the key changes and it's
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  Speaker 12: like there's some layering going on. but there's no real
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  Speaker 12: movements to the song it's just the same thing over.
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  Speaker 10: And over which again is not too far off from
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  Speaker 10: i think it worked a little better for under the
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  Speaker 10: skin but again i feel like there was more to
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  Speaker 10: that and it changes from song to song like there's
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  Speaker 10: some pretty minimal stuff in under the skin and i
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  Speaker 10: think this has that same thing i think maybe it
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  Speaker 10: just depending on where you land in the score there's
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  Speaker 10: more to work with but yeah that's kind of why
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  Speaker 10: like We start off with the intro there, and it's
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  Speaker 10: like that one is so short and so minimal that
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  Speaker 10: I'm like, that at least gives you the kind of
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  Speaker 10: tone of what we're dealing with. So I wanted to
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  Speaker 10: throw that in. Once in a while, I want to
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  Speaker 10: throw a little extra piece in. So this other one
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  Speaker 10: is the other song from Children, which kind of gives
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  Speaker 10: you a little different take on what she's doing here.
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  Speaker 5: © transcript Emily.
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  Speaker 3: Beynon This was one of my favorite scores overall, period.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's the most interesting, at least, if not
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  Speaker 10: the most impressive.
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  Speaker 7: Just the way that it melts in and out of
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  Speaker 7: these different just tones like these different feelings and they
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  Speaker 7: she never really neglects instruments like i can hear um
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: that she's really utilizing the entire orchestra for like various
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: specific um like timbres and emotions that she's trying to
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: uh get through and for jackie i think it's it's
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: very good i think it's a perfect choice like having
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: this like your world has just been you know, shaken.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: And this is just setting the tone for this kind
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: of like nauseating, like the way that the key changes,
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: like it like makes you feel uneasy and nauseous. Like
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: you would be if your husband was just shut.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: It still feels very otherworldly. And then I was like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: actually that, fits again it'd be different if this was
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: another tie to a weird president or some sort of
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: boring you know if you're if this was the score
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: to lincoln it'd be really weird granted another guy got
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: shot but i'm just like there's so much like weirdness
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: around the kennedy assassination and everything that came after it
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: that i'm like it already has its own otherworldly little
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: element to the weird like conspiracies and everything that's popped
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: up around it so i'm like i feel like it
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: doesn't heard it from that angle. I think it kind
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: of matches that idea of just like everything about what
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: went on that day is weird and doesn't make sense.
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: So here's a score that kind of matches.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: I think I'm also biased towards this score because it
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: uses so much cello and bass.
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: And you hate those.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. I hate them so much that I love them.
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: I think my big complaint about those two songs was
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: not having seen the movie, I'm not really sure how
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: it would fit in. Um, but at the same time, I,
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: I feel like when something's of this caliber, if it's,
• 23:14
  Speaker 12: if it's Oscar worthy, that it's almost like it should
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: stand on its own two feet.
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: I have that comment about a song later.
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: Right. As a couple of these songs.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: I feel that way about, and I don't know. It's
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: not that it's bad.
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: It's just, again, is it, Does it work on its own?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: Does it work on its own?
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: I don't think... I mean, scores are inherently not supposed
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: to stand up on their own.
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: We've had that question before.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: Scores are written for the film.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: They're written to be.
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: Is it incomplete without watching the movie?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: But at the same time, I mean, there are plenty
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: of people, myself included, that buy the score and sit
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: and listen to the score doing your own thing or...
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: driving around or you're out in the world. So you're
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: taking it out of context already.
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: And there are some movies where when you take it
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: out of context, like, it still is good listening. Like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: you know, there will be blood, like, that entire score. Like,
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: holy crap. Like, I would listen to that every day
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: of the week. But I think it's like, but Jackie,
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: you don't want to be listening to, you don't want
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: that vibe when you're just hanging out.
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: Cranking down the windows, rolling down the street with some
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: Jackie score cranked up. Take that, person next to me
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: with Justin blaring out the windows. Can't fight this feeling.
• 24:32
  Speaker 16: Hey, this is Tiffany, and.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: Well, I love the movies. Welcome to the biggest movie
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: event of the year.
• 25:13
  Speaker 20: We're going to have a great night, ladies and gentlemen.
• 25:17
  Speaker 17: And the Oscar goes to.
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: Nick Ledger.
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Ladies and.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Gentlemen, Prepare yourselves. It's time for the Movie Meltdown Oscar
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Mayer Party. With all the blitz, glamour, poor products, and
• 25:34
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• 25:38
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• 25:41
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• 25:42
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• 25:47
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• 25:58
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: So next up, we're back to the songs. And this one,
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: I already kind of used that, but we'll get to
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: my description for this one in a minute. This is
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: The Empty Chair from Jim, The James Foley Story, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: the music and lyric by J. Ralph and Sting. very
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: obviously right now.
• 26:52
  Speaker 21: If I should close my eyes, that my soul can see.
• 26:59
  Speaker 21: There's a place at the table that you saved for me.
• 27:05
  Speaker 21: So many thousand miles, oh.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Land and sea.
• 27:10
  Speaker 21: I hope today.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: That you hear my prayer.
• 27:19
  Speaker 21: Somehow I'll be there It's but a concrete floor Where.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: My head will lay.
• 27:33
  Speaker 21: And though the walls of this prison Are as cold
• 27:37
  Speaker 21: as clay But there's a shaft of light Where.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: I count my days So don't despair Of the empty
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: chair And somehow.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: I'll be there.
• 28:01
  Speaker 21: Some days I'm strong Some days I'm weak On days
• 28:08
  Speaker 21: when I'm broken I can barely speak That place in
• 28:14
  Speaker 21: my head Where my thoughts still roam Somehow I've come
• 28:23
  Speaker 21: home And when the winter comes And the.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Trees lie bare.
• 28:33
  Speaker 21: And you just stare out the window In the darkness
• 28:37
  Speaker 21: there Well I was always late.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: For every meal you'll swear.
• 28:46
  Speaker 19: But keep my.
• 28:47
  Speaker 21: Place the empty chair.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: And somehow.
• 28:57
  Speaker 21: I'll be there.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: And somehow.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I'll be there.
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: I had high hopes for this one when I found
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: out it was by Sting but it just it was.
• 29:20
  Speaker 22: Boring it was so boring this to me like as
• 29:24
  Speaker 22: soon as it started i was like i feel like
• 29:27
  Speaker 22: this song was created specifically to be performed on the
• 29:31
  Speaker 22: oscar telecast.
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: Like like it was almost conceived as he sat down
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: in front of the audience and went all right because
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: i can already see it in my head. I can
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: already picture Sting on stage and the lighting they're going
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: to use and the way they move the camera. I
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: already have this entire vision in my head, and I
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: feel like that's exactly what it was created for because
• 29:55
  Speaker 10: this was one of those I was like, it's all right.
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: It's a decent song. but I don't feel like it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: solid in any other way.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: I feel like it just- It almost sounds fake.
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: It's almost like a fictional song made up for a
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: fictional movie to make some sort of point about the
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: Oscars and weird- Again, I'm trying to decide if it
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: has more weight because I haven't seen the movie again.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: I'm like, it's a pretty serious movie topic-wise. So I'm like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: maybe it brings a little more weight to it if
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: you've just come out of the movie and this kicks
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: in when the credits are rolling. But again, on its own.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: And that's what I was thinking earlier. This was one
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: of the ones I had that written down. I was like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: I feel like if it's a good song, regardless of
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: whether you've seen the movie, it should stand on its own.
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: It should just be a good song. Even if it had...
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: Because I was going with older ones. I'm like, there
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: are some that are so inherent to their... property that
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: like they're singing about things that happen in a movie
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: and sometimes that's fine like sometimes that you come out
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: of it and like you don't even realize that anymore
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: like you don't even think about what exactly they're singing
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: in context with the movie it like it takes on
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: its own little life as a separate song and i
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: feel like this one i don't i don't really get
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: that from but.
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: I do agree with you about the whole written for
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: the oscar performance thing because in a way, I mean,
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: it kind of reminds me, and you mentioned Springsteen earlier.
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: It doesn't sound like the, was it Streets of Philadelphia?
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 17: It doesn't sound like that, which, yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 12: Great song.
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: It's a great song. And not really, that's why, like
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: at the time, I remember being in shock when he
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: came out with that song and when he won because
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: he was still like, born in the usa to me
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: like sure it's funny now like since that point almost
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: he's gotten more and more that that kind of is
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: his sound now but like that was sort of that
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: dividing line in the springsteen arc because everything before that
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: was i remember i didn't like any of that 80s
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: stuff that he became so popular for but like now
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: looking at his later stuff in life i kind of
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: like a lot of that so i'm like that that
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: i felt like was and maybe it was him stepping
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: up for like The studio came to me. This is
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: a serious subject. I want to write a good song.
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: So it's like maybe he just stepped up and took
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: it in that direction he'd been wanting to go anyway.
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: But I kind of feel now that you've mentioned that
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: I can kind of see Sting saying, okay, this worked
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: when Springsteen did it. Let's see if I can do
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: the same thing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: Sting's weird for me. It's like I think he got...
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: again like kind of like what i said with justin
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: like i i think he got very polished after he
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: had his band but i really don't respond to almost
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: anything he's done i think there's two or three like
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: really well written songs from his solo career but i
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: just don't respond to it where if like old police
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: stuff comes on the radio i'm just like damn this
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: is a good song and i'm like.
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: He just put out a really good rock.
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: Album yeah so i've heard like the one single i
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: haven't heard anything else yet i.
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: Mean i've heard four or five tracks off of it
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: but it's all It's all high-quality stuff, high-caliber, up-tempo. So
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: I was kind of expecting that when I saw Sting.
• 33:10
  Speaker 12: I thought, okay, cool, he's in this phase again. Maybe
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: that's what this song is going to be like. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: then it just completely, for me, just completely fell flat.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going to be this serious movie, and this
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: is a serious song from when I read the lyrics,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: and it sounds somber, but it doesn't make you feel somber.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it doesn't. Again, it feels like he came from
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: the outside and went, I need something that kind of
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: fits this.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: It's like a robot making a sad song.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: But I mean, you look at like, that's since we
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: kept throwing out that example, like Streets of Philadelphia, like
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: you feel like, oh no, he got it. Like he
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: got what's going on in the song. It's a minimal
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: amount of lyrics, but he just kind of nails like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: oh yeah, this is, this is messed up. And this
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: guy and everything he's going through is horrible where this
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: just feels like I wrote a song to end up
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: on the Oscars. No offense, but that, To me, that's
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: just how it read the first time I heard it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: So next on the score list, we're going with this
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: track from Lion. This is the main theme, A Long
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: Way Home, and it is by Dustin O'Halloran and Hauschka.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Piano plays.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Softly I love you.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So so Thank you.
• 36:06
  Speaker 12: I will admit, I did not make it all the
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: way through that song.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: I kind of skimmed through it a bit. It seems
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: like it's kind of a, if you're talking about scores
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: that don't really go anywhere, this one, I mean, it
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: does a theme and variation. It's got, you know, it's
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: cool that it has this kind of percussive harp and
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: strings and things going on, but Yeah, it just kind
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: of goes and takes the same thing.
• 36:31
  Speaker 12: I got about four minutes into it, and I was like,
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: how much longer do we have left? And I checked
• 36:37
  Speaker 12: the time.
• 36:37
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I checked the time.
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: There's 13 more minutes left.
• 36:40
  Speaker 17: I'm like, I can't.
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: I won't do it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I refuse. I won't do it. And that's why
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: we skipped out on it midway, too.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: It was fine.
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: It was at least giving you a sample of it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: Long Way Home is a fitting title.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: It's a very long way to the end of the song.
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know that everybody wanted to go through
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: the entirety of that. So that just gave you a
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: sample of what you're dealing with.
• 37:02
  Speaker 17: Well, what are they showing on the screen for those
• 37:04
  Speaker 17: 17 minutes?
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: That's what I want to know, yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: Is it the end credits? Lots and lots of credits.
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: Although this was not a whole lot of special effects,
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: I'm guessing, so. I don't know where all the credits
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: are going on this one. I feel like this was
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: the one that felt the most familiar to me, but
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: almost like I've heard this before. Right, that's why it
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: seems familiar. Well, I mean, in other bands, and not
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: specifically like, oh, you stole this from this other track.
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: I mean, bits and pieces of it from different music
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: and different types of music, and it all just kind
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: of comes together, and it works sort of as its
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: own thing, if you don't know any better, but I
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: kept going through going, I'm not even pinning down exactly
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: what it is, but I feel like I've heard all
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: these bits and pieces in other things before.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: I think it's a very basic, very basic score.
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: And I feel like it's not doing anything different. Like
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: you can take those ideas from other things and turn
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: it into something better. And I don't feel like it
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: really steps up and does that either.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: It just does it for a longer.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: So I don't know. That was about the only thing
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: I took. I was like, I don't think this is bad.
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: It just feels familiar and doesn't seem like it's willing
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: to do anything extra with it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 17: And, you know, familiar is not always bad.
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: No.
• 38:20
  Speaker 12: But when you're talking, you know, Oscar worthy, it's not
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: always a good thing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: Especially when Sia had a song on this album, too.
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: That was like, I guess, their big name that they
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: brought in. I don't know if. I don't know if
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: it was created specifically. That's why I was trying to
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: look into it earlier and see if maybe it was disqualified.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: Because usually if you, again, much like the Sting one,
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: if you bring in a name on your soundtrack, half
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: the time it's you're hoping to end up with a nomination.
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: So it's like a lot of times that pans out
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: because there aren't a whole lot of options to go
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: with before the year's out. So them bringing in a
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: big name and I was listening to hers and it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: a pretty good song. All of her stuff is pretty interesting.
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I was kind of surprised that that didn't
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: end up on the song list. category but i don't
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: know maybe there's a weird disqualification they like to disqualify
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: a lot of stuff so but yeah i thought that
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: was interesting too that they also brought in a recognizable
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: semi-pop star that like you know to bring in on
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: the same soundtrack so all right so returning to our
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: favorite of the the one that's taking over the show
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: whether we like it or not this would be song
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: wise this is our nomination number one for La La
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: Land this is Audition The Fools Who Dream it's written
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: by Justin Hurwitz and is featuring lyrics by Benji Pask
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: if I'm pronouncing it right Paskay Well, I was more because.
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: I'm not really sure.
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: Because I was like, is it binge or binge?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 11: Binge.
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: Binge. And I'm not trying to make fun of the guy.
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: I really just don't know how you say that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: I wish this was just, they make it so difficult.
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: Everybody just needs boring names. Is that too much? And
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: Justin Paul. See, I can pronounce Justin.
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: Justin Paul.
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: Makes it a lot easier. Just be like Justin.
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: Unless he calls himself Justine.
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: Justine Paul. Pauline. More importantly, it's all being sung by
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: Emma Stone. Who cares about the rest?
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: My aunt used to live in Paris. I remember she
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: used to come home and she would tell us stories
• 40:29
  Speaker 15: about being abroad. And I remember she told us that
• 40:36
  Speaker 15: she jumped into the river once.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Barefoot.
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: She smiled.
• 40:47
  Speaker 21: Laughed.
• 40:49
  Speaker 19: Without looking And tumbled into.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: The sand.
• 41:04
  Speaker 19: The water was freezing She spent a month sneezing But
• 41:13
  Speaker 19: said she would do it again Here's to the ones
• 41:23
  Speaker 19: who dream Foolish as they may seem Here's to the
• 41:37
  Speaker 19: hearts that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: Ache Here's to.
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: The mess we make.
• 41:51
  Speaker 19: She captured a feeling, sky with no ceiling, the sunset
• 41:58
  Speaker 19: inside a frame. She lived in her liquor and died
• 42:07
  Speaker 19: with a flicker.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: I'll always remember the flame. Here's to the ones who
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: dream Foolish as they may seem Here's to the hearts
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: that ache Here's to the mess we make She told
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: me A bit of madness is key To give us
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: new colors to see Who knows where it will.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Lead The ripples from pebbles The painters and poets.
• 43:09
  Speaker 16: And plays And here's to the fools who.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: Dream Crazy as they may seem Here's to the hearts
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: that break Here's to the mess we.
• 43:31
  Speaker 16: Make I trace it all back to then her and
• 43:47
  Speaker 16: the snow and the.
• 43:50
  Speaker 19: Sand smiling through it.
• 43:59
  Speaker 16: She said She'd.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Do it again.
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: Did you guys see La La Land?
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: I have not seen it.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen it yet.
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: I did just recently just kind of because I wanted
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: to see and I still wanted to see it on
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: the big screen-ish. Not that they're all huge. They've downsized
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: so much now. But still, just in a theater I
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: wanted to try to experience it because I feel like
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: that's how those things should probably work. And again, I
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: think that's my takeaway that that becomes what sort of
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: saves it for me and not that it was ever
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: even in danger of being bad it's just like it
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: was sort of midway through I'm just like it's fine
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: it's just sort of a a normal like trying to
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: revitalize the musical in in modern day which is hard
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: to do in LA which is harder to do so
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: it's like it doesn't fit the way that, you know,
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: a musical is supposed to go. So they're sort of
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: shoving it into the 21st century, into the new way
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: that we're trying to do these things. And I'm like,
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: it's fine along those, along that path. It's fine. And
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: then like, by the end, I'm like, it gets a
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: little more impressive as far as what it needs to
• 45:15
  Speaker 10: deliver because I, and so much of it, and maybe
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: I'm just biased because I really like Emma Stone, but
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: I'm like, I feel like so much of it is
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: channeled through Emma Stone because it's, Not only is she
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: ridiculously likable, and I feel like, I feel like this
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: a lot, but especially in this movie, Ryan Gosling's kind.
• 45:33
  Speaker 20: Of a jerk.
• 45:35
  Speaker 10: He's really, I mean, by the end, you're like, okay,
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: he's not a horrible guy. He's all right.
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: He's a good guy.
• 45:41
  Speaker 10: He's not a likable guy, but eventually he proves himself
• 45:44
  Speaker 10: that he's a good guy, but Emma's always just like, again,
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: I think she kind of gets it in a way
• 45:52
  Speaker 10: that Maybe even Ryan didn't. And I think by the end,
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: he delivers a good performance. But I think so much
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: of what comes through with her is just not overly showy,
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: which in a big production musical is probably hard to
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: not dial it up to that point.
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: Well, like somebody that's, I mean, because she's still fairly young.
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 12: You know, her vocal performance was really good. And excuse me,
• 46:16
  Speaker 12: it wasn't over the top. It wasn't. didn't feel like
• 46:19
  Speaker 12: it was lacking anything. I mean, she handled it quite well.
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: It's to me. And again, especially on this song, maybe
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: even more than the rest. I think it's, it's so real.
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: Like it's very genuine. It's very heartfelt. And I think
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: that's what, what gives it the edge because this song
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: could kind of be like, it's all right. I think
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: there's so much like of her that comes through in it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: Like literally from their little spoken intro going into it
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: to like, it does not go out with a bang.
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: Like it just sort of, but there's so much emotion
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: in the end of it from her. And I'm just like, okay,
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: that worked. I'm like, damn, that worked.
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: It doesn't need the big finish because of the way
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: it's handled and performed.
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: And she doesn't have like perfect vocals, but that's great.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: It's almost like the difference between like, this perfect digital
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: picture and then the warmth of a Polaroid or a
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: manual camera. That's what I felt from it. I was like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: I can feel like she's in the room with me.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: I feel like I could sing this song.
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: That was my thing. Again, I think it makes it
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: very real. I think you buy her as a person
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: and not just this caricature of someone in a musical.
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: I buy her as a real person because And I
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: think it works from the angle that they're working as
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: far as, you know, the audition theme, if nothing else,
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: of like constantly being up there and thrown into, you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: people looking at you and judging you and like not
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: feeling like you're perfect. And she's not. And so it
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: does kind of, to me, that grounded her role that
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: like when you see her like putting together this production
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: that in the story isn't super successful, you're like, yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: that's probably how a lot of people go. Like she's
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: not perfect. Like, and things aren't always going to work
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: out for her. And like, it makes it very real
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: and grounded. And to me, that's what works best in
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: that whole movie is the weird little heart of that
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: that runs through the whole movie and especially picks up
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: like halfway through when you start seeing how much she's
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: struggling and their weird little problems that they have. And
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: then the wrap up is amazing. And so it all
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: kind of comes together, but yeah, I feel like so
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: much of it rests on, her performance and what she
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: brings to it.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: They can hear like her little voice cracking. Like when
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: she said, it's so impressive.
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: It's amazing. And again, that shouldn't be how that works,
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: but that's why.
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: It works for me.
• 48:44
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  Speaker 10: Damn the man. Save the Meltdown. Hi, this is Lisa Loeb,
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  Speaker 11: You say....
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: I only hear what I want to.
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: All right, so we're back on score now. And this is,
• 51:14
  Speaker 10: if I have to guess, I'm guessing you're leaning towards
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: this one, Jacqueline. This is the score for Moonlight?
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: Oh, yes.
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: So this is.
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: The end credits.
• 51:26
  Speaker 10: End credits suite composed by Nicholas Bertel.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: This is probably the only score that made me feel
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: actually emotional.
• 56:42
  Speaker 10: Feel real feelings?
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: I felt actual real feelings.
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: I don't know if that happens anymore. You can't have
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: them manufactured for you. There's a place you can order
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: them on the internet now.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: So if you haven't seen Moonlight, there are three phases
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: to the movie. And it follows, like, the story of, like,
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: this young black boy who is gay and has, you know,
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: a terrible life in all kinds of ways. And it
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: goes in three phases. There's about a third of the
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: movie is him when he's a young boy, about, like,
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: eight or ten. And then him again, the second phase
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: of the movie is him when he's, like, a teenager, like, 15, 16.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: And then later.
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: The last phase of the movie is when he's thinking
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: of a full-grown man. Straight up, giant, muscular man.
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: Super hot in your mind.
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: Super hot.
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: As we've covered in a previous episode.
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: His name is Trevante, and he's a gorgeous man. That's all.
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: But anyways, back to the song.
• 57:47
  Speaker 10: Now I see where those feelings came from. The feelings.
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: Oh, many feelings.
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: Feel the feelings.
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: And the end credit suite... If you're listening closely, it
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: also has three phases. It kind of.
• 58:03
  Speaker 10: Pretty sneaky, sis.
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really haunting and creative, and then it deconstructs.
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: It kind of falls apart. You can hear everything kind
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: of going out of sync, and it kind of crumbles.
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: And then it comes back, and it comes back with
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: a more complex rhythm. It comes back with sweeping strings
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: and woodwinds and all this stuff. And then it kind
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: of crumbled again. And then it comes back with just
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: this sad, broken violin with piano. And I was like,
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: oh no. I just was like, I wasn't going to cry.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: But I was just like, it mirrored the different phases
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: of the movie in my mind. And it was just fabulous.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: Just fabulous. And I didn't even... So a lot of
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: the music throughout the movie is also classical music. There's
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: some really great parts, but I don't recall the rest
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: of the score so much, but the end credit suite.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: is really what stood out for me as being like
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: this is and it's weird i'm like i want that
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: in the movie too give me that really powerful i.
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: Was looking at other stuff on the soundtrack so i
• 59:20
  Speaker 10: guess they're working in some modern day or at least
• 59:23
  Speaker 10: of the time music in his real world as well
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: because it seemed like it bounced back and forth with
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: some rap and soul and other stuff that I'm assuming
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: he's growing up in the middle of, so.
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 10: That's an interesting mixture on top of that as well.
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like that they, because, you know, there's rap
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: and soul, but then I like that they used a
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: lot of, like, classical, like, themes and stuff to be like, also,
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: this life is beautiful, you know.
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: Well, and again, yeah, even if you're in his world,
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: doesn't mean you can't enjoy this music.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: So it's like, It does have, and I like that
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: structure thing, that if anybody puts that much time and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 10: effort into not only creating a song, but also creating
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: a song that mirrors the thing that you're trying to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: attach it to, it's like that takes a lot more
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 10: effort than many people would bother to put into it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: So I think that kind of stuff is the reason
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: it needs to be nominated. It kind of puts it
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 10: in a category above all the other stuff, which isn't
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 10: that why we nominate these.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: And I was trying to find something like that, some
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: kind of mirroring, some kind of like the music is
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: telling a story and some of the other scores, and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: I just wasn't finding it.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 10: Again, there's not, I don't know.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: I'm sure that this won't win the score, but I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: was just like, this is probably, that and Jackie are
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: probably my favorite scores.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 10: Those two are definitely just sort of a cut above
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: what's going on, like, there's a lot of stuff that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: just becomes like, Oh yeah, this is, I can see
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 10: this getting nominated. Like, and we'll get to that one later,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: but yeah, but yeah, I don't know. There are ones.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 10: And that's why I said like, like the Jackie one,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: like sometimes it shocks me when something really interesting and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 10: original gets in there.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 10: And this one's a little more traditional, but is still not,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: not a hundred percent like cookie cutter, uh, straight to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: you know what you always go to.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: It's not lion it's not well i.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 10: Feel like so many of the anything that's a big
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 10: studio release gets a big name usually like all of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 10: these guys are the same group of 20 composers that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 10: get nominated over and over and over again so it's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: like and a lot of times it's like yeah that's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: fine like it's completely well done and well put together
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 10: but but it's kind of interchangeable with half the other
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: movies out there. Like you could swap the scores around
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: and I don't know if it would affect the movie.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: And I feel like that's a very basic problem because
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: the score is supposed to be tied to the movie.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: It's supposed to be affecting what's going on on screen
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: if you're doing it right. If you're producing the movie
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: the right way, it is supposed to be a key
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: element to what you're doing.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: And this is making me think, it's a little bit sidetracked,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: but The fact that something like Lion was nominated, this
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: very basic score, just nothing to it really. But then
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: Arrival didn't get nominated. When Arrival, the score, Johan Johansson,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: he's a big name, especially like up and coming composer
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: right now.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: He's been on this show a couple of years now.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: And the music to Arrival was perfect for that movie.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: It was so like that movie wouldn't have been the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: movie it was without that score.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: That's not the first time I've heard that. There's, and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: that kind of a lot of different categories for arrival.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: I've heard like, Hey, why didn't this end up here
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: and here and here? So it's like, I feel like
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: people responded to it. Like, I feel like it didn't
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: do a ton in the box office. It did fine.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: But it fell just kind of middle of the road.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: So I think it's one of those, it didn't make
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 10: a fortune, so it didn't get noticed there. It got
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 10: pretty good critical acclaim, but not enough that it shot
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: it up to the top of everyone's attention. So when
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 10: it came time to nominate things, it just fell by
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 10: the wayside. Because now I hear everybody responding like, actually,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: that was a really good movie this year. That's one
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: of the best movies I've seen.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: It's one of the best.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: Kind of time mind bending that I've seen in a
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: long time.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's no Dr. Strange, but.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Oh boy.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: But yeah.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: It's a proper science fiction.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 10: It's yeah. It's, I think that's what it is. I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: think it, you get those every year that you're like, well,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: that kind of sucks because this was easily as good
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 10: as the things that did get nominated. But again, the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 10: Academy Awards is not really a pinpoint of the best
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: of the year. It's just what the Academy decides to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: not write. It is its own weird little game, so whatever.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: So now we bounce back to song with How Far
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: I'll Go from Moana. Music and lyric by Lin-Manuel Miranda.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 19: I've been staring at the edge of the water Long
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 19: as I can remember Never really knowing.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: Why I wish I could be the perfect daughter, but
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: I come back to.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: The water no matter how hard I try.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: Every turn I take, every trail I track, every path
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 9: I make, every road leads back to the place I.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: Know where I cannot go, where I long to be.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: I see the line where the sky meets the sea,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: it calls me And no one knows how far it
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: goes If.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: The wind in my sail on the sea stays behind me.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: One day I'll know.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: If I go, there's.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Just no telling how far I'll go.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: I know everybody on this.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: Island seems so happy on this island.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: Everything is by design.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: I know everybody on this island has a role on
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: this island.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: So maybe I can roll with mine. I can lead
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: with pride.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: I can make us strong.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 19: I'll be satisfied if I play along.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: But the voice inside sings a different song.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: What is wrong with me?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: See the light as it shines on the sea.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: It's blinding.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: But no one knows how deep it goes.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: And it seems like it's calling out to.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: Me So come find me and let me know.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: What's beyond that line?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 16: Will I cross that line?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: The line with the star is the sea, it holds.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: Me And no one knows how far it goes If
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: the wind is my sail on the sea, stay behind me.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: One day I will know how far I'll go.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 10: Which I was like, what? I kind of know that name.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: I'm one of the few people in the world that's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 10: not swept up in Hamilton fever.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: Because I kind of don't care. But I mean, whatever.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: It seems really impressive and well done, but I think
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: all the attention I could have ever had has been
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: beaten out of me by now. Because I've heard so
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 10: many people talk about it to this point. I'm just like,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: maybe if I give it a decade or so and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: it has a revival and I go see it, I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 10: might appreciate it. Well, I kept asking people.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 12: People kept saying, oh, have you seen Hamilton? Have you
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 12: seen Hamilton? I kept saying, well, what's it about? Because
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 12: all I knew was the title at this point.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Sounds boring.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 17: And for like six months, the only answer I got was,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 17: it's amazing.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 12: That's okay, but what's it about?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 10: Well, it's great.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: It's not answering my question.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah. And when someone described to me, well, Alexander Hamilton
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 12: with hip hop, I was like, that sounds stupid. Yeah.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 12: And normally, I would be on board with that sort
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 12: of thing.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 17: But then when I found out it was serious, it
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 17: was like, I don't care.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: Well, I feel like it could go horribly, horribly wrong.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: It seems like they balanced it nicely.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: But I'm just like, again, your knee-jerk reaction is probably
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: the correct one. You should be like, oh no, that's
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: a terrible idea. And luckily, these people are talented and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: they made it work.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 12: I'm glad for the writer, the kid who's apparently done
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 12: quite well for himself with it. I'm glad everybody likes it,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 12: but I just don't care.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 10: Pulitzer Prize, two Grammys, an Emmy, a MacArthur Fellowship, three
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: Tony Awards. I guess he's done okay for himself. He's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 10: done all right. But I don't know that he's going
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 10: to win for Moana. I don't know. I don't have
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: a problem with this song. I think this song is fine.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 10: It is one of those that within the context of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 10: what you're presented in the movie, I feel like it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 10: belongs in the movie.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: So it is harder to separate it. Here's the thing.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: This is a shock. Disney's really smart.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 10: Because here's what they always do. They're like, okay, we're
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 10: going to take the normal one that's in the movie
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 10: and we're assuming it's going to get nominated because we're
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: Disney and we make musicals and that's what happens all
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: the time. But we're also smart and we've got this
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: entire arsenal of talented musicians and singers. and 12-year-old girls
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: on our payroll. So I'm like, we're also going to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: re-record it and put it out. And that's the thing.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: This was one of those, I'd heard this song in
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 10: its pop version for months now and didn't realize it
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 10: was the same song from this because it's just dialed
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: a little differently. And I feel like the single version-
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 10: kind of works better as a song a lot better
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 10: like the more i heard that i was like this
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 10: is actually kind of a cool song that works on
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 10: its own and all it took was a minor bit
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 10: of retooling because then i went back and re-listened i'm
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 10: like no the lyrics are all still there but they
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 10: don't feel so clunky and out of place in the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 10: single version so i'm like it's it's not the song's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 10: doing it's just the way that it stands in the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 10: movie it needs to be in the movie so it's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 10: one of those like it it suffers from probably being
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 10: good because it's supposed to be part of the movie.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 10: It's supposed to tell the story of what's going on
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 10: in the movie. So to have it seem like a
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: separate thing in the middle of the movie would probably
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 10: be a mistake from that aspect. But to listen to
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: it from the outside, it's hard to listen to the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 10: theatrical version, but I feel like the single version works
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: really well.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: See the light where the sky meets the sea It
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: comes to me No one knows How far it goes.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah the the theatrical version i don't.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Feel is representative of.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 7: Disney's best no i mean i i am it actually
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: feels kind.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 10: Of Like, isn't this what every girl sings about a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 10: third of the way into a Disney movie?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 12: It seems like it's not quite finished. You know, like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 12: the Disney writers could have taken a couple more swings
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: at it and maybe tightened it up a little bit.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 12: And the song that, because again, I haven't seen the movie,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 12: but I was watching these on YouTube right after Is it.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 10: The rock song?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 17: Yeah, it came the rock song. And I thought that
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 17: was a much better song.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: I'm surprised that this one almost seems like a throwaway
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: song in the movie.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 10: Again, I feel like it's the safe bet because you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 10: can almost get it without seeing the movie.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 18: Sure.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 10: Again, it's the same song that Belle sings. It's the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 10: same song that Ariel sings.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: I'm stuck in this world and I don't want to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 10: be stuck in this world and I really hope I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 10: get to go do other things because I'm stuck here
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: and I'm probably a princess by the end of this
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: movie but I don't know yet and I really want
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 10: to get out there and do other things and like
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 10: I feel like they all kind of hit that beat
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: that's why I always like when they do very unconventional
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: Disney stories that don't have to go down that same
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: road over and over again but This one, I mean,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: it actually seems like a pretty different story, but somehow
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: they still found a way to cram this song into it.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 12: Everything I've heard about this movie, again, haven't seen it,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 12: but everything I've heard, it's really well done.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I've heard.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 12: That's why my expectations for this song were so high,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 12: and then I actually listened to it, and I'm like, yeah.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 12: It's like, yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 10: But it was weird having heard the other version so much.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 10: Because I'm like, but it can be a good song.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 12: It can be a great song.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: I feel like it's a great song when they do
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 10: their Alessa Carver version. But yeah, within the movie, it's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 10: just kind of boring. And can I go ahead and say,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: is it not surprising and a little infuriating? Well, of course,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 10: The Rock and Sing. Is there anything that bastard can't do?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 20: Right.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 10: God damn.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 12: How can you.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 17: Not love that guy?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: He is the perfect man.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: He really kind of is. It's really annoying. I'm like,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: he's so damn pretty. And look how ripped he is. Oh,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 10: and he can sing and dance too? Man, what the hell?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 12: Well, as I was watching that, I expected his voice
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 12: to change just a little when he started singing. Because,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 12: you know, Disney has done that many times. They'll have
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 12: their primary cast for the... normal dialogue and then they'll
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 12: have professional singers to sing.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: Broadway singer to do the song.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 12: And, you know, I can't knock him for that. But
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 12: then here comes the rock and once again proves that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 12: we're all failures.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 10: It can't be as cool as the rock. That's all
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: there is to it. So, yeah, he's not even in this.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: But that was my like it came up next on mine, too.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 10: And I was just like, damn it. Of course, he
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 10: can sing.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, of course.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 10: Bastard doing everything good. Pissing me off. being so damn
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 10: pretty it ain't right the tooth fairy was on yesterday
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 10: and just like look at him he's not right and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 10: then he takes his shirt off in the locker room
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 10: and i'm like look at.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 17: Him and he's funny and he's funny he's funny and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 17: he can act i mean yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 10: He's yeah he's good at everything it's annoying.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: Have either you guys seen the um uh after what
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: was that the cia is it the cia movie or
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: whatever with him and kevin.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 10: Hart yeah i haven't seen it but.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 7: But they uh They had like this, they sat across
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: from each other in chairs and did impressions of each other.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: So The Rock was doing an impression of Kevin and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: it's so good.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 10: Oh my goodness.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: You need to YouTube that right away.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 17: He was the best part in Reno 911, the movie.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 10: He's done that a lot of times.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 12: You know, terrible movie and then along comes The Rock
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 12: and for like two minutes, I'm like, well, this is something.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 10: Did you see Be Cool? See what? Be Cool?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 10: It's, To come from, it's a sequel to a really
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 10: good movie, it's terrible. He, and it was one of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 10: the first times I saw him act, and I was
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 10: just like, oh my god, that guy's amazing. Like, in
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 10: that first, you know, one of the first times he's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 10: ever on screen, I'm just like, that dude has so
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: much charisma. And his playing thing, again, he was still
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: full-on wrestling at that point. He was a big name.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 10: He's doing a very unlike himself, just completely unafraid to
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 10: smash his ego that he's built up in the ring
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 10: in these ridiculous performances. Again, I.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 12: He seems like such a nice guy.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 10: I do kind of want to be best friends with him.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: Is it too much to ask to be best friends?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 17: If I'm walking down the street and he was like,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 17: hey man, will you wash my car for me?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 12: I'd be like, okay, Mr.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: Johnson, you got it. Be like, okay, can you pick
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 10: me up?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 10: Just want to be cradled in The Rock's arms. Is
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: that too much to ask?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 12: Is he still The Rock or is it officially?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 10: I think officially he's Dwayne. I don't think.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: He'll always be The Rock.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 10: I think he got on good terms so that he
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: can still come back and perform as The Rock. Because
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: I thought they brought him back a few years ago.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 10: But I don't think it got to be the fight
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: that like Hogan did. Where they owned his identity.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: So, I think he can be whoever he wants because
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 10: he's The Rock.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 12: Because he's The Rock.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: Because he's Dwayne and Dwayne is freaking magic.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: And if there was litigation, all he'd have to do
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: is show those pearly whites.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he'd just give them that smile. Arch that eyebrow.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 19: Like, all right.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 10: All right, gavel.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 12: Binge press the jury.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: Gavel.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: Gavel.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 10: You guys give him a lot of money because look.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: At that smile.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 10: This episode brought to you by Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: Because everything is brought to you by Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 10: Everything good, anyway. All right, so we are rounding out
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 10: score with Passengers by Thomas Newman. This is the Starship Avalon, parentheses,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: main title, close parentheses.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: So this was the one I was referring to. I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: don't even think Again, it's very well done. And Thomas
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: Newman's been on here in previous years as well. That's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: what I'm saying. It's the same five guys that pop
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 10: up on this episode over and over and over again.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 10: So it's like, obviously, he's A-list. He's top of the game.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 10: He's who you want to go to when you can't
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: get John Williams.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 10: It's like John Williams and a bunch of other guys.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 10: It's like the other five guys and then occasionally a
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 10: wild card mixes in there. But he's one of the
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: other people that everybody goes to. And he's accomplished. He's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 10: well done. versed in this stuff. He knows what he's doing,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: but it's also just really kind of boring. Does that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 10: mean that's also your take?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: I liked the use of... Was it a Rhodes piano?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: Or was it like a vibraphone or something? But it
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: gave like this 80s vibe. It almost felt like I
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: was listening to the It Follows soundtrack.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: For a second.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: I was like, oh.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 21: I wish.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: I do like that soundtrack.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: But yeah, it was kind of like one note, but
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 7: It felt.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 12: Though, like a sci-fi score. Whereas, like, what you were
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 12: talking about earlier, you could take most of these other
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 12: scores and switch them around and nobody would notice. This
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 12: one did kind of seem like it fit that whole thing.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: It was, like, minimalist and subdued in this way that, like,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: was probably good for, you know, a spacey movie.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 10: So I was going to say, could you swap it
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 10: out with, like, Interstellar?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 10: And not know the difference.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 10: But I'm saying, if you didn't know the difference, could
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 10: it be in the background and you're just like, hey,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 10: it's spacey.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, probably.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 10: Like, that's the thing. Between the two, they're both their
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 10: own weird thing, but I'm like, are either so identifiable
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 10: to that property or are they just generic sci-fi minimalist
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: kind of stuff?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: Under the right circumstances. I don't know. That movie has
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 10: some issues anyway. I did see that one. It is
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 10: like this is... One of the only things it got
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 10: that I know of. It might have gotten some of
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: the tech stuff, but it certainly wasn't pulling any of
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 10: the big showing performance stuff. It's got problems, but I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 10: liked it more than most people that I've heard. A
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 10: lot of people had really big problems with it. I
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 10: think it does, story-wise, leave a big hole in it
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 10: that I think it could have been handled a little
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 10: differently and it wouldn't ask the viewer to make this
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 10: huge leap. that the character also has to make. I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 10: think there are ways around it, but those are all writing.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: I think otherwise, I think performances are great. I think
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 10: that the special effects are good and the score is
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 10: fine too. It's just, I don't think, yeah, I think
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 10: that's what it is. It's fine. It doesn't hold up
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 10: to some of the other stuff that are out there
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 10: that are probably a little better. But again, I don't
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 10: think it's lacking in any way other than.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 7: It's like he used the right instrumentation, but he just
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 7: didn't go the distance.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 10: I've said that in previous episodes like this as well
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 10: i'm like what do you do when you've done a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 10: lot of this stuff like i think my original.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 12: Well we talked about that last year with john williams
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 12: yeah how do you approach a new property.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 10: When you've done especially somebody like him who's done hundreds
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 10: and hundreds of pieces over the years so it's like even,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 10: even somebody newer. I'm just like, when you've done it
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 10: a good amount of times and you're still kind of
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 10: dealing with Oscar caliber movies and the subject matter that they,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 10: and they, they kind of want the same thing, you know, when,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: producers come to you, they probably don't want you doing
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  Speaker 10: something weird.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah. Out on the window.
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  Speaker 19: There's some limitations there.
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  Speaker 10: They want something safe that they can build and bring
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  Speaker 10: in normal audiences. They don't want you to do anything
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  Speaker 10: too weird. So it's like, I can kind of see
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  Speaker 10: where you're probably led down this road of like, you know, okay,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: give them what they want kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: Especially when they're throwing you a huge studio check.
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  Speaker 7: This is a paycheck score.
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  Speaker 10: And I got two more coming this year and I
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: got three more coming the year after that. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 10: I can see where you don't start taking weird chances
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 10: once you get this level of successful. So I don't
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  Speaker 10: fault him really. I think it's fine. It's just, it's
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 10: not doing anything outside the box.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: He's been a lot. I was going back and looking
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 10: like going back to like little women in the nineties. Like,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 10: American Beauty and Road to Perdition and like WALL-E like
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 10: which again I love WALL-E so but even like Bridge
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 10: of Spies recently we've seen this guy's work he's definitely
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: a solid performer yeah all right are we ready to
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  Speaker 10: round this thing out with the big finale song yeah
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  Speaker 10: the big song and dance number to go out on
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 10: it kind of is I mean yeah for once it
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  Speaker 10: is you don't always get that in one of these
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  Speaker 10: episodes sometimes it's just 10 10 Songs that end up
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  Speaker 10: in every Oscar. But this one is literally a song
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  Speaker 10: and dance number. This is City of Stars from La
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  Speaker 10: La Land by Emma and Ryan. Written by Justin Hurwitz.
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  Speaker 10: Once again, lyrics by whatever that guy's name is.
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  Speaker 20: Binge?
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  Speaker 6: Binge.
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  Speaker 2: Ask.
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  Speaker 10: Justin Paul. Justin, you're going to have to start taking
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 10: the lead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: So we will go out with that. But I guess beforehand,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: what are your thoughts on it? Again, I just sort
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 10: of refer back to most of what I said on
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  Speaker 10: the other two. I feel like this falls somewhere in
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 10: between the past two. That's kind of why I wanted
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 10: to just round it out with this one because it's
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 10: bits and pieces of both of those. I think it
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 10: goes back to the score and it brings those... motifs
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 10: back in and you've got the piano hook that continues
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 10: through the entirety of the movie both in the score
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 10: and in the songs and all of the above it's
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 10: just it runs through the movie but on top of
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 10: that it also kind of comes together and has a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 10: little of that like heartfelt stuff to it because it
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 10: is them sort of going through this again this is
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 10: the other thing that I think works is like the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 10: heart of it is also not just their relationship I
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 10: feel like that's secondary to the offering yourself up at
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 10: the altar of wanting to be a celebrity of wanting
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: to be a star in Hollywood and like giving up
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 10: everything to do it in the process is so much
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 10: of what I think is important to this movie. And like,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: so you get, you know, from the singing and dancing
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  Speaker 10: intro to something like city of stars, which is always
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: back to them. Just like, you know, we're, we're giving
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 10: ourselves to this idea more than anything else. And I,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 10: again i think it nails it on that stuff i
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 10: think there's other issues minorly along the way but i
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: think it definitely kind of nails that concept which is
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 10: probably the most important concept of the movie.
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  Speaker 12: Well this this one almost had that big moment that
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 12: i was looking for in all the other songs but
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 12: it's still not quite there.
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  Speaker 10: That's the thing it's not in in seeing it it's
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 10: not quite as big a musical production as you would
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 10: expect right like there is a big finale but it
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 10: still is more interesting and creative from a filmmaking standpoint
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 10: it's not the kind of thing that would be easy
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 10: to reproduce if you're doing this as like a play
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 10: like it works because it's a film and they're kind
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 10: of focusing on that which is fine for me but
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: I'm just like for people that come in just wanting
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 10: the big you know Broadway songs this isn't Broadway and
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 10: they're not doing it that way so it doesn't it's
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 10: kind of like they didn't try to do that. Like,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 10: I feel like they were trying to.
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  Speaker 12: Do something different. They may have tried to do the opposite.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they're trying to, like, make it a little more,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 10: like before, it's sort of more grounded in these people
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 10: that probably wouldn't be in a big Broadway number. Right.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 10: Because even, like, the watching Ryan and Emma do it,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 10: they do a great version, but they still feel like
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 10: sort of regular people thrust into this idea, and... Again,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: I like that. I feel like that's why I'm more
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 10: taken with this, I think, from that aspect. Because it
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 10: is about them trying to be part of this star-studded thing.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: They're trying to cram themselves into Hollywood and celebrity and performance.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 10: So it's not immediately going to be perfect. I don't know.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 10: I think there's a little of that that draws me
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 10: into that.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 14: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I guess musically, what were your guys' thoughts?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it was good. I prefer Emma's solo to
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: the duet with Ryan.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 10: Again, I think this shows like.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: My favorite part of the song was her laughing. So
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 7: like her little laugh, I was like, yes.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 10: I feel like it shows more of his weaknesses than her.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: I think hers come through and just make her more endearing.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 10: I wonder who else they could have cast.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: It's like.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 10: And I'm fine with him. Like, I've kind of come
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 10: around him on the last couple of movies. But again,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 10: he's so unlikable in even this character a lot of times.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 10: And I'm just like, he needs to. That's the thing.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 12: I don't think he's a bad actor. it's just the
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 12: way he portrays people is as unlikable you know as
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 12: unlikable people and i don't know.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 17: If it's just the roles he gets or just the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 17: way he.
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  Speaker 10: The movie was just in with russell crowe that last
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 10: year like yeah the nice guys nice guys yeah a
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: good guy like he's he's very unlikable like almost like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 10: It works in that type of movie.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 10: Because that's that level of comedy and he's supposed to
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 10: kind of be the one that's put upon the whole movie.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 10: So it's okay for him to be not likable because
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: he's about to get beat to hell along the way,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: almost as punishment for being a jerk the whole time.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 10: I feel like it works in that. It's like he
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 10: kind of brought a little of that over into this movie.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 10: You're not redeeming yourself by the end of this. You
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 10: just get caught up in a weird relationship, which that's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 10: its own thing. Like you can't, I don't know. It's,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 10: it's really hard to try to balance those two. So
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 10: I feel like if he would have been a little
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 10: more charming and it's funny cause that's the way they've
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 10: portrayed him in the media since he first broke through
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 10: and like, right. People love him and girls go crazy
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 10: for him. And I just get there and go, eh,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 10: he's all right i guess i mean he's a decent
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 10: actor i just he needs to have a little more
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 10: of that charm he needs to be a little more
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 10: like the rock and then you would and then you'd
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 10: be like all right well that's fine i forgive him
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 10: if he's a little if he's a little more charismatic
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: if he's got a little more charm that he's working
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: on her it also kind of works on the audience
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 10: and i don't ever get that from him so i
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 10: don't really forgive him for anything musically along the way
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 10: either i'm just like you started a weird register. You know,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 10: just like, that's a weird tone you even start at
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 10: on this song. So, I don't know. Those are my thoughts.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 7: Yep, that's pretty much the short of it.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: But otherwise, it's still a pretty impressive movie. I was
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 10: glad I saw it. And I'm assuming it will sweep
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 10: the Oscars.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 12: I get the feeling it will.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: It feels like it's pretty, pretty high on the, uh,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 10: probability here and I'll probably both of these categories I
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 10: feel like pretty likely I don't know between these two
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 10: songs though where do you think it's going man I
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 10: think I like hers better but I'm.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: Like this is more of the big show but I
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 7: think the academy is gonna be like I want you
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: know Ryan Gosling.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 10: And Emma Stone to sing at the Oscars yeah singing
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 10: and dancing duet that's the old school musical way so
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 10: maybe that's yeah maybe that's where we're going but Again,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 10: it's a good movie. There are many other things I
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 10: would like less if they won. So I'm like, I'm
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 10: fine with this one winning anything they want to. Again,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 10: I give credit to the filmmaker for just trying to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 10: do something as weird and unconventional as this is. Granted,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 10: now it seems well-financed and mainstream compared to other stuff.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 10: But I'm like, really? Coming into this, trying to pitch
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 10: this idea? Had to suck. So the fact that he
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 10: made it work and made it work as well as
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 10: it does is pretty impressive.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 10: There you go.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: Oh, you know what?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 10: I think we're good.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Thanks for coming in.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 10: So, anything other than these songs? Any predictions to make?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 10: Any words to pass on to people?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: I do not.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 12: I'm not even sure what else is nominated other than
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 12: in the musical category.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 10: Well, I will say, if you don't trust the Academy's
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 10: voting and you yourself would like to vote, the Oscars
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 10: won't let you do that. But the foilers will. So
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 10: email producer at moviemeltdown.com and you can actually get in
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 10: on the voting for our awards, which are way more
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 10: prestigious than an Oscar. But, you know, whatever. So feel
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 10: free to do that. Otherwise, in the near future, we'll
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 10: be back to watch the Oscars and then ignore it
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 10: and just announce our own awards anyway. Yep.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 10: If you want to get in on that, you can
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 10: clog an artery with the rest of it. I believe
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 10: she's signed on to host it once again. If you'd
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 10: like to show up and eat large amounts of pork
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 10: and not pay attention to the Oscars.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 12: I don't know that I've ever said no to that.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: There's going to be queso. There's going to be pigs
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: in blankets. There's going to be lots of bacon.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, let me bust out bologna for you
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: because that's what's going to do it. Right over the top.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 10: Fancy foods like bologna.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 7: Anything that a pig is, he brings.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 10: It's just a sick, sad game that I keep.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 12: I had deep fried pigtails the other day, and it
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 12: was surprisingly delicious.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 10: All righty then.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 12: If you can find it, I highly recommend it.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 7: They're deep fried, I'm sure. I'll like them. Where do
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 7: you eat them?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 12: Some restaurant up in Cincinnati somewhere. Some hipster hot dog place.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 17: But that was on the menu on the appetizers, and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 17: everyone was like, let's have that.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 12: And I was like, I don't know. But I tried
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 12: a couple, and they were delicious.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 10: Good to know. I don't know if we'll get that
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 10: on our menu, but I'll see what I can do.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 10: So prepare yourself. Come back for that. And email me
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 10: between now and then, and you can be involved in
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 10: that whole evening, because we'll be tallying up your votes.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 10: So until then, I will remind you, Get a Life
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 10: will provide the Oscar-nominated soundtrack.
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  Speaker 20: For City of stars Are you shining just for me?
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  Speaker 20: City of stars There's so much that I can't.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: See Who knows.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 20: I felt it from the first embrace I shared with.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 16: You That now.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 19: Dreams may finally come true city of stars just one
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 19: thing everybody.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: Wants there in the bars and through the smoke screen
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 11: of the crowded restaurants it's love Yes, all we're looking
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 11: for is love from someone else.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: A rush. A glance. A touch.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 15: A dance.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 10: A look in somebody's eyes. To light up the skies.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 10: To open the world.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: And send a reeling.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 8: A voice that says I'll be here and you'll be alright.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: I don't care if I know just where I will go.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: Cause all that I need is that crazy feeling like
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: I tapped out of my heart.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 13: Think I want it to stay. City of stars, are
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 13: you shining just for me? City of stars You.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: Never shined so brightly.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 12: You never shined so brightly.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 10: Well, we're on board with that.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, Grendel.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: You need to isolate that and use it.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 10: Oh, I'm sure. Grendel's house is fun.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 7: All day, every day. She's like, wait, you're not in
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 7: bed right now. Why aren't you in bed with me?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Hmm?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 10: You're spoiled. That's your problem.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: She's a spoiled little bitch.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 12: That's the truth.
• 1:37:03
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• 1:37:06
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• 1:37:08
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  Speaker 20: Aloha! Aloha!
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  Speaker 3: Talk hard!