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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 199 | Hot Takes After Jaguars Victory vs. Colts in Week 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: That's how y'all set this.
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Speaker 2: Welcome man.
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Speaker 3: We're all feeling good today on another victory Monday for
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars. Here and Kadani Stephens, Frian Text, and John
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Speaker 3: Osier with me today. A huge win over the Colts
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Speaker 3: yesterday puts the Jaguars into sole possession of first place
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Speaker 3: in the AFC South. Let's go over our big things
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Speaker 2: Big thing number one is that they're.
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Speaker 3: The top cast as mentioned there now leading the division
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Speaker 3: and they are on a role right now as well.
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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen talked a little bit about what it means
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Speaker 3: to see his team perform in these big games.
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Speaker 4: Our guys, you know, took control of the moment. I
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Speaker 4: guess you could say in terms of understanding that, yeah,
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Speaker 4: this was a big game in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 4: And I think our guys have responded in so many
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Speaker 4: ways in these big games, right you look at obviously
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Speaker 4: Kansas City, San Francisco, some of those moments where you know,
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Speaker 4: I think they ultimately always kind of feel disrespected, and
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Speaker 4: that's something that continues to feed our team, Brian.
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Speaker 3: We sure talked our fair share all week about what
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Speaker 3: this game was going to look like. But the team
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Speaker 3: just came out played and dominated.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Look, I'm not naive. I think if Daniel Jones stays
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Speaker 6: in the game, it's a much closer game. But the tempo,
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Speaker 6: the force which the Jaguars were playing on both lines
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Speaker 6: of scrimmage was incredible. And you know, I wondered about
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Speaker 6: just how good was the run defense. Was it a
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Speaker 6: function of some other states sticks that allowed them to
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Speaker 6: be number one? Well, whether I believed or not, yesterday
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Speaker 6: they proved John that that is among the very best
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Speaker 6: run defenses in football. I don't know whether there's still
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Speaker 6: number one because Jonathan Taylor got seventy two yards. Listen,
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Speaker 6: they held a guy averaging almost six yards per carry
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Speaker 6: two three point five and on what I think is
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Speaker 6: the swing play, which we'll talk about that fourth and
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Speaker 6: one play, the Jaguars just dominated the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 6: So it was a thoroughly convincing performance by a football
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Speaker 6: team that clearly feels the need to convince people of
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Speaker 6: how good they are.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, if Danny Jans doesn't get hurt, then any games
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Speaker 7: closer Jonathan Taylor probably has a few more yards, but
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Speaker 7: I thought it was impressive about that effort. You never
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Speaker 7: felt like he was getting control of the game, which
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Speaker 7: is the great Runners can do that.
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Speaker 5: Look it was.
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Speaker 7: It was an incredibly impressive effort start to finish, because
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Speaker 7: so often in that situation you don't dominate, you play
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Speaker 7: tight play whatever thought. I thought it was one of
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Speaker 7: the biggest games in franchise history in December of the
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Speaker 7: regular season, and I thought it was one of the
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Speaker 7: best performances in that kind of situation that we've ever
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Speaker 7: seen around here.
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Speaker 3: All Right, big thing number two today is gonna be
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Speaker 3: confidence is Confidence is key. Yesterday we saw Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 3: been letting it rip the past couple of weeks. He
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Speaker 3: looked very confident yesterday and he talked a little bit
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Speaker 3: about why he's playing so confident right now.
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Speaker 8: Just feel the energy from the team, the confidence. You know,
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Speaker 8: a lot goes into that, a lot of you know, obviously,
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Speaker 8: I think with a team, to see it happen in
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Speaker 8: different situations, like I talked about, the way we've won,
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Speaker 8: gives you confidence in your team and just you know
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Speaker 8: you're gonna respond the right way. And that's The one
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Speaker 8: thing I know I got full faith in with our
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Speaker 8: team is regardless of what happens, we're gonna respond and
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Speaker 8: we're gonna have a shot to go win the game.
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Speaker 8: And that's important because it's just these games never go
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Speaker 8: exactly how you think they're gonna go. Everybody has a
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Speaker 8: plan going and everyone feels great about their plan, and
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Speaker 8: you see a lot of games that don't go well
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Speaker 8: for certain teams. So it's just how you were fond
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Speaker 8: at the bad moments or of the misplays or misthrows
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Speaker 8: or whatever it is.
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Speaker 6: Just play the next play.
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Speaker 3: John Liamcohen kind of challenged Trevor a couple of weeks ago, said,
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Speaker 3: just go throw it, don't you know, get so bogged
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Speaker 3: down with things, And we really seen him kind of
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Speaker 3: open up. It feels like he's playing a lot freer
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Speaker 3: than we've seen in a long time.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you why he's confident, kay, cause he's
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Speaker 7: in his mid twenties and can still pull off everything. Great, Jack,
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Speaker 7: it's fantastic. I would not look as cool in that jacket. Look,
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Speaker 7: the Trevor Lawrence debate has been going on for four
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Speaker 7: or five years around here.
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Speaker 5: Is he this is he that Uh.
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Speaker 7: Brian and I were talking before the show started. If
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Speaker 7: he had a different name and you watched him in
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Speaker 7: that game, you would have thought, while this kid's are
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Speaker 7: the real deal. He played as calmly a, as situationally aware,
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Speaker 7: as accurate.
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Speaker 6: Uh.
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Speaker 7: I don't care what happened to Daniel Jones. Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 7: played big time in that game, huge st in the
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Speaker 7: last couple of weeks. Brian, maybe it's let it rip,
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Speaker 7: I mean, but the signs of this kid, the way
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Speaker 7: he's playing, are as impressive for him as they've been
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Speaker 7: in maybe two or three years.
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Speaker 5: Arrow up, as they said.
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Speaker 6: Listen, remarkable what he's done since Budabaker intercepted him in
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Speaker 6: that game in Arizona just two weeks ago. He's talking
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Speaker 6: about confidence Kai two weeks ago, who had confidence in
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Speaker 6: a quarterback who had thrown three interceptions and lounched the
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Speaker 6: ball when being hit from behind, four turnovers. Everyone was
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Speaker 6: losing their mind, and yet here he is now since
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Speaker 6: that moment, John five touchdown passes, no turnovers, a quarterback rating.
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Speaker 6: I didn't factor in the end of that game in Arizona,
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Speaker 6: but it's got to be over one hundred cumulative. The
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Speaker 6: last two games in that overtime period. He's playing phenomenal football.
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Speaker 6: And when we watched him yesterday, and there's a debate
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Speaker 6: going on right now amongst the national media was listening
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Speaker 6: to a podcast this morning, was that his best game ever?
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Speaker 6: Well from their perspective, and they don't watch him every week,
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Speaker 6: they think so. But from our perspective, John on dis
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Speaker 6: mentioned we were talking about it, I kind of think
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Speaker 6: so too. He was in control, never looked flustered whatsoever.
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Speaker 6: The offensive line did an amazing job. Fourth game this
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Speaker 6: year without a sack. I don't even know if he
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Speaker 6: was touched yesterday. Yeah, listen, he and the balls that
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Speaker 6: he threw, I mean, just just choose the beautiful ones
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Speaker 6: to be over the shoulders to Brian Thomas Junior. How
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Speaker 6: about the third down pass going at the end of
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Speaker 6: the half, going into the south end zone to Tim
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Speaker 6: Patrick on third down in twelve Let alone the roll
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Speaker 6: out that he had where he put the ball right
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Speaker 6: on the spot. He was magnificent yesterday. And here's the
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Speaker 6: most important thing, John said, arrow up many is trending
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Speaker 6: at the right time of the season, So forget what's
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Speaker 6: behind him and look at what we've seen and you can.
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Speaker 6: You can tell this team has real playoff aspirations because
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Speaker 6: their quarterback looks like any elite player the last two weeks.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, the final big thing today is going to be
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Speaker 3: self respect were nothing new to us here in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 3: The national media kind of picking up on things a
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Speaker 3: little bit late, as they always do, but Liam Cohen
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Speaker 3: that his team's really been driven by the disrespect they've
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Speaker 3: seen so far this season and he doesn't expect it
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Speaker 3: to change anytime soon.
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Speaker 6: So that's the beauty of it. I ain't coming.
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Speaker 4: You know that it's not and that's the beauty of it.
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Speaker 4: And that's totally fine, And you know, it's one of
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Speaker 4: those things that I think the group right now. Houston
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Speaker 4: was good for us. I do believe that, you know,
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Speaker 4: the end of Houston was good for us. And to
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Speaker 4: know that each game is going to be a sixty
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Speaker 4: minute football game in our mindset, mentality has to be
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Speaker 4: that way. And when you get into December and you're
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Speaker 4: going to go play some really difficult games on the
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Speaker 4: schedule coming up, and everyone counts. Trevor just said it.
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Speaker 4: Everyone is exactly the same right now moving forward for us,
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Speaker 4: and very proud of these guys getting the nine wins,
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Speaker 4: but a lot of work to be done.
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Speaker 3: More to do, Brian, we talked a lot about how
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Speaker 3: this team came out really angry, charged, whatever you want
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Speaker 3: to call it, in that Chargers game because of the
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Speaker 3: way the Texans game went. But Niam Cohen says, I
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Speaker 3: mean this, I mean this motivation probably going to be
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Speaker 3: there for the rest of the year at least.
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Speaker 6: Kui, Jonathan. I just can't imagine Tom Coughlin or Bill
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Speaker 6: Belichick or Mike Holmgren standing there saying that a loss
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Speaker 6: just a couple of weeks ago where you blew a
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Speaker 6: nineteen point lead was good for his team. No coach
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Speaker 6: in the old school would do that. This guy is
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Speaker 6: so completely transparent to stand there at the podium and
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Speaker 6: talk about disrespect. Coaches don't want to talk about that.
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Speaker 6: It's intangible, it's something they can't control. Coaches like to
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Speaker 6: talk about things they can control their team. But for
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Speaker 6: him to sit there and say it yesterday, he poured
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Speaker 6: fuel on the Duvall fire and got a lot of
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Speaker 6: people behind him. He is remarkable and I'm enjoying every
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Speaker 6: minute of his first season.
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Speaker 7: Here's the beautiful thing about NFL rankings and respect they
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Speaker 7: mean nothing.
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Speaker 5: This is not college football. It doesn't matter where you rank.
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Speaker 7: You're not gonna get left out of the pole because
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Speaker 7: somebody didn't like you, or.
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Speaker 5: The College Football Playoff whatever.
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Speaker 7: Okay, they don't respect you, go win, and whether they
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Speaker 7: respect you or not, you can hold the trophy at
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Speaker 7: the end of the season and be on a podium
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Speaker 7: on national TV.
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Speaker 6: What's going to be interesting, John, is the respect's coming? Right?
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Speaker 6: I mean, so if they were able to use the disrespect.
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Speaker 6: Everyone last week was talking about how the Texans were
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Speaker 6: the real threat to the division because of their defense,
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Speaker 6: and you know, the Colts were still there and the
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Speaker 6: Jaguars seemed third. That's the underlying side of this. Okay,
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Speaker 6: well not anymore. You're sitting all alone in first place.
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Speaker 6: Your schedule is more favorable, and you're a game ahead
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Speaker 6: of the Texans. All you have to do is just
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Speaker 6: to keep winning. Here comes the respect. Now how to
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Speaker 6: they handle it?
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Speaker 7: But in the social media age, you can find somebody
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Speaker 7: who doesn't respect you. So Liam will be able to
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Speaker 7: find somebody, will go on Twitter and find somebody who
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Speaker 7: doesn't respect the Jaguars, and he'll find it and they'll
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Speaker 7: believe that it's the nation disrespecting, so they'll be able
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Speaker 7: to use this guy.
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Speaker 3: Also, I'm curious if it will come because I feel
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Speaker 3: like yesterday I saw a lot of the Colts losing
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Speaker 3: the game and what their season is going to look like,
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Speaker 3: and the run that the Texans are on. So we
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Speaker 3: will see what the national landscape looks like. Here on
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Speaker 3: Jagszam though, we always talked Jags, so stay with us here.
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Speaker 3: After the break, we're gonna go over our highlights from yesterday's
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Speaker 3: big win.
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Speaker 9: I think the league wise, I think you know, to them,
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Speaker 9: we're still the Jackson and they're just winning for us
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Speaker 9: to slip up. But you know, for us, if we
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Speaker 9: continue to trust our process, trust our grind, and we're
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Speaker 9: gonna continue to keep peeking, and you know, all the
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Speaker 9: people that are gonna say that you know, we're not
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Speaker 9: a good team will sit him in the super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Rashian Dollan always think about the Super Bowl looking ahead,
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Speaker 3: and it was a good one. Yesterday josh An Donald
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Speaker 3: being playing great, talked to him after the game. I
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Speaker 3: mean six and half sacks in the last six weeks
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Speaker 3: really turned it on. I think some of that pressures off.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: The record's kind of behind him, and the defense as
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Speaker 3: a hole has been playing great.
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Speaker 6: Oh listen, his pressure rate is insane, and he said
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Speaker 6: in the practice or in the locker room last week
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Speaker 6: after practice that he's top five in pressures. I mean,
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Speaker 6: he's just always around the quarterback, and sack only comes
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Speaker 6: into play if you finish it off. But it doesn't
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Speaker 6: take into account you make him throw the ball quickly,
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Speaker 6: he throws off target. There's a lot of things that
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Speaker 6: josh heinz Allen does that the stats can't capture, and
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Speaker 6: he's doing a lot of those right now.
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Speaker 7: Yet there's a brief stretch against Houston he did not
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Speaker 7: play that well.
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Speaker 5: That's one game. The guys in the NFL have one game.
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Speaker 5: He's always been much much.
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Speaker 7: Better than a lot of observers think because of what
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Speaker 7: you're talking about. He's always around the quarterback. He's been
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Speaker 7: around the quarterback most games this year. The difference is
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Speaker 7: they're rushing better as a front, so he's getting sacks
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Speaker 7: sometimes when he gets all these pressures.
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Speaker 5: High end player always has been in.
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Speaker 3: Credit where credits do. Liam Cohen kind of challenging the
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Speaker 3: defense and Josh hens Allen specifically after that Texans game
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Speaker 3: when they did not play up to par in the
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Speaker 3: second half, and we've seen a really good response from them,
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Speaker 3: and we saw it very early on in this game.
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Speaker 2: So let's look at the highlights from yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd, who had been dealing with some injuries, probably
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Speaker 3: hasn't looked as good as we've seen from September and October,
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Speaker 3: but getting an interception really early on, and when we
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Speaker 3: talk about these like kind of messy condition games, if
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Speaker 3: you get a turnover early, that can be really helpful
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Speaker 3: from what I've seen, at least from that, and I
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Speaker 3: think what was big about that game for me is
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Speaker 3: just the defense as a whole coming out and immediately
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Speaker 3: getting the ball back.
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Speaker 2: When we know those extra possessions can be so helpful.
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Speaker 6: Well, you could just see how the Daniel Jones went
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Speaker 6: to the sideline almost stunned that something happened that negative
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Speaker 6: that quickly, and the Jaguars defense came to play yesterday.
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Speaker 7: The prowlers must be right Devin Lloyd gets weird interceptions.
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Speaker 7: I'm not saying that as a negative toward Devin Lloyd.
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Speaker 7: I think about how many times a season the Kansas
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Speaker 7: City interception, Yeah, where he sort of sneaks up on
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Speaker 7: you and the quarterback normally during a play, what they've
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Speaker 7: seen on film would not indicate that person's going to
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Speaker 7: be there, and then all of a sudden, the quarterback
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Speaker 7: throws these monster hands are going to the ball and
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Speaker 7: catching the quarters Agreed, what's going on?
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that does sort of jolt you.
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Speaker 7: If you throw a pick down field where the cornerbapping
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Speaker 7: gets to play on the ball, you're like, okay, I
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Speaker 7: expect that Devin Lloyd's are like whoa, you know, all
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Speaker 7: of a sudden they're there and it look five picks
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Speaker 7: now for him?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and second most in the NFL, I believe they
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Speaker 6: blew him out.
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Speaker 7: Those ones that are early, those are the ones that
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Speaker 7: shift games. And Devin Lloyd's done it over and over
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Speaker 7: again this year.
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Speaker 3: And credit to coach Camp who's really kind of given
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Speaker 3: Devin that ability to play towards the ball, which we
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Speaker 3: know he struggled last year and has really success succeeded
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Speaker 3: so far from what we've seen doing that. This year,
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Speaker 3: offense was kind of the story of the day. So
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Speaker 3: let's talk a little bit about Brian Thomas Junior. We
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Speaker 3: talked about wanting to see explosive plays from him. We
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Speaker 3: saw that early and of.
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Speaker 2: Course for me, getting him involved is huge.
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Speaker 3: Then Traves Etn who's also been the offensive MVP in
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Speaker 3: my mind, set up this first touchdown of the day
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Speaker 3: for him. But Johnny is it's the first so many
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Speaker 3: but it's so good to see Brian Thompson. You're getting
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Speaker 3: involved and kind of giving that offense the game we
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Speaker 3: haven't seen.
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's such a boost.
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Speaker 7: And it's so weird to think about, right because early
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Speaker 7: in the season you're thinking he's gonna be the one
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Speaker 7: and he's gonna be the guy, and then about week ten,
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Speaker 7: I think a lot of people are like, well, whatever happens, happens,
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Speaker 7: because we just don't know what you're gonna get. Now,
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, because of BTJ, you've got an
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Speaker 7: element there. There's not really pressure on him be the
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Speaker 7: one right now, he doesn't have to be the go
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Speaker 7: to guy on every play, and now all of a sudden,
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Speaker 7: you've got Tim Patrick, when Parker gets back to Kobe,
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Speaker 7: Brenton Strange and Brian Thomas Junior.
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Speaker 5: Do you hate the ball going to any one of
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Speaker 5: those five guys right now?
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Speaker 2: Right now?
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Speaker 5: So now, all of a.
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Speaker 7: Sudden, they've got five guys they can rely on. Five guys,
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Speaker 7: you know, at least four of them who can regularly
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Speaker 7: beat one on one. That's the formula for big time
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Speaker 7: offense in this league.
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Speaker 6: I always having serious nineteen ninety six vibes watching him yesterday.
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Speaker 6: Jimmy Smith was not even close to being the one
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Speaker 6: and eight in the season. They cut Andre Risen, and
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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, here comes Jimmy Smith, you know,
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Speaker 6: starting a borderline Hall of Fame career, a five time
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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl wide receiver. At his emergence, guy coincided with
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Speaker 6: the Jaguars run into the playoffs. And I just got
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Speaker 6: that feeling watching him yesterday. If he is that guy
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Speaker 6: right now, that guy who gives them that X factor
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Speaker 6: that they haven't been able to count on, this is
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Speaker 6: going to be a really difficult team for the rest
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Speaker 6: of the age.
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Speaker 7: So another very important residual, Brian, I mean to cut
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Speaker 7: you off now for a four or five weeks teams
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Speaker 7: didn't have to worry about. Yeah, now you got to
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Speaker 7: worry about And now that opens up everything else for
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Speaker 7: the guys who aren't that elite talent. But DC's having
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Speaker 7: to look at him is gonna matter.
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Speaker 3: Also, let's look ahead as well to another catch from
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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior.
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Speaker 2: Because the thing that's nice about this.
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Speaker 3: Now is he's the inner room with Jacobe Myers, and
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Speaker 3: we've talked a ton about what Jakobe.
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Speaker 2: Brings to the room.
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Speaker 3: But Brian with a beautiful catch on the sideline here
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Speaker 3: probably my favorite play of the day, and then leading
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Speaker 3: that into later in the drive, Jacoby Meyer's touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Jacoby.
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Speaker 3: I can't think of anybody that's been here in just
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Speaker 3: such a short amount of time had such an im
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Speaker 3: media inpactor.
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Speaker 6: I was watching Jacoby on the practice field on Wednesday
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Speaker 6: last week. He caught everything. Brian was struggling on Thursday.
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Speaker 6: Guests who caught everything? Brian, You are absolutely right. There
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Speaker 6: is a residual effect. The two of them are playing
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Speaker 6: off of each other right now, and you can see
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Speaker 6: Jacoby Myers made it in the National Football League as
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Speaker 6: an undrafted rookie free agent. He has earned everything he's
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Speaker 6: gotten and his workmanlike approach to it can't help but
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Speaker 6: rub off on a superlative talent like Brian Thomas Jr.
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Speaker 6: It's going to be exciting to watch these two guys
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Speaker 6: work together the rest of the season.
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Speaker 5: The fantastic points, I'll go in another direction. First of all,
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Speaker 5: don't ignore that throw. Oh gorgeous to Jobe catch either.
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Speaker 7: Of them, and in a league that is rapidly becoming
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Speaker 7: over officiated with.
16:54
Speaker 5: DPIs pulled the flag on that too, by the way,
16:57
Speaker 5: because he was holding his hand on the BTJ play right.
17:02
Speaker 5: I get how you could.
17:03
Speaker 7: Miss it a remarkable catch because BTJ could have assumed
17:07
Speaker 7: he was going to get a flag there.
17:08
Speaker 5: I mean, still made the catch.
17:11
Speaker 7: But I thought the throw on this was something that
17:14
Speaker 7: he Trevor probably doesn't do in Week four.
17:19
Speaker 5: The throw, the confidence, the touch, and I Jacobe's.
17:22
Speaker 2: Given him that and not for lack of ability.
17:24
Speaker 3: It's that confidence he now has in his targets to
17:26
Speaker 3: go get in and kind of haul it in. Let's
17:28
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Daniel Jones' injury. Obviously he
17:31
Speaker 3: was dealing with that leg injury and then now looks
17:33
Speaker 3: like to be an Achilles injury on the other leg.
17:36
Speaker 3: And I only bring this up because obviously affected the game.
17:38
Speaker 3: But they're playing this team again in a couple of weeks,
17:41
Speaker 3: and now it looks like the Colts are I mean,
17:42
Speaker 3: they don't even have Anthony richardson right now. They're going
17:44
Speaker 3: with a rookie. So their season is completely different from.
17:47
Speaker 2: What they pictured a month ago, without a doubt.
17:49
Speaker 6: And you look at the schedule. They're going to Seattle,
17:51
Speaker 6: then they host San Francisco, then they get the Draguars again,
17:53
Speaker 6: and then they go to the Texans. I mean, it's
17:55
Speaker 6: not hard to you know, connect the dots that their
17:58
Speaker 6: season could be over. But beyond that, listen, that was
18:01
Speaker 6: the guy they were going to pay John He was
18:03
Speaker 6: going to be their franchise quarterback. They went all in
18:05
Speaker 6: Kai and spent the next two years first round picks
18:09
Speaker 6: on a cornerback, and now they might not make the playoffs.
18:12
Speaker 6: That's more than just this season injury. That's the kind
18:15
Speaker 6: of injury that'll set your franchise back for years.
18:18
Speaker 3: And do you sign him at this point because you
18:19
Speaker 3: don't know what the recovery could be.
18:21
Speaker 5: Yep, probably with an achilles injury.
18:24
Speaker 7: With a quarterback, you're a little safe for re signing
18:28
Speaker 7: because he's not head be still in from the pocket.
18:33
Speaker 7: I don't spend a whole lot of time feeling sorry
18:35
Speaker 7: for the Colts, but you do have to have empathy
18:39
Speaker 7: for Daniel Jones. That's a brutal blow for a kid
18:43
Speaker 7: who's getting his career back together.
18:45
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is the most recent example, and of course
18:47
Speaker 6: he was much older than Daniel Jones. I mean he
18:49
Speaker 6: was forty when his achilles went out two years ago.
18:51
Speaker 6: But he got back and out on the field and played.
18:53
Speaker 6: So but you don't know whether he'll be ready next year, right,
18:55
Speaker 6: And you don't have first round picks to go and
18:57
Speaker 6: find a young quarterback the next two years if they
18:59
Speaker 6: make change, and the coach it's not that attractive a job,
19:03
Speaker 6: is it.
19:03
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot, there's lots to be considered
19:06
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks for them, and in the arm.
19:08
Speaker 6: Could have been that could be a day that you
19:09
Speaker 6: look back and say, man, the Colts, they were high
19:13
Speaker 6: in the standings and then all of a sudden they disappeared.
19:16
Speaker 2: Yep, We've been there before.
19:17
Speaker 3: So that's not fun for anybody, but something to keep
19:19
Speaker 3: an eye on for us. And then let's take a
19:22
Speaker 3: look here at another turnover force to Jonathan Taylor's fumble,
19:25
Speaker 3: and then Etn kind of had himself a day quietly
19:28
Speaker 3: as as we've seen from him throughout the year, just
19:30
Speaker 3: tons of success. But yeah, the defense forcing another turnover
19:34
Speaker 3: and then Etn getting the ball after that and having success.
19:37
Speaker 3: It's just the complimentary football.
19:39
Speaker 2: John.
19:39
Speaker 3: We talk a ton about it, but you know, getting
19:41
Speaker 3: turnovers and then excuse me, getting points off of them.
19:45
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was saying last night when I was sort
19:47
Speaker 5: of writing a few things about this game.
19:51
Speaker 7: I don't know where Travis will wind up ranking in
19:53
Speaker 7: the Pantheonic backs on this team, MJD.
19:55
Speaker 5: And Fred have like special places.
19:58
Speaker 7: But when his career is over here and where I'm
20:03
Speaker 7: way early, I hope people realize how fun he is
20:08
Speaker 7: to watch and what a clever smart back he has
20:13
Speaker 7: become when he was not that as a rookie. He
20:16
Speaker 7: has said how much he's had to learn how to
20:19
Speaker 7: play in the NFL. Many guys come in and not
20:21
Speaker 7: be able to do that. He's changed the way he plays.
20:26
Speaker 7: He's a fun guy to watch if you like football.
20:29
Speaker 7: I'm like smart football. He follows blocks, he sets him up.
20:31
Speaker 7: He's tougher than his size would indicate. I've really really
20:37
Speaker 7: enjoyed watching Traves etm run the last few years.
20:40
Speaker 6: Well, and listen, he's had a couple of thirteen fourteen
20:42
Speaker 6: hundred yard multiple ten touchdown seasons already, he's gonna go
20:46
Speaker 6: over a thousand yards rushing. He's gonna he's already over
20:49
Speaker 6: eleven hundred yards in total yards and he'll have probably
20:52
Speaker 6: ten touchdowns. But just think about the big players of
20:54
Speaker 6: this season. That was one because it opened the game up.
20:56
Speaker 6: How about the one in San Francisco, they gave the
20:58
Speaker 6: Jaguars the early lead. It's just made big plays after
21:01
Speaker 6: big play. I mean, it's not the you know, the
21:03
Speaker 6: playoff runs yet, but maybe there's a chance for him
21:05
Speaker 6: to get those this year. He is since the start
21:08
Speaker 6: of training camp to now, he has not disappointed in
21:11
Speaker 6: any way.
21:12
Speaker 2: It's a contract here for him.
21:13
Speaker 3: We always talk about running backs, you know, people feel
21:15
Speaker 3: like there's a short shelf life. But he's really made
21:17
Speaker 3: a market for himself because he contributes to in the
21:20
Speaker 3: past game as well. And I know, whether it's here
21:23
Speaker 3: or wherever he gets an extension and a further contract,
21:25
Speaker 3: he's going to have a lot of success going forward.
21:27
Speaker 6: If you're running back in this league and you're not.
21:28
Speaker 6: Your name is not Saquon Barkley or Jonathan Taylor. It
21:31
Speaker 6: just depends on what you want. If you're willing to
21:33
Speaker 6: make a deal because you see the situation fits you,
21:36
Speaker 6: you like the franchise. If you're willing to accept something
21:39
Speaker 6: more less than the top of the market, then you
21:41
Speaker 6: might be able to get a deal done. But if
21:43
Speaker 6: his expectation is to become the highest paid running back
21:45
Speaker 6: in the league, then that's probably not likely.
21:47
Speaker 3: We will see how that turns around. Stay with us
21:49
Speaker 3: here on jag XAM though. We're going to have some
21:51
Speaker 3: hot takes for you when we come back after the
21:53
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22:05
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I feel like no
22:06
Speaker 1: one likes except for us, you know, and I feel
22:09
Speaker 1: like it just goes along with just just being this
22:13
Speaker 1: organization with organization that's been for quite some time now.
22:16
Speaker 1: So we're not going to get their respect. We kind
22:18
Speaker 1: of don't even care as long as we know what
22:21
Speaker 1: we got in the stop the locker room and we
22:22
Speaker 1: can go out there and take it, you know. I mean,
22:24
Speaker 1: there's no better feeling than just being disrespected and having
22:27
Speaker 1: an extra chip on your should to play on the
22:28
Speaker 1: extra edge. So it just gives the extra motivation going
22:31
Speaker 1: each and every Sunday. But we kind of know where
22:33
Speaker 1: it is going, and I've been here. This is my
22:35
Speaker 1: fifth year now, it's kind of been the same song,
22:37
Speaker 1: and no one's gonna just pay us to be the
22:42
Speaker 1: person to win it all. So we got to go
22:43
Speaker 1: out there and take it. And I love that coach Corn.
22:45
Speaker 1: It kind of plays into that and he kind of
22:46
Speaker 1: gives that edge. You know, He's a great motivator, and
22:48
Speaker 1: I feel like that's why we have to go out
22:50
Speaker 1: of each and every Sunday and just have that extra edge.
22:54
Speaker 3: Very cohesive messaging. I feel like everybody's on the same page.
22:56
Speaker 3: I know we say that a ton, but when you
22:58
Speaker 3: could feel the energy like they're all moving in the
23:00
Speaker 3: same direction.
23:01
Speaker 6: Right now, you try to qualify a locker room, and
23:03
Speaker 6: it's tough to describe to people who aren't in it
23:06
Speaker 6: what it feels like. Last year felt disconnected. That happens
23:10
Speaker 6: when you're four and thirteen. This year feels like, as
23:13
Speaker 6: you just mentioned, everybody's kind of got the same message.
23:14
Speaker 6: They've got the same vibe. A lot of credit goes
23:16
Speaker 6: to coach Cohen and the staff that he's put together
23:19
Speaker 6: because the culture, the standard, you use your word, choose it,
23:24
Speaker 6: it's all right there.
23:26
Speaker 7: Well, sometimes that's self fulfilling because winning is better than losing.
23:32
Speaker 2: Winning, so it's easy, it's easier.
23:35
Speaker 7: To keep you on the same page. But credit to
23:38
Speaker 7: the bunch who take this organization over for setting the
23:42
Speaker 7: foundation for this to happen. And there's many moving parts
23:46
Speaker 7: to camaraderie, but somebody's got to set the parts or
23:51
Speaker 7: give it a foundation and a structure where those parts
23:55
Speaker 7: can come together.
23:55
Speaker 5: And they've done that.
23:56
Speaker 3: And the buying from the people that have been here
23:58
Speaker 3: as well, like we're seeing traves etn or Brian, you've
24:00
Speaker 3: seen some buy in. I think that kind of goes
24:02
Speaker 3: with your hot take the body.
24:03
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly. I should have titled this and given you
24:06
Speaker 6: a better headline earning their money. So midweek quick thoughts
24:11
Speaker 6: after the Houston loss, I wrote that Trevor Lawrence and
24:14
Speaker 6: Josh heinz Allen were your highest paid players, and they
24:18
Speaker 6: were your best players and it was time for them
24:20
Speaker 6: to deliver, and neither one of them did. In the
24:21
Speaker 6: fourth quarter of that game. But since then, those two
24:24
Speaker 6: guys have delivered. They have come through with big performances,
24:28
Speaker 6: big throws, big sacks. The two best players on your team,
24:32
Speaker 6: the two guys that got the life changing, record setting contracts,
24:37
Speaker 6: are both playing their best football right now. And it's clear, John,
24:41
Speaker 6: they are lifting their teammates up, who are rising to
24:45
Speaker 6: meet their standard. It's incredibly how's the right word fortunate
24:51
Speaker 6: for the Jaguars at this moment in time, sitting in
24:54
Speaker 6: first place in the AFC South with four games left
24:56
Speaker 6: and their destiny in front of them, that their best
24:58
Speaker 6: players are playing their best football.
25:01
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the right time for it to happen. They're
25:05
Speaker 7: making teammates better. Your take is better than my take
25:10
Speaker 7: this morning, So congratulations to your a big winner. You're
25:12
Speaker 7: like eleven and five now, they're much better every of
25:18
Speaker 7: the exact wording online.
25:19
Speaker 5: But they're much better.
25:21
Speaker 7: Than I thought they would be, much quicker than I
25:23
Speaker 7: thought they would be. I thought from the time this
25:26
Speaker 7: regime gut here. Once he started talking to Liam and
25:28
Speaker 7: James and Tony, but he was going to go in
25:30
Speaker 7: the right direction. I thought maybe it was.
25:32
Speaker 5: An eight or nine win team.
25:34
Speaker 7: Their ability to change this team on the fly, especially
25:39
Speaker 7: at the receiver position. Tim Patrick and I Jacoby Myers
25:43
Speaker 7: were too their best players in the field yesterday. Nobody
25:47
Speaker 7: was talking around here in June. You know why because
25:50
Speaker 7: they weren't here. So remarkable job committing to playing they
25:58
Speaker 7: talked about intangibly rich all off seat. You can sit
26:02
Speaker 7: there during a season and say, well, we'll be better
26:05
Speaker 7: next off season. They haven't done that. They made sure
26:09
Speaker 7: all year that they kept tweaking spots. The secondary, it's
26:13
Speaker 7: been injured all year, the receiver position, even Cole van
26:16
Speaker 7: landon the offensive line. They've made sure that they're getting
26:20
Speaker 7: the best players at that moment in the field, not
26:23
Speaker 7: the highest draft picks, not the guys who look the
26:25
Speaker 7: best in the uniform. The foundation here is so solid
26:30
Speaker 7: moving forward to already be nine and four in that
26:36
Speaker 7: it's it's what fans have.
26:38
Speaker 5: Waited for around here a long time.
26:40
Speaker 6: Well, and when you look at it, you try to
26:41
Speaker 6: figure out the schedule, the record. You look at the
26:43
Speaker 6: schedule and you look at the roster and you're trying
26:45
Speaker 6: to figure out who's gonna rise and where they need
26:47
Speaker 6: to get help. Right, But you you can't factor in
26:50
Speaker 6: the locker room and you can't factor in how a
26:52
Speaker 6: team loses a nineteen point lead and then comes back
26:55
Speaker 6: to next week and just kicks the Chargers ass. I mean,
26:58
Speaker 6: it's just it's unbelievable some of the things that have happened.
27:02
Speaker 6: And again that goes back to Baciley, Gladstone and Cohen
27:05
Speaker 6: and the way that they laid the groundwork, the foundation
27:07
Speaker 6: for it to happen this year, and then the players
27:09
Speaker 6: came through and just hit it right down the fairway.
27:12
Speaker 5: Yeah.
27:12
Speaker 7: And I think one thing, you know, and again I
27:15
Speaker 7: don't spend a lot of time thinking about what national
27:16
Speaker 7: media talks about because they never know teams like we did.
27:19
Speaker 7: But the disrespect thing, it's teams beaten. The Chiefs, the
27:26
Speaker 7: forty nine Ers, the Panthers, the Colts, the Texans, the Chargers,
27:30
Speaker 7: all those teams are winning teams. Yeah, this is not
27:33
Speaker 7: a team that has fluked its way against a fourth
27:35
Speaker 7: place schedule into being in first place. They're beating good teams.
27:39
Speaker 5: That matters.
27:40
Speaker 2: John. I think I was with you at the begining
27:42
Speaker 2: of the season.
27:42
Speaker 3: I was like ten and seven probably where I expected
27:45
Speaker 3: them to be, you know, just not knowing.
27:47
Speaker 5: Don I think they get to ten?
27:48
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that was.
27:49
Speaker 3: My optimistic point of view was ten and seven. But
27:52
Speaker 3: I'm ready to admit I can drinking it feel kool aid.
27:56
Speaker 2: I'm all in.
27:57
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna win the rest of the way,
27:58
Speaker 3: and I feel confident about that, mostly because of what
28:01
Speaker 3: I saw out of Trevor Lawrence. We talked about the
28:03
Speaker 3: national media saying that was maybe the best game they've
28:05
Speaker 3: seen from him. I can say in the three years
28:06
Speaker 3: that I've been here, because I wasn't here for the
28:08
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two playoff run, that's the most other than
28:11
Speaker 3: maybe the beginning of the Bengals game, that's the best
28:14
Speaker 3: game I've seen out of the most complete game I've
28:16
Speaker 3: seen out of Trevor Lawrence. He was commanding, he was calm,
28:18
Speaker 3: He was doing crazy rollouts to the backside where I
28:21
Speaker 3: was like, please don't do that, and then making crazy
28:23
Speaker 3: plays to Tim Patrick. He had the deep game going.
28:27
Speaker 3: He ran when he needed to. I now feel confident
28:30
Speaker 3: in this offense that they can go on the road.
28:32
Speaker 3: We've seen him go on the road and get tough wins,
28:33
Speaker 3: like when they went to the forty nine ers.
28:35
Speaker 2: Before.
28:36
Speaker 3: I was very concerned about this Denver game going into it,
28:39
Speaker 3: I do not think it will be easy. They could
28:40
Speaker 3: lose that game, but I now feel confident going in
28:43
Speaker 3: where I won't.
28:44
Speaker 2: Be surprised if they win.
28:45
Speaker 3: Before I was like, if I was looking at a schedule,
28:47
Speaker 3: it's say, oh, Denver in December, no chance. I don't
28:50
Speaker 3: feel that way anymore so till cool Aid is good
28:52
Speaker 3: with me.
28:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, four games left. I'm gonna start looking ahead
28:58
Speaker 7: because it's so much happens. But you're nine to four,
29:03
Speaker 7: two and two, three and one are very attamable. This
29:08
Speaker 7: is a good team as long as it plays how
29:11
Speaker 7: it's been playing the last month.
29:13
Speaker 6: I'm with you. There are people who will not trust
29:16
Speaker 6: Trevor completely. They will be waiting for him to throw
29:18
Speaker 6: an interception. And I'm not saying there aren't some of
29:21
Speaker 6: those ahead. But he is playing at an other worldly
29:24
Speaker 6: level for him. He has stepped up. If that wasn't
29:27
Speaker 6: his best game, it's one of his two best games,
29:29
Speaker 6: and that's a great sign.
29:30
Speaker 3: It's where the trust comes in. Trevor proved me right.
29:32
Speaker 3: Go and get a win in Denver, but first a
29:34
Speaker 3: win against the Jets. Stay with us here, we'll tell
29:36
Speaker 3: you what's coming up later on this week. This Sunday's
29:46
Speaker 3: game against the Jets. Brought to you by Geico. It
29:49
Speaker 3: feels good to fake O.
29:52
Speaker 4: All pre phases dominate, all pre phases straight dominate, guys.
30:00
Speaker 6: So proud of you, man. That's a big win, Baby,
30:04
Speaker 6: that's a big win.
30:09
Speaker 8: Shod Man.
30:10
Speaker 6: Just talking about being at your best when your best
30:12
Speaker 6: is required. These are the type of games, These are
30:15
Speaker 6: the moments.
30:17
Speaker 5: These are the moments, and.
30:19
Speaker 6: We rose to the occasion.
30:20
Speaker 4: Every single one of you guys should be so freaking
30:23
Speaker 4: proud to go.
30:24
Speaker 6: Look yourself in the mirror tonight. Love you guys. How
30:28
Speaker 6: about our freaking quarterback?
30:36
Speaker 3: About that quarterback? Got the full buy in there? You
30:39
Speaker 3: love to see it.
30:41
Speaker 2: Liam makes me proud of myself. He's got give such
30:43
Speaker 2: a good speech.
30:44
Speaker 6: The connection is there. I mean, it's just if people
30:47
Speaker 6: want to know about a younger coach. I mean, there
30:49
Speaker 6: is a connection in that room that you just it's
30:51
Speaker 6: tough to find. So their respect thing has been coming
30:54
Speaker 6: up all weeks. I just want to just play. Just
30:56
Speaker 6: offered this and I can, of course tie everything back
30:58
Speaker 6: to the ninety six season, but I remember and you
31:01
Speaker 6: were standing there too, that day that Keenan McCardell announced
31:04
Speaker 6: to the world? Why not us? I think the Jaguars
31:06
Speaker 6: were five and seven, maybe six and seven. You're thinking,
31:10
Speaker 6: you mean, what playoff? See He's like, why can't we
31:13
Speaker 6: get hot and do something special? Why not us? And
31:17
Speaker 6: it kind of became the rally and cry. And I
31:19
Speaker 6: listened to these guys talk about respect. I keep thinking, well,
31:22
Speaker 6: who's going to step up and say, listen, we've beaten
31:24
Speaker 6: the Chargers, we've beaten the Colts, we've beaten the Chiefs.
31:27
Speaker 6: Why can't we? You know, you said Denver was one
31:30
Speaker 6: that you looked at and you said, well, that's going
31:31
Speaker 6: to be really tough. It is, but you have confidence
31:33
Speaker 6: in the quarterback the way he's playing. Why not us?
31:36
Speaker 6: Why not have that mentality? With four games to play?
31:38
Speaker 6: And nobody in that locker room has said those words John,
31:41
Speaker 6: But I do get that feeling when I'm around these
31:43
Speaker 6: guys that they're kind of thinking, man, we can do
31:45
Speaker 6: anything we want.
31:46
Speaker 9: Yeah.
31:47
Speaker 7: If if they can grab hold of the underdog us
31:50
Speaker 7: against the world thing, more power to him.
31:54
Speaker 5: This team started four and one. They've beaten good teams
31:56
Speaker 5: all year.
31:57
Speaker 7: I think what's most impressive about this team is they've
31:59
Speaker 7: been good for the start, remain good and basically had
32:02
Speaker 7: a two game hiccup against two great teams in the
32:04
Speaker 7: Rams and the This is a good team that has
32:07
Speaker 7: really only lost a good team since Cincinnati.
32:09
Speaker 5: So yeah, why not us, I'll tell you why not then?
32:13
Speaker 7: Because they're really good, and yeah, they can beat anybody
32:17
Speaker 7: in the AFC. And I think they're gonna wind up,
32:20
Speaker 7: you know, with the somewhere in the top three seeds.
32:23
Speaker 5: Can they catch the top two? They got a shot,
32:26
Speaker 5: They got a shot.
32:27
Speaker 6: I really ask yourself this question, right, I mean, Drake
32:30
Speaker 6: may is unbeatable. Bo Nix is unbeatable. Justin Herbert's beatable.
32:34
Speaker 3: Right.
32:35
Speaker 6: At one point in this season, he looked like he
32:36
Speaker 6: was the guy. Daniel Jones was supposed to be an
32:39
Speaker 6: MVP type candidate when they were seven and one. Anything
32:42
Speaker 6: can happen for this football team the rest of the way.
32:45
Speaker 6: If the quarterback continues to play the way that he's
32:47
Speaker 6: playing and Josh Heines Allen in the defense played like
32:50
Speaker 6: they did yesterday, this team is capable of making a run.
32:53
Speaker 6: And here's where it's going to be interesting this week.
32:55
Speaker 6: Two challenges, they're gonna get respect, it's coming. It's coming
32:59
Speaker 6: this week. And then you've got the Jets, and everyone's
33:03
Speaker 6: gonna expect you to pummel the Jets after the Dolphins
33:07
Speaker 6: just did so. The challenge for the coaches get your
33:09
Speaker 6: team ready to go, have them ready to play as
33:12
Speaker 6: if they're playing the Colts again this week.
33:14
Speaker 2: Not easy to do. It is not.
33:16
Speaker 3: We will have a couple of days this week Wednesday
33:18
Speaker 3: and Thursday to kind of go over preview that Jets matchup.
33:22
Speaker 3: But today, just enjoy victory Monday. We'll see you later
33:25
Speaker 3: this week.