Latest / Revealing Wholeness with Dr.Troy / Osteoporosis: Beyond Medications to Natural Bone Health...
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- 0:22Speaker 1: Welcome to Revealing Wholeness podcast dedicated to revealing the profound
- 0:26Speaker 1: connections between body, mind, and spirit, where we believe that
- 0:29Speaker 1: true wellness arises from addressing the root causes of our
- 0:32Speaker 1: health challenges, not just masking the symptoms. Here we dive
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- 0:44Speaker 1: Now Here is doctor Troy.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Hello and welcome. I'm doctor Troy as just chatting with
- 0:56Speaker 3: the client that I have had for a long time,
- 0:58Speaker 3: and we're discussing this idea of taking fosamax, which is
- 1:02Speaker 3: what her doctor wants to put her on for osteoporosis.
- 1:06Speaker 3: And we've been doing some other wonderful things like vitamin
- 1:11Speaker 3: K two and calcium in different forms of calcium, and
- 1:14Speaker 3: I was explaining kind of what is happening within the
- 1:17Speaker 3: bone structure and how these medications work. I thought, why
- 1:21Speaker 3: don't I just explain it on a podcast. So we
- 1:25Speaker 3: have these cells within our bone. They're called osteoblasts and osteoclasts. Now,
- 1:30Speaker 3: osteoclasts look a lot like our immune cells that if
- 1:35Speaker 3: you do any kind of search on the web and
- 1:38Speaker 3: look up macrophage, you'll find that they're quite large cells,
- 1:42Speaker 3: and they tend to engulf and eat up debris. That's
- 1:45Speaker 3: basically their job, and they're big. Well, osteoclasts are kind
- 1:51Speaker 3: of the same thing. They're big and they eat up bone,
- 1:55Speaker 3: so they release hydrochloric acid to digest bone protein and
- 2:01Speaker 3: the protein matrix of bone so that an osteoblast can
- 2:06Speaker 3: come along behind it and make new bone. But if
- 2:10Speaker 3: osteoclast activity gets too over excited, let's say it's remodeling bone,
- 2:17Speaker 3: but it can release calcium and now un left unchecked,
- 2:21Speaker 3: they think can become osteoporotic in other things. While that
- 2:26Speaker 3: is likely the case, there are many more factors than
- 2:29Speaker 3: just an osteoclass that has lost control. It really is
- 2:33Speaker 3: what's available to the bone matrix and what's the demand
- 2:36Speaker 3: of the tissues of the body. Because the bone will
- 2:38Speaker 3: respond to the demands of the body. And if the
- 2:41Speaker 3: body says, look, we don't have a lot of calcium
- 2:43Speaker 3: in our diet, and if we don't have any calcium,
- 2:46Speaker 3: our heart is going to stop. So I don't care bones.
- 2:49Speaker 3: If you get thin and osteoporotic and we break things,
- 2:53Speaker 3: we aren't going to be alive if you don't give
- 2:55Speaker 3: us any calcium so that the heart can beat. So
- 2:58Speaker 3: it's these other aspects of the body that we can't
- 3:02Speaker 3: just say, hey, doing fosamax or one of these medications
- 3:06Speaker 3: that is going to slow osteoclast activity so that I
- 3:10Speaker 3: can hopefully keep my bone structure a little bit longer
- 3:14Speaker 3: and not have a fracture. Well, that's all well and good,
- 3:19Speaker 3: But at the expense of osteoclast activity. Every time you
- 3:24Speaker 3: take a step, every time you go up and down stairs,
- 3:30Speaker 3: sit down too hard, cut vegetables, carry a bag, I
- 3:36Speaker 3: don't care what it is, mow a lawn, you are
- 3:39Speaker 3: going to do micro damage to the bones. Now, if
- 3:42Speaker 3: we look at the bone itself and we say, okay, well,
- 3:45Speaker 3: how many cells are there in a bone, I don't
- 3:48Speaker 3: know trillions. Who is any idea, I'm sure there's a lot.
- 3:52Speaker 3: So let's say, just for giggles, that there's one hundred
- 3:55Speaker 3: thousand cells from edge of my armbone to the other
- 4:00Speaker 3: edge of my armbone. I'm not talking about all the
- 4:02Speaker 3: way through the length of the arm bone. I'm just
- 4:04Speaker 3: talking about across the armbone. And if I, oh, let's say,
- 4:10Speaker 3: whack a pickleball, which I've been known to do on occasion,
- 4:13Speaker 3: and every time I do. Let's say I have a
- 4:16Speaker 3: microfracture in a cell. Well, I've got lots of cells
- 4:21Speaker 3: all over the bones, and so those cells are microfracturing.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Is it painful? No? Is it a problem? Well? Yes,
- 4:30Speaker 3: left over time, and so the osteoclasts know that this happens.
- 4:34Speaker 3: So they just constantly in there plowing through bone and
- 4:38Speaker 3: everything that they touch. Since they're big, they might go
- 4:41Speaker 3: through three or four layers of bone at one time
- 4:45Speaker 3: and leave behind a hole, if you will, a matrix,
- 4:49Speaker 3: so that osteoblasts can come back through and now establish
- 4:53Speaker 3: good new bone matrix so that it's strong. Again. That's
- 4:58Speaker 3: normal bone repair. It's happening constantly and right now in
- 5:02Speaker 3: your body too. So these osteoclasts tend to look like
- 5:07Speaker 3: or even function like macrophases in our immune system, and
- 5:12Speaker 3: so they decided that if we could create a drug
- 5:15Speaker 3: that would affect macrophases, perhaps it will affect osteoclass too.
- 5:20Speaker 3: And from what I can gather, that's fairly accurate that
- 5:24Speaker 3: they can decrease osteoclastic activity, but at the expense of
- 5:28Speaker 3: what At the expense of not repairing bone and eventually
- 5:32Speaker 3: you just have a massive fracture. So we've been experimenting
- 5:37Speaker 3: because she wants her bone to be remodeled faster and
- 5:40Speaker 3: thicker than it is. And I said, well, here's what
- 5:43Speaker 3: we have to work with. We have to at least
- 5:45Speaker 3: get enough calcium into your body daily so that there
- 5:48Speaker 3: is an over abundance of calcium and make it available
- 5:52Speaker 3: to your osteoblasts so that they can make new healthy
- 5:55Speaker 3: bone by incorporating more calcium that is available to them
- 5:59Speaker 3: in the bloodstream. You have to have protein and be
- 6:02Speaker 3: able to digest it. So you have to have a
- 6:04Speaker 3: good digestive system to be able to make the collagen
- 6:07Speaker 3: matrix that you're going to be supporting that bone in
- 6:11Speaker 3: as well, because bone is a lot of protein. Not
- 6:14Speaker 3: only that, but you need boron and phosphorus and other
- 6:17Speaker 3: trace minerals that all belong in that bone structure to
- 6:20Speaker 3: make new healthy bone so that those osteoblasts can actually
- 6:24Speaker 3: do their job. All of this is to say that
- 6:27Speaker 3: we could stimulate hormone production with vitamin K two to
- 6:32Speaker 3: help those osteoblasts and stimulate them so that they work
- 6:35Speaker 3: faster and better. And now all of this is possible.
- 6:38Speaker 3: But now, what's the time frame. Can I have a
- 6:41Speaker 3: brand new skeletal system in a week? Well, if you
- 6:44Speaker 3: have a fracture, does it take a week to heal? Well? No,
- 6:48Speaker 3: you're right. You're going to lay down a fair amount
- 6:51Speaker 3: of collagen in that fracture, and by about six to
- 6:54Speaker 3: eight weeks, it's going to be stable enough that you
- 6:57Speaker 3: can do a lot of things with that bone, but
- 6:59Speaker 3: it will still not necessarily be completely healed. It's going
- 7:02Speaker 3: to be remodeling itself for a while, but at least
- 7:06Speaker 3: is strong enough to do things. So the bone system,
- 7:09Speaker 3: this skeletal system, is completely new every seven years. You
- 7:15Speaker 3: heard me, right, It takes seven years to remodel your
- 7:19Speaker 3: entire skeleton. So this is not a short term situation.
- 7:24Speaker 3: This is a long end game process. If you are
- 7:29Speaker 3: osteopenic or thinning bones, or if you are osteoporotic where
- 7:34Speaker 3: you have a lot of loss of bone matrix. This
- 7:37Speaker 3: isn't a short fix. This is something that is going
- 7:41Speaker 3: to take effort and time. You might ask yourself, well,
- 7:46Speaker 3: how did my bones get thin like this? Why aren't
- 7:49Speaker 3: other people's Well, for some, it just so happens that
- 7:53Speaker 3: sugar is a bit more detrimental. And if you don't
- 7:56Speaker 3: have a lot of calcium reserves from when you were little,
- 7:59Speaker 3: and you tend to eat a lot of carbohydrates or
- 8:01Speaker 3: sugar or bread or pasta that requires calcium to help
- 8:06Speaker 3: balance blood sugar. And so if all of that is true,
- 8:10Speaker 3: and let's say now, not only are you an athlete,
- 8:13Speaker 3: you could have an osteopenic situation going on even though
- 8:17Speaker 3: you're fella fairly active and not overweight, but you haven't
- 8:21Speaker 3: been able to digest and process the proteins correctly or
- 8:25Speaker 3: have enough calcium in your diet to get that calcium
- 8:29Speaker 3: to your bones. And you may also be a little
- 8:33Speaker 3: bit deficient in vitamin K two to stimulate the hormones
- 8:37Speaker 3: that are required to build bone. So all this together
- 8:41Speaker 3: is really a comprehensive look at how do we really
- 8:46Speaker 3: build new bone and Ultimately, we want you to go
- 8:49Speaker 3: through that process of shocking the bone doing water exercises
- 8:55Speaker 3: where your body is completely weightless and it's not going
- 8:59Speaker 3: through any kind of quote unquote trauma or shock like
- 9:03Speaker 3: doing jumping jumping jacks or jumping rope or something that
- 9:08Speaker 3: is of that nature, then okay, we need to do
- 9:11Speaker 3: something different with you, because your bones are not saying, hey,
- 9:15Speaker 3: this is pretty easy. I'm just weightless in water. I
- 9:18Speaker 3: don't have to be that strong. But those that are
- 9:21Speaker 3: using their bones and really pushing the envelope, their bones
- 9:24Speaker 3: are going to demand more calcium. So with that in mind,
- 9:29Speaker 3: there may be two or three or four different types
- 9:32Speaker 3: of calcium you may want to consider. And while I've
- 9:34Speaker 3: talked at length about calcium and have mentioned calcium lactate
- 9:40Speaker 3: is much easier absorbed in probably a better form of
- 9:44Speaker 3: blood food calcium, it may require bone food calcium as well. Now,
- 9:50Speaker 3: the hydroxy appetite that I've seen in some products, I
- 9:53Speaker 3: don't know how they process it. Our bone itself we
- 9:56Speaker 3: could consider as hydroxy appetit. While that may be a
- 10:02Speaker 3: nice decent form, I have my suspicions that those products
- 10:07Speaker 3: that have that type of calcium are overheating the bone
- 10:10Speaker 3: and literally destroying it. So to get a really good
- 10:15Speaker 3: whole bone matrix, you're pretty much stuck doing something like
- 10:20Speaker 3: a bone broth or going with a whole food supplement
- 10:23Speaker 3: that does not heat their bones at all and tries
- 10:26Speaker 3: to destroy them. So a good calcium supplant bone is
- 10:30Speaker 3: going to be from a whole bone matrix that is
- 10:32Speaker 3: very limitedly heated. And they're out there, they're just few
- 10:36Speaker 3: and far between, and so we'll we'll get to that
- 10:40Speaker 3: in subsequent episodes, but at least wanted to have kind
- 10:44Speaker 3: of an idea of what it takes and would we
- 10:47Speaker 3: want to do fossamax, Would we really want to slow
- 10:49Speaker 3: down osteoclastic activity if our bone matrix is thin or osteoporotic.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Now we're doing a minor dose with this particular client
- 11:00Speaker 3: of mine and we're going to be watching what happens,
- 11:03Speaker 3: and so we're interested and we're you know, she's being
- 11:07Speaker 3: the guinea pig, which is great. So as things unfold,
- 11:10Speaker 3: it isn't going to be heyl report next week, how
- 11:12Speaker 3: our bone density is. It's going to be next year
- 11:14Speaker 3: or the year after. And doing dexas scans that we've
- 11:18Speaker 3: talked about in the past on podcasts, so I would
- 11:21Speaker 3: love to tell you that the information was at least
- 11:24Speaker 3: available now. But I'm just telling you what we're doing
- 11:27Speaker 3: and what could be possible, so that it might give
- 11:29Speaker 3: you some ideas about how do I want to approach
- 11:33Speaker 3: my bones becoming stronger and healthier. And so you might
- 11:37Speaker 3: want to re listen to this and listen to some
- 11:39Speaker 3: of the things that I'll have clients on to help
- 11:42Speaker 3: rebuild their bone. But again, I mean, these are long
- 11:46Speaker 3: term studies that we're wanting to do. We know how
- 11:48Speaker 3: the bone is made, we know how these cells work,
- 11:52Speaker 3: and we know the hormones that stimulate them to do
- 11:54Speaker 3: their job. And so that's why I bring you this
- 11:57Speaker 3: information so that you have a little bit more complete
- 11:59Speaker 3: knowledge as we're not trying to spin wheels. As we
- 12:03Speaker 3: discover new things, we'll keep reporting them and stay at
- 12:06Speaker 3: the cutting edge of that so that we can have
- 12:09Speaker 3: this wonderful, active, beautiful, amazing life that we want without
- 12:13Speaker 3: worry about whether or not we're going to fracture something.
- 12:16Speaker 3: So I hope that was helpful. If you have any questions, concerns,
- 12:19Speaker 3: or comments, I'd love to hear them. Until next time,
- 12:21Speaker 3: I'm doctor Troy, and remember there is way more right
- 12:24Speaker 3: with you than there is wrong with you.
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