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- 0:05Speaker 1: An NFL star and his wife found dead, shot to
- 0:11Speaker 1: death in their own bed, in their own home. What happened?
- 0:17Speaker 1: I mean, I see grace. This is crime Stories. Thank
- 0:20Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Fox Nation and
- 0:22Speaker 1: Series X one eleven. First of all, take a listen
- 0:26Speaker 1: to this fifty three fourteen Palmetto Street, the time stamp
- 0:30Speaker 1: one forty am the morning of July twenty ninth, twenty sixteen.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Inside is seemingly scared. Antonio Armstrong Junior on the phone
- 0:39Speaker 1: with a nine one one dispatcher, claiming minutes earlier he
- 0:43Speaker 1: heard gunfire. Any medical attention needed, asked the dispatcher, Yes,
- 0:47Speaker 1: replied The then sixteen year old video recorded later that
- 0:51Speaker 1: morning by a crime scene unit investigator for the Houston
- 0:54Speaker 1: Police Department traces the trail to the second floor master bedroom,
- 0:58Speaker 1: the place where Tonio Armstrong Senior and wife Don were shot.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Both died. He played football for Texas A and M
- 1:06Speaker 1: before joining the Miami Dolphins as a linebacker. We featured
- 1:09Speaker 1: his wife Don in a news story a few years ago,
- 1:12Speaker 1: talking about a quilt she was making for her son
- 1:14Speaker 1: going off to college. Since the news of the double
- 1:17Speaker 1: shooting broke this morning, Antonio's Facebook page is filling up
- 1:20Speaker 1: with comments from friends saying they just can't believe what
- 1:23Speaker 1: has happened to this family. And we also know Antonio
- 1:27Speaker 1: coached the Southwest Football League here for more than a decade.
- 1:31Speaker 1: We will certainly keep you updated on his condition. Right now,
- 1:34Speaker 1: he is fighting to stay alive. You are hearing our
- 1:36Speaker 1: friends at KPRC and KATRK covering the shootings at the
- 1:41Speaker 1: time they happened. Antonio Armstrong a superstar? Did fame have
- 1:48Speaker 1: anything to do with the murder of him and his wife?
- 1:51Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel? But first to Dave
- 1:53Speaker 1: Matt Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. For those people
- 1:57Speaker 1: that don't know who anton Armstrong was, Phillipson, Antonio Armstrong
- 2:04Speaker 1: Nancy was. He was the All American guy. He played
- 2:09Speaker 1: football at Texas A and m He was good enough
- 2:12Speaker 1: to be drafted into the NFL and spent time with
- 2:14Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers and then a number
- 2:17Speaker 1: of years with the Miami Dolphins. This was a guy
- 2:20Speaker 1: that people said, what a good man. But on top
- 2:24Speaker 1: of the athletics, Nancy he was into fitness, healthy eating,
- 2:27Speaker 1: a healthy lifestyle. He also was the pastor associate pastor
- 2:32Speaker 1: at his mother's home church. So all week long he
- 2:35Speaker 1: worked with youth coaching football, he gave motivational speeches and
- 2:40Speaker 1: put things on YouTube about living a healthy life, being
- 2:43Speaker 1: healthy inside and out. And then on the weekend he's
- 2:46Speaker 1: unbread church and he's again in a leadership position there.
- 2:49Speaker 1: So all American, good guy and a natural born leader
- 2:53Speaker 1: and a happy family. You know. Karen starting joining me
- 2:57Speaker 1: right now psychologists joinings out of Manhattan at karen start
- 3:00Speaker 1: dot com. It's Karen with a See Karen. You and
- 3:04Speaker 1: I talked about this so many times. I've investigated and prosecuted,
- 3:09Speaker 1: put plenty of dope dealers away, drug lords, child molesters,
- 3:14Speaker 1: you name it. But it always especially hurts when you
- 3:19Speaker 1: see a great person, just good natured, innocent, hard working, dedicated,
- 3:30Speaker 1: this guy devoted to his family. It hurts when you
- 3:33Speaker 1: see a really great person. You know, the good people
- 3:38Speaker 1: in the world just cut down, mow down. And that's
- 3:41Speaker 1: that's exactly where that comes from. Answered this idea of
- 3:45Speaker 1: you know, only the good dim It's this idea that
- 3:49Speaker 1: this guy everybody talks about, what a great family, how
- 3:53Speaker 1: wonderful he was, and that makes it just devastating to
- 3:58Speaker 1: think that he's killed like that. And another thing, did
- 4:01Speaker 1: you hear what the mother was doing. The mother was
- 4:05Speaker 1: hand quilting a quilt for her son to take away
- 4:11Speaker 1: to college. It reminds me of my little niece when
- 4:15Speaker 1: her I think, when her little brother was going to college.
- 4:20Speaker 1: She his favorite team is the Braves, and she hand
- 4:23Speaker 1: quilted him a quilt made out of all the Braves,
- 4:28Speaker 1: you know, logos and the team member numbers and just
- 4:32Speaker 1: anything to do with the Braves. It took her forever
- 4:36Speaker 1: to do that. And here is the mom, just out
- 4:39Speaker 1: of love quilting a quilt for the son to take
- 4:41Speaker 1: away to college. I mean, they're dedicated parents and he's
- 4:46Speaker 1: also a football star. What more do we know about
- 4:49Speaker 1: the family? Take a listen our friends at crime Online,
- 4:53Speaker 1: Dawn and Antonio Armstrong. Their eighteen year marriage was the
- 4:57Speaker 1: all American dream. The couple was raising bright, outgoing and
- 5:01Speaker 1: accomplished children. They were savy entrepreneurs, owning a small chain
- 5:05Speaker 1: of local gems. At one time, Antonio Armstrong was a
- 5:09Speaker 1: respected football player. He played for Texas A and M
- 5:12Speaker 1: in college and went on to play for the Miami Dolphins.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Alongside running the gems, Armstrong was a motivational speaker and
- 5:20Speaker 1: an assistant pastor at his mother's church. Dawn, in addition
- 5:24Speaker 1: to help running the businesses, spends a lot of time
- 5:27Speaker 1: volunteering or driving her children to their various sports practices.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Don Armstrong's family always came first, and it showed on
- 5:35Speaker 1: her Facebook page, which was filled with beach vacations, cars
- 5:40Speaker 1: and exclusive private school life for her kids. A lot
- 5:43Speaker 1: of their family life and motivational speaking, a community service.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Just a really loving family is featured even on YouTube
- 5:53Speaker 1: take list our fens at KTRK. Everyone we've spoken to
- 5:56Speaker 1: has described this family as all American, a loving family.
- 6:00Speaker 1: I want to show you Antonio Armstrong. He ran this
- 6:03Speaker 1: gym in bel Air. It's called First First Class Training.
- 6:06Speaker 1: He ran it with his wife Don. She was a
- 6:10Speaker 1: business partner of his. Now, according to sources, she died
- 6:13Speaker 1: in this morning shooting Hello every One. Antonio is known
- 6:18Speaker 1: for advocating health and fitness. He's also a motivational speaker.
- 6:22Speaker 1: These are videos he made on YouTube. The latest one
- 6:25Speaker 1: was posted just this last week straight out to Dave
- 6:28Speaker 1: mac joining us from crime online dot Com. Dave, tell
- 6:32Speaker 1: me about the neighborhood and tell me about the shootings.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Were they both in the same bed, were they in
- 6:38Speaker 1: the master bedroom? How many times were they shot? Anything
- 6:41Speaker 1: you can tell me about the facts. All right, here
- 6:43Speaker 1: we go. This is a it's an upscale neighborhood, Nancy.
- 6:46Speaker 1: It's a town home. We're talking about a three story
- 6:50Speaker 1: town home. The bedroom where Antonio and Don were shot
- 6:56Speaker 1: is on the second floor. They were both in bed,
- 7:00Speaker 1: and they were both shot in the head. Again, it's
- 7:03Speaker 1: a quiet, upscaled neighborhood. I don't know how much you
- 7:06Speaker 1: know about Houston, but you know Houston in this particular
- 7:08Speaker 1: area is a well to do section of town. It's
- 7:11Speaker 1: not a town home like you know, an apartment complex
- 7:14Speaker 1: that you had seen aor a university. This is one
- 7:16Speaker 1: of those expensive, upscale town homes. And again it's three stories.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Their bedroom was on the second floor, as was their daughters.
- 7:23Speaker 1: You know another thing about the town homes, they're connected.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Now I'm saying that, I mean like his unit is
- 7:31Speaker 1: actually connected to another unit, and that is significant to me.
- 7:37Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go to you. James Shellnut joining me
- 7:42Speaker 1: twenty seven years on Metro major case including Swat now
- 7:48Speaker 1: lawyer at the Shellnut firm. When you have a crime
- 7:52Speaker 1: like this double murder. Go down in a home, second
- 7:55Speaker 1: floor and connect to condos. That great reduces your points
- 8:01Speaker 1: of entry. Two whole sides of the dwelling are unattainable,
- 8:06Speaker 1: so you really only got the bottom door and the
- 8:10Speaker 1: bottom back door. Nobody is scaling up the side of
- 8:14Speaker 1: the condos to break into a window. That reduces your
- 8:18Speaker 1: points of entry, and that's significant. Oh, I agree, agree,
- 8:22Speaker 1: And that reduces the possibilities of people who would have
- 8:27Speaker 1: access to that apartment also or that town home. Also
- 8:31Speaker 1: joining me, Jonathan T. Gilliam, former FBI special agent, former
- 8:35Speaker 1: Navy seal, author of Sheep No More, The Art of
- 8:39Speaker 1: Awareness and Attack Survival on Amazon. Jonathan Gilliam, thank you
- 8:43Speaker 1: for being with us. Both of them shot in the head.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Shot in the head. That tells me both of them
- 8:51Speaker 1: were asleep, and that see the mark of a hitman
- 8:55Speaker 1: as an execution style killing. Shot in the head in
- 8:58Speaker 1: their bed. So next to actually stabbing someone, I would
- 9:02Speaker 1: say that this is potentially a sign of a more
- 9:07Speaker 1: personal attack, somebody that was actually in their room while
- 9:13Speaker 1: they were sleeping and took the time to shoot each
- 9:17Speaker 1: one in the head and in their life in such
- 9:20Speaker 1: a personal manner. There were other people in that house
- 9:23Speaker 1: that were not targeted. So we know that these two people.
- 9:27Speaker 1: You know, that word targeted gets used so much. But
- 9:31Speaker 1: I think in this case, because you know, we know
- 9:35Speaker 1: that the son was awake, because these one who called
- 9:38Speaker 1: nine one one, there was nobody else was touched in
- 9:42Speaker 1: that house. So to me, when I hear that somebody
- 9:45Speaker 1: shot in their head in their bed while they sleep,
- 9:48Speaker 1: that's a very personal targeted attack. Guys, think a listen
- 9:52Speaker 1: to our fens at KPRC on the phone with nine
- 9:55Speaker 1: one one. The couple, son Junior or AJ, appeared confused
- 9:59Speaker 1: pas an act while answering questions. The dispatcher asks if
- 10:03Speaker 1: medical attention was needed in AJ's parents bedroom. AJ responded yes,
- 10:08Speaker 1: and their door is cracked open. Later, the dispatcher asks
- 10:11Speaker 1: if gunshots AJ heard sound like a handgun, rifle or shotgun.
- 10:16Speaker 1: I'm not good with guns, AJ replies, but I guess
- 10:19Speaker 1: like a I don't know, fifteen or something like that.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I know my dad has a gun underneath the god
- 10:26Speaker 1: where does he keep his gun? Aj asks aloud, eventually
- 10:30Speaker 1: saying I think he keeps it in the drawer right
- 10:32Speaker 1: next to his bed. Dave Matt how many times were
- 10:35Speaker 1: they shot at the Dawn was shot twice in the
- 10:38Speaker 1: head and Antonio was shot one. Okay, Lisa, Daddy are
- 10:41Speaker 1: joining me for him? Police lieutenant Inhaven PD jumping Lisa.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I agree with what's been said so far. You know,
- 10:47Speaker 1: we have something so personal in someone's home. Twice to
- 10:52Speaker 1: the mom's head, which is obviously a little concern. I
- 10:57Speaker 1: wonder why that was and only once to you know,
- 11:01Speaker 1: the husband's father's head. And you know, when you see
- 11:04Speaker 1: something so personal and so violent happened to the face
- 11:08Speaker 1: the head, you have to agree that it's more of
- 11:11Speaker 1: a personal in nature type of crime perpetrated by someone
- 11:16Speaker 1: that knows the victims. Time stories with Nancy Grace for
- 11:34Speaker 1: those of you just joining us. An NFL star and
- 11:38Speaker 1: his wife murdered in their own bed, seemingly execution style,
- 11:43Speaker 1: joining me. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, an author of
- 11:47Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Faith on Amazon, just got Morgan. What
- 11:50Speaker 1: do you make of the fact the mom was shot
- 11:52Speaker 1: twice and the dad's shot once. Well, the individual that
- 11:55Speaker 1: did the attack was aware of the fact that this gentleman,
- 12:00Speaker 1: the father is in bed and he is a former
- 12:04Speaker 1: NFL player, he's a fitness guy. He would be the
- 12:08Speaker 1: first target, I would think, because that's the biggest threat.
- 12:11Speaker 1: And so once that weapon is initiated, once that round
- 12:15Speaker 1: goes off and puts him down, the mother may have
- 12:19Speaker 1: awoken at that point in time and in the confusion
- 12:24Speaker 1: or in the attempt to end her life, she was
- 12:26Speaker 1: shot twice Nancy to take her down in that moment
- 12:29Speaker 1: because she was aware that there was gunfire going on.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Even if she's in a deep sleep, she's gonna wake
- 12:34Speaker 1: up and you know she's finished off at that moment.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Listen to more from Crime Online. At nine forty am
- 12:42Speaker 1: Antonio Armstrong, Junior AJ calls nine one. He tells the
- 12:46Speaker 1: operator that he is hiding in a closet in his
- 12:49Speaker 1: room on the third floor after hearing gunshots in his
- 12:52Speaker 1: parents room. Armstrong is on the phone with police for
- 12:55Speaker 1: sixteen minutes until one fifty six. He tells the operator
- 12:59Speaker 1: that the only people in the home are himself, his parents,
- 13:02Speaker 1: and his younger sister. His parents and the sister are
- 13:05Speaker 1: on the second floor, Armstrong says no one is on
- 13:08Speaker 1: the first floor. Armstrong is heard on the nine one
- 13:11Speaker 1: one call waking up his sister. They go downstairs, and
- 13:14Speaker 1: AJ Armstrong turns off the security alarm as the police
- 13:18Speaker 1: entered the front door. Down and Antonio were shot in
- 13:21Speaker 1: the head while they slept. Okay, wait a minute, I
- 13:24Speaker 1: think that I'm just hearing that he turned off the
- 13:28Speaker 1: security alarm to allow police in. So this double murder
- 13:35Speaker 1: goes down while the security system is intact, taking less
- 13:38Speaker 1: staffres at Katie rk Her father was carried out of
- 13:42Speaker 1: the family's town home on a stretcher. Kira was in
- 13:45Speaker 1: the house asleep in her second floor bedroom when her
- 13:48Speaker 1: parents were shot in their room on the same floor
- 13:51Speaker 1: a few feet away. The night before the murders. She
- 13:54Speaker 1: went to bed around eleven pm after hugging her mom
- 13:57Speaker 1: and dad and sending the house alarm. The next thing
- 14:00Speaker 1: she remembers was AJ waking her up telling her to
- 14:03Speaker 1: come with him downstairs. AJ says she was half asleep,
- 14:06Speaker 1: could barely process what was happening. She was separated from AJ,
- 14:11Speaker 1: putting a cop car, her hands bagged and tested for
- 14:13Speaker 1: gunshot residue. Okay, what does that mean to test for
- 14:17Speaker 1: gunshot residue? James Shalnut weigh in, Well, you know when
- 14:22Speaker 1: a weapon is fired. When a gun is fired. The
- 14:26Speaker 1: way that it fires is some type of firing pin
- 14:29Speaker 1: strikes a shell or casing that has powder in it,
- 14:34Speaker 1: black powder. It ignites that powder, and it pushes the
- 14:37Speaker 1: bullet called the projectile out the end of the gun
- 14:41Speaker 1: well from that powder igniting, it leaves residue, just like
- 14:46Speaker 1: if you were to hold your hand over smoke outside
- 14:48Speaker 1: over the fire pit, it will leave residue. And there
- 14:51Speaker 1: are wipes that contain certain chemicals that will detect the
- 14:56Speaker 1: presence of that gunshot powder residue on fingers, hands, and
- 15:01Speaker 1: even objects. Okay, joining me, Jess got Morgan from Jacksonville
- 15:04Speaker 1: State University forensics expert explain how close you have to
- 15:10Speaker 1: be to the weapon at the time of firing to
- 15:13Speaker 1: get the gunshot residue on your hands or arms. The
- 15:16Speaker 1: outer limit for a pistol in particular is about eighteen
- 15:20Speaker 1: inches and so. And just imagine this big puff goes
- 15:24Speaker 1: up in the air, and contained within that puff is
- 15:28Speaker 1: going to be unburned powder, and then the residue that's
- 15:31Speaker 1: given off as is ignition takes place. You've got two
- 15:35Speaker 1: types of powder here. You've got the primer strike, which
- 15:38Speaker 1: is more unstable, and then you have the propellant which
- 15:42Speaker 1: is driving that projectile down the barrel. So there are
- 15:46Speaker 1: two unique chemical structures here. If an individual is holding
- 15:50Speaker 1: the weapon, one of the places that you target in
- 15:52Speaker 1: order to swap the hands. If people will just look
- 15:55Speaker 1: at kind of the U shape that your hand makes
- 15:58Speaker 1: between your thumb and your index finger, you'll go in there.
- 16:02Speaker 1: You'll swab that particular area to see if anybody was
- 16:05Speaker 1: holding the weapon now on the other end of it.
- 16:07Speaker 1: On the other end of it, you might have propellant
- 16:10Speaker 1: that comes out on a victim, say, for instance, if
- 16:13Speaker 1: on the contact surface of them. It'll give you an
- 16:15Speaker 1: idea that that's the direction which the projectile was actually
- 16:19Speaker 1: fired in. And it's very curious. A lot has been
- 16:23Speaker 1: made in the last days of the Idaho students, four
- 16:28Speaker 1: of them slain, we believe at least in their beds,
- 16:32Speaker 1: if not in their sleep. Much has been made of
- 16:34Speaker 1: the fact that their bottom floor roommates, the two girls
- 16:39Speaker 1: that sleep downstairs heard nothing. I don't find that unusual
- 16:43Speaker 1: at all, And I harkened back to the Ted Bundy
- 16:46Speaker 1: case where many of the girls in the ky Omega
- 16:50Speaker 1: strory house at FSU heard nothing, and Bundy had gotten
- 16:54Speaker 1: in it was bludgeoning people, trying to kill them, people
- 16:58Speaker 1: he had never even met. In this case, you have
- 17:01Speaker 1: the sister Kiera who heard nothing, and in her sleep,
- 17:06Speaker 1: after she hugs her mom and dad good night, her
- 17:09Speaker 1: parents are executed, shot dead, just down the hallway there
- 17:13Speaker 1: in the family home, and she heard nothing. Is that suspicious?
- 17:18Speaker 1: Maybe I find it completely believable. But let's listen to more.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Take a listen to Courtney Fisher. Kaira says Aj and
- 17:28Speaker 1: her parents had a great relationship. That he was acting
- 17:31Speaker 1: like his normal, happy, goofy, playful self the day of
- 17:34Speaker 1: the murders. But her older brother, Josh, he was different
- 17:38Speaker 1: when he came home from college in May. Quote, Josh
- 17:41Speaker 1: was distant. He acted like the black sheep of the family.
- 17:45Speaker 1: He acted like our parents loved us more because we
- 17:48Speaker 1: were biologically there's. Kaira said. She and Aj were both
- 17:51Speaker 1: done and Antonio seniors kids. Josh was just John's son.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Kaira says Josh was doing more drugs more often when
- 17:59Speaker 1: he came home from school. Quote, he started talking to
- 18:02Speaker 1: himself a lot. He stayed in the restroom for hours
- 18:05Speaker 1: and hours. He'd sit there and talk to himself. He
- 18:08Speaker 1: stopped caring about his appearance. Okay, I see a lot
- 18:12Speaker 1: of problems right there, Dave MC joining me. Dave MC,
- 18:15Speaker 1: who is Josh? I know about Aj, the boy there
- 18:20Speaker 1: in the home that called nine on one. I know
- 18:21Speaker 1: about the sister Kara. Who's Josh? All right, Josh is
- 18:25Speaker 1: actually Dawn's son from a previous relationship. He is not
- 18:31Speaker 1: biologically the son of Antonio. And that's the friction of
- 18:35Speaker 1: which they speak. Josh is three years older than Aj,
- 18:40Speaker 1: and he was nineteen at the time of the murders. Okay,
- 18:43Speaker 1: to you, Karen, start, your psychologist. You heard the description
- 18:47Speaker 1: of Josh's behavior. What does that mean? Well, that means
- 18:50Speaker 1: that something's us psychologically, Nancy. He comes back, he's behaving
- 18:57Speaker 1: in a strange way. I don't know who was like
- 19:00Speaker 1: that before, but clearly he could be by polar schizophrenic.
- 19:05Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the diagnosis would be, or he
- 19:08Speaker 1: could just be doing drugs care and start. It made
- 19:10Speaker 1: me just that simple. Well, I'm a psychologist, so immediately
- 19:14Speaker 1: I start thinking about what kind of mental disorder it
- 19:16Speaker 1: might be. Yeah, you're right, go ahead, but something is
- 19:19Speaker 1: wrong clearly, and the fact that he feels like a
- 19:24Speaker 1: black seaboards the Louis. He's treated that way, Resentment is
- 19:29Speaker 1: building at his own identity is not confirmed for himself.
- 19:33Speaker 1: He's not sure about where he did. You know another
- 19:36Speaker 1: thing about sibling jealousy, You know, it could start at
- 19:40Speaker 1: a very young age and it goes on all the
- 19:44Speaker 1: way through adulthood. I mean, you'll have adults forty fifty
- 19:49Speaker 1: sixty years old still talking about you were mom's favorite.
- 19:53Speaker 1: I mean, really get over it. But it festers and
- 19:57Speaker 1: it sticks with people their whole life, and they don't
- 20:00Speaker 1: over it. They really don't. It's constantly you were. No,
- 20:04Speaker 1: I was mons favorite, No you were. I hear people
- 20:06Speaker 1: say that all the time, the people that I work with,
- 20:10Speaker 1: I was not the favorite, or I was always the favorite.
- 20:12Speaker 1: I mean, we even see it playing out in national headlines.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say Prince Harry and William. I mean,
- 20:20Speaker 1: if I have to read one more headline about how
- 20:23Speaker 1: this one is mad at that one and this one
- 20:25Speaker 1: is mistreated, blah blah, they're millionaires and they're still talking
- 20:30Speaker 1: about it. Okay, let me let me focus on something
- 20:34Speaker 1: that I really understand, and that is hard science. Take
- 20:40Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Demolli Keith at Fox twenty
- 20:45Speaker 1: six all points to one person. Fronsacutor say every door
- 20:52Speaker 1: and window were closed and locked at the Armstrong's Beller
- 20:55Speaker 1: home on July twenty nine, twenty sixteen, when Antonio Senior
- 20:59Speaker 1: and Dawn arms Strong were shot to death with their
- 21:01Speaker 1: own gun as they slept, and prosecutors point to the
- 21:05Speaker 1: alarm that was set at nine fifty two pm and
- 21:07Speaker 1: was never triggered, and alarm record show motion sensors set
- 21:11Speaker 1: off in the house, but no exterior doors opening or closing. Okay,
- 21:15Speaker 1: isn't it true? Jonathan Gilliam, former or FBI special agent.
- 21:22Speaker 1: It's not just a matter of the fact, being that
- 21:27Speaker 1: all of the alarms were on. No alarm went off.
- 21:31Speaker 1: There was a motion detector, it didn't go off. But
- 21:34Speaker 1: isn't it true that alarm companies that are monitoring your
- 21:37Speaker 1: alarm system can tell if you turn the alarm off
- 21:41Speaker 1: and turn the alarm on. Last night, two thirty am,
- 21:46Speaker 1: the alarm goes off. My husband and I jump out,
- 21:50Speaker 1: a band start running. I don't even know what's happening,
- 21:52Speaker 1: And he, immediately before he could even turn the alarm off,
- 21:54Speaker 1: said you cracked a window. I didn't not even know
- 21:58Speaker 1: what he was talking about. As it turns out, my
- 22:01Speaker 1: mom was up who lives with us, ninety one years old,
- 22:05Speaker 1: and dropped a cake pan in the kitchen. I didn't
- 22:10Speaker 1: hear any of that, but I sure heard the alarm
- 22:12Speaker 1: going off, and of course they meanly call the house
- 22:15Speaker 1: to find out if everything's okay because the alarm thinks
- 22:19Speaker 1: somebody is breaking the window. My point is long story
- 22:23Speaker 1: I just unfolded short. The alarm company knows when you
- 22:28Speaker 1: disable and then restart the alarm, so it's not just
- 22:32Speaker 1: a matter of the alarm being on and not tripping.
- 22:37Speaker 1: But nobody cut it off and cut it back on either, right,
- 22:41Speaker 1: you know. And also this is the family. They own
- 22:44Speaker 1: another business, So these are people that you know. It
- 22:47Speaker 1: sounds like they go out of their way that the
- 22:50Speaker 1: business had been robbed or was robbed sometime around that,
- 22:54Speaker 1: and so they they these are people who take their
- 22:57Speaker 1: security seriously. It appears, so you know it once these
- 23:02Speaker 1: alarms are set. That is the whole gist of the
- 23:06Speaker 1: sales of these alarms is that if they go off,
- 23:08Speaker 1: you always and every alarm I've ever had in any
- 23:12Speaker 1: house I've ever lived where the alarm's gone off. Within
- 23:15Speaker 1: a matter of minutes, you have a phone call from
- 23:18Speaker 1: the alarm company and then they're going to check to
- 23:21Speaker 1: see if if everything's okay. I don't know if that
- 23:25Speaker 1: phone call occurred in this circumstance. Well, no, because the
- 23:28Speaker 1: alarm was never tripped. The alarm never went off, but
- 23:31Speaker 1: when the police came to the door, that is when
- 23:34Speaker 1: the alarm was shut off. So and the only way
- 23:40Speaker 1: somebody could have been in there to do that most likely,
- 23:43Speaker 1: if the technologies technology of these alarms worked, was that
- 23:47Speaker 1: they were already in the house, And there have been cases.
- 23:50Speaker 1: There was a guy, I don't remember what state it
- 23:52Speaker 1: was in, but he was notorious. He robbed over twenty
- 23:55Speaker 1: million dollars because he figured out that a lot of
- 23:59Speaker 1: these motions send they're not put in the bedrooms of
- 24:02Speaker 1: where people live because in big homes, that's where they
- 24:06Speaker 1: primarily move around at night. So they'll set the alarm,
- 24:08Speaker 1: they'll be in the room, and if there's any movement
- 24:11Speaker 1: in other places, the alarm will go off. I don't
- 24:13Speaker 1: think that's the kate there, because they had two other
- 24:16Speaker 1: kids in the house, which means that these were just
- 24:18Speaker 1: perimeter alarm. Yeah, and you know what else, James shell
- 24:21Speaker 1: Nutt Gilliam is right. There could have been somebody hiding
- 24:24Speaker 1: under the bed the whole night, or hiding somewhere that
- 24:27Speaker 1: creep out commit the murder. Then they go back and
- 24:29Speaker 1: hiding and they wait for the cops to come, and
- 24:32Speaker 1: then they sneak out and little green men from ours
- 24:35Speaker 1: could have beamed down and kill both the mom and
- 24:38Speaker 1: the dad and then beam back up. That didn't happen,
- 24:42Speaker 1: all right, That is not what happened. Someone in that
- 24:46Speaker 1: home murdered mom and dad. Nobody snuck out when the
- 24:52Speaker 1: alarm system got turned off. Now we got to figure
- 24:56Speaker 1: out who who. But also, also, as Gilliam just pointed out, correctly,
- 25:02Speaker 1: their business had also just been robbed. Is that a coincidence?
- 25:07Speaker 1: There's a robbery at the business and now suddenly they're dead.
- 25:10Speaker 1: But what do you think about the alarm situations, y'all?
- 25:12Speaker 1: Not well, I think exactly what you think. I think
- 25:14Speaker 1: that what the alarm did is it limited of course access,
- 25:19Speaker 1: It identified who was in the proximity when mom and
- 25:24Speaker 1: dad were killed, and it limits your possible suspects. I
- 25:28Speaker 1: do agree there have been times where people have come
- 25:30Speaker 1: in and waited. I don't think that was the case here.
- 25:33Speaker 1: No one hurt anything. There was no evidence of robbery
- 25:36Speaker 1: at the home. There was no evidence of burglary at
- 25:39Speaker 1: the home. There was no other evidence of struggle at
- 25:42Speaker 1: the home. The only evidence there was was that someone
- 25:45Speaker 1: was inside that house, walked into those parents' bedrooms and
- 25:49Speaker 1: put a bullet in their head without anyone stopping them.
- 25:53Speaker 1: And I don't believe it was anyone that did it
- 25:56Speaker 1: that was outside of that apartment. Guys, the cops are
- 25:59Speaker 1: stymy until they notice somebody has got a very odd demeanor.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Now I have heard, I've had defense attorneys attack me,
- 26:11Speaker 1: and I understand why they do it. They're not totally
- 26:15Speaker 1: wrong when I say, well, this just ain't right. Okay,
- 26:20Speaker 1: they're not acting the way I would expect them to act.
- 26:23Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, demeanor matters to cops and it
- 26:27Speaker 1: matters to jurars. Take a listen to demali Keith Fox
- 26:31Speaker 1: twenty six. Prosecutors also played a portion of Antonio Junior's
- 26:35Speaker 1: interview with police as he talked about his mother after
- 26:38Speaker 1: learning she was shot dead. Even in the moment and
- 26:45Speaker 1: he realizes his mother is dead, he has so much
- 26:48Speaker 1: disdain for her. He can't even sane thing positive and
- 26:52Speaker 1: more from Fox twenty six A Houston police investigator gave
- 26:55Speaker 1: testimonies saying then sixteen year old Antonio Armstrong Junior did
- 26:59Speaker 1: not here to be scared, nervous, or in shunk while
- 27:03Speaker 1: being interviewed by two homicide detectives the morning his parents,
- 27:06Speaker 1: former NFL player Antonio Armstrong Senior and Down Armstrong, were
- 27:11Speaker 1: murdered as they slept in their Bellair area home back
- 27:14Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. The detective also says aj never mentioned
- 27:17Speaker 1: seeing an intruder in the sixteen minute nine one one call,
- 27:20Speaker 1: but later told investigators he saw a masked man, So
- 27:24Speaker 1: Antonio Armstrong did not appear to be afraid, or nervous
- 27:29Speaker 1: or in shock following the murder off his parents. He
- 27:33Speaker 1: could not conjure up one good word about his mother.
- 27:39Speaker 1: I mean, Jess Got Morgan, Professor forensics and death investigator,
- 27:45Speaker 1: You've been at plenty of death sayings, and usually the victims'
- 27:50Speaker 1: families are distraught. They're absolutely crushed because this is an
- 27:54Speaker 1: event that first off, no one expects it to happen,
- 27:57Speaker 1: and then when death visits these individuals. I've seen people
- 28:01Speaker 1: that are in almost a catatonic state. But then I've
- 28:04Speaker 1: seen people that are essentially falling apart emotionally. It runs
- 28:09Speaker 1: the gamut. But you know, I always take issue many
- 28:12Speaker 1: times when I go out the scenes and I see
- 28:14Speaker 1: people that are showing little or no emotion, or maybe
- 28:17Speaker 1: an inappropriate level of emotion, And certainly from an investigative standpoint,
- 28:23Speaker 1: it's going to make you look harder at that individual
- 28:26Speaker 1: to see why they're not reacting in what would be
- 28:29Speaker 1: deemed a normal manner under these abnormal circumstances. And there
- 28:34Speaker 1: is the issue of him changing his story. That's the
- 28:40Speaker 1: biggest tell in my mind of almost anything. Was he
- 28:44Speaker 1: catch somebody red handed? He now tells investigators he saw
- 28:49Speaker 1: a masked man. Where wasn't he Dave Mack in the closet,
- 28:55Speaker 1: hiding in the closet when he called nine one one. Yeah,
- 28:58Speaker 1: AYJ said that he was on the third story and
- 29:01Speaker 1: in the closet and he was hiding in fear. He
- 29:04Speaker 1: heard the gunshot and boom, He's hiding, So yeah, I
- 29:07Speaker 1: don't know how he could see anybody in the closet,
- 29:09Speaker 1: So he doesn't mention that at first. You know, it
- 29:12Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of somebody we have all analyzed
- 29:17Speaker 1: two bits, and that is miss Jodiarius, who changed her
- 29:22Speaker 1: story so many times from not being at the scene
- 29:26Speaker 1: of Travis Alexander's murder. Two ninjas with masks on their
- 29:32Speaker 1: faces covered sneaking in and murdering Travis, and she managed
- 29:36Speaker 1: to get away to self defense. This is right up
- 29:40Speaker 1: there with the ninjas. Would you agree or disagree? Joe
- 29:44Speaker 1: Scott Morgan? It is right up there with the ninjas.
- 29:47Speaker 1: How preposterous is this? You begin to think about, you know,
- 29:51Speaker 1: who has access to this environment when one thing that
- 29:54Speaker 1: really stands out to me is who would know? Who
- 29:58Speaker 1: would actually know that this weapon was kept in a
- 30:02Speaker 1: specific area and it's apparently the same weapon that was
- 30:05Speaker 1: used to perpetrate these homicides. It's an individual that has
- 30:08Speaker 1: intimate knowledge of this environment, can move through this environment
- 30:12Speaker 1: and understands where people are oriented. And I'm talking about
- 30:15Speaker 1: this man and his wife who are peacefully sleeping in
- 30:18Speaker 1: their bit and they are essentially executed. Not only that,
- 30:22Speaker 1: we now learn of a throwaway comment made later on
- 30:28Speaker 1: during the nine moment call made by the son aj
- 30:33Speaker 1: Armstrong take a listen to KPRC. Houston police were on
- 30:37Speaker 1: their way at this point in Aj not a suspect.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Then the dispatcher then directs him to wake up his
- 30:42Speaker 1: twelve year old sister. Later during that nine on one call, AJ,
- 30:46Speaker 1: who today stands trial accused of killing his parents, can
- 30:51Speaker 1: be heard saying something unthinkable, possibly self incriminating, quote, it's
- 30:57Speaker 1: all my fault. Wow, all my thought he thought to
- 31:02Speaker 1: say that on the nine one one call. But why?
- 31:05Speaker 1: What could possible motivation be? Take a list to ABC
- 31:08Speaker 1: thirteenth texts from October through May, up to two months
- 31:12Speaker 1: before the murders. It shows a frustrated, exhausted pair of parents,
- 31:15Speaker 1: Dawn and Antonio, telling Aj over and over he's a
- 31:19Speaker 1: quote disappointment that they're tired of his lying, he's spending
- 31:22Speaker 1: money his bad grades. In April, Antonio Senior texted AJ,
- 31:26Speaker 1: I'm sick of getting reports about silly crap you are doing.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Keep screwing up and doing silly things like speed through
- 31:32Speaker 1: the park. I'm trading your car and for one that
- 31:34Speaker 1: matches your maturity. Last morning. This text from mom in June.
- 31:38Speaker 1: We gave you all and the best we had. We
- 31:40Speaker 1: wanted the best for you. We provided the best education,
- 31:43Speaker 1: bought you a great car. To celebrate you. We tried
- 31:46Speaker 1: to be open with you and what was important to you,
- 31:48Speaker 1: and all you do is lie to us, scheme behind
- 31:51Speaker 1: our backs. Okay, you're hearing the inner thoughts and feelings
- 31:55Speaker 1: of the mom and dad and they're threatening to change
- 32:00Speaker 1: out his new car. Remember at the time, he's sixteen
- 32:05Speaker 1: years old. Time stories with Nancy Grace. What more do
- 32:25Speaker 1: we know about the disagreements between the son Aj and
- 32:29Speaker 1: the mom and dad? Dave mack Well, what we know,
- 32:31Speaker 1: Nancy is that Aj was not the golden child that
- 32:37Speaker 1: he pretends to be. He had been kicked out of
- 32:40Speaker 1: an exclusive school called King Kaid and that was over
- 32:44Speaker 1: pot and pot dealing, pot smoking. We know that this
- 32:48Speaker 1: was a major friction between Aj and his parents, to
- 32:53Speaker 1: the point where his mom wrote in a text message
- 32:56Speaker 1: in April, we know I know you were sneaking out
- 33:00Speaker 1: because the alarm doesn't lie. The alarm caught AJ leaving
- 33:05Speaker 1: the house. You know how we talked about that a
- 33:07Speaker 1: minute ago? How that Mark? Yeah, they used that alarm
- 33:09Speaker 1: to prove that Aj was lying to them he was
- 33:11Speaker 1: sneaking out at night. In addition to the anks between
- 33:15Speaker 1: mom and dad and sixteen year old son, which could
- 33:19Speaker 1: be true of any American family, James shell Nut. We
- 33:22Speaker 1: also learn that the teen boy and I quote, practiced
- 33:28Speaker 1: killing his NFL dad and mom four months before shooting
- 33:34Speaker 1: them dad. Now what do I mean by that? He
- 33:37Speaker 1: practiced how to silence a gun with blankets and pillows
- 33:42Speaker 1: and the run up to his parents' murders. Also in
- 33:46Speaker 1: his room was a crack pipe pipe. I'm not talking
- 33:49Speaker 1: about an adderall here and there. Smoking a joint crack
- 33:54Speaker 1: is a whole another thing, shell Nut, And I gotta
- 33:58Speaker 1: tell you that police found the twenty two caliber pistol
- 34:02Speaker 1: on a counter, along with a note that says, I've
- 34:06Speaker 1: been watching you for a long time. Really, that's a
- 34:13Speaker 1: fake note? Why what killer? I mean? It sounds like
- 34:17Speaker 1: and I've used this phrase before when I'm talking about
- 34:19Speaker 1: the John and a Ramsey case and the Rasom note.
- 34:23Speaker 1: It sounds like a fifth grade girl wrote a mystery novel.
- 34:26Speaker 1: I've been watching you as total byes. It stinks right
- 34:30Speaker 1: here in the studio just saying it. And practicing with
- 34:35Speaker 1: pillows and blankets. He knew he was gonna have access
- 34:39Speaker 1: to pillows and blankets and he's gonna shoot him in
- 34:42Speaker 1: their sleep, and he practiced for months leading up to
- 34:46Speaker 1: their murders. Absolutely, you know. As soon as you said
- 34:50Speaker 1: that about the ransom note, and I've read that in
- 34:51Speaker 1: proposial story, I will tell you that's the first thing
- 34:54Speaker 1: that came to minds John and a Ramsey case. How
- 34:56Speaker 1: ridiculously corny, how absurd, and it's just nothing like person
- 35:00Speaker 1: would actually right if they were left a note. And
- 35:02Speaker 1: my boy, I've never seen a killer leave a note
- 35:04Speaker 1: at the sea. Total b. Yes, it's not murder, she wrote,
- 35:08Speaker 1: you know, forget about the hokey note. The teen boy
- 35:11Speaker 1: wrote in Aj Armstrong's bedroom, Cops, fine, not only a
- 35:18Speaker 1: crack pipe, but a pillow in a comforter set with
- 35:23Speaker 1: bullet holes through them. So here are their choices. You
- 35:28Speaker 1: got Aj Armstrong, the teen boy who's angry about his
- 35:31Speaker 1: car being snatched, and a twelve year old girl who
- 35:35Speaker 1: comes down rubbing her eyes out of the sleep, out
- 35:37Speaker 1: of her eyes. Those are the choices. It's not a
- 35:40Speaker 1: murder suicide because the weapon would have been dropped by
- 35:44Speaker 1: the killer right there when he committed suicide after murdering
- 35:48Speaker 1: the spouse, So it's not murder suicide. Please, let's get real.
- 35:52Speaker 1: The little girl did not kill her parents. She's asleep
- 35:55Speaker 1: in fact, aj Armstrong says, two, nine one one, let
- 35:59Speaker 1: me go at my sister, she's asleep in bed. That
- 36:02Speaker 1: leaves him well, And I would even know she was
- 36:05Speaker 1: asleep if he wasn't already up yet, Nancy jump in
- 36:08Speaker 1: when it comes to the nine one one calls. I
- 36:11Speaker 1: keep pointing this out over and over again, and people
- 36:13Speaker 1: are always blown away by this. Twenty percent of the time,
- 36:17Speaker 1: the person who committed a homicide is the person who
- 36:20Speaker 1: makes the nine one one call. And when they do,
- 36:23Speaker 1: and I'm sure you're familiar with this term minimization, they
- 36:26Speaker 1: minimize the circumstances and they minimize their role in the circumstances.
- 36:33Speaker 1: So everything that you're saying, and the way that he's
- 36:36Speaker 1: describing where he is, the way he's describing that he
- 36:39Speaker 1: you know, he has knowledge that his sister's awake, but
- 36:42Speaker 1: yet he's in a closet, that he doesn't know where
- 36:45Speaker 1: the gun is, but I think it might be here,
- 36:48Speaker 1: and that he has ringing in his ears, but yet
- 36:51Speaker 1: it happened in another room. You're right, Gilliam. Listen to
- 36:54Speaker 1: our cut twenty Our friends at ABC Houston Police say
- 36:58Speaker 1: there were no signs of a break in. Investigators found
- 37:01Speaker 1: bullet holes on the floor of AJ's room, in a
- 37:04Speaker 1: pillow and comforter in his closet, but AJ's fingerprints in
- 37:08Speaker 1: DNA were not on the gun that was found on
- 37:11Speaker 1: the kitchen counter, along with the note that read I
- 37:14Speaker 1: have been watching for a long time. Get me So
- 37:17Speaker 1: with all of this evidence, why has this happened? Take
- 37:23Speaker 1: a listen twenty eight kp R. C. Houston. When you
- 37:27Speaker 1: look at this case, by the numbers two mistrials in
- 37:31Speaker 1: the most recent trial, the jury deliberating some seventeen hours
- 37:34Speaker 1: fifty eight minutes, sending several notes of concern to Judge Johnson,
- 37:38Speaker 1: ultimately split eight four not guilty here. But whether A J.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Armstrong did it isn't the question at hand tonight. Rather,
- 37:46Speaker 1: why is it that prosecutors weren't able to successfully unanimously
- 37:50Speaker 1: swayed yours is at this time on the court's own motion,
- 37:54Speaker 1: I am declaring a mistrial in this case, straight from
- 37:57Speaker 1: Judge Kelly Johnson's mouth hung jewelry. In the case of AJ.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Armstrong Junior, they brought their best prosecutors, They tried to
- 38:05Speaker 1: bring their best case, and the split as far as
- 38:08Speaker 1: we know when they broke was a for not guilty.
- 38:11Speaker 1: And last but not least, we find after his both
- 38:17Speaker 1: of his parents are shot dead. Aj Armstrong starts a
- 38:20Speaker 1: fire right there in the home. Jess got Morgan, what
- 38:25Speaker 1: is happening? Why did he start a fire? How did
- 38:28Speaker 1: he start a fire? Most people that are involved with
- 38:32Speaker 1: fire setting like this as as a result of a
- 38:34Speaker 1: homicide perhaps are trying to, you know, to destroy evidence.
- 38:38Speaker 1: And apparently it didn't work very well. What was burned?
- 38:41Speaker 1: The carpet. You know, they went in and took a
- 38:44Speaker 1: big example of the carpet in this particular cation that's
- 38:47Speaker 1: been used in court in these other two trials, and
- 38:51Speaker 1: you know what would happen is that they would clip
- 38:53Speaker 1: this out and examine it and to see what the
- 38:55Speaker 1: origin of the fire was. How was it initiated? Now
- 38:58Speaker 1: I doubt that this individ was going to be a
- 39:00Speaker 1: professional firestarter, but was there accelerant there? And that's hard
- 39:04Speaker 1: to do with carpet, you know why, because carpet itself,
- 39:07Speaker 1: if it's synthetic, it is actually petroleum based. A lot
- 39:10Speaker 1: of people don't realize that. So they have to separate
- 39:12Speaker 1: this out and be very careful about it. But you know,
- 39:15Speaker 1: this wasn't very sophisticated. But why would he start a fire?
- 39:19Speaker 1: And where in the home and when would he have
- 39:21Speaker 1: the opportunity to start a fire? I think I think
- 39:26Speaker 1: that this goes to no DNA was found on the weapon.
- 39:31Speaker 1: I think that he had a block of time here
- 39:34Speaker 1: that's unaccounted for, where he went and probably cleaned the weapon,
- 39:39Speaker 1: washed his hands perhaps, And in addition to that, in
- 39:43Speaker 1: addition to that, he's going to try to start a
- 39:45Speaker 1: fire in proximity to the bodies to burn them up
- 39:48Speaker 1: to get it, you know, to give this this idea
- 39:51Speaker 1: that there's not going to be any evidence. And of
- 39:53Speaker 1: course it didn't work. It just it collapsed in on itself.
- 39:57Speaker 1: And so again that goes back to this idea, who
- 40:01Speaker 1: would have had access to that particular area, who would
- 40:04Speaker 1: have had the ability to start a fire approximating whereas
- 40:08Speaker 1: parents were actually found murder? So, Dave mac two mistrials.
- 40:12Speaker 1: What's going to happen now? Actually it's going to be
- 40:14Speaker 1: a third trial now, Nancy, in February of twenty twenty three.
- 40:18Speaker 1: They're going to try one more time to get twelve
- 40:20Speaker 1: people to say guilty. Wow, with this evidence, I mean
- 40:24Speaker 1: You don't have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not
- 40:27Speaker 1: to see that this guy, then sixteen years old and
- 40:31Speaker 1: angry about his car getting taken away, murdered his parents.
- 40:34Speaker 1: It's it's I don't understand what's happening. We'll keep you
- 40:39Speaker 1: updated as trial nears. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy
- 40:44Speaker 1: Grace Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye friend,