Latest / Bengals Booth Podcast / Bengals Booth Podcast: One At A Time

Transcript

Bengals Booth Podcast: One At A Time · Bengals Booth Podcast

0:03
Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading The
0:06
Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The One at a Time addition as
0:11
Speaker 1: the Bengals look for their second straight win as they
0:13
Speaker 1: head to Buffalo to face the Bills. Coming up, we'll
0:17
Speaker 1: discuss Joe Burrow's successful return from toe surgery with another
0:21
Speaker 1: quarterback who overcame numerous injuries, University of Cincinnati Hall of
0:26
Speaker 1: Famer Tony Pike. My one on one player interview is
0:29
Speaker 1: with b J Hill, who explains why the Bengals defense
0:33
Speaker 1: is getting better. And I'll talk to two broadcasters, Joe Davis,
0:37
Speaker 1: who will call this week's game on Fox and former
0:40
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl center Eric Wood, who is now the radio
0:43
Speaker 1: analyst for the Buffalo Bills. The Bengals Booth Podcast is
0:47
Speaker 1: brought to you by pay Corps, Proud to be the
0:49
Speaker 1: Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof
0:53
Speaker 1: Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, and community
0:57
Speaker 1: to a new level, and by Kettering Health the best
1:00
Speaker 1: care for the best fans. Cattering Health is the official
1:03
Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now here's a quick reminder
1:07
Speaker 1: that you can have the latest edition of this podcast
1:10
Speaker 1: delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing
1:14
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since
1:19
Speaker 1: Scrub Mommy sponges. I am the primary dishwasher in the
1:25
Speaker 1: Horde household, and I have become a big fan of
1:28
Speaker 1: scrub Mommy sponges. It's an offshoot of the scrub Daddy,
1:33
Speaker 1: which was one of the most successful products ever to
1:36
Speaker 1: launch on Shark Tank because of its innovative flex texture
1:41
Speaker 1: foam which changes stiffness and scrubbing power based on water temperature,
1:47
Speaker 1: firm in cold water and soft in hot. It also
1:51
Speaker 1: has a smiley face cut into it that is helpful
1:55
Speaker 1: for cleaning both sides of knives, forks, and other utensils.
2:00
Speaker 1: The Scrub Mommy is a little different because it's double sided,
2:04
Speaker 1: with a scrubber on one side and a softer sponge
2:07
Speaker 1: on the other. You probably didn't expect to get a
2:10
Speaker 1: sponge breakdown on a football podcast, but I suspect the
2:14
Speaker 1: most innovative coach in pro sports history, Paul Brown, would
2:19
Speaker 1: have appreciated the technology behind the Scrub Mommy, not to
2:24
Speaker 1: mention having very clean dishes. Now, let's get to football
2:30
Speaker 1: quarterback Tony Pike led the University of Cincinnati to back
2:33
Speaker 1: to back appearances in the Orange and Sugar Bowls despite
2:37
Speaker 1: serious injuries to his left forearm. In both seasons. He
2:42
Speaker 1: was able to keep playing after having a plate inserted
2:45
Speaker 1: into his arm that was held in place with six screws.
2:49
Speaker 1: So if anybody can identify with what Joe Burrow did
2:53
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving night, it's Tony and he joined Dave Lapham
2:57
Speaker 1: and me to discuss it this week. Scale of one
3:01
Speaker 1: to ten, all things considered, the rust coming back with
3:06
Speaker 1: a plate in his shoe. How impressed were you by
3:08
Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow did in Baltimore twelve?
3:11
Speaker 2: I mean the.
3:12
Speaker 3: Scale of that's good, Like every professional has been blown
3:16
Speaker 3: away that he came back as early as he did. Yep,
3:18
Speaker 3: And to not only come back, he goes under center
3:21
Speaker 3: on the first nap play action and rolls out to
3:23
Speaker 3: his left. It's the hardest thing your quarterback can do, right,
3:25
Speaker 3: going across your body. And then he drops back forty
3:28
Speaker 3: six times in the game. So are you thinking, like,
3:32
Speaker 3: all right, game plan, you got to kind of work
3:34
Speaker 3: around maybe some deficiencies. Is his mobility limited? He was fantastic.
3:39
Speaker 3: He do the ball thirty two times in the first half.
3:41
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
3:42
Speaker 3: Now there's credit where credits do He was only sacked once.
3:46
Speaker 4: So o.
3:47
Speaker 3: Line play has been so much better as the season
3:49
Speaker 3: has gone on. Chase Brown's been a monster. Another one
3:52
Speaker 3: hundred yard game from scrimmage, but he spreads the ball
3:55
Speaker 3: out to nine different targets. Coming back from this long
3:59
Speaker 3: of arrest after a major surgery for a quarterback, I
4:03
Speaker 3: was concerned about him pushing away from the pocket, getting
4:06
Speaker 3: out under center. He checked that box, he threw on
4:09
Speaker 3: the run. He showed no limitations. I'm still shocked, Like
4:13
Speaker 3: looking back watching the tape, I'm still shocked that he
4:17
Speaker 3: operated physically and what I was even more impressed with mentally,
4:21
Speaker 3: the checks he got on the right call, the touchdown
4:23
Speaker 3: to Yoshibash He brings in a tight end, he brings
4:25
Speaker 3: in a running back like Max protect the mental and
4:29
Speaker 3: the physical match and it looked like a guy that
4:30
Speaker 3: played all.
4:31
Speaker 5: Year, no doubt, no question. I mean, he played a
4:34
Speaker 5: phenomenal football game. But you know he proved beyond a
4:38
Speaker 5: shadow of doubt that he is the straw that stirs
4:41
Speaker 5: the drink. I mean the football team. It's a different
4:44
Speaker 5: animal with Joe Borrow at the quarterback position. I mean,
4:46
Speaker 5: he elevates everybody. Everybody just feels like, Okay, we got it,
4:51
Speaker 5: our boys back, we got our guy. We're in high
4:54
Speaker 5: cotton right now. All we have to do is is play,
4:58
Speaker 5: play hard, make plays, you know, go out there with
5:01
Speaker 5: some some emotions, some energy, some enthusiasm, because we got
5:04
Speaker 5: our we got our leader, we got our guy back.
5:07
Speaker 5: And he is He's a he's a football savant. He
5:10
Speaker 5: understands the game of football like not many. There's no question.
5:13
Speaker 5: He just he gets every single little nuance about the
5:17
Speaker 5: game of football. And uh and and nobody does better
5:20
Speaker 5: than the belief. Like you know, you've been in the
5:23
Speaker 5: locker room before he walks in. It doesn't matter if
5:26
Speaker 5: it's a long snapper, if it's a dB, a linebacker.
5:30
Speaker 5: Everyone says, all right, like there's a calmness about Joe Burrow,
5:34
Speaker 5: And now your preparation changes. Now I'm more locked in
5:37
Speaker 5: because I saw that guy come back in the locker
5:38
Speaker 5: room and I know what he expects of me and
5:40
Speaker 5: what he expects of himself. It does it it.
5:43
Speaker 3: I think confidence is one of the most important things
5:45
Speaker 3: in football, and that whole team is confident when number
5:48
Speaker 3: nine is in the locker room.
5:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think confidence is probably you know,
5:51
Speaker 5: I don't want to get overly philosophically.
5:54
Speaker 4: Confidence.
5:55
Speaker 5: Confidence is the biggest thing in life, you know. I mean,
5:57
Speaker 5: you don't think you can do it, and I got
5:59
Speaker 5: no shot, you know. I mean, if you think you
6:00
Speaker 5: can do it, you always have a shot, always have
6:02
Speaker 5: a chance. And that's what he does. He gives the
6:06
Speaker 5: team hope. That's what it boils down to keep hope alive.
6:10
Speaker 5: And Joe Burrow keeps hope alive, and everybody responds to her.
6:15
Speaker 5: Everybody ups their level of play. And when this next game,
6:20
Speaker 5: when they when they go to battle against Buffalo, when
6:22
Speaker 5: he's got both Higgins and Jamar Chase back, he should
6:27
Speaker 5: be even in higher cotton than he was against the
6:31
Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens because the trio is back.
6:34
Speaker 4: You know, It's not just a duo here and a
6:37
Speaker 4: duo there.
6:37
Speaker 5: It's all three of those guys, and all three of
6:40
Speaker 5: them are amongst the best in the NFL at their
6:42
Speaker 5: respective positions.
6:43
Speaker 4: All Right, that's a perfect segue.
6:45
Speaker 1: Let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor on Joe Burrow's
6:48
Speaker 1: impact on everybody in the building when he came back
6:52
Speaker 1: last week.
6:53
Speaker 6: I mean, he's one of the greatest players in the world,
6:55
Speaker 6: you know, and so I think anytime you get player
6:57
Speaker 6: like that back on the field, absolutely it was there.
7:00
Speaker 6: It's subconsciously or consciously. I mean it's you're excited to
7:03
Speaker 6: watch that and you're excited to rally behind that and
7:06
Speaker 6: see where he can take you.
7:08
Speaker 1: It was funny because when Joe was out and people
7:11
Speaker 1: started to speculate, well, when could he possibly come back,
7:14
Speaker 1: one thing that you heard a lot of skeptics say was, well,
7:16
Speaker 1: he doesn't play defense. Yeah, I mean there's still scoring
7:19
Speaker 1: plenty of points. He doesn't play defense. Well, that's true,
7:22
Speaker 1: but when he comes back, the defense gets five takeaways.
7:25
Speaker 1: So there was an impact on the defense for the
7:29
Speaker 1: exact reasons that you guys are talking about. He lifts
7:32
Speaker 1: all boats.
7:33
Speaker 4: Yeah he does.
7:34
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, defense really the thing you're thinking, Oh,
7:37
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be out in the field as
7:38
Speaker 5: many snaps as we've been because Joe's going to keep
7:40
Speaker 5: the offense out in the football field. They're going to
7:42
Speaker 5: convert first downs, they're going to move the chains, they're
7:45
Speaker 5: gonna be on the football field running a bunch of
7:47
Speaker 5: snaps and then like you said, you know, forcing the turnovers,
7:50
Speaker 5: taking possessions away from the opponent, and giving extras to
7:53
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. That's a good formula to win a lot
7:56
Speaker 5: of football games, with no doubt about it.
7:58
Speaker 3: It goes to I think it credits what the defense
8:03
Speaker 3: has been building to because they've put the work in
8:05
Speaker 3: as well. Al Golden has put the work in. But again,
8:08
Speaker 3: nine walks back in and you feel like, you know what,
8:11
Speaker 3: we gave up a touchdown there, but we're gonna get
8:13
Speaker 3: it back, so let's work on the next possession. Let's
8:16
Speaker 3: look ahead. I thought it was remarkable just the scene
8:19
Speaker 3: after the game with not only Joe Burrow, but so
8:22
Speaker 3: many of his teammates. You don't see that much, see
8:24
Speaker 3: a couple guys out there. Zach Taylor's probably in the
8:26
Speaker 3: locker room, like where's my team? But like I thought,
8:30
Speaker 3: I thought, for a private guy like Joe is, you
8:33
Speaker 3: got for the first time to kind of see the
8:34
Speaker 3: raw emotion of how much it meant to him and
8:37
Speaker 3: the work it took to get back on the field,
8:40
Speaker 3: the mental strain of what an injury does to you.
8:43
Speaker 3: Because you're alone, you're away from the guys and to
8:46
Speaker 3: see that just general excitement and I thought at times
8:50
Speaker 3: emotion from Joe Burrow when he's doing that post game
8:53
Speaker 3: of man, it's just I'm happy to be here. I'm
8:57
Speaker 3: grateful to be here. And I think it gives validation
9:00
Speaker 3: of the hard work it took mentally and physically for
9:02
Speaker 3: him to get back, and then to celebrate that moment
9:04
Speaker 3: with his teammates out on the field is an awesome,
9:08
Speaker 3: awesome moment. And their mindset's the right one. Like right
9:11
Speaker 3: when Joe came back, what he said, we know we
9:13
Speaker 3: gotta do. We know what we got to do, right,
9:15
Speaker 3: We got to go win every game. Yep, you know
9:17
Speaker 3: the mindset's there. You know, no one's working harder to
9:20
Speaker 3: get there than Joe Burrow. And each win that happens. Man,
9:24
Speaker 3: these guys they believe more and more they do.
9:26
Speaker 5: And you know the other people you have to give
9:28
Speaker 5: credit to is the trainers and medical staff. I mean
9:32
Speaker 5: they were instrumental. I mean he obviously gave them. He
9:34
Speaker 5: was effusive in his praise to those guys, how much
9:37
Speaker 5: they meant to him coming back in a short period
9:40
Speaker 5: of time, and he came back, you know, days and
9:43
Speaker 5: days early, not just a little bit of time, but
9:46
Speaker 5: a significant period of time earlier than people had thought
9:49
Speaker 5: and anticipated.
9:50
Speaker 4: And you know, the.
9:53
Speaker 5: Brace, the foot brace that they constructed, they designed and
9:56
Speaker 5: put together for him so he couldn't bend that toe
9:59
Speaker 5: and move that that turf tow which it was a
10:02
Speaker 5: Grade three, which is significant. Man, that's painful. Joe's tough, dude. Man.
10:06
Speaker 4: He sucked it up. He sucked it up and played.
10:08
Speaker 4: He played in some pain.
10:09
Speaker 5: And I just think that, you know, there's a lot
10:12
Speaker 5: of people that need to take a bow and take
10:14
Speaker 5: some credit. And uh, the medical staff, the training staff,
10:18
Speaker 5: his parents, I mean, his dad, his dad, jamians mother,
10:21
Speaker 5: I mean they're they're all over it too. And and
10:24
Speaker 5: total support. Joe Burrow definitely has, you know, a support system,
10:28
Speaker 5: there's no question about it. A big, a big support system.
10:31
Speaker 5: But he has to do the work and and he
10:35
Speaker 5: he's a grinder and he grounded out. Man, he did
10:38
Speaker 5: the work.
10:38
Speaker 3: It's lonely. Oh yeah, that rehab process, Yeah, it's hard,
10:42
Speaker 3: and you played through injuries before. The training staff, to
10:46
Speaker 3: me is the most vital YEP. Coaches they're gonna say everything.
10:49
Speaker 3: Coaches want you back. Yeah, hey, when you're coming back,
10:51
Speaker 3: we need you, we need players. Hey, when you we
10:53
Speaker 3: need you out here, you got friends, you got family.
10:56
Speaker 3: Like when I went through my injuries, I knew that
10:59
Speaker 3: I could trust the training staff that they were gonna
11:01
Speaker 3: be honest with you, right right right. And as much
11:03
Speaker 3: as everyone says, you got Joe Burrow in the locker room,
11:06
Speaker 3: people want you back as quick as possible. But I knew,
11:08
Speaker 3: and I know Joe like Joe knows if he asked
11:11
Speaker 3: the training staff, can I do it, and they say, yes,
11:14
Speaker 3: that's all you need. It's not your buddies, it's not
11:17
Speaker 3: your teammates, it's not everyone else that that needs you back, right,
11:20
Speaker 3: It's that trust in a training staff. You tell me
11:22
Speaker 3: I'm good, and I'm good to go right right.
11:24
Speaker 5: And I think trust is a big word. And respect,
11:28
Speaker 5: I mean there has to be a level of respect
11:29
Speaker 5: there both ways. And I know the training staff respects
11:32
Speaker 5: the hell out of Joe Burrow. I mean they think he's,
11:34
Speaker 5: you know, one of one. He's a unique cat, and
11:37
Speaker 5: no question about that. He definitely respects. Joey Bose and
11:41
Speaker 5: everybody else know that was involved in his his rehab
11:44
Speaker 5: and coming back as quickly as he did. So it
11:46
Speaker 5: was It was good to see and they did a
11:49
Speaker 5: hell of a job from top to bottom.
11:51
Speaker 4: And Joe, Joe worked.
11:54
Speaker 7: Man.
11:54
Speaker 4: One thing about Joe, he works his ass off.
11:56
Speaker 5: He's a worker Bee he's not He's not shy to
11:59
Speaker 5: roll up sleeves and get after it.
12:01
Speaker 4: Man.
12:01
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of comebacks, you reference t Higgins earlier.
12:04
Speaker 1: Let's get to the Kettering health injury report. It came
12:07
Speaker 1: out earlier today. T was limited at practice today as
12:10
Speaker 1: he comes back from a concussion. Todz Brooks, same thing.
12:14
Speaker 1: That is the normal process now for Wednesday. If you're
12:18
Speaker 1: coming back from a concussion, typically if you're limited, you'll
12:21
Speaker 1: ramp up the activity a little bit more the next day,
12:24
Speaker 1: and hopefully that is a good sign that he's going
12:26
Speaker 1: to be able to play on Sunday in Buffalo. I
12:28
Speaker 1: would expect him to.
12:30
Speaker 5: I agree with you one hundred thousand percent, Dan. I
12:32
Speaker 5: think I'd be shocked if he doesn't. Honestly, I think
12:35
Speaker 5: he's gonna play. It's an important football game. It's a
12:38
Speaker 5: good football team, multimo. I mean, the Buffalo Bills are
12:41
Speaker 5: definitely a team that's got weapons. They got plenty of weapons.
12:46
Speaker 5: Gotta win this game. They got to run the table.
12:48
Speaker 5: They know they have to run the table. There's very
12:49
Speaker 5: little margin for her. There's no margin for her. So
12:53
Speaker 5: I do think that those guys will be back and
12:56
Speaker 5: playing in Buffalo.
12:57
Speaker 1: So we agree on that. We know that Trey Hendrick
13:00
Speaker 1: is going to be out. He did not practice today.
13:02
Speaker 1: As for Buffalo, their starting tackles did not play last
13:05
Speaker 1: week against Pittsburgh. Both of those guys were limited today.
13:09
Speaker 1: The left tackle Dion Dawkins, he's coming back from a concussion.
13:13
Speaker 1: The right tackle Spencer Brown, he's coming back from his
13:16
Speaker 1: shoulder injury. Joey Bosa, the great pass rusher, did not
13:20
Speaker 1: practice today. He's dealing with a hamstring wrist Combo. Dalton Kinka,
13:25
Speaker 1: the tight end, missed the last several games. He was
13:28
Speaker 1: limited today. He's coming back from a hamstring knee issue.
13:32
Speaker 1: Where do you guys stand. If you could pick somebody
13:35
Speaker 1: that you don't want to come back for Buffalo this week,
13:38
Speaker 1: who would it be?
13:39
Speaker 3: If Dean Dawkins is listening, I wouldn't push the concussion,
13:41
Speaker 3: take another week off, relaxed. Yeah, very important to me.
13:45
Speaker 3: It's Joey bos He leaves the team in sacks. He's
13:48
Speaker 3: their sock leader and He's a guy that's dealt with
13:50
Speaker 3: injuries a lot of his career. Hamstrings are always a
13:52
Speaker 3: tricky thing. It's it's going to be cold. I that's
13:55
Speaker 3: that's a tricky injury. And he was labeled as week
13:58
Speaker 3: to week by Sean McDermott. That that changes a lot, right,
14:02
Speaker 3: if you're talking about getting T. Higgins back and then
14:05
Speaker 3: possibly not having Joey Bosa on that side. Chase Brown
14:09
Speaker 3: not only the running game, he was seven for seven
14:11
Speaker 3: targets and receptions another hundred yard day. We know what
14:13
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase is. T Higgins gets pair back up with
14:16
Speaker 3: number nine, and they lose a piece of that pass rush.
14:20
Speaker 3: It's it's all systems go for this Bengals offense.
14:23
Speaker 5: I think losing that piece of pass rush you just
14:25
Speaker 5: mentioned is huge because what it does is it diminishes
14:28
Speaker 5: the entire thing. You know, Now all of a sudden,
14:30
Speaker 5: other guys are gonna have to step up and do things.
14:32
Speaker 5: Are they capable of it? Are they are they being
14:35
Speaker 5: asked to do things outside of their limitation, outside of
14:38
Speaker 5: what they can do?
14:40
Speaker 4: You know?
14:41
Speaker 5: Now, do we have to scheme differently? Do we have
14:43
Speaker 5: to think about blitzing more because we don't have our
14:46
Speaker 5: best pass.
14:46
Speaker 4: Rush and you got to blitz Joe. Yeah, good luck, right,
14:49
Speaker 4: Joe'll pick you apart.
14:50
Speaker 5: So uh, he gets a pre snap read and it's
14:53
Speaker 5: over man that balls out and it's and it's it's completed.
14:56
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I I do think.
14:58
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, the Buffalo Bill's injury are more of
15:01
Speaker 5: a concern I would think to Buffalo than the Bengals
15:04
Speaker 5: injuries are of the Cincinnati Bengals done.
15:05
Speaker 4: I like it that.
15:06
Speaker 1: Way, and I want Dalton Kincaid out. Yeah. Yeah. Josh
15:11
Speaker 1: Allen has thrown ten picks this year. None With Dalton
15:14
Speaker 1: Kincaid on the field. They're like a different passing attack
15:17
Speaker 1: when he's out there. Kincaid has missed the Bill's last
15:20
Speaker 1: three games and was listed as limited at Thursday's practice.
15:24
Speaker 1: The Bills enter Sunday's game with a number one rushing
15:27
Speaker 1: attack in the NFL. They averaged one hundred and fifty
15:30
Speaker 1: six rushing yards per game, and that's basically what the
15:34
Speaker 1: Bengals defense has been giving up. The average is one
15:37
Speaker 1: fifty three, but the Bengals have held their last three
15:41
Speaker 1: opponents to well below that average as the defense has
15:45
Speaker 1: drastically improved. I discussed that and more with defensive tackle
15:50
Speaker 1: BJ Hill. Bj. You've been Joe burrows teammate for five years.
15:55
Speaker 1: When a guy comes back ahead of schedule from an injury,
15:58
Speaker 1: what statement does that make to it teammates?
16:01
Speaker 7: It means a lot, man, even guys who fight through
16:03
Speaker 7: injuries each and every day, seeing them out there, practicing,
16:07
Speaker 7: seeing them out on the games, meaning that they care
16:09
Speaker 7: for the guys. Some instance like you can't be out there,
16:13
Speaker 7: but guys that you know try to be out there,
16:15
Speaker 7: try to do everything's possible to get out there. It
16:17
Speaker 7: means a lot to the teammates.
16:20
Speaker 1: So I was watching the postgame celebration after the victory
16:23
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. The big tur ducan spread out there on
16:26
Speaker 1: the field. You were right in the middle of the celebration,
16:29
Speaker 1: and then it looked like you bailed before getting a bite.
16:32
Speaker 1: What happened.
16:34
Speaker 4: I was just ready to go go home.
16:35
Speaker 1: Man.
16:36
Speaker 7: It was a long two days for us, and I
16:38
Speaker 7: was like, you know what, let me get in the
16:40
Speaker 7: locker room, take a shower, and I'm ready to go
16:42
Speaker 7: home to get to my family.
16:44
Speaker 1: You got the feast the next night.
16:45
Speaker 7: I did got up early, even though we got back
16:47
Speaker 7: of late, got up early, and I smoked a turkey.
16:52
Speaker 1: All right, good to know. We're visiting with bj Hill.
16:54
Speaker 1: Over the last three weeks, the defense has given up
16:57
Speaker 1: an average of seventeen point six points. That would be
17:00
Speaker 1: number three in the NFL if it was for the
17:02
Speaker 1: entire season. What are the biggest reasons for the defensive improvement.
17:06
Speaker 7: You gotta do the little things right. This was really
17:09
Speaker 7: was killing us at the beginning of the year or
17:11
Speaker 7: halfway through year whatever. That was a little stretch. We
17:14
Speaker 7: just want to do in the little things right. And
17:15
Speaker 7: we came back and just skip on work and keep
17:18
Speaker 7: on tipping at the things that we had to get better.
17:20
Speaker 7: And we have a point that we turned around. We
17:22
Speaker 7: just gotta keep the moment and going, keep on playing defense,
17:24
Speaker 7: communicating and just playing as a team. If we keep
17:28
Speaker 7: on doing that, man, I think a lot of things
17:30
Speaker 7: to take care of itself.
17:31
Speaker 1: Are you seeing the light come on for some of
17:34
Speaker 1: your younger teammates.
17:35
Speaker 7: Oh, for sure, especially the two regular linebackers, sitting them
17:40
Speaker 7: fly around and having fun, being more confident, just being.
17:43
Speaker 8: There in their role.
17:45
Speaker 7: It's a lot when you come in have to play
17:47
Speaker 7: a lot for NFL team and you can see how
17:52
Speaker 7: they matured and take advantage of each and every rep
17:55
Speaker 7: even in practice, the way they communicate, way they come
17:57
Speaker 7: back to work. Actually just actually older got even asking
18:00
Speaker 7: me questions like I'm like, all right, I think you're
18:04
Speaker 7: gonna You're gonna be special in this league. Just just
18:05
Speaker 7: keep on working, just doing the right things of whole
18:07
Speaker 7: things over and over and never get tired of it.
18:10
Speaker 1: Do you think linebacker is especially tough for a rookie.
18:13
Speaker 1: I mean Barrett Carter for examples, wearing the green dot.
18:16
Speaker 1: He's the guy communicating without golden.
18:18
Speaker 7: I think so. I think it's tough that in safety too,
18:22
Speaker 7: playing playing those positions, especially mentally, you got a lot
18:26
Speaker 7: on your plate. They're playing de tackle is a rookie,
18:29
Speaker 7: I think it's very hard too. But playing a lot,
18:31
Speaker 7: but you got a lot on your play. You gotta
18:32
Speaker 7: get the calls, you gotta make sure you know what
18:34
Speaker 7: you're doing other people are doing, make you in the
18:35
Speaker 7: right spot, give me the right calls, the checks, and
18:39
Speaker 7: just everything you got. You definitely got a lot on
18:41
Speaker 7: the play, and you can see the way they just
18:43
Speaker 7: improved over the last couple of weeks. Man's is very
18:47
Speaker 7: exciting to see.
18:48
Speaker 1: We're chatting with b J. Hill. Joseph Osai might have
18:51
Speaker 1: had the best game of his career in Baltimore. Two sacks,
18:54
Speaker 1: four quarterback hits, and a forced fumble. I remember you
18:57
Speaker 1: raved about his effort when I asked you about him
19:00
Speaker 1: during training camp. How excited were you to see him
19:03
Speaker 1: have a game like that on Thanksgiving Night.
19:05
Speaker 7: I'd love to see my guys ball, no matter what
19:08
Speaker 7: room they I love seeing Joseph just knowing the hard
19:10
Speaker 7: work that he put in over the shoot the last
19:13
Speaker 7: couple of years, even this off seasons, The way he
19:15
Speaker 7: just attacked each and every day.
19:18
Speaker 8: It shoot me.
19:19
Speaker 7: I'm excited for him, man. It's it's really great to
19:21
Speaker 7: see you love to see guys have success on the field.
19:25
Speaker 1: You were voted one of three captains, win of three
19:27
Speaker 1: defensive captains prior to the season, but you're kind of
19:29
Speaker 1: the last man standing. Logan Wilson was traded. Trey's been hurt,
19:33
Speaker 1: He's been rehabbing. He really really hasn't been in the
19:36
Speaker 1: mix of late. How has that impacted you?
19:40
Speaker 7: Just I just want to come out here and be
19:41
Speaker 7: the best leader I can be. Push your guys, communicate
19:45
Speaker 7: to him, just you know, make sure we all on
19:47
Speaker 7: the same on the same road. Make sure we all
19:50
Speaker 7: go in the same direction. I think that's the most
19:52
Speaker 7: important part. And make sure that we're prexing practicing right now,
19:55
Speaker 7: just going through the motions, if the if that's a
19:57
Speaker 7: walk through, full speed period, no matter what it is,
20:00
Speaker 7: make sure we're always doing to the things right because
20:02
Speaker 7: it's always going to show up on the field how
20:03
Speaker 7: we practice, no matter like I said, it was four
20:05
Speaker 7: s feed or not. So I I embraced it.
20:08
Speaker 1: Man.
20:08
Speaker 7: At one point, it was kind of hard. I felt
20:11
Speaker 7: like a lot was throwing on me, but I embracing out.
20:13
Speaker 7: I love. I love coming to work and pushing them.
20:18
Speaker 7: So they're pushing me to the that lived to that standard,
20:20
Speaker 7: to play good ball, to be the best meEach in
20:23
Speaker 7: every week.
20:24
Speaker 1: You face the Bills in Buffalo this Sunday, you have
20:26
Speaker 1: faced Josh Allen three times before in your career, you
20:28
Speaker 1: have sacked him once. What stands out to you about
20:31
Speaker 1: the Bill's QB.
20:34
Speaker 7: Man, He's everything you want as a quarterback. He's one
20:37
Speaker 7: of the best in the league. He's big, he's strong,
20:39
Speaker 7: he's fast, got a good arm. He's one of the
20:44
Speaker 7: guys that's like I said, he's one of the best
20:46
Speaker 7: to do it in the league. Right now, we got
20:49
Speaker 7: a hands full, but I believe we got the defense
20:52
Speaker 7: the in in our room, the dude need to do
20:55
Speaker 7: to win the game.
20:55
Speaker 1: What do you remember about that sack?
20:59
Speaker 7: I think I second more than you. Don't really count playoffs,
21:02
Speaker 7: but you know saying we might go out the playoffs.
21:05
Speaker 4: Think I got them?
21:06
Speaker 7: Think I got them twice?
21:08
Speaker 8: I think so my apology.
21:09
Speaker 7: Now, remember I believe he's miss Samue run a text game.
21:14
Speaker 7: I got vertical. Sam rapped around on a sacking.
21:17
Speaker 8: All right.
21:18
Speaker 1: Buffalo ran for two hundred and forty nine yards last
21:21
Speaker 1: week and their win over Pittsburgh. James Cook has seven
21:23
Speaker 1: one hundred yard games this year. What must do you
21:26
Speaker 1: do to slow down that Buffalo rushing attack on Sunday?
21:29
Speaker 4: He can do it all.
21:30
Speaker 7: Catch out of the backfield, run it make you miss,
21:32
Speaker 7: hard to tackle strong, Like I said, we just got
21:35
Speaker 7: to swim to the ball. Get all hats to the ball.
21:37
Speaker 7: Tackle somebody missed the tackle, Max, sure somebody right there
21:41
Speaker 7: hitting them right after. I'll be play technically sound. Make
21:45
Speaker 7: sure we're standing our guess and playing good football together.
21:48
Speaker 7: Build a wall so you know it's hard for him
21:50
Speaker 7: to to you know, cutting them gaps and stuff like that.
21:52
Speaker 7: So we played good football for what we can do
21:55
Speaker 7: we need to do.
21:56
Speaker 1: There's still a path to win the AFC North, but
21:58
Speaker 1: it's narrow. If you win this week, does it really
22:03
Speaker 1: feel possible? Does it take a couple of wins Buffalo
22:06
Speaker 1: and Baltimore. Where do you stand on the realistic chances
22:10
Speaker 1: of still pulling this off? Uh?
22:12
Speaker 7: My mind right now, just one game at the time,
22:15
Speaker 7: I look ahead. I'll just come on and play our
22:16
Speaker 7: bis ball. Whatever happens happens. And I feel like if
22:19
Speaker 7: we put our bits for Ford on defensive sideyball, I
22:22
Speaker 7: no offense is gonna take do their part. I who
22:24
Speaker 7: do our side on the defenses I'll take care of.
22:26
Speaker 1: So appreciate your time. Best to luck against the Bills.
22:29
Speaker 7: Oh thank you.
22:30
Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps,
22:33
Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by
22:37
Speaker 1: Alta Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home,
22:41
Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering
22:44
Speaker 1: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health
22:47
Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. If you
22:51
Speaker 1: watch the game on TV this week, you'll hear an
22:53
Speaker 1: announcing crew that has not been assigned to a Bengals
22:56
Speaker 1: game this year. The analyst will be Greg Oles, who
23:00
Speaker 1: was number one on the totem pole at Fox before
23:03
Speaker 1: Tom Brady decided to get into broadcasting, and the play
23:07
Speaker 1: by play announcer on Sunday made this memorable call on
23:12
Speaker 1: November one in Toronto, bounces.
23:19
Speaker 9: To back that chap, you gotta come out the Dodger
23:23
Speaker 9: Standta Bedwin back to back titles.
23:29
Speaker 1: Joe Davis called one of the greatest world series of
23:31
Speaker 1: all time earlier this year, and he will be in
23:34
Speaker 1: the booth this Sunday when the Bengals take on the
23:36
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Joe, it's Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen. What
23:40
Speaker 1: was your initial reaction when Joe Burrow came back from
23:43
Speaker 1: his injury way ahead of schedule And how did you
23:46
Speaker 1: think he played on Thanksgiving Night?
23:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, the first thing was, Okay, this changes the Bengals,
23:52
Speaker 9: even before we saw how the game went. First half
23:56
Speaker 9: shook the rust off. I think he was the first
23:58
Speaker 9: one to even say that. But second half, it's like,
24:00
Speaker 9: my goodness, you talk about a guy completely changing the mood,
24:04
Speaker 9: changing the tone around a team, and for us selfishly
24:07
Speaker 9: going into this game, you know, we got the assignment
24:10
Speaker 9: the week before that, crossing our fingers that he looked
24:13
Speaker 9: good in his return, and he did obviously, and we
24:16
Speaker 9: are extra fired up after seeing it.
24:19
Speaker 1: So, Joe, it's the first time this year that you
24:21
Speaker 1: and Greg Olsen will call a Bengals game. What about Cincinnati?
24:25
Speaker 1: Are you eager to see whether it's an individual or
24:28
Speaker 1: something about the team in general?
24:30
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's just a continuation of Burrow, And
24:33
Speaker 9: you know, I know the playoff hopes are baint and
24:36
Speaker 9: they got to be perfect and they got to get
24:38
Speaker 9: some help. But if there's anybody that injects enough hope
24:41
Speaker 9: to further that storyline, it is Burrow and going there
24:46
Speaker 9: and facing Josh Allen. That being head to head, it's
24:49
Speaker 9: hard to beat that in terms of big stars going
24:51
Speaker 9: head to head on an NFL Sunday.
24:54
Speaker 1: The Bengals defense has had its ups and downs this year.
24:57
Speaker 1: We acknowledge that, but they've been pretty good the last
24:59
Speaker 1: few weeks. They've given up seventeen point six points over
25:03
Speaker 1: their last three games, got five takeaways in the win
25:06
Speaker 1: over Baltimore on Thanksgiving Night? What must this defense do
25:10
Speaker 1: to have success against Buffalo.
25:12
Speaker 9: Normally, Dan, you'd go, you'd say, okay, yeah, they've been
25:15
Speaker 9: better lately, but let's see what happens when they go
25:17
Speaker 9: in and face Josh Allen and the Bills. But Bills
25:20
Speaker 9: offense has not been the same. They're running the ball
25:23
Speaker 9: really well, ran all over the Steelers, but the passing
25:26
Speaker 9: game just has not been there at all. You know,
25:29
Speaker 9: top running game in the NFL, but the passing game
25:33
Speaker 9: recent years, Josh Allen has been able, even though they
25:35
Speaker 9: haven't had a number one target necessarily has been able
25:40
Speaker 9: to overcome that paper over it. It's just not quite
25:43
Speaker 9: been the same this year. So in years past, you'd say, hey,
25:46
Speaker 9: the Bills, if they could just stop the right teams,
25:49
Speaker 9: they're going to break through. Now the Bills are asking
25:51
Speaker 9: the question can they find offense? So to your question
25:54
Speaker 9: about that Bengals defense, I think it's a chance for
25:57
Speaker 9: them to continue the momentum we saw them build against
25:59
Speaker 9: obviously slouch in Baltimore, what they did against Lamar in
26:02
Speaker 9: that group.
26:03
Speaker 1: Well, let me follow up on that. Because the Bills
26:06
Speaker 1: are eight and four. If the season ended today, they
26:08
Speaker 1: would be a playoff team, but they're not quite as
26:11
Speaker 1: dominant as they've been. Josh Allen got sacked eight times
26:14
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. What do you think are
26:16
Speaker 1: the Bills' biggest issues on the overall team?
26:21
Speaker 9: I look at the offense in the passing game. They
26:23
Speaker 9: just haven't been able to throw the ball down field,
26:25
Speaker 9: and normally that's a huge strength of Josh Allen's. There's
26:28
Speaker 9: just not much around him in terms of targets. Part
26:32
Speaker 9: of that's been injuries, but massive disappointments. Josh Palmer coming
26:36
Speaker 9: over in his first season of a new contract, injured
26:39
Speaker 9: and not very good when he has been on the field.
26:41
Speaker 9: Keon Coleman, who they drafted last year hope would turn
26:44
Speaker 9: into a big play threat. He was a healthy scratch
26:47
Speaker 9: for a couple of games for off the field stuff,
26:49
Speaker 9: showed up late to meetings, and when he's been in
26:51
Speaker 9: the field he's been a disappointment. So these guys that
26:54
Speaker 9: are counting on at receiver have either been injured or disappointing.
26:58
Speaker 9: Dalton kincaid his favorite time end has been hurt the
27:01
Speaker 9: last few weeks. So that passing game, which is it's
27:04
Speaker 9: crazy to think about Josh Allen the Bills passing game.
27:07
Speaker 9: They have issues with that, but that right now, for me,
27:10
Speaker 9: is the biggest question.
27:12
Speaker 1: It's been a few years, but Joe Burrow is two
27:15
Speaker 1: and oh against the Buffalo Bills. He's two and oh
27:18
Speaker 1: head to head against Josh Allen. One of those two
27:20
Speaker 1: wins was a playoff victory in Buffalo on a snowy day,
27:25
Speaker 1: which very few teams have been able to pull off
27:27
Speaker 1: against the Bills. Do you think it's a motivating factor
27:31
Speaker 1: for Buffalo this week? The Joe Burrow and the Bengals
27:34
Speaker 1: have that history against Josh Allen and the Bills.
27:37
Speaker 9: I'm sure that it'll be on their minds. But a
27:40
Speaker 9: lot like the Bengals, the Bills are sitting there with
27:42
Speaker 9: not much room for air, So I think they have
27:44
Speaker 9: plenty of motivations just when it comes to the playoff picture,
27:47
Speaker 9: without needing any extra stimulation from who they're facing. They
27:51
Speaker 9: you know, they've won five consecutive division titles. They're two
27:54
Speaker 9: and a half games behind the Patriots, so they've got
27:57
Speaker 9: to be perfect when it comes to the division. They've
27:59
Speaker 9: got to get a little help. Patriots got to lose
28:01
Speaker 9: an extra game, so.
28:02
Speaker 8: It's kind of similar.
28:04
Speaker 9: Not as desperate as the Bengals are, but there's plenty
28:07
Speaker 9: of motivation just simply looking at the standings without needing
28:10
Speaker 9: to look across and see the guy that's heard him before.
28:13
Speaker 1: The AFC North is usually one of the NFL's top
28:17
Speaker 1: divisions at the moment, this year, nobody's over five hundred,
28:21
Speaker 1: So the Bengals are technically still alive. What do you
28:25
Speaker 1: think of the division? Do you think that there's an
28:27
Speaker 1: obvious favorite, and in your mind, do the Bengals still
28:31
Speaker 1: have a fighting chance?
28:32
Speaker 8: Yeah?
28:32
Speaker 9: This kind of brings full circle our conversation here. I
28:35
Speaker 9: think when you combine Joe Burrow's return with that division,
28:40
Speaker 9: who the heck wants it? Nobody has taken command of it.
28:43
Speaker 9: If there's ever a chance for a team that's sitting
28:46
Speaker 9: in the position that the Bengals are, yeah, I think
28:49
Speaker 9: you know, if you get a mathematical chance and then
28:52
Speaker 9: you factor in those two things, sure, and I know
28:55
Speaker 9: we're going to ride that. That adds meaning to our
28:57
Speaker 9: broadcast and adds meaning to a game that's already going
29:00
Speaker 9: to be exciting just because of the stars.
29:03
Speaker 1: You broadcast Dodgers games during the summer you've got bright
29:06
Speaker 1: sunshine behind you in California. Are you prepared for wintry
29:11
Speaker 1: conditions this Sunday in Orchard Park, New York.
29:15
Speaker 8: No, I am so soft.
29:17
Speaker 9: Dan grew up in Michigan, and after about a week
29:20
Speaker 9: of living out here, I was as soft as they come.
29:23
Speaker 9: So we've had some good training in the last couple
29:25
Speaker 9: of weeks. We're in Green Bay two weeks ago. We
29:27
Speaker 9: were in Seattle last week where it was only low forties.
29:31
Speaker 9: This is another level of cold, though, So now I'm
29:33
Speaker 9: gonna have about fourteen layers on.
29:34
Speaker 8: I got no pride, I don't care.
29:36
Speaker 9: I don't like being cold and distracted, so I'll be
29:38
Speaker 9: so bundled up. I won't even bring a tie. That
29:41
Speaker 9: would be our little secret because nobody's gonna know. I'm
29:44
Speaker 9: gonna have a scarf, a couple stars, giant coat.
29:47
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'll be warm.
29:49
Speaker 1: The George Gastanza puffy jacket. I'm sure that will look good.
29:52
Speaker 1: That will look good. I mentioned off the top, Joe
29:54
Speaker 1: that you had the opportunity to call a historically good
29:57
Speaker 1: world series this year and you match them, which I
30:01
Speaker 1: think is about the ultimate compliment that one broadcaster can
30:04
Speaker 1: pay to another. What was that moment like for you?
30:08
Speaker 1: Are those seven games like for you because it's the
30:11
Speaker 1: type of thing that every broadcaster dreams of doing.
30:14
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was, to be honest with you, I'll see
30:18
Speaker 9: that the first six games, it was incredible time in
30:22
Speaker 9: my life. I felt really good about the broadcast. We
30:24
Speaker 9: were having Game six as good as I've ever felt.
30:27
Speaker 9: Game seven is kind of this blur that I don't
30:30
Speaker 9: really know how to feel about. So much happened there
30:34
Speaker 9: in the final few winnings of that game, right down
30:36
Speaker 9: to know, we're putting things in perspective about about Toronto
30:41
Speaker 9: ending their World series drought, and then bang, Miguel Rojas happens,
30:46
Speaker 9: and a million other things happened in the hour that
30:48
Speaker 9: follows that. So it went from six games of this
30:52
Speaker 9: is great and I feel like we're on it, to
30:54
Speaker 9: what the heck just happened and we were kind of
30:57
Speaker 9: holding on for dear life. I'm sure you've had games
30:59
Speaker 9: like that too in your career where you're like, I
31:01
Speaker 9: don't know what just happened.
31:02
Speaker 8: I don't know what I said. I hope that I said.
31:05
Speaker 9: Something that was ascertainable and that made sense and that
31:09
Speaker 9: helped match the moment but man, it was kind of
31:12
Speaker 9: kind of two series within one the first six games
31:15
Speaker 9: and then that seventh game seems to stand alone in
31:17
Speaker 9: my mind.
31:18
Speaker 1: Well, I can promise you that you nailed it. You
31:21
Speaker 1: added to my enjoyment of the World Series. Congratulations on that.
31:25
Speaker 1: Look forward to hearing your call on Sunday in Buffalo.
31:27
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time.
31:29
Speaker 8: Thanks Stan, It'll be good to see you.
31:31
Speaker 1: Finally, it's time for this week's Know the Faux segment.
31:34
Speaker 1: The radio analyst for the Buffalo Bills played for the
31:37
Speaker 1: team for nine years, but he's a Cincinnati guy through
31:40
Speaker 1: and through, having graduated from Elder High School. It's former
31:44
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl center Eric Wood who talked about the Bills
31:48
Speaker 1: up and down season when he joined Dave Lapham and
31:51
Speaker 1: me on the Bengals Game Plan Show.
31:54
Speaker 2: He started off four to zero and the expectations were
31:56
Speaker 2: high heading in and it was going to be a
31:59
Speaker 2: Josh Allen MB repeat. It's a Super Bowl favorites heading
32:04
Speaker 2: into the season, and it's been a roller coaster rode.
32:06
Speaker 2: The biggest issues that they've faced defensively has been the
32:09
Speaker 2: run defense. It played well that we could go against
32:12
Speaker 2: the Steelers, but it's been an up and down season.
32:14
Speaker 2: As far as defending the run, that's been the biggest
32:17
Speaker 2: issue with the defense, and a big issue there is
32:19
Speaker 2: just simply tackling.
32:21
Speaker 1: Now.
32:21
Speaker 2: I give them somewhat of a pass for some of
32:24
Speaker 2: their struggles based upon the amount of injuries on the
32:26
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, but the run defense has
32:30
Speaker 2: struggled very bad at times this year. And then offensively,
32:35
Speaker 2: turnovers is probably our biggest issue. The passing game hasn't
32:40
Speaker 2: come alive like maybe you'd hoped, But there's guys in
32:44
Speaker 2: the receiving corps that have been injured throughout the season,
32:47
Speaker 2: and they've leaned so heavily into the run game that
32:50
Speaker 2: at times they haven't needed to get the pass game going.
32:52
Speaker 2: But the common denominator and all four of their losses
32:55
Speaker 2: have been three turnovers by the offense. And it's really
32:58
Speaker 2: hurt us.
33:00
Speaker 5: Wow, three turnovers in every single loss. That's that's that's
33:04
Speaker 5: pretty amazing. That's a that's something new, and.
33:07
Speaker 2: Dave, you know this like that that third turnover at
33:11
Speaker 2: times has come at the end of a game where
33:13
Speaker 2: you know you have to press because you're coming back.
33:15
Speaker 2: So not all turnovers are created equal, but that has
33:18
Speaker 2: been the theme in all of their losses this year.
33:22
Speaker 5: So it's it's been an up and down season obviously
33:25
Speaker 5: for for a Buffalo, the season start off gangbusters and
33:29
Speaker 5: then have had some difficulties. Is it that been the
33:32
Speaker 5: case for Josh Allen as well? Has the season basically
33:35
Speaker 5: gone as Josh Allen has played?
33:38
Speaker 2: I would say it's it's more of a team effort.
33:42
Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to rely less and less on
33:45
Speaker 2: Josh doing it all himself. Now this is December football.
33:48
Speaker 2: If need be, they'll dial up the red zone runs
33:51
Speaker 2: with him, and there's gonna be times where you're gonna
33:53
Speaker 2: see the old Josh Allen improv improvational improvisational skills. There
33:59
Speaker 2: you go, there's education coming out, but you'll see him
34:03
Speaker 2: improvise out on the field and do some of the
34:05
Speaker 2: heroics that we've seen over time. But you know this
34:09
Speaker 2: is you know, Sean mcdermoy came from Carolina, so did
34:12
Speaker 2: Brandon bean our GM. They saw how Cam Newton deteriorated
34:16
Speaker 2: towards the end based upon the amount of hits that
34:18
Speaker 2: he took, and so it's been a concerted effort over
34:20
Speaker 2: these last few years to get him to take less
34:23
Speaker 2: and less hits and so Yeah, I think there's been
34:26
Speaker 2: games where Josh hasn't played his best and the turnovers
34:29
Speaker 2: have been his fault. And then there's other times where
34:32
Speaker 2: you know, it's either been the run defense or you
34:35
Speaker 2: have guys not him, turning the football over with fumbles,
34:40
Speaker 2: and so you know, ultimately Josh is the heart and
34:44
Speaker 2: soul of the team and it's going to, you know,
34:47
Speaker 2: fall on his shoulders. But in those four losses, it
34:50
Speaker 2: hasn't all been on him.
34:51
Speaker 1: Bill's radio analyst and former Pro Bowl center Eric Wood
34:55
Speaker 1: is our guest. The Bills have had their share of
34:58
Speaker 1: injuries there. Offensive tackles did not play last week against Pittsburgh.
35:03
Speaker 1: They still ran the ball for nearly two hundred and
35:05
Speaker 1: fifty yards ere there excellent tight end Dalton Kincaid has
35:08
Speaker 1: been out for a few weeks with a tender hamstring.
35:11
Speaker 1: Who is it most important for Buffalo to get back?
35:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if Dalton Kinkaid can come back, that
35:18
Speaker 2: would be huge. Our passing numbers are dramatically better when
35:23
Speaker 2: he's been on the field this season. I believe Josh
35:25
Speaker 2: Allen's quarterback rating goes up about fifteen with him on
35:29
Speaker 2: the field, which seems extreme for a tight end, but
35:32
Speaker 2: we drafted him in the first round out of Utah
35:34
Speaker 2: three years ago, three seasons ago. Now to be a receiver.
35:38
Speaker 2: I mean, he's essentially a bigger slot receiver for us
35:42
Speaker 2: out there and maybe our best pure separator that we
35:47
Speaker 2: bring on the field each week. And so if he's
35:49
Speaker 2: able to play against the Vengels, I'd say that would
35:52
Speaker 2: be probably the one that I would take. Now, if
35:55
Speaker 2: Hendrickson was going to play, I might say one of
35:58
Speaker 2: the two tackles are spect Deon Dawkins are left tackle.
36:01
Speaker 2: But with him likely ruled out, which is a very
36:05
Speaker 2: interesting situation. I followed along with it. But with him
36:08
Speaker 2: ruled out, a gimme kincaid if we can get one
36:11
Speaker 2: of them back.
36:13
Speaker 5: So, looking at the Buffalo Bills offensive line, you played
36:17
Speaker 5: that position so well, Pro Bowl player, nine year veteran player,
36:21
Speaker 5: almost played a decade. What the offensive line has been
36:26
Speaker 5: inconsistent as well? With their with their play, with their
36:29
Speaker 5: level of play. What is the biggest reason for it?
36:31
Speaker 5: Do you think?
36:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've had a good year. They got
36:36
Speaker 2: exploited against the Houston Texans on Thursday night. Football Spencer
36:40
Speaker 2: Brown was playing with the herd shoulder and Dion Dawkins
36:43
Speaker 2: got got a concussion.
36:45
Speaker 8: In the game.
36:45
Speaker 2: I'll just say that he got examined on the sideline.
36:49
Speaker 2: They put him back in obviously wasn't playing like himself,
36:51
Speaker 2: and then he was out the Pittsburghers game because of
36:53
Speaker 2: the concussion suffered in that game. We also used a
36:57
Speaker 2: lot of five man protections in that game and throughout
36:59
Speaker 2: the season. Joe Brady, our offensive coordinator, has a lot
37:02
Speaker 2: of confidence in this offensive line to carry the unit,
37:05
Speaker 2: to run the football behind them consistently, and then we
37:08
Speaker 2: have not used a lot of chips or running back
37:11
Speaker 2: help in the passing game because he's got a lot
37:14
Speaker 2: of faith in them. That came to a head on
37:16
Speaker 2: against the Texans when we gave up eight sacks. And
37:20
Speaker 2: that's where I said, you know that I wouldn't put
37:23
Speaker 2: the entire blame of the Texans game on Josh Allen,
37:26
Speaker 2: being that he was under dress most of the game.
37:29
Speaker 2: And so I feel like this unit has performed exceptionally
37:32
Speaker 2: well throughout the season, minus I would say that Texans game.
37:37
Speaker 5: So what do you think Eric is the big key
37:40
Speaker 5: to the to the game? I mean, Buffalo needs to win,
37:44
Speaker 5: the Bengals need to win it's a musk game for
37:46
Speaker 5: both football teams. What do you think is the is
37:49
Speaker 5: the biggest key for the Buffalo Bills to sustain their
37:53
Speaker 5: season and to give them victory in Cincinnati.
37:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say can painting Joe Burrow and especially
38:02
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. And that doesn't mean you shut those guys
38:05
Speaker 2: completely down. They're too good of a connection to completely
38:07
Speaker 2: shut them down. But Jamar Chase got the most yards
38:10
Speaker 2: after catch in the NFL when he does catch the football,
38:13
Speaker 2: be able to tackle him limit those yards after the catch.
38:16
Speaker 2: And then Chase Brown, whether it's you know, receiving or rushing,
38:21
Speaker 2: he's what is he got over one hundred yards from
38:23
Speaker 2: scrimmage the last three games. Sorry sorry, Yeah, six in
38:30
Speaker 2: a row. Extremely impressive. You got to be able to
38:32
Speaker 2: tackle him as well. He's he's low to the ground,
38:35
Speaker 2: he's he's a great football player. And then on the
38:40
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, I think this Bills team
38:42
Speaker 2: should be able to establish the run against the Bengals,
38:44
Speaker 2: and then it's the play action off of that, and
38:46
Speaker 2: can you connect down the field to make them pay
38:50
Speaker 2: if they're going to bring their safeties down And that's
38:52
Speaker 2: been a lot of the Bills recipe for success this year. Offensively,
38:56
Speaker 2: it's established the run and then takes your take your
38:59
Speaker 2: shots off of those plays.
39:01
Speaker 1: How's the new stadium looking, going up right next to
39:04
Speaker 1: high Mark?
39:06
Speaker 2: It's it's actually incredible. I got to do a tour
39:08
Speaker 2: of it about two weeks ago. With the two main
39:11
Speaker 2: architects and the attention to detail, and you know, the
39:15
Speaker 2: amenities that you're going to now have in the new
39:18
Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium is going to be really special Old
39:22
Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium these last three games, if we don't
39:24
Speaker 2: host a home playoff game, if these are the last three,
39:26
Speaker 2: I'm going to cherish them. So much history there and
39:29
Speaker 2: I love that building. And uh, you guys know we
39:32
Speaker 2: get we get one of the better radio setups in
39:35
Speaker 2: the league. As far as size of the booth and
39:38
Speaker 2: our location.
39:39
Speaker 4: Yah'll be terrible.
39:42
Speaker 8: It won't be terrible.
39:42
Speaker 2: We'll just feel a little bit higher up in the
39:44
Speaker 2: new stadium. They still gave us some respect in that regard.
39:48
Speaker 2: But you know, I appreciate the nostalgia of old high
39:52
Speaker 2: Mark Stadium. And I've never gone to a game truly
39:55
Speaker 2: as a spectator, but I've heard some of the amenities
39:58
Speaker 2: are pretty rough over there.
40:00
Speaker 1: The new stadium features a one point seven billion dollar
40:04
Speaker 1: price tag, and despite Buffalo's notoriously bad weather, will not
40:08
Speaker 1: have a roof. It will feature a large canopy covering
40:13
Speaker 1: about two thirds of the seats designed to protect fans
40:17
Speaker 1: from the elements, but the Bills wanted to keep the
40:20
Speaker 1: field exposed to the weather, which fits the traditional Buffalo
40:24
Speaker 1: football experience. Here's a quick invitation to join lapp In
40:28
Speaker 1: Wayne box Miller for the Bengals pep Rally show on Friday.
40:31
Speaker 1: They'll be at the on the Rhine Eatery, the food
40:34
Speaker 1: hall on the second floor above the downtown Kroger on
40:37
Speaker 1: Friday from two thirty to five thirty, and their scheduled
40:40
Speaker 1: guest in the final hour will be rookie linebacker Barrett Carter.
40:45
Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the
40:47
Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast, brought to you by pay Corps. Proud
40:50
Speaker 1: to be the Bengals official HR software provider by Alta
40:54
Speaker 1: Fiber future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business,
40:58
Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health
41:02
Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is
41:05
Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. If you haven't
41:08
Speaker 1: done so already, please subscribe to this podcast and if
41:12
Speaker 1: you have a minute, give it a rating or share
41:14
Speaker 1: a comment that helps more Bengals fans find us. I'm
41:19
Speaker 1: Dan Horde and thanks for listening to the Bengals Booth
41:23
Speaker 1: podcast