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The Kenny Report | 10 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skoing New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight. Anthony Albanesi doubles down on
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  Speaker 2: his energy delusion as the UK accelerates its nuclear power
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  Speaker 2: plan while the federal government bans Israeli commentators. The real
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  Speaker 2: hate preaching in this country continues. Rioting continues in Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles as the politicians let loose with talk of civil
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  Speaker 2: war and political arrests across to Christian Tate in the US.
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  Speaker 2: All that and plenty more with Tim Blair, Christian mcsweeny
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  Speaker 2: and Stephen Center tiampe Let's get cracking. The Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: spoke at the National Press Club today and what was
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  Speaker 2: billed as a major speech outlining his second term agenda,
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  Speaker 2: in reality, there was little in it except Anthony Albanesi
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  Speaker 2: claiming a sweeping endorsement of his view of Australia, which
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  Speaker 2: on one level he's entitled to do, having won a
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  Speaker 2: thumping majority, but also on another level he's kidding himself
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  Speaker 2: because Labor won less than thirty five percent of the
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  Speaker 2: primary vote, so it hardly has a plan that's wildly popular.
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  Speaker 2: The main news out of the speech was that Albanezy
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  Speaker 2: plans to do what both major parties should have done
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  Speaker 2: before the election, come up with a policy mix for
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  Speaker 2: economic growth and productivity.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I've asked the Treasurer Jim Chalmers to convene
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  Speaker 3: a round table to support and shape our government's growth
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  Speaker 3: and productivity agenda at Palmer House in August. We will
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  Speaker 3: bring together a group of leaders from the business community,
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  Speaker 3: the union movement, and civil society.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we need economic reform, that's for sure. Maybe some
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  Speaker 2: good ideas will come out of this round table, roundtable summit,
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  Speaker 2: whatever they're going to call it. But when you consider
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  Speaker 2: one of the main problems in the economy is our
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  Speaker 2: over regulated labor market, you'd think your unions will kill
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  Speaker 2: off any meaningful reform there. And tax reform is probably
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  Speaker 2: too hard for our current crop of politicians too. Trimming
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  Speaker 2: government spending is a test they keep failing as well.
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  Speaker 2: So perhaps the best we can hope for is cutting
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  Speaker 2: some red tape. One critical economic input is energy and
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  Speaker 2: electricity prices. We've thrown away our cheap energy advantage, of course,
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  Speaker 2: putting a handbrake on our economy, even a millstone around
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  Speaker 2: its neck. Thanks to the pretense that we can change
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  Speaker 2: the climate. The latest threats from our national energy Self
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  Speaker 2: harm comes with the Tomago aluminium smelter in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales Hunter Region, where one thousand direct jobs and five
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  Speaker 2: thousand jobs indirectly could go. If the operation collapses in
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  Speaker 2: the face of escalating electricity prices, it's likely at the
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  Speaker 2: very least to need some sort of government bailout. So
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  Speaker 2: given this Labour's abject failure to deliver the cheaper power
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  Speaker 2: costs it promised in its first term, the loudest noise
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  Speaker 2: in Olbow's speech today was what he did not say.
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  Speaker 2: He did not mention electricity prices at all. He was
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  Speaker 2: silent on it, sticking to his usual lines about net zero.
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  Speaker 3: Instead, a future where we realize our potential as a
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  Speaker 3: renewable energy superpower, a future where we have a thriving
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  Speaker 3: advanced manufacturing industry.
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  Speaker 2: This is delusional. Talk of a renewable energy superpower is laughable.
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  Speaker 2: There is no such thing, and Labour's pretense that we
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  Speaker 2: can become one is pushing manufacturing out of this country.
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  Speaker 2: Just ask Tom Agan. We need to measure Labour's nonsensical
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  Speaker 2: energy retric against reality.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be leading the global green hydrogen revolution, and what
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  Speaker 4: we know is the green hydrogen sector has an enormous
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  Speaker 4: potential in this country. Only Labor has the plan to
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  Speaker 4: ensure that Australia is part of and is leading that
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  Speaker 4: hydrogen revolution.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the green hydrogen revolution, that's what they actually say.
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  Speaker 2: This is just risible. They're having a lend of us.
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  Speaker 2: I've shown you before the long list of multi billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars so called green hydrogen projects backed by governments with subsidies,
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  Speaker 2: and they've still fallen over. And now it's been revealed
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  Speaker 2: that the projects that are still proceeding for now at
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  Speaker 2: least or they say their hydrogen output will end up
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  Speaker 2: being four times more expensive than rival energy sources. In
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  Speaker 2: other words, they're not economic. They're not financially or practically viable.
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  Speaker 2: Labor continues to try to sell this country and energy
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  Speaker 2: pup your dollars, chasing impossible renewable and hydrogen dreams. Now
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  Speaker 2: the only proven, reliable, emissions free energy source is the
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  Speaker 2: one that Labor opposes.
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  Speaker 3: Austrange rejected nuclear power, not just because of its staggering cost,
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  Speaker 3: but because people recognize the liberals and nationals plan for
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  Speaker 3: what it was, a last desperate attempt to delay action
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  Speaker 3: on climate change and derail the transition to renewable energy now.
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  Speaker 2: For anyone looking at this issue logically and examining what's
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  Speaker 2: happening around the world, this is an extraordinarily ignorant claim.
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  Speaker 2: All Alberanes he needs to do is talk to his
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  Speaker 2: Labor party mates in the UK who are all in
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  Speaker 2: on nuclear now, and talk about how indispensable it is.
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  Speaker 2: Energy Secretary Ed Milliband has announce the biggest nuclear program
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  Speaker 2: in a generation to get Britain off what he calls
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  Speaker 2: the fossil fuel roller coaster. Labour will now build another
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  Speaker 2: massive nuclear power station and develop small modular reactors with
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  Speaker 2: a spend of more than more than fourteen billion pounds
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  Speaker 2: or thirty billion Australian dollars. All of the expert advice
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  Speaker 2: says nuclear has a really important role to play in
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  Speaker 2: the energy system, says Milliband, in any sensible reckoning, this
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  Speaker 2: is essential to get our clean power and net zero ambitions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: UK labor recognizes that nuclear is essential to get to
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  Speaker 2: net zero. Australian labor is pretending that green hydrogen and
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  Speaker 2: wind turbines and solar panels can do the job. The
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  Speaker 2: trouble is they're not only betting your dollars on this
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  Speaker 2: they're betting your few on it too. Reports out of
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  Speaker 2: Israel tell us the crew of the so called aid
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  Speaker 2: flotilla vessel the Maldine, including Greta Tumberg, are at Bengurion
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  Speaker 2: Airport about to be deported. The Israeli Defense Minister did
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  Speaker 2: arrange for the group to be shown a video depicting
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  Speaker 2: the atrocities of October the seventh, but apparently once they
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  Speaker 2: knew what they were watching, these people refuse to see
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  Speaker 2: the rest of it. They prefer to maintain their ignorance
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  Speaker 2: rather than bear witness to the horrors of Hummus. It
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  Speaker 2: seems incredible, although not entirely surprising, that these people whose
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  Speaker 2: actions provide indirect support to Hummas don't want to know
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  Speaker 2: what Hummus does. Now. What we show you from that
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  Speaker 2: day is incredibly sanitized on television, especially at this time
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  Speaker 2: of the day. We can't show you anything of the
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  Speaker 2: grow tesque, cruelty and bloodthirsty violence that unfolded on that day.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen these videos. I've always believed it's my duty
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  Speaker 2: since October the sev to know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: The last time I saw some of this material was
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  Speaker 2: a video I was shown in Israel by the Defense
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  Speaker 2: Force there a fortnight ago, probably the same video they
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  Speaker 2: tried to show Tomberg and her mates overnight. If you
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  Speaker 2: want to have a view on the current war, you
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  Speaker 2: need to know what Hummus is. If you're going to
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  Speaker 2: know what Hummas is, you need to see the evidence.
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  Speaker 2: But these media grandstandards wouldn't even bear witness to the
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  Speaker 2: horrors of Hummus, even though Hummas clearly benefits from their activism.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned last night how Greta Tumberg's claims that she
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  Speaker 2: was about to be kidnapped were sickening given the real
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  Speaker 2: kidnappings at the start of all this. Here's a social
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  Speaker 2: media clip that makes that point very clearly.
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  Speaker 5: We have been intercepted, kidnapped, intercepted and kidnapped, intercepted and kidnapped,
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  Speaker 5: and kidnapped and kidnapped and kidnapped and kidnapped and kidnapped
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  Speaker 5: and kidnapped and kidnapped and kidnapped.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't portray yourselves as victims when there are plenty
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  Speaker 2: of real victims, and when real kidnapped hostages are still
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  Speaker 2: held in the tunnels of Gaza more than twenty months
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  Speaker 2: since they were taken at gunpoint. Yeah, Tumberg and her
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  Speaker 2: crew claim to be humanitarians, but what they do is
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  Speaker 2: an affront to humanity. They're promoting themselves rather than seeking answers.
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  Speaker 2: They're full of self importance, yet refuse to inform themselves.
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  Speaker 2: This sort of grandstanding only helps the evil propagandists of Hummus,
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  Speaker 2: which of course only prolongs war. Yesterday I shared my
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  Speaker 2: disgust at the Albaneze labor government for blocking visas for
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  Speaker 2: prominent Israelis who'd plan to visit our country. The government
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  Speaker 2: claims to have done this to prevent the spread of hatred,
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  Speaker 2: and has even used the term Islamophobia, which of course
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  Speaker 2: is a disgraceful inversion of reality given the anti Semitism
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  Speaker 2: we've seen in Australia over the past twenty months. Last year,
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  Speaker 2: the Albenezy government banned former Israeli government minister Alet Shakhad,
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  Speaker 2: and last week, of course, it banned a respected tech commentator,
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  Speaker 2: Hillel Ford, who was coming here for a charity event.
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  Speaker 2: This targeting of Israeli visitors is especially sickening when you
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  Speaker 2: consider how this government has recklessly handed out three thousand
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  Speaker 2: visas to people from Hummas controlled gaza in a way
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  Speaker 2: that can't have included diligent, secure already checks. And it
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  Speaker 2: comes while vile hatred is being preached in this country
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  Speaker 2: against Jewish people without the government taking any appropriate action.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this Sydney Islamic preacher just two weeks after
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  Speaker 2: Hummus's October seventh atrocities in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 6: Brothers and sisters and are being killed, amilated by the
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  Speaker 6: descendants of acent monkeys, of swine and monkeys.
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  Speaker 2: And here is the same hate preacher just over a
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  Speaker 2: week later.
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  Speaker 7: Towards the end of times, when the Muslims will be
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  Speaker 7: fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stone will speak,
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  Speaker 7: and I'll say, oh, Muslim, believe there is a Yahudi
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  Speaker 7: behind me, Come and kill him.
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  Speaker 2: With this sort of hatred being expressed, apparently without any
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  Speaker 2: government attempts to stamp it out, the Executive Council of
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  Speaker 2: Australian Jury lawn civil legal action against with Hadad under
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  Speaker 2: the Racial Discrimination Act, and had AD posted a provocative
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  Speaker 2: video in the lead up to the case.
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  Speaker 7: I have no problem facing the Jewish lobby, even when
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  Speaker 7: they drag us in courts, even if they put my
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  Speaker 7: photo and the photo of the censer on the media.
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  Speaker 7: I have absolutely no problem with that, and I have
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  Speaker 7: openly condemned any system other than the system of all
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  Speaker 7: hors of hand or that Ali.
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  Speaker 2: But they are the one dragging us to court.
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  Speaker 8: So we're not going to come unarmed. We're going to
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  Speaker 8: fight them with everything that we have. But if this
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  Speaker 8: fighting means that it.
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  Speaker 9: Brings some sort of strength to the Muslim community, and
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  Speaker 9: it teaches the Muslim community that we should no longer
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  Speaker 9: be bullied every time someone has a problem with Islam
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  Speaker 9: and the Muslims with bow our heads.
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  Speaker 7: Every time they put us in the media, we get
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  Speaker 7: scared every time they take us to court.
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  Speaker 9: Pretty soon we'll start closing.
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  Speaker 8: Out messages because we don't want the pressure.
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  Speaker 7: Isn't it about time that somebody fights back.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it about time that.
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  Speaker 7: Somebody stands up to these bullies? And this is a
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  Speaker 7: humbles something that I'm personally willing to do.
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  Speaker 2: It's a worry, isn't it. This case began in the
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  Speaker 2: federal court today, and lawyers for the Jewish community said
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  Speaker 2: the preacher's speeches were threatening, offensive, and calculated to denigrate
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  Speaker 2: all Jewish people. Hadad's lawyers deny he's breached the law
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  Speaker 2: and they say his speeches were based on Islamic religious texts.
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  Speaker 2: Sky News chief reporter Caroline Marcus was there.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Hada, do you accept that your sermons were anti simitic?
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  Speaker 5: Do you have anything to say about the video you
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  Speaker 5: posted yesterday with a sword?
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  Speaker 1: Are you preaching hate?
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  Speaker 2: Sir? Do you think that video was a threat. The
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  Speaker 2: banks Down preacher is expected to give evidence and be
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  Speaker 2: cross examined in coming days. Now I ask you what's
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  Speaker 2: more threatening to social cohesion in this country? What promotes
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  Speaker 2: hatred in our society? The hateful words directed at Jews
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  Speaker 2: by preachers in this country or the public remarks of
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  Speaker 2: Israeli visitors who support the right of their country to exist.
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  Speaker 2: The fact our own government is so confused or lily
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  Speaker 2: lived on these issues is a deep, deep worry for
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  Speaker 2: this country. Let's go live to adelaid Down and catch
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  Speaker 2: up with Anne Rust and the shadow health minister. Good
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  Speaker 2: to catch up with again, and let's go on to
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  Speaker 2: domestic issues. And I want to go back to what
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  Speaker 2: I had to say about Anthony Albanisi ruling out some
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  Speaker 2: nuclear ignoring any mention of electricity prices. Now it flies
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  Speaker 2: in the face of what his labor mates are doing
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  Speaker 2: in the UK, where they recognize if they want to
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  Speaker 2: get to net zero, the only option is nuclear energy.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think the thing that we saw today was
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  Speaker 10: that this is a prime minister that is doubling down
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  Speaker 10: on an ideological driven renewables energy approach. That I mean,
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  Speaker 10: every Australian right now knows that we've got some of
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  Speaker 10: the highest energy prices in the world, and he and
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  Speaker 10: his Energy minister, you know, Chris Bowen, still seemed to
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  Speaker 10: be doubling down. We've seen you know, he talked about
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  Speaker 10: the cost of green energy we saw this morning in
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  Speaker 10: the paper four times the price to even be competitive
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  Speaker 10: in our energy gridd and yet the Prime Minister just
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  Speaker 10: seems to be completely blind to any other solution, whatever
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  Speaker 10: that might be, so that Australians can have a reliable
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  Speaker 10: and affordable pay He doesn't seem to care about that.
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  Speaker 10: All he seems to be caring about is his pursuit
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  Speaker 10: of this ideological renewable energy future that is proving not
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  Speaker 10: to be deliverable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's an economic disaster and I was staggered that
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't asked about it today because of course they
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  Speaker 2: promised to lower electricity prices in the first term. Instead
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  Speaker 2: they went up by about one thousand bucks a year.
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  Speaker 2: So we've now got a real economic crisis with our
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  Speaker 2: energy costs. And the tom Ago, the aluminium smelter with
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  Speaker 2: about six thousand jobs depending on his existence, is saying
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  Speaker 2: that it might have to close down should that company
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  Speaker 2: be receiving some sort of government bailout to compensate for
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  Speaker 2: the electricity costs. That's having a wear well look.
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  Speaker 10: I think he goes to a broader issue here. The
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  Speaker 10: government constantly is providing subsidies and handouts and the like
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  Speaker 10: of taxpayers money to fix up a problem that is
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  Speaker 10: of their own making. I mean, as you rightly point out,
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  Speaker 10: two hundred and seventy five dollars our pabuls were supposed
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  Speaker 10: to have gone down by by this year. Clearly the
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  Speaker 10: complete opposites happened with increases of over one thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 10: But the government really does need to take a very
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  Speaker 10: serious look at the failing of their energy policy. I mean,
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  Speaker 10: if Chris Bowen was a executive in any sensible company
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  Speaker 10: around Australia, he would have been five years ago, and
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  Speaker 10: yet he still stays in this job, completely destroying the
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  Speaker 10: very thing that underpins our economy, and that's affordable and
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  Speaker 10: reliable energy. I mean, it just is incredible that this
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  Speaker 10: government still keeps doubling down on this failed policy pursuit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's announced this round table for economic growth and productivity.
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  Speaker 2: Shouldn't power costs, electricity costs be top of that agenda
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  Speaker 2: because it's one thing governments can affect.
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  Speaker 10: Look absolutely, energy is the economy. We know that. That's
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  Speaker 10: why we're taking a very considered approach to making sure
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  Speaker 10: that the coalition's energy policy going to the next election
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  Speaker 10: is one that will deliver reliable and affordable power at
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  Speaker 10: the same time as making sure emission's reduction is part
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  Speaker 10: of the mix. But you know when I heard about
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  Speaker 10: a round table, I mean how many roundtables, how many reviews?
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  Speaker 10: How many times is this government just going to look
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  Speaker 10: at things? I mean, if you look at the last
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  Speaker 10: three years, there must be a stack of reviews and
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  Speaker 10: reports that are sitting on the Prime Minister's desk and
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  Speaker 10: all his minister's desk. They're not worth the paper they're
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  Speaker 10: written on unless somebody does something with them. Once again,
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  Speaker 10: we've got an the roundtable. I think Australians really need
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  Speaker 10: to be asking their government when you're actually got to
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  Speaker 10: do something instead of just talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty embarrassing, is in that being elected for a
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  Speaker 2: second term and they're saying, now we're going to try
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  Speaker 2: and work out what we need to do to improve
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  Speaker 2: the economy. It is just staggering that they get re
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  Speaker 2: elected without having those policies on board. And obviously you
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  Speaker 2: as a coalition as well as an opposition, should have
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  Speaker 2: a list of policies ready to do all that. And look,
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at this review now, so we'll keep following that,
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  Speaker 2: but we will see someone's going to have to come
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  Speaker 2: up with the economic agenda at some stage. I just
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  Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on the drought because I
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  Speaker 2: know you're from the country South Australia. South Australia has
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  Speaker 2: been hit very bad, along with the large parts of
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  Speaker 2: Victoria and New South Wales. There's been a bit of
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  Speaker 2: rain over the last four or five days. Has that
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  Speaker 2: been enough to give any relief? And what's the financial situation?
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  Speaker 2: Presumably so many farmers are so many property owners still
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  Speaker 2: need feed. That feed isn't going to present at still
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  Speaker 2: for immediately. They need to buy that in what needs
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  Speaker 2: to happen. Well.
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  Speaker 10: Look, certainly we have seen some welcome rain in the
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  Speaker 10: last few days, but nowhere near enough to break the
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  Speaker 10: drought here in South Australia. I was up in Jamestown
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  Speaker 10: on Thursday and Friday when the Rapid Relief team came
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  Speaker 10: in with fifteen hundred and sixty two bales of premium hay,
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  Speaker 10: which was really really gratefully received. But the thing that
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  Speaker 10: is so frustrating is that the federal government has at
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  Speaker 10: its hand the tools to be able to help these farmers.
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  Speaker 10: We did it in twenty nineteen when there was a
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  Speaker 10: drought in Southern Australia by providing interest free loans. I
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  Speaker 10: mean these are loans the farmers will pay them back,
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  Speaker 10: but just give them a cash flow break for a
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  Speaker 10: couple of years without having to pay back the interest
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  Speaker 10: on the loan and the loan for that period of time.
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  Speaker 10: But so far the government has just been completely deaf
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  Speaker 10: to the concerns and the tragedy that's happening in rural
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  Speaker 10: and regional Australia at the moment. You know, they talk
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  Speaker 10: a big game, but they don't deliver. And once again
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  Speaker 10: here in South Australia, as we've seen in New South
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  Speaker 10: Wales and Victoria. The government are do nothing apart from
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  Speaker 10: admiring the problem. They really do need to do something
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  Speaker 10: to help these farmers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's the best solutions, short term solution. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining us out. I appreciate it. Down rust In their
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  Speaker 2: live from South Australia to come in the cash for
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  Speaker 2: the interest free loans so they can buy the feed
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  Speaker 2: to keep their stock alive. As Anne Rustin said, you'll
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  Speaker 2: get the money back just without interest. Now let's get
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  Speaker 2: back to Israel, Greta Tumberg, the United Nations and Australia.
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  Speaker 2: I want to catch up again with Hillel Noya, who
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  Speaker 2: heads up United Nations Watch. Hello, good to catch up
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  Speaker 2: with you again. There's so much to talk about on
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  Speaker 2: this topic, but I wanted to start with your namesake. HELLEL. Full,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the tech commentator and blogger, an American Israeli commentator banned
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: from Australia. Just in the last few days. He was
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: going to speak here at a charity event. As you know.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Australia has dubbed him divisive and Islamophobic?
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: Well, I find it particularly surprising because when I was
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: last in Australia just over a week ago. I was
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: there to uncover the fact that Australian organizations were involved
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: in funding the trip to Australia a year and a
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: half ago of an open supporter of AMAS terrorism named
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: Francesca Albinizi, who has been famously condemned for anti Semitism
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: by France, Germany, Canada, the United States, the Netherlands and
• 21:34
  Speaker 11: many organizations. And that person was embraced by the Australian government.
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: She was met by members of DEFAT in Canberra, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: she was funded by groups in Australia that openly support
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: Yahia Sinwar, the mastermind of AMAS terrorism. By contrast, my namesake,
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: gentleman Hillel Fool, who is a well known tech speaker
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: on technology, was invited to speak at a fundraiser for
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: Israel's emergency medical service Magen David Adom, which runs an
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: ambulance service with Arab and Israeli medics that save Arabs
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: and Jews alike, and he was turned down.
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: So I'm seeing a contrast.
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: If you support Hamas terrorism, you get the red carpet,
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: you get meetings in Canberra, you get to speak in
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: the Australian press.
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: Club, you go on ABC TV.
• 22:31
  Speaker 11: But if you're a tech speaker coming to speak for
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: a group that promotes humanitarianism, it's part of the International
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: Red Cross movement, supports peace, you get absurdly banned from Australia.
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: Something's wrong in your country.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It is a warry. I should point out straight away
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that Francesca Altbadasy, I think would dispute the fact that
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: she supports Hamas terrorists. Certainly some of the groups she
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: deals with openly support to yoga simwha on the likes
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: as you say, But I do want to stick with
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: that scen as you've gone there, because I know you've
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You've looked a lot.
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: In November twenty two.
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: In November twenty twenty two, she spoke at a conference
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: organized by some of the leaders of HERMAS and.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: She said you have the right to resist. So that's
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: on her record. I'll just put it there.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, right, But she would say she's talking about
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Palestinian people having the right to resist. I just want
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to clarify that. She would contest that. But I want
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to go to her status and as you say, she
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: was recently in Australia. She says that the United Nations
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: paid for that trip. But yes, some of these organizations
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: did invite her to speak to them, and they like
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I noticed that last night. Our ABC uses her as
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a supposedly objective commentator on these issues. Here she is
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: last night on the ABC.
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: Israel has absolutely no authority to intercept and stop a
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: boat like these, which carried Umanitarian aid and Moost and
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: everything else humanity to the people of Gaza.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: She gets a free reign. She has that, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the lofty backing of the United Nations. But she says
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: things that are completely untrue. Have a look at this
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: from her latest Vanity Fair article where she says there
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: is a genocide going on in Palestine. And when I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: said it last year, no one was saying it. Yet
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: now no one denies it. Now surely the world is
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: full of people who denied the absurdity of a genocide
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: against the Palestinian people in Gaza.
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: Well, of course, look, Francesca Albanisi has been accusing Israel genocide,
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: not just the past year, or since October seventh, when
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: Israel was attacked in a massacre, a vicious massacre.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: Where twelve hundred Israelis were killed in one day.
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: She's been accusing Israel genocide for well over a decade.
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: Let's keep in mind, she is someone who has repeatedly
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: said that the Holocaust is comparable to what the Palestinians
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: have suffered nineteen forty eight, and she said there's been
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: an ongoing genocide since then.
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: So this is someone.
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: Who's completely against Israel's very existence. She famously wrote an
• 25:10
  Speaker 11: open letter on Facebook in twenty fourteen where she said,
• 25:14
  Speaker 11: and I quote, America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby.
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: So America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby. That is
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: sort of nineteen thirty's Berlin style anti semitism. And that's
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: why she's the first un expert in history to have
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: ever been condemned by France or Germany or Canada for
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: anti semitism. So there's a reason why she was disinvited
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: from the Dutch Parliament, disinvited to speak in the US Congress.
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: So it's a notorious figure. And if we were living
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: in a normal world, Chris, this person would be completely shunned.
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: But we're in a very strange world. Things have gone
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: upside down, and those who basically you know she when
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: he says that armed attacks against Israel are quote unquote resistance.
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: She says wild things every day.
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: And I'll just note that when she came to Australia,
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: the according to DFAT and a Freedom of information request,
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: there were the Australian government's internal documents say that she
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: was not on an official UN trip. So if the
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: UN paid for it, well, another UN agency found that
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: external groups funded it, and again the Australian Friends of Palestine,
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: they said that they sponsored her trip.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, let's see, let's say there were saints. So
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. It's shocking the way that she
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: gets to say all this stuff when being portrayed by
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the media and others as some sort of honest broker.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: She was even hosted by the Australian Human Rights Commission
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: when she was here, and she is not a voice
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: of objectivity on this issue. In fact, she's very, very divisive.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And thanks for bringing that to our attention, Hillela, I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Noier there, who's heads up the United Nations.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Watch got to get to a break. After that, I'm
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: going to talk about another setback for the government's green
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: hydrogen dream. Tim Blair will join me to discuss some
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: energy problems Now, just before I go to Tim Blair,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring you up to speed with a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: news story that took my attention over the past couple
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of days. Certainly Tim Blair has noticed it as well.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: It relates to electric vehicles and fires on the high seas.
• 27:31
  Speaker 13: Have a look in the Pacific nearer Alaska. A ghost
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: ship left to burn or crew forced to abandon the
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: morning mitis when the vessel caught a light while transporting
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: three thousand cars from China to Mexico, eight hundred electric
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: vehicles supercharging the blaze. The rising popularity of evs and
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: hybrid seeing thousands of more shipped to our shores, transportation
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: of these vehicles coming with a greater risk. But Ports
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: Australia says there is no set plan nationally for if
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  Speaker 13: such an event like this were to unfold closer to home.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a shocker. They got twenty two crew off
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the ship, but it's just floating out there burning. Now
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: let's go to the Wimm and catch up with Tim
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Blair from the Daily Telegraph. Good to talk to you again, Tim.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You've written about this in your column. The point about
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: this is a horrible situation, but it's certainly not the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: first of its kind.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had a few EV loaded ships either bursting
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a flame and being hauled into port or sinking in
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: one case, you know, three thousand vehicles on board or
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: multiple thousands of vehicles on board in one case, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you know, an entire ship going to the bottom of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the ocean press. I can't think it's good for the environment.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I can't think that's a happy thing. If, in fact,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: if this was anything else over than evs, you know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the sacred EV's, you'd imagine there'd be a great deal
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of complaint from the eco community about what a destructive
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and terrible thing this was. Instead, it's largely people largely
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: silent from that from an eco zone.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly, and all the fumes that have been released before
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: it sinks as it burns. And we've talked before about
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the EV and electric vehicle fires. Are the smaller vehicles,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: golf carts and scooters and the like, all the fires
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that have caused fatalities around the country. Again, not enough
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: focus on that, and look to expand on your point
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: about the silence. You know, the Los Angeleans, the Democrats
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: in California are typically very much into climate change and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: reducing emissions. But at the moment they're setting fire to cars.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That's how much they're worried about emissions.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It's not just any old cars either. They're seeing fire
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to cars that are known as waymos. These are driverless
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: vehicles that several US cities have and basically you dial
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: them up like an uber. They show up so our happy,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you know, liberation friendly destroyers in Los Angeles, they dialed
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: up the waymos just so they can have It's basically like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: bring the firewood over here, we need to we need
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to build fire. So they just got these poor little
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: weimo cards that are basically like if you remember the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: movie Waly, they dial up a bunch of walies, bring
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: them over to their neighborhood and set fire to them
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: just because they've shown up. It's incredibly destructive. I mean,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: as what these things are meant to obviously to reduce
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: traffic issues and reduced congestion as well as an issue
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles is self driving. They don't need to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: park anywhere, they just keep moving, and as a reward
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: for that nice community behavior, they get set fire too.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: Just charming.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Look, honestly, when it comes to energy climate change, renewable energy,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: all the rest of it, common sense goes out the window.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I reminded people of this stuff for pre election, that
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: we showed to the top of the program.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: We'll be leading the global green hydrogen revolution.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: A lot we know is that the green hydrogen sector
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: has an enormous potential in this country.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Only Labor has the plan to ensure that Australia is
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: part of and is leading that hydrogen revolution.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: They just say this stuff, Tim, They just think that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: they keep saying it it might be true. I mean
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I never even asked about it. Meanwhile, project after project
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: falls over. The ones that say they're going ahead are
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: too expensive, and our energy prices just go up and up.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not lying there, They're not lying, Chris. Green
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: hydrogen has potential. That is true, That has always been true.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: It'll be true ten years from now. It has potential.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: It will always have an eternal amount of potential. In
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the meantime, this is going to drive me nuts until
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the day I die. Is the craziness of living in
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a country with more energy resources than back practically any other,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: yet the most expensive energy costs. We just deny everything
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that exists around us. We turn our backs on cole
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: gas uranium, as you mentioned earlier in the previous interviews,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and instead we believe in.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: We won't use any of the stuff we've got, but
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: we're banking on the green hydrogen revolution. It is the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: stupidest nation on Earth at the moment. Thanks for joining us, Tim.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to put Tim Blair in charge.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: We need him as Energy and Climate Change Minister. Although
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: he might reject the second part of that title. Let's
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: just make him energy Minister. We've got to get to
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the break. On the other side, we're going to check
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in on those riots in Los Angeles as the politicians
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: letting rip with crazy talk of civil war and arrests
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and the rest of it. I'll catch up with Kristen
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Tate in the US, the National Guard has tried to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: disperse crowds during the fourth day of rioting in Los
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Angeles over Donald Trump's illegal immigrant crackdown. There have been
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: violent clashes between protesters and law enforcement officers. Yeah, there's
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: been some shocking stuff and it shows nice sign of
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: stopping and rather than tackling the riots, California's Democrat governa
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: is pointing the finger at the president.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: He's not for peacemaking.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: He's here for war.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: He wants a civil war on the streets of America,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: not just here. He's testing the boundaries by nationalizing the
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Federal Guards.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: As I put it to our US analyst, Christen Type,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: this took of civil war was just extraordinary ridiculous.
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: I mean Govin Newsom himself has turned his state into
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: a Third World, lawless Banana Republic.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: Rioters in that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: State right now, they've been encouraged by Democrat lawmakers like
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: Newsom to burn down their city with impunity. Rioters there
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: right now they are blocking freeways, trapping people on bridges.
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: They are throwing rocks at fast moving cars. They're lighting
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: cars on fire, targeting police officers. It is getting violent.
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: It reminds me of twenty twenty. And why are they
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: doing this rioting, Chris. They are rioting because Ice has
• 34:19
  Speaker 14: removed criminals who have no right to be in this country,
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: Criminals who should be locked away for the rest of
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: their lives in many cases, let alone deported. For example, yesterday,
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: DHS in one of these LA raids, arrested an a
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: legal immigrant who was a gang member who was involved
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: in a shooting at a high school graduation party that
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: ended up in two people being murdered, students, and then
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: they also arrested sex offenders, drug traffickers, so on, so on.
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: And these are the people who are being removed, hardened criminals.
• 34:51
  Speaker 14: Why are they rioting over these people being removed? We
• 34:54
  Speaker 14: have riding and acts of terrorism over federal official removing
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: criminals from American streets.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: One of the extraordinary things about this, the politicization of
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: these riots, of course, is the claims that this is
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: all unprecedented to call out the National Guard and the like.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: But as you say, we had riots in LA and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: other cities back in twenty twenty. I'm old enough to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: remember major riots in Los Angeles after the Rodney King
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: decision in the nineteen nineties. The National Guard was called out.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Then there's the Watts riots in LA in nine en sixties.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying this is pleasant. I'm not
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: saying we shouldn't take this seriously. But none of this
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: is unprecedented.
• 35:37
  Speaker 14: It's not unprecedented. However, in twenty twenty, something different happened there,
• 35:42
  Speaker 14: which was the riots were allowed to go on with impunity.
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: This went on for months in America, small businesses being
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: burned to the ground, cops being targeted, in some cases killed.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: It was really horrible.
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: And changed this country in ways that we are still
• 35:58
  Speaker 14: trying to comprehend.
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: Normal Americans are being mocked in their homes, cowering, unallowed
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: to go outside or send their children to school. So
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: we cannot let twenty twenty happen again today. These riots
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: need to be put down immediately with force, and I
• 36:12
  Speaker 14: think that's what Trump is planning to do and what
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: he is doing well.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Not only do we have the California and gavinmcgavin Newsom
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: talking about Trump trying to push for civil war, we
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: have Donald Trump saying that he should be arrested, that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom should be arrested.
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: Every look, his primarily primary crime is running for governor
• 36:30
  Speaker 15: because he's done such a bad job. What he's done
• 36:32
  Speaker 15: to that state is like what Biden did to this country,
• 36:36
  Speaker 15: and that's pretty bad. It's the wrong philosophy. Thousands, hundreds
• 36:43
  Speaker 15: of thousands of illegal immigrants, many of them prisoners. They
• 36:46
  Speaker 15: are taking up your health care, they're taking up your
• 36:48
  Speaker 15: space in schools, they're taking up your hospital and in
• 36:52
  Speaker 15: many cases they're criminals, and we have to do something
• 36:56
  Speaker 15: about it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: As for Gavin Newsom, he says, come at me. He
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: suggests that the president should send the's boarders, that Tom
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Homman down there to arrest him. Come after me, arrest me.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Let's just get it over with. Tough guy.
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: You know, I don't give a damn, but I care
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: about my community.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: I care about this community. The hell are they doing.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: These guys need to grow up, They need to stop,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and we need to push back.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: And I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: of bloviating is exhausting.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So Tom, arrest me. Let's go Christa. This is extraordinary.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: They have that sort of political hate while there's this
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: violence on the streets. Is there any sign that they'll
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: actually communicate together and then try and tackle this problem together.
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: I don't know about that, but you know, I think
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: right now the tension is high and the media is
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: kind of fanning the flames. The thought process is that
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: all of the chaos will be seen as Trump's fault.
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: But Trump no longer cares about political consequences. He's not
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: going to run again. This is his last term, so
• 37:57
  Speaker 14: he's being especially strong here. He's instilling law and order
• 38:00
  Speaker 14: regardless of the consequences. But I think that Gavin Newsom
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: is going to all of a sudden want to work
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: with the Trump administration. Absolutely not, especially since Newsom clearly
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: has political ambitions of his own that include the White
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: House in the future.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, an Australian reporter was shot with a rubber
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: bullets in the writing twenty four hours ago. Our government
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: is now going to make representations to your administration over this,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: so everybody's getting involved. We'll see what happens there, but
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on events and see what develops.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on a couple of
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: other things though, before we run out of time, and
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: one is this vision of Donald Trump tripping on his
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: way up the stairs the other day. Have a look good.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: This is he misses a step and collects himself. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: there's all sorts of lefties that are going nut saying
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that we should now be running this endlessly, along with
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the old footage of Joe Biden footing up tripping up
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the stairs, which as you know, we've seen many men times.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: But to say these two things are even remotely comparable
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: is laughable. Of course, Donald Trump had a trippy. He
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: grabbed himself and looked after himself. But to make the
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: comparison with Joe Biden, who was obviously mentally and physically feeble,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's a bit over the top, don't you.
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: Of course, this is complete nonsense. I mean a person's
• 39:21
  Speaker 14: health is a compilation of many, many events over over time,
• 39:25
  Speaker 14: and we saw over time Joe Biden have mental lapses.
• 39:29
  Speaker 14: He was tripping all the time, he couldn't remember things.
• 39:32
  Speaker 14: This was very consistent with Joe Biden. Donald Trump has
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: been extremely sharp, especially for his age. And yeah, he tripped. Okay,
• 39:40
  Speaker 14: we all trip once in a while. This is a
• 39:42
  Speaker 14: nothing burger.
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  Speaker 2: He said, nothing burger. Indeed, thanks for joining us, Kristen,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: thank you, Chris. Hell of a term that nothing burger.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Isn't it weird to get to a break? On the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: other side of that, we're gonna check it on United
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Nations again. This time they're trying to tell Queensland what
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: to do better as youth crime laws. Our panel will
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: involve Stephen Senate Tempo and Christy McSweeney joined me out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's bring in the panel now and Radio two double
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: see Breakfast host in Canberra. Stephen Sena Tempo joins us
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  Speaker 2: from the nation's capital, and Christy McSweeney from PR Council,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: she's the managing director there, joins us from Melbourne. Good
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  Speaker 2: to see you both. I want to show start off
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  Speaker 2: by showing you both something you might have seen much before.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And these are pictures of grit Toomberg, the climate activist,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: getting onto a plane. She's now on a plane and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: being deported, sent back to Sweden from Israel. No sailing,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: no pushbikes, she's burning fossil fuels being sent back there.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And good on the israelis Christy for sending her home
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  Speaker 2: quick smart.
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  Speaker 16: The poster girl of our times, Chris. I've heard her
• 40:56
  Speaker 16: ship described as the selfie ship, and this, of course
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  Speaker 16: is just endemic of a certain I'm not going to
• 41:04
  Speaker 16: say majority, but a certain element of her generation.
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  Speaker 2: She rose to fame.
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  Speaker 16: She's almost like the pop star the social media activist generation,
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  Speaker 16: and she can't stop. She might change her mind when
• 41:19
  Speaker 16: she turns thirty and talk about collaborating with people a
• 41:23
  Speaker 16: little bit better to change ideas. Who knows, but for
• 41:27
  Speaker 16: now that's what I kind of like to refer to her.
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  Speaker 2: As absolutely the look. It's just sickening, though, Stephen, because
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: she's consaid that she was being kidnapped, and to compare
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: the way that she was looked after by the Israelis
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and fed and now sent home on a plane. And
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: to talk about kidnapping while there are still hostages being alive,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: being held, some alive, some dead. It is just sickening.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And what really sticks in your crawl, although it doesn't
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: surprise us, is that they will refuse to actually watch
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  Speaker 2: the evidence presented to them of what Hamas did on
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Octi the seventh. Yeah, how dare they?
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  Speaker 17: You know, they've stolen my tugbow? But that, look, that
• 42:05
  Speaker 17: was absolutely appalling that you know that the Israelis were
• 42:08
  Speaker 17: right before you go, We're going to make you watch
• 42:11
  Speaker 17: this video. We're going to make you watch what really
• 42:13
  Speaker 17: happened on October seven so that you can get this
• 42:16
  Speaker 17: rubbish out of your head that you thought was going
• 42:19
  Speaker 17: on here. No, no, we don't want to see it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 17: We don't want to know the truth. We're not interested.
• 42:22
  Speaker 17: How dare you try to tell us what the truth is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, I thought the official Israeli government spokesperson summed
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: it up pretty well.
• 42:30
  Speaker 18: Have a look, Greta was not bringing age, she was
• 42:33
  Speaker 18: bringing herself, and she's not here for gars let's be
• 42:37
  Speaker 18: blunt about it. She's she's here for Gretta, you know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 18: Paul Gretta. She's been alienated, she's alienated half of the
• 42:42
  Speaker 18: world with the Crying Wolf, and now she's looking for
• 42:45
  Speaker 18: her next bandwagon. This is a This was a PR stunt.
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  Speaker 18: Sailing under the flag of moral vanity.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Sailing under the flag of moral vanity. What a lovely
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: line that is. It kind of leads me on to
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: the next time because the United Nations is very good
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: at sailing under the flag of United of vanity, of
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: moral vanity, and they've started lashing out against the Queensland government.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: The United Nations Youth branch has been trying to say
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that young Queenslanders aren't able to go out at night
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: or socialize for fear of falling victim to the Queensland
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: governments youth crime crackdown. Stephen, this is just more outrageous nonsense,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: isn't it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 17: I'm going to tip for the youth of Queensland. Don't
• 43:32
  Speaker 17: break the law and you'll be fine. And the UN,
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: I mean, why is the UN getting involved in this stuff?
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: I mean, look, I think the UN should be disbanded anyway,
• 43:41
  Speaker 17: and it's become a moribund organization.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: But fear income.
• 43:44
  Speaker 17: You know, we're afraid to go out because we might
• 43:46
  Speaker 17: get arrested if we break the law. That's how it happens.
• 43:49
  Speaker 17: You know, in a Western liberal democracy, if you break
• 43:52
  Speaker 17: the law, you can expect to be punished for it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: Look, no sympathy for anybody here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if Queenslanders are afraid to go out, Christy,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: and it's the same in other parts of the country.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: They might be afraid to go out because of the
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: crime that's on the streets rather than the law enforcement
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: officials trying to keep people safe.
• 44:13
  Speaker 16: Well exactly, and look, from time to time, youth wing organizations,
• 44:18
  Speaker 16: the young Liberals do it, young Labor does it. This
• 44:21
  Speaker 16: is the far left fringe, I think, probably too far
• 44:24
  Speaker 16: left to even fit into the Greens. Un youth wing
• 44:29
  Speaker 16: group of eighteen to twenty five year olds in Queensland
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  Speaker 16: who are lecturing the Queensland government on how to keep
• 44:35
  Speaker 16: Queensland safe and how to get Queensland tackling the youth
• 44:39
  Speaker 16: crime epidemic, which of course is in regional Queensland as
• 44:43
  Speaker 16: well as metropolitan Queensland. And they're asking questions like instead
• 44:48
  Speaker 16: of arresting someone, why don't we look at the reasons
• 44:50
  Speaker 16: of why they've done that. Well, here's another tip for
• 44:53
  Speaker 16: the youth wing of the United Nations in Queensland. The
• 44:55
  Speaker 16: Queensland government has actually also launched an inquiry into neglect
• 44:59
  Speaker 16: of children in care and part of those questions are
• 45:03
  Speaker 16: attacking the social policy leavers and trying to clean that
• 45:06
  Speaker 16: mess up as well. So sensationalist, fringe left youth wing
• 45:11
  Speaker 16: politics here on display. I think as for what the
• 45:14
  Speaker 16: actual UN thinks about it, who knows, they're probably coming
• 45:17
  Speaker 16: over the top sometime soon as well get involved.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: And who cares what they think of it? I thought
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it was actually a bit of a political gift for
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the Premier, David Chris a fully because he was able
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to say, well, in Queensland, we'll decide what we do here.
• 45:32
  Speaker 19: Here is we have seen again the UN trying to
• 45:36
  Speaker 19: intervene in Queensland laws. And I say to the UN,
• 45:41
  Speaker 19: whether or not it's the youth arm or the main arm, we.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Are our own laws.
• 45:46
  Speaker 19: We will make our laws for Queenslanders.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that gets ahead nod right around the country,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: let alone in Queensland. Let me go to another story
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: out today with a survey showing that seven out of
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: ten Aussies have thrown SICKI a fake the SICKI in
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the last year. That's an extraordinary number. Seven out of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: ten Aussies faking a SICKI in the last year. Now,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: you must be dealing with a lot of companies through
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: pr Council. Christy, does this shock you? Will not surprise you?
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  Speaker 16: Well, you know it doesn't surprise me at all. I
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: mean sometimes I'm jealous here. I am having established a
• 46:22
  Speaker 16: business for ten years, employing people. Sometimes I'd like to
• 46:26
  Speaker 16: wake up and call is sick to myself, but I
• 46:28
  Speaker 16: can't because I am part of the ninety seven percent
• 46:31
  Speaker 16: of Australians and working in small business in Australia creating
• 46:35
  Speaker 16: economic productivity. And on a day when we're talking about
• 46:38
  Speaker 16: productivity of Australia, let's just not forget these figures here
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: of seven out of ten Australians calling in sick for
• 46:46
  Speaker 16: non sick purposes. Of course, we all know terms of
• 46:51
  Speaker 16: the Blue flu, which is the union mass sickies on
• 46:55
  Speaker 16: construction sites. I mean, these things are ripe across a
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: number of industries. I don't want to single out building
• 47:01
  Speaker 16: and construction alone, but it is used as an industrial
• 47:06
  Speaker 16: tactic as well. Let's not forget when we talk about
• 47:08
  Speaker 16: this productivity question.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing number. I'm soldiering on through manflu as
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: we speak. It's an amazing stat to Stephen Christy makes
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: a very important point there, that is that people in
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: small business they can't do this no matter what's going on.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: They have to turn up and soldier on or there's
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: no money. There's some people here definitely taking a lend
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: of their fellow Australians, no doubt about it.
• 47:35
  Speaker 17: But having said that, seven out of ten admit to
• 47:37
  Speaker 17: taking faking a SICKI the other three are liars. But no, no,
• 47:41
  Speaker 17: but fit even though there are certain ones of it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 17: I can't take a sicky because there's this thing called
• 47:46
  Speaker 17: dead air.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: And I know that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 17: You know, Christy over the last couple of weeks has
• 47:50
  Speaker 17: had to call in sick to herself a few times
• 47:52
  Speaker 17: and hasn't been able to get away with it. People
• 47:56
  Speaker 17: who are working from home, how do they how do
• 47:59
  Speaker 17: they call in sick with all its work from home stuff?
• 48:02
  Speaker 17: Now I never understood that. Do you ring it and
• 48:05
  Speaker 17: say I'm on the couch but I'm not getting off
• 48:08
  Speaker 17: the couch.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm leaven the PJ bottoms and top
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: on today, I don't know. Thanks for joining us, Steven
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: and Christy. I really appreciate it. We'll catch you next week. Time.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Just a bit of time to squeeze in some of
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: your feedback from last night, showing what we had to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: say about Greta Tumberg, and one viewer says she's lucky
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Israel got her before hummus. Indeed, someone else says kidnapped.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: The Bibas family were kidnapped and murdered, with so many others,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: get a grip, Greta. And one more with a viewer saying,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Paul Greta Tomberg, she's no longer relevant, but he's desperately
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: trying to recapture the fame of her childhood. Go back
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: to schooling, get some qualifications, and most radically, get a job. Yes,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: it's an old fashioned jibe, but get a job. I'll
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: see tomorrow night