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Credlin | 12 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on sky Ingins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. Steve Price sitting in
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Speaker 2: for Peter Creblin all this week and don't forget to
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Speaker 2: join us on Friday at the regular time of six
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Speaker 2: pm Australian Eastern Standard Time. Here's what's coming up on
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Speaker 2: the program tonight. Union thuggery at its worst, with a
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Speaker 2: building union leader going after Australia's biggest football code, the AFL,
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Speaker 2: because they don't like the work background of the umpire's boss.
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Speaker 2: It's truly disturbing. We will talk with the opposition's Michaulia
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Speaker 2: Cash about that. More on the looming climate wars set
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Speaker 2: to again dominate an election campaign, with Peter Dutton today
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Speaker 2: reiterating there'll be no twenty thirty target under him. The
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Speaker 2: Australian's Graham Lloyd on what that actually means for our
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Speaker 2: commitment to the Paris Climate Change Agreement.
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Speaker 3: And I'll get our panel's.
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Speaker 2: View on what a guilty verdict for the US President
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's son Hunter means for the president cdential election
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Speaker 2: coming up in November. Plus what is happening in Southwest
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Speaker 2: Sydney to the Muslim vote. As we head toward our
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Speaker 2: own federal election within the year, and it's Wednesday, so
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Speaker 2: get set for some meaning of words action with the
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Speaker 2: wonderful kel Richards. But first up tonight, how does union
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Speaker 2: leader John Setka think for one moment it's acceptable to
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Speaker 2: act like a bully boy threatening a sports leader because
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Speaker 2: he and his thuggish union mates didn't like what that
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Speaker 2: leader did to them in a previous job. Who else
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Speaker 2: in Australia would get away with this sort of threatening
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Speaker 2: behavior other than Setka, one of the most reviled union
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Speaker 2: leaders in the history of Australia. Setka loves to be
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Speaker 2: portrayed as this powerful union overlord defending the rights of
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Speaker 2: the downtrodden workers all being preyed upon by heartless capitalist
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Speaker 2: bosses ripping them off. That's Setka's stick in truth. He
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Speaker 2: heads a union that has benefited from its support of
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Speaker 2: the Victorian Labor Party by law loocking up major government
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Speaker 2: infrastructure projects for his union members, where it was revealed
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Speaker 2: recently that stop Go sign holders were earning over two
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year because they were in that union.
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Speaker 2: Those projects, by the way, are almost without exception over
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Speaker 2: budget and are running late and sendy Victoria broke. So
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Speaker 2: what's set Corrup to this time? Well, you won't believe it.
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Speaker 2: According to the Australian newspaper today, great work, Setka is
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Speaker 2: going to use union muscle to attack the Australian Football League.
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Speaker 2: Why well, the AFL has the high to apparently employ
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Speaker 2: as its head of umpiring a bloat by the name
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Speaker 2: of Stephen McBurnie. Most, if not all AFL fans would
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Speaker 2: never have heard of this bloke mcbernie, which makes Secker's
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Speaker 2: attack on him even more bizarre and threatening. Now, McBurnie
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Speaker 2: once ran the Coalition Government's Australian Building and Construction Commission,
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Speaker 2: or the ABCC as it was commonly known, a body
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Speaker 2: charged with investigating union corruption activity in the building game.
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Speaker 3: Now, this body that.
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Speaker 2: Helped curtail out of control and often coercive activity by units,
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Speaker 2: including Secker's branch of the CFMMEU, was of course axed
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Speaker 2: by the new Albanesi government as a sop to the
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Speaker 2: union donations to labor. It's one of the first things
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albaneze he did. So what has the charming mister
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Speaker 2: Seker decided to do as payback for ABCC investigations into
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Speaker 2: his union that cost them millions of dollars when it
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Speaker 2: was operating well, and it's incredible in this day and
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Speaker 2: age and get away with this stuff. He's threatened the
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Speaker 2: AFL will have ghost slows on any project his union
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Speaker 2: is involved in until it sacks their head of umpiring.
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Speaker 2: It's blatant blackmail. It's a thuggish threat and it's something.
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Speaker 2: If Albanesi and his union loving mates hadn't canceled, the
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Speaker 2: ABCC would have been investigated. But as usual with this
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Speaker 2: union boss, the threat comes with a bunch of foul
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Speaker 2: mouth bluster. Setkar told The Australian. We have an obligation
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Speaker 2: to pursue anti union, anti worker effers like him, and
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Speaker 2: we will until the end of the earth. This is
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Speaker 2: going to cost the AFL a lot of effing money
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Speaker 2: and I hope it's worth it. Projects without our full
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Speaker 2: cooperation are going to be an efing misery for them.
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Speaker 2: They will regret the day they ever employed him. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's out and our union thuggery right there on display.
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Speaker 2: But it got worse. This is the real world. This
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Speaker 2: is Setka again. This is the real world. We go
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Speaker 2: after our enemies and he was our number one enemy
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Speaker 2: and we will pursue him to the ends of the earth.
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Speaker 2: Now I can't wait to hear a response from Tony Burke,
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Speaker 2: the Industry Relations Minister, as to whether he thinks that
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Speaker 2: is acceptable behavior. But I won't hold my breath. The
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Speaker 2: AFL in our statement and good on them. They say
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Speaker 2: they will support mcbernie in his role. By the way,
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Speaker 2: as a senior umpire, McBurnie was in charge of four
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Speaker 2: hundred grams, including four Grand finals and numpire. Now, I
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Speaker 2: guess I should and't be surprised labor scrapped the ABCC
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Speaker 2: or at the behavior of Setka. His history is infamous
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Speaker 2: on a picket line of a construction site being built
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Speaker 2: by the construction giant Grocon. I'll remind you that Setka
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Speaker 2: was fined for punching the windscreen of a van driven
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Speaker 2: by a Grocon manager and telling that manager that he
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Speaker 2: Setga hoped he would die of cancer and threatening to
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Speaker 2: come after him. And in twenty seventeen, SECA again issued
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Speaker 2: a warning to ABCC inspectors that he would reveal their
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Speaker 2: home addresses.
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Speaker 3: Adding their kids.
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Speaker 2: Their kids will be ashamed of their parents when we
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Speaker 2: expose all these ABCC inspectors. As they say, a leopard
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Speaker 2: doesn't change its spots. Let's said to camera now and
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Speaker 2: catch up with tonight's political headlines with Sky News political
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Speaker 2: reporter cam Redden.
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Speaker 4: Good Evening, the opposition warns sticking with Australia's climate targets
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Speaker 4: will mount pain on families and send businesses broke.
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Speaker 5: I'm not going to sign up to an arrangement that
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Speaker 5: destroys our economy and sends families and small businesses into bankruptcy.
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Speaker 4: As both leaders prepare for a climate contest come election time,
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Speaker 4: Peter Darton argues abandoning a twenty thirty target will improve
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Speaker 4: his appeal to inner city voters.
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Speaker 5: I think we can win those seats back. We have
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Speaker 5: to for the sake of our country, because I don't
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Speaker 5: believe Australonge can afford three more years of the Alberanesi government.
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Speaker 4: Wow, the Prime Minister hitting back during a visit to
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Speaker 4: the site of the new Western Sydney Airport.
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Speaker 6: It's a bit like someone getting on a plane at
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Speaker 6: the new airport on one of those mystery flights.
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Speaker 7: Well, you don't know where you're going to go.
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Speaker 4: Treasurer Jim Chalmers remains confident of achieving a soft economic
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Speaker 4: landing and avoiding a recession.
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Speaker 5: Really the thing that keeps me up at night in
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Speaker 5: the way that it will keep some of you up
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Speaker 5: at night, as well as just trying to make sure
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Speaker 5: that we can get inflation down without smashing the economy.
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Speaker 4: The latest jobs figures out tomorrow will be key to
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Speaker 4: guiding the Reserve Bank's next interest rate decision, and.
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Speaker 6: We expect that by the end of this year the
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Speaker 6: unemployment rate will be around four point six to four
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Speaker 6: point seven.
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Speaker 4: A Senate inquiry has demanded consulting firm PwC name and
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Speaker 4: shame its staff involved in a breach of sensitive government material.
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Speaker 4: The inquiry was launched after a former PwC partner shared
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Speaker 4: confidential tax information with colleagues, who then used their knowledge
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Speaker 4: to help clients sidestep new laws. Its final report also
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Speaker 4: calls on the finance departments to keep a central register
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Speaker 4: so it can record any conflict of interest breaches.
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Speaker 8: Instead of training our own public service, we just hived
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Speaker 8: off the work to these multinational conglomerates.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that, cam plenty to get
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Speaker 2: stuck in tonight, Let's bring in our panel joining me.
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Speaker 2: Scott New's host and National affairs editor from the Daily Telegraph,
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Speaker 2: James Morrow and c your report at Caroline Marcus. James
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Speaker 2: to you first, this stuff from John Setka using aggressive
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Speaker 2: language and threats to a bloke who used to head
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Speaker 2: the ABCC just because he's now employed by the AFL.
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Speaker 2: I presume if the IFL got rid of this umpire
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Speaker 2: and he got a job somewhere else sector would be
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Speaker 2: threatening that firm as well. I'm going to be fascinated.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Michaulia Cash about this shortly, but I'm
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Speaker 2: going to be fascinated, James, what the very normally verbal
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke has to say about mister Secca.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: No, Look, I saw mister Setka's comments and I thought
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Speaker 9: that they were, you know, pretty pretty out there. I mean,
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Speaker 9: this idea that they are going to pursue every company
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Speaker 9: that employs this guy. This goes ahead of umpires, right,
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Speaker 9: you know, so he's the head of the umpires in
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Speaker 9: the AFL. Like this has nothing to do with the
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Speaker 9: building contracts anything like that. This is I think just
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Speaker 9: a disgraceful abuse by unionists and the union movements. But
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Speaker 9: I think also, you know, let's not forget this is
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Speaker 9: what has been empowered by this government. Right, this is
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Speaker 9: where this government is taking things. It is taking things
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Speaker 9: back away from you know, individual contracts, is taking it
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Speaker 9: towards less flexibility in the labor marget, it's taking it
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Speaker 9: to this sort of frankly thuggish behavior by union goons
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Speaker 9: and I just don't think Australian should stand for it.
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Speaker 3: Caroline.
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Speaker 2: This is the same union, of course, headed by Seka
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Speaker 2: where it was revealed a few weeks ago. And I'm
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Speaker 2: sure you'll remember this that if you work in construction
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Speaker 2: in Victoria and your hold to stop Go sign you're
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Speaker 2: getting paid over two hundred thousand dollars a year.
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Speaker 10: Clearly we are in the wrong profession here, I think, Steve.
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Speaker 10: But no, look there's been no shortage of sort of
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Speaker 10: bad behavior from the unionists and from mister Sako himself.
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Speaker 10: So I mean it's just kind of more of the same, isn't.
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Speaker 3: It It is.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Southwest Sydney in this idea that the
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Speaker 2: Muslim vote down there maybe on a bit of shaky
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Speaker 2: ground for labor. There's been a lot of disquie in
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Speaker 2: seats like Blackslan and Watson. We talk about Tony Burkie,
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Speaker 2: holds one of those seats, Jason Clear holds the other one,
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Speaker 2: and they're arguing there's a lack of action by labor
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Speaker 2: when it comes to Gaza. Caroline, you must almost fall
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Speaker 2: off your chair when you read that. I mean, goodness,
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Speaker 2: gracious me, I mean a lack of lack of government
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Speaker 2: concern about Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Give me a break.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think if for some of these people, I
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Speaker 10: think anything short of just calling the conflict a genocide,
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Speaker 10: which is clearly absurd, or just buying into that sort
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Speaker 10: of extreme language. Pro hamasked, language is falling short in
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Speaker 10: their books. But it's really concerning that this is happening
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Speaker 10: because the government has and the Prime Minister in particular,
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Speaker 10: has been so weak on calling out anti Semitism, and
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Speaker 10: this pressure from a candidate in a seat that they
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Speaker 10: might consider at risk will put even more pressure on
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Speaker 10: the government to kind of speak out of both sides
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Speaker 10: of their mouth as they have been doing on this
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Speaker 10: issue and kind of courting that vote. I mean, the
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Speaker 10: ministers that you mentioned in particular, Jason Clair and Tony Burke,
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Speaker 10: have been particularly woeful when it comes to the language
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Speaker 10: that they've used around this conflict and the response at
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Speaker 10: home mister Claire, the Education Minister, was so slow to
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Speaker 10: call out those pro Palestinian encampments that that are happening
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Speaker 10: on university campuses, and at one point even tried to
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Speaker 10: pretend that from the River to the Sea didn't mean
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Speaker 10: exactly what we all know it to mean, which is genocide.
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Speaker 10: That's genocide. Meanwhile, Tony Burke has been tap dancing around
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Speaker 10: the term genocide and dog whistling to some of these
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Speaker 10: more extreme extreme positions since the conflict began. So, look,
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Speaker 10: it's concerning because I think it will it will lead
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Speaker 10: to the government being even more weak on this issue
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Speaker 10: than it is already.
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Speaker 2: James, I mean James, the government is just absolutely terrified
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Speaker 2: that they're going to lose votes to the Greens. And
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Speaker 2: so this is why you never get a really solid
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Speaker 2: labor senior frontbencher who says, no, no, I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to stand for this. These protests are going to be
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Speaker 2: stopped at this stuff about rivet of the sea got
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Speaker 2: to end. You don't hear it, because they're worried about
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Speaker 2: losing most of the Greens.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, Look, I mean, only a very precious few
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Speaker 9: ministers in this government have been strong on this I'd
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Speaker 9: say Bill Shorten has been pretty strong on this to
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Speaker 9: his credit. But you know, I think there's another aspect
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Speaker 9: of this that we need to explore here, because it's
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Speaker 9: not just the Greens.
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Speaker 3: The threat here is.
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Speaker 9: Also that independent candidate stand just like Dae Lee stood
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Speaker 9: in Fowler and you know, scooped up that constituency when
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Speaker 9: that was supposed to have been Christina Kannely's after the
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Speaker 9: last election. Now, what's fascinating to me is that this
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Speaker 9: is a funny sort of end result of multiculturalism, which
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Speaker 9: of course Labor has been pushing for decades now. And
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Speaker 9: now suddenly, you know, after decades of telling people, well,
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Speaker 9: come to Australia, but you know, still stay in touch
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Speaker 9: with the home issues, vote the home issues back there
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Speaker 9: wherever you came from. You know, now they're really getting
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Speaker 9: bitten by it. And I think that there's a real
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Speaker 9: piece here, a larger piece around civics and unity as
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Speaker 9: a nation and how we you know, make migrants into Australians.
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Speaker 9: That also needs to be explored because I think that
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Speaker 9: this incident puts this, you know, into real relief. But
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Speaker 9: also you know, this is not going to be the
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Speaker 9: last time we have, right now we have the Albanese
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Speaker 9: government looking to court Lee Kang the premiere and you know,
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Speaker 9: court Chinese Australian votes because of the relationships with China.
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Speaker 9: This is this is interesting stuff and we need to
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Speaker 9: be you know, I think, really focusing on Australian interests
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Speaker 9: in all of this sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: And Caroline, we go to explain to the rest of
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Speaker 2: Australia that Southwest Sydney is very different to the rest
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Speaker 2: of Australia and some of the language that's out of
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Speaker 2: some of the mosques in that part of Sydney, some
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Speaker 2: of the language from the Islamic leaders in Southwestern Sydney
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Speaker 2: has just been horrendous.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, and the lack of action from the government
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Speaker 10: and authorities on those in particular is of concern. I mean,
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Speaker 10: we've seen Jews being compared to all sorts of derogatory things,
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Speaker 10: and I would say that some of that speech has
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Speaker 10: been bordering on incitement to violence, if not incitement itself.
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Speaker 10: So really concerning. But look, these are largely a lot
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Speaker 10: of them are have huge Muslim populations, some as high
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Speaker 10: as thirty percent or thereabouts. In Jason Clair's seat, I
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Speaker 10: think it's about twenty seven percent in Tony Burke's seat.
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Speaker 10: So they have a very real chance of influencing an
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Speaker 10: election because I mean those seats held on margins between
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Speaker 10: ten and fifteen percent as it is, So if all
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Speaker 10: those people back a candidate that's taking a much stronger
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Speaker 10: position on the conflict in Gaza and anti Israel position,
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Speaker 10: then that could be a very real threat for the
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Speaker 10: government in those seats.
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Speaker 2: James, just before we go, cam Redman was talking about
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Speaker 2: that PwC report that dropped this afternoon, and there's a
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Speaker 2: demand now that the PwC name and shame these partners
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Speaker 2: were involved in this very complex tax scandal last year.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the least we should expect is to
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Speaker 2: actually know who did it, isn't it well?
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Speaker 9: And I think I think that is the least that
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Speaker 9: we can't expect. But the other thing, Steve, we need
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Speaker 9: to really talk about is why is the government spending
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Speaker 9: all of this money on really expensive consultancies, you know,
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Speaker 9: like your PWC's, like your deloyed Placer McKinsey's. You go
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Speaker 9: down to Canberra and they've all got big shiny glass
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Speaker 9: headquarters down there. They're scooping mass amounts of money out
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Speaker 9: of the taxpayer. You know, I mean, I'm not saying
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Speaker 9: that we need a much larger Australian public of us,
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Speaker 9: just the opposite. I'd love to see us go full
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Speaker 9: Javier Malay, but that's not going to happen, at least
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Speaker 9: not this week. But you know, at the same time,
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Speaker 9: these guys are getting paid an absolute fortune to essentially
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Speaker 9: take the government's watch off its risk, look at it
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Speaker 9: and tell them what time it is. It is just,
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Speaker 9: you know, disgraceful. This is the real disgrace. Far more
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Speaker 9: than you know. They shared some of that tax information
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Speaker 9: with their other clients, as bad as that is. Let
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Speaker 9: us have a moratorium on all of this huge consultancy spending.
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Speaker 3: Please, yeah, one hundred percent, Caroline.
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Speaker 2: Just briefly, Jared Hine, well known NRL superstar, tried to
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Speaker 2: get into the NFL.
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Speaker 3: He's now out of Gaio.
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Speaker 2: We saw vision on Chris Kenny Show of him leaving
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Speaker 2: prison this afternoon.
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Speaker 3: Do you think there's going to be a fourth trial?
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Speaker 10: Look, I mean it's not out of the question, Steve,
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Speaker 10: and the court today has left it up to the
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Speaker 10: Director of Public Prosecutions here in New South Wales to
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Speaker 10: make that decision, but I think it would be remarkable
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Speaker 10: went to a fourth trial. I mean, he's obviously gone
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Speaker 10: through three trials already. The first ended in a hung jury.
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Speaker 10: Then there were two that where the jury found him
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Speaker 10: guilty of these sexual assault charges. But on those both
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Speaker 10: of those appeal. For both of those convictions they were quashed.
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Speaker 10: I mean, to put the complainant through a fourth trial,
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Speaker 10: to put Jared Haynes himself seems like it would be
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Speaker 10: a new kind of punishment in itself, and I just
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Speaker 10: don't know that anyone really has really has the appetite
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Speaker 10: for that. But I guess it remains to be seen
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Speaker 10: what the DPP decides. For now he's free. He had
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Speaker 10: another eleven months to go on his three year minimum sentence,
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Speaker 10: so I think there'll be a few celebrations in the
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Speaker 10: Haines household tonight.
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Speaker 2: It's been a remarkable story. James and Caroline, thank you
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Speaker 2: very much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: I mean that PwC thing really annoys me. We really
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Speaker 2: do need to get those names if we possibly can.
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Speaker 2: I just think that the public needs to actually know now.
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Speaker 2: I spoke at the beginning of the program about the
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Speaker 2: shameful demands today from the CFMAU and their bully boy.
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Speaker 3: Boss John Setka.
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Speaker 2: Now he's calling for the sacking of the AFL head
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Speaker 2: of umpiring guy by the name of Stephen mcburne. Now
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Speaker 2: Stephen McBurney was the boss of the ABCC, which was
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Speaker 2: the body which was charged with investigating unions and any
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Speaker 2: corruption that might exist. Now, to it's credit, the AFL
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Speaker 2: is standing behind McBurnie. I showed you the expletive laden
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Speaker 2: ransetor gave to the Australian newspaper and then later today
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Speaker 2: somehow claimed that this does not amount to threats.
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Speaker 3: Have a look, I want not.
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Speaker 1: Make it any threat. So we're talking about exposing people.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people like McBurnie can't attack workers and their
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Speaker 1: conditions and be so undemocratic they make the North Korea
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Speaker 1: look like a democracy and then just right off into
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Speaker 1: the sunset like nothing's ever happened.
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Speaker 3: I mean there is going to be consequently what a height.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically blackmail and thuggery. For more on this,
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Speaker 2: I'd like to chat with the Shadow Minister for Employment
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Speaker 2: Workplace Relations, Senator Macaulia Cash. Senator welcome, a question straight up,
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Speaker 2: what's industrial regulations Minister Tony Burke said about this today.
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Speaker 11: Well, that's a very good question, Steve, not a lot.
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Speaker 11: But let's have also a look at what the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 11: mister Alberansi, well on what about what the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 11: mister Alberanzi didn't say. What a weak and insipid prime
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Speaker 11: minister that he cannot condemn the bullying, the thuggery and
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Speaker 11: the intimidation of John Sitka in relation to mister mcbernie
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Speaker 11: and the threats made against the AFL. I mean, seriously,
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Speaker 11: this Prime Minister of Australia needs to start standing up
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Speaker 11: for the thousands and thousands of Australians that are employed
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Speaker 11: by our third largest industry, the construction sector. But Steve
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Speaker 11: will he I'm going to put money on the fact
20:04
Speaker 11: that the answers know to the tune of four point
20:08
Speaker 11: three million dollars that mister Albin Easley happily took in
20:13
Speaker 11: the lead up to the last election from Lo and
20:16
Speaker 11: behold the CFM EU. So, Mister Burke, nothing but worse
20:20
Speaker 11: than that, the weak and insipid Prime Minister of Australia
20:26
Speaker 11: failing today to condemn the bullying, the thuggery and the
20:30
Speaker 11: intimidation of mister Sedka, and of.
20:35
Speaker 2: Course Woseeka has got form. I mentioned at the beginning
20:37
Speaker 2: of the program during a picket of a grow Con
20:41
Speaker 2: building operation which you'd remember very well, he walked up
20:45
Speaker 2: to that a van driving through He's punched on the
20:48
Speaker 2: windscreen and said to the manager from gro Con, I
20:52
Speaker 2: hope you die of cancer. He threatened to go and
20:55
Speaker 2: find ABCC addresses and give them out to the public.
21:00
Speaker 2: Stuggish makes who work in that union know where these
21:02
Speaker 2: people live? I mean seriously. And how many weeks did
21:06
Speaker 2: it take after the Albanize gunment was elected senator for
21:09
Speaker 2: them to shut down the ABCC well a month.
21:14
Speaker 11: Well, it was one of their first acts as a government.
21:17
Speaker 11: And this is the problem. People are criticizing John Setka,
21:20
Speaker 11: and they should, but let's put the blame squarely, Steve
21:24
Speaker 11: where it lies with mister Albinizi and mister Burke. They
21:29
Speaker 11: are the ones who have licensed John Setka to indulge
21:32
Speaker 11: in this type of behavior because as a gift to
21:35
Speaker 11: the CFMU for the four point three million dollars given
21:39
Speaker 11: to the Australian Labor Party in the lead up to
21:42
Speaker 11: the twenty twenty two election, they abolished the tough cop
21:45
Speaker 11: on the beat. And mister Setka, he can criticize Steve
21:49
Speaker 11: McBurnie all he likes, But as Steve mcbernie once said,
21:53
Speaker 11: it is not for Steve mcbernie to judge the unions.
21:57
Speaker 11: It was Steve mcbernie to bring the evidence to the
22:01
Speaker 11: court and for the court to assess the evidence and
22:04
Speaker 11: to then judge them in accordance with the law. And
22:07
Speaker 11: guess what, Steve, in over ninety percent of cases, the
22:12
Speaker 11: courts found that the unions had contravened the law, and
22:17
Speaker 11: Steve McBurney was successful in securing in excess of sixteen
22:21
Speaker 11: million dollars in fines. But do you know what he
22:24
Speaker 11: also did that mister Setkin never talks about. He secured
22:29
Speaker 11: in excess of five million dollars in wages and entitlements
22:34
Speaker 11: for over eight thousand employees.
22:37
Speaker 3: So guess what.
22:38
Speaker 11: He didn't just go after unions. He also went after
22:41
Speaker 11: employers that had done the wrong thing. But ultimately it
22:45
Speaker 11: was the courts who found that the evidence that mister
22:48
Speaker 11: McBurnie presented justified a penalty. So quite frankly, I don't
22:54
Speaker 11: know what mister Setka is going on about.
22:58
Speaker 2: Well, you'd be happy the IFL has said, well, we're
23:00
Speaker 2: not going to shift him out of this job. This blokes,
23:03
Speaker 2: you know you're an AFL fan. He's unpied over four hundred,
23:07
Speaker 2: four hundred and one games of AFL and four Grand Finals.
23:10
Speaker 2: This guy is the best qualified person to have the job.
23:14
Speaker 11: Exact and that is exactly right. And shame on mister
23:17
Speaker 11: alban Easy for actually putting in place to the rules
23:20
Speaker 11: that allow mister Setka to run riot in the building
23:24
Speaker 11: and construction industry, I mean the Master Builders Association today
23:28
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four step they estimate that because of
23:31
Speaker 11: the actions of the unions, it is around a twenty
23:34
Speaker 11: to twenty five percent additional cost borne by the Australian
23:39
Speaker 11: taxpayer to develop schools, hospitals and roads. And what does
23:45
Speaker 11: mister Alberanezy say nothing because he is beholden to this union.
23:50
Speaker 11: But ultimately the Australian people do get to make a choice,
23:54
Speaker 11: and they're going to have to make that choice in
23:56
Speaker 11: less than eleven months time. And the choice is between
24:00
Speaker 11: Peter Dutton. You know where he stands, you know what
24:04
Speaker 11: he believes in, and he will stand up for Australians
24:07
Speaker 11: every day of the week and he will not be
24:10
Speaker 11: intimidated by mister Setka and his threats or ornister who,
24:17
Speaker 11: when confronted with the evidence of clear bullying, thuggery and
24:22
Speaker 11: intimidation today right out of the mouth of mister Setka,
24:26
Speaker 11: had nothing to say. Can I tell you the Australian people,
24:30
Speaker 11: they can make a choice.
24:31
Speaker 3: They can say goodbye.
24:32
Speaker 11: To mister Albanezi and his weak and insipid government and
24:37
Speaker 11: welcome in Peter Dutton and for once in the last
24:41
Speaker 11: two years, let's have a government that stands up and
24:45
Speaker 11: puts the interests of Australians first, not the interests of
24:50
Speaker 11: the unions who provide the ALP with millions and millions
24:55
Speaker 11: of dollars, but at a cost to all Australian Steve,
24:58
Speaker 11: because ultimately that's who pays the Australian people.
25:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said every infrastructure project in Melbourne that the
25:07
Speaker 2: CFMU works on his over budget and out of time.
25:09
Speaker 2: So you know there's your evidence right there, Senator Cash,
25:13
Speaker 2: thanks as usual or catching up with you, Thanks very
25:15
Speaker 2: much for your time. Now after the break, plenty of
25:17
Speaker 2: panda diplomacy coming up apparently, But will we actually see
25:21
Speaker 2: the Albaneze government get tough on the visiting Chinese Premiere
25:25
Speaker 2: and how labor is effectively imposing in arms in bargo
25:28
Speaker 2: On Israel. Have more on that coming up next with
25:31
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan. Welcome back to Steve Price in for Peter
25:37
Speaker 2: Crevlin all this week. Now, it's all systems go. I
25:40
Speaker 2: know the Prime Minister yesterday announced the much and participated
25:44
Speaker 2: arrival of the Chinese Premier League. He's coming this weekend
25:47
Speaker 2: with the expectation that he will announce the extension of
25:51
Speaker 2: a loan of two pandas at the Adelaide Zoo. Adelaide
25:54
Speaker 2: will be very excited about that. Now, I have been
25:57
Speaker 2: to Adelaide many times and never gone to see the Pandas.
25:59
Speaker 3: I make sure I do it now.
26:01
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure no one minds the Pandas staying. The
26:03
Speaker 2: real focus, we think needs to be on much more
26:07
Speaker 2: pressing issues like China's growing hostility. But the question is
26:11
Speaker 2: is the Prime Minister up to raising those issues to
26:14
Speaker 2: discuss this and more, Let's bring in foreign Australian Greg Sheridan, Greg,
26:18
Speaker 2: good to see you again. It's got to be more
26:20
Speaker 2: than just standards, doesn't it.
26:24
Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, This is a slightly dangerous visit to Australia.
26:28
Speaker 8: I mean China's strategic interests and our strategic interests are
26:32
Speaker 8: in contradiction, except in so far as we trade with
26:36
Speaker 8: each other. Everything else is in contradiction. They want to
26:38
Speaker 8: boot the United States out of the region. We want
26:40
Speaker 8: the United States to stay in the region. They want
26:43
Speaker 8: to kill August. We want August to go ahead. They
26:46
Speaker 8: keep harassing, threatening, and injuring our service people in international
26:51
Speaker 8: waters and international airspace around the region. We want them
26:54
Speaker 8: to stop. They keep practicing cyber espionage against us, We
26:59
Speaker 8: want them to stay. They keep trying to interfere in
27:01
Speaker 8: our political system, We want them to stop. Now very
27:04
Speaker 8: little of that. They've got at least one of our
27:06
Speaker 8: citizens in captivity. They're completely unjustified hostage diplomacy that they practice. Now,
27:13
Speaker 8: very little of that. We'll get any public airing during
27:16
Speaker 8: this visit. Having said all that, it's okay to have
27:19
Speaker 8: the premier come here, that's all right, but we shouldn't
27:22
Speaker 8: get carried away with photo ops and diplomatic nonsense. You know,
27:30
Speaker 8: obviously we've got it. There's no point having the visitor
27:32
Speaker 8: unless you're polite to him and treat him properly. So
27:35
Speaker 8: I don't want the Prime Minister to be rude to him,
27:37
Speaker 8: but I do want him to raise these matters. I
27:39
Speaker 8: want him to raise all of the things I mentioned
27:41
Speaker 8: privately and at least some of them publicly, especially the
27:45
Speaker 8: treatment of our military personnel and our citizen who is
27:48
Speaker 8: there on ridiculous charges.
27:52
Speaker 3: How powerful is Premierly?
27:53
Speaker 2: I mean, does he if Anthony Albinezi says, Look, I'm
27:57
Speaker 2: not going to put up with you potentially during and
28:00
Speaker 2: in fact in during Australian servicemen when they're just going
28:03
Speaker 2: about their work in international waters. I want you to
28:06
Speaker 2: go back until Jijing pinged and I'm not happy about it.
28:10
Speaker 2: A is that what the Prime Minister does? And B
28:14
Speaker 2: does g take any notice of Premier League?
28:19
Speaker 8: Yeah, so they're good and unanswerable questions, Steve. One of
28:23
Speaker 8: the weaknesses of Australia is that because under both parties
28:27
Speaker 8: we've done nothing on defense now for fifteen years and
28:31
Speaker 8: it's been worse than ever with Albanezi. We're now destroying
28:34
Speaker 8: existing capabilities and you know funding is static or in
28:40
Speaker 8: real terms declining after inflation, and we are eating away
28:44
Speaker 8: at what few capabilities we have. We are kind of
28:47
Speaker 8: in the category of the mouse that roared. You know,
28:50
Speaker 8: if we send the premiere away with a flea in
28:53
Speaker 8: his ear, well that's about the only trouble he's likely
28:55
Speaker 8: to get from us. You know, we're Rocky's best friend.
28:59
Speaker 8: We got a big heavy weight friend called the United States,
29:02
Speaker 8: but we don't carry any punch ourselves. China under s
29:08
Speaker 8: Jinping is a one man dictatorship, and that is always
29:13
Speaker 8: a brittle situation, and Hijinping doesn't get good quality information,
29:18
Speaker 8: he doesn't get people telling him things he doesn't like
29:21
Speaker 8: to hear, and so on. Nonetheless, the premier is the
29:23
Speaker 8: second most important person in China after the president. So
29:30
Speaker 8: it is a difficulty that, you know, merely communicating with
29:35
Speaker 8: Chinese officials doesn't get into the Chinese system in the
29:38
Speaker 8: way it used to, because all power is centralized around
29:42
Speaker 8: the president like a medieval emperor, you know, So it's
29:45
Speaker 8: the emperor's court that counts, not the institutions of the
29:48
Speaker 8: Chinese state. But having said all that, Lee is the premier.
29:52
Speaker 8: He is the second most important person in China, and
29:55
Speaker 8: you certainly want to make your representations to him, you know,
29:59
Speaker 8: so that he knows what you think, and so that
30:01
Speaker 8: you have at least kept faith with your basic values
30:04
Speaker 8: and interests.
30:06
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Gaza. This US s back proposal for
30:10
Speaker 2: a cease fire. I guess it's best described as perhaps
30:13
Speaker 2: being on shaky ground, Israel Palestine at odds over a
30:17
Speaker 2: whole bunch of amendments. The Prime Minister was asked about
30:20
Speaker 2: the motion on radio this morning.
30:21
Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say.
30:23
Speaker 6: This war needs to stop, and a ceasefire proposal put
30:30
Speaker 6: forward by the United States and now adopted by the
30:33
Speaker 6: UN Security Council is positive leadership from the United States.
30:38
Speaker 6: We need a long term solution and we know that
30:42
Speaker 6: that requires two states, Israel and Palestine.
30:47
Speaker 2: He doesn't inspire me that he believes this is going
30:49
Speaker 2: to get up. What about you, Greg, what do you
30:51
Speaker 2: make of it?
30:53
Speaker 8: Well, I think they've got to have a ceasefire soon.
30:57
Speaker 8: I don't think the Prime minister, our prime minister talk
31:00
Speaker 8: sense on this stuff anymore. I mean, you know, the
31:03
Speaker 8: whole world wants a two state solution, but that's further
31:05
Speaker 8: away than our nuclear submarines. You know, It's just it's
31:10
Speaker 8: a million miles away. So, as I understand it, Israel
31:14
Speaker 8: has basically accepted the ceasefire proposal and has been offering
31:18
Speaker 8: a cease fire for months and months and months, the
31:21
Speaker 8: US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln has made it abundantly
31:24
Speaker 8: clear that the party which is refusing the ceasefire is Hamas,
31:28
Speaker 8: because Hamas wants this conflict to continue. It doesn't mind
31:33
Speaker 8: that Palestinians are getting killed. It's perfectly happy about that.
31:35
Speaker 8: There's a very big story, brilliant story in the Wall
31:38
Speaker 8: Street Journal today that has correspondence from the leader of
31:44
Speaker 8: Hamas saying how beneficial it is to have these Palestinian
31:48
Speaker 8: casualties because this besmirches Israel's name internationally. Now, Israel, can't
31:56
Speaker 8: you stop fighting until it gets its hostages. But I
32:00
Speaker 8: do think Netanyahu is rightly criticized for not having a
32:03
Speaker 8: coherent plan for Gaza after the fighting stops. But it's
32:09
Speaker 8: been the case now for months and months and months
32:12
Speaker 8: that Hamas could stop this fighting tomorrow just by releasing
32:15
Speaker 8: thirty hostages, even if it kept the other ninety odd,
32:19
Speaker 8: although we don't know how many of them are alive.
32:23
Speaker 8: It could get a long cease fire, a month's long
32:25
Speaker 8: cease fire now, which would then build pressure on Israel
32:29
Speaker 8: to have a more permanent cease fire. By releasing thirty hostages.
32:33
Speaker 8: But you've got to conclude that it wants this war
32:37
Speaker 8: to continue and it is enjoying the death and destruction
32:41
Speaker 8: that is being inflicted on Palestinian civilians. That's what Hamas wants.
32:47
Speaker 3: What a horrible thing to contemplate.
32:49
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, All is a pleasure, Thank you very much
32:51
Speaker 2: for your time tonight. Now there's been a lot of
32:53
Speaker 2: speculation that Australia could be forced out of the Paris
32:55
Speaker 2: Agreement if a future coalition government scraps labors target to
32:59
Speaker 2: reduce them by forty three percent.
33:01
Speaker 3: By twenty thirty.
33:03
Speaker 2: Now, Peter Dutton's made it very clear he doesn't think
33:05
Speaker 2: the governor will get there, and so why would he
33:07
Speaker 2: sign up to that. However, The Australian's Environment editor, Graham
33:10
Speaker 2: Lloyd thinks that's very unlikely now. He wrote today that
33:14
Speaker 2: money talks and no one walks in the Paris Agreement.
33:18
Speaker 2: He makes the observation that if countries were excised from
33:22
Speaker 2: the Paris Agreement for not meeting high expectations, it would
33:25
Speaker 2: be a gathering of none. He puts it so well,
33:28
Speaker 2: after all, global carbon emissions continued going up, despite all
33:31
Speaker 2: the money being thrown at it, Andrew Hyman, the man
33:34
Speaker 2: who drafted the Paris Agreement, seems to agree, saying it'd
33:38
Speaker 2: be unprecedented for the coalition to adopt a lower twenty
33:41
Speaker 2: thirty target, but they wouldn't be ejected from the agreement
33:44
Speaker 2: over it. Joining me is The Australian's Environment editor, Graham Lloyd.
33:48
Speaker 2: So no one's getting booted out of the Paris Agreement.
33:52
Speaker 2: I loved what you wrote today and that makes absolute
33:56
Speaker 2: common sense.
33:56
Speaker 3: Graham, Yes.
34:00
Speaker 7: Good.
34:01
Speaker 12: The thing about the Paris Agreement, it's a new United
34:05
Speaker 12: Nations body, and it's all about having everybody in the
34:08
Speaker 12: same tent, so they can really sort of push each
34:10
Speaker 12: other around and tell them what to do. The minute
34:13
Speaker 12: someone's outside of the tent, they're really under no pressure whatsoever.
34:17
Speaker 12: So the thing that people need to understand about the
34:21
Speaker 12: Paris Agreement is that it's a voluntary agreement. If you
34:26
Speaker 12: like Barack Obama, the US President, he negotiated it. He
34:31
Speaker 12: couldn't negotiate anything that would put any legal responsibilities on
34:35
Speaker 12: the United States because Congress simply wouldn't accept it. So
34:39
Speaker 12: what we ended up with is an agreement where people
34:42
Speaker 12: are encouraged to play along with no penalties. There is
34:47
Speaker 12: an expectation that countries will every five years revise their
34:53
Speaker 12: plans on what they're going to do, but there's no
34:57
Speaker 12: legal requirement that they continue to increase those So if
35:02
Speaker 12: Peter dunn't were to not increase Australia's ambition, there would
35:05
Speaker 12: be a lot of fury and harsh words, but it's
35:09
Speaker 12: most unlikely we would be thrown out. In fact impossible,
35:14
Speaker 12: and there's no legal sanction that could be placed upon us.
35:20
Speaker 2: When you get into the detail of this, and we
35:22
Speaker 2: don't want to get too complicated, but the twenty thirty
35:26
Speaker 2: ambition is do and right that there's no way that
35:30
Speaker 2: Australia is going to get to that point.
35:35
Speaker 12: Well, certainly the evidence is that delivering the things that
35:40
Speaker 12: are needed to meet that target are proving to be
35:43
Speaker 12: more difficult than was expected. And of course the power
35:47
Speaker 12: sector is only one part of this. There has to
35:50
Speaker 12: be reforms in industry, in land management and other things
35:55
Speaker 12: to try and make it work. And things happen, and
36:00
Speaker 12: they definitely happen a lot more slowly than those who
36:04
Speaker 12: want it most would like. So Australia is not alone
36:08
Speaker 12: in this. Pretty much every country in the world is
36:12
Speaker 12: struggling to meet the targets they have set, and as
36:15
Speaker 12: the UN has said, even the targets that have been
36:17
Speaker 12: set are not sufficient to meet the ambition that everybody
36:22
Speaker 12: claims to hold. So it's a real world mess, and
36:27
Speaker 12: if you like, Peter Dunton is calling it out for
36:30
Speaker 12: that and saying we need a different plan to try
36:34
Speaker 12: and get there, and we need more time to achieve it.
36:38
Speaker 12: Whether he has the recipe for that remains to be seen,
36:41
Speaker 12: but certainly the progress to date suggests that Labour's existing
36:46
Speaker 12: target is not going to be met.
36:50
Speaker 3: Well.
36:50
Speaker 2: With your finally, your vast experience. I mean it's not
36:53
Speaker 2: just an omissions target in twenty thirty, which after all
36:56
Speaker 2: was just six years away. It's also eighty two percent
36:59
Speaker 2: renew by twenty thirty. As I drive around Australia and
37:03
Speaker 2: you're in Cops Harbor and we all get out and
37:06
Speaker 2: around the country as often as we can, I can't
37:09
Speaker 2: see that happening.
37:13
Speaker 9: No.
37:13
Speaker 3: There.
37:13
Speaker 12: Certainly, all the plans are on the drawing boards, and
37:16
Speaker 12: I think what's planned for the New England and what
37:20
Speaker 12: have you in New South Wales is an astonishing scale
37:24
Speaker 12: of what's proposed to go in there. But it all
37:28
Speaker 12: relies on the construction of transmission lines and other things
37:33
Speaker 12: that are proving much more difficult and much more expensive.
37:36
Speaker 12: And the part of that is because everyone in the
37:38
Speaker 12: world is trying to do the same thing at the
37:40
Speaker 12: same time, so you have cost inflation, and then you
37:44
Speaker 12: have huge expectations about how these things are going to perform,
37:48
Speaker 12: and often they don't perform as expected.
37:52
Speaker 2: And I guess the pressure on the raw materials that
37:55
Speaker 2: we're not making largely, which you know, I'm talking about
37:58
Speaker 2: solar panels and wind turbine. I mean, I'm sure countries
38:01
Speaker 2: are lining up so we'll pay more. We'll pay more
38:03
Speaker 2: given to us given to us.
38:07
Speaker 12: That's certainly the experience. So we have a huge geostrategic
38:11
Speaker 12: contest going on with China effectively trying to corner the
38:15
Speaker 12: market in the manufacture of these things. And that's the
38:19
Speaker 12: great benefit to countries that are buying them because the
38:22
Speaker 12: price is low. But they're also doing that with all
38:25
Speaker 12: the materials and rare earths and metals that are required
38:28
Speaker 12: for this green transition. So there's a much bigger game
38:33
Speaker 12: at play that extends well beyond what Australia is likely
38:38
Speaker 12: to do to have the power lights go on when
38:42
Speaker 12: you flick the switch.
38:46
Speaker 3: Great to catch up with your Graham. Thanks a lot.
38:47
Speaker 2: That's Graham. Lloyd there from the Australian. Now coming up
38:50
Speaker 2: after the break. You won't believe how much Victorians now
38:52
Speaker 2: we're talking about new energy here and renewables. You will
38:55
Speaker 2: not believe how much Victorians will have to fork out
38:59
Speaker 2: to landowners near the new transmission towers at being built.
39:03
Speaker 3: It's truly staggering. More on that soon.
39:09
Speaker 2: Welcome back Steve Price in for Peter and Allis, bring
39:11
Speaker 2: in our panel. Shadow Environment Minister Jonathan Dunningham and senior
39:15
Speaker 2: fellow of the Menzies Research sent a columnus with The
39:17
Speaker 2: Australian Nick Cator. Welcome, gentlemen. Great to see you both.
39:22
Speaker 2: I must say, Nick Cata, I much preferred your Budapest
39:27
Speaker 2: background last week than where you are currently.
39:30
Speaker 3: Where are you Clacton on Sea? Where the hell's that?
39:33
Speaker 3: Come on?
39:34
Speaker 7: Steve, Clacton on Sea. Everybody knows Clacton is on the
39:37
Speaker 7: east coast of Britain. It's about an hour and a
39:39
Speaker 7: half by train from London. But the importance of Clacton
39:42
Speaker 7: on Sea of courses. This is where Nigel Farage is
39:46
Speaker 7: standing for the Reform Party and all the vibe I
39:48
Speaker 7: pick up here looks like he's going to win.
39:53
Speaker 5: Well.
39:53
Speaker 2: He's had a milkshake thrown on Adam and now Cement,
39:56
Speaker 2: so he's getting plenty of headlines in the UK.
40:00
Speaker 3: What are the polls saying?
40:02
Speaker 2: Is Farage really going to play a major part here
40:07
Speaker 2: or is he just going to be a disruptor.
40:10
Speaker 7: He's going to be a disruptor, I think. I mean,
40:13
Speaker 7: in the national polling they are neck and neck with
40:15
Speaker 7: the Tories of around fourteen or fifteen percent of the vote,
40:18
Speaker 7: So basically the Conservative vote looks like it's being split.
40:22
Speaker 7: The way it works, of course, is that it's very
40:24
Speaker 7: hard for him to get actual MPs up. I mean,
40:28
Speaker 7: I think I'm fairly confident in saying he's a strong
40:31
Speaker 7: place to win himself. There are maybe three or four
40:35
Speaker 7: other seats Barnsley, Boston, Hartlepool, a few more you can
40:39
Speaker 7: pick around the country that are likely. So it looks
40:41
Speaker 7: like he will split the Tory vote and end up
40:44
Speaker 7: with very few MPs in himself. But of course he's
40:47
Speaker 7: arrived as a force, and what he's done is to
40:50
Speaker 7: show that, you know, ordinary conservative conservative photos, if I
40:55
Speaker 7: can call them that and not happy with the way
40:57
Speaker 7: things have been going under Rischie Schunac's and the ones
41:00
Speaker 7: before that. They want to return to more traditional values
41:03
Speaker 7: and to exercising things like Brexit and immigration.
41:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, immigration is going to be the big issue, Jonathan.
41:12
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Victorian government. They've responded to this
41:16
Speaker 2: backlash over the rollout of wind turbines and transmission lines.
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Speaker 2: The AGE reported this week that they are considering forty
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars payments to compensate landowners for transmission tower ey
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Speaker 2: saws it's called, and under that proposal, a property owner
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Speaker 2: can seek a payment if they can prove they've had
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Speaker 2: a significant loss of visual amenity, which won't be hard
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Speaker 2: to prove, I wouldn't think, but this one really got me, Jonathan.
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Speaker 2: If their land is within four hundred meters of the
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Speaker 2: project in regions of two hundred meters in urban areas,
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Speaker 2: this is going to cost a fortune. And then there's
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Speaker 2: also a payment for transmission lines going across your land
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Speaker 2: that will last for twenty five years and be indexed
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Speaker 2: to inflation.
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Speaker 13: It's a good thing to see it's other people's money,
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Speaker 13: because you can just splash that around.
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Speaker 3: As we've seen here.
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Speaker 13: I mean, it's a scene to hear reports of these payments.
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Speaker 13: So the idea that on top of the tens of
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Speaker 13: billions of dollars that these transmission networks are going to
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Speaker 13: cost to link these new renewable, new butty generation assets
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Speaker 13: to the grid is just oye ordering, to say the least.
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Speaker 13: What worries me though, is there will be a bureaucracy,
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Speaker 13: a team of people that are going to go out
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Speaker 13: and see whether your visual amenity has been harmed in
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Speaker 13: any way and whether you're eligible for the payment of
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Speaker 13: your lengthy process. On top of that, you've got all
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Speaker 13: the compulsory acquisition issues. The whole thing is a face
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Speaker 13: and this is why this whole renewables transition and we
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Speaker 13: will stop at nothing to get there is just such
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Speaker 13: a joke.
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Speaker 12: And this was.
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Speaker 13: Demonstrated again in Victoria where you have just Cinderell and saying, well,
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Speaker 13: we will destroy a protected wetland to build a seaport
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Speaker 13: to build the offshore wind farm. So again, well, trash
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Speaker 13: the environment to save the planet. It is just madness, hypocrisy,
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Speaker 13: and it will not work.
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Speaker 2: Nick, I'd love that job of going around and speaking
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Speaker 2: to the great farmers of Australia and saying mate, I reckon,
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Speaker 2: you're going to be impacted. Here, here's forty thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: and don't forget you can get eight thousand per kilometer
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Speaker 2: if these lines go through your property. Good on your mate.
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Speaker 2: Then you can stay at the local pub, mix with
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Speaker 2: the farmers overnight, go on to the next area.
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Speaker 3: That'd be the job. I put my hand up for
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Speaker 3: that job.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know my impression, Steve traveling around the country
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Speaker 7: places like New England and Victoria, I think very few
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Speaker 7: farmers are going to take it at forty thousand. I mean,
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Speaker 7: this is a permanent impult on the land. There's no
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Speaker 7: guarantee what happens to that land afterwards. There's a danger
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Speaker 7: of course from bushfris if those things collapse and the
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Speaker 7: community feeling roundabout is so strong, I don't know that
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Speaker 7: there'll be too many farmers keen to take the money.
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Speaker 7: I could be wrong, but it just goes to show
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Speaker 7: this thing a whole lot more expensive than Chris Bowen
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Speaker 7: ever told us, not that he ever gave us a
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Speaker 7: proper costing. And we're going to be paying for this,
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Speaker 7: you know, from now to Kingdom come and our electricity bills.
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Speaker 2: You worried you're in a country with nuclear power powering
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Speaker 2: the thing that's charging your phone. Are you concerned that
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Speaker 2: you're going to somehow get contaminated Nick while you're there?
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Speaker 7: No, not at all.
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Speaker 3: I should tell you.
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Speaker 7: If I could turn the camera, I could point to it.
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Speaker 7: Just off the there's a sea over there, and just
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Speaker 7: off in the horizon is I can see two dozen
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Speaker 7: wind turbines in the water. Great, big things. Great I
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Speaker 7: saw on the horizon there. Not one of them is turning.
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Speaker 7: So how they're getting their electricity here in Britain I
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Speaker 7: don't know. But look, I don't think people are really
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Speaker 7: concerned about nuclear power in the way they once were,
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Speaker 7: and right across Europe now it's seen as the way
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Speaker 7: forward if we have to get to that net zero goal.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Clacton Bon Sea doesn't look all at sunny either.
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Speaker 2: What about these animal rye it's activists, these morons that
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Speaker 2: have vandalized the official portrait of King Jarles Nick cover
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Speaker 2: it with an animated character Wallace from Wallace and Grommet.
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Speaker 2: The group was protesting alleged animal cruelty at forty five
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Speaker 2: farms certisfied by the Royal Society for the prevention of
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Speaker 2: cruelty to animals. These people do themselves no favors. Who's
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Speaker 2: going to say, yeah, I'll support that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look it's atrocious, Steve. I saw that painting actually
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Speaker 7: at the weekend. It's a lovely painting and you know,
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Speaker 7: in a very trusting British way, there's no particular security
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Speaker 7: around it, or wasn't up until this point. You know,
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Speaker 7: we just don't expect people to behave like this. But
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Speaker 7: this is the interesting thing, isn't it. They're not actually
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Speaker 7: out to win over converts like this, so just out
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Speaker 7: to virtue signal, to make a noise, to just be
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Speaker 7: you know there and showing how virtuous they are. They
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Speaker 7: really not. Rather, the rest of us weren't on board
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Speaker 7: because that wouldn't allow them to have their exclusively virtuous position.
45:58
Speaker 7: But I just think this is you know, it breaks
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Speaker 7: your heart really when you look at a painting like
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Speaker 7: that and you see how much effort has gone into
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Speaker 7: that by the painter, indeed by the man who sat
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Speaker 7: for it, and these I don't know, throw the book
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Speaker 7: at them, catch them, put them in prison forever.
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Speaker 2: I think, Well, Jonathan, I mean, you've had the same
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Speaker 2: issues in tazzy with statues and we had King George
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Speaker 2: the fifth statue in melbournevalized this week. The head of
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Speaker 2: the statue cut off, the plints splattered with red paint.
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Speaker 2: These people are just lunatics, aren't they.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, of course, they asked Seve if they as
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Speaker 13: Nick said, there's no outcome, there's no different policy taken
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Speaker 13: by relevant governments. The world doesn't change, and they see
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Speaker 13: it as a righted passage. Some of these people as well,
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Speaker 13: they like being martyrd I mean the number of times
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Speaker 13: certain Green activists in Tasmania, for example, of march outside
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Speaker 13: the magistrates Corps here in Hobart and held a press
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Speaker 13: conference to talk about how wonderful it is. And it's
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Speaker 13: a badge of honor to have had the law book
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Speaker 13: thrown at them. It is just part of their playbook now, sadly.
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Speaker 13: But the reality is we're desecrating national icons, parts of
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Speaker 13: our history, I mean, defacing the portrait of our monarchies,
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Speaker 13: something that is next level. But again, at the end
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Speaker 13: of the day, what does their cause get out of it?
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Speaker 3: Nothing?
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Speaker 13: Is the world a better place for it? No, But
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Speaker 13: you've got police officers and courts dealing with these clowns
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Speaker 13: that would be better off dealing with domestic violence perpetrators
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Speaker 13: and other thugs in our community.
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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Nick, thank you very much, coming up as it
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Speaker 2: was on a Wednesday, Kel Richards, welcome back Wednesday night
47:44
Speaker 2: means Keurl Richards, Kel, great to see you again, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Lots of emails for us to get into good evening.
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Speaker 3: Now, Kel.
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Speaker 2: This comes from Steve and he says, I'm writing to
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Speaker 2: an iconic wordsmith about an iconic word, hoping you can
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Speaker 2: answer my iconic question. Who can I blow for the
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Speaker 2: current ambiguitous use of iconic?
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Speaker 14: I can actually tell you who you can blame. You
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Speaker 14: can blame Newsweek magazine. When the word came into English
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Speaker 14: and the sixteen hundreds, it meant the portrait of a saint.
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Speaker 14: But then in nineteen seventy six the journalists at Newsweek
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Speaker 14: dreamt up this idea of calling an important and prominent
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Speaker 14: person iconic. They did it, So blame the journalists at
48:23
Speaker 14: Newsweek they dreamt it up.
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Speaker 2: See there's some modern word history for us. Now, another emailer,
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Speaker 2: Roz says BI monthly, Kel, can we please help settle this?
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Speaker 2: Does that mean bi weekly every second week or twice
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Speaker 2: every week.
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Speaker 14: The answer to you is, no one knows. So I
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Speaker 14: have some really helpful advice. Never ever use these words
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Speaker 14: because no one knows. The Oxford says, for example, that
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Speaker 14: bi weekly means twice a week, but bi annual means
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Speaker 14: every second year, and bimonthly either means twice a month
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Speaker 14: or every second month. So if the Oxford is confused,
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Speaker 14: everyone's confused. So really good vice from Uncle Kel. Never
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Speaker 14: never use the cursor by words.
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Speaker 3: You'll never see it in a column written by me ever. Again.
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Speaker 2: It genocide, very serious word. What does genocide mean that
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Speaker 2: pops up all the time these days?
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Speaker 14: Sadly coined in nineteen forty four to describe what happened
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Speaker 14: to the Jewish people in the Second World War under
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Speaker 14: the Nazis. It means the deliberate murder of a whole
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Speaker 14: race or group of people. So that when the protesters
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Speaker 14: say that you know, Israel Is guilty of genocide in Gaza,
49:31
Speaker 14: they are clearly wrong. Israel Is they're fighting to find
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Speaker 14: and free hostages, not to kill a whole race of
49:39
Speaker 14: people or a whole group of people. Now, whether the
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Speaker 14: protesters are lying or whether they're ignorant, I just don't know,
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Speaker 14: but it's a very young, wrong use of the.
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Speaker 2: Word perfectly exclaimed Kel, thank you all, speak to you
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Speaker 2: next week. Richard's coming up next James McPherson presenting The
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Speaker 2: Bolt Report.