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UFO File Drop · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Writer, Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, Chris Matthew is good to see your brother.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back on. We are in the
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Speaker 2: strangest the strangest times, so looking forward to the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, what a time to be alive. Bro. Our
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Speaker 1: government finally decided to do right by the people and
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Speaker 1: release the UFO files, and this comes shortly after the
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Speaker 1: release of the infamous Epstein files. Now, I know you've
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Speaker 1: been looking through the files today, so have I. I
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Speaker 1: can say that most of what I've seen so far
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Speaker 1: is a bit underwhelming, to say the least. Lots of
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Speaker 1: dido among a few nuggets of interesting and just like
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Speaker 1: with the Epstein files, it's a convoluted mess with a
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Speaker 1: lot of nonsense mixed in with the really interesting stuff.
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Speaker 1: But I guess we'll see as time goes on what's
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Speaker 1: going to be released, what we can get our hands on.
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Speaker 1: Before we get your thoughts on everything today, I know
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Speaker 1: you're finishing up your new documentary, Psychic Agent the Gate Program.
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Speaker 1: How's that going, brother?
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Speaker 2: It's going really well. It'll be submitted here very soon,
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Speaker 2: so be on the lookout for that. Trailer will be
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Speaker 2: followed by that, so hopefully by the end of the
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Speaker 2: month that will be released on Amazon Prime and Apple
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Speaker 2: TV Plus. So I've been working on that for like
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Speaker 2: eight months now, so it's really exciting when you finally
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Speaker 2: finish a project like that. So I'm really excited. Today
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Speaker 2: is my first day back of shows. So thanks for
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Speaker 2: having me on, man, I really appreciate it. And Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I was just talking with Ryan Gable last night about
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Speaker 2: this because I was trying to figure out the whole
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Speaker 2: pastor situation of rumblings mostly on Twitter x that pastors
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Speaker 2: had been briefed by the government on UFOs and UAPs
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Speaker 2: and extra trash and aliens and all that, and I
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Speaker 2: was like, I watched one of the first videos, the
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Speaker 2: main one that kind of came out that was claiming
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Speaker 2: that he was, you know, briefed by quote unquote government
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Speaker 2: officials on what they're going to do to prepare for
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Speaker 2: the documents that are getting ready.
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Speaker 3: To be released.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I started digging into that a little bit, and
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Speaker 2: I found it so ridiculously convoluted and ridiculous. Some people
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Speaker 2: were saying that it was a meeting, some people were
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Speaker 2: saying that it wasn't a meeting. Some people were saying
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Speaker 2: that it was a government meeting. The others said that
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Speaker 2: it wasn't a government meeting, and then Tony Merkle gets
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Speaker 2: on his podcast and is like, this wasn't a real
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Speaker 2: government meeting. This was ran by church intelligence agents that's
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Speaker 2: been collecting this information over the period of decade, and
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Speaker 2: that it was going around briefing all these pastors and
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Speaker 2: all of these people on what's to come, and that
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Speaker 2: it's this whole thing that is demons and that it's
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Speaker 2: all that, And I'm like, I was putting it out.
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Speaker 1: On a show. Yeah, yeah, I'm not to check that out.
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Speaker 2: So I was. I was getting to the point where
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even know what is actually happened.
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Speaker 2: And then I seen Rep. Paula Luna from Florida last
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Speaker 2: night post on Twitter x saying that the files were
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Speaker 2: going to be released today. And I talked to Ryan
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Speaker 2: Gable on the phone last night and I was like, Hey,
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Speaker 2: what do you think is going on with all this stuff?
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Speaker 2: Like what's the deal with all these pastors and everything.
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Speaker 2: And we kind of came to the conclusion that there
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Speaker 2: was something going on because we also had Cash Betel
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Speaker 2: saying that they were in the process of releasing the files.
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Speaker 2: We had Dave Grush on someone's podcasting that within the
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Speaker 2: next thirty to forty days or thirty to sixty days
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Speaker 2: or whatever, the files were going to be released. He
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Speaker 2: wasn't going to put an exact date on it, but
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Speaker 2: everyone was kind of in lockstep that the files were
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Speaker 2: getting ready to be released. You know, you had Paula
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Speaker 2: Luna last night saying that today they were going to
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Speaker 2: be released. So whenever I woke up early this morning,
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Speaker 2: I had received that text message from Ryan. He said,
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Speaker 2: by the time you're reading this, you'll know that the
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Speaker 2: files had been released.
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Speaker 1: Right, and this is just a first release, correct, They'll
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Speaker 1: be releasing files over the weeks and months.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a round. I roughly one hundred and forty
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Speaker 2: to one hundred and forty seven files were released on
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Speaker 2: the Department of War website. I scanned through every single
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Speaker 2: one of them. Most of them are just documents.
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Speaker 3: They're very little.
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Speaker 2: The pictures that are in there are on the front
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Speaker 2: of the website, so you want to see nothing but
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Speaker 2: pictures of you know, pilots taking photos of you know
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Speaker 2: in the like the tic Tac where it's got the
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Speaker 2: crosshairs and all that, and a strange anomalo scraft.
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Speaker 3: In the background.
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Speaker 2: You don't really need to do much investigation on the.
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Speaker 1: Site, mostly military photos and videos that you're going to
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Speaker 1: see there.
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Speaker 2: But I wanted to play this video really quickly from
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Speaker 2: this pastor that was on Twitter talking about how he
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Speaker 2: had received information that the files that were going to
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Speaker 2: be released was going to completely destroy Christianity and destroy
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Speaker 2: and prove that Jesus never existed and that the entire
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Speaker 2: New Testament was like a fabrication, and I just wanted
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Speaker 2: to listen to that really quickly.
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Speaker 4: The only handful of pastors and invited to come to
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Speaker 4: a private meet with a group of men who are
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Speaker 4: connected with the intelligence world that are believers but are
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Speaker 4: still have very high security clearance. These are legit, true
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Speaker 4: men of God that are still connected to Washington and
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Speaker 4: even this current administration and all branches of military. And
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Speaker 4: they literally told us. We had a sitting congressman, a
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Speaker 4: very well known congressman from Missouri. He was he called
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Speaker 4: into that meeting as well, that was just for pastors,
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Speaker 4: and this is what he said speakerphone. This sitting powerful
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Speaker 4: member of Congress said, are the pastors listening to me?
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Speaker 4: I'm getting cheeks right now because this happened to me.
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Speaker 4: He said, are the pastors in the room listening to me?
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Speaker 4: And I said, yes, sir, we are here. And he said,
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Speaker 4: listen to me. Go and tell the church they are
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Speaker 4: not ready for what is coming. The narrative that is coming.
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Speaker 4: What they are going to say is going to be
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Speaker 4: like nothing you can even imagine. They are preparing to
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Speaker 4: tell us that they are from another dimension, that they
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Speaker 4: are our creator, and that these beings, these aliens or
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Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them, they were the ones
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Speaker 4: that seated us here. There is no such thing as God.
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Speaker 4: Jesus was invented by them. The Bible was invented by them.
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Speaker 4: And begin to just say, listen, prepare the people for
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Speaker 4: what is coming because they're not ready.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty much it. And yep, that's not what we
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Speaker 2: got right. I mean, listening to that, you think that
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Speaker 2: it's going to be super explosive, right, like we're going
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Speaker 2: to get the details that's going to come out, and
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Speaker 2: it's going to wreck everything, is going to wreck all
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Speaker 2: these institutions. The church is going to be completely destroyed
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Speaker 2: and annihilated. But then he walked back a lot of
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Speaker 2: those statements. But if you listen to that, he clearly
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Speaker 2: says that this congress person told him this directly. Now,
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Speaker 2: he released another video later saying that that's not what
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Speaker 2: the congress person said, and that was his own opinion.
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Speaker 2: Interjected his own opinion in there. But that doesn't really
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Speaker 2: make any sense. Like you either got to believe that
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Speaker 2: these people are stupid or that they have the memory
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Speaker 2: of a fish. Like Chris, if someone came to me
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Speaker 2: and was like, Hey, I want you to be a
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Speaker 2: part of this meeting. We're going to disclose some information
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Speaker 2: to you that we want you to know to get
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Speaker 2: out to your audience or whatever, you can be damn
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Speaker 2: sure that I'm going to remember every single thing that
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Speaker 2: was said. I'm going to know who set up the meetia,
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Speaker 2: i want to know every single person that was there.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to know the name of the person and
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Speaker 2: the agency that had to do with this entire thing.
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Speaker 2: There's not going to be any confusion. But for some reason,
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Speaker 2: there's nothing but confusion. Everybody was saying different things that
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Speaker 2: they heard from different places, and at this point, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I don't even think this meeting even.
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Speaker 1: Happened, right, We're being fed to polarizing narratives as usual,
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Speaker 1: your coke or pepsi of high impact events to choose from.
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Speaker 1: It's either aliens or demons, and this is the narrative
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Speaker 1: that we're given by even within the government, within the
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Speaker 1: higher levels of the military, there seems to be a
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Speaker 1: split in belief systems that they're portraying. Jay de Vance
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Speaker 1: even says he believes aliens or demons. So those are
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Speaker 1: the two narratives that were being fed that people have
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Speaker 1: to choose from. And I think, just like any other
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Speaker 1: intelligence operation, they're going to have these theatrical events and
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Speaker 1: people inserted and people given bad information, real believers given
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Speaker 1: bad information so that they can go and spread to
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Speaker 1: their audience what someone told them who they believe was credible.
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Speaker 1: So it's a common intelligence tactic with all of these
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Speaker 1: events that we've been put through. But it'll be really
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Speaker 1: interesting to see how it plays out because those two
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Speaker 1: narratives don't allow for anything in between that that it
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Speaker 1: could be, including government psychological operations.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know, things get labeled by religious people
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Speaker 2: that they don't understand as demons and satan like all
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Speaker 2: the time. Literally, that's been the thing of the church
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Speaker 2: and religious institutions from the very beginning. It's all something
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Speaker 2: happened that I don't understand. It's of the devil that's
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Speaker 2: in the place for the longest amount of time, and
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Speaker 2: if anything, that's where that's the direction that I thought
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Speaker 2: that it was going to head. That if because we've
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Speaker 2: been primed for this for in the coming years. Even
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Speaker 2: luel Azando a couple of years back was talking about
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Speaker 2: how you believe that the aliens were demons, right, And
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Speaker 2: that's been the on topic narrative that's been perpetuated for
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Speaker 2: the past I don't know, like at least all of
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Speaker 2: this year has been that these entities are fallen angels.
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Speaker 3: There, they're they're.
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Speaker 2: Fallen angel technology, that they're demons and and all this.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, well, that seems like the
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Speaker 2: logical conclusion if a meeting did exist between these preachers
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Speaker 2: and pastors and this of these big time churches and
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Speaker 2: these Christian influencers and preacher influencers, that's what I would
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Speaker 2: imagine was being told to them, right, because that keeps
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Speaker 2: the narrative going, right. If it was, you know, it
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Speaker 2: was either one of two things. It was that these
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Speaker 2: are angels, right, that they're godly, that they're angelic, which
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Speaker 2: doesn't make too much sense. I mean, I guess you
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Speaker 2: could kind of pass it off as that to a
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Speaker 2: certain degree. But the main thing that you're gonna want
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Speaker 2: to do is have them believe that it's demons and
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Speaker 2: that that it's of Satan and that it's of the devil,
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Speaker 2: because that's the logical step in the logical conclusion that
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Speaker 2: a majority of people in religious circles already believe. Right,
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Speaker 2: It's like the pulp in Wood story. They didn't really
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Speaker 2: have to convince Paul that, you know, it was extraterrestrials
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Speaker 2: and aliens that they were seeing, because he already believed it.
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Speaker 2: He already believed that that's what it was, So you
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Speaker 2: didn't really have to convince him or push him yeah
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Speaker 2: in that way very much. You just had to kind
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Speaker 2: of be like, oh, I kind of think that what
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Speaker 2: you're talking about is really interesting. Then it just he
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Speaker 2: convinces himself. So that's the narrative that I believe if
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Speaker 2: there was this meeting, because I'm back and forth on
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Speaker 2: even if there was a meeting, or if it was
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Speaker 2: it was a government meeting, but this guy was saying
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Speaker 2: that there was this congress person that was in on
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Speaker 2: this meeting, so there had to have been if it
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Speaker 2: did happen, there had to have been some sort of
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Speaker 2: governmental influence there, but no one was on the same
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Speaker 2: page with the entire thing. But then we get the
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Speaker 2: drop today, we get the reveal today. And I posted
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Speaker 2: a lot of things on my Facebook page as I
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Speaker 2: was kind of going through, and I'll do a share
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Speaker 2: a screen here yep, or some of it just directly
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Speaker 2: on the Facebook page, because I just put the things
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Speaker 2: on there that I kind of thought were interesting to me.
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Speaker 2: It might not be interesting to other people, but I
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Speaker 2: thought that it was, you know, at least somewhat interesting
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Speaker 2: that maybe needs to be taking a second look at.
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Speaker 2: So the first one that I found as this document
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Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty seven that for this gentleman allegedly solid
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Speaker 2: craft while in nineteen forty four. Now nineteen forty four
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Speaker 2: is an interesting date because it's before the kennethorn Old siding,
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Speaker 2: it's before a lot of the major UFO sightings of
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Speaker 2: that time, but it wasn't reported until nineteen sixty seven,
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Speaker 2: right until nineteen sixty seven, so he could have then
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Speaker 2: because the UFO and flying Saucer craze hit hard in
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Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven with the Kinnethornal sightings. All of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: everybody was starting to see flying saucers and call them
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Speaker 2: flying saucers and everything. But I just think the timing
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Speaker 2: is really interesting. But this guy believed that the craft
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Speaker 2: was designed and engineered by a man that was a
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Speaker 2: German engineer. And is there the pose it.
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Speaker 3: Revert what is.
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Speaker 1: It called when you take a reverse engineer.
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Speaker 2: Not reverse engineer, but it's like the negatives. These are
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Speaker 2: the negatives yeap photographs that he took of the craft.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. But that's the first one
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Speaker 2: that says that he believes that this was a you know,
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Speaker 2: a foreign militaries man made craft. This one I thought
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Speaker 2: was really interesting because I've been talking about this. I've
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Speaker 2: talked about this on your show. I've talked about it
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Speaker 2: on my show several times, and many other people's shows.
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Speaker 2: That the flying saucer narrative came from a sport that
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Speaker 2: predated Kenneth Arnold's sightings by decades, and it was a
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Speaker 2: sport of flying saucers like frisbees, Yeah, like frisbees, and
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Speaker 2: they would they would throw them and then they would
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Speaker 2: also be used as a trap shooting and guns and
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Speaker 2: like they would you know, they would call clay pigeons,
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Speaker 2: they would be thrown in then you know, use this
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Speaker 2: target practice. And it was later adopted by the military
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Speaker 2: during World War Two and then it kind of fell
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Speaker 2: out of you know, commonplace with the everyday public and
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Speaker 2: it just became a military and then up until then
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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty seven, then it gets renamed to be
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Speaker 2: these actual craft in the scot So it's like an.
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Speaker 1: That's an interesting origin story for that name for flying saucers.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a co optive way to co opt the term.
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Speaker 2: I thought this one was interesting because it's kind of
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Speaker 2: getting back to that demonic devil that these are demons.
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Speaker 1: Scott Devil shield, Scott Devilship.
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Speaker 2: But there's also other ones that are really fun in
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Speaker 2: there too, of like flying table lamp, the flying wine.
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Speaker 1: I saw some hilarious pictures in there. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you saw the article about the man walking through
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Speaker 1: the forest that may have found the body of a
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Speaker 1: little green men and it's a picture of a dude
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Speaker 1: holding up a picture of wood. Definitely looks like a
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Speaker 1: skinned squirrel or rabbit or some kind of woodland creature.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty sad that Yes, that's it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy, Edward Waters and two friends said that
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Speaker 2: they saw this flying saucer ran over the They said
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Speaker 2: that they seen a bunch of entities running around on
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Speaker 2: the road and they decided to run one of them
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Speaker 2: over and then whenever they ran it over. I had
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Speaker 2: never heard this before, so I thought that it was
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Speaker 2: pretty interesting. I never heard this story. And and they
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Speaker 2: got out.
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Speaker 3: Of the car.
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Speaker 2: The entity was growing, glowing with a red red hue.
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Speaker 2: And then there saw two other little three other little
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Speaker 2: men scurry off into the distance and get into a
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Speaker 2: very small, like four foot diameter UFO craft and then
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Speaker 2: buzz off into the sky.
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Speaker 1: And then then says in the article a skinned monkey.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well scientists claimed that it was a skinned monkey.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is the stuff we have to work with.
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Speaker 1: And then we have pictures of quote unquote flying saucer
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Speaker 1: debris that looks like someone just smashed a toaster and
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Speaker 1: took pictures of the debris.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't post any of those because I thought
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Speaker 2: that it would be Murray Island incident, because that's the
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Speaker 2: same type of scenario that happened with the Murray Island
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Speaker 2: incident that involved Kenneth Arnold that you know, the people
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Speaker 2: on the boat, and this debris came out of the
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Speaker 2: center of the ship and then killed his dog and
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Speaker 2: injured his son's arm and all of that, and then
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Speaker 2: sink the ship. And then these two Air Force officers
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Speaker 2: went to collect some of the debris and then whenever
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Speaker 2: they got back on the plane to leave Washington, the
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Speaker 2: plane crash and it killed the two Air Force officers.
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Speaker 2: I thought that that was the debris that it was
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Speaker 2: in there, but it wasn't. It was something from me
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Speaker 2: or something like that that was scientifically tested to be
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Speaker 2: just some weird formations. Yeah, this one is really interesting.
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Speaker 2: This is from nineteen forty two which this gentleman claims
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Speaker 2: that the real story of UFOs was aren't extraterrestrial, they're
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Speaker 2: actually US built craft and the first one was built
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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty to.
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Speaker 3: Here some pictures of the supposed craft here.
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Speaker 2: And this article is really fascinating because it goes into
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Speaker 2: the propulsion and how it works and you know, how flies,
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Speaker 2: and that it's basically a US made, man made craft.
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Speaker 2: This one's really interesting. This one is apparently from nineteen fifty.
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Speaker 2: It's a mister X. It's one of those. This is
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Speaker 2: the alien creature here on the right.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't see this one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's pretty interesting. It's apparently it's kind of
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Speaker 2: that guy. But there was like two or three different
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Speaker 2: one of these aliens that they had supposedly captured one
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Speaker 2: of them.
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Speaker 3: What was the one Bob or whatever there was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: there was like mister X.
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Speaker 2: There's like the alien arts topsy footage or whatever. This
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Speaker 2: one is supposedly taken in Germany in nineteen fifty, and
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Speaker 2: then here's the reverse image synopsis of it that shows
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Speaker 2: that there wasn't anything tampered with. That it wasn't photoshop
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Speaker 2: or anything.
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Speaker 1: So it's interesting. It still could be a dude in
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Speaker 1: a mask though, a little short dude or a child.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it definitely could be, but at least the shows
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Speaker 2: that it's not a not a fake photo, not a
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Speaker 2: fake tampered with Photoah, definitely could be.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting though.
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Speaker 2: They got this entity on a leash here.
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Speaker 1: That's great. That's the way they handled those aliens back then.
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Speaker 1: You just put a leash on them in they're docile.
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Speaker 2: And get them pretty easily like that. And this one
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Speaker 2: is another.
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Speaker 3: Guy that worked for the German.
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Speaker 2: War Production Ministry saying that UFOs are a top secret
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Speaker 2: weapons made by the US. And it's another newspaper clipping
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Speaker 2: here from the files. It says that there are two
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Speaker 2: types of flying saucers built to today, with one diameter
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Speaker 2: of for forty eight feet power by five jets, and
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Speaker 2: a larger model with a diameter of one hundred and
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Speaker 2: twenty six feet and twelve jets. This, he says, accounts
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Speaker 2: for the rumor that sorcerers often appear to change size
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Speaker 2: and density, raise wing flaps, lift both aircraft like a helicopter.
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Speaker 2: The one big one can keep it by keep a
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Speaker 2: stationary by turning the jets down to counter balanced gravity.
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Speaker 2: Flying saucers developed in Canada by John Frost's former colleague
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Speaker 2: of Sir Frank Whittle, have reached speeds up to fifteen
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Speaker 2: hundred miles per hour and have been inspected by fort Material.
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Speaker 2: Montgomery says, this gentleman here, so hey, there's a lot
22:21
Speaker 2: of people, there's a lot of clippings in these documents
22:24
Speaker 2: that are saying that these crafts are not extraterrestrial or
22:29
Speaker 2: alien of origin, that they are human man made mostly
22:35
Speaker 2: from Germany, Russia, and the United States, so find that
22:40
Speaker 2: very interesting. This one is pretty interesting too. This one,
22:47
Speaker 2: this one might be the first missing inventor or engineer
22:52
Speaker 2: and related to UFOs and nineteen forty nine Air Force
22:58
Speaker 2: officers found and a and in barn with two prototype
23:02
Speaker 2: discshaped craft inside which they couldn't locate the person responsible
23:08
Speaker 2: for making the craft. But here are some pictures of
23:13
Speaker 2: the supposed craft that were found in this abandoned barn. Interesting.
23:21
Speaker 2: We go here with some.
23:22
Speaker 1: Gauger that looks very human made very much like human technology.
23:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's even a number here at the bot right
23:35
Speaker 2: here at MX nine oh zero ninety eight. But it
23:41
Speaker 2: looks like an egg shaped craft. It looks like the
23:44
Speaker 2: what you would describe as like a TikTok.
23:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are I mean, the more evidence and the
23:53
Speaker 1: more we see pictures like this, the more likely it
23:57
Speaker 1: is we're just dealing with experimental mility, Harry craft, or
24:01
Speaker 1: even experimental craft by engineers that got lend of some
24:07
Speaker 1: of that technology and made it themselves because the regulations
24:12
Speaker 1: in the sky weren't all encompassing like they are now
24:16
Speaker 1: and people might have been able to get away with
24:19
Speaker 1: engineering some of that stuff themselves a little bit back then.
24:23
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean look at the airships, the
24:27
Speaker 2: airships of A yeah eighteen D. There is a document
24:32
Speaker 2: that I don't have readily available that I can't find it,
24:37
Speaker 2: but it shows dimensions and sketches of some airships with propellers.
24:46
Speaker 2: I sent them to Walter Bosley for him the checkout.
24:50
Speaker 2: But that and then we got these all of these
24:56
Speaker 2: military photos from a Fighter J that have supposedly taken
25:02
Speaker 2: photos of anomalous objects in the sky, like this one,
25:07
Speaker 2: that one. This one's a composite sketch. This isn't a
25:09
Speaker 2: real photo. It's obviously not a real phoot. It's definitely
25:12
Speaker 2: been messed with and this just has been inserted into
25:16
Speaker 2: the photo. But this is from eyewitness account of what
25:23
Speaker 2: several people said that they had saw, which was this
25:26
Speaker 2: cylindrical cigar shaped object coming out of a white portal
25:32
Speaker 2: flash of light. Here's some pictures from Apollo twelve show
25:40
Speaker 2: some anomalous lights in the sky, apparently on the moon.
25:46
Speaker 1: Chris, Yeah, I love those moon pictures.
25:51
Speaker 2: There's some other ones of the anomalous lights on the
25:56
Speaker 2: moon from Apollo twelve, which I believe is just it's
26:02
Speaker 2: just that the sound it's just you're just getting backlighting
26:05
Speaker 2: from the sound stage that they're filming it on. Yeah,
26:08
Speaker 2: soundscreen projection.
26:09
Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. They have a few NASA photos in there
26:13
Speaker 1: from astronaut briefings and like those other Moon photos that
26:18
Speaker 1: you were showing, and all of those are super sketch.
26:24
Speaker 3: And here is the airship document. Really quickly.
26:32
Speaker 2: Pull back up zoom.
26:35
Speaker 1: You know, they still could be building the narrative that
26:40
Speaker 1: we were told that they told the pastors that the
26:42
Speaker 1: aliens created us. They're highly advanced inner dimensional species. They
26:48
Speaker 1: are kind of as these documents come out, it seems
26:52
Speaker 1: like they're trying to frame whatever these aliens are as
26:57
Speaker 1: highly technological the older phot photos looking back now, they
27:02
Speaker 1: are kind of ridiculous for us to in our modern
27:07
Speaker 1: age really grasp onto that narrative. But I'm interested to
27:11
Speaker 1: see when more of the newer stuff comes out what
27:15
Speaker 1: they have to portray the alien and the crafts the
27:20
Speaker 1: new modern crafts are. Are they going to be different
27:23
Speaker 1: than the old saucers that we see It already seems
27:28
Speaker 1: like there is different technology that they're presenting in our
27:32
Speaker 1: modern age.
27:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really strange how fast. The technology of UFOs
27:42
Speaker 2: have transitioned, you know. I mean we're still using the
27:49
Speaker 2: same cars that we've been using for eighty years now.
27:56
Speaker 2: Very little has changed. We're still using the same trains
28:00
Speaker 2: and planes, same modes of transportation, with a few different
28:04
Speaker 2: variants in there, you know. But UFOs went from a
28:09
Speaker 2: rudimentary saucer shaped physical craft to a inter dimensional time
28:17
Speaker 2: traveling portal making submersible in just twenty years.
28:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. They haven't even started releasing the underwater stuff yet,
28:31
Speaker 1: which who knows how much of that's going to be included.
28:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the documents that looks like airships. Here.
28:41
Speaker 3: This is.
28:43
Speaker 2: A classic airship with the propellers and the wings. And
28:53
Speaker 2: this is written in a different language, so.
28:55
Speaker 1: It's hard to really Yeah, this was in the files.
28:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:00
Speaker 4: Interesting.
29:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the FIUL number is up here.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, but I thought that's pretty interesting. And
29:12
Speaker 2: there's another one.
29:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, orbs.
29:16
Speaker 1: Those listening on the audio end, if you'd like to
29:18
Speaker 1: see the images we are presenting here, come over to
29:21
Speaker 1: YouTube a rumble please.
29:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going to get it anywhere else because
29:26
Speaker 2: no one has gone through any of these I mean
29:29
Speaker 2: they will. I'm sure they will tomorrow. Everyone, I've already
29:35
Speaker 2: found all this stuff.
29:36
Speaker 1: But that's right, you heard it here first, folks, rightly, right, baby, let.
29:43
Speaker 2: Me get this, uh, this other one up about the
29:47
Speaker 2: orbs because I thought it was kind of interesting too.
29:50
Speaker 2: But other than the stuff that I'm pointing out, there's
29:53
Speaker 2: really nothing else other than you know, some it's just
30:00
Speaker 2: a bunch of reports that doesn't give a lot of
30:02
Speaker 2: reports more information than what you already.
30:07
Speaker 1: Which I'm sure if you delve into some of those,
30:10
Speaker 1: they'll probably have some interesting reports, but a lot of
30:13
Speaker 1: those are extremely difficult to read and blurry, so that's
30:18
Speaker 1: going to take time to dive deep into some of
30:21
Speaker 1: those files.
30:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was basically just scrolling and trying to find
30:27
Speaker 2: interesting thing that has stuff that has any type of
30:30
Speaker 2: evidence to it.
30:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:32
Speaker 2: This one is the orbs launching orbs. This is called
30:36
Speaker 2: the Western US event. Three teams of federal law enforcement
30:43
Speaker 2: special agents independently describes seeing orange orbs in the sky,
30:48
Speaker 2: emitting and launch smaller red orbs, and groups of two
30:53
Speaker 2: to four, with three being the general consensus. This is
30:57
Speaker 2: stated to have occurred at least five times. Each time
31:00
Speaker 2: orange orb would appear to launch red orbs then disappear.
31:03
Speaker 2: The orange orb was only visible for one or two seconds.
31:07
Speaker 2: The red orbs would generally move away from the orange.
31:09
Speaker 3: Mother orb and a horizontal path, but.
31:12
Speaker 2: Then a couple instances the red orb was stand and
31:15
Speaker 2: move heading up at an angle, while other witnesses stated
31:18
Speaker 2: sometimes the red orbs was swooped down after being launched
31:21
Speaker 2: from the larger orange orb. These events were witnessed by
31:25
Speaker 2: multiple teams from varying locations and vantage points over a
31:29
Speaker 2: two day period. Due to the sequential nature of events,
31:33
Speaker 2: it is not known whether there was a single orange
31:37
Speaker 2: mother orb or released the group of red orb, whether
31:41
Speaker 2: there were multiple orange orbs at play.
31:44
Speaker 3: Orb orb.
31:48
Speaker 1: I want to see a mother orb.
31:51
Speaker 2: Give me that mother orb.
31:54
Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting, A.
31:57
Speaker 3: Large fiery orb.
32:01
Speaker 2: Two federal law enforcement special agents witness glowing orange drawer
32:05
Speaker 2: at a distance of approximately five hundred and six hundred
32:08
Speaker 2: meters were perched close to the rock pinnacle. Size was
32:15
Speaker 2: difficult to determine, but appeared to be similar in size
32:18
Speaker 2: to the small helicopter cockpit. Witnesses were able to clearly
32:21
Speaker 2: see any structure other than the glowing orb. Noted that
32:25
Speaker 2: the object it almost appeared it might have had a
32:28
Speaker 2: small spindle or something connecting from the underneath of the
32:31
Speaker 2: rock formation. Witnesses state that the object did not emit
32:34
Speaker 2: any noticeable sound. Object was described as being similar to
32:38
Speaker 2: the eye.
32:41
Speaker 3: Souron the I of Souran from Lord.
32:43
Speaker 2: Of the Rings. Chris got the Ig of Souron.
32:48
Speaker 1: He's always watching files.
32:53
Speaker 2: Seemed to be hovering or a zero resistance or movement
32:56
Speaker 2: or suspended. The sighting lasted about a minute. Yep, that's right, baby,
33:01
Speaker 2: we've seen the Eye of sour On. What did what
33:04
Speaker 2: did J. R. R. Tolkien know about the orbs? You
33:12
Speaker 2: put that on the thumbnail, bro.
33:14
Speaker 4: J R. R.
33:14
Speaker 2: Tolkien knew about the orbs and pre the UFO file
33:19
Speaker 2: being released in twenty twenty six.
33:22
Speaker 1: That's right, man, he knew, he knew. So these are
33:26
Speaker 1: mostly from police and federal agents reports.
33:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not making fun of I think
33:35
Speaker 2: that there's something to this.
33:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of fun what.
33:38
Speaker 2: They tend to relate them to. You know, we relate
33:41
Speaker 2: things that we see based off of what we know
33:43
Speaker 2: and what we can, you know, surmise in our mind.
33:46
Speaker 2: I mean, Kenneth Arnold did this all the time. You
33:48
Speaker 2: would say that that the UFOs look like a flock
33:51
Speaker 2: of geese or you know what I mean. Like, we
33:53
Speaker 2: just try and relate anything that we know due to
33:57
Speaker 2: the current things that we understand. You know.
34:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's one person's perception could be much different
34:04
Speaker 1: from the next. Two people could see very different things
34:07
Speaker 1: at the same time in the sky.
34:09
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's up to interpretation. It's the Youngian perspective. Baby,
34:16
Speaker 2: this one's interesting. Transparent kite. About thirty minutes after the
34:19
Speaker 2: dark kite sighting, Federal Law Enforcement special agents returned to
34:23
Speaker 2: the same general area with the colleague and response to
34:26
Speaker 2: report another unauthorized object in the area. Within a few
34:29
Speaker 2: hundred meters of the dark kite sighting, two of the
34:32
Speaker 2: team members observed a kite shaped object with a lighting
34:37
Speaker 2: powtern similar to the object seen previously. This object is
34:40
Speaker 2: about six meters off the ground, canted at an angle
34:44
Speaker 2: lower right, upper left, and appeared to be floating slowly
34:49
Speaker 2: with the wind. Over here as a depiction of what
34:53
Speaker 2: this transparent kite looked like. The winteresting that the shining
35:01
Speaker 2: when the shining light was like around it. At one
35:05
Speaker 2: point my beam went through the shining Ooh, we're talking
35:09
Speaker 2: about the shining. Did Cuban know about the UFOs bro
35:13
Speaker 2: shining far into the distance to stop about fifty yards away?
35:16
Speaker 2: And nothing in particular. It was just not projecting into
35:21
Speaker 2: the distance. And then it was when the witness pointed
35:25
Speaker 2: the light at the spot where the light had appeared
35:27
Speaker 2: to be blocked by something the time the light was
35:31
Speaker 2: projecting into the distance. Again, the team was unable to
35:34
Speaker 2: require to require sight of the object. Okay, and the
35:39
Speaker 2: way that they'd say these things is so damn confusing.
35:43
Speaker 2: The light and the kite and the kite and the light.
35:46
Speaker 1: And you remember at our gathering when we had the
35:48
Speaker 1: night vision goggles and you saw that V shaped craft
35:53
Speaker 1: slowly hovering over. It was pretty high, but it must
35:56
Speaker 1: have been pretty big too.
35:58
Speaker 2: That one was interesting. We saw that V shaped round
36:01
Speaker 2: and then we also saw that triangle thing that was
36:03
Speaker 2: just spinning.
36:05
Speaker 1: I missed that one.
36:06
Speaker 3: That one was weird, Yeah, man, real weird.
36:11
Speaker 2: But yeah, other than that we got I mean, that's
36:13
Speaker 2: pretty much all that I found that was even somewhat interesting.
36:17
Speaker 2: The rest of it is just documents upon documents, and
36:22
Speaker 2: like I said in the beginning, if you if you
36:25
Speaker 2: want to see the pic, basically all the pictures that
36:28
Speaker 2: are in the documents. All you got to do is
36:29
Speaker 2: go to the to the main page of the Department
36:33
Speaker 2: of War website and you can look at all the pictures.
36:37
Speaker 2: Besides some of the Apollo twelve and I think Apollo
36:42
Speaker 2: thirteen photos that I think that's on page fifteen. Page
36:49
Speaker 2: fifteen or sixteen is all of the NASA photos with
36:53
Speaker 2: the anomalous things and the background. So pretty much what
36:57
Speaker 2: you get is, you know some some of the things
37:01
Speaker 2: that I found. You get the bunch of reports and documents.
37:05
Speaker 2: You know, that's not really giving any kind of more
37:08
Speaker 2: information than what we already knew. A lot of it
37:11
Speaker 2: was focused on Kenneth Arnold. I mean the first like
37:15
Speaker 2: three or four documents of the entire thing is nothing
37:18
Speaker 2: but Kenneth Arnold sightings. I didn't see any Betty in
37:23
Speaker 2: Barney Hill stuff. There wasn't anything about abductions unless it's
37:28
Speaker 2: in some of the reports, But no real photos. We
37:34
Speaker 2: get some of the unreleased images we're taken by these
37:37
Speaker 2: fighter jets, you know.
37:41
Speaker 1: That's I will say, I never thought I would see
37:46
Speaker 1: this information being released by the government just ten years ago,
37:52
Speaker 1: but we're in a place now where it's we know
37:57
Speaker 1: you and I know that there's an extreme amount of
38:01
Speaker 1: deceptions surrounding the entire UFO narrative. So seeing the direction
38:09
Speaker 1: that this plays out is going to be very interesting
38:12
Speaker 1: to me, because, like I said, they seem to have
38:14
Speaker 1: the two different narratives to choose from. Based on what
38:18
Speaker 1: they're going to be releasing, what narrative are they going
38:22
Speaker 1: to build on more? And I think it's going to
38:25
Speaker 1: be along the lines of what was claimed to be
38:29
Speaker 1: told to the pastors, But we'll see either way. I
38:34
Speaker 1: have to I have to be cautious when examining any
38:39
Speaker 1: of this stuff, But I want to get your thoughts
38:42
Speaker 1: on the missing scientists that have been kind of connected
38:51
Speaker 1: with UFOs or free energy or molecular biology. There's a
38:57
Speaker 1: few different areas that these scientists were involved with, and
39:02
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have some that are connected in some ways,
39:06
Speaker 1: and I'm sure some are just coincidences. But what are
39:08
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that.
39:11
Speaker 2: Well, first off, I think it's really interesting if that
39:13
Speaker 2: meeting did really happen, between the.
39:19
Speaker 3: That the churches and the pastors.
39:21
Speaker 2: And all that. I think that it's really interesting that
39:24
Speaker 2: the government still believes that the church pastors have a
39:26
Speaker 2: big of an influence on the public as they once did.
39:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
39:31
Speaker 5: Oh no, we're going to release these documents. That's going
39:34
Speaker 5: to blow up, but it's going to make everybody really
39:36
Speaker 5: question their entire reality. We were proving that aliens are real,
39:41
Speaker 5: you know, we better contact all the church pastors.
39:45
Speaker 1: To me, that would just reinforce really religious people's beliefs,
39:51
Speaker 1: and they would go a step further and say the
39:53
Speaker 1: government is lying to them because they believe in God
39:56
Speaker 1: and they believe in Jesus and they were told that
39:58
Speaker 1: we'd have this deception and upon us during the end days.
40:02
Speaker 1: So it seems like that would make them double down
40:05
Speaker 1: in their beliefs, not revert to atheism all of a sudden.
40:12
Speaker 1: I don't know.
40:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, how many followers do you have on what?
40:17
Speaker 2: Where is your podcast ranked in the top podcast on Apple?
40:22
Speaker 2: It's up there, isn't it.
40:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like number between twenty five and thirty five
40:26
Speaker 1: in the spirituality category.
40:29
Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're twenty three twenty five. You have like
40:32
Speaker 2: how many subscribers on YouTube now?
40:34
Speaker 1: Like at least thirty two thousand, but they jypped me
40:38
Speaker 1: of a few years of that. But somewhere around.
40:40
Speaker 2: There you got like thirty two thousand, thirty five thousand.
40:43
Speaker 2: You have a bigger influence on the perception of the
40:47
Speaker 2: public with the amount of followers and the amount of
40:50
Speaker 2: subscribers and the amount of listeners and where you're ranked
40:53
Speaker 2: on the top podcast on Apple than ninety nine percent
40:57
Speaker 2: of the church pastors and church in the United States.
41:03
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're right about that, But there are a
41:06
Speaker 1: lot of deeply religious Christians. Aside from what they told
41:11
Speaker 1: the pastors, I believe they would handle this information much
41:16
Speaker 1: differently than the government thinks or is trying to portray
41:20
Speaker 1: that they think they would. I think a lot of
41:22
Speaker 1: people would just double down in their beliefs and believe
41:25
Speaker 1: that they're being lied to by the government. But we'll
41:29
Speaker 1: see how it all plays out.
41:30
Speaker 5: Because it's really demons, really demons. At least the files
41:33
Speaker 5: approved that it's really demons. That that's the only way
41:37
Speaker 5: that it's going to go. But do you know what
41:39
Speaker 5: the public is going to do.
41:41
Speaker 2: Right, Let's say that this isn't the and this might
41:44
Speaker 2: be just it's definitely just the first drop. There's more coming.
41:48
Speaker 2: There's there's definitely more coming. Okay, this this has been
41:52
Speaker 2: going on for almost eighty years or just a little
41:59
Speaker 2: bit over eighty years, you know, since the first kinnethernal
42:01
Speaker 2: sighting is really whenever this entire thing started really exploding,
42:06
Speaker 2: So you have several decades of information. And that's another
42:12
Speaker 2: thing that's in the files. There's like a bunch of
42:14
Speaker 2: FBI reports from Jaegar Hoover, Like people are just writing
42:20
Speaker 2: Jajeggar Hoover saying that you guys, the FBI needs to
42:22
Speaker 2: investigate my claims or investigator give us more information about
42:26
Speaker 2: and then Jaggar Hoover writes them back and is like,
42:29
Speaker 2: the FBI isn't responsible for investigating UFO phenomena. That's basically
42:35
Speaker 2: what he says to every single person. But there's tons
42:37
Speaker 2: and tons and letters and notes of people writing the
42:41
Speaker 2: FBI in this. But we got like a million Epstein files. Okay,
42:50
Speaker 2: and Epstein had been going on since a real investigation
42:55
Speaker 2: probably didn't actually start happening until like the early two thousands,
43:01
Speaker 2: but yeah, we got millions of Epstein files. There's so
43:04
Speaker 2: many of them that you can't even that. You've got
43:08
Speaker 2: to have a key word to be able to search
43:09
Speaker 2: for the thing that you want to try and look up. Okay,
43:13
Speaker 2: but we got one hundred and forty seven or one
43:18
Speaker 2: hundred and forty some UFO files. When this is a
43:23
Speaker 2: phenomenon that's been at least going on in modern times
43:27
Speaker 2: since nineteen forty seven, give me a break. There. There's
43:30
Speaker 2: way more to come. There has to be. There's no
43:33
Speaker 2: way that this is it. And that might be a
43:35
Speaker 2: part of the plan too, is drop this a little
43:40
Speaker 2: bit amount of stuff, get people to think that there's
43:44
Speaker 2: nothing to it, so then whenever they drop more in
43:47
Speaker 2: the future that might actually be of more substance. That
43:52
Speaker 2: may that could prove what that pastor was saying that
43:57
Speaker 2: you know, they're that there are creators, And I'm not
44:00
Speaker 2: saying that this is true. I'm just trying to look
44:02
Speaker 2: at it from their perspective and what they might do.
44:05
Speaker 3: Right.
44:07
Speaker 2: The thing that comes out later might be the big,
44:10
Speaker 2: heavy hitting thing, but people will then cease to care
44:14
Speaker 2: about it because they'll be like, they won't immediately go
44:20
Speaker 2: and look at it, so it won't be that big
44:22
Speaker 2: of a deal like it is now. So the first
44:24
Speaker 2: drop is going was the biggest hype drop, but it
44:27
Speaker 2: turned out to be pretty much a nothing burger. Other
44:30
Speaker 2: than the things that I just showed you and the
44:34
Speaker 2: things that I talked about that I felt it was interesting. Yeah,
44:39
Speaker 2: the only thing else that could possibly be in there
44:41
Speaker 2: is some anecdotal evidence from some reports and some documents
44:48
Speaker 2: that are from some military documents, But from the military
44:54
Speaker 2: documents that I read, it did not give you any
44:57
Speaker 2: more information than what we already had. There is not
45:00
Speaker 2: any conclusions drawn. There wasn't This is definitely extra They're
45:04
Speaker 2: definitely aliens where they're here to take us over, or
45:08
Speaker 2: there are creators. There is absolutely nothing like that than
45:10
Speaker 2: any of the ones that I've seen. So if anybody
45:12
Speaker 2: else has has found anything like that, then please let
45:16
Speaker 2: me know or drop a comment below, or contact christ
45:19
Speaker 2: contact me or whatever. But once I got to through
45:22
Speaker 2: all that, I was like, Okay, well, what's really going
45:24
Speaker 2: on here? But you know what the public is going
45:26
Speaker 2: to do, Chris, if this does happen, right, if something
45:30
Speaker 2: does get released in the future that completely dismantles religion
45:34
Speaker 2: and makes people question Christianity and question the Bible and
45:37
Speaker 2: completely dismantles the New Testament and destroys Jesus. That Jesus
45:42
Speaker 2: wasn't real, He was a construct created by the extraterrestrials.
45:47
Speaker 2: Where do you think that they're going to go to
45:49
Speaker 2: the church and ask their preacher. No, they're gonna flip
45:53
Speaker 2: on YouTube. They're gonna get on Spotify, they're gonna get
45:57
Speaker 2: on Apple podcasts, and they're gonna flip to their favorite
46:00
Speaker 2: podcaster and they're gonna listen to what they have to
46:03
Speaker 2: say about it. You know how many people went to
46:06
Speaker 2: the church and asked their pastor about the Epstein files.
46:12
Speaker 1: Well, if that's true, we're gonna have some good times ahead, buddy.
46:17
Speaker 1: You know, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
46:20
Speaker 1: But going back to the missing scientists, do you think
46:24
Speaker 1: that any of them are at all connected with the
46:29
Speaker 1: current disclosure. Maybe they're being silenced before this stuff comes
46:33
Speaker 1: out because what they know could be detrimental to the
46:38
Speaker 1: information that they're trying to control, the narrative they're trying
46:42
Speaker 1: to control.
46:44
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be. I really don't know what
46:47
Speaker 2: to think about the missing scientists or the scientists that
46:52
Speaker 2: have been found dead. I know there's a connection to
46:55
Speaker 2: a lot of them to loss almost labs, but as
47:03
Speaker 2: I just don't really know what to think about it.
47:05
Speaker 2: I just don't know, because yeah, there's so many different
47:09
Speaker 2: a lot of them have been linked to the you know,
47:12
Speaker 2: the UFO community kind of blew it up and was like,
47:15
Speaker 2: all these are UFO scientists, that's not true.
47:19
Speaker 1: They're now and it's unfortunate what's happened with the death
47:24
Speaker 1: of David Wilcock. You and I have been aware of
47:29
Speaker 1: what Wilcock was about for a very long time, and
47:34
Speaker 1: to have tons of conspiracy theorists and wild accusations about
47:43
Speaker 1: him being involved with the secret space program and being
47:47
Speaker 1: assassinated or being offed by clandestine government groups, it gets
47:53
Speaker 1: pretty ridiculous when you really know the true story of
47:57
Speaker 1: what happened, and it's a very sad story. It's very unfortunate.
48:02
Speaker 2: It is a very sad story, and I definitely do
48:05
Speaker 2: feel bad for him. He didn't really have any friends.
48:09
Speaker 2: His wife left him. He invested a lot of money
48:13
Speaker 2: into a SAVADIERO space which did not produce any products,
48:18
Speaker 2: that did not produce anything that they said that it
48:20
Speaker 2: was going to produce, and then it was in turn
48:22
Speaker 2: being sued for millions of dollars from another investor, which
48:26
Speaker 2: was also a scammer. Apparently supposedly it was also a scammer,
48:31
Speaker 2: so it was a scammer trying to scam a scammer,
48:33
Speaker 2: and the scammer wanted its money, and then there was
48:37
Speaker 2: a whole idea that, well, not an idea. It was
48:40
Speaker 2: proven that he was over a million dollars in debt
48:43
Speaker 2: to the IRS, so that there was that that was
48:47
Speaker 2: hanging over his head, and that there were some rumors
48:50
Speaker 2: and speculation that he had received some sort of letter
48:57
Speaker 2: from the IRS seeing that they were going to confiscate
48:59
Speaker 2: his house because his house.
49:01
Speaker 1: Was so sad man. He had a a huge gig
49:07
Speaker 1: at Gaya, and he was thriving. He obviously had millions
49:12
Speaker 1: to spend at one point, but this Corey Good character
49:16
Speaker 1: seemed to infiltrate his life and then everything fucking falls
49:21
Speaker 1: apart from there.
49:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really sad deal, and I, you know,
49:27
Speaker 2: feel really bad for him, even though you know, I
49:31
Speaker 2: don't agree with anything that he said, Like I don't
49:35
Speaker 2: ever want anybody to go out like that. I wouldn't
49:40
Speaker 2: wish that upon my worst enemy, you know, like that's
49:43
Speaker 2: a horrible way to go out. But the police recording
49:47
Speaker 2: and the police radio transmissions were seeing that, you know,
49:54
Speaker 2: that he had ran out of money and that that
49:58
Speaker 2: he had to leave and all this and it's just
50:01
Speaker 2: a really sad situation. But yeah, people lumping him into
50:06
Speaker 2: the category of some sort of aerospace engineer or aerospace
50:12
Speaker 2: scientist is completely and fundamentally untrue. So anything that's a
50:18
Speaker 2: way to cover up some of the real scientists and
50:23
Speaker 2: the real engineers that have gone missing that maybe need
50:27
Speaker 2: more of a spotlight on.
50:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, as I said earlier about the entire UFO
50:36
Speaker 1: disclosure narrative, I think the truth is somewhere between their
50:40
Speaker 1: aliens and their demons, and there's a lot in between.
50:44
Speaker 1: There there's a wide spectrum of what people could be experiencing.
50:50
Speaker 1: I do think there's a deception level, there's a level
50:54
Speaker 1: being orchestrated by our own government. But I also think
50:58
Speaker 1: there's something genuine happening with some people. There's maybe something
51:02
Speaker 1: genuine that we're seeing at the in the sky at
51:06
Speaker 1: times now. Genuine, I mean it could be anything from
51:10
Speaker 1: a natural phenomena to a ghost, to a demon, to
51:14
Speaker 1: an alien to swamp gas. So there is a wide
51:20
Speaker 1: variety of possibilities that we could be dealing with in
51:24
Speaker 1: the umbrella of extraterrestrials and alien disclosure. But I do,
51:31
Speaker 1: like I said, I do think that there is something
51:34
Speaker 1: that people are experiencing that could be considered paranormal. Sometimes
51:40
Speaker 1: they could be they could be in contact with beings
51:44
Speaker 1: that would be considered non human. There's no real evidence, unfortunately,
51:50
Speaker 1: for any of this. But what are your thoughts on
51:52
Speaker 1: the possibilities of something really happening between the alien and
51:57
Speaker 1: demon narrative.
52:02
Speaker 2: Well, if anything, it seems like a big setup for
52:05
Speaker 2: some sort of false flag alien because if they do
52:10
Speaker 2: go the route that they're demons, then that's a good
52:15
Speaker 2: setup for an alien destruction on the United States and abroad. Right, Right,
52:23
Speaker 2: If people already don't want them or don't like them,
52:28
Speaker 2: then that's a good setup for them to attack.
52:31
Speaker 3: Right.
52:33
Speaker 1: Do you think that there is something genuinely, let's say,
52:36
Speaker 1: paranormal happening within the spectrum of phenomena.
52:42
Speaker 2: I believe that there are certain unexplainable things. But that
52:47
Speaker 2: is That's exactly what it is. It's unexplainable. You can't
52:51
Speaker 2: explain it. You're not supposed to explain it. You're not
52:54
Speaker 2: supposed to know. You know, it's just something that kind
52:58
Speaker 2: of happens. I mean, I've experienced really strange things in
53:03
Speaker 2: my life. I don't know what it was, and I'm
53:05
Speaker 2: not going to claim to know what it was, you know,
53:07
Speaker 2: and I think everyone really has and they would be.
53:11
Speaker 2: And if you haven't, then I mean I kind of
53:14
Speaker 2: feel a little bit bad for you because you haven't
53:16
Speaker 2: really experienced life. But you know, there's things that occur
53:22
Speaker 2: that are just completely defies all logic and defies all reason,
53:28
Speaker 2: and there's really nothing that you can do about it.
53:30
Speaker 2: And the only thing that you can do about it
53:32
Speaker 2: is be like, huh, that was pretty weird.
53:37
Speaker 1: There does seem to be some mysteries in this reality
53:40
Speaker 1: that we may not be able to understand, or maybe
53:45
Speaker 1: we're not even supposed to understand them. I've had plenty
53:47
Speaker 1: of experiences like that, but man, this is crazy times
53:52
Speaker 1: that we're living in. Is there any final thoughts on
53:57
Speaker 1: what we've went over today? Are any any thoughts on
54:04
Speaker 1: what we could be seeing in the future with any
54:06
Speaker 1: of this?
54:08
Speaker 2: I think we could expect more file dumps of this
54:13
Speaker 2: UFO and UAP topic. I don't believe that this is
54:17
Speaker 2: the last one. It can't be the last one. So
54:24
Speaker 2: and everybody wants that big, huge piece of evidence, right,
54:28
Speaker 2: they want that thing that has the government stamp of
54:31
Speaker 2: approval and it seeing you know what, aliens are real,
54:36
Speaker 2: they're here to harvest us. That means they're extraterrestrial, they're
54:41
Speaker 2: interdimensional and they've been here for it. But that's not
54:43
Speaker 2: going to happen. There's there's no file like that that exists.
54:49
Speaker 2: I mean, you can get some allusions to things here
54:52
Speaker 2: and there, but you're not going to get the ind
54:53
Speaker 2: all be All file, just like you're not going to
54:56
Speaker 2: get the moon landing in all be All file, just
54:59
Speaker 2: like you're not going to get the JFK and all
55:02
Speaker 2: be All file of saying exactly who did it? You
55:05
Speaker 2: know what I mean, You're never going to get any
55:07
Speaker 2: of that. So if that's what you're expecting, then you're
55:09
Speaker 2: just you're fighting a losing battle already. You probably shouldn't
55:13
Speaker 2: pay attention to any of it because it's not gonna
55:16
Speaker 2: be you want it to be. So I think that
55:19
Speaker 2: we that, you know, we just gotta kind of keep
55:22
Speaker 2: our eyes peeled on it and kind of follow it
55:26
Speaker 2: and whatever comes out, try and rummage through it, scan
55:31
Speaker 2: through it, see if you can find anything interesting. I mean,
55:33
Speaker 2: that's immediately what I did when I woke up this
55:36
Speaker 2: morning and I posted it all on Facebook and X
55:39
Speaker 2: and shared it here on your show, and I'll be
55:41
Speaker 2: you know, sharing what I found, you know, later on
55:45
Speaker 2: throughout the week. And it's really not much. And there's
55:48
Speaker 2: really not much there again unless you want to read.
55:52
Speaker 3: Through all of those old ass files.
55:54
Speaker 2: That nothing is going to be in. There might be
55:57
Speaker 2: a few cases in there that are kind of interesting
55:59
Speaker 2: that you haven't heard about before, but there's not going
56:02
Speaker 2: to be any definitive answers in any of it, you know.
56:07
Speaker 1: Just like with the Epstein Files.
56:08
Speaker 5: Alien we got the alien body, the alien body is
56:11
Speaker 5: it ry.
56:11
Speaker 2: Powderson Air Force Base? And then we it's an Area
56:14
Speaker 2: fifty one. Area fifty one is a testing you know
56:16
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's not going to be any of that.
56:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems just like with the Epstein Files, there
56:22
Speaker 1: seems to be a layer of demoralization and desensitization just
56:27
Speaker 1: to keep people wanting more but more confused than ever,
56:32
Speaker 1: with less answers and more to consider about the possibilities.
56:38
Speaker 1: So we're in interesting times, man. Before I let you go,
56:41
Speaker 1: remind everyone how they can get all of your content.
56:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. What it's going to do is it's
56:48
Speaker 2: just going to create more answer, I mean more questions. Right, Well,
56:52
Speaker 2: that's that it's intended to do. I mean, we didn't
56:54
Speaker 2: get anything out of the Epstein stuff. All we got
56:57
Speaker 2: was more questions. Nothing was ever done about it. It's
57:00
Speaker 2: gonna be the same way with this. Things can continue
57:03
Speaker 2: to trickle out and come out, but nothing is ever
57:04
Speaker 2: going to be done about it. They'll have a little
57:07
Speaker 2: congressional hearing, just kind of how they did with Pam
57:09
Speaker 2: Bondi and the Epstein files, where they griller.
57:12
Speaker 3: For two and a half three hours over.
57:14
Speaker 2: The Epstein files, and that'll be it, and then it'll
57:17
Speaker 2: be done, and then we'll be onto the next thing,
57:19
Speaker 2: just like what's gonna happen with this. We're gonna be
57:20
Speaker 2: onto the next thing next week. I guarantee you, Chris.
57:25
Speaker 2: Something else is gonna be going on. And the large
57:30
Speaker 2: majority of the people are not gonna be worried about
57:33
Speaker 2: this anymore until the next dump.
57:36
Speaker 1: And then I won't be satisfied till I'll see the
57:38
Speaker 1: alien that was on a leash come in my front
57:40
Speaker 1: yard and talk to me.
57:41
Speaker 2: That's right, that's what you need. You gotta have some
57:43
Speaker 2: physical proof with all of these allegations, right, if you're
57:46
Speaker 2: gonna say it this is what's going on. Then you're
57:49
Speaker 2: gonna have to wheel out the alien body. You're gonna
57:52
Speaker 2: have to wheel out the alien craft.
57:55
Speaker 1: Let me touch it, Yeah, you feel it.
57:59
Speaker 2: My fingers in it, you know, trinkle with it a
58:02
Speaker 2: little bit, let me give it a little rub something
58:05
Speaker 2: like yeah, because at this point people are kind of tired. Yeah, yeah,
58:10
Speaker 2: you get some files whatever. People are kind of tired
58:13
Speaker 2: of the whole string you along and don't really give
58:16
Speaker 2: you anything type of scenario. But things having me on,
58:19
Speaker 2: Chris really appreciate it. If people are interested, they can
58:21
Speaker 2: check me out and raise by Giants on YouTube, inn
58:24
Speaker 2: and all podcast platforms, and be on the lookout for
58:27
Speaker 2: my latest and newest documentary that will be released on
58:31
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime and Apple tv Plus hopefully by the end
58:34
Speaker 2: of the month, called Psychic Aging the Gay Program.
58:38
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Yeah, thank you Rider. We'll do it again.
58:41
Speaker 1: Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. Talk again tomorrow.