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- 1:09Speaker 1: broadcasting live at Pershing's Inside Twenties sixteen conference at the
- 1:13Speaker 1: Higher Regency in Orlando of Florida. And you know, planning
- 1:16Speaker 1: for retirement means more than just having a personal plan
- 1:20Speaker 1: to assure that you have enough money to enjoy your
- 1:23Speaker 1: older age. It's also about having a health plan and
- 1:26Speaker 1: being healthy in order to enjoy it. Here to tell
- 1:29Speaker 1: us more is Dr Annette Khalid, Cancer Division Head and
- 1:32Speaker 1: Associate Professor at the Burnett School of Biomedical Sciences, University
- 1:37Speaker 1: of Central Florida College of Medicine. Dr Khaleen, thank you
- 1:41Speaker 1: very much for being here. Now. I know that you
- 1:43Speaker 1: spoke on the panel having to do with developing the
- 1:46Speaker 1: next generation of treatments for cancer. I wonder if you
- 1:50Speaker 1: could just speak a little bit about why this is
- 1:52Speaker 1: such a crucial issue for all of the attendees here
- 1:56Speaker 1: at this Pershing conference. So we're really at a or
- 2:00Speaker 1: front right now and cancer research where we're making discoveries
- 2:03Speaker 1: that are going to advanced cures for patients. But we've
- 2:06Speaker 1: discovered that in order to personalize cure for a specific
- 2:10Speaker 1: patients tumor, we had a lot more treatments that we
- 2:13Speaker 1: have currently available. In fact, only about maybe two to
- 2:16Speaker 1: three percent of patients actually have a type of tumor
- 2:19Speaker 1: that can be treated with currently available drugs. We need
- 2:23Speaker 1: a lot more drugs in the marketplace, and that's what
- 2:25Speaker 1: labs like mine are doing, is we're discovering new drugs
- 2:28Speaker 1: and trying to move them forward to commercialize them and
- 2:31Speaker 1: get them into patients. That is stunning though, to say
- 2:33Speaker 1: such a small amount of tumors are really only truly
- 2:37Speaker 1: treatable with the current the current drugs, the current protocols
- 2:43Speaker 1: you are on in the midst of something that's very important,
- 2:47Speaker 1: because to cure cancer seems like the big thing is
- 2:50Speaker 1: to figure out how it works and and get in
- 2:52Speaker 1: the middle of that process so the cancer cannot develop, right,
- 2:55Speaker 1: So talk to us about c T twenty P. It's
- 3:00Speaker 1: a molecule that gets in the way of something called
- 3:04Speaker 1: a chaperone in which is a key part of a
- 3:08Speaker 1: tumor growing and developing and ultimately killing someone if you
- 3:10Speaker 1: can't stop it. So you can, you've defined our platform
- 3:14Speaker 1: very well. We actually discovered a therapeutic that is a
- 3:17Speaker 1: small peptide that's really made of amino acids that are
- 3:20Speaker 1: part of your bodies, you know, normal cells, and this
- 3:23Speaker 1: peptide actually goes to cancer cells and specifically kills them.
- 3:26Speaker 1: And the way it does it is because it interferes
- 3:29Speaker 1: with very large machinery. It's also found in cells. It's
- 3:32Speaker 1: called the chaperonein, and what chaperones do is they basically
- 3:36Speaker 1: fold proteins in their final shapes so they can function.
- 3:39Speaker 1: You know, d NA makes rna, RNA makes protein, but
- 3:42Speaker 1: proteins don't stop. Their proteins have to have an activity,
- 3:45Speaker 1: but they have to have the right shape to be
- 3:48Speaker 1: able to have their activities. And that's what chaperoneins do.
- 3:51Speaker 1: They actually make proteins reach the right shape so they
- 3:54Speaker 1: can function and do their jobs. So cancer cells need
- 3:58Speaker 1: a lot of proteins and they need a lot of
- 4:00Speaker 1: proteins in the right shape. And so our pep tide
- 4:02Speaker 1: blocks the shaperone and specifically in cancer cells and thereby
- 4:07Speaker 1: reducing the number of proteins that confunction and cancer cells
- 4:11Speaker 1: and cancer cells will then die. Dr Khalid maybe explain
- 4:15Speaker 1: the kind of cancer that we're talking about here, because
- 4:19Speaker 1: I understand that if you have cancer or tumor in
- 4:22Speaker 1: one part of your body and then it metastasized, it
- 4:24Speaker 1: shifts to other parts of your body. Now we're getting
- 4:27Speaker 1: into an area where you can imagine people need a
- 4:31Speaker 1: lot of help to just correct correct. So so usually
- 4:34Speaker 1: the tumors localized or it's a primary tumor, a lot
- 4:37Speaker 1: of treatments might be able to you know, surgeries or
- 4:40Speaker 1: even you know, toxic compounds, chemotherapeutics, radiation can really deal
- 4:44Speaker 1: with the localized tumors. It's when these tumors, as you mentioned,
- 4:48Speaker 1: leave that primary location when they spread. They spread and
- 4:51Speaker 1: they moved to the brain, when they moved to the
- 4:53Speaker 1: lungs or the bones areas, they're really hard to treat
- 4:56Speaker 1: and really hard to find, and so it's a challenge
- 4:59Speaker 1: to find the treatments drugs that will actually help these
- 5:01Speaker 1: patients eliminate the spread. And what we do with our
- 5:05Speaker 1: treatment is actually target those cells specifically, we're targeting these
- 5:08Speaker 1: cells that rove around and preventing them from basically moving.
- 5:12Speaker 1: A lot of your work right now focusing on breast cancer.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Correct We're using breast cancer is our model because it
- 5:18Speaker 1: really affects so many women and it's really a challenge
- 5:21Speaker 1: because when it metaticizes, there's very little choices out there.
- 5:24Speaker 1: What about raising money to do exactly exactly so that's
- 5:28Speaker 1: that's the challenge that we have. So you know where
- 5:31Speaker 1: our ideas are very vulnerable because we don't have funding
- 5:34Speaker 1: to see them through. And this is where we need funds.
- 5:37Speaker 1: We need organizations like the Breast Cancer Research Foundation that
- 5:41Speaker 1: funds studies like mine to be able to develop these
- 5:44Speaker 1: ideas that we have into something that can be turned
- 5:46Speaker 1: into a cancer drug for patients. Tell us a bit
- 5:48Speaker 1: about and I'm sure one of the reasons is that
- 5:50Speaker 1: you need money. And let's just underscore this that Dr
- 5:53Speaker 1: Nekhalid is that the Burnett's School of Biomedical Sciences. And again,
- 5:59Speaker 1: if you want to send some money or help our
- 6:01Speaker 1: research co right ahead, yes, please, yes, because we're what
- 6:04Speaker 1: we're doing is not only helping cancer, you know, survivors,
- 6:07Speaker 1: preventing cancer, um menistetic cancer is not just breast cancer.
- 6:11Speaker 1: There's so many cancers that you know, prostate, long liver,
- 6:15Speaker 1: all these ministhetic sites. What we do can help those
- 6:18Speaker 1: cancers as well. I just said that one the reason
- 6:20Speaker 1: it's probably costly. You're using you know, you're harnessing nanotechnology
- 6:25Speaker 1: for example. Tell us about some of the tools that
- 6:27Speaker 1: are that you're developing and using to do this groundbreaking
- 6:31Speaker 1: cancer search and discovery. Correct. So as we have a
- 6:34Speaker 1: drug and we have a target, we have to get
- 6:36Speaker 1: our drug to that target. And that's where now technology
- 6:39Speaker 1: comes in. We can use these small nanoparticles and they're
- 6:42Speaker 1: actually made of a polyester polymer. It's biodegradable, and we
- 6:46Speaker 1: can load up these little nanoparticles with our PEP tide
- 6:50Speaker 1: injected into you know, a patient, and have those nanta
- 6:53Speaker 1: particles find the tumors and deliver our pep tide to
- 6:55Speaker 1: those tumors. I wonder if you can describe also the
- 6:59Speaker 1: idea of finding the right doctor or the right treatment.
- 7:02Speaker 1: How does a patient go about doing this? Because it
- 7:06Speaker 1: seems as though you could go online, but you could
- 7:09Speaker 1: also end up in a place that is not necessarily
- 7:12Speaker 1: going to give you stuff that's useful. You've actually hit
- 7:15Speaker 1: a real problem in the field because you can have
- 7:18Speaker 1: a lot of clinical trials and academic centers, but there
- 7:21Speaker 1: are very few academic centers are accessible to all the patients.
- 7:25Speaker 1: If you live in you know, a major city, find
- 7:27Speaker 1: But what if you don't, how do you find these
- 7:29Speaker 1: these treatments, these clinics. Your own doctor is still the
- 7:32Speaker 1: best place to start with. But you know, we have
- 7:35Speaker 1: to fix that. We have to make these clinical trials
- 7:37Speaker 1: and these things in a way that's accessible to patients,
- 7:40Speaker 1: not just you know, those patients that happen to live
- 7:42Speaker 1: in an academic area. I'm still forging of those little
- 7:44Speaker 1: polyous and your polymers who are grabbing the peptides and
- 7:47Speaker 1: moving them around. It just it's just it's so it's
- 7:50Speaker 1: fascinating U as far as very top down, we're in
- 7:55Speaker 1: election year. If you were suddenly the czar of of
- 8:00Speaker 1: on BAT team finding a cure for cancer, what would
- 8:03Speaker 1: you say about the big system we have in place
- 8:06Speaker 1: that needs to be changed. It needs to move forward.
- 8:09Speaker 1: You're obviously mentioning money. Well, key is money. So first
- 8:13Speaker 1: we need to put more money into these ideas. There
- 8:16Speaker 1: there are thousands and thousands and thousands of scientists working
- 8:19Speaker 1: on cures. We need money to move forward so we
- 8:22Speaker 1: can develop our cures into break twos that can be
- 8:25Speaker 1: developed in technologies. But more importantly, once we've got the
- 8:29Speaker 1: technology in hand, we need to facilitate the process of
- 8:32Speaker 1: getting through you know, intellectual property. The patent process takes
- 8:36Speaker 1: way too long. I mean, waiting around for five years
- 8:39Speaker 1: to get a patent issue it so you can commercialize
- 8:42Speaker 1: your technology. That's way too much time to waste. We
- 8:45Speaker 1: need to work with FDA to get things to happen faster,
- 8:48Speaker 1: so we're not spending you know, eight to ten years
- 8:50Speaker 1: waiting through all the clinical trials and everything to get
- 8:52Speaker 1: to that point. So there's a lot of things that
- 8:54Speaker 1: have to work handaha with government, with regulatory agencies to
- 8:58Speaker 1: make things happen for the scientists who are developing new technologies.
- 9:02Speaker 1: These new technologies primarily being developed in the United States,
- 9:06Speaker 1: now all over the world. The United States is definitely
- 9:09Speaker 1: a leader. You know, over fifty of our universities are
- 9:12Speaker 1: working on basic science research that will lead to new
- 9:15Speaker 1: discoveries education. You've been on this road for some time obviously,
- 9:22Speaker 1: so much hard work to get to the level where
- 9:24Speaker 1: you are. If you're if you're advising some young person
- 9:28Speaker 1: about going into this field as a doctor, a scientist,
- 9:32Speaker 1: someone who is working on the technology or even selling,
- 9:36Speaker 1: I mean, what what advice would you give them at
- 9:37Speaker 1: this point? Is this a growing field? This is a
- 9:39Speaker 1: tough field. It's a tough field. But you follow your heart.
- 9:41Speaker 1: That's what I tell everybody. You love what you do.
- 9:44Speaker 1: You have to absolutely have a passion for what you
- 9:45Speaker 1: do and if you have have that, you'll be successful.
- 9:49Speaker 1: So I trained students in my lab, and I've got
- 9:50Speaker 1: students who work in by a technology technology transfer who
- 9:54Speaker 1: are doing academic like I'm doing myself. So I've trained
- 9:57Speaker 1: students who do all sorts of different things with their degrees.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Just follow your passion, follow your hearts, what I tell them.
- 10:03Speaker 1: We are in Florida, so I do want to ask
- 10:04Speaker 1: you a little bit about melanoma and carcinoma. You've got
- 10:09Speaker 1: to because this is, you know, it seems like something
- 10:11Speaker 1: that only you avoid when you're you know, young and
- 10:14Speaker 1: and and healthy, but it can come back and hurt
- 10:17Speaker 1: you later later on. What kind of advances or what
- 10:20Speaker 1: kind of treatments are are currently being worked on. Some
- 10:22Speaker 1: great immunotherapy is coming out there, teaching your body to
- 10:26Speaker 1: you know, function and kill the cancers themselves, enabling your
- 10:30Speaker 1: your body to defend yourself. And of course where your
- 10:32Speaker 1: sun screen and where your hat if you're in Florida.
- 10:35Speaker 1: It sounds like a good idea. I want to thank
- 10:36Speaker 1: you very much for spending time with us. Dr Annette
- 10:39Speaker 1: Khali is the ahead of the Cancer Division and Associate
- 10:42Speaker 1: professor the Burnett School of Biomedical Sciences at the University
- 10:47Speaker 1: of Central Florida College of Medicine. You're listening to Taking
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