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The Rita Panahi Show | 24 November · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On Scolds Australia. This is the Reader Panicky Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panini Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. The latest news poll spells more bad news
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  Speaker 2: for the coalition, but it also shows a challenger emerging.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Crichton. Michael Danbie will join you to cover today's
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  Speaker 2: top headlines. Susan Lee is targeting Chris Bowen, calling him
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  Speaker 2: a week link in the abanezy government. Professor in Pima
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  Speaker 2: will join me to discuss that the Great Josh Hammer
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  Speaker 2: will have the latest from the US, from seditious antics
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  Speaker 2: to Trump's twenty eight point peace plan for Russia and Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: And Kinzisko Phil will join you later on the hour
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  Speaker 2: to cover the latest entertainment and royal news, including the
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  Speaker 2: fallout for Megan Mark will recreating another iconic Princess diet
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  Speaker 2: moment and Left Is Losing It features Dansaki and Katie
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  Speaker 2: Curic who have totally lost the plot and they think
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  Speaker 2: that trump hating press corps in the US is actually
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  Speaker 2: far too soft on the President.
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  Speaker 3: That's a huge, huge problem because it's becoming more of
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  Speaker 3: a Kremlin esque press.
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  Speaker 4: Corps right and they've invited a lot of reporters from
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  Speaker 4: very right wing media outlets, and you're right.
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  Speaker 5: They usually say, I forget.
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  Speaker 4: There was one example like did you ever believe that
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  Speaker 4: you would be the peacemaker?
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  Speaker 2: But first, support for Andrew Hasty as the preferred opposition
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  Speaker 2: leader is rising as Parliament prepares for the final sitting
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  Speaker 2: week of the year. In bad news for the Coalition,
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  Speaker 2: the latest newsport shows Labor improving its dominant two party
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  Speaker 2: per therred vote, leading fifty eight to forty two percent.
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  Speaker 2: Core support for the coalition remains at twenty four percent,
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  Speaker 2: the lowest level since primary votes were first counted back
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  Speaker 2: in November eighty five. Voters were asked who should lead
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  Speaker 2: the coalition, and while current Leadersism Lee remains a favorite
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  Speaker 2: at twenty four percent, Andrew Hasty follows behind at fifteen
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  Speaker 2: seen percent, followed by Angus Taylor and nine, Tim Wilson
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  Speaker 2: on six percent, and Ted O'Brien on three percent. But
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  Speaker 2: the key figure there is that forty six percent of
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  Speaker 2: respondents didn't know who they would prefer. Joining me now
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  Speaker 2: is Senior Fellow and Chief Economists at the Institute of
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  Speaker 2: Public Affairs Adam Crichton and former Labor MP Michael Danby.
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  Speaker 2: Adam will start with you. Party sources of told The
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  Speaker 2: Australian that there is a possibility of a leadership challenge
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  Speaker 2: before the end of the year. Can we cope with
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  Speaker 2: another one?
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  Speaker 6: Well, look, personally, there's not I think it's too early.
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  Speaker 6: I think the party needs to sort out what it
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  Speaker 6: stands for. I don't think it's the jockey. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's the horse really, and they really need a clear
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  Speaker 6: set of policies. I mean, Susanly does deserve a big tick.
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  Speaker 6: I think for dumping that zero. I mean, it should
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  Speaker 6: have happened much earlier. It took far too long, but
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  Speaker 6: it has happened, and I think so, you know, she
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  Speaker 6: should be given a few months at least to try
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  Speaker 6: to take carriage of that very significant policy. You know, personally,
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  Speaker 6: I have doubts that she'll be able to that's my
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  Speaker 6: personal you but just you know, there's no need to
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  Speaker 6: change over Christmas. I don't think the election is still
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  Speaker 6: more than two years away.
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  Speaker 7: They need a.
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  Speaker 6: Policy on immigration first before they think about changing leaders.
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  Speaker 6: I think, I mean, you've got Clara Oeil out there
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  Speaker 6: at the moment, you know, giving these ridiculous tweets on housing,
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  Speaker 6: saying the only thing the federal government can do is
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  Speaker 6: build more houses to fix the crisis. Well no, no,
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  Speaker 6: we can cut immigration right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's another tick for Andrew Hasty, because remember he
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  Speaker 2: stepped down from the Opposition front bench over immigration because
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  Speaker 2: he did want to have some dramastic, dramatic changes. Michael,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the jockey and the horse. I think
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  Speaker 2: the policies obviously need to be clear, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if Susan Lee is the person to prosecute the
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  Speaker 2: case because her own personal principles and ideology aren't aligned
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  Speaker 2: with the direction the lives need to go. She would
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  Speaker 2: be one of the backers of net zero, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: of that, though now she has to argue against it.
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  Speaker 8: I think she's done relatively well since that change of
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  Speaker 8: policy in argument, which seems to me since I know Andrew,
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  Speaker 8: I hope he gets suspend at least one last idyllic
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  Speaker 8: summer back with his very young family in West Australia.
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  Speaker 8: I think that would be very good for him. I
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  Speaker 8: think it's I agree with Adam that it's too early
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  Speaker 8: for the Libs to make another move. You'd have, my goodness,
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  Speaker 8: all of the state leaders plus another cathartic move inside
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  Speaker 8: the Liberal Party. But it's the election was only in
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  Speaker 8: May Reata, we forget it. It's till May twenty eight.
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  Speaker 8: They've got ninety five to forty three. The Liberals would
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  Speaker 8: need to win twenty five seats, and I think Andrew
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  Speaker 8: hasty and as leader or whatever leader with it more
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  Speaker 8: cut through message would improve their result. But they're almost
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  Speaker 8: in an impossible position.
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  Speaker 9: I just agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that politics has changed, the twenty four hour
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  Speaker 2: news cycle has changed. You can have these dramatic shifts
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  Speaker 2: in the vote. You don't need to have two three
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  Speaker 2: terms to get back into power if you've had a
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  Speaker 2: landslide loss. And I think they need to do the work.
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  Speaker 2: I just think think they are living in dreamland if
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  Speaker 2: they think they can change leaders six months before an
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  Speaker 2: election and convince the Australian people that they're fit for offers.
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  Speaker 6: I just wanted to say that, you know, these these
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  Speaker 6: poles are really pretty meaningless.
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  Speaker 2: I think this are out.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, no one's paying attention.
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  Speaker 2: I mean forty six the third opposition leaders, you know.
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  Speaker 8: So what I mean it doesn't have with people losing
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  Speaker 8: and the Liberal Party, you were right, does have don
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  Speaker 8: Quixote Chris Bowen on this side too, So that could
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  Speaker 8: swing people y you know, back away from the windmills
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  Speaker 8: towards reality.
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  Speaker 2: Just one word answer, who would the would Labor Party
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  Speaker 2: fear most out of the contenders?
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  Speaker 8: They say Hasty, but they also say that he's the
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  Speaker 8: one that they want the most because he's the easiest
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  Speaker 8: to be It's rubbish. We don't know either way. It's
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  Speaker 8: three years away.
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  Speaker 2: It would at least give the Australian people a clear
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  Speaker 2: choice if we had a Hasty in there. Now, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about Victoria and pre listened to. Alan has called
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  Speaker 2: out the state's judiciary, saying they are too soft on crime.
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  Speaker 2: In an exclusive interview with The Herald's sign Premier, Alan
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  Speaker 2: claims her adult Time for adult crime policy was necessary
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  Speaker 2: because Victorian sentencing had been too soft. She said, it's
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  Speaker 2: sending a message to the brazen, violent offenders, it's sending
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  Speaker 2: a message to victims of crime that we've listened to
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  Speaker 2: those very clear views that have been put to me,
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  Speaker 2: and that there's not enough consequences. And yes, a message
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  Speaker 2: to the justice system as a whole. Well there you go, Adam.
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  Speaker 2: To me, this is just weapon grade HUTSPA. Labor appointed
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  Speaker 2: these soft on crime judges, uniformly left wing types, and
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  Speaker 2: they knew what their views were when they pointed them
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  Speaker 2: to these positions. How can they possibly feign surprise? Now, now, look,
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  Speaker 2: that is totally true.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the crisis is one of their making and
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  Speaker 6: now they're trying to fix it, so hopefully voters know that.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, this was always going to happen. I
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  Speaker 6: think it was a risk for the liberal opposition here.
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  Speaker 6: I think to focus too much on crime is you're
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  Speaker 6: always going to get a labor so called crackdown in
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  Speaker 6: the lead up to the election, and it's going to
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  Speaker 6: neutralize the issue, I think because most people out there
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  Speaker 6: they don't follow things as closely as as us, sadly,
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  Speaker 6: and they don't know it was Labour's bail laws in
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  Speaker 6: the first place.
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  Speaker 2: You know that triggered some of these problems.
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  Speaker 6: The other annoying thing about this too, is it you know,
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  Speaker 6: it kind of stigmatizes the whole status as if everyone
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  Speaker 6: is committing more crime and it's actually a very small
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  Speaker 6: section of the community that's actually doing the crime.
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  Speaker 2: But we are in a record breaking crime.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, those magistrates are created in the image of the
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  Speaker 8: people that appointed them, and that's where the problem comes from.
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  Speaker 8: The laws are all there if they want to be
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  Speaker 8: enforced or their nonsense virtue signaling, like the so called
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  Speaker 8: mask law. Well, now the police have to come up
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  Speaker 8: to some demonstrate and say, oh, could you please take
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  Speaker 8: off your mask, and of course they should just take
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  Speaker 8: it off them if they're involved in a riot or
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  Speaker 8: demonstration that's inciting violence.
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  Speaker 7: In the city.
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  Speaker 2: And when they appoint these members of the judiciary and
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  Speaker 2: labor have been very clever in the past and appointing
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  Speaker 2: some very young people to the bench because it's they're
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  Speaker 2: in that position for thirty years something.
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  Speaker 8: Not just magistrates, also found in court and higher positions.
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  Speaker 8: There are some people that you know, gossip amongst lawyers
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  Speaker 8: and barristers is, oh my goodness, that person exactly any qualifications,
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  Speaker 8: all qualifications.
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  Speaker 2: If they're highly ideological. It helps if they're young, because
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  Speaker 2: then they'll sit on the bench for thirty odd years.
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  Speaker 2: Then they're in the running. Now, this is just incredible footage.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to play you. You will see this many times,
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  Speaker 2: but every time I watch it, I'm enthralled all over again.
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  Speaker 2: Billionaire James Packer unleashing on former Victorian Premier Dan and
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  Speaker 2: who's calling him, amongst other things, human filth.
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  Speaker 7: Daniel Andrews is about my least favorite person in the world.
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  Speaker 1: I think Daniel Andrews not only ruined Victoria, he almost
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  Speaker 1: ruined my life. I couldn't speak more lowly of Daniel Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's human filth.
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  Speaker 5: Jesus sounds like a Joe Aston column.
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  Speaker 7: There you go.
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  Speaker 10: I hope he sues me.
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  Speaker 9: I hope he sues me. That's just incredible.
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  Speaker 2: That was on Joe Aston's podcast, Adam. I wonder what
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  Speaker 2: he really thinks that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, it was great. I just wish more Victorians
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  Speaker 6: would also. I realized that that's a fair characterization in
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  Speaker 6: my view, given the state that he's left. The state
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  Speaker 6: need I mean just to take the balance sheet one
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  Speaker 6: hundred ninety four billion laws of debt, I mean basically
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  Speaker 6: can't be paid off. And he said that, and James
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  Speaker 6: Packett does know his way around a balance sheet. He's
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  Speaker 6: seen the state finances. They are very very bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: whoever wins an nex selection has a really big problem
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  Speaker 6: on that hands.
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  Speaker 2: Well, James obviously has some personal grievances with I think
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  Speaker 2: some of the laws that were changed whilst selling Crown
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  Speaker 2: when it was in the midst of finalizing a deal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why that happened the way he did.
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  Speaker 2: But more broadly, for a politician who were told was
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  Speaker 2: just a master politician, hugely popular, Dan Andrews is gets
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  Speaker 2: a hostile reception just about everywhere he goes. From what
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  Speaker 2: I can work out, I'm constantly getting reports from people
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  Speaker 2: saying they saw him being heckled or some harsh words spoken,
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  Speaker 2: even in his favorite horns. And I won't name them
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  Speaker 2: here because I don't want to invite more aggression his way.
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  Speaker 2: But I can't think of another politician in this country
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  Speaker 2: who would be treated like that for the.
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  Speaker 8: Primary really get into a golf club either.
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  Speaker 9: Is that too?
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  Speaker 8: I think the hatred stems from the harshness of the
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  Speaker 8: COVID lockdown in Victoria, which was probably the worst in
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  Speaker 8: the world. But the thing that I'm not upset about
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  Speaker 8: how he affected packet deal, but I am upset about
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  Speaker 8: the way he defamed Australia by standing on that military
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  Speaker 8: parade to Kim Jong un. That's a picture that should
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  Speaker 8: live in.
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  Speaker 10: In for me.
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  Speaker 8: I can't forgive and I don't think Australians will forgive
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  Speaker 8: Dan Andrews for that ever, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's been revealed Michael that Anthony Albernezi Penny Wong none
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  Speaker 2: of their staffers approached Dan Andrews before that Chinese Communist
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  Speaker 2: Party War commemoration and that lengthy handshake he had with Jijiping.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably going to set him up for life. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't already set up for live. I'm sure there'll be
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  Speaker 2: so many in China who would be looking to him
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  Speaker 2: for business opportunities perhaps, but it seems like incredible that
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  Speaker 2: something that defied diplomatic convention, it didn't seem to concern
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  Speaker 2: the Albanese government or DEFAT D.
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  Speaker 8: There's a systemic problem he all the premiers and he's
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  Speaker 8: the worst. Dan Andrews don't have serious foreign policy advisors,
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  Speaker 8: and the Chinese Communist Party is trying to deal with
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  Speaker 8: subnational states and provinces so they can align one against
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  Speaker 8: the national interest and DEFAT and whoever is the government
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  Speaker 8: of the day should see that all of these premiers,
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  Speaker 8: rather than using people from the Communist parties United Front
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  Speaker 8: as their China advisor, have someone from DEFAT who represents
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  Speaker 8: the national interest and.
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  Speaker 2: Van Andrews signed up to the Belton Roads initiative.
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  Speaker 9: Adam.
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  Speaker 2: The Australian government had to change the law and junk
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  Speaker 2: that deal, but he was the only one. No other
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  Speaker 2: premia signed up, no other The links there certainly trouble
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  Speaker 2: many Victorians, but it's ancient history now. I guess, well, well, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where is it. It's not we don't
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  Speaker 2: use that phrase anymore road.
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  Speaker 6: But the Otheran government was over there is leg The
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  Speaker 6: premier was there for two weeks basically trying to get
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  Speaker 6: investment into the suburban railway.
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  Speaker 9: And who knows what.
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  Speaker 8: Who's financing our debt though I mean that it's gone
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  Speaker 8: up and up and up the foreign part of the debt.
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  Speaker 8: But who are those foreigners? I bet you this is
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  Speaker 8: sort of capital Paul Beijing has involved.
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  Speaker 2: With a lot of it, So not ancient history. After
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  Speaker 2: Michael Daby, Adam Christ and thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: your time.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks reader.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is leading geologist and author Professor Ian
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  Speaker 2: plymer I. Environment Minister Murray Watt will be watering down
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  Speaker 2: heavy penalties for businesses that violate labors revamped nature laws
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  Speaker 2: is trying to reach a deal with the Coalition instead
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  Speaker 2: of the Greens to pass these environmental reforms in the
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  Speaker 2: final sitting week of the year. In the legislation is
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  Speaker 2: intended to accelerate approvals for renewable projects and resource projects
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  Speaker 2: and establish a new environmental watchdog. Do you see it
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  Speaker 2: delivering all that or not at all?
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  Speaker 7: When the government starts talking about penalties, you know they're
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  Speaker 7: not concerned about investment. What the government should be doing
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  Speaker 7: is trying to encourage people to invest in this country
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  Speaker 7: by making it far quicker and easier. For approval for
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  Speaker 7: the roy Hill mine in Western Australia, four nine hundred
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  Speaker 7: and fifty approvals were needed for an iron ore mine
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  Speaker 7: in an iron ore mining district. Now that is just insane.
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  Speaker 7: Last week when I was in Saudi, I was talking
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  Speaker 7: to the Minister for Minds and he said, well, you
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  Speaker 7: will need eleven approvals in this country and it's a
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  Speaker 7: one stop shop. That is the difference between Australia and
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  Speaker 7: a country trying to grow their economy. So what he's
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  Speaker 7: doing in talking about penalties, he's immediately saying I'm not
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  Speaker 7: focusing on attracting investment. I'm focusing on stopping investment and
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  Speaker 7: hurting who we think.
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  Speaker 2: Of the bad guys.
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  Speaker 7: And by the way, thank you for keeping the country alive.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you the coal mines, thank you the iron ore mind.
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  Speaker 2: This is just nuts.
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  Speaker 7: He should be looking at ways to make it quicker,
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  Speaker 7: easier and cheaper to start producing and creating jobs.
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  Speaker 2: Astonishing difference there eleven approvals versus four nine hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty needed for the project you mentioned. They're astonishing. Now
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  Speaker 2: the Australian newspaper has revealed that oppositionally to Susan Lee
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  Speaker 2: is going to be launching a Get Bowen campaign and
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be targeting the government's energy policy. Susan
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  Speaker 2: Lee has accused Bowen of being a part time minister
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  Speaker 2: after it was announced he would become the president of
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  Speaker 2: COP thirty one climate change summit in Turkey next year,
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  Speaker 2: and senior Coalisi and sources told the Australian Labor is
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  Speaker 2: badly exposed and Bowen is the weak link. I mean
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  Speaker 2: we could have told them that some time ago. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I think we did well.
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  Speaker 7: We certainly did. This program's been talking about that for
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  Speaker 7: years now. The government should have been attacked years ago.
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  Speaker 7: The week Link was bown. The week Link was also
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  Speaker 7: the Prime minister. He promised US two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 7: five dollars. Now that for me is a couple of
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  Speaker 7: decent bottles of wine. I want it. He promised this. Now,
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  Speaker 7: if we can't have a prime minister stick to his promises,
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  Speaker 7: and he promised that almost one hundred times, then he
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  Speaker 7: is able to be attacked absolutely vigorously by the opposition.
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  Speaker 7: The opposition should be targeting really only one or two
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  Speaker 7: things debt and the cost of living. And the cost
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  Speaker 7: of living includes the energy costs, the energy which is unreliable.
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  Speaker 7: It's costing us more and more and more. And we
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  Speaker 7: keep getting told that renewables are the cheapest form of energy.
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  Speaker 7: That just just wait seventeen hundred million years and you
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  Speaker 7: will have cheap energy. Now, we once had cheap energy
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  Speaker 7: in this country. It came from coal. We have destroyed
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  Speaker 7: our coal industry and we wonder why our energy is expensive.
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  Speaker 7: So I think the opposition should have been attacking the
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  Speaker 7: government years ago on these weaknesses and just not letting up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they finally have abandoned at zero, so they have
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to.
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  Speaker 9: Do that now.
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  Speaker 2: To Tasmanian asbestos has been discovered in a wind turbine
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  Speaker 2: at a chin Chinese built wind farm in Tasmania. The
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  Speaker 2: hazardous material was recently found in brake pads in the
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  Speaker 2: tower lifts at the Cattle Hill wind farm in This
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  Speaker 2: is terribly worrying. And this same Chinese company has provided
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  Speaker 2: turbines to similar wind farms in Queensland, New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: and Victoria.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I'm not surprised. We know that these wind turbine
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  Speaker 7: blades have got very dangerous complex organic chemicals in them,
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  Speaker 7: like bis fennol a. That's one of these permanent chemicals
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  Speaker 7: that gets into the soils, gets into the waterways. There
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  Speaker 7: are also heavy metals that come out of these blades.
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  Speaker 7: We also have abrasion of these blades, and now we
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  Speaker 7: have asbestos. Now, if this was any other industry, like
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  Speaker 7: say a manufacturing industry or a mine or a farm,
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  Speaker 7: the government would immediately step in and say, okay, you
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  Speaker 7: and the wind industry are paying for an independent organization
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: to look at them out of asbestos, heavy metals and
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: complex business chemicals in your machinery, and we will decide
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: then how much you are fined and whether you can
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: continue business. Now they find other businesses, why can't they
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: do it to the sacred wind turbine industry, so we
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: are only reaping what we sew. And we know that
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: these goods that we buy from China are pretty shoddy.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: We know it. The solar panels also leak out heavy metals.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: We also know they leak out complex organic compounds. We've
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: been saying this for years on this program, and finally
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: someone has woken up to the fact that there's yet
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: another component in there which is incredibly dangerous now that
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: is asbestos. We started to get rid of asbestos in
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: this country fifty years ago, but the Chinese are just
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: dumping asbestos and other toxins into Australia in our wind turbines.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And they're building these solar farms, these wind farms sometimes
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: on fertile farming land. I mean they It is beyond
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: me how this has been allowed to happen. Professor Enbimer,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: thank you for your time.
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: Thank you.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Stilting Khama, Lefty is Losing Ed plus Trump's twenty eight
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: point peace steal for Russia and Ukraine. Josh Hammer will
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: have the latest. You're watching the Reader Paney Show, and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: it's time for Lefty is Losing It. Let's start with
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: some weapon grade crazy before elevating to something a little
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: more sophisticated. But first the crazy. This next clip features
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Katie Currig. That's the former NBC anchor. You know, the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: gal who thought it was a good idea to dine
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Epstein after he was convicted after it became
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: clear that he was a filthy pedophile. Well, here is
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Katie with galpal MSNBC anchor Jensaki.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: More and more of the questions in there are by.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Are by people who are not asking about news that
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: the American people cares about, you know, putting out conspiracy theories.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: They're people who and they're getting a lot of the questions.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Conspiracy theories, she says, like the Russian collusion hoax. You
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and the Democrats are the propagandas in the media pushed
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: relentlessly for four years. Imagine how crazy and warped your
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: view of the world is if you think Donald Trump
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: is getting an easy ride from the media. Now, let's
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: hear the ladies turn up the hyperbole.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: That's a huge, huge problem because it's becoming more of
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: a Kremlin esque press.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Corps right and they've invited a lot of reporters from
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: very right wing media outlets and you're right, They usually say,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I forget there was one example like, did you ever
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: believe that you would be the peacemaker?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: God forbid that the White House Press Corps would be
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: representative of the country and not exclusively filled with hard
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: left activists, And I love that. The most egregious examples
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you can find of a terrible question is what about
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Trump being a peacemaker? Katie the man did oversee eight
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: piece deals in his second term. It hasn't even been
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a year. Now, let's hear from two other young ladies
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: who display similar intellect and judgment.
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: To Jen and Katie, seem very misogynistic realistically, So what
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: is misogynye?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So why are you using words.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: That you don't even know the definition? But I don't
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: know what I've meant.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: What does misogynistic mean?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: But just say more what you're calling with?
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: So the reason I said it is guess again this
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: on the the.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Cause you hear it on the internet. No, bro, are
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you stipid the nerve to call him stupid after that performance?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: The American education system has failed those two. Maybe if
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they read a book or two instead of watching Mel
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Robbins videos on Instagram, they'd be a little bit smart.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And talking about mel Robbins, she made an appearance on
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Bill Maher's program, and sadly, she's a typical ill informed,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: awful that's affluent, white female lefty like.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I see so many people are upset about him building
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a ballroom. I could give it. I don't. We're not
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: paying for it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: She really should stick to giving terrible advice to sad
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: girls on the internet because she clearly knows nothing about politics.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: How does she miss the most pertinent fact about the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: bore room that it's not taxpayer funded. And let's stick
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: with Bill Maher, who gave this blistering assessment of Larry David,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the once funny, once genius comic who has allowed his
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: trumped derangement to run a mark.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: This is so childish, so purely emotional that people look
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: at all butt hurt because I had dinner with them,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you know, because he's hitler, Except he's not so unhelpful
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and dumb. Trump is the most supportive president Israel and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the Jews ever had. You know, every year I used
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to ask Larry David to do real time and he'd
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: always say, Bill, I can't. I'm not smart enough about
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: politics to do your show. Yeah, I get that now.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: You know what, Bill Maher is proof that there is
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: a cure for TDS. He was among the worst offenders, folks.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: He would sit right there with nutbags like Robert de Niro,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: give them a platform to spew their nonsense, and he
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: would back it up. He would make the most outrageous
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: claims about Trump. But though he remains a lefty and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: he's also a Democrat, still he's no longer raving like
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: a lunatic. So growth now to a video that has
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: caused all sorts of uproar because the President correctly labeled
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: it seditious. Here we have Democrats calling for members of
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the military to break the chain of command and disobey orders.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to play you ten seconds of this
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: nonsense right now. The threats to our constitution aren't just
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: coming from a road, but from right here at home.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Our laws are clear.
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: You can refuse illegal orders.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: You can refuse illegal orders now. Typically CNN anchor Jake
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Tappa has joined the Democrats in claiming that Donald Trump
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: is giving illegal orders to the US military and that
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: individuals could be charged for following those orders. And of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: course He's far more upset by Trump reacting to the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: sedition than the sedition itself.
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: President Trump's wildly inappropriate and potentially dangerous call for six
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: members of Congress to potentially be executed or hanged because
• 24:53
  Speaker 12: they issued a video reminding members of the military that
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: they do not have to carry out illegal orders. This
• 25:00
  Speaker 12: is over the FAA Act because Trump's reaction was so
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: out of control that this issue of illegal orders is
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: not a new one. There's this new movie out starring
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: Russell Crowe called Nuremberg.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I just love that after having a mass meltdown about
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a so called insurrection, Democrats are now campaigning for an
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: insurrection quite openly too. And what about Jake Tappa referencing
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Nuremberg the movie because his dim audience doesn't know the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: actual history. Let's see it now from one of these
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Democrats who call for members of the military to commit treason. Essentially,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: here is Alissa Slotkin. I wonder if she can name
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: one illegal order that President Trump has issued.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal order?
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: to Venezu.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: What did she say, to my knowledge, I'm not aware
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of things that are illegal. There you go. But she
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: and her treason as collaborators felt the need to create
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a very well produced video calling on members of the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: military to disobey lawful orders, to break the chain of command.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And it gets worse when she's pressed for examples. She
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: claims she was just talking broadly, and then she really
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: loses it and starts scrambling. She mentions Nuremberg and even
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a Tom Cruise film.
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: It does imply that the president is having illegal orders,
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: which you have not seen.
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: I think for us, it was just a statement widely,
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: right I don't. I mean, look, you going back to Nuremberg,
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: right that, Well, they told me to do it. That's
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: why I murdered people.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Is not an excuse.
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: If you look at popular culture, Lily, you watch you
• 26:51
  Speaker 13: know a few good men like we have plenty of
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: examples since World War Two in Vietnam where people were
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: told to follow illegal orders and they did it and
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: they were prosecuted for it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But you just said that President Trump had not issued
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: any illegal orders.
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: That would be the key.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Point joining me, now, is Newswork, Senior Editor at Large
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: at Article three Projects, Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh, this
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: whole campaign by the Democrats has now been turned around
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to attack Donald Trump because he said what they did
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: was seditious, tantamount to treason. How do you see this?
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: Well?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Read it?
• 27:30
  Speaker 11: There's a lot to go a pack here. First of all,
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: can we forever dispel the notion that Alyssa slock and
• 27:34
  Speaker 11: Mark Kelly and these other notable Democratic leather officials or
• 27:38
  Speaker 11: anything other than essentially indistinguishable from Jasmine Crockett, aoc in
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: the most radical left flank. You know, they were sold
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: Senator is Kelly of Arizona, Senator Slocket, who we just
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: saw in Michigan. They were sold as moderate statesmen.
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: There They're not.
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: These are radicals, with very very very few exceptions. John
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: Feerman comes to mind, but they are really few and
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: from between. Their party is from soup to knuts, from
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: top to bottom, filled with revolutionaries, with genuine Marxist style
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: Western revolutionary surgeons who are here to topple the established order.
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: And that is what this insane video, this utterly insane
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: propagandistic video is attempting to do, It absolutely is incitement
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: to insurrection. That's what I called it on my show,
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: because that's exactly what it is. They are telling you
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: not to follow the chain command. The chain of commands
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: RITA is the sinaquon non of a military in a
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: Western style democracy. The chain of command is what separates
• 28:31
  Speaker 11: an active military ultimately subordinate to playing clothes officials. In America,
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: that would be the commander in chief. That's what separates
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: us in civilization from the barbarians. And they are cutting
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: at the very core of that. They are playing with
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: absolute fire here. Now, if they actually had one or
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: two examples that they could point to and say, oh,
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: according to our well detailed legal research, according to this
• 28:51
  Speaker 11: Supreme Court case, acordant to this president, blah blah blah
• 28:53
  Speaker 11: blah blah, this actually is illegal. Fine, maybe let's have
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: that conversation. I'm a lawyer. I'm very happy to have
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: that conversation.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But you just he she can't name a single one.
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: She literally cannot name a single possible order here.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: So what are you doing.
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: You're literally encouraging the armed men and women of this country,
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: in our volunteer military, to disobey the chain of command
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: to get court martialed or potentially worse for that, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: then you're not gonna have your back because you can't
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: even think of an example on the furp of there.
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: This is so insanely crazy, Rita. And I guess the
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: final point that I'll end this filibuster on is I
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: will say this, Ever since the Butler Pennsylvania near assassination
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: of Donald Trump that happens almost a year and a
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: half ago, now, we've been waiting for the radical left
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: to tone down their comparisons about how Trump is a Nazi,
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: Trump is Hitler, Trump is Stalin. In that clip she's
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: talking about Nuremberg. Oh my god, I mean how she's
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: literally making the Nazi comparison there. They've learned nothing. They
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: have learned absolutely nothing, and most maddening to me as
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: an American patriot, they are putting our armed men and
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: women in our armed forces in harm's way by telling
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: them to commit insurrection without having their back. It's disgusting,
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: is discription, and at bare minimum, they should be expelled
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: from the Senate. Frankly, these reprehensible hacks, if nothing worse
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: than them.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And I also missed the point that if you actually
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: did live in a fascist dictatorship, which they think they do.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't be able to produce that video. You wouldn't
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: be able to post it all over social media and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: get mainstream media coverage. Much of the mainstream media coverage
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: has been positive for those Democrats. What do you say
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: to the likes of say Jake Tapper, who has joined
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: them in suggesting that members of the military are in
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: danger of committing crimes by following illegal orders. He also
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: mentioned Nuremberg and Vietnam. He seems to be mirroring the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: same arguments and putting this suggestion that the US military
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: right now is committing some sort of war crimes or
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: illegal acts.
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, look, Jee Tapper is quintessential Trump drain syndrome left
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: wing commentator in the United States. This this is someone
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: who was upon a time was maybe center left. Jake Tapper,
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: once upon time was was not quite as far left
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: as as let's call it a medi Hassan or a
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: joyless joy read or someone like that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: There.
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: But but Jake Tapper drank the TDS kool aid with
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: every ounce of what the TDS kool aid consists of,
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: and at this point he's basically indistinguishable from that It's
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: sad because Jake is a man who really ought to
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: know better. But if Jake didn't know better than then
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: what he would realize is that the actual crime that
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: could that that could happen here is if you were
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: in the chain of command and you simply do not
• 31:34
  Speaker 11: follow the chain of command. Again, I cannot emphasize this enough.
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: I did not serve in the US r M forces,
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: but literally all my veteran friends who did emphasize time
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: and time again that the chain of command from the
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: commander in chief to the Chairman adjoined Cheese, the generals,
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: all the way on down. This is how the military functions.
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: And you play with absolute fire when you start to
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: play with them. If there is an order that you
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: were ordered to do that you that for whatever reason
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: you genuinely feel like you cannot do. There are remedies
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: available for you. You can seek a court martial, You
• 32:03
  Speaker 11: can go to a military court. We have military law
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: and military tribunials. There are various options to you. What
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: you cannot do is to just say, oh, my hands
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: are tired because you are illegal. You are not in
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: any position to do that. We have military judge do that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: There.
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: If Jake Tapper knew a damn thing about the law,
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: then he would know that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about California. Who's going to take over
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the reins from Gavin Newsom. It's going to be a Democrat,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and we know that it's a one party state. We've
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: had the front runner, Katie get out of my shot, Porter.
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: Stick could lose.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You're out of my shot, she imploded a few weeks
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: back during a friendly CBS interview. Was quite an extraordinary performance.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And we've got another big name contender, Josh Eric Swollwell,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he has some bold ideas of his own.
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: I want us to build a voot by phone.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Every California vote by phone.
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: Yeah, we can do our taxes, do our you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: our make our healthcare appointments, uh, you know, make essentially
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: your do your banking online.
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: You should be able to vote by pune.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Josh, Could it work? I've heard dumber ideas. Maybe not today,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: but I've certainly heard dumber ideas. Could Americans cast their
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: vote on their fine.
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: Reader?
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: Eric Eric Swall someone whose IQ is one and a
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: half standard deviations below the mean on a good day.
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: On a worse day, it happens to be worse than that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: He's also quite possibly a Chinese spy. Let's not forget
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: the whole affair. Feng Fang. Feng Fang is a name
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: that many of us here have not forgotten. This or
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: this was the Chinese honey pot that Eric Swall was
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: was found to be romantically involved with a number of
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: years ago, and that has stuck with many of us
• 33:47
  Speaker 11: ever since that he has never offered a square explanation
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: for that, that that that entire scandal. I have no
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: idea what the hank Eric Swall thinks that he has
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: accomplished to put him in a position to run for
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: governor of the most populous day in the country. But
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: then again, did O, Katie Porter and Frankly did a
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: virtually all these other candidate who are putting their hat
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: into the ring. As far as notion of voting by phone. Frankly,
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: I think that America's elections are insecure enough as it is.
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: I would not be one to you necessarily want to
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: add an additional layer of insecurity. I think that there
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: are enough legitimate concerns, and if you look at the polls,
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: there are enough people who say that they do not
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: necessarily fully trust that their votes are going to be
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: cast and tagulated there. I mean, what could possibly go
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: wrong by relying on AT and T in a Verizon
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: and the various mobile cell phone providers to cast your vote?
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: I mean, I can think approximately a million to two
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: million things that could possibly go wrong with that picture there.
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: So no, that strikes me as yet another quind essentially
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: really really stupid Eric Swawll idea, which again is part
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: of the course because he's a pretty dumb man.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: As the case, I just can't believe he's in the running.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: You would think the entire Fang Fang affair, the fact
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: that he was in a serious relationship with a Chinese
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party spy, would to disqualify you from any
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: sort of public office for life. But no, here is
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: He's still wanting to be governor of California now. Secretary
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of State Marco Rubio said earlier today that he was
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: very optimistic that negotiators could reach a deal to end
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the war between Russia and Ukraine. Rubio had met today
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: with delegate with delegation from Kiev in Geneva, and he
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: said the issues that must be resolved were not insurmountable.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Now here from President Trump, He's got a twenty eight
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: point proposal, but he has a number of provisions that
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Ukraine has previously rejected.
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: We're trying to get it engined.
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: One way or the other.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We happen to get it engined.
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: So you want to it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: Well that he can continue, that he can continue the
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: fighters with.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: The heart out Josh.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: He said. If President Zelenski rejects the plan, then he
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: can continue to fight his little heart at and he
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: wants an answer from Kiev by Thursday.
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: Look, so basseed of what I've seen from this plan
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: read the broad outlines of it are something that I
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: could see myself getting behind. There's one thing that I'm
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: less confident of. But Ukraine's gonna have to give up territory. Okay,
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: I've been saying that bluntly for at least two years now.
• 36:24
  Speaker 11: Many of us have been saying that blunly for years now.
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: Ukraine is not going to gain back territory. To this day,
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: no one has put a credible plan on the table
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: to show how Ukraine is going to in a post
• 36:34
  Speaker 11: war world, how you can convince Russia to simply give
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: up territory that it has actually acquired over the past
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: couple of years, So that to me seems like a
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: non starter. You have the typical hacks in the left
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: wing media of the New York Times, MSMAC, the hardcore
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: Slava Ukraine crowd. They're all saying, oh my god, this
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: is a Pudin plant plan they're giving away.
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: No.
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: I mean, Trump is a realist. He lives in reality.
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: So that is what's going on here when it comes
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: to some territorial concessions from Ukraine in the Eastern Ukraine
• 37:00
  Speaker 11: region of the Dombas, the Crimean peninsul and so forth.
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: A part of the plan that I am not certain
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: of yet, and it's going to depend on the details,
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: is this NATO Article five style security guarantee. Now, the
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: part that I think I could be willing to get
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: behind personally is that if I understand it correctly, there
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: is a ten year time limit on it for now.
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: It's not a perpetuity commitment, if I understanding correctly, similar
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: to NATO Article five. However, if Russia were to actually
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: then invade in the next ten years, which they probably
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: wouldn't to be clear if that guarantee were in place,
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: but if they would, there you're committeed US troops, British
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: troops French streets. I mean, that's potentially a very serious
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: thing there, right, So I would like to hear more
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: details about that before I offered it my enthusiastic support.
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: But based on what I can see right now, I
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: think that I think that it is clever and it does,
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: broadly speaking, map out with what I've been thinking a
• 37:48
  Speaker 11: possible piece deal could look like for the past.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Couple of years.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Now, now let's talk about the Epstein of files and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: House Republicans, including James Coma. I have ordered Bill and
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton to testify next month about their ties to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the convicted pedophile. And it was a staunch Democrat as well,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. We forget that Josh. The Clinton's legal team
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: has earlier this month said their clients were willing to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: make a written statement. What are the chances they will
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: actually appear and testify in person?
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: Oh, I think close to zero. I think they're going
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: to plead the fifth until eternity. Frankly, on this one,
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: I don't think.
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: I don't think.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: I don't think slick Willy wants anything near a microphone
• 38:34
  Speaker 11: when it comes to ask point blank, why were you
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: on Jeffrey Epstein's playing the little Leaded Express over thirty times.
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: I look, I mean, I don't think Bill Clinton will
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: get anywhere near a microphone. Hillary Clinton has been making
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: some of the media arounds here recently for god knows
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: what reasons. I don't really know exactly what he's trying
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: to do, other than to maybe griff to get another
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: multimillion dollar book dealer or something like that. But maybe
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: there's a world in which he'll rely could appear before
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: the microphone, because she just has an utterly insatiable appetite,
• 38:59
  Speaker 11: even at the late stage of her feckless career, to
• 39:02
  Speaker 11: sip before the cameras in preem But I put the
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: odds there pretty low as well. To be honest with you,
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: I think they will plead the fifth, they will do
• 39:08
  Speaker 11: some statement there, But your broader point is important. Jeffrey
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: Epstein was a hardcore Democrat. He was a hardcore Democrat.
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: He hated Trump, by the way, That's why he was
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: texting Stacy Plaskett, the US Virgin Islands Congress Woolman during
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: that twenty nineteen Michael Cohen here. He was literally texting
• 39:23
  Speaker 11: her get Trump talking points in real time. He despised
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: Donald Trump because Donald Trump kicked him outamar Lago. Because
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: Donald Trump became a very successful person without getting involved
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: in horrific pedophilia and child sex trafficking operations, unlike Jeffrey
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: Epstein there. So he was a hardcore Democrat there. And frankly,
• 39:40
  Speaker 11: if Chuck Schumer, Hakim Jeffries and wrote Keahona, all these
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: Democrats had an immorsal an ounce of intellectual consistency there.
• 39:47
  Speaker 11: They will be asking all the questions ten times as
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: much when it comes to Bill Clinton as they are
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: with respect to Donald Trump.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And Michael Wolfe, was also a vehement anti Trumper,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: said in a recent interview that Jeffrey Epstein believed that
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump may have been the one who first alerted
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: authorities to what was happening at his property, and he
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: hated him ever since. So this whole narrative and the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: fact that he chucked him out of marri Lago back
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. But you mentioned Hillary Clinton.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: She does have an insatiable appetite for attention. And she
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: did another appearance and she explained that she's been daydreaming
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: about a Goodbye Trump announcement.
• 40:32
  Speaker 14: You know what this reminds me of as I wish
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: that there could be like a huge national sound system
• 40:38
  Speaker 14: and we would all wake up and they attention.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: We have found the problem, and we have solved that
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: he has gone. She is still around. But if she's
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: still a force to be reckoned with, we hear from
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: her a lot. We don't hear much from Bill Clinton
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: these days. Why are these appearances happening to the Democrats
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: think she still has some sway with the American electorate.
• 41:06
  Speaker 11: It's a very good question. I don't claim to fully
• 41:08
  Speaker 11: understand the phenomenon myself. I, even subjected to the various
• 41:12
  Speaker 11: tortures of watching the Clinton crime family, do these interviews
• 41:15
  Speaker 11: for my entire adult life rita and I can't get
• 41:17
  Speaker 11: them off my TV screen quickly enough. I suspect that
• 41:20
  Speaker 11: there are many folks here in the United States who
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: feel the same way that I do.
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: The Clintons were a famously moderate Democratic family. They have
• 41:28
  Speaker 11: moved considerably far to the left as the party has
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: moved further and further to the left, just to try
• 41:33
  Speaker 11: to fit in with the times. They must clearly think
• 41:36
  Speaker 11: that Hillary offers something I guess superstar power if nothing
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: else there I mean Hillary Clinton and Broack Obama, I
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: suppose to this day are the two most famous Democrats alive, right,
• 41:48
  Speaker 11: I mean, I'm not sure who else will be. It's
• 41:50
  Speaker 11: definitely not Joe Bien, that's for sure. So I mean,
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: those are the two who I guess still offer some
• 41:54
  Speaker 11: semblance of quote unquote star power. But look, Rita, I mean,
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: the Clinton's had I've been dealing with crimes here for
• 42:01
  Speaker 11: almost a half century, literally going back to Whitewater in
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: Arkansas in the late nineteen seventies. I mean, there are
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: so many skeletons in that family's closet. And I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: as American people, especially start talking about Epstein a little more,
• 42:11
  Speaker 11: a lot of this Clinton related Epstein drama is going
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: to start to percolate more and more of the service there.
• 42:16
  Speaker 11: So maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm a little pollyanna ish,
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: let's say, but but I think that there's a chance
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: that the Epstein thing, coming as front and center as
• 42:25
  Speaker 11: it is about to come here in the United States,
• 42:26
  Speaker 11: could lead to Hillary entering stage left. And the boy,
• 42:29
  Speaker 11: could that not come soon and quickly enough?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: That could just be wishful thinking there, Josh, But we'll
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: watch and say Josh Habba, thank you so much for
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: your time. Thank you still to come. And Meghan Markle
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: recreates another iconic Princess di image, Kinsey's Schofield We'll have.
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: The details, Welcome back.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is celebrity and world commentator Kinsey Schofield.
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: Kinsey.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Meghan Markol has come under fire for recreating Diana's famous
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: cross legged photoshoot for Half as Bizarre and Kinsey, this
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: isn't the first time she has recreated some of Diana's
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: most iconic looks. I don't know what running app.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Oh, yes you do.
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: You know when someone lacks a clear sense of identity
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: or direction, they start to lean on imitation, And Meghan
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: is such a polarizing figure she must think cars playing
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: Princess Diana will help her absorb some of the warmth
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: people still feel for Die. But Megan's Harper's Bizarre spread
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: doesn't feel like inspiration. It feels like replication. The parallels
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: to Princess Diana's Vanity Fair Chute are so deliberate that
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: they come off as vulgar, and it raises real questions
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: about how Prince Harry copes with seeing his wife recreate
• 43:56
  Speaker 10: images tied to his mother's final years, and still has
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: not established an identity of her own. You know, without
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: a strong intercompass, it becomes much easier to borrow someone
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: else's legacy instead of building your own. And the Harper's
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: bizarre piece underscores a large running issue with Meghan's public presentation.
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: There is no sense of purpose, no clear message. It
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: feels like someone sharing something. It feels less like someone
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: sharing something meaningful and more like someone trying to stay
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: in the spotlight for the sake of it.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I tell you, if Diana was around, none of this
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: would be happening. I think she would have nipped this
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Meghan Michael business in the bud early on. She would
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: have seen her coming from a million miles away. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: it seems like the late Prince Philip maybe saw her coming.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: He allegedly gave Prince Harry a warning about getting married
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: to Meghan Michael ahead of the wedding in twenty eighteen.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: The interaction was detailed in royal biographer Andrew Lowney's book
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: entitled The Duke of Edinburgh allegedly told her Harry one
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them, Kinsey, that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: would be hilarious if it was accurate, and I've got
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: a feeling it is accurate.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard that from multiple sources.
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: And according to royal author Ingrid Seward, Prince Philip privately
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: referred to Meghan as the Duchess of Windsor, comparing her
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: to Wallace Simpson. And you know, she stresses that Prince
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: Philip warned the Queen to be cautious of Megan. There's
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: also the royal butler Grant Harold's account of Philip saying
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: to Queen Elizabeth, thank f that's over as they left
• 45:33
  Speaker 10: Harry and Meghan's wedding. So, I mean, I think it's
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: pretty confident that Prince Philip wasn't a fan.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Now we're hearing more about what went on at Jeffrey
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Epstein's infamous party at his New York mansion in twenty ten.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Former mbsc an Katie Couric sat around a table with
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Epstein for cocktails and lasagna, yep choosing to break bread
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: with a convicted set offender, and they apparently talked about
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: international politics. Of course they did, Kinsey, what else can
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: you tell us?
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, she's also was teasing Prince Andrew at the time.
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: Andrew Mount Mountain Windsor now about William and Catherine's wedding,
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: asking if she could have a cell phone number so
• 46:16
  Speaker 10: she could call him during the ceremony.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, to your point, I just want to remind.
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: Everybody to remember that visual of Katie curt cozied up
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: to Jeffrey Epstein every time she lashes out and makes
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: allegations against our president. Katie has been so hostile about
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: Trump's relationship with Epstein when all of Epstein's victims have
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: said Trump was nothing but kind to them and there
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: was no inappropriate behavior. You know, Katie claimed ignorance about
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: this event and about these people. But former Vanity Fair
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: editor Tina Brown was astute enough to turn down the invitation.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: She now calls it the predator's ball.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: Wow, that's going to.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Ring to it. I just can't believe anybody, let alone
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: someone who's got the sort of profile Katie Curry had
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: a the time, would accept an invitation from a pedophile
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: either a two thousand and eight conviction, and this dinner
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: was in twenty ten. This meal two thousand and eight
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: conviction was for paying for sex with a fourteen year old. Now,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: in my mind, fourteen year olds can't consent, so that
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to me is rape. But however you want to characterize
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: that it was against the law. He pleaded guilty. That
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: was two thousand and eight and twenty ten. He's got
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: all these famous people sitting around his table. Give me
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: a break. Now, Wicked. We've talked about this film before.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: People have flocked to see The new Wicked movie was
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: released last week. The cinema goers were shocked to see
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: a trigger warning before the film started. Kinsey, what's that about?
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it warrants the audience to prepare themselves mentally to
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: see characters who cast magical spells.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: On one another.
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: I mean, not only was Wicked wildly successful on Broadway,
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: it's the sequel to a blockbuster film. Shouldn't we already
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: be mentally prepared? And do we really need a warning?
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: I think Carry Potter is even insulted in this scenario, and.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: The incessant crying from the leads continues. I saw another
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: interview where it was actually more members of the cast.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just Ariana Grande and Cynthia Arrivo, and they
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: were all crying again. I mean, there is something wrong
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: about that movie or on the set. Something has happened
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: because these people seeing changed and perhaps not changed in
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: a way that's improved their mental health.
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: Well, I don't like to comment on people's physical appearance,
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: but just look at how then both of the actresses
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: have become it's been to a point of being concerned
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: about it. So I think you are asking some fair
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: questions as to what's gone on mentally over the last
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: few years since they began filming this movie.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: They're just all over each other. They're crying. Their reactions
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: are so off. The effect is all off. Now before
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: you go, One of Keith Urban's fans has told TMZ
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: that he got the inside scoop about the singer's divorce
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: from our Nicole Kidman weeks before the rest of the world.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: How did Keith let it slip? Kinsey?
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: So yeah, Keith met his darpelganger in Canada and they
• 49:31
  Speaker 10: joked that the only way to tell them.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: Apart was Keith's tattoos and wedding ring.
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: And as Keith told the fan goodbye, he noted that
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: the next time they saw each other it might just
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: be the tattoos, alluding to the fact that he wouldn't.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Have his ring on. I mean, that's a dead giveaway.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That is a giveaway, but sometimes you know, people take
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: off their rings, they get them cleaned. I still think
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to be told about that divorce. I
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: have a fear that our Nicole was hard done by.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: And I say our Nicole because it's also our Keith,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: isn't it. We can't really, it's not like the Tom
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Cruise divorce with Nicole Kidman, and we could demonize him
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: as an American hurting our girl. But I think we're
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: going to hear a lot more about this as the
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: divorce finalizes. Kinsischofield, thank you so much for your time tonight,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and that's all the time I have. I'll see you
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: at eleven tomorrow night. Up next, it's Newsnight.