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Episode 363 - Stick It In a Big Bag of Rice! · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. My problem is
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I've got my pointer in the middle of the screen and I need to move
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it to the left, but my mouse is over on the left hand side
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of the pad, and if I go any further to the left, it's
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going to go off the pad anyway, So you could give me a call.
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I appreciate it. I'll wait till you until I hear from you.
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Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor and I'm Justin
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Lemmi. Thanks for joining us. Sean is on assignment this week. Yeah,
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late night assignment, if you will. Yeah. So, I guess
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Notre Dame, where you know he works, it does a big thing every
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year and it's like kind of a welcome day with it's like twenty four hours
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of just nothing but what Notre Dame does on their their TV channel, and
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that's what he's doing. Yeah. No, I do not envy him in
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the least. Yeah. He told me he was gonna be working until I
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think midnight tonight and then they've got to come back early tomorrow morning and continue
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it. Poor guy. Sorry. Yeah no, And you know it's crazy
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because they had nothing but network problems. This week, they've been dealing with
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all kinds of issues with servers, and luckily they got it all put together
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in time. But that had to be that's like hair pulling time. Oh
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totally, yeah, I mean, I mean I've dealt with that in the
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past. You know, with servers going offline. It always seems in the
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world of it, it always seems like your systems go offline at the worst
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possible time. Of course, they don't wait till when it's like just downtime,
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I'm gonna be needed time to go to sleep exactly. Oh you need
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it today? Oh yeah, guess what Windows update? All right, So
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I wanted to address something. There's a couple of things we were going to
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talk about. I wanted to address. Have you ever had justin because you
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provide it support. You've done that, I've done that. Have you ever
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had a client that over troubleshoots to the point where they get themselves in trouble
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to the point where you come in and you fix it by pushing one button
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and it gets fixed the first part of your question, No, I don't
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even know what that means. Over troubleshooting. Yeah, no, a user
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is never over troubleshooted. Really, However, yeah, I have on many
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occasions said, you know, somebody hits me up and says, hey,
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blah blah blah's broken. I can't fix this. I need this right now.
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And I go there and I'm like, oh, I pressed one button
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and it works again, and I'm like it's user error. But no,
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no, I've had that. But no, I have never I've never had
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a user that has called me and says, hey, I have a problem.
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I've done this, this, this, this, and this. Nothing's
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worked every single time. It's like, I have a problem. I don't
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know what's going on. Fix it now, right, that's better. I
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think that's better. Right. Well, well, I mean from an IT
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standpoint, you know, being myself an IT, I try to troubleshoot as
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much as I possibly can before I have to make a phone call to somebody.
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Now, granted, my phone calls that I have to make are probably
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too. Like my local ISP or even at work, you know, the
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ISP goes down, I'll troubleshoot. I'll say, all right, we've we've
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we've attempted to reboot the computer. We've attempted to reboot the router the switch,
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network switches, maybe even the firewall if there's one in play, right,
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we have you know, diagnosed blah blah blah, and it basically it
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shows that it's upstream from the router, so it's got to be on ste
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on your side. I'll do all that because I know how to do it.
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I'm an IT person. Yeah, but for the most part, no,
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No, people call me, you know, just normal users. They'll
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just be like, it's not working, fix it great, Yeah, I'll
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be right there. I had a situation recently, and this could serve as
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a cautionary tail for those that get into a situation and realize, oh,
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it's not working, so let me unplug it and plug it into something else.
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And then they plug it into something else and it's still not working.
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So then they leave it that way and say, no, it doesn't work
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anymore, when basically they plugged it into a dead outlet, which it was
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a device that was plugged in to another outlet for some reason. This device
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was left by this person's desk from the previous IT guy, and they didn't
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unplug it and just take it didn't work anymore. It powered up, it
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got a light, but there was no juice going through it, so it
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was dead. It was basically a dead device. So they had a computer
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it wouldn't start because they couldn't find the power button on it. It was
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an all in one, and those could be a little difficult. If you
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get one of those all in one, make sure you familiar with those.
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But they they then took the power plug, thinking, Okay, if we
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plug it in, it'll power up the computer. That's not gonna that's not
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You still have to find the power button on the computer to get it to
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start up on the all one, and they did, but they plugged it
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into dead outland. At that point they said it's dead and I'm telling him,
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no, it's not dead. It works. See if they would have
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just left it the way it was and then called me, I would have
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said, oh, the power button is not on the back. They were
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pushing a little plastic indentation that was on the back That wasn't a button.
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It was just for decoration, thinking, you know, like you have the
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Dell button on your Yeah. Yeah. They were pushing that thinking that was
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a power button and it wasn't. Well, the power button is hidden away
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underneath the monitor and that's that's that's a problem, Like, why why would
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you do that? Why would you do that? Bad design? Yeah,
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bad design totally. I mean I've had I've had situations where people have called
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me and said, hey, you know, even even this year with uh,
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you know, us ramping up water World getting ready for the summer season.
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You know, they're they're putting computers back in place. And a lot
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of times the people that are putting these computers back in place are part time
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you know workers, they're teenagers, you know, they don't know anything about
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this. So they'd like, oh, it's got to have an Internet connection.
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Let me just plug it into this little Ethernet jack here. They don't
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know that that's not the right jack to plug it into, right. So
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a lot of times we'll get a call, you know, and it'd be
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like, hey, well we can't access this website or this website. Well,
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I mean, you've got an Internet connection, but you're not plugged into
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the right one. You're not in the right v land, you're not you
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know, you don't have the right IP address, blah blah blah. And
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it's just simple, I just walk up there and I'll just plug it into
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the right you know, port and it works. I'll tell you. One
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of the biggest advancements when it comes to fixing computers in the late eighties nineties
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to where we have today is the smartphone. You know how many times I
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will go to somebody's you know place or or you know business, and I
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will go ahead and do the steps. I will capture that on the smartphone
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taking photos. Here's how you do this. Here's what this is. Here's
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how you do this. Nobody ever listens, but it's good, so they
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have it so that way they have Oh I can look and see, you
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know, I mean, this is the day, this is the day and
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age. Come on, I had to figure out how to put the oil
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in the car the other day. But go to YouTube. I mean that's
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well, I mean sure, I get that. And there's plenty of YouTube
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videos on almost anything you can imagine. But I've done that before where I
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was like, okay, look if this happens again, click here, do
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this, blah blah blah, press this button. Never ever has anybody ever
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gotten back to me and said, hey, I kid, wish you told
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me to do and it work. No. No, They're just like,
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hey, it's not working again. Did you do what I told you to
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do well, I don't remember what it was. Yeah, okay, I'll
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be right there. You know, yeah, boy, I actually went through
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earlier today. And the reason I brought this uff is is earlier today they
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finally were able to sit in front of your computer again, and they told
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me nothing was happening. And I'm this is after I made a trip and
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I've checked it. I basically changed out a computer, as a matter of
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fact, got it going, got it set up so that it was pretty
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much flawless, right, And they told me it's nothing, nothing's happening.
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I'm moving the mouse nothing. I'm like, kay, is the power button
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on? The power light on? The power button? Yeah? Yeah,
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yeah, that's that's And you had nothing on your screen. Move your mouse
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a little, let move in the mouse, move your keyboard, move the
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keyboard. Nothing, move the keyboard. Well he hit a key on the
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keyboard. You know, like, what does that you? So, okay,
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I picked up my keyboard. I moved it one inch to the left.
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Turn now what turn it upside down and look at the crumbs that'll fall
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out of the keyboard. French fry fell out. So this is what happened.
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The batteries and the mouse died. And then what they did is hit
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the power button to turn the computer off. But when they turn it on,
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it ran a Windows update and it took forever to start up, and
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then it just went blackscreen as it was doing the update, so they just
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assumed it wasn't working. I've told this story before on this radio show.
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Yeah, I don't understand how people now in the year twenty twenty three.
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I don't understand how people don't know how to use a computer in this day
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and age. I mean, we were raised with computers at least, you
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know my generation now all right, Now, obviously if you're older, okay,
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I get it. But anybody that's my age or younger, and primarily
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the people I deal with are younger than me, right, they don't know
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how to use a computer. I'm like, it doesn't know No, there's
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no excuse anymore. In my mind, you don't know how to use a
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computer. You know why? Because it's changed? All right? So what
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what what do you consider yourself in? Are you in gen z? Are
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you millennial? Well? See, I'm actually I mean if you if you
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look at the what's word I'm looking for? If if you look at the
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timeline. I guess I'm right on the border. I'm not gen X,
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right, and I'm not millennial. Okay, I'm like, I'm I'm there
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was a word for it. I just oh, zennial. I'm a zennial.
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That's what it is. Because I was eighty one, so that was
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right when the transition started. So I'm a Zennio. So by the time
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then you're using computers in yeah. Sure. And and I made a post
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about this on Facebook, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago,
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but it said Zennials are unique because they grew up with an analog childhood and
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a digital adulthood. Yeah. So I remember before computers. I remember when
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I when I was a kid, we didn't have a computer. I mean,
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the first computer we got was a three eighty six. It was a
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three eighty six. We put you know, the original Doom, the original
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Wolfenstein on it. We had to play with five and a quarter inch floppies.
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Yeah, there's two big drives. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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we had all that, and you know that was that was the first
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introduction into it. I was Windows three point one. Yeah, I mean
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it was. It was unique for my childhood because I'm in that transition phase,
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so I remember all of that. But kids that are born in you
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know, the year two thousand, which still blows my mind to think that
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people to be born in the year two thousand or now twenty three years old.
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I mean, like, oh my god, twenty two, twenty three
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it is. It makes me feel so old. Well here here's something Okay,
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So a bunch of bosses, thirteen hundred bosses were pulled in a survey
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recently, and they found millennials are now seen as the best employees. Millennials,
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all right, jen Zers are the worst, they say. The reason
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why is because jen zers are terrible with technology. Now give or take some
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of you listening that might be in that gen Z bracket that's born in nineteen
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ninety and two thousand that they're not good with technology. And the reason why
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is because we've made it so easy for them. Think about it, nineteen
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ninety so by twenty ten they might be sitting around with their or two thousand
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and five with their first computer experience. It's all for them. It's all
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done for them, not like a boomer like me, and for some of
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our listeners, you know, us boomers that are above the age of what
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is it fifty five I think or sixty fifty five, all right, so
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above the age of fifty five. We grew up in the days where you
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formatted, reformatted, installed, you, you troubleshoot it, you right,
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worked with DOS, you dropped to dos in Windows or you or like me,
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I used I didn't even but the first one I use was the Apple
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two e so I had, you know, helped the Apple US and then
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moved into the three eighty six. But did I use Windows. No.
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I had geal Works with AOL on it because that's what I wanted on that
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and that's what I had for my you know, late twentieth early thirties to
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use. So we've learned how to do that. But the kids have no
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concept of DOS. Some of them. Some of you may be listening,
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you're real good with that, or coding. Uh, you might be good
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to the coding good when it comes to the technology at it. Some people
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have a rough time with that. Well yeah, I mean I guess you
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could. You could almost equate it to like an analogy of like an automobile.
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I mean, way back in the day when the automobiles, like let's
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say I don't know, forties, fifties and sixties, you had to drive
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it and you had to learn you had to learn how to fix it if
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it broke down. Yeah, true, and and so you were, you
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know, neck deep in the engine compartment all the time fixing things and learning
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about your car. Now people are just they're just they can't be inconvenienced with
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learning about problems and how to fix it. It's it's a problem, it's
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like, oh, call the it guy right, or or if it's the
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car, oh, just take it to the mechanic. Another people like you
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buy another car whatever. Yeah, I mean it's like, oh, you've
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you've got a your your radio's out on your car, whatever, the fuse
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blew on your radio. Buy another car, yeah, like, you know
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whatever. It's like they just can't be inconvenience. It's like we've become a
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society of convenience. Well then and then again, people don't want to learn
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thinking about it, you know. With that an analogy of computers having been
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made so much easier for everybody that you really don't need to know too much
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about how they work. The same goes with cars, because then you used
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to have to know how a carburetor worked, or how does change an air
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filter, an oil filter? How to do an oil change, how to
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check your oil you know, how to replace it? Or even home maintenance.
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Yeah, I've seen. Yeah, there's so many people that, even
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in my neighborhood, they post on our neighborhood facebook page about oh my,
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my HVAC unit just won't push any air anymore, and I don't know why.
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And it's like somebody who's like commented, have you changed your air filter
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recently? Like, well, what is that? Oh no, oh my
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god. And they go and pull it out and then they take a picture
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of it and they send it to everybody in the group and it is just
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caked full of dirt and dust, and it's like, well, there's your
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problem. They're like, well, as soon as I pulled it out of
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my HVAC unit, I could just feel the airflow coming through the house.
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I'm like, yeah, because your thing was choking that little thing. Does
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that? People just don't know, And it's like, Okay, I get
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it. I don't expect you to be an expert and everything. I suck
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at home maintenance, right, but I have a healthy understanding of the most
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basic aspects of a lot of things, and I feel like that's where society
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is failing so many people. Now, is that you, dude, I
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have a basic knowledge. I mean, you get these people that are like,
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yeay, we just bought our first house. Yeay, we're twenty two,
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and I don't know how to change an air filter, let alone clean
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out my peat trap on my you know whatever. It's like, Oh my
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god. According to John Oliver, people under the age of thirty five are
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having a rough time buying houses. Well, yeah, there's too. Yeah,
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yeah, that's that makes it really rough too. Now, when it
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comes to your computer, somebody said to you, Justin, how do I
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clean this thing? What? What do I? What should I do with
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it? And then you pressure washer? He's kidding, folks, He's absolutely
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kidding. Yeah, No, I'm not. Do not take a pressure washer
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to your tower. Just take a pressure No, hear me out, take
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a pressure washer, wash it all on ice and clean and then put it
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in a big bag of rice. No, don't do that. People do
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not do that. No, the views represented by Justin Lemmy are not the
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views of tech Talk Radio or this radio station. No, you don't want
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to do it. We gotta we gotta make a movie. We gotta write
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a script about that. That would be great. Actually, PC Gamer a
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couple of years ago did a really good piece because people were spending so much
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time at home during the beginning of the pandemic and they were starting to use
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they were not every company issued somebody a laptop or a desktop computer. They
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actually told him, here, dial in and use your computer. But they
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found that their computers weren't up to par. Their computers were like slow,
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they were chugging along. They had two gigs of memory, they had an
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old spinny hard drive in there. So a PC gamer put an article out
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and they reminded us of this article during spring cleaning, that you can do
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spring cleaning on your computers. But obviously there's things you don't want to do.
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One of them. I actually heard an employee at a big box store
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tell somebody, well, if you got a lot of dust, just open
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it up. You can open up the side and just take a vacuum cleaner
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and take the vacuum cleaner host and pick up the dust that way. Also,
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folks, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
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Static. Yeah, well it's not just the static. I mean yes,
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that's one. The other is your computers in many cases have what they called
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jumpers, and there are there are little devices that bridge certain parts of what
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your computers could do. And people have been known to use a vacuum cleaner
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on the inside of the computer and suck up those jumpers and they wonder why
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all that. Yeah, the computer won't start at that point, you know.
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Um so PC gamer has this link. I want you to check it
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out. It's pcgamer dot com. Forward slash spring Dash clean dash your dash
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PC. All right. Now, if you think that maybe you were on
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a laptop or you have an all in one, you don't have to worry
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about it. And you're like sitting there on the high hog right now,
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you know, running the fingers on the chest and see, I don't have
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to do that, Actually you do. You could have the same issues with
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your vents getting clogged up on your your laptop. I'm not saying open up
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your laptop. You don't want to do that, but you put it in
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the washing machine, getting grab the car keys, go to go to you
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know wherever you're gonna go Best Buy, Costco whatever, and buy a new
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one. That's yeah, there you go. You know you don't want to
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do that. No, Um, but a little little can of air and
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you gotta be really careful with those can actually help dislodge any of that.
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But if your fans are heating up, the computers, getting less power,
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just not working the way it should, that, believe it or not,
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that that can be a big issue. And as the summer HiT's Yep,
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we're getting hotter here. I don't know about you in Denver. I know
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here in Tucson we're getting snow right now. Are you still getting snow?
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Yep? Wow, tonight, Yes, tonight as at the time of this
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recording, we are under a winter storm warning. That's crazy. I know
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there's snow in the front range. Yeah. And you're you're in the same
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month as US as April, right, yep. It end of April,
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coming back April next week will be May so great. Uh, something else
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to think about. I'm gonna talk about it because it's Arizona and you're in
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Denver, so maybe it's not a big deal. People transporting their laptops and
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their tablets, leaving their phones in the little carrier, you know, in
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your car. You know you don't want to do that, especially in the
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summer here. Absolutely not no, you know, or you're a lot of
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more people are getting dashcams nowadays. You definitely don't want to leave your dash
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cam, you know, connected to your windshield, especially in even in Arizona.
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I mean, yeah, it'll melt. I mean, what is what
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is your car get up to down there? Like, well, if it's
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two hundred and fifty degrees about that, seriously, he's not being serious,
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like two hundred and fifty degrees or something. And you've got this battery,
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battery device that's you know, most of them have a battery that's plugged into
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your your car. It's getting direct sunlight. Your best thing. Pull it
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down and put it in if you have to, you know, if you
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can't take it with you, put it in the glove compartment. It's not
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plugged in, it's put away. Yeah, you know, definitely. But
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here's another thing too, can of air free on. This happened to Michael
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Brian, who I just talked to this past week. Mike's doing well,
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but he one time took a couple of cans of air. Had a I'm
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not sure it was a it was a laptop he had, and he put
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him in the back of his Montero and he drove somewhere and he went inside
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to do some shopping. And when he came out, Now this was in
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Palm Springs, mind you, but when he came out, those cans of
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air exploded. And when they exploded, they took out that laptop, completely
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shattered it. So another thing to think about. Don't leave that. Don't
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leave your electronics in your car. Plus it's a you know, somebody walking
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back and see it in smash and grab. Absolutely, that's not a good
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thing. All right, what coming up? We got to talk to you
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about a purchase you made this week. I want to talk to you about
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that thing you're sitting on because I've been shopping and I keep getting fed ads
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for a certain brand, and I think it's because Facebook really is spy on
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spying on me. Oh sorry, and I'll tell you why we come back.
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This is tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm justin. Let
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me find us on the web at tech talk radio dot com. We'll be
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right back and now back to tech talk Radio. I went ahead and purchase
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something, and you're a little jealous, Yes I am. Yeah, Well
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okay, so let me let me preface this. I mean, I I
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have always been a video gamer. I love video games my whole life.
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I've got a gaming PC. I have an Xbox Series X, which is
22:27
the top of the line Xbox, you know for this generation. Um,
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I have a Nintendo Switch. Um, but I don't have a play isn't
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that something you bought for Eric doesn't Eric have? Well, he's got his
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own. He's got his own Nintendo switch. Are you kidding me? Really
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nice? Yeah, I got ant switching. He's got a switch light which
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we never play. I just, yeah, it's weird. Um, But
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anyway, I just I don't have a PS five and I've I've been kind
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of eyeing them, you know, but I'm like, I don't really have
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a reason to go drop five hundred and fifty bucks or whatever is pretty pricey.
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Well they have two models, right, they have what they do?
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They have disc and a disc lists. Yeah and yeah, so even the
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disc lists is still like four twenty five or four thirty something like that.
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Um. However, I was a couple days ago, I was I was
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browsing the neighborhood Facebook page, and there was a neighbor who actually was saying,
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hey, I got a PS five for sale brand new inbox disc edition.
23:26
Whoa, I'm seeking four hundred dollars. Wow. I reached out to
23:30
him and said, hey, would you take three fifty? You did not
23:33
low ball him, did you? Oh? I did. I totally did.
23:37
And initially initially he was like, I don't know about that. I
23:41
said, oh, it's okay, and I decided to play the pity party.
23:45
I was like, my six year old really wants the PS five and
23:48
he's only got three fifty saved up rotten. Oh well, yeah, okay,
23:55
sure i'll do. I'll do three fifty. Was all right. So
23:59
I went over I first of all, I first I've asked him. I
24:02
was like, how did you get this? And first, you know,
24:03
yeah, there's so many questions I have, like why fall out? How
24:07
did you get it? Fall off the back of a truck? Huh yeah,
24:10
I fell back of a truck. You know. I want to make
24:11
sure, like where did you get this? How did you? Why are
24:15
you selling this so cheap? He's like, well, I mean I've already
24:18
got a PS five and I he says something about I switched to a new
24:22
cell phone carrier and they gave me a huge credit, like a gift card,
24:26
and so I had to spend it on something. So I bought another
24:29
PS five and I decided to give you know, somebody a good discount on
24:32
it because I don't really need it. And I'm like, well, my
24:33
son is going to be super happy with you. So I took him over
24:37
there and I told him. I was like, yes, my son's fun
24:44
money. Then my son, though, he almost blows my cover because he's
24:49
he looks at me, goes, wait, daddy, this is my fun
24:52
money, and I'm like, yep. He's like. I was like,
25:00
oh god, oh god. I was like, no, no, it's
25:02
okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Here here, here,
25:03
I ven mode you the money here and let me take it. Let's
25:06
go. My you know, walked outside and I'm like trying to call him
25:07
down. I'm like, dude, keep your money. It's fine. Wait,
25:11
so I get to keep my money? Yeah, well what is this
25:15
all about? I'm like, I just used your use a pawn, Like,
25:18
what's up, pawn? So I totally used my kid for that.
25:23
But I got myself a PS five for three disc edition for three fifty.
25:29
Man, I mean I can't have I gotta say. I mean, okay,
25:32
So I hooked everything up. So I got the Xbox in the basement
25:34
in my theater area. I've got the PlayStation upstairs on the main floor,
25:38
which is another you know, I got another four KTV up there. Don't
25:42
have surrounds sound or nothing like that, but I mean, it's it's it's
25:45
okay. I hooked it all up. Then I realized, well, first
25:48
off, I had no more money left because I basically blew all my money.
25:51
I had no games. So I was like, oh, okay,
25:53
well what am I gonna do about that. I don't have you know,
25:56
sixty five dollars or whatever it is to drop on a new game game.
26:00
So I signed up for the PlayStation Plus network. It's basically like the Xbox
26:03
Game Pass, right, So I sign up for the premium version. It's
26:07
like, I think it's seventeen bucks or eighteen bucks a month whatever. If
26:11
I pay monthly, if I pay yearly, it's cheaper. But I decided
26:14
just to start with the monthly and immediately I got access to a ton of
26:18
games. Yeah, somebody might right away go, wait, seventeen dollars a
26:21
month, that's a lot of money, But what you get, on the
26:23
flip side of this, hundreds of games without having to go out and buy
26:27
these games. Like you said, sixty some of these are top games too.
26:30
You don't get every single game, but you do get a sizeable catalogue
26:34
of games. It's the same thing as Xbox Game Pass. They come out
26:37
for six to eight months or so, and then they'll leave the store,
26:41
but you have a chance to buy them at a super deep discount, so
26:47
if you want to keep playing them. So But right now, I've got
26:48
the new Final Fantasy seven remake. Now Final Fantasy seven. If anybody's ever
26:55
a good gamer out there ever played it, Final Fantasy seven is by far
26:59
the best Final Fantasy game of all time. Really it was. It was
27:03
released for the PlayStation one back in I want to say ninety eight, ninety
27:07
nine, I want to say ninety nine. Maybe this is an actual remake.
27:11
It's not a remaster. They remade the entire game in today's graphics.
27:15
Oh cool, So it looks new, but it follows the storyline of Final
27:22
Fantasy seven. So that's really really cool. But also, I've just got
27:25
a ton of games that I just you can't get on the Xbox and they're
27:29
just fun to play, and I don't have to pay anything for them.
27:32
Well, I mean I have to pay the eighteen bucks a month or whatever,
27:34
but I don't have to pay anything else for these. I can just
27:37
download them. The best part about it is the remote play. And so
27:41
I mean I have with the how's that? What is that? I have
27:45
a Windows computer, my Surface Pro, right, I have the Xbox app
27:48
on my Surface Pro, and that allows me to play my Xbox remotely from
27:52
wherever I am in the entire world. I can actually stream my home Xbox
27:59
to my surf. I try to in Japan. It worked great. I
28:02
mean literally streaming my home Xbox from Japan. That's pretty cool and it worked
28:07
great. However, this this latest recent update with Xbox Game Pass, I
28:11
mean, it is just is completely destroyed. The remote play. You can't
28:17
do it anymore. It's it's horrible and there's no word on it. They're
28:19
not saying, hey, we're looking into this. I mean, it's just
28:22
it's absolutely horrible. I'll tell you right now. The PlayStation remote play,
28:27
it just works, and it works really really well. As a matter of
28:33
fact, a couple days ago, I was sitting over at brews Our local
28:36
brewery here in the neighborhood, and I fired up the PlayStation remote play and
28:41
I actually played an entire game of Overwatch two, which is like, so,
28:47
if you don't know what overwatched, it's like a it's a five on
28:48
five first person shooter, right, but it's it's it's it's fast paced.
28:55
I mean, the graphics are moving, there's a lot of action going on,
28:59
and that's usually not good for remote play because of the latency and the
29:02
lag and things. Everything was perfect. I ended up scoring number one on
29:07
my team even playing a remote that's pretty good playing remotely. Yeah, and
29:11
I gotta say too, the PlayStation dual Sense controller is phenomenal. I love
29:19
this controller. Now. I still think Xbox. I like the layout better
29:22
of the Xbox. I like the thumb positions of the Xbox controller better.
29:27
But what I love about the PlayStation controller is the L two and the R
29:33
two triggers on the backside, the ones that you would normally use your middle
29:37
finger to press down. They have haptic feedback built into it, so if
29:44
you're trying to do something in the game, let's say, for instance,
29:47
like opening a stuck door, right, the trigger will actually fight back.
29:52
Nice so when you're pressing the trigger, it's hard to press the trigger because
29:59
it's fighting back against you, So it gives you that a little extra sense
30:03
of reality. Another cool feature about the controller is it has well it's got
30:07
a microphone built into it for for for remote play, so if you're playing
30:11
online with people, you don't have to have a headset. You can there's
30:15
a remote, or there's a there's a there's a microphone built into the controller
30:18
with an easy mute button in case you don't want it. But there's also
30:22
a speaker, and the speaker isn't necessarily just used for multiplayer communication, It's
30:29
actually used in other ways. I was playing the game Stray, which is
30:33
where you take on the the cat. Yeah, you're you're You're you're a
30:37
cat and you're walking around a post apocalyptic world. I could hear the footsteps
30:45
and the purse of the cat through the controller. It blew me away.
30:49
I was like, this is this is crazy? When are they going to
30:52
put it straight too? Because Anna Perna did really good with that title,
30:56
and then nothing yet. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm liking it right
31:03
now. Although I did make a mistake. I'll be honest. I let
31:07
Eric try to play Stray because he was he was interest. He's like,
31:10
oh, I want to be a cat. I want to play it,
31:11
of course. And in the very beginning of Stray, there's a there's the
31:15
opening sequence where you know, you're jumping around with a bunch of other cats.
31:18
You're you're jumping on these like uh HVAC vent ventilation pipes and one of
31:25
them breaks away and you lose your footing and there's nothing you can do about
31:27
it. This is a cut scene, like you can't control it, Like
31:30
it just happens and your cat, your character falls down into this pit and
31:36
loses his friends. He had nightmares all night long, oh man, because
31:41
he was so because he kept saying, I'm I missed the cats. I
31:45
missed the cat. And I'm like, I'm like, bro, it's like
31:47
two thirty in the morning. Can you just it's just a game, Okay,
31:51
your child, I know, but I mean, come on, it
31:53
was just a game, but a cat. It wasn't like I was letting
31:56
him play Call of Duty or or five Nights at Freddie's. I mean,
32:00
come on, I mean, it's not a horror game. It was just
32:05
a game on a cat, but he just got so freaked out about it.
32:07
But they make um seem so realistic that that bought between a kid.
32:13
Now. So there's PlayStation now some of the things. And then I asked
32:15
you right off the bat, can you connect to PlayStation network? And that
32:21
was like okay, because there have been cases where people have bought them exactly
32:27
online and then they hunk him up and then they find out that they were
32:30
acquired wrongly, like through you know, stolen of burglary or whatever, and
32:37
then they're not able to connect. But that's why, Yes, that's why
32:40
I asked this guy, where did you get this? Why why are you
32:43
selling this? It was cheap? And he's like, well, you know,
32:45
I told you the story. So yeah, the first thing I did
32:47
I got home, I set it up and I tried to connect to the
32:51
PlayStation network just to make sure, and sure enough it was. Everything was
32:52
fine. That's cool. I was like, all right, all right,
32:55
I know I got a legit console. I want to so my Xbox One,
33:00
which is what I have. I love it, you know, I've
33:02
cleaned it out, I've done I've done a couple of upgrades to it.
33:06
But the drive it doesn't work. Anymore, and I could replace the drive,
33:10
but do I really want Do you have to do soldering and all that
33:13
stuff when you replace You can't just you know, pull out and put a
33:15
new drive in. So that's what's awesome about the new pop a new one
33:20
in it. But the problem with this is I use it mainly now as
33:23
just a media device so I can watch you know, my Netflix, Hulu
33:28
and everything on there. I want to get another one. I want to
33:30
get the new one. Do I do? I bother getting the S or
33:35
the X Which one should I be looking at? But honestly, you're not
33:38
a hardcore gamer? No, no, I would. I would go with
33:42
the S. Just get the series. Yeah, I go with the Series
33:45
S, not the Xbox One S. The Series S. So that's the
33:51
newest generation. But the S is going to be just enough for you because
33:54
you're not a hardcore gamer. I got the Series X because I'm just that.
34:00
That's the type of guy I want. I am. I just want
34:01
the best of everything. If I want it, Yeah, it has to
34:04
be the best. So I got the Series X. I don't even utilize
34:08
Well, first off, there's not even a game out right now for the
34:12
Series X that utilizes the power of the series X Right, there's just nothing
34:17
out yet. Well it's been out for two years. Hopefully they'll do that.
34:22
All right, we can take a break. But what we're gonna do
34:23
is coming up on Monday is the premiere of the second season of Undercover under
34:30
Age. And we've had her on the show. We've I think we've even
34:34
featured her in one of our best stuffs. But I think to show that
34:37
every parent should watch. Now, it's up to you if you want to
34:42
have the kids watch it as well. But platform it is on ID Discovery.
34:46
You'll be able to find it on the app as well if you have
34:50
if you have their service. But it's about this this girl, root Rupal,
34:53
who actually works with a team and they help catch those child predators that
34:59
are out there. She does a really great job at it. So I
35:02
want to go we want to go ahead and feature that discussion with Rupal,
35:05
which she started, why she started the show, what the show is all
35:08
about, So you can be prepared to watch this on Monday. I'll be
35:10
watching it. I know a lot of people will. So we come back,
35:14
we'll have that and then we'll wrap up with justin coming up on tech
35:16
Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm justin. Let me find us on
35:20
Facebook, Facebook, dot com, forward slash tech Talkers. We'll be right
35:23
back now back to TikTok Radio. Around this time last year, well brand
35:29
new show made its debut on ID Channel season one of a show called Undercover
35:34
Underage, and the show has been picked up for a second season. It
35:37
makes its debut this coming Monday on ID Channel. Rupowell is the driving force
35:45
behind Sosa as well as this show Undercover Underage. We find out a little
35:49
bit about why this show got started, how it got started, how they
35:52
do it in our discussion with Rupal about the show Undercover Underage. Thanks for
35:58
coming on tech talk Radio. Thank you so much for having me. Where
36:00
did this idea come from to actually take what you were doing with Sosa to
36:07
make this a show? I never expected this to be a show. And
36:12
a production company reached out to me and said, you know, we'd love
36:15
to follow you around and show them the work that you do. And immediately
36:21
my natric reaction was, I don't know that that's a good idea. Yeah,
36:24
And then they made a really good point and they said, you work
36:29
so hard to raise awareness. Imagine doing that with a million people every week,
36:34
and that's really what hooks me because you'll see an undercover underage that we
36:38
are going after specific perpetrators, but more than going after online predators one by
36:45
one. I really think what's going to move the meal with online predation is
36:49
awareness, and I'm really glad to undercover underage and be able to do that.
36:52
Do you find rue that many parents have no idea that their kids are
36:58
having conversations sometimes with adults and these adults are preying on them. I don't
37:05
think that parents in general realize the pervasiveness of online pervation. And I think
37:12
that's because it's relatively new, Like Snapchat's only been around for a decade.
37:15
You and I didn't grow up with smartphones in our hands, and so this
37:20
generation of kids is really the first generation of kids with smartphones. I mean,
37:24
the iPhone came out in two thousand and seven, so its brand new
37:29
territory, and you know, we need to kind of shift the way that
37:32
you know, society has been parating. So I don't think they realize how
37:37
easy it is for someone to target a kid online. Either it's not about
37:43
you know, being a good kid, or being a smart kid, or
37:45
being a kid that needs attention. It's not about any of those things.
37:49
It's the fact that these predators are seasoned, seasoned manipulators, and they are
37:53
very colorcious. Well, the organization that you created Safe from Online Sex Abuse
38:00
otherwise known as SOSA, how long has that been around and what was kind
38:05
of the spearheading to create this organization? Had you heard of stories where children
38:09
had been victimized this way? So I have been a career long writer,
38:14
and I've long had cared about advocacy, particularly child advocacy. So I had
38:20
gone to the Southeast Hia to write about human trafficking. I've written about you
38:22
know, poverty, d crisis, child wellness, that sort of thing.
38:27
And then I was running creative for a tech company and we were seeing predation
38:34
happen online. You know, it's just tech safety company. And I really
38:38
believe in my heart that people did not know exactly what was going on.
38:44
And I could just if I could just screen grab one of these conversations,
38:47
screen grab how malicious this is and just put it on a billboard. I
38:52
think parents would you know, immediately understand what's happening. I ended up writing
38:58
a piece while I was a tech company about predation, and it went viral
39:02
and I ended up doing some profits on like Good Morning America. And then
39:06
after that, I realized, this is an area that I really want to
39:08
focus on. So I took some time to kind of study what nonprofits are
39:14
like. I've always been in a for profit industry, and I joined the
39:16
board of a of a child wellness nonprofit, and I felt like Dad gave
39:21
me some experience, so I couldn't start SOSA. We're talking with Rupal.
39:24
Of course, Undercover underagees the show it airs on Discovery. You could stream
39:29
it if you have the Discovery app as well, but it's definitely one not
39:32
to miss. If you're a parent, you're wondering, gosh, what is
39:36
going on with the kids, and we think, you know, we think
39:38
we tell our kids. I gotta tell you rue. Back in the nineties
39:42
when AOL remember AOL chat you had chat rooms. Oh yeah, your whole
39:45
bit. I remember my daughter was I want to say, maybe thirteen to
39:50
fourteen, and she would go and she'd be on the computer all the time.
39:52
Now I was a tech guy, so I you know, I was
39:54
like, oh, I know what I'm doing. I know it's safe.
39:57
She's okay. And one day, hey at the house through we got a
40:01
dozen red roses for her, and I remember saying to my wife number one,
40:07
number one, who what fourteen year old? If it's the same age,
40:12
it's going to be able to send her a dozen red roses from Florida.
40:15
And we lived in California, so we put the kabash on that pretty
40:20
quick. And it was rough because you know, we had to pull pull
40:22
the technology. You have the discussions. I even had a friend that was
40:25
in law enforcement come over and really even law enforcement was kind of unaware like
40:30
how to deal with it. Law enforcement has really been kind of a good
40:35
backbone for what you're doing by catching some of these predators. Yeah, I
40:38
mean, we do work in tandem of law enforcement, and you know,
40:42
anytime we put a new play in a city, we have a law enforcement
40:45
buy in, so there are no surprises. Yeah. I mean I was
40:47
a teenager in the nineties also, and I remember when someone told me that
40:52
they were also thirteen. I was like great new friends on the Internet,
40:55
not realizing how manipulative that some of these people could be. And um,
41:01
you know, it's it's become even trickier and it's become even more easy now.
41:07
Like I love technology. I think technology is great. It's allowing you
41:09
to speak with you, it's allowing me to you know, spacetime a sibling
41:15
who lives overseas. We get to learn different things. We get to see
41:19
what's happening in you know, Ukraine right now. But it's also an avenue
41:22
that predators would use to abuse children. And so because at an avenue,
41:28
we do things differently about how we approach things. How does a parent route
41:31
talk to their kid, you know, when when they decide to go ahead
41:36
and spend you know, twelve hundred bucks and give them an iPhone or an
41:39
Android device and say, here you go, have fun, you know,
41:43
show me your funny snaps. How did they protect them from these predators.
41:47
That's a great question. I have a teen and I have two twins,
41:51
and they have cell phones, and you know, we put some training roles
41:54
on them, so they didn't start out with having access to everything, right,
41:59
and then beginning they could just text stand the numbers, and then it
42:01
was okay, now you can text and listen to podcasts and listen to audiobooks
42:06
and play a game. And then we kind of, you know, we
42:08
let them show us if they're responsible, it's not. Here's your phone,
42:13
have fun on TikTok and snapchat and good luck. You know, we have
42:16
really open and honest conversations about what happens online. As a parent, I
42:21
kind of liken it to the sex talk. You don't have the sex talk
42:23
once with your kids, you have it frequently. It's a topic of conversation,
42:28
and so our cell phone safety is also a topic of conversation in our
42:31
house as well. Like Undercover Underage was originally going to be TVMA, and
42:37
one of the reasons why we really wanted it to be TV fourteen is because
42:39
we were hoping that some adults could watched it with their teenagers and it would
42:44
be great, you know, it would be a great starter for discussion around
42:47
online safety. Is it important for somebody maybe fourteen fifteen to sit down with
42:53
the parents and understand and watch this. I think so. And here's why
42:58
your kids already know that it's happening. That's true, But they are,
43:00
they're already aware. They're already in high school. They already understand. Maybe
43:04
not to what extent, maybe not to the pervasiveness of it, maybe not
43:07
to how malicious these people are, but you know, they're if not their
43:14
cell phone, their friends cell phone top stuff on the right, Like they're
43:16
on different apps than people are reaching out to them. So I do think
43:20
it's important, and I've had parents say that it has been a great tool
43:23
in teaching about online safety. You know, and your mind legs may vary
43:28
on what you think as appropriate for your kids. Some parents have their twelve
43:30
year old watch it, so I'm not until they're fourteen, so you know,
43:34
maybe screen it first. That's actually a good point too. You can
43:37
always watch it first and then go back and watch it with them. Well,
43:39
and on the tech end of it, you're an advisor to Spectrum Labs.
43:43
They work to help keep kids safe, you know online through text and
43:47
even audio moderation because people have people have face to face facetimes so easy to
43:52
use or Skype or any of the other services. They could just suddenly pull
43:54
up a video and there's the person there. Oh right. Yeah. And
43:59
one thing that's great about Spectrum and to really dig into the tech here,
44:01
we take our conversations and the grooming patterns and the language that we see and
44:07
we remove all the PII, all the personally identifiable information, and we give
44:12
it to the data scientists at Spectrum Labs and they use that to train their
44:16
artificial intelligence in order to better detect signs of child abuse. And Spectrum works
44:22
with companies that are social media apps, gaming apps, dating apps, because
44:27
I think these companies are starting to realize that the owner there is an onus
44:30
on them to keep their user base based, especially if they're opening up their
44:35
platforms to searching them up. I'll tell you some of the stuff that you
44:38
go through rough, somebody needs to give that lady a hug. I mean
44:43
the stuff that because you know you're you're in there. For our listeners that
44:45
haven't seen it, I want you to watch it. You're a fifteen year
44:49
old girl from from from what your character that you're you're you're representing is a
44:53
fifteen year old girl, and these people are doing these things of video chat
44:58
and sending you this stuff, and it's like, I can't imagine a fifteen
45:00
year old child seeing this. It's and this is sadly what happens. Yeah,
45:06
I mean it's probably. I'm sure it's painful for some people to watch
45:09
me go through it because you can see me react. But I'm an adult,
45:14
you know, I'm almost middle age, and I have access to therapy
45:17
and support and acute role in that keeps me companies. But imagine if it
45:22
was actually I mean, it's actually happening to teenagers, and better me than
45:25
a teenager. But what's happening is so many kids are afraid to talk to
45:30
a caring adults about it because they don't want to be shamed. So a
45:32
lot of these kids are dealing with this kind of quietly and secretively because like
45:37
what is online abuse? As nobody actually put their hands on me, but
45:42
they're still being abused. And that's the thing with technology Now you don't have
45:45
to be in the same world or state or country as a kid in order
45:50
to abuse them. Now, I have noticed that the show has gone to
45:54
lengths to number one, you know, hide the voice of the perpetrator,
45:59
which makes it creepier, but they do that, I mean, as creepy
46:02
as it is. But but and then and then, you know, you
46:05
kind of protect the identity. Although you know I've been I'm I watch i
46:08
D channel, so I go online, I find out, Okay, that's
46:12
that person or that's that person? Is that was that kind of a legal
46:15
decision to do just to protect maybe id so so, or it was it
46:22
just to say, listen, this exists in many people out there, so
46:24
it's not just this one person. You know, we really believe in the
46:29
process and we want to continue to have the respects and support of law enforcement
46:34
and propecutors. And you know, we want these perpetutors that get caught to
46:38
go through the proper processes and that includes a trial. You know, that's
46:43
that's so right. And so what we don't want to do is splash their
46:46
name and faith everywhere because everyone still delivers the right to a trial and we
46:52
feel strongly about that. Now, getting arrested is one thing, but then
46:57
after their sentence, you know, then it's done, it another and we
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really want to let law enforcement do their thing. So we're not we are
47:06
not in the business of splashing that around. And I know we definitely get
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a lot of heat for that, but I also want to protect an investigation.
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I also don't want to be the one that works a case because I
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just put myself through all of that. I don't want it to sum to
47:22
style and be like, oh, well, he guys you know, spewed
47:24
him online. Obviously have a vendetta against him when that's certainly not the case.
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We are just looking for a better, safer internet for kids. So
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when parents get a chance to talk to you and ask you about the web
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and online safety, what seems to be the most general consensus of question.
47:45
Parents will often ask you, well, what's a good app? What's a
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safe app? And the reality is any app can be used as a tool
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to a view the child if there's an opportunity to communicate. So we've seen
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it on coloring book apps, We've seen it on Words with Friends, We've
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seen it on you know, gaming websites that are geared towards kids. There's
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no I can't say these are all the safe ones, these are all the
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unsafe ones, because that you know, that's a false sense of security.
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I mean we have to be vigilant regardless, Like you know, what,
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what game is your kids playing on an iPad or on the xbox and are
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they communicating with someone? And you know, that's that's really important to think
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about because you could be playing a drawing game online and somewhere in the chat
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box will go, hey, does anyone want to give you their Instagram handle?
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I can show you photos of my puppies. And that's like a modern
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day version of Hey, little girl, can you help me find my dogs?
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Yeah? Boss? Oh, and it's not a creepy guy in a
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van. It's it's you know, a creepy guy on a keyboard, is
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what it is. That's what you're running into. And it might not even
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it might not even be a creepy guy, like he might be presenting as
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a as a nice kid and a peer or somebody who's you know, I
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think a lot of this, a lot of the scary stuff surrounding this.
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The scary part is these aren't just like caricatures as monsters, you know,
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they're not. Yeah, I can't look at someone and go, oh yeah,
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that's definitely an online predator. Some of these men are family men,
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or a conventionally attractive or they have good jobs, or their respective community members.
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It could be really anyone. It could be the person in front of
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you inline at the grocery store checkout. So there's no rhyme or reason.
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And you know, which is again why I'm very anti victim blanding on this,
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because yeah, it's so expensive if somebody comes across this room this happens,
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and and they're apparent and they suddenly have found images on you know,
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their kids devices. What should they do? Should they contact law enforcement?
49:43
They should absolutely contact law enforcement. And you know, you can always block
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someone who is harassing your kid, but take screen grabs, handles over to
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law enforcement. Sometimes law enforcement will take over to the account and you know,
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okay, like give me a log in and we can see what happens
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here. Definitely call law enforcement and you can also you know, file a
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tip with Nick Nix, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Very
50:05
important. We want our listeners to check out SOSA together dot org, so
50:08
OSA Together dot org, and I want them to watch this show on ID
50:14
channel Investigation Discovery. It is Undercover Underage Rupal. It is so great to
50:19
talk to you. Thank you for the work you're doing and to the entire
50:21
crew that you work with. Thank you. I'll pass it along and thank
50:23
you so much for having me. That is Rupal. Season two of Undercover
50:28
Underage debuts this Monday on Investigation Discovery. We'll be back with more of tech
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talk Radio and now back to tech talk Radio. Stephen right here listening to
50:37
tech talk Radio. Yeah, some along that life. Yeah, I guess
50:44
that was it, right, Let's go with it. I love it.
50:52
I'll say it anyway. Ali, this is Stephen right, you're listening to
50:54
tech talk radio. But you know I've already been saying that one of the
51:01
things I've been shopping for lately is a chair. I want a gaming chair,
51:06
and I keep hearing Razor is one of the choices for gaming chairs.
51:09
I've gotten into office depot. I've sat in chairs, I said in one
51:14
that made me hunch over. That's the key. That's probably not the chair
51:16
I want. I'm not, yeah, I said in it. I'm like,
51:19
oh, oh, I can't move in this thing. Um. Everybody's
51:22
talking Secret Lab. If you if you get online on Facebook or Instagram,
51:27
secret Lab, you see their chairs all the time. You have a Secret
51:30
Lab chair. The one they keep pushing me is the Tighten Evo, And
51:36
I'm trying to figure out why because it's also more expensive. What what is
51:39
What is the one you have? And why would you recommend that I have
51:43
the I have the Omega. They're they're they're they're pushing you the Titan because
51:49
Facebook is spying on you and and Facebook knows your weight. What is it
51:55
for larger people? Oh? Yeah, the Titan? The Titan is it's
52:00
got like a reinforced titanium steel base. It's got like like shocks shock absorbers
52:07
that are used by NASA. Um. Yeah, no, I'm just joking
52:12
again. Yeah. No, Titan is their chair that is designed for larger
52:16
people. Yes, it is true. I have the Omega. I'm not
52:21
a very large person, although my wife would say otherwise. Um, but
52:25
I have the Omega. I love Secret Lab. Secret Lab is an amazing
52:29
company. They make amazing chairs. And you may think, oh, well,
52:31
I don't want a gaming chair. It's not a gaming chair. As
52:37
soon as you buy a Secret Lab and you sit down, you're not going
52:38
to be a call of duty pro okay. Is what is designed for are
52:44
people who sit for long periods of time in one position, Gamers, executives,
52:51
people that are it professionals. Whatever, you're sitting for a long time
52:54
in a chair, you want to be comfortable and that's what Secret Lab does.
52:59
They make a chair that is comfortable for you. My thing is when
53:01
I sit in a chair, I don't want to suddenly get my back forced
53:05
into a weird position. I want to feel the lumbar. Yeah, I
53:07
want to feel it under my legs. That comfort and in the armrest so
53:10
that when I am sitting, because I do sit for long periods of time
53:14
recording and doing Whatnotum, I just want to be comfortable. Would you recommend
53:17
Secret Lab over or some of the others? I mean absolutely. Razor came
53:22
in second on the list, but was even more I haven't I haven't tried
53:25
a Razor. I don't know. I don't know about that. However,
53:29
I'll be honest with you though, even though I have a Secret Lab chair,
53:31
I still have one of those um uh, what are the They're very
53:37
thick foam. Uh. They're used for like back rolls, you know,
53:40
like you lay on the ground and you roll your back on it. Like
53:44
now, not memory phone. It's like a hard yoga thing. It's like
53:46
a it's a it's like a pool noodle. Yeah all right, right,
53:50
but it's super hard. Right. Yeah. I had one of those,
53:52
and I use it as a foot rest and I keep my feet on it
53:54
and I can roll my feet back and forth to keep you know, my
53:58
blood flow going. But I use that as well because it keeps my feet
54:01
even more elevated and it takes the pressure off of my um What is that?
54:07
The quad yeah, I guess the under muscle underneath your I don't have
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any more muscle there whatever. The muscle that's not No, the quad is
54:15
on top. It's the bustle on the back of your main part of your
54:17
leg. Anyway, it takes the pressure off of that because I do get
54:21
that pressure still, no matter what chair I lit I sit in, I
54:23
get that pressure. So having that foot roller to allow me to move my
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feet back and forth, it helps me keep that pressure off. And that's
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a lot of times. That's a lot of that's that's where a lot of
54:34
the blood clots come from. It's people that are sitting in a chair with
54:37
that part of their body which is just right above your knee on the underside,
54:42
and you just sit there for a long time and you don't move that
54:45
area. That causes a blood clot. Yeah. Well no, it's definitely
54:50
not good. My father passed away from that. Yeah, So yeah,
54:52
I mean it's like so it makes it very more much more conscious to me
54:55
to make sure I'm not doing that. So it doesn't matter what chair you
54:59
get. You guys been ten thousand dollars on a chair. You still need
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to move around exactly. But the secret lab chair is great in my opinion
55:06
for when you are sitting. All right, good, good advice. We'll
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see what I end up coming up with by next week's show. The meantime,
55:13
thanks for popping in. Okay, fun with the PlayStation and uh,
55:16
you know, let Eric know his money still there. Yeah, of course
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I'm gonna go play some PlayStation right now. That's it for this week's tech
55:23
talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm justin. Let me have yourselves a
55:27
great week. We will see you next time. Find us on the web
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