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Dr. Jessi Gold shares Johnson & Johnson's #GenerationFine campaign to help with depressioni · Cyrus Webb's tracks

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Conversations Live. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Cyrus Webb. Glad you all could join us once again
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  Speaker 1: as well. This is part of our music and youth
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  Speaker 1: segment here at WYED, and today we're talking about help
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  Speaker 1: and hope for those dealing with depression. As we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about before, October 10th is recognized as It's World Mental
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  Speaker 1: Health Day. But even beyond that day, it's one of
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  Speaker 1: those things that all of us have to be aware of.
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  Speaker 1: If you've ever asked someone how they're feeling or been
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  Speaker 1: asked yourself, and you may be in a depressive state,
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  Speaker 1: your response may be, I'm fine. But sometimes those two
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  Speaker 1: words may mask ongoing symptoms that continue to disrupt our
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  Speaker 1: daily lives and also to make us feel incomplete. That's
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  Speaker 1: why this is such an important topic for us to
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  Speaker 1: discuss today. Johnson & Johnson has a campaign called Generation
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  Speaker 1: Fine today. where they're helping people living with depression recognize
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  Speaker 1: and talk about their ongoing symptoms that may otherwise go unspoken.
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  Speaker 1: Here to talk to us more about that and also
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  Speaker 1: more help, we're excited to welcome Dr. Jessie Gold to
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  Speaker 1: our broadcast today. Dr. Gold is a psychiatrist, best-selling author,
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  Speaker 1: and international speaker. Dr. Gold, thank you again for stopping by.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: This is such an important topic for our audience. As
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned, Dr. Gold, for people who may have been
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  Speaker 1: asked how they're feeling or may have done it themselves,
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  Speaker 1: and the response is, I'm fine. It is one of
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  Speaker 1: those automatic responses, but what is it that we need
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  Speaker 1: to know about those who may be still experiencing symptoms
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  Speaker 1: that affect their daily lives, even if they may say
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  Speaker 1: they're okay?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's an automatic response, and I don't think
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  Speaker 3: we even necessarily mean it sometimes, right? Like when we
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  Speaker 3: say it, we're probably not fine, but we say I'm
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  Speaker 3: fine because that's just the conversation that we're having. We
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  Speaker 3: might not want to admit it to whoever we're talking to,
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  Speaker 3: but we also might not even know. And like what
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about, For somebody who's had depression before, this
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  Speaker 3: campaign is really advocating for them to realize like they
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  Speaker 3: might feel better than they did before. They might be
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  Speaker 3: getting out of bed, going to work, but they might
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  Speaker 3: still be having symptoms. And so if you feel better,
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  Speaker 3: that could be like fine in comparison, but you can
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  Speaker 3: accept more than fine and there's a place to go
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  Speaker 3: beyond that and it's not the finish line.
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  Speaker 1: So Dr. Goh, what can help people better understand and
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  Speaker 1: communicate the day-to-day impact of their symptoms even to their
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  Speaker 1: healthcare providers?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so our website, which is generation-find.com, has two tools
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  Speaker 3: that I think can be really helpful. One is a
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  Speaker 3: self-reflection tool because you don't necessarily even know what you're
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  Speaker 3: experiencing or what to pay attention in yourself. And it
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  Speaker 3: kind of guides you on like, what is going on
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  Speaker 3: with me?
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  Speaker 2: Am I actually not fine?
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  Speaker 3: And the other one is a conversation guide that you
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  Speaker 3: can use to have a conversation with your care team,
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  Speaker 3: someone like me, a primary care provider. So you feel
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  Speaker 3: empowered to say, like, I actually think I'm still having symptoms.
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  Speaker 2: Here are the symptoms. Let's have that conversation.
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  Speaker 3: So you don't show up in a visit and feel
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  Speaker 3: overwhelmed and anxious and afraid and, you know, dealing with
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  Speaker 3: the power dynamic and the things you wanted to say
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  Speaker 3: don't come out. So you prepare before your visit to
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  Speaker 3: have those conversations and feel empowered to have those conversations.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it's so good that Johnson & Johnson has
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  Speaker 1: this campaign, Generation Fine. If you don't mind, Dr. Gold,
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  Speaker 1: tell our audience more about it and what conversation the
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  Speaker 1: campaign is hoping to change for people who are living
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  Speaker 1: with depression.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really excited to be able to speak about
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  Speaker 3: it because I think I'm one of those people who
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  Speaker 3: said I was fine when I wasn't fine either, even
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  Speaker 3: though I'm a psychiatrist. Like, I think I didn't always
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  Speaker 3: ask myself how I was feeling. And when I did,
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  Speaker 3: I was fine because I was showing up at work
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  Speaker 3: and I was doing a good job. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's one of those things that just pushes that conversation
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  Speaker 3: to say.
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  Speaker 2: Like, but are you actually fine? And when we say that.
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  Speaker 2: what's underlying that.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're a person who's had depression before, is
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  Speaker 3: there more than just fine that you can experience? Can
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  Speaker 3: you be better? Can you have those conversations with your
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  Speaker 3: provider to say like, I'm better, but I could still
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  Speaker 3: be a lot better than that. And I think all
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  Speaker 3: of that is empowering for everyone to just be able
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  Speaker 3: to say like, Hey, that word has a lot of
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  Speaker 3: weight to it. It's not just a word that we say,
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  Speaker 3: and we should pay more attention to what's underlying it
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  Speaker 3: and what it could mean for us as we move forward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I think this is so important.
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  Speaker 1: I've dealt with depression myself, Dr. Gold, and so I
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  Speaker 1: know how helpful it was for me to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get assistance but also to open up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we put a lot on health care providers for sure,
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  Speaker 1: even though, of course, you know, it really is a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: But what can health care providers do to help patients
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  Speaker 1: open up more about what they're experiencing?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, thank you for sharing your story. I
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  Speaker 3: know it's not an easy thing to do, but it's
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  Speaker 3: really helpful for folks to see people who have had
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  Speaker 3: depression be able to like come and do their jobs
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  Speaker 3: and do a good job and help other people.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you for that.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, you know, as a health care provider,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things we have to realize is sometimes
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  Speaker 3: people can because of power, because of stigma, because they
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  Speaker 3: don't even know what to do in that situation. like
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  Speaker 3: just say an answer to a question, like when they're
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  Speaker 3: asked how they're doing and they'll say they're fine and
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  Speaker 3: they won't ask any follow-up. So it's our job to
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  Speaker 3: ask a follow-up. Like it is our job to say
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  Speaker 3: something like, I know you said you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just checking.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes people say they're fine when they're not actually fine.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think about that? Or does that resonate? Or,
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  Speaker 3: I know you've been really depressed before and you're a
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  Speaker 3: lot better, but is there stuff still going on that
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  Speaker 3: I should know about to know that like we can
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  Speaker 3: help you be even better than that? And so I
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  Speaker 3: think as it is a relationship and you should feel
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  Speaker 3: confident to come in prepared, bring questions, ask anything you
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  Speaker 3: want in that situation. It's also on us to ask
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  Speaker 3: some of those questions, too, because I'm not a mind
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  Speaker 3: reader and I wouldn't know unless you told me. So
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  Speaker 3: it's important that I ask.
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  Speaker 1: Are you finding, Dr. Goh, that people are feeling more
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  Speaker 1: comfortable in, for one, sharing that they're not okay, but
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  Speaker 1: also realizing that there's nothing wrong with asking for help
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  Speaker 1: if you need it?
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  Speaker 3: I think people are a little bit better about it.
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  Speaker 3: I think things like social media and people sharing their stories,
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  Speaker 3: people like you sharing your story, I think can make
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  Speaker 3: people feel like it's normal and even boring and not
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  Speaker 3: something we should be shocked about that everybody's experiencing it,
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  Speaker 3: just like having high blood pressure or diabetes or all
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  Speaker 3: these other things that.
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  Speaker 2: You see commercials for and we talk about.
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  Speaker 3: I think people are becoming more comfortable talking about these things,
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  Speaker 3: but sometimes talking about it doesn't mean that people go
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  Speaker 3: get help for it.
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  Speaker 2: So I think.
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  Speaker 3: knowing that there is that step too. So feeling comfortable
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  Speaker 3: talking about it with friends or family, and then knowing
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  Speaker 3: that if you do need help, that you feel safe
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  Speaker 3: to get help and know that help is available is
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  Speaker 3: not always understood by folks.
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  Speaker 2: And there's still stigma about.
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  Speaker 3: That, I would say, especially as a psychiatrist around medications.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's important for people to know that
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  Speaker 3: they can help and that we can help you and
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  Speaker 3: that we're not scary and that we are accessible. And
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  Speaker 3: that if you're comfortable sharing with somebody else, hopefully you
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  Speaker 3: would feel then comfortable sharing with us too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Love that. That's why, again, we're so glad to
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  Speaker 1: have this conversation. Again, October 10th is recognized as World
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  Speaker 1: Mental Health Day, but this is a conversation that has
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  Speaker 1: to happen year-round. Again, our guest has been Dr. Jessie Gold.
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  Speaker 1: She's a psychiatrist, best-selling author, and international speaker. Talk with
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  Speaker 1: us about Johnson & Johnson's campaign, Generation Fine, but also
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  Speaker 1: what all of us can do to be able to
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  Speaker 1: feel better about ourselves and our situation.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Gold, I want to ask you, how can our audience
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  Speaker 1: get more information and find out about these resources?
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  Speaker 3: So all the resources I talked about, like the conversation
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  Speaker 3: guide or the self-reflection exercise or any of the stories
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  Speaker 3: of our own experiences can all be found at generation-find.com.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll link that up as well. Dr. Gold, thank
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  Speaker 1: you again for stopping by. I really appreciate it. Looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to speaking with you again.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to do it. And we think your audience are
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