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The Best Steak and Cheese... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: After show, Army, what's up?
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  Speaker 2: It is a Monday, May eleventh, wrapping up the show
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  Speaker 2: and starting the after show. Hope you had a great weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and thank you as always for listening. Hope you had
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  Speaker 2: a great Mother's Day. You celebrated your mom if she's
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  Speaker 2: still here. If not, obviously you celebrate the memory of mom.
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  Speaker 2: I always like to think that way, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: not all of us are lucky enough to have our moms,
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  Speaker 2: and if you do, you're lucky. I'm lucky enough to
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  Speaker 2: have my mom. And I did see her this weekend
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  Speaker 2: at my nephew's birthday party. She was all excited about
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  Speaker 2: being on the radio. Yes, we had her on the
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  Speaker 2: air on Friday. You know, I was gonna tell a
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  Speaker 2: story about my mom and you know the American Pie
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  Speaker 2: here singing that song when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: And then I called her and put her on and
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  Speaker 1: she was great.
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  Speaker 2: She was a great So I sent her the audio
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  Speaker 2: and she was sending it to like everybody in my family,
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  Speaker 2: all of her friends. She was super excited. So I
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  Speaker 2: hope Mother's Day was great. I saw her Saturday, not
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. On Sunday, I spent the day with well,
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  Speaker 2: my family. You know, my wife was there. She had
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of homework to do, so, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, whatever you want to do today, it's your day.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'll take the kids.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunately she had a final to do, so she
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  Speaker 2: spent two or three hours locked away in a room
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  Speaker 2: on Mother's Day. And that was her choice. She had
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  Speaker 2: to She had to do it either way. It had
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  Speaker 2: to get done. But it was better she got it
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  Speaker 2: done earlier and not later. So it sounds like messed up,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, look, she's in school to be a
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  Speaker 2: psych NDP and this is part of what she has
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  Speaker 2: to do. You gotta do some sacrificing, if you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. But we got some good time and
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  Speaker 2: I sent her Nannie and Nana to breakfast at Marianne's
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  Speaker 2: in Salem, New Hampshire. If you're up in that area,
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  Speaker 2: you know Marianne's. They love it there. So they went
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  Speaker 2: to breakfast. I hung back with the children and it
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  Speaker 2: was a good day, man, it was a really good day.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday morning, we had baseball nine am in the rain.
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  Speaker 2: I called Billy after the game, I'm like, you remember
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  Speaker 2: these days of like being outside freezing cold, watching your
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  Speaker 2: kid play baseball or whatever sport it is. But they
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  Speaker 2: did win, so that was good. And then yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: went to my nephew's birthday party, and then after the
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  Speaker 2: party we went.
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  Speaker 1: To get the steak and cheese.
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  Speaker 2: We got at a place called mac Daddy's. It's in Haveral.
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  Speaker 2: It's been open a few years. It's one of those
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  Speaker 2: viral spots that you know, a lot of the influencers
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  Speaker 2: go to because the food's like incredible. They have these
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  Speaker 2: giant subs and really crazy menu. So I've been wanting
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  Speaker 2: to try it, and uh, it was phenomenal. Actually, she
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  Speaker 2: got the steak and cheese. I got the I think
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  Speaker 2: it's called the capone. Maybe it's basically a chicken palm.
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  Speaker 2: Although it's said he had vodka sauce on it, but
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  Speaker 2: I felt like it was just Marinera. Maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: just like their version of the vodka sauce. I'm not sure,
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  Speaker 2: but it was fantastic. So my son stayed with his
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  Speaker 2: friend and so my wife and I and my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: Gemma went to the birthday party and then we went to.
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  Speaker 1: Eat at Macdaddy's.
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  Speaker 2: And the birthday party was cool because there was some
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  Speaker 2: of my extended family there.
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  Speaker 1: And so I have an uncle.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Uncle Paul, and he he's semi retired now he
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  Speaker 2: works like part time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's older.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's God, he's got to be early seventies maybe,
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  Speaker 2: but so he's retired from his regular career, but he
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  Speaker 2: still works in some cause. He's I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: he is. He's a psychologist or whatever. But he ran
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  Speaker 2: a program that I was in when I was when
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  Speaker 2: I was a youth. So basically my first time that
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  Speaker 2: I was ever hospitalized was at McLain Hospital in Belmont.
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  Speaker 2: I was thirteen years old, and then I ended up
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  Speaker 2: going back again, I think when I was like sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: maybe seventeen. Then I went back again a couple more
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  Speaker 2: times as an adult in the adult detoxes. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, well known at McLain Hospital.
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  Speaker 2: So the first time I was there when I was thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't working there. And then a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: later he became. He oversaw the youth program that he
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  Speaker 2: was like the big boss, and so you know, they
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  Speaker 2: got me in there again, and you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: just a messman. I was just a real mess and
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  Speaker 2: he saw that firsthand. So I don't see him often,
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  Speaker 2: so it was really good to see him because he's
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  Speaker 2: just he's a great, great guy, really smart, really kind,
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  Speaker 2: very loving, and you know, he helped my mother a
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  Speaker 2: lot with trying to deal with my behavior and all
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  Speaker 2: the things that I was doing. He was there trying
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  Speaker 2: to help his sister deal with the trauma of it all.
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  Speaker 2: And so when I saw him, I hadn't seen him
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  Speaker 2: in a while and like a few years, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: come over here, and I sat down and we had
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  Speaker 2: like an hour long conversation, and he started off by
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  Speaker 2: saying like, obviously, I'm so proud of you. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: I listened to your whole Northern Essex Community commencement speech
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, it's just unbelievable. You know, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: so proud of you. And obviously he's worked for years,
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  Speaker 2: decades in addiction and mental health, especially with kids, and
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  Speaker 2: it's not often that you see success stories, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's so true, and for it to be his nephew's,
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  Speaker 2: he's just so proud. And then I asked him about
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  Speaker 2: something that happened when I was thirteen years old, the
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  Speaker 2: first time I was ever put into any kind of
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  Speaker 2: facility Okay. So I don't know if I ever shared
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  Speaker 2: this on the podcast. I may have with when Winnie
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  Speaker 2: was here, I forget. But so it was called East House.
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  Speaker 2: It was the youth program at McLain Hospital. My parents
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with me. They put me
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  Speaker 2: in there and it was the ninety day program. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it was three months. It was impatient. I lived there
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  Speaker 2: and they had a big day room and I remember
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  Speaker 2: the dayroom because they had a huge mural of James
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  Speaker 2: Taylor on the wall. Because James Taylor went to McClain hospital,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess his family does a lot of work
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  Speaker 2: with them. A lot of money is donated by James
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  Speaker 2: Taylor and his family. He's like very well connected to
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  Speaker 2: McLain hospital. So I'll never forget the mural that was
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  Speaker 2: on the wall. And they told us a story that
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  Speaker 2: he was there as a youth, and obviously he's been
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  Speaker 2: in recovery for a long time. So in that day
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  Speaker 2: room there was another kid there. I don't remember his name,
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  Speaker 2: but he was sixteen years old, okay, and now he
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  Speaker 2: had been there before and then he left and while
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  Speaker 2: he was out he would travel with the Grateful Dead.
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  Speaker 2: He was what you call a deadhead, right, and him
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  Speaker 2: and his best friend in the whole entire world would
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  Speaker 2: travel state to state to shows, and after each show,
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  Speaker 2: they would hitch a ride with random other deadheads to
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  Speaker 2: go to the next show. So they were leaving somewhere
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  Speaker 2: and they were trying to get a ride and they
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  Speaker 2: found a bus full of like random people that were
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  Speaker 2: going to the next show.
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  Speaker 1: But they only had room for one person.
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  Speaker 2: So they were kind of just trying to decide who
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  Speaker 2: should get on the bus and who shouldn't. And the
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  Speaker 2: friend ended up going on the bus. Okay, he said,
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  Speaker 2: I'll see you in the next state. Well he never
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  Speaker 2: made it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: They get on the bus and they were shooting Heroin.
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  Speaker 2: His friend had never done Heroin and he decided to
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  Speaker 2: try it, and he overdosed and these people pulled over
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  Speaker 2: on the side of the highway and like kicked his
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  Speaker 2: body and left him and he died.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So they had this group therapy session okay, where they
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  Speaker 2: set us all up in chairs to reenact inside the bus. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I picture this, So I was the driver, so I
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  Speaker 2: was like in the front, and then all the other
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  Speaker 2: kids like played random people. And then one of the
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  Speaker 2: kids that was there. Another patient played the friend, and
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  Speaker 2: then you had, you know, the kid that was the
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  Speaker 2: real patient there, and they told the kid to lay
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  Speaker 2: down like he was dying, and I'll just I'll never
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  Speaker 2: forget the kid was just screaming and crying over this
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote dead body, like why what? Just yelling like
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  Speaker 2: very very emotional and we were all just like sitting there,
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  Speaker 2: like what the fuck do we do? It was like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So at the time I did not think anything of it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it had a really really profound effect
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  Speaker 2: on me. I never forgot it. But when I got
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  Speaker 2: older and I would like tell people about it, they'd
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  Speaker 2: say to me, I don't think that that was the
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  Speaker 2: right thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Like is that legal what they do?
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  Speaker 2: So I asked my uncle about that, and he was
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  Speaker 2: beside himself. He goes, I don't that was not happening
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  Speaker 2: when I was there. I guess when he got there
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  Speaker 2: to take over, the place was not doing well, and
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  Speaker 2: so he kind of revamped the whole program, brought it
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  Speaker 2: back to life, made a bunch of changes. And I
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  Speaker 2: said to him, was it things like that you think
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  Speaker 2: as to why it wasn't doing good? And He's like,
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. He's like, but that is not
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  Speaker 2: something that I would ever do, and I cannot believe
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  Speaker 2: that actually happened. So yeah, it was just when I
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  Speaker 2: think about that story, it always stuck with me, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just crazy that at the time, at a young age,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think that it was wrong per se. But
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to my wife about it, and she
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know, as someone who works like in
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  Speaker 2: psych you know that's she called there was a name
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  Speaker 2: for it, that kind of treatment where you kind of
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  Speaker 2: reenact something that happened and try to, you know, get
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  Speaker 2: over it or you know, I don't know I would
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  Speaker 2: get over it's the right word, but you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. And she said, not a group setting like that,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. And a follow up to that story
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  Speaker 2: years later, probably ten years later, at least, I was
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  Speaker 2: in jail. I got arrested, I got put into jail,
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  Speaker 2: and I was in the holding tank at Cambridge Jail.
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  Speaker 2: And when they put me in the tank, there was
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  Speaker 2: one other person there. It was a guy, and he
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  Speaker 2: was sitting on the floor with his hands in his arms, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and he didn't look up for like an hour, didn't
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  Speaker 2: make a sound and then finally he woke up and
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  Speaker 2: picked his head up and he was all fucked up,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, hey, I introduced myself.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm justin. He said, hey, I'm whatever, and we're
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  Speaker 1: start talking. Hey, where you're from?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I know this dude from somewhere and
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't place it. So after talking to him for
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  Speaker 2: a while, I finally hit me it was that kid.
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  Speaker 2: It was the kid whose friend had died. And I
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  Speaker 2: said to him, will you and McLean hospital? And he
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  Speaker 2: said yeah, and obviously he was a drug addict and
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  Speaker 2: he was in there and I never saw him again.
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  Speaker 2: So just an interesting, really interesting moment there with my uncle.
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  Speaker 2: But it was so good to see him and everybody
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  Speaker 2: else in my family. You know, Happy birthday to my nephew,
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  Speaker 2: al baby al what's this Jay? And al you have
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  Speaker 2: baby j and then now baby Albie because Albi is
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  Speaker 2: obviously younger than Jay.
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  Speaker 1: So it was good.
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  Speaker 2: And my wife got her steak and cheese and she's
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  Speaker 2: heading down to see her best friend.
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  Speaker 1: So all is well.
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  Speaker 2: So I hope Mother's Day was fantastic for you. I
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  Speaker 2: hope you can share. You can leave a talk back
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  Speaker 2: and let let me know what happened, anything else that
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  Speaker 2: goes on in your life that you would like to share.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you want to hear your voice on the after show.
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  Speaker 2: You can always do so via the talk back. So
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a good week on the Billy and
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  Speaker 2: Lisa Show. Billy's doing this week, then he's headed off
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  Speaker 2: to the Azors. He'll be off next Monday and Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: That's part of a client thing that he's got going
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  Speaker 2: on that's sending him there on Azors Airlines.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool. We'll get him on the air this week
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't know. It's gonna be cool.
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  Speaker 2: My pool's opening, so that's good. Another season with the pool.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, hope to hear from you guys.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. Ba