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This White Woman's Burden?!?!! (House Of The Dragon Season Three Episode Three Review & Recap) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: Why do you think he's pushing for it so hard
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  Speaker 1: right now? Why isn't he giving it a little moment
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  Speaker 1: to breathe?
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  Speaker 2: Why doesn't he?
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  Speaker 3: And welcome in and ats to another episode of Castle Black,
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  Speaker 3: It is I one of your hosts as usual, Tatiana
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  Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent.
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  Speaker 3: Well, welcome back, Ben, Welcome back everybody. Thanks so much
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  Speaker 2: At four All Nerds Today.
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  Speaker 3: We are here to discuss season three of House of Dragons,
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  Speaker 3: Episode three titled Rainiera Triumphant, and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Funny that that was the title of the episode. It's
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  Speaker 4: very ironic in many different ways.
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  Speaker 3: I took it more as Venera's terrible, horrible, no good,
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  Speaker 3: very bad day, amongst other things. Before we get into
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  Speaker 3: the details of everything. What y'all think overall of this.
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  Speaker 4: Episode, It's kind of like whenever Bush put that banner
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  Speaker 4: on the ship, that was like mission accomplished, Like Ray
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  Speaker 4: near triumphant? Is Bush in the banner that mission accomplished,
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  Speaker 4: like no child left behind? Type shit, The mission accomplished
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  Speaker 4: for all all the intents and purposes of like creating
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  Speaker 4: a narrative and like stirring that up. All the things
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  Speaker 4: that we see in this episode kind of show us,
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  Speaker 4: like exactly why it's kind of futile to believe that
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  Speaker 4: just taking the throne is going to be enough to
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  Speaker 4: do anything that's long lasting. That's part of the Targaran legacy.
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  Speaker 4: There's more to it, and we've always known that, but
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing it a lot in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, what you thought?
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't my favorite episode of the first three. No,
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  Speaker 5: definitely not so far above the first We're on episode three,
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  Speaker 5: but it was a very good episode. I just think
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  Speaker 5: that these first three have been some of the best
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  Speaker 5: Game of Thrones since Duncan Egg. You know, you can
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  Speaker 5: has been the best Game of Thrones like this has
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  Speaker 5: really had me to the level of Game of Thrones
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  Speaker 5: when it first dropped, when it's like, yo, I can't
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  Speaker 5: wait for Sunday Night. So this wasn't up to those,
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  Speaker 5: but it's still excellent. I think you know, it's not
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  Speaker 5: as action path, but there were several just incredible moments
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  Speaker 5: just from the jump. I have to say, I just
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  Speaker 5: want to give a big shout out to this. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure the name of the director, but the opening
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  Speaker 5: sequence when you are Damon and you have the other dude,
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  Speaker 5: Ormond walking through his whole army, and you see the
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  Speaker 5: whole army laid out him walking through it, and then
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  Speaker 5: it's just a shot of Damon all by himself and
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  Speaker 5: you're like, what's that about? And then you know the
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  Speaker 5: reveal that it's just Damon and his three dragons, and
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  Speaker 5: it's like, this whole army ain't ship to this homes.
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  Speaker 5: Just that type of stuff is excellent, and then you
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  Speaker 5: know we were discussing this before the show. This also
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  Speaker 5: featured one of my favorite moments of all time, and
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  Speaker 5: that's cordlessw Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I have a little bit of both going on here.
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  Speaker 3: This was my favorite episode thus far. This was my
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  Speaker 3: and and we got we got what one, two, three,
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  Speaker 3: four five more to go? So so far this was
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  Speaker 3: my favorite episode and of course some of the reasons
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  Speaker 3: you stayed in Bend, particularly because it gave me kind
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  Speaker 3: of the old school Game of Thrones vibe just in
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  Speaker 3: terms of again, yes, we had the action, which was amazing,
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  Speaker 3: the ballotbal it was fantastic. And it's interesting because you
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  Speaker 3: guys said that was actually like a paragraph in the
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  Speaker 3: book and they were able to like really stress that
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  Speaker 3: out to something really meaningful, at least on camera. But
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  Speaker 3: the reason why is as mentioned, like it just reminded
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  Speaker 3: me of like the net Stark times, where like, now
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  Speaker 3: we got to get down to business. Now you got
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  Speaker 3: to get down to the nitty gritty, like, yes, there's
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  Speaker 3: this full incredible story of dragons and fighting and things
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  Speaker 3: of that, and now you got to actually govern.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It was very much like I was reminding of things,
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  Speaker 3: like the things that were happening, the decisions were being made.
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  Speaker 3: It was like you were trying to make King's Land
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  Speaker 3: and mom Donnahstan Like it was very interesting just in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the positionings and the political leanings and who
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  Speaker 3: are you going to listen to and who are you
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  Speaker 3: going to gather as people within your court, right, people
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  Speaker 3: within your your table. I forgot what the actual formal
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  Speaker 3: name of that is, but I just I just found
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  Speaker 3: a small council, right, Like, I just found it super
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  Speaker 3: interesting that, you know, we brought that back, and we
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  Speaker 3: also brought back the idea of like the individual, right
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  Speaker 3: like at the end of the day, like, yes, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be Queen oran Era, but like you gotta be queen?
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  Speaker 3: What does that entail? What does that mean? What does
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  Speaker 3: that mean for you? Like you have your own personal
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  Speaker 3: things you're going through. She just lost another son. She
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  Speaker 3: just lost in many different types of ways. And she
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  Speaker 3: lost not even lost, but she she was felt and
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  Speaker 3: was betrayed in many different ways.
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  Speaker 4: And now you.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta rebuild while people are demanding everything of you, and
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  Speaker 3: while especially come on ladies on your period, bro, like damn,
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  Speaker 3: give me a second, bro, give me a second the breeze.
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  Speaker 3: So but but it was very like intense in that way.
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  Speaker 3: So I really enjoyed this episode.
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  Speaker 5: I've got a question for Porsche on that note, because
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  Speaker 5: that was something I was thinking about, because it also
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  Speaker 5: reminds me, like you said, of Ned, but it really
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  Speaker 5: reminds me of when Danny took the throne. And that
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  Speaker 5: that leads to my question, through any of the Targarians
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  Speaker 5: throughout history, are they ever good at ruling? Because it's
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  Speaker 5: like they're conquerors. I know that they're great.
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  Speaker 4: Well, her father was good. The people liked her father.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, Saras okay well, but and Visara's was the one
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  Speaker 5: who didn't really do much conquering either.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: But and that that's also the big argument that Damon
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  Speaker 3: has right about what we're conquerors.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're Valerian blood.
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  Speaker 2: We're supposed to be, you know, spreading our seat across
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  Speaker 2: the county.
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  Speaker 3: But it's also like, but you want to be good
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  Speaker 3: to the people, and and and it's also the all
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  Speaker 3: of this also talks about the conflict that I brought
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  Speaker 3: up a lot Ben your position about the fact that
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  Speaker 3: you know, you have the small folk and these people
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  Speaker 3: in this realm is trying to live and then you
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  Speaker 3: have all these larger implications happening around them because you know,
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  Speaker 3: whether the fight for land or the fight for for power,
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  Speaker 3: or the fight for an empire, whatever it is, right
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  Speaker 3: like depending on whoever's in charge, and it's all he's
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  Speaker 3: boiling out at least in this era, boils down to
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  Speaker 3: this one family.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, Porsche do other than Viceras, does anyone ever
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  Speaker 5: any good and actual ruling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think it's interesting because they keep carving
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  Speaker 1: back to the.
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  Speaker 4: First egg on who was the conqueror, and he he
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  Speaker 4: took advantage of what was already going well in Westerners
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  Speaker 4: at the time, and they he also kind of like
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  Speaker 4: like with this two sisters being like right beside him
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  Speaker 4: on the journey of like we're going to make this work.
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  Speaker 4: Then they like kind of strong armed all the high
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  Speaker 4: houses to actually do what needs to be done for
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  Speaker 4: to govern the kingdom.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so it was it was better.
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  Speaker 4: The fear factor may have led for stories to be
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  Speaker 4: told about his regency as in a higher regard than
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  Speaker 4: maybe he actually did, but that one is regarded well,
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  Speaker 4: I have because because they recycle names so much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having I'm trying to like, remember, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty sure it's either a couple of generations from now
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  Speaker 4: or a couple generations before Visara's there is I'm pretty
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  Speaker 4: sure it's afterwards. But the way the world is just
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  Speaker 4: set up. I'm kind of like lost pleasing it right now,
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  Speaker 4: there is two people that kind of rule the throne,
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  Speaker 4: like their brother and sister also married.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and they are.
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  Speaker 4: She kind of like she's a little bit it's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit less incestuous, but it's still kind of incestuous
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  Speaker 4: because it's Garbarians and they are known for being like
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  Speaker 4: the wisest rulers that the kingdom's ever had. Like they
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  Speaker 4: she's really good, Like she gave Rides a dragon, So
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'm pretty sure it's like before Visara's they
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  Speaker 4: both write dragon writers. She's the one who ends up
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  Speaker 4: governing the wall, becoming like more of a stronghold and
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  Speaker 4: less of a just kind of throwaway kind of thing
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  Speaker 4: because of the vision, because of them, like having the
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  Speaker 4: prophecy about the ice and the like long winter and
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  Speaker 4: all that. She takes it very seriously, so does like
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  Speaker 4: her husband. So then like she they set up this
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  Speaker 4: whole thing where like the Starks, and we do get
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the story from the Starks, right like
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  Speaker 4: the series, they hold Queen Alison and like this very
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  Speaker 4: like high regard, and Jaharis is the king and those
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  Speaker 4: are the two Targarians. I think they have the like
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  Speaker 4: of all the popularity like ratings. They probably have the
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  Speaker 4: highest in all histories of the Targarians. But there's a
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  Speaker 4: couple of other rains that like they're not as bad.
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  Speaker 4: And there's some people who would argue that Regar, who
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  Speaker 4: was Danny's older brother who got killed by Rob king Rob,
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  Speaker 4: if he had I'd ran a throne, people feel like
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  Speaker 4: he would have done a decent job. Also, people feel
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  Speaker 4: like he may not have because he was kind of
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  Speaker 4: like a poet warrior kind of thing, and people were like, well,
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  Speaker 4: he could have been good, or he could have been
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  Speaker 4: tied up in court stuff, like he may not. He
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  Speaker 4: may have just wanted to run away because he tended
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  Speaker 4: to run away from so.
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  Speaker 2: They thought he was a bitch got it not.
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  Speaker 4: Necessarily not necessarily because like they like like his father
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  Speaker 4: was the mad king and he was like playing like.
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  Speaker 1: Well said poetry.
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  Speaker 2: I thought like was he being like smart about it?
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  Speaker 1: Was he?
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  Speaker 4: Because it was like very shrewd. He was like he's
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  Speaker 4: like I'm doing my ship. I know my dad is
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  Speaker 4: over here, Like I can't do too much because he
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  Speaker 4: might do something crazy if for me and.
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  Speaker 1: Not let me just pay my parts.
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  Speaker 4: God he's over here doing his shit, So I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: he's not really necessarily seen badly but in some ways.
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  Speaker 3: But people there, so people don't necessarily have like confidence
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  Speaker 3: in him either kind of could go either way. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: a right, So it seems like to answer your question, man,
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  Speaker 3: is I don't know, maybe like it's like there's some
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  Speaker 3: kind of the kind of like the dynasty isn't all
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  Speaker 3: the way screwed, Like.
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  Speaker 5: There are some shaking that magic eight balls that's not
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  Speaker 5: really not really.
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  Speaker 4: Any dynasty though, like any sports dynasty or whatever, like
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  Speaker 4: are they always winners?
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  Speaker 1: Are they always good teams?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Are they always.
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  Speaker 5: Nasty?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: When right, I'm gonna say like there was one team
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  Speaker 3: that was winning for like fifteen years straight, like so
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but that all that
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  Speaker 3: being said, thank you for that backstory, thank you for
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  Speaker 3: that understanding.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I think.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like I don't know, maybe they're more like
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  Speaker 5: the dynasty of the Buffalo Bills where they went four
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  Speaker 5: times to the super Bowl and lost every time, Like
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  Speaker 5: you got there, but well I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Know that that thing happen to wins. That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they're more like, yeah, like the Buffalo Bills, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they got to the super Bowl four straight times, but.
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  Speaker 1: But they win the super Bowls. So what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: that's Hurgarians.
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  Speaker 4: They get they do have a couple of winners in there,
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  Speaker 4: So I'm saying maybe they're more like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's get into the details of the episode.
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  Speaker 3: Because what was another reason why I like this, which
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  Speaker 3: was because it was comical. It was like, so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: first shout out to Damon for locking in. This man
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  Speaker 3: locked in from the beginning of this of the battles
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  Speaker 3: he made sure people was but he was supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be bad news came he said, oh well, we got
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  Speaker 3: to keep it pushing. He said, hey, Ranera, you got
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  Speaker 3: to stand on business ten toes down, take.
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  Speaker 4: That man out. We got to make this right. So
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  Speaker 4: and durrop episode.
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  Speaker 3: That's all he did was lock in and tell her,
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  Speaker 3: bro you still got to do this, like you still
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  Speaker 3: got murder. And every every turn whenever Vanera was like
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: kind of faltering or being like, well, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: he was like, but you know, you.
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  Speaker 4: Have to kill this bastard, right, like, like.
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  Speaker 3: I love that, but but more more more on the
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  Speaker 3: comedy side, the fact that, as mentioned when Raniera, you
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  Speaker 3: are gonna be queen, but it means you got to
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  Speaker 3: be queen, you have to govern the realm, you have
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  Speaker 3: to deal with these people you and right away, like
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  Speaker 3: people don't even give her a chance. She I don't
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  Speaker 3: think she even fully properly grieved before Niggas was asking
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  Speaker 3: her for shit. And not only that, she comes into
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  Speaker 3: a very ghetto situation. First, Keith Lannon ain't got no money.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently where the money went all of a sudden. Nobody
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  Speaker 3: knows what's going on. Allison don't know. The master coin
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  Speaker 3: may hit it somewhere, and he's.
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  Speaker 4: Gone, as far as I understand, right right right, he's gone,
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  Speaker 4: and and and no one knows nothing except for that
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  Speaker 4: the money is money is out of here.
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  Speaker 3: So you have a situation where you ain't got no money.
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  Speaker 3: People are complaining that it's low stores of food. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: there's no game around or there's low game around like
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  Speaker 3: like it's it's literally the pride Lands got ravaged and
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  Speaker 3: the people who were responsible, the hyaenas responsible, ain't nowhere
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  Speaker 3: to be found.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just like, so what do you do now?
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  Speaker 3: Now you you've basically inherited a mess and how do
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  Speaker 3: you fix that?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Again, very indicative.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of leaders that we've seen come up that
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  Speaker 3: you know, ended up being you know, servants of the people.
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  Speaker 3: But it was it was also comedy because you just
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  Speaker 3: Rainier was getting just people just in her face and
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  Speaker 3: ear left and right, like.
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  Speaker 2: I need this, I need that, and she needs too.
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  Speaker 3: Now, before I get into more things to talk to you,
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  Speaker 3: let y'all talk more about that, just the situation that
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  Speaker 3: she's been put in.
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  Speaker 4: I just want the situations she put herself in. I
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  Speaker 4: should say, yeah, she's a lot to blame for it.
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  Speaker 4: I do want to say though that like the way
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  Speaker 4: you just set it up kind of reminded me, like
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  Speaker 4: do we think that r near?
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  Speaker 1: It could be Mom, Donnie, Like she comes in, she's.
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  Speaker 3: Trying, but she listened to Missaria and that's what I'm
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  Speaker 3: That's the is the parallel I'm making. She's listening to
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  Speaker 3: Masaria like, Yo, everything's in shambles with go with sticking
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  Speaker 3: with the people to try to, you know, have them
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  Speaker 3: raise you up.
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  Speaker 2: Remember Massaria is also of the common folk.
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  Speaker 3: Like she's like, look, I'm trying to get you, get
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  Speaker 3: your base right, get your foundation right, and they will
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  Speaker 3: hold you up.
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  Speaker 4: I just think that's funny as a setup like came
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: into a very bad trying to like the will of
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  Speaker 4: the people, Like is that gonna be you're stating that
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  Speaker 4: we think Nire is gonna ever like be on mom
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  Speaker 4: Donnie's side, like Mam Donnie kind of grew Like really,
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Think the patter a ball has Ben says, says no.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: But but like but like think about her like upbringing
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: and how she sees the world, like right, like she
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: is she really gonna like be a person of the people.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: We even heard her, Joe, We've heard I mean political
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: does the bare minimum. She does what's necessary to check
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: people because she needs to be able to like build
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: power in some way. She's not actually about that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Course, she gives people a bit of swag bags and says,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: oh this, you know, and she does it again under
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: the the suggestion of Missaria like oh you know, and
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: they know she knows it's not enough, like that's gonna
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: get them through the week at most if that, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: then what what do you do now? So like she's
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: what I see Raniara doing is a lot of temper
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: rarey measures and things to try to like hold people
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: at bay for the moment.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: None of this is long term because she's not prepared.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: She's not prepared for long term, which is interesting, like
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: throughout all of this fighting, all of this pushing, it
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: almost feels like there was no plan, like what is the.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Longest Not exactly knew, but where was the plan?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And maybe this was the fault because she couldn't trust
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: her small council back at Dragonstone, like there was no
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: conversation like Okay, so when we get there, if shit
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: is this way, we're gonna do this. If shit is
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: that way, we're going to do that. But I just
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: feel like you showed up and I was like, okay,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I'm queen. Now what I feel like?
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: That's when I when I say she set herself up,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Like that's what I mean, Like she people are calling
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: it the tiny council, like there's like three people in
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: a room with her, because it's like, are you a
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: cordless and datement? No third is it? And so it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: like she set herself up because she was ready, like
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: she either you're going to be in a combat space
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: or you're going to be in a governing space. You
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: trying to do both at the same time with limited
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: three people, it's just foolhardy in a.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Way that is like I don't understand what you want
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: And I think that with like her having mistrust in
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: her queen's guard, her having mistrust in her small counsel
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: back and Dragonstone, like there's so much that was warped
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: within that relationship and that dynamic that like if she
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: were a better student of people and networks and stuff
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: and had built up stuff with people, she would be
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: able to use them as far as she needs them
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and then move, like move them out of position based
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: on what she gets.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Her needs met.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Like, Okay, I can't trust like even the person that
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: she has. She's like, I can trust Damon to a point.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Who's going to be my king's guard like hers, that's
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: his strength, right, But like even whenever the guy is
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: following her, she's having the same mistrust. We see her
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: like looking back, like she doesn't trust the guy who's
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: with her, and she like she only feels safe when she's.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: In the room with Damon.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't trust either. I mean we even
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: see that like figuratively and literally as she's walking and
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: this is a Eggon's fault, but agon discard. But as
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: she's walking through the castle, there's nothing barrets everywhere. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: that's that's obviously, you know, that's supposed to be symbolic,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: you know, besides myself a little it's nothing barrets everywhere
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: she turns, everywhere she steps, everywhere she goes. You can't
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: trust what's there, you can, And then the stuff that
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: is there, it's like that is a something that you
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: want to get away from.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: So she is surrounded by rats.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I mean you see the workers within the castle pulling
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: out on the green shit and putting away.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: And Nigga is saying, oh, you know, I was always
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: with you. I was always down with you. I was
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: always down.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: With the blacks all getting and then and you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and she even saying, well, no one ever told me
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: that you was down with me. You know, you was
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: pretty quiet when shit was going left for me, Like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: where was your loyal you know, where was your outward
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: where was.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Your loud loyalty?
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: What do they say about people?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: They say, you know, when when when the ship gets rough,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: everybody quiet.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But when everything's good.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: When everything you know is everything's tasty, you out there
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: eating with me.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Where was you before?
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Not shooting in the gym?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Not shooting in the gym? And and that's the thing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It's like, you got all these people saying, oh, oh,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I just want you to know, like living people can
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: say this. M So it was just again why I
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: thought it was so calmed. They was like, oh, I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: always always fuck with your father. I always fun with
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: your father. You know, I knew you was the one
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: you I been knew, So where was you when? And
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I'm saying you were trying to save your life, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: was trying to get beheaded. But where was you when
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I needed you to stand up for me? You show
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: up now after the fact. And it's kind of similar
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: like when we had that conversation about the other episode
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: when when when Jace was killed and the King's guard
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: was saying, oh, well take my head.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: What that gonna do for me?
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Now? She did still make sure that he got his head,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: taking the one word the other.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: The point is, where was you? And now that everything
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: is all good, now you're here like, oh, you know
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I was always I was always down for the cause.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I was always down for the tigeris okay? I don't
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: trust you, so that's I said.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I don't blame her.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I don't blame it, but but it's also a problem,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: right to your point, Portia, it's also a problem because
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: if you're in constant state of paranoia and constant state
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: of dis mistrust of everybody, every team, when are you
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: going to be able to.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Get to a point of action?
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Right You're always going to be an analysis paralysis.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: And famously on this show, I've always been you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: not anti Team Black, but more anti team idiots. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: I can't really say that anyone at this point, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: is very much playing the game. Well, I think Ray
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: is doing the best she can. You know, she's like
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Mariah Carry right now, but she can with what I got,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: you know, straight up, that's all she can do right now.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: But portion like you said, it's also kind of of
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: her own making. Like I get it that the Small
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Council did, you know, kind of betray you, But who
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: else you got Like.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: They legitimately betrayed her though they did they locked her ass,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: but it was on her son, you know, it was
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: like her small tussel where they but what the Small
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Council effed up the most because like they sked up
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: with so many different ways where they get with the
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: most in this current air of it is like one
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: not having worked out with ray Nira, Okay, what are
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: our what are the phases of what we're doing.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: We're gonna like we're go in combat or whatever.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: How much combat do we need to like when we
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: know we've done enough to be able to take on whatever.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Whenever she came to them with like, Okay, we're gonna
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: get kings landing, they're gonna be they could have they
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: all they said was we think it's a trap.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't do this.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: What should have happened is that they said, we think
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: it's a trap. Perhaps you shouldn't do this, but in
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the if it does work out, this is what we
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: can do.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. This is what needs to be a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: phase in.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: And they weren't like they the lack of support they
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: had for her and the way they showed it, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: it was like not conducive to there actually be anything
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: worked on together by collaborative.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: It's like at least put on the facade like.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: You're trying to help me, Like don't actually just sit
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: in nothing like actually try and seem like you're doing
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: something today.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: And also on that note, though she never told them
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that Alison think right, she never let them in on
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: that that she's been talking to Alison and Alison trying
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: to open the gate.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: That they set it up.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like somebody she didn't Sorry she told Yes,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: she told people on the tiny council, but she didn't
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: tell people on the small council. So when she's like, yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna ride in there, they're like, sure, are you
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: about to get yourself murdered?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But I'm sorry.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: O were like a better baster of whispers like she
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: would have like at least knows, at least one more
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: person on the council she could have made start doing
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: procedures like maybe they don't need to know why.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: She don't really, but they don't really fuck with her.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: They don't fuck with you know, they don't fuck with Ray.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: They don't fuck with her.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So you but you that's the whole point of politics.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: You gotta get it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: You got to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Make someone, make them like someone's on your small council.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: They need to be someone who is going to be
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: that like alliance between Liaison, between you and the people
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: that you don't Fox with somebody.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Got to do it and not take orders from your son.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: You know, you said mom Donnie earlier. And I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: the more app uh comparison is to Obama because you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: while Obama does look good and we all love him
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: and everything, he kept on bombing and doing everything America
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: is really great at with no problem. You know, he
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: never really stopped any of that stuff. So that's more
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: of what Ray is about. You know, she don't keep
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: on bombing with her dragons and doing that type of thing.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: See what works out for you.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That you how do you feel about that?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Like we that was something that stood out to me
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: because I I know how.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Much it's is foreshadowing into later stuff. So I'm trying
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: not to like put to the book readers, trying not
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to like spoil us. I get it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I'm yeah, I'm not trying to get too out there.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: But how did you feel about the Septon saying to her.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: That don't an enemy of us?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: That but that part But.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: That's what the Stevens always say, Like every already said
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: this before. We've seen this with with like how they've
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: reacted to Circe like we you know this, But how
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: do you feel about the Septon saying that like dragons
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: are like arcane, dark magical, they're not, but they're not
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: related to the seven at all. Like like they're trying
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: trying to like basically mitigate the idea that there's any
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: divine rights through religious dragons that not only the like,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: but not only that Nier because we already know they
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: felt a way about Rainier being on the Greens too.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: That yeah, but that the direct because the Greens, that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: The Greens old town, like, that's all like, that's what related.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: That's all old world, like the Septans and stuff they train,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: is there. So like the way that the culture is
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: like the high towers, the Greens like they have more
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: sway with the like the religion, like with the Sevens,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: like the Septs and all of that stuff than they
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: do then like the Targarians do because again their conquerors,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: they came from old Oliria, that doom of all that stuff,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: which we can get into in a second they'll talk
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: about Damon. But this is what I think about that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: But if you think about like them, like the idea
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: that the Targarians should even like have dragons and dragons,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: this is what they said, Dragons are destruction. Dragons are
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: they're not creation, yea. But yeah, this is what I think.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: This is the way of all churches. And I'm sorry
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to say this, this.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Is even in in in common times, modern real life,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of the times, a lot of stuff is
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: driven by jealousy and power.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, this is the churches.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: And again this is not talking about anyone one particular
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: religion in real life or otherwise. This is when we're
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: talking about as a function of a state, right like
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you have the the the church state, and you have
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the state of the state, right like the government. Right
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the church in this particular sense and Game of Thrones
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: is an entity that wields a certain amount of power,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: is an entity that wills a certain amount of influence,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: and they're not going to let anything get in their way.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: That is indicative of many different religions. It's one way
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of thinking, a very very simplified way is saying about
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: when I mentioned jealousy, right, like, you have something that's
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: clearly powerful, it's clearly physically incapably powerful. When we're talking
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: about dragons and everything behind that where they came from,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: and whether it's dark magic kind of doesn't really matter
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the fact is it's an opposing force to saying, oh,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the seven gods and all this other. This is something
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: that's clearly okay, seven gods, that's cool, drakars.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another level.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: So you and we've seen that even in the original
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, that there's always been a fight between
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: the Church and the House of the Dragon, right, Like
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: there's always been a situation that because that is a
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: threat to their power. So I was laughing when the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: scepter was saying on that and getting and getting breaking
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: bad on deneracause I was just like, here we go
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: again with the typical oh well, you know, the church
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: is big.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: The church is bigger than the program.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: That's how I felt about it, Like he was trying
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: to drive that narrative that oh, no matter what, like
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: you know, you still you're in our pocket, Like we're
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: like the Church has always seen themselves above the monarchy,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Like okay, cool, but you need me to divine divinate you, right,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you need me to call you a saint or this
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: or that, right, because and then and and that is
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: how they're taught, that's how they think it is what
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: it is. But that is always going to be an
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: opposing view. His idea of about this being dark magic.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I did see some stuff online when they were like, oh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you know the people like I'm not misstar, but what
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: was the name of that witch from.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: The original Red Red Priests?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Like the red they're saying those Red priestesses and witches
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and all that whatever, whatever their proper names are, Like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: they're involved in that, right, And again you're talking about
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: another group that is in the direct opposition of the
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Lord of the Light. Yeah, is in direct opposition to
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the Church, right, and they're going to align just like
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: anything that you read, They're going to align anything contrary
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to their cause to being evil or being.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Of not of of of creation or not of this
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: or not of that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Now, one can argue in some ways they're right because
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: every time you see a dragon, niggas getting blown up, right,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: niggas getting lit up like birthday candles, we get it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Like anytime you see a bunch.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Of dragons, well more than one dragon in one place,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: you know it's about to be a problem. That's they're
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: not wrong in that case, right. But also I think
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: this goes back to Ben's original question. Has there ever
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: been good that has come from it?
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Right, Like, no, no, and that, But that was not
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: my question.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: My question when you know what I'm saying, you say,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: has ever been a good it all goes together man,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: when you said, has ever been a good targarian leader?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: The fact is that everything around them is about dragons.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: They became in it because they got a fucking dragon.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Let's be real, let's be real.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Answer, So is there anything.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Positive about the aspect of dragons? Is what I'm getting at.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: The Church can argue that all day. Small folk can
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: argue that all day. But it's also like you can,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: there's both sides. But the point I'm trying to make
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: is it comes down to a battle of power and
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: a battle of influence and what they feel what someone
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: else feels is right and wrong, which is again the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: church trying to make things their way.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it, yep.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: And that being said, I don't think that the Church
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: or the dragons, neither one does good for the world.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: You know, the Church can claim that they're about creation,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: but they're doing just as much destruction as not behind
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: the scenes.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're on the scale of a dragon.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Because we're talking about religion.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Here we're talking about things that take over whole lands
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: and people and.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Error or generation just so no.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: On the scale of a dragon, just differently, just differently.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: So yeah, no, they're both destructive, et cetera. But yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I just felt like you said that was just him
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: trying to claim rights, you know, getting the power, putting
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: the power, saying this whole episode, a lot of it
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: was about, you know, her claim to fame, like whether
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: or not she is the rightful queen of it all
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: because you know, Corliss definitely questions her publicly, the church
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: won't align with her, she has no counsel. All these
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: things are like, yo, you know, is she the right
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: one for the job? And this is her test and
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: you know, so far she's doing okay.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: It's also it goes back to the questions that again
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: when we talk about feeling betrayed.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Are they doing this because she's a woman?
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: M yes, just has to keep and I want to
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: make sure I guess not get lost in this conversation.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Does this keep happening because she's a woman. Yeah, But
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: when they question, even though.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: She is lying through teeth, when she says, oh, let's
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: just talk, that says dead but.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: If someone else had said it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah it was Jase and he was a little older, right,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and would they have questions If it was.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: A man, she would have never got locked in the room,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: So this wouldn't have gone down like that, no way,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: shape or form. So yeah, no, it is all because
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: a woman, and I think her you know, being on
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: her period. This episode is like the capstone of that
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: where it's like, yeah, this is a woman, and throughout
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: all this she has to deal with being a queen
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: even though you know, she's like a man would have
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: to deal with being a king in the same way,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: but he wouldn't be getting tested at every angle and
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: then have the you know, physical side of it as
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: well to deal with, plus the grief, et cetera. You know.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: So yeah, this is a lot of that. The two
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: themes in this episode are really about, you know, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: it's not about is it a woman right for the job,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: It's just what a woman will go through when she
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: gets the job.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I would argue that her small counsel wouldn't be like
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: she would have a better relationship with their small counsel
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: if she were a man. Oh yeah, I would argue
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: that the I don't know I just feel like there's
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: different things that are happening when it comes to when
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: people curry trying to look to curry favor or whatever. Like,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the people, like the
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: head made or whatever coming up to her in the
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: hallway would not have happened if she were a man
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: like because there's and there's you know, there's there's two
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: ways to think about it, because I think one, there's
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: like a lot of philosophy I'm like in, but I
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: think one the way that like the court is set up,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: and I mentioned this last episode, We've never seen a
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: queen ruler of west Rows before. We've seen queens as
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: companions and you know, I forget what they call the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: concert queen consorts before. So there are queens who have
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: like done things of their own volition with the like
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: favor and resources from the king to do like you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: kind of like Michelle Obama and the.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Move campaign or whatever.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Like they've like they will get support to do the
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: thing they do as first lady, but like they're not
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: running the kingdom.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: This is the first time we're seeing like a.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Queen run the kingdom and they're people in the Castle's
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: first thing to do is to talk directly to her
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: rather than talk to someone.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Who is reparable with her.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and clearly not Damon, who is like if it
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: were like if it were king and a queen, then
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: it would be right to go to the first person,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: right like to the not to the person who's a ruler,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: but their first, their consort. So they don't go to Damon.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: They go directly to her because she's a woman, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: they're used to women fulfilling the role of like taking
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: on the house household all that stuff, so like her
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: chamberlain and stuff like that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have become her. You should have been going
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to someone else's representative about the household.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: And she barely had anybody but she has and she
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: but she got cordless halfway.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: She wouldn't feel comfort. They should not feel comfortable coming
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: to her, is what I'm saying.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: They're right the.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: First even want to approach her.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: She is she is your grace at the end of
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the day, just pull.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Up about candles and ship like right.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they was talking about the candles and and and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: we need some more talent. I was just like, but
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: that's but then I asked, when I asked earlier, what
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: was the plan, Like, what was the governance plan? It
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: seemed like, Okay, I got the castle, I beheaded for cool. Oh,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: now I gotta take care of a whole million people
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: work the city, Like I just it just felt like
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: an unfinished plan, Like now I'm installed on the throne
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: kind of now what I'm like, there is no protocol
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and that's what say. It's like, I fully agree with you, Portia.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: And on top of that, also, you know, in parallel
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: there is no protocol. There's just like pull down all
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: the green shit, put up my pictures. Okay, how do
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I Who do I talk to when I need something done?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Who is there? And and everything is a mess.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: So it's like I also kind of get why these
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: these commoners are just kind of just talking to her, Like, well,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: you seem to be the only real nigga in charge,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: so I'm just gonna talk to the realist nigga in
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: the room command era.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because they don't know the master whispers, I mean
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: the master whispers.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: They're not supposed to because that's what really Messori is role.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: She's supposed to do shit on.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: The side for her.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't know who she is. Basically, you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: she ain't gonna be the one who's like, I'm the whisperer,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: you know. And then they know Corlis, but they can't
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: talk to Corlers, and they know Damon and.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: They know who David is.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Why is cordless more formidable than the queen? But for
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: what you mean for that not to talk.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: About but exactly, yeah, but that's your point in your
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: point is solid. I also took it as rainier and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: never said, oh, don't go talk to this nigga over here.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: It was always everyone was coming to her, and it
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: was never mitigated. It was just I have no plan. Well,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: no one's telling me not to talk to you. I've
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: been in that situation where I'm doing an event, no
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: one's telling me who to talk to. So I'm gonna
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: go to whoever, as mentioned, who's the realer's nick in
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the room. That's the person who gonna get it done
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: And then also of the three one, okay, whisper, I
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: don't know, I'm not asking Damon ship and then you
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: know all this, yeah, like I'm trying to keep my
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: head so I'm not asking Damon shit. And then Corlan's like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I probably ain't asking that nigga shit either.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: You know, like she is even formally named Hand was
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: basically functioning.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: And this nigga's like the sea snake. You know, it's
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: like this nigga's also a legendary nigga. Like I'm not
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: approaching this nigga, you know.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: But that to speaks back to portious point like oh,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: you're too legendary to talk to, but you could talk,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: but but you could bring yourself to queen.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. Well, it ain't no respect to your
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: fam Like that's you know, that's what it is. Respect
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: level is low.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Everything's a mess, like it's a lot going on within
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: this episode again we see that stuff is in disarray
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: from a governor's perspective, stuff is in disarray from a
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: like day to day perspective.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Raniera is literally grasping.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: For straws and like, y'all gotta give me a minute.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about this situation with her and Cordless.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, before we get to that, though, then can we
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: talk about I have to bring this up because I
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: haven't been around in a while, and you know, I
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: always say that she sent her son loose to get eight,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: and you know she doesn't even have flashbacks to that boy, right.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: You know, so you're talking about the fact that she
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: saw Jason's ghosts in the hallway, but you're saying she
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: never saw loose is you don't know what the lady saw.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Stop doing that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: No, and for real, The practical reason is that Louse
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: has probably grown so much that we wouldn't recognize him,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: and they brought him back. So that's why they do
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: give her the jaseone. But yes, now to lose Jace
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Well.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Joy not dead.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: He's just in the bad.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, he's just a bastard. That's what I'm
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: not saying. I'm getting to Corless. He ran down the
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: line and said, Louise, he's a Boston.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: No, Like it goes back to what I said. This
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: whole episode is about questioning her legitimacy and my man's right.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: You know that's the thing. Like this is one of
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: those situations where I really felt for Cordless, Like he's like, yo,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I stood with you. My brother called you out, uh
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: very on what's his brother's man, Vaymon? Vaymon called you out.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Got his head took for it. You know, I hurt
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: he wasn't in the room. Corliss was lost to see
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: at the point, right, or he was unconscious one of these.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Oh when got beheaded.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he heard. He definitely heard because Raymon said
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: out after the fame. I mean everyone heard. Ymon was like, yo,
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: you your kids bastards, and then he got his head
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: brut off. So he knows that, you know, everyone knows
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: your kids bastards. And I've been defending these bastards this
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: whole time, and you won't legitimize my bastards.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: So so your take is that Corliss wasn't wrong.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: No, but it's fucked because it's just one of those situations.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: It's just like with everything in this you know you
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: ain't wrong, but this is not the time, fam you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: like this is not real.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Cl I think that was That's my real question. Why
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: do you rich As.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Is always you know, like, I'm sorry, Corlis is a bitch, Like.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Why do you think he's pushing for it so hard
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: right now? Why isn't he giving it a little moment
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to breathe?
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Why doesn't he is a bit.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: More more more specifically, because he has nothing else going. Remember,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: drift Mark is on drift Mark is in chambers. Drift
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: mark is addressed all right, drift marks at the bottom
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: of the seat with the little mermaid. Basically, he has
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: basically no fleet. He most of his family, with the
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: exception of like his grands are gone, you know, his bastards.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: He has no no coin he and all he got
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: is his name.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: So and oh sorry, just back to him being a bitch.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: He does have granddaughters, right, who have friends his grand
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: they're Targarians. But here's the that's the that's the thing.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: One of their daughters.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: So tar gonna write and then two, yeah, he wants
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: his name.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: He wants his name, and but we'll go ahead.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Before I go go ahead, Uh tell Portia, you were
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: just saying why does he want it?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Now? Like why does he want because like, here's my thing.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: But I think it is happening is that he like
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: a more savvy political and he has shown himself to
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: be political savvy when he feels like doing it. A
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: person would be like, okay, I see that. The one
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: everyone knows that the way to get a title is
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: to have the crown at in debt to yes, right
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: right now, She's not gonna be looking at anything that
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: he's doing for her cause as her being indebted to
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: him because he put his name to her cause.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: This family, one band, one sound, we're doing this together.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: This is like my cousin says, Okay, I'm gonna help you.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Now you expect me to give you an extra thousand
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: dollars like you.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Was already the benefiting from the relationship. What are we
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? So?
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Like everyone knows, the main way to get any kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: of by the crown is to have the crown in
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: your debt in some way, why not allow it some
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: time for her his sons to do something where they
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: would distinguish themselves enough to.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Put her in no other place, but to reward them
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: with that. That's a question.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Too, seeing how he knows he's putting a part of
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: the high house. He's a high house Valarian's or a
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: high house. Knowing how that all works.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: What about the current situation makes you think.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: That her she's already scrambling trying to be legitimate in
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: some way? How is her legitimizing your sons, which she's
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: not even seen as fully legitimate herself right now?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Seems like a right thing to do.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: So you're gonna say, so, if this all turns over,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: goes toffee turvy and she's out. You're gonna be sitting
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: around like what the last queen who was queen for
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: two days?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: She legitimized my sons, like what are you? What are
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: we doing? That's my question?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, the man has been he's he
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: wasn't you know, the strongest of character before any of this,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: and now he's been pushed to the limit straight up
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: in that like you know, his home is burn pushes
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: you know, his home burnt to the ground, his fleet
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: is gone. He's got these two bastards and that's and
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: his eyes. That's all he's got left because you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: once again he's a bitch and ignores his granddaughters. Do you, dragons,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: do you.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Think the mortality has anything to do with it?
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: You think that him like seeing he still him in
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: it there made made him like let me get this
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: urgency up or.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Not just not just for a minute, cause remember Leanord,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: he's a li believe Layn there is alive.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: He's just chilling, you know, off in Beigi.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Somewhere we saw him like on a robot out of there.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: He's often feeding somewhere, but for all intents and purposes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: He's not there, he's not part of the family anymore.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: So really he sees it as he has nothing. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: this is this is where I was wanted to go
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: when it came to this conversation about Cordless, because this
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: is there's two schools of thoughts.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: That I'm seeing.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: That one really towards what Benn is saying about him
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: being a bitious because he he chooses now like now
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: that he has nothing left that now he wants to
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: legitimize because he has ambitions of keeping his lineas and
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: he says as much.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: He says that he has.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: No blood left, right like this is after he dies,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: his blood line ends. He says that to Ranera, right
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: And one can look at that and say, okay, well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: this is ambition driven. This is ego driven, like you
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: want to keep your house alive. Even Vaymin, when you
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: mentioned Vaymen that I mean because I told you about that,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: just the fact that I saw the palels there. It
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: was a little different the way Daman did it, but
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: it was also kind of the same where like he
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: was talking Vaymon.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Said about the survival of his house.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: And that is also like at the end of the day,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: you can say that's ambition, that's ego, but it's also legitimate.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Like at the end of the day, you do you
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: don't you never want your family to die? Once I'm dead,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: that means there's no more Valarians, right like and that
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: means the dragon you know blood, the old Valeria blood
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: line continues without me and we don't exist no more.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Basically like that is like that is can be terrifying.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I think I want to give some credence to that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: That's terrifying that your family line is done after this
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: if I don't hurry up and install some more people
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: to continue my.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Seed, if you will.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: But so in that case, I see that it's not
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: necessarily ambition. This is about survival. That's what Veyman says, right,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: But then he takes it ten steps too far and
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: when he goes off in the conversation. And that's kind
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: of what happens with Cordla's because Corlas, Corliss and Vayment
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: are similar that way, where like they say their peace
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: and then when the person is like, well not right
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: now or nah, or this is not the time instead
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: of like okay, let's talk about another time, he gets
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: mad immediately and goes off like and it's like, it's
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: so funny because what's interesting is you're not supposed to
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: look at them as quote black people, Like how how
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: you know we are black in America? But he was
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: just like, well, he said, tell me what's so different
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: about your baskets versus my basses?
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: And I said, cause you a nigga.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: And I said that from a common perspective. I know
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: that's not really the reason, but it's just interesting when
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: you see like the level of awkwardness, like when they
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: sit when they're sitting in the in the dinner Corliss,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Adam Allen and RAYNERA and he's talking, he's he's prepping
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Rayner like.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm about to ask you to legitimize them. This
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: is all I got.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: And she's like, uh yeah, I see the resemblance.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Like it's just the funniest ridiculous things that are happening.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: But it comes to kind of what you're saying, port
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: It kind of comes down to but right now, when
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: you know, like shit is like we're not even on
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: solid foundation anywhere within this presidency.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Right We're not.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: There is no solid an this administration. Thank you, that's
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: a better association.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: But then to miss.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Sure, there's no solid footing and now you want this done.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: But is this because you was running your mouth to
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Alan and Adam talking about oh, I'm about to make
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: y'all in my ears?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Like is it because you're trying to cover yourself?
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Right? Yes?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I'm saying it's too school the door.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, there's the ambition and the ego driven
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: you're trying to cover yourself. And also there is a
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: true survival component to this, like yes, at the end
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: of the day, the house of Valarian, but even though
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: he has granddaughters, but they're not they're not Valarian. My
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: name Careians. You know what I'm saying, At the end
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: of the day, does this mean you continue? And I
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: don't even know what happened in the books and what
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: happens with that household?
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: And well, I just had a real Debbie Downer moment
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: right there when I was thinking about it, And you
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: don't have to know what happens in the books, because
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: I just realized that there's a in Dame of Thrones
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Valerians was not mentioned. You know, it's all about the
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Targarians and then the dragon.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: They were a high house yeah, and the drag still like,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: here's a couple of different things that came to my mind,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: and I didn't want to like talkoven for you, So.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Now I'm done. Yeah, that's I mean basically the Valerians. Yeah,
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: I do not see his aspirations coming true.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: We have Yeah, we have evidence of it in Game
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: of Thrones what happens the house is Hilarian.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I will say that two things that came to mind
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: were one.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: This is also all evidence of Corlis not really being
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: well thought politically, because like he really all he has
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: to do if he's promised his sons that then do
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: what you need to do behind the scenes, and then
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: bring them to the dinner when the matter is done.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Like when you're like this is just kind of like
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: a like a this is all formal. We're just gonna
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: like you're gonna be in front of the Queen. She's
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: gonna say a couple of things to you. But just
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: know that you're already done, is already checked through. Why
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: have them at the dinner when you're still negotiating, Like
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: if you're trying to come off with this facade of
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: like you not covered, you're trying to legitimize them then like,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: why bring them into the negotiation.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Why not bring them in when the deed is done.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: That's just not that's poor planning on his side.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Secondly, how much of it do you think is like
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: the whole Basetard's component, How much of it do you
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: think it's corless sitting here on some I you owe
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: me because Ray nice and I never called you out
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: on not having our son's kid.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Tried and didn't work out. He lets y'all claim that
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: those were from my son, that we always knew they
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: weren't my son's kids and it was gay so me right.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: But in his reign, he's playing you owe me, yeah,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: bastard or bastard, And it's like, but does she Well.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: He's saying, you owe me for a lot of things,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: like a lot of things, and he blames her for
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: he blames her for reniece dying, like he blames her brother,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: his brother get in his head chopped, all this stuff.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: But it's also in defense of, you know, this bastardization.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: So that's what he's saying. He's like, look, my whole
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: family has been defending you, and we all died for it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: But and the other argument is about like when he said, well,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: what's so different about my basket for your your bastards, Well,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: the nearest bastards, Like remember Lena and her actually tried
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: even though everyone knew what the deal was. They tried
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: and didn't work out because of reasons, the obvious reasons.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Corla's you just cheated on your wife. Your basters were
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: just because you cheated and you didn't want to You
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: didn't want to claim them.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: So you was kind of deadbeat.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: That's that's my thing.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: He was until you until you had no choice.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: That's my That's my thing with Corla's that far. I say,
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: you know, he's not the best terracer because he only
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: is doing this now when he's forced, when his hand
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: is forced to do this. He would have never legitimized
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: these kids if he still had some other option.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, remember he named loose so as the as
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: his heir. So if loose was still if he didn't
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: become unfortunately dragon food, we wouldn't be having this conversation, right.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of believe that Alan.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Is older than leonor was, Like he was trying to
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: say that, like he half of his sons before he
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: got with the ringis itdam is too young for that
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: to be true, but Alan could be older than Leanor was.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Because you're saying that relation is legit Targerians. So what
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is I could see that he.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Was with this woman before Raymie's tried to wanted to
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: carry political favor, and when it was able to court,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Raymie successfully become like part of the Tigerian dynasty. And
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: now that that's all whatever, he's trying to use it
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: to legitimize his kids. It doesn't differ like he was
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: a deadbeat the whole way through. But I could see
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: him like looking at it all as if he.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Is just making good on something he had started before whatever.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: But like why does it necessitate like bringing other people
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: into it?
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I just feel like, I mean,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: this conflict that we're feeling is the same conflict Rain
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Ever feels because when they're when they another funny moment
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: when Damon is knighting with Adam, Hew and Olf and well,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: first of all, she o' got some damn nerve. She's like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: and I had to think about him, and they was like, well,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: how do you fashion yourself? How do you style yourself?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: They're talking about like what what's your what's your nighted name,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: what's your house? Your house off talking about Targary and
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: she said, fuck no, so all of the white Hugh
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Hugh of Hammah and then Adam, she looks, knowing what,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: knowing what Corliss asked her, She goes, Adam, of.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: The whole right, and then you know, Adam.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I looked at her like, okay, that's not what you
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: said at dinner, but okay, well didn't say shit at dinner.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: She just kind of just nodded and was like, okay,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Like whatever you said, carlss.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: I gotta ask what does when he says of the white?
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: What does that mean?
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Just said the word why? Like Alf didn't know what
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: to say. He really don't don't get that Targarian name.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we're.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Already seeing we see greens and blacks, right, Greens are
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: the high towers Targarians. We had the blacks just the
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: ring nearer Targarians white.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about the color white, what it means?
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, sorry, yeah, we're gonna see after.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: This is not the end of dragons. Like I said,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Dragons we don't see as new dragons at like literal
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: actual dragons and alive in this world, Like this is
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: the most dragons will ever see in this world. But
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: there's still enough dragons between now and Duck and Egg
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: and there are there's talking about rulership, so it's trying
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: to be there's another.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: King that comes who creates a.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Whole battle around the bloodlines and bastards, and some of
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: them take up different colors.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Because I was gonna say, what did the white could represent?
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, cowardice, but it also represents I mean, it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: not taken aside. Really, you just are able to just
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: color yourself whoever you think, because because because Off is
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: an opportunists too. So when he said that, I was
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: also thinking that he's just neutral. Yeah, like he's just
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: gonna take on whatever I was saying. It doesn't mean
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: pure especial, not in his case, so.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I thought it was like because like, so he can't
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: claim Targarian, but he can claim targarian hair color or something.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: So he's gonna go with white.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: That's a good one too.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Also him dodging the blade when Damon is trying
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: to knight him, it was hilarious.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: But he was like he's almost a cowardice like the man.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: The man is not honorable, like like how Hugh at
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: least gives off honor, right, like off gives off like sniveling.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: I got my you know, I fell into this and
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I got lucky, which he did.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Hugh gives off honor. But also problematic.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: All of them is problematic and something maybe it's is Adam.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: But what is Hugh honoring? I think that's my question
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: because like, yeah, what is he honoring?
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was honoring.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: He was trying to his family, his wife until he
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: found out his wife went to the cousin's house and
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: was like, there's nothing for me here.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: So so that's that's a question that he had that
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: door on him. Yeah, for Adam, we know Adam, but
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: who he honored.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's actually for the cause.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: So oh yeah, the only president was really down for
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: the family for real, is Adam? We know?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was definitely not.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: No, no, But I'm talking.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: About in terms of if you look all three of them, forget, okay,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: take Adam out Hugh, but versus Off, who would at
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: least outwardly look more quote honorable And it ain't.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: Gonna say, oh no, but I'm yeah, but outwardly does
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: not help in this situation.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: I trust him, if you are, Ray trusts other than them,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: but they both are on dragons.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the problem.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a huge and the most cowardly
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: one is the biggest, and.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: The most cowardy on is one of the one of
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: the biggest, right right, right, So one we got to
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: get really also into the green side of things, because
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: you know, we didn't really talk about you know, Allison,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: we didn't even talk about Ormond first of all, her
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: cousin and that whole situation with Darren. Quote Darren, first
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: of all, did.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Y'all big something was up in the beginning.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I thought something was up in the beginning the way
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Ormond to me, he he he submitted too easy now, yes,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: he he, He talked to talk. He said, well, you know,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: I don't really want to give up, but I'm gonna
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: give up.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: He was too calm for me, like I know.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: And that was a and you mentioned it, Ben, that
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: was a fire scene with the camera coming down and
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Damon chilling with the three dragons behind that shit is cold,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: cold and you.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Got the three dragons.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you got this huge army that really don't mean
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: shit against three dragons, but he was still even one
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: little dragon rite even still, I just felt something was off.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't know about the whole fake Dame dar anything,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: but I did think something was off with the way
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: armand because because he's too he's smart, I didn't but
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I forget he's a high tower right. The way he
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: was just like it just seemed a little fake to me.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: He was just like, well, you know, okay, well I
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: guess I've been to the knee, Like I don't see
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: you giving up that easy. And it was something off
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: about the way he gave up that easy and then
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: giving Darren away, and then like there were questions about,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: well why didn't Damon take the dragon? I think it
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: kind of didn't matter, right, Like if the dragon is
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: separated from his rider, what's.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: The dragon gonna do?
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: So I don't I don't know if that even mattered,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: but the fact of how it was done and it
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: just seemed mad easy. Now again, you could argue, well,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: there's three dragons, so what the fuck else are you
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: gonna do but surrender?
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: But I'm also just like I don't know. It just
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: something was something was.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: Been right that That was the one question I did
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: have because it felt weird that you know that Darren
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: would and rode his dragging back with them.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: But can you how you're gonna control the dragon? Like
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: if if Darren did get on and fly they everywhere. Yeah,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: they could fly anywhere, So that'd.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Be a dragon battle though, like you would that would
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: mean either huge this guy like gonna take him out. Okay,
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: let's let's but here's another thing too. So as I
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: remember in the books, it doesn't happened this way. In
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: the books, there's a battle. Maybe I'm misremembering. Maybe the
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: battle is later and this does happen, But I do
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: not remember Darren.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Ever making get to kings standing. So this is a
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: little bit of playing with the source material that I'm like,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: I can say that I know for sure what's going
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: to happen with the fate of a person is, but
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know for sure how they're remixing it for
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: the show. But I do want to say that just
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: because a targarian dyes their hair doesn't mean that they're
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: not a targarian, because sometimes they just like we're nearest
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: looking for legitimacy from other people or whatever.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Sometimes Targarians aren't born.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Like let me see, and they could have if they
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: wanted to, they could have started dyeing their hair to
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: try to like feel like, try to cover up.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: The fact they were bastards if they really good.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Look like ry Nea looked at that boy's hair, like, well,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: where the hell does this die come from?
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Like she like that, She was like, this is a
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: good fucking job.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she knew about.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: That, but I mean, because she's always she's born with it.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: She's mabeling.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: But like the actual like the people who have had
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: to like try to cover up, like who are trying
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: to because she because what.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Are they going to do? She's nearer?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Like they everyone knows she's her father issue they were
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: were they going to actually say something to her face?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: They did, and what happened?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: They still she still had her kids as vigitimate heirs.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: We usually see that that happen people hiding that they're
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: of Tigerian.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: But like when we see Dunk and we see Egg
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: that when.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: The Tigerians have less like political power because the Danarius
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and the like Danaris and like people like that era,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: they needed to like hide out to not get killed, because.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: That was all all he remember.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: We were we were saying, like his father is.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: He didn't want to be known as he didn't want
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: to be known.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: As a tan or especially her Nieces. She's always around
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: the time, like were you gonna we're gonna actually have
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: white hair about nie is moving about No, this is fact.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: So Rainie was not about that, like she was not
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: having that ship.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Well, all that said, like Ormond played his hand well
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: and he played the ship out of nearing them, and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: the fact that nobody understands what his plan is. I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: think that's some that's some crazy. That's the craziest about
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: that's about Tower school of thought right why that's also
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: like I think people were like people in the were
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: speculating that whenever Allison sent the note to him. I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: think that episode wonders too, where like she was saying
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: don't come here, like Agon needs you to do this
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: instead or whatever, when she was keeping everybody away away.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: From like King's landing.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: They he had he has he makes a smirk like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: he reads it and he smirks at it. People were
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: speculating that what he was smirking at was that it
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: was actually intercepted by Amon and Amon had written him
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: but what to do or whatever, and.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: That was not Allison's letter. I never believed that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: I always believe that it was Allison's letter. But I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: believe that he knows his sister enough. He knows like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: how she was trained to move by their father in
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: the court or whatever, to know that he shouldn't trust
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: whatever he.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Just got as an orman is Alison's brother or cousin cousin?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Now just want no, no, no, I don't know the fucking
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: but because some.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: Of them, yeah, because I'm not trying to remember cousin,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: they say cousin.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Otto ran like could be brought a cousin. Otto
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: was a second son, That's what it is. I'm like,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: where is it?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: So he cannot because he was a second son, He
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: cannot ever inherit the high Tower lands and power. But
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: he was always brought up up under the high Tower
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: lands and power. So he used that to his benefit,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: got real close with Visaris, and then tried to become
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: bigger than his house by having his daughter become queen.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: But all the high towers are political movers, so and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: they're used to.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Having a lot of money to do whatever they want
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Right, they're like the Ogi, They're og Leonister's the Leonards
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: is trying to get like them basically, right except for
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: at least now right now, like Allison don't have the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: power no more.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: But she was never going to. She's the daughter of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a second son.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: That too.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: But you know how, like how we talked about earlier,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: about like the truth that she had been ruling behind
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: the scenes too, like when when Viciri's was was when
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Vizceiris was sick, for example, like even though people didn't
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: know the truth, the truth that she was making a
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: lot of decisions.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: She was in the back rooms with the small council
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: making sure.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Shit was done.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Even Raynier asked her for like on a on a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: slick Raniera asked her for advice.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: She's like, well, she says that much.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: She says, well, when you were with my dad, you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: was kind of ruling, wasn't you.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Because Rainiera don't know what the hell she's doing.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Remember you don't like remember seasons season in the one
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: season two.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Like the high coustle would look at her because of
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: course it was or that she had power when her
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: son was in the seat, when Aigon was in the seat,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: then when her, when Vassarius was there, because a small council,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: even whenever Visarius was incapacitated, Like they were like, we
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: don't know if we believe you that this is coming
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: from vices, but like we don't have any other We
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: have no right now, and we can't really push back,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: like your your father is here, so we can't really
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: we don't really have the means to push back in
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: a way that like correct cool. So like it was
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: never really Alison. It was always because she's like, oh
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: who man, they were never really listening to her.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not really talking about whether they were listening.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I was talking about the fact that she was still
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: making decisions behind the scenes, like she was still had
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: some experience and in trying to govern right and trying
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: to like at the end of the day, remember Allison
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: was still as you just said about the High Tower.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: She was still moving and doing slick shit this entire
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: time while she had some subblance of power or influence
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: or or or thoughts of power, if you will. If
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: she didn't have the real power, she has some type
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: of soft power. So she was getting shit done behind
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: the scenes in some way, shape or form. And that's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: all I'm saying, Like she does have that experience in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: that way, whereas Rania has constantly since she was young
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: battled against these men and these people who wouldn't let
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: never let her have say it, wouldn't even let her
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: in the room, right, Like, that's all I'm saying.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: I would argue that Rania had more experience with the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: small I think she has a bias on Allison's power
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: because she had more power and influence when her father
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: was around on the Small Council than Allison has had
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: because she's interacted with it, Like when her father was
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: treating her like air, the Small Council.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Was actually like he made like he made.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: It the environment such that the Small Council was actually
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: listening to ray neerest of if you recall back to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: some of those episodes.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: It was only.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: That's why I think that she thinks that Allison has
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: more power than she actually has, because she she's used
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: to the Small Counsel listening to her in a certain
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: way when she was a child or whatever, So like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: why would Allison have the same thing as queen That
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: doesn't work that way, But she doesn't know that.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: She hasn't seen it play out that way.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: That's fair, And we didn't even do even I'm just
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: just more on the green stuff, like besides that house
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: being like stricken down basically, Oh and this whole thing
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: about Ormonds. What Ormond ends up doing, which is seizing
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Tumbleton mm hmm and putting all the and basically capturing
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the entire fucking city and and having that dragon in hand,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Like what is the plan? Because I'm kind of like near, like, well,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: what the fuck is supposed to happen next?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: You know, you're already fucking knows. We know the answer.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: What do you dragons do? Burns?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: Shit, get and get bigger?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Because that dragon keeper comes in and it's like I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: was the only one who got out.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: So what is RAINI were supposed to do? Is my question?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And it's a question, a real question. I'm not being physicians.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Oh no, what is she supposed to do?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: Shit? I can't tell you because what do you mean?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: What is she supposed to do?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: What should she do? Is she supposed to send somebody?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Are they supposed to go get Tumblton back?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Are they? Does she know?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Like, what's happened next? She knows there is a fake.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: She knows that dragon is there. He captured the whole
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: town of Tumbleton, who Tumbleton was loyalty and near.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: So, like, what's supposed to happen next? I'm asking the.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Question because I don't know what's supposed to happen next.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: Just like she asked a small caustle for advice, I'm
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: asking my small coustle for advice. What's supposed to happen?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: She gotta get her whisperer on it. She's gonna have
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: to infiltrate the town, just like the town was already
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: infiltrated because she can't do what she wants to do
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: and just doing there and burn that shit down.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: One's part of the books. Don't look it up though.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And then the other side of it is that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Darren Darien is bigger than this kid, like the one
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: they showed the fate Darien is not, you know, She's like, oh,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: I expected him to be larger because he should have been.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: Like so this is like he might have a little dragon,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: but he still got a dragon. That's someone who's dragon.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Darren, what does real Darren looks like?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Do you have like black hair or dark hair. I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: don't really haven't even seen the nigga. I'm like Allison,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I ain't seen my own son in five years.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: So I don't know they sent him away. I don't know.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Damn, that's wild, And like I said, that was a
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: real question.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of just at a loss, So, like, what
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: what's supposed to happen now on top of top of
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: trying to stabilize King's Landing assassinations.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's interesting that, like there's a lot of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: foreshadowing that's been happening in the past episodes. I think
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: when we saw them mess up Corliss's like treasury basically
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: like in the last one, and then we know that
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: they don't have any treasury when they're going to come
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: to King's Landing, like there's like no money.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: That was foreshadowing.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: There's like this how this cause lacks funds and what
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: they did have access to has now been insufficient funds.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: You ain't got no money.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: And I think it happened the shadow foreshadow again here
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: where Allison says that no one knows what Agon looks like.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: His face is burnt. People like are not looking for
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: him like that because they don't. They don't even know
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: he look like in the first place before his face
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: was burnt, so even after they don't know what they're
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: looking for right now. And then that forst shadows know
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: them not knowing what Darren looks like. And so here
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: they are with an imposter Darren. And that Darren that
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: you know is thought to be in Templeton.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Who with the real Darren? Please Fanish.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: One of the things I did want to mention that
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: I did appreciate, like I said, she was trying to
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: do her best mom Donnie, was when Riniera did that
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: banquet for the for the rich in the city, and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: I knew she was gonna do that shit with the rets.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: I just knew that she was gonna happen, because first
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: of all, there's too many of these little biggests, so
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: they got to clean this up somewhere or another. But
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: I did appreciate that once she was told that, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: that this could have been all Massari's idea, But once
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: she was told that, you know, the small was starving
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: and that's because the rich folk was hoarding all the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: food and the wealth and all that stuff, that she
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: basically she said, I'm gonna serve y'all the same shit
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: that you these people had to eat, And it was
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: just funny to me how like they still didn't get
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: it even in the moment, Like Man's was like, oh
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: so you know, oh so because she was like, oh,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: you know, when people didn't have nothing, they had to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: defend for themselves and it probably was eating rats too.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: He was like, so we were supposed to do the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: same thing.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, nigga, Like like yes, Like it's just it's just
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: again that the aristocracy of it all. Just the fact
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: that oh, I'm supposed to stoop to these levels, are
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to help.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: People like that would never come into play in their minds.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: That That was one of my favorite lines of the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: show was the you would lie genteel in your graves.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, you were like, can't till your graves
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: before doing whatever it takes to feed your children?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I loved the whole thing.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I loved the whole scene. I loved how I loved it.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: I love how it's like a this this is discourse
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: on what's happening in the world, and like how it's
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: always been and how it's been how as long as
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: we've known it to be and we'll see what happens.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of different things that are happening here.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: The woman who speaks up is Lady Joanna from House Lanister.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: When Rainier is like where's the money at? She's the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: one who would know where the money's at. And the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: fact that like they all look healthy enough, none of
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: them are. Then they're all feeding off of storages of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: food that the small folk have pulled and labored for
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: and they have just been sitting and eating it. Like
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: that's where the storage of food comes from. You're not
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: even giving people the fruits of their own labors. You're
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: not even giving them like even this smission of that
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: just to act like you are like at least being
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: like beneficent and being like, well, we know you've worked
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: for this, Like let us like share a portion of
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: this with you.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: No, they're just been all story like been like hoarding
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: it for themselves. So like Rainier doing this, like I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: love that. Like you know, she people and her small
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: counsel kind of like you know, joke with.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Her about it, but like it was a real move,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: a good move for her because she and she needed
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: to make it to make a potical point to show,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: so the high houses like what they need to expect
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: when it came to her, and like, especially like Lanister,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: a couple of the other houses were openly against their lanister.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Both of the sons are gone and that's why Joanna
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: is there because Damon kills one.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: And then the Starks killed the other.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, actually no, Damon's cause kills one
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: with and then the on the ship the pirate. Yeah,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: So like that's why the Lanisters don't have any e
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: mail representatives right now because that they.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Chose the wrong cause. They said it with the wrong cause.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: And if you consider the Lanister who made the deal,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: because they're twins, he is semester of coin for the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: Greens and the Greeks. Wasn't looking that money like that.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: He was like, I don't know how we're gonna do this.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: We go, but we're gonna be able to pay y'all
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: back or whatever. Like he was kind of like on
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: loan with the pirates. So like that's why the pirates
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: are kind of like coming in and doing their worst
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: in west Roads because they're like we were we were
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: told we were gonna get some pay in compensation for
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: doing this stuff. We're gonna just take it. So that's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: what's happening there, and also so it's whatever. But I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: also want to say that Manderly stopping her at the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: end of the dinner and having his druggets.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, he wasn't really. I'm just saying
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: the way he was acting is he though.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: That's gonna have some tones later and she could be
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: savvy about it. We'll just see what happens, but that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: that doesn't mean something.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: M And before we go, just the last major issue
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: that's going to continue to get into play is this
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: whole Massaria versus Damon thing with Masaria being her basically
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: her kind of right in r near his ear, and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: you also have Damon and ra near his ear, and
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Raniera trying to balance the two schools of thought, like
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: you have the Massaria who is you know, moving on.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: A political wave and in both political.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: In many senses, but Massaria more on the cunning political
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: wave when she's you know, she's the one telling uh
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: rannier A, you know, go for the small folk, like
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: pull up your base first, you know, do all this stuff,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: do the giveaways and all this other stuff for your people,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: and you know, make them see that you're a servant
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: of the people. You know, you're not just their ruler, right,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: and also like, you know you have that sexual relationship
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: too between I think you know, we forget about that.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Then you also have Damon on the other side, who
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: is like, you need to conquer it and tell all
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: your world you need to do it now, right, And
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: she's looking at him like, well, first, I didn't even
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: get my footing here. I'm trying to do this first,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: and then we can move on. And he's kind of
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: like whatever, nigga, Like he's like, we got to move now. Again,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: he's super locked in and he's like, let's move while
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: we got the momentum. But those are those two opposing
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: trains of thought, and obviously that's her consort, right. So
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a lot of back and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: forth with Massaria and Damon, and how that will affect
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: the nearest decision making may come into play at least
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: in the show.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: I think Rainier looked at Damon that way because she
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: it was like, to me, it gave now I know
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: why my dad, And she says she mentions her father
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: in responds to him him, now I know why my
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: dad never puts you in a.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Higher position because he stuck.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: On this idea of conquest, and like if he were
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: on some aggon the conqueror shit, then like he could
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: just like go on, take that on.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: But what he's.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Failing to see is that the doom of old Valeria,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: which is what caused the Targerians. Like one of the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Targarians had a dream, one of the sisters, and she
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: realized that like something bad was gonna come if they
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: said in Valeria, so they needed to go.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: That's when they came over to King's landing. We came
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: over to the Dragonstone.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: They already had a house in Dragonstone and then they
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: like pulled their planes together and then conquered and created
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: the seven Kingdoms out of the like the one shared
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: West Ros instead of the all multiple different kingdoms that
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: used to exist in west Ros. There's a reason why
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: they chose to conquer and create one nation rather than
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: keep their place in Dragonstone and then bounce around different
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: countries around the world trying to conquer stuff. And a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: lot of that has to do with we don't know
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: exactly what went wrong with where they're from. Besides the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: fact that like their whole civilizations of like multiple generations
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: and civilizations are gone. There's like just rock that's left
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: there now, and there used to be all dragon Land.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: It's all gone.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: We know that the idea of just continuing to get conquests, though,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: is not going to be good.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: For Dragon writers, as Valeria kind of its testament to.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: So it's very foolish for Damon to be like, there's
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: so many places we could go, there's any places we
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: could conquer, there's any things we could do.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Why do you think Agone decided to be over here?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: What are you doing that's so smart?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: That's going to be better than why they came over
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: here in the first place. And if you can't, like,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: what it sounds like is that he's afraid. He knows
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: that he's not up to task for actually governing the stuff,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: so he'd rather we do think he's good at, which
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: is running around with is like gun out with his
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: sword flying and blastom stuff than actually doing the nitty
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: gritty of making sure that the power that ray Neeron
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  Speaker 4: needs to have to be a good ruler actually comes together,
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  Speaker 4: because that's the work that he does not want to do.
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  Speaker 4: And like that's fine if that's what, not what he
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  Speaker 4: think it's interesting that the dream that he's taken of
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  Speaker 4: the nearest is putting him of the mind that that
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  Speaker 4: comes from them conquering rather than like wester Roast being I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, Okay, well the Dame is fucking crazy, bro.
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  Speaker 5: No one last thing that I you know, just interesting.
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  Speaker 5: But I really like the mention of the Utaie. I know,
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  Speaker 5: it's like the Asian et Yat and the place where
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  Speaker 5: the men have wings, which were Yeah, that sounds cool,
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  Speaker 5: but that's in the books.
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  Speaker 4: There's rumors of places no one actually like no one
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  Speaker 4: in the actual Targerian west ROAs like they ever really
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  Speaker 4: do it.
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  Speaker 1: We hear.
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  Speaker 4: Tyrian Lenister talk about how his one of his uncles
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  Speaker 4: like they lost him, they don't know where he ended
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  Speaker 4: up or whatever, but he was going on request to
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  Speaker 4: go check out these different places.
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  Speaker 1: So like anyone who's like that's like a.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of reoccurring idea that anyone from west Ros that
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  Speaker 4: tends to go off on the journey to try and
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  Speaker 4: find these like far flunk places like Pintos that's easy,
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  Speaker 4: like where the faceless across, but even like Summer Island,
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  Speaker 4: where where the black folks of this universe lived and
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  Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. Like those places they have
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  Speaker 4: pretty like good like trade or something that they've actually
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  Speaker 4: been around those like set up those.
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  Speaker 1: Systems pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: But the far far places, like people just disappear never
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  Speaker 4: they try to go and.
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  Speaker 3: Check them out because they don't pus. They don't come back,
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  Speaker 3: not like you hear from them. They no ravens coming
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  Speaker 3: back down. But I did like that too, Ben. I
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  Speaker 3: was just like just it's just the ask the prospect
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  Speaker 3: of in this type of environment, you know, in this
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: renfair type environment, that there's other cultures within this and
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  Speaker 3: what they're doing over there or could be doing over there.
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  Speaker 5: And it's always interesting too because it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we think of West Throas and you know, all this
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  Speaker 5: dragon stuff being like everything, but there's places where they're
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  Speaker 5: like dragons have those you know.
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  Speaker 4: Right, well, I got this fuck a dragon right.
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  Speaker 5: Or I mean they're just not there. But honestly, they're
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  Speaker 5: just not thinking about it, you know, like the people
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: them ween niggas ain't thinking about these dragons like them,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: They've never seen these niggas, like.
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  Speaker 4: There's one place in particular that is so dark magic
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  Speaker 4: in arcane that like if you said, like, oh yeah
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  Speaker 4: they got dagon be like and so anyways, I just
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  Speaker 4: had a thought and now that person's dead.
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