Latest / The Uncensored Catholic / Show 237: Matrimony part 1
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- 0:51Speaker 1: A Hey, y'all, welcome this week's show. We'll continue where
- 1:03we left off last week with a few questions and
- 1:05answers from the Classic work radio replies on the topic
- 1:10of baptism, and then we're going to get into the
- 1:13last of the sacraments that we've been covering, and this
- 1:17one is going to be a particular interest. I think
- 1:20to most of my listeners, it's matrimony, as best I
- 1:25can tell, and I have looked up every single denomination
- 1:29I can find, and I've done a little research on
- 1:32somes that were a little murky. The Catholic Church is
- 1:35still the only Christian church that says marriage is a
- 1:40permanent sacrament and does not allow divorce. It seems the
- 1:45Baptists were pretty much of that opinion until the nineteen eighties,
- 1:48and as best I can tell, when President Reagan legalized
- 1:52no fault divorce, because a lot of the Baptists had
- 1:56this idea that they're like Christian first, but American very
- 2:02close second, like ultra patriotic, and sometimes the patriotism overshadows
- 2:10the religion, they said, well, I guess we have to
- 2:13go along with divorce too. That's the best I can figure.
- 2:17Method is certainly in aw divorce Presbyterians Lutherans. Martin Luther
- 2:21said he would prefer people commit adultery. He wasn't a
- 2:24big fan of divorce, but he said they should imitate
- 2:27Jesus because he believed Jesus committed adultery with the woman
- 2:30at the well. Yeah, it was very evil, heretic. Anyway,
- 2:36it's just scratching the surface of Luther. I've done a
- 2:39whole show on him, if you want to look that up.
- 2:41The Orthodox, it depends on how traditional Orthodox you are.
- 2:48Some of them do, I mean at least frown on divorce.
- 2:52But I was talking with a I believe a Russian
- 2:55Orthodox or was it Greek I cannot remember. Anyway, they
- 3:00have sort of a concept of trial marriages, like if
- 3:04the first time you marry, if it doesn't work out,
- 3:08you can get divorced and remarry. Catholic churches do that.
- 3:13We believe that marriage is a sacrament. I mean, the
- 3:16Anglican Episcopal Church was literally founded on divorce. And it's
- 3:20you know, one of the things I was discussing with
- 3:24someone earlier this day. You know, a Protestant was really
- 3:30pitch and a fit saying prayers to saints aren't biblical,
- 3:34and they're wrong, and they're evil and all that. And
- 3:37I said, well, first of all, you know they said
- 3:41any communication with the dead is absolutely forbidden by the Bible.
- 3:46And I said, well, you know, first of all, you
- 3:48are aware that Jesus said that God was the God
- 3:50of the living, not the dead, and so the saints
- 3:54who are alive in heaven are alive, so they're not dead. Well,
- 3:58I don't believe that. My past mastor said this, And
- 4:00my pastor said that, and I said, now, what about
- 4:03the transfiguration when Jesus went up on the mountain and
- 4:08he spoke with Moses and Elijah, he spoke with two
- 4:11spirits of people who had died. Well, no, I don't
- 4:15believe that. I don't believe that portion of the Bible
- 4:17is true whatsoever. Oh my gosh. And again my pastor
- 4:22says it's always wrong to talk with the dead. I said, well,
- 4:24first of all, if the Bible is the infallible word
- 4:28of God, you can't pick and choose what you like. Right,
- 4:31if Jesus said it, you have to believe it, because
- 4:34God cannot lie. If you're saying Jesus lied, then he's
- 4:37not God. Your entire religion falls apart. If you say
- 4:41that the apostles through which he founded the church, the
- 4:44ones who wrote the New Testament of the Bible, if
- 4:47you're saying they lied, then you can't believe anything in
- 4:51the Bible. You can't believe them as witnesses that Jesus
- 4:53was resurrected, can you, or to his ministry on earth
- 4:57or anything. If you say something in the Bible is
- 5:01wrong because my pastor says it's wrong, preachers so and
- 5:04so says it's wrong, then your entire religion falls apart.
- 5:10If I mean, just like again, I'll go to like
- 5:13the Southern Baptists and such, and the Reformed Lutherans and
- 5:15all that who say that drinking any alcohol is wrong,
- 5:21Reform Presbyterians, I think I meant to say. But anyway,
- 5:23they will say that drinking alcohol is sinful, and so
- 5:27I'll say to him, but wait a minute. It says
- 5:28in the Bible Jesus made wine, and we know he
- 5:31drank wine at least at the passover. Jesus, being God,
- 5:35cannot sin, So therefore your doctrine's wrong, or you're accusing
- 5:40Jesus of sin. And they'll say, well, no, that's not
- 5:42real wine, that's greape juice. And then I have to
- 5:44get into the scientific explanations of how it could not
- 5:47be grape juice, and how is it this grape juice
- 5:50in one past chapter here made Moses drunk. In another
- 5:54past chapter Moses Abram I can't remember, but I mean,
- 5:58you know, you can't say be not drunk with wine,
- 6:02but be filled with the Holy Spirit. That's one they
- 6:03like to quote and not also admit that the wine
- 6:06of the Bible is actual wine that could make you drunk. Right,
- 6:11So their whole religion falls apart when you point out
- 6:15that they're accusing Jesus of either lying or committing sin.
- 6:20The same is very very true with divorce. Obviously, if
- 6:24Jesus said, let what God has joined, what God has
- 6:27joined together, let no man separate, and absolutely explicitly forbade
- 6:30divorce and said that someone who divorced and remarried was
- 6:35committing adultery, you have to believe that as the word
- 6:40of God. And yet the Catholic Church is the only
- 6:43church that still teaches that divorce is unacceptable. We do
- 6:47have annoyments. Annoyments have very strict guidelines. An annoyment is
- 6:54not a no fault divorce. It is not a divorce.
- 6:57An annoyment is when the Church looks in a marriage
- 7:01and says, was this marriage validly joined in union in
- 7:06the first place. That's actually really important because, especially in
- 7:12times past, someone could be forced into marriage and they
- 7:16were not in love with the person, and they were
- 7:18doing being forced to marry against their will they did
- 7:20not agree. I mean, you could agree to an arranged
- 7:24marriage and with the assumption that you know will fall
- 7:27in love eventually, or I just really don't have a
- 7:29choice in this matter. I'm going to agree to it.
- 7:31Others were forced, you know, physically. Those marriages are not valid.
- 7:39If the two in their vowels say they're going to
- 7:42love each other, you know, until death us due part,
- 7:46but one of them was lying, that's actually a very
- 7:50strong grounds for divorce. I mean, it's not always the
- 7:53case that someone who's cheating on their spouse or abusive
- 7:58never even loved them on the day of their way,
- 8:00but sometimes it is. Sometimes somebody will marry for money
- 8:04and there was no love involved whatsoever. That is actually
- 8:08the authority of the church. When God said what you
- 8:11bind on earth will be bound in heaven. What you
- 8:13loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. The Holy
- 8:17Catholic Church is the only authority on earth to have
- 8:21the full authority of God to both bind a couple
- 8:24in holy matrimony and loose them from those bonds. So
- 8:30we're going to get into that, and it's probably going
- 8:31to be about a three parter on that. I think
- 8:34we'll do about three different episodes because it really is
- 8:37one of the most important, and you know, especially in
- 8:40terms of apologetics, like you know, we're always talking here
- 8:43about how do you explain the Catholic Church and its
- 8:46doctrine and your faith to a Protestant who says, you
- 8:49know you're going to hell you worship the Antichrist, you
- 8:52must be born again and start thumping the Bible in
- 8:54your face. You know, when you start with yes, you
- 8:56must be born again by being baptized and receive the
- 8:59body and blood of Christ for eu Christ, you left
- 9:01off half that sense. You must be pouring again of
- 9:04water and the blood because Jesus said, if you don't
- 9:07eat his body and drink his blood, you have no
- 9:09life in you. That is really important. That's the first part.
- 9:13You can throw at them to trip them up, but
- 9:16you want to really knock them back and make them
- 9:18reconsider everything. Say, okay, in all four chapters, all four
- 9:23of the gospels, right, Matthew, Mark Luke, and John. Matthew, Mark,
- 9:27Luke and John. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I can't
- 9:31remember chapter of Divorce of where these are, so just
- 9:33go look them up. In all four of the Gospels,
- 9:36Jesus expressly forbids Christians to divorce, and Jews, for that matter,
- 9:42expressly forbids it. And say, what is your church stage?
- 9:46Who's right preacher Bob over there or Jesus Christ. So
- 9:51you're telling me that you know your church's doctrine is
- 9:56the exact opposite of what Jesus said. If that be
- 9:59the case on this point, let me discuss some other
- 10:01points with you. So it's actually a very good starting point.
- 10:05Now let's talk about baptism. So the questioner asks, the
- 10:09priest Christ himself was not baptized in his infancy, but
- 10:13as an adult. This is most likely a Baptist because
- 10:16they are the best I can tell about the only
- 10:19Protestant church that believe in adult baptism. And they're absolutely
- 10:22shocked when you tell them that Presbyterians and Lutherans and
- 10:25Methodists and Anglicans practice infant baptism. They don't believe you you,
- 10:30I mean, they literally believe. All Protestants have that as
- 10:33a tenet of their faith. It's amazing what how little
- 10:36Protestants generally know about the history and development of their
- 10:40own denomination, much less other Protestant denominations. They all think
- 10:45they're they believe the same thing. Well, they really really don't. Anyway.
- 10:49The priest answer, Christ was baptized as an adult because
- 10:52only then did he institute this essential right of the
- 10:55New Law. You could not expect him to receive it
- 10:58before instituting it. Remember that he had received the right
- 11:01of circumcision, which is figurative of baptism to be received
- 11:04by children, and that right he received in infancy. The
- 11:09person says John told his converts to repent and be baptized,
- 11:13and they say he was speaking to adult sin. Undoubtedly,
- 11:15adults must repent of their personal sins before they can
- 11:18come to God. Yet children who are incapable of personal
- 11:21sin and repentance are born in original sin. To destroy
- 11:25which is destroy, that is the probe, destroy that which
- 11:29is the primary purpose of baptism. In other words, primary
- 11:32purpose of baptism is free us and original sin. The
- 11:36Bible says, believe and be baptized. How can children make
- 11:38an act of faith? And the pre censor the command
- 11:41to believe and be baptized was addressed to adult listeners only,
- 11:44who without faith would not even see the necessity of baptism.
- 11:48But children belong to their parents, and the parents may
- 11:52certainly give their children to God, professing faith on their
- 11:55behalf and promising to bring them up as Christians. Person continues,
- 11:59Christ said, several little children come unto me for of
- 12:02such as the kingdom of heaven. He has not mentioned
- 12:04that they should be baptized, and they, of course reply
- 12:09that text has no reference to baptism. Christ's purpose there
- 12:13was to insist upon humility. He impressed the moral lesson
- 12:16that only such has cultivated the disposition of a child
- 12:19before God will enter heaven. But he never said that
- 12:22all children, even the unbaptized, would necessarily go to heaven.
- 12:26He would contradict his own doctrine if he had said that,
- 12:29And if the text had any reference to the baptism
- 12:31of children at all, it would tell against your position.
- 12:34You have no right and no warrant warrant to refuse baptism,
- 12:39baptismal regeneration to children who have had their natural birth
- 12:43but not their supernatural rebirth. As person says, I was
- 12:48baptized in the Church of England, what is the religion
- 12:51of my baptism? And they answer the Catholic religion. Baptism,
- 12:55if valid, makes one Christian. Now Catholicity is the only
- 12:58true form of Christian Chianity. Therefore, everyone validly baptized is
- 13:03radically a Catholic, even if they be unaware of it.
- 13:07He says, do you deny that baptism can belong to
- 13:09the Anglican Church, And they say yes. All the sacraments
- 13:13were instituted by Christ to belong to Christ. Now Christ
- 13:16founded the Catholic Church and committed his religion to her
- 13:19keeping only. Therefore the sacraments, without exception, belonged to her.
- 13:24Not a valid sacrament is proper to the Church of
- 13:27England or to any other Protestant church. There is but
- 13:30one Lord, one faith, one baptism. If baptistm is administered
- 13:34by an Anglican and it be valid, the subject is
- 13:37baptized in the Church of England, but not into the
- 13:40Church of England. Christ's institute baptism into the Catholic Church,
- 13:44not baptism into the Church of England. Now the person answers,
- 13:48if that be so. Anglicans are Catholic of after all,
- 13:52a thing which I have heard you repeatedly deny, And
- 13:54they answer in virtue of their valid baptism. They are
- 13:58radically Catholic affiliation with the Catholic Church. By valid baptism.
- 14:03One can exclude himself from the true invisible Church by
- 14:06a conscious heresy or schism. If a child is baptistized
- 14:10validly into the Church of England, that child is a
- 14:13Catholic and remains a Catholic until he comes to the
- 14:16age of region and adopts a heretical and schismatical Anglicanism.
- 14:21For example, if I receive an adult Anglican together with
- 14:25his infant sign into the Catholic Church, and is certain
- 14:28that both have been baptized validly, I have to ask
- 14:31the father to abjure heresy and profess formally his submission
- 14:35to the Catholic Church. But nothing is done in regard
- 14:39to the infant son. It is simply taught Catholic doctrines
- 14:42and brought up as a Catholic It's baptism, although performed
- 14:46in the Anglican Church, made it a member of the
- 14:48Catholic Church. In that sense, every valid sacrament, even marriage,
- 14:52belongs to the Catholic Church. Usually, however, converts to the
- 14:56Catholic Church are baptized again conditionally, lest there's should be
- 15:00any radical defect in their first submission. To that right,
- 15:04I don't think conditional baptisms are as common as they
- 15:08werence were. Basically, you're asked, were you baptized in the
- 15:12name of the Father Son the Holy Spirit? And were
- 15:15you baptized with water? That's about it, and if so,
- 15:19the church says you had a valid baptism. Of course,
- 15:21when you're confirmed, you have to renounce Satan and all
- 15:24his works and all that you do. Your baptismal vowels
- 15:27again at that point. So when a Protestant such as
- 15:32myself becomes Catholic, I did not receive a conditional baptism,
- 15:36even though I asked for one. The priest said it
- 15:39was not necessary and would not be proper, and I
- 15:43really wanted one. So I've talked with many Protestants have
- 15:48converted to Catholicism. Who says the same thing I wanted
- 15:50that conditional baptism because I wanted to be sure. And
- 15:53then we have to realize, if the priest says it's right,
- 15:56it's right. That's what we're sure of. We're sure of
- 15:59the authority of the Catholic Church and her representatives. All right,
- 16:02So let's talk about the sacrament of matrimony. What food
- 16:10is to the individual, matrimony is to humanity in general.
- 16:15For his food serves to maintain the life of the individual,
- 16:18so marriage serves to maintain the life of the human race,
- 16:22since the principal object of marriage there is the right
- 16:25training of children, and can only be attained when a
- 16:28man and woman are united together by an indissoluble bond.
- 16:32The wise Creator in the beginning only created two human beings,
- 16:35saying the two shall be one in flesh Genesis two
- 16:39twenty four. God himself instituted the matrimony in the beginning
- 16:44of the world for the procreation of the human race
- 16:47and for mutual assistance of husband and wife. Matrimony was
- 16:50instituted by God for the propagation of the human race,
- 16:54for he said to our first parents, increase and multiply
- 16:56and feel the earth. Genesis one eight Saint Franks A
- 17:00Sow calls matrimony the nursery ground of Christianity, destined to
- 17:04fill the earth with believers and complete the number of
- 17:06the elect in heaven. It was also instituted for the
- 17:09mutual support of parties contracting it. For God said before
- 17:13Eve was created, it is not good for man to
- 17:15be alone. Let us make him a helpmate, like unto ourself,
- 17:19like unto himself. There we go Genesis two eighteen. The woman,
- 17:25being the weaker, needs someone on whom to lean. The
- 17:28man needs someone to care for him. The man is
- 17:31characterized by greater strength and energy. He seeks the sphere
- 17:34of activity in the world. The woman's nature is cast
- 17:37in a softer mold. Her sphere of work is beside
- 17:41the domestic hearth. Thus the two complement each other, and
- 17:44each acts beneficially on the other. Matrimony has also third object,
- 17:50that of preventing sin, of which the apostle speaks in
- 17:54the First Epistle to the Corinthians one Corinthians seven to two.
- 17:59He who would set me marriage aside, would give free
- 18:01reign to impurity. Many take a vow no. Many take
- 18:05a low view of marriage. They consider it as affording
- 18:08a legitimate means of indulging their lusts. Such persons will
- 18:12not be happy or contented, and will neglect the duties
- 18:15of their state. The happiness of matrimony depends to a
- 18:18great extent on taking an exalted view of the subject.
- 18:22Matrimony is a divine and by no means a human institution.
- 18:27It is because matrimony was ordained of God that the
- 18:31Church calls it a holy and godly state. The opinion
- 18:35of the Manicheans the Man of Jesus, he said, was
- 18:38that marriage was to be rejected and condemned by the Church.
- 18:41Even the most uncivilized nations consider matrimony to be a
- 18:46divine institution, for they practice religious ceremonies of some kind
- 18:50on the occasion of marriage, offering sacrifices or prayers. God
- 18:54himself appointed the laws of marriage, first through Moses, and
- 18:58then afterward by our Lord, the Christion. Marriage is a
- 19:00contract between a man and woman, binding them to an
- 19:04individual and indissoluble partnership, and conferring on them at the
- 19:08same time the grace to fulfill the duties required of them.
- 19:12Marriage is therefore not merely a contract. It is, at
- 19:15the same time an act by which grace is conferred.
- 19:18The contract is not concluded in the presence of a
- 19:21minister of the Church solely for the sake of obtaining
- 19:24the ecclesiastical bene prediction upon the betrothed couple, but in
- 19:28order that they may be truly united together before God
- 19:30and wedlock. It was this covenant entered into the presence
- 19:34of a minister of the Church, which our Lord raised
- 19:36to the dignity of a sacrament. Marriage contracted without the
- 19:40solemnities required by the Church in all countries where the
- 19:43decree of the Council of Trent has been duly promulgated
- 19:46is invalid and null. Okay, that needs to be pointed out.
- 19:52The Church now does recognize civil marriage or marriages in
- 19:55Protestant churches and such as that saying it's not idea,
- 20:00but because marriage predates the sacrament of marriage instituted by Christ,
- 20:04it's still valid. In the eighteen nineties that was still
- 20:10a matter of controversy. A contract which is invalid cannot
- 20:15become a sacrament anymore than the wine and a secular marriage,
- 20:19or a marriage and a Protestant church or another religion
- 20:22is not does not have the same sacramental nature as one.
- 20:27In a Catholic church, the grace conferred there has to
- 20:33be a priest involved. Let's just put it that way, Okay.
- 20:36A contract which is invalid cannot become a sacrament anymore
- 20:40than wine. If it not be really wine can be
- 20:42converted in the mass into the blood of Christ. Matrimony
- 20:46is a type of the union between Christ and the
- 20:48Church Ephesians five point thirty two. As the Church, the
- 20:52bride of Christ is one, so the man has but
- 20:54one wife. As Christ and the Church are inseparably united,
- 20:59so the union of the married is perpetual and indissoluble.
- 21:02As the union of Christ in the Church is a
- 21:04covenant of grace, so also the union of husband and wife.
- 21:08Christ is the head of the Church and the man
- 21:10is the head of the woman. The church is subject
- 21:12to Christ, so the wife is obedient to the husband.
- 21:15Christ in the Church are animated by one spirit, and
- 21:18so it should be with husband and wife. Christ never
- 21:21abandons the Church, and the church can never be unfaithful
- 21:24to Christ. So married people must never be unfaithful to
- 21:28one another. You know, I went to a southern Babtish university.
- 21:34I actually proved to the professors that monogamy, the command
- 21:41that man only have one wife, it isn't found in
- 21:44the Bible. It says that deacons or I think it
- 21:48was deacons should only be you know, husband's of one wife,
- 21:50but it doesn't forbid for everybody. And they were flipping
- 21:53out because of that time. You know, they were really
- 21:55against gay marriage, which they should be. Unfortunately they're not
- 21:59so much anymore. Is now a gay club on campus.
- 22:02There was a big gay club on campus before it
- 22:05was just in the closet. But also against polygamy. They
- 22:11were very strong on that at the time. Unfortunately, they
- 22:14were not against divorce in any way, shape or form. It
- 22:17was almost the norm, I guess, I would say. But
- 22:22when I showed I give I think if I remember quick,
- 22:25it was Pope Saint Clement, the third Pope, actually ordained
- 22:27by Saint Peter, who said Christians must only have one wife,
- 22:31no more polygamy. They actually had to admit, oh, that's Catholic,
- 22:36that's not in the Bible, and it was really troubling
- 22:38to a lot of them, But hey, what are you
- 22:41gonna do? It's the truth. Matrimony is declared to be
- 22:44a sacrament by Saint Paul and the early followers of
- 22:47the Church. Saint Paul calls matrimony a great sacrament because
- 22:51it's typical of the union of Christ and in the
- 22:53Church Ephesians five thirty two, a union by which grace
- 22:56is imparted. Saint Augustine says that the superiority of marriage
- 23:00of the people of God consists in the sanctity of
- 23:02the sacrament. The Heathens, says Saint John Christoustum estimated the
- 23:06happiness of marriage by the number of children, whereas Christians.
- 23:10The Christian considers rather the sanctity of the sacrament. Some
- 23:14of the followers of the opinion that Christ raised matrimony
- 23:17to a sacrament at the marriage of Cana. At any rate,
- 23:19the Church expressly declares that it is truly improperly one
- 23:23of the seven sacraments of the evangelical law instituted by Christ.
- 23:27That's from the Council of trent I Guess Chapter twenty
- 23:31four to one, something like that. Civil marriage is to
- 23:35be distinguished from Christian marriage inasmuch as it is no
- 23:39sacrament and consequently, in the sight of God, no true
- 23:43and real marriage. For Catholics, civil marriages. Civil marriage may
- 23:47be said to have been originated with Luther, for he
- 23:50prepared the way for the state to legislate concerning marriage.
- 23:53What he began, the French Revolution completed, for marriage was
- 23:56then declared to be a civil contract concluded before a
- 23:59government official. Civil marriage is obligatory or compulsory, when, as
- 24:04is the case in some countries, the marriage is otherwise
- 24:07not recognized by the state, it is optional when the
- 24:10parties are free to choose whether ceremonies should be civil
- 24:13or religious, as in America. Finally, it is unavoidable if,
- 24:17on the account of the priests being debarred from marrying
- 24:19them through political reasons or on other obvious grounds, the
- 24:23person desirous of being married cannot be united otherwise than
- 24:26by secular authorities. Priests were not allowed to perform marriages
- 24:32in the French Revolution, a good or era of the
- 24:35Nazi regime. They tried to do the same thing in
- 24:42Spain and Mexico. I mean the Communists really hate marriage.
- 24:46I mean marriage being the foundation of the of of
- 24:50really the Christian family. Communists hate marriage. The devil hates marriage.
- 24:55That's the bottom line. And Protestantism is very much founded
- 24:59on divorce. Civil marriage is not a sacrament because it
- 25:04is not contracted in the manner ordained by God in
- 25:06the Church. It is nothing more or less than a
- 25:08legal form which must be gone through in order that
- 25:11the marriage may be recognized by the state, and Catholics
- 25:14must submit to it if there is no other means
- 25:16of having their union recognized by the state. They should
- 25:19not ever see the ecclesiastical ceremony. They should, I'm sorry,
- 25:24let me try again. They should, however, see that the
- 25:27ecclesiastical ceremony takes place as soon after as possible, for
- 25:31in TiAl of their marriage has been solemnized by the Church,
- 25:36they are bound to live apart as in the side
- 25:38of God, they are not really husband and wife. Catholics
- 25:41who contract civil marriages are not afterward and are not
- 25:44afterward married in the Church, cannot obtain absolution and are
- 25:48excluded from the sacraments until they obtain the sanction of
- 25:51God and the Church upon their union, or give it
- 25:54up altogether. Catholics who prefer civil marriage when it is
- 25:57optional or optional, or can hint themselves with it when
- 26:01it is unavoidable, are excommunicated. Isn't that interesting. I'm not
- 26:06sure that that's still current teaching, but I would definitely
- 26:11check with my priest to make sure. I mean, there's
- 26:18no reason that shouldn't still be church law. I haven't
- 26:20heard people talk about it though, but you know, in
- 26:23order to get married in the Catholic Church, you do
- 26:25have to go through premarital counseling with your priest, and
- 26:30that's maybe that's something he tells people. I'm not married.
- 26:32God's never brought the right woman into my life. I
- 26:34still hope to get married and have a family someday,
- 26:36so I'll find out all about that later. The Holy
- 26:40See condemns civil marriages in no measured terms. Pope Pious
- 26:44the Ninth declares the union of man and woman, if
- 26:47not a sacrament, is a shameful concubinage. Although perfectly legal
- 26:52according to civil code, civil marriage has disastrous results for
- 26:57the state, for it undermines faith and authority and morals.
- 27:03Let's see, the Holy Father, let me see, there's actually
- 27:06a footnote here for what Popius said. What is said
- 27:10in this paragraph respecting the invalidity of civil or clandestine
- 27:14marriages is only true in those countries where the decree
- 27:18of the Council of Trent has been duly promulgated. In England, Scotland,
- 27:22and most of the United States of America. Marriage contracted
- 27:25between two baptized Catholics without the sanction of the Catholic
- 27:28Church is a valid marriage and sacrament, although an unlawful
- 27:32and sacrilegious act. There, Okay, that's perfect. That was the
- 27:35clarification I needed. In all cases where there is any
- 27:38doubt about the validity of a marriage to parish priest
- 27:40or the bishop of the diocese should be consulted. Absolutely,
- 27:43So I was actually right on that. That's good. Okay, okay.
- 27:48Civil marriage has disastrous results for the state, for it
- 27:51undermines faith, authority, and morals. The Holy Father asserted civil
- 27:55marriage to be a fatal institution. To render it compulsory
- 27:59is to over throw the law of God, or is
- 28:02tantamount to abserning that Christian marriage is ordained by God,
- 28:06is invalid and a union blessed by the churches contrary
- 28:10to law. What would be said if stealing or any
- 28:13other crime forbidden by the Divine command were enforced by
- 28:16the law of the land. Rebellions such as this against
- 28:18God cannot fail to undermine the faith in God and
- 28:21respect for His commandments, and experience proves that the government,
- 28:25which undermines the divine authority brings about its own downfall.
- 28:29Civil marriages are also detrimental to morality. Divorce is an
- 28:34easy matter for persons who have been married by a
- 28:36registrar on a comparatively slight disagreement or offense. They are separated,
- 28:42each being free to contract a second marriage. What is
- 28:45the consequence. The floodgates are open to admit unbridled license
- 28:49the so called free love advocated by socialists. Yes, this
- 28:52was true even in the eighteen nineties. That's where they
- 28:55got it. In the sixties. The whole hippie free love
- 28:58thing was actually a tenant of socialism and communism in
- 29:03the eighteen hundreds. Really, at least beginning around eighteen forty
- 29:08to eighteen sixty. You know, Marx and Ingalls were doing
- 29:11their writing, and there were communists before them. They were
- 29:15just the ones picked right in the manifesto. So it's
- 29:17been a way around for quite a while. This is
- 29:21proved by the number of divorce cases falling on the
- 29:25deduction of civil marriage. Nor need we wonder for in
- 29:28a civil marriage, no promise of mutual love, no valle fidelity,
- 29:31is required from the contracting parties. According to the Ordinances
- 29:37of Christ, Christian marriage is strictly a union between two
- 29:40persons only, and that is indissoluble. Matrimony was raised by
- 29:45our Lord to the dignity of a state of evangelical perfection,
- 29:48to which weightier responsibilities and more laborious duties were attached
- 29:53than the ages preceding his advent. He therefore granted greater
- 29:57graces to those who should enter into wedlock. Christian marriage
- 30:01consists of the union of one man and one woman only.
- 30:05By creating only one man and one woman, God manifests
- 30:08it to be his will that marriage should be the
- 30:10union of two persons only. Our Lord pointed out that
- 30:14in the beginning this was so Matthew nineteen four. The
- 30:18marriage that does not answer to this description cannot possibly
- 30:21be a true and lasting partnership. Domestic strife must Infallibians
- 30:26infallibly ensue. Yet in the earlier times God permitted polygamy
- 30:32to prevent greater evils. A plurality of wives is forbidden
- 30:36by Our Lord in Luke sixteen eighteen. Okay, apparently that
- 30:41wasn't really explicit enough for the Baptist at the College,
- 30:44and God admits it's not as explicit as I would prefer,
- 30:49but ye Saint Clement made it absolutely clear. Consequently, is
- 30:55prohibited more strictly by the law of the Church. Polygamy
- 30:58is unlawful and a violent of the natural law ord
- 31:01the Council of Trent. It continues, however, to exist among
- 31:05Mohammed Men Mohammed Muslims, and among the Jews in the
- 31:10East but the West, ever since the Middle Ages. In
- 31:13the West, ever since the Middle Ages, the Jews gave
- 31:15it up as well. In deference to the code of
- 31:17morality absorbed by European nations. Christian marriage is indissoluble, that
- 31:23is saying, neither husband nor wife can contract a second
- 31:25marriage during the lifetime with the other. The principal object
- 31:28of matrimony is to provide for the proper bringing up
- 31:31of children, an object which could not be obtained if
- 31:35the nuptial tie were dissoluble. What would become of the
- 31:38children that the parents were free to separate at their pleasure? Well,
- 31:42we can answer that in our time, can't we furries
- 31:45and trans and drug gags and overdoses and suicides. Anyway,
- 31:51Our Lord strictly forbids anyone to marry again as long
- 31:55as the partner of his or her first marriage is living.
- 31:58I stated that Matthew I've thirty two and Mark ten eleven.
- 32:02Under the Law of Moses, the Jews were, it is true, permitted,
- 32:05under exceptional circumstances, to put away their wives. But this
- 32:09was only by reason of the hardness of their hearts
- 32:11and to prevent worse evils from Matthew nineteen eight. Christ
- 32:16Christ withdrew this permission. He states expressly what God hath
- 32:21joined together, let no man put asunder Matthew nineteen four
- 32:25through nine. Hence, the Popes have never allowed one of
- 32:29two lawfully married persons to contract a second marriage during
- 32:32the lifetime of the other party. Not even for the
- 32:35sake of averting the most serious calamities, could they consent
- 32:38to such a thing. It is well known that King
- 32:40Henry the eighth of England could not wring from the
- 32:43Holy See permission to divorce his rightful wife and marry
- 32:46another eventually, that eventually, in consideration of the services he
- 32:51had rendered to the cause of religion, and of the
- 32:53fearful consequences which would ensue upon the introduction of the
- 32:57Lutheran heresy to England, not even considering that could Clement
- 33:02the seventh be prevailed upon to give any other reply
- 33:05than this non possumous It is not possible. I have
- 33:09no authority to set aside the divine law, he said. Matrimony,
- 33:13says Saint Augustine, is an iron chain. A man can
- 33:17sell a house which he has bought if he does
- 33:19not suit him, but once married, he cannot get rid
- 33:21of his wife. A soul can separate from the body
- 33:24sooner than the husband from the wife. And if either
- 33:27party should contract a second marriage while the others still alive,
- 33:31he or she commits a mortal sin and the marriage
- 33:33is invalid. It is, however, possible for a married couple
- 33:37to be separated, provided there are sufficient grounds for separation.
- 33:42If either party is guilty of adultery, then separation may
- 33:45be for life, since there's a violation of the contract
- 33:48and the rights conferred by that contract or lost. Yet
- 33:52neither can enter a print of fresh espousal Matthew five
- 33:55thirty two. Dissolute conduct or cruelty on either side would
- 33:58afford a reason for a temporary separation, which must be judicial,
- 34:02And if the parties agree to cohabitate again, they can
- 34:05do so, it will the secretcy here. Yeah, well, I
- 34:13don't want to go. I'll go just one more sub
- 34:15sub chapter here, and we'll cut off for today and
- 34:19pick back up on the same topic next week. The
- 34:22grace is conferred in matrimony. A sacrament of matrimony confers
- 34:26upon Christians who embrace that state, both an increase of
- 34:29sanctifying grace, and, in addition, the special grace is necessary
- 34:33to enable them to discharge the duties required of them.
- 34:37These special graces annex the sacrament are one, the mutual
- 34:40affection of those who receive it is confirmed and sanctified. Two.
- 34:44Strength is given them to preserve inviolable fidelity to one
- 34:48another and bear with patient sye ills of life. For
- 34:52as soon as a man is married, he is no
- 34:53longer free as when he was single, no longer absolute
- 34:57master of his will, his time, his goods is per
- 35:00but he is in a measure dependent on the will
- 35:03of his wife. He wears the yoke. For marriage to
- 35:06Saint Andrews is a yoke. He who wears the yoke
- 35:10It wears a double yoke which rests on the necks
- 35:13of both husband and wife, obliging them to pull together.
- 35:16To this has added many trials such as ill healthed,
- 35:19the faults and failings of each other, which must be
- 35:21born with, which must be born with, troubles with the children,
- 35:27et cetera. Finally, grace is given to discharge the most
- 35:30important duty of all, that of bringing up children the
- 35:33fear and love of God. I'mhappy, though, says Pope Gregory
- 35:37the sixteenth, who enter upon the married state from merely
- 35:40earthly motives or for sensual gratification, and do not think
- 35:44of the graces and mysteries which this sacrament confers and represents.
- 35:49All Right, y'all, I Am going to wrap it up there.
- 35:51We will talk about impediments to matrimony. Well in next
- 35:56week we'll start with that. You know, and you're not
- 36:00actually allowed to marry each other. There are actually some
- 36:04pretty serious grounds for that, and that's one of the
- 36:07reasons that Catholics have to go to pre Mary little counseling.
- 36:12Believe denormous like six months of counseling before the priest
- 36:15will will marry you. First of all, he has to
- 36:19say okay legally under the church law and even in
- 36:23some cases under laws of the country, these two people
- 36:26can marry. They will, it's going to be a valid union.
- 36:30They're going to bring up their children as Catholics. It's
- 36:35going to be a valid sacrament. If he can't say that,
- 36:37the priests can not agree to marry somebody. And a
- 36:41lot of priests I've known seem to take that pret
- 36:45darn seriously. They see they see that as a good
- 36:48role that they have, and it's a very good thing.
- 36:51It's a very very good thing. That certainly was not
- 36:54the case at a certain Southern Baptist university that I attended,
- 37:00where people seem to change spouses as often as they
- 37:04bought a new pair of shoes or change their sucks,
- 37:08and they could still be ministers and professors and all that,
- 37:12and nobody had a problem with it. And when you say,
- 37:15but Jesus said that, they say, yeah, we don't believe that.
- 37:18Our doctrine says that divorce is okay. And you just
- 37:22like you just invalidated the word of God because your
- 37:28doctrine says this. You know, your doctrine doesn't agree with
- 37:30the Bible. No, we don't believe that our doctrine agrees
- 37:33with everything in the Bible. The Bible is the sole
- 37:34authority but here Jesus, we don't believe that you just
- 37:39you hit a brick wall. You hit a brick wall
- 37:43of illogic. It's just absolutely amazing. All right y'all anyway,
- 37:49have a great week and I'll talk to you next time.