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Jaguars Happy Hour | Reviewing Loss to Texans, Getting Back to Complimentary Football · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, November tenth. This is Jeckuars Happy Out.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 3: And now a guy who thought the dryer was shrinking
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  Speaker 3: all of his clothes, turns out it was his refrigerator.
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  Speaker 1: Jay p Check, Welcome in. It is a Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: our first hour, presented by Jet Home Loans. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: got some things to get to today after week ten,
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  Speaker 1: and our show is presented and our coming up is
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  Speaker 1: presented by Deep Eddie Vodka, handcrafted with real fruit, proud
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  Speaker 1: partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yes, a nineteen point blown
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  Speaker 1: lead is the largest enfranchise history in the Jaguars allowed
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  Speaker 1: twenty six unanswered points to the Houston Texans, who won
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  Speaker 1: thirty six to twenty nine. With all that, and we
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  Speaker 1: will get to all that, the Jaguars are still in
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  Speaker 1: the AFC playoff rate, says the seventh seed as it
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  Speaker 1: stands today, we'll keep it real about quarterback play.
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  Speaker 4: For the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Fan questions and there were a ton of those, and
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  Speaker 1: they're still rolling in. In fact, we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League. We've got a busy show ahead. CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports senior writer Pete Frisco with us down in South Florida,
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  Speaker 1: former Jags defensive in Austin Lane with me here in
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  Speaker 1: studio and.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, Austin good after that? What's up man? Hi doing?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Listen, I have a lot to get off my chest,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of emotion because I didn't get a chance
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  Speaker 5: to do it during the game. Made the mistake of
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  Speaker 5: watching the game with my girlfriend of like three months now,
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  Speaker 5: and it was her first football game ever. She grew
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  Speaker 5: up in Australia, didn't understand the rules. So I had
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  Speaker 5: to make the decision of well, do I just let
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  Speaker 5: her see the full fledged Austin Lane and all my
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  Speaker 5: unhingedness in the fourth quarter, or I just do I
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  Speaker 5: just kind of play it cool and be like, eh,
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  Speaker 5: it's football.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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  Speaker 5: And I went with the latter so stone relationship, but
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  Speaker 5: I felt like Jigsaw was going to come out when
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  Speaker 5: it's little like a tricycle and say, hey, do you
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  Speaker 5: want to play a game? Because the mental gymnastics I
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  Speaker 5: had to go through from well do I let the
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  Speaker 5: expectives fly here on that fourth quarter collapse or do
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  Speaker 5: I just keep it cool? Because she has the perceived
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  Speaker 5: notion of who I am now didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Want to show the real Jags fan. Austin, Well, not yet.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe tonight tonight for that, Austin Pete, how are.
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  Speaker 3: You so he's a fraud, then.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she's tonight?
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  Speaker 5: How it is?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 5: We know those like those fresh relationships where you kind
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  Speaker 5: of got to turn it on a little more, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: turn on that charm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, what I say to that, Austin, You're good enough,
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  Speaker 6: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: People like you.
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  Speaker 4: Here's fine. Here come that bomb sounds good?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this show not in this show yet.
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  Speaker 3: But no, not here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I watched that game yesterday and I could feel
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  Speaker 6: it coming, you could, you could sense it was coming.
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  Speaker 3: And look it's it's just a great one choke job.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it is. You want to describe it any
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  Speaker 3: other way, go ahead, but it's a choke job. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you lead nineteen by nineteen, should have been twenty by
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  Speaker 3: the way, we'll get into that too, but it should
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  Speaker 3: have been twenty. You lead by nineteen and you lose
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  Speaker 3: to Davis Bills. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we'll dissect it every which way imaginable. I
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  Speaker 6: watched the tape today and threw up again watching it.
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  Speaker 6: That's how bad it was. It's awful.
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  Speaker 1: It was fourth quarter, obviously, all hell broke loose, where
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense couldn't do anything. They had one first
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  Speaker 1: down on the whole quarter, a couple of three and outs,
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  Speaker 1: and then on the other side, the Texans couldn't stop
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  Speaker 1: moving the football and the Jags couldn't get off the
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  Speaker 1: field defensively, and Davis Mills caps it off, by the
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  Speaker 1: way with his legs fourteen yard are on third and
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  Speaker 1: goal for the go ahead score, which is just a backbreaker.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that built up to
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  Speaker 1: this in the fourth quarter, but for me, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of felted after that first touchdown on the two pointer.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, wait a minute, it's a two score
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  Speaker 1: game all of a sudden. There's a lot of football
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  Speaker 1: left here, and if they have just moved it offensively,
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  Speaker 1: we can go both sides here, and we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: both sides. Offense and defense had.
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  Speaker 4: A hand in this thing.
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  Speaker 5: No without offensive defense definitely had a hand in this, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, towards the end, it seems like the defense
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  Speaker 5: is game to win, to go out there and stop
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  Speaker 5: a quarterback of Davis Mills, which doesn't really strike fear.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like in anybody.
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  Speaker 5: But the way I look at it like this, because
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  Speaker 5: there's so many there's so much finger pointing to go around,
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  Speaker 5: and no one's really safe from it. And we can
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  Speaker 5: say offense, defense, special teams actually played pretty well. But
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  Speaker 5: the way like where I want to start at least
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  Speaker 5: where I start at it is if you go around
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  Speaker 5: every single NFL roster and you see the top five
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  Speaker 5: highest players, and then you go, Okay, how are they contributing?
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  Speaker 5: The good team's gonna be okay, top five highest players,
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  Speaker 5: they're playing pretty well or they're contributing. If you get
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  Speaker 5: on the list of the top five highest page Axel
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars right now on this franchise, and you see how
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  Speaker 5: they did yesterday, you.
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  Speaker 3: Have Trevor's one not literally not playing work the money.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Number two is who heins Allen?
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  Speaker 4: Right, Josh heines Allen was a no show? Miss mmma.
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  Speaker 6: I mean there's no look, we all like Josh, and
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  Speaker 6: Josh has had some good games and Josh probably frustrated
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  Speaker 6: by the fact that he gets a lot of chipping,
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  Speaker 6: but he was a no show on Sunday and that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going down cap hit here. Okay, Lawrence won hinds
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  Speaker 1: Allen to Treyvon and Walker actually is the third highest
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  Speaker 1: cap hit No show Foyer Luikin.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, just a guy and he makes a lot of tackles,
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  Speaker 3: but no where the impact plays.
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  Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton, he's the fifth highest paid by cap hit.
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  Speaker 6: He actually, by the way, he actually plays. Uh, he's
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  Speaker 6: playing the pretty well. He's actually one of the few
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  Speaker 6: guys that's actually played.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then up there you got Diami Brown, then he
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  Speaker 1: got Armstead, then he got Walker little by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who is abyssmal with a capital A?
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  Speaker 6: I mean one one thing though, Morris the tight end
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  Speaker 6: gave up one sack to Daniel Hunter. It wasn't It
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  Speaker 6: wasn't on Walker though, and Anton Harrison gave up one
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  Speaker 6: sack to Daniel Hunter, so they weren't all on him.
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  Speaker 3: But he's not good either.
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  Speaker 1: It means they were more for Walker though, what's that?
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  Speaker 1: It means there were two more left for Walker little?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and he wasn't good. He's not good. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he isn't.
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  Speaker 6: The offensive line and the defensive line were whipped. Both
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  Speaker 6: of them whipped and you can't win that way.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: It's funny when you look at this team and you say,
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  Speaker 6: and I've been around that organization.
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  Speaker 3: For a long time.
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  Speaker 6: I covered the teams in the beginning in ninety five,
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  Speaker 6: in ninety six when they went on they went on
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  Speaker 6: a little run the end and made the postseason, And
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  Speaker 6: you said, Okay, is it real?
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  Speaker 3: Is it accident? What is it? But they had building blocks.
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  Speaker 3: They had building blocks.
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  Speaker 6: They had Selliot left tackle, they had Leon at right tackle.
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  Speaker 3: You had you know, the quarterback you could count. You
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  Speaker 3: had Jimmy and Keenan, and you had you know, on
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  Speaker 3: the other side of the ball, you had Brackens and Hardy,
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  Speaker 3: and you had building block.
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  Speaker 6: Where are the building blocks on this team right now?
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  Speaker 6: If I asked you right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, who are the guys you can count on with
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  Speaker 3: one certain to be building blocks for the future.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and this is my point, right because those highest
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  Speaker 5: paid guys on this roster should be those building blocks.
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  Speaker 5: Like to me, it goes hand in hand, right. So
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  Speaker 5: if we're on the conversation right now of Okay, Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 5: you know, not his best game yesterday. Josh aanz Allen
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  Speaker 5: didn't really show up and by the way, against the
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  Speaker 5: Houston offensive line, that was makeshift takes the stakes, that
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  Speaker 5: was makeshift.
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  Speaker 1: Rookie left tackle, two backups on the other side with
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  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and the backup backup went out and they brought
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  Speaker 3: another backup yeah, at right guard.
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  Speaker 5: So like if these I mean, this is where you
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  Speaker 5: got to start from. Right, Like, listen, you can go
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  Speaker 5: top to bottom and say, okay, this guy. You got
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  Speaker 5: to start with the top of who's making the most
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  Speaker 5: money and what it's coming down to. And right now,
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  Speaker 5: with that list that you said, JP, I don't think
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  Speaker 5: anyone's really playing above themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know the number one guy is not going
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  Speaker 1: to go anywhere for a while.
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  Speaker 3: The quarterback, well, you could get rid of him in
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years next not next year, but the
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  Speaker 3: year after.
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  Speaker 6: And technically I think if you wanted to, you could
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  Speaker 6: trade him now. I think he has no trade clause
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  Speaker 6: in that contract though, I think, and you could trade
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  Speaker 6: him now and a lot of the option bonus money
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  Speaker 6: would be off the books for going forward and you would.
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  Speaker 3: Have to pay that. So we take it. But if
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  Speaker 3: you cut, you could never get rid of them. Just
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  Speaker 3: get rid of them. That couldn't happen because there's so
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  Speaker 3: much there be one hundred and twenty million or one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen million dollars of acceleration. They could do that,
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  Speaker 3: and this is what are you playing with? If you
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  Speaker 3: get rid of them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, this will be a conversation for keeping it real
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  Speaker 1: in the second hour about the quarterback play and how
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  Speaker 1: hell they might need to approach this.
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  Speaker 6: More than anything, Okay, the quarterback play wasn't good, but
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  Speaker 6: more than anything, the lines got beat up.
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  Speaker 1: Well you hey, the defense for these Texans, let's give
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  Speaker 1: them credit. They are the number one defense in.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great defense. But little was bad.
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  Speaker 6: Van Lannon struggled in his start. The center was okay,
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  Speaker 6: the right guard was okay. He wasn't as bad as
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  Speaker 6: he's been.
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  Speaker 3: And then he went out, and then the right tackle
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  Speaker 3: got hurt, and they bring a dog in and those
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  Speaker 3: those big tight end for me, he's awful right now.
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  Speaker 3: He's he can't block anybody, and he gets penalties out
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  Speaker 3: all over the place, and so you go to the
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  Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. No pen by the way,
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  Speaker 3: the sack that Trayvon Walker had, yes, where he had
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  Speaker 3: the penalty, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know what that was Trent Brown tried to cut him
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  Speaker 6: because it's supposed to be a quick.
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  Speaker 3: Throw and he jumped over the cut. It wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: he won. He didn't win. He jumped over him. And
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  Speaker 3: the other one where he pressured him the one time
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  Speaker 3: they didn't block him. He's not winning against anybody. They
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  Speaker 3: picked that man over Aiden Hutchinson. Think about that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and listen, and he'll always be compared to
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  Speaker 5: Hutchinson too, I guess, just the fact of the matter.
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  Speaker 4: And he didn't well previous the previous didn't.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I think, I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of frustrating things to take away. You saw this
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  Speaker 5: offensive line at home against Houston. Hold up there in
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  Speaker 5: the bargain right, Like, I understand that the offense wasn't
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  Speaker 5: on full display, you know, game one against Houston here
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  Speaker 5: in Jacksonville. But I thought the offensive line that game
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  Speaker 5: did a fantastic job. So I'm not sure what changed
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  Speaker 5: from then until yesterday because it wasn't like Houston out
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  Speaker 5: schemed you like, did this thing about that Houston Texas defense.
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  Speaker 5: They have so many big names, so many like star players.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have to blitze you. They don't have to
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  Speaker 5: throw these crazy schemes and variations at you. They just
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  Speaker 5: rush for and get home. So I want to know
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  Speaker 5: what changed from the first Houston game to the second
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  Speaker 5: Houston game, And I wish I had an answer for it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they ran the ball in the second half of
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  Speaker 3: the first Houston game. They did do that, correct, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so they I mean they got put and I think
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  Speaker 3: they showed signs of running the ball on Sunday and
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  Speaker 3: then they kind of got away from it. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: run it. I mean I would have run it more,
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  Speaker 3: try and use the clock. When you got a nineteen
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  Speaker 3: point lead, you got to run the ball more.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's almost I don't want to say run
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  Speaker 1: it three times and just kill a minute and forty,
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  Speaker 1: but like you know, I almost run.
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  Speaker 3: You can't put this one on the offense. When you
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  Speaker 3: got a nineteen point lead, you gotta not to mention
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  Speaker 3: the game winning drive. You got that guy gid it
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  Speaker 3: to seven. You got to stop them and get off
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  Speaker 3: the field and win the game.
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  Speaker 6: But that's on the defense even up that those nineteen
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  Speaker 6: Now it's not like the offense scored a boat lo
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  Speaker 6: to points, but you scored twenty nine.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever way you got them, you're supposed to win.
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  Speaker 5: Well, your special games helped out to a twenty nine.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't just the offense putting up twenty nine points
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  Speaker 5: like special teams had a lot to do with that
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  Speaker 5: as well.
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  Speaker 3: And the game.
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  Speaker 5: No, and I agree with you, but this is where
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  Speaker 5: complimentary football comes into play. Yes, this is on the defense,
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  Speaker 5: hands down, without a doubt. But me and this is
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  Speaker 5: the former player speaking now, it fell on defense and
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching the offense in the second half, flesh in
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  Speaker 5: that fourth quarter, go three and out, three and out,
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  Speaker 5: three and out. I'm gonna feel a certain type of
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  Speaker 5: way about it. I'm already exhausted as it is, and
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  Speaker 5: you guys can't, you know, sustain a drive like that's
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  Speaker 5: what complimentary football is. And we didn't see complimentary football
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  Speaker 5: from that offense in that fourth quarter, and it put
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  Speaker 5: the defense behind the eight ball. Like we can sit
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  Speaker 5: here and say that, you know, in terms of what
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  Speaker 5: you have in the roster, what he haves in the
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  Speaker 5: defense right now, injuries and all this stuff. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 5: they don't have the best names, maybe aren't the most
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  Speaker 5: confident in the secondary, but it does not help things
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  Speaker 5: when guys are exhausted because your offense is going three
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  Speaker 5: and out, three and out, three and out either.
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  Speaker 6: No, but Austin, if I told you, as a defensive player,
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna have Davis Mills ninety eight yards away from
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  Speaker 6: going to win the game and the closing minutes, would
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  Speaker 6: you take it?
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  Speaker 5: I would have said, how do you get this this
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  Speaker 5: close in the first place?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean.
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  Speaker 6: Get drove down again? Earlier of the thing they had
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  Speaker 6: when he hit Schultz in the back of the end zone,
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  Speaker 6: he had a month.
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  Speaker 3: To stand in the pot.
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  Speaker 5: There's that, and then there's a scramble for me like
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  Speaker 5: that that play was that can't happen.
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  Speaker 4: That scramble for I think was fourteen fourteen, and then.
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  Speaker 3: And watching it today, they get you know, Josh heinz
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  Speaker 3: Allen gets caught inside, so he goes out or he
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  Speaker 3: went inside of him, he went up the field, he
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  Speaker 3: went inside of him. And then when he went up
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  Speaker 3: the field, what was Devin Lloyd doing? I couldn't figure
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  Speaker 3: out what he was doing. He has his back to him.
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  Speaker 6: And then Newsom got caught inside and couldn't for whatever
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  Speaker 6: reason and couldn't get back outside. It was just a
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  Speaker 6: It was a horrible defensive and you let that guy
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  Speaker 6: run for the game winning touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: That should never act.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the first things Liam Cohen said
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  Speaker 1: in the postgame interview was like, we let their guy
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  Speaker 1: run for third and fourteen game winning touchdown. It was
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  Speaker 1: one of the first things on his mind was that.
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  Speaker 3: Comes inside of him. What is Devin Lloyd doing?
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  Speaker 1: He's getting blocked out like a rebound. What and he's
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  Speaker 1: getting blocked out like a rebound like the guy he.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't he was he had his back to turn it
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  Speaker 3: to run that again.
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  Speaker 1: You know when he finally turned around. The guy's got
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  Speaker 1: his hip on him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, but here he is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying he should have read through there.
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  Speaker 3: He is turn turned back to him right right, and
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  Speaker 3: he's got it. He's got to help over the top.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't need to do that. That's just it. When
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  Speaker 3: you really dissect the defense, the palin at that great,
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  Speaker 3: Let's be real, it's just not.
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  Speaker 6: You can't rush the passer with four so you gotta
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  Speaker 6: try and blitz, and your safeties can't cover a lick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, one can't run and the other one never.
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  Speaker 6: In position because he doesn't know what he's doing. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: Antonio Johnson gets so caught out of position all the time.
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  Speaker 3: It's unreal. You saw in the game last week, he
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  Speaker 3: should have it.
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  Speaker 6: If they don't bat the ball down, he's his guy's
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  Speaker 6: wide open to the back of the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: They should have won the game.
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  Speaker 6: So then he can't He gets out of position and
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: the other guy can't run at all, so you can't
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: really blitz and expose those guys. Monterrek Brown can't run,
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: so he can't cover anybody a man the man situations.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: So what do you do? I mean, Campanelli's he's caught
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: between a ruck and art place unless those pass rushers
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: start doing something.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: I always try to err on the side of the
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: players here, being a former player myself, but it's there's
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: no scheme, there's no magic thing that you can drop
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: to try to be successful.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Right now in defense, you simply cannot.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: And you know, I think a lot of it, and
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: I talked about this in the preseason.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: We talked about it during you know, week one.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Week two, until your defensive line is an issue and
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: I get right now, you're your quarterback, you're leading quarterback,
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: socker is Eric Armsteadt and everything, but interior defensive line
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: right now is an issue, and it was something that
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: wasn't addressed in free agency. You trade it for Colin
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Saunders and we haven't really seen a lot of him.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: We've played yesterday. We haven't seen a lot of Austin Johnson.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: And you know, reports are saying that Quinn Williams was
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: maybe on the table for the Jaguars to get him,
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: but he goes to Dallas. Nonetheless, this was a problem
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: all you know all preseason and now we're here, and
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: what you have is what you have, and unfortunately you
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: can't scheme out of this.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: It's just.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: You gotta do with what you got.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Guys gotta play better, and that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Actually played pretty good football on Sunday. I gave him
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: that he was actually better.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: And we'll dig deeper onto the defense coming up in
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: just a little bit. We're gonna flip it back to
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: offense and that offensive line when we return and some
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: of the injuries and what happened in the fourth quarter
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: or didn't happen in the fourth quarter offensively, not much
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: happened in the fourth quarter offensively for the Jaguars. A
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  Speaker 4: We've got a.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Long list to get through.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Tonight.
• 17:15
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• 17:24
  Speaker 4: You know, give all the credits them there.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: They are really good defense.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: So they made some plays today where you know, good
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: good defensive, good teams are going to make plays. But
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: also feel like we left some stuff out there that
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: we had some opportunities and we just have to be
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: better and make those moving forward.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: We need them.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: You know, we got to play better offensively, We got
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: to move the ball better, got to score more. Had
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: a lot of short fields today and we just got
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: to take advantage of that and be able to, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: put a team away when you got them, when you
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: got them down that much, and you gotta be able
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: to finish and put the game away.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: That is the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game in
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Houston yesterday. Collapse the largest in Jaguars history, thirty six
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to twenty nine final score Texans. With the victory, they
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: improved the four and five Jaguars fall to five and four,
• 18:10
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• 18:17
  Speaker 1: plenty to get to. We'll dig deeper on the defensive
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: side of the football coming up in just a little bit,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: but we'll stay on the offensive side here, and we're
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: gonna dig deeper into Trevor Lawrence's day and keeping it real.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: We're gonna fake it the first hour and a half
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and then we'll get to keeping it real just a
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: little bit. We've talked through this offensive line, but let's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, they had some players down right. Ezra Cleveland
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: was out left guard. They were down to two tight
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: ends again yesterday, Hunter Long was out, McCarry goes down
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Harrison left the game. They were
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: missing some obviously. Brian Thomas Junior did not play in
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the game. Parker Washington had I think one of his
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: better days obviously with the touchdown, a punt return touchdown.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: But you know where are they with the skill guys
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: right now on this team in the running back Like
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you said, they only ran for fifty eight yards for
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: ETN on sixteen carries, and you know, you could argue
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: they could have run it a little bit more in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you're asking where they're at with their
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: skill guys, I mean, and we've been preaching this. I
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: feel like the past couple of games in terms of
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: what the game plans got to be, who your identity's
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: got to be. And I get you're paying your quarterback
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: a lot of money, but you want to see Travis
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: etn carry the workload and you want to see more
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: of running the football. And that's in the first half,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: and that's the second half as well, you know, I think,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: and I spear this before a little bit, I always
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: feel like sometimes in the second half, when the Jaguars
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: are up, it seems like Liam Cohen wants to get
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: his quarterback some more confidence and make him feel better
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: about everything. And I think in doing that sometimes you
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: lose back to the big picture of trying to win
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: a football game. And I think yesterday, you know, it
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: should have been winning the football game. Run the ball
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: in the second half, and they didn't really do that,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: and then they went three and out, three and out,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: three and out, and you put your defense up in
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: a bad position.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing you get the I can't
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: remember if it was after the turnover.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: But they had a third and two.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: And he ran a zone read and he handed it
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: to Etn and.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: He got stuffed. If he pulls it, he walks in.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that play?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, he walks in.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: What would lead you to hand that ball off and
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: not pull it and run with it?
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, those are the little things that are missing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: What was the penalty on the goal line when it
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: was it was a legal shift or illegal formation? Which
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: one was that when they threw the ball to Myers
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: on a member would have been a touchdown?
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Start fall start?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go another one, yeah, yeah. I mean
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: those are the little things they just kill you. I mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the prestaft penalties. Look, I'm with you. To run the ball.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: They need to run the ball more, particularly with the
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: way the skill group is now, you know, constructed. But
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think they like in the second half when
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: they got they didn't have the ball that much in
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that fourth quarter. But when they got the ball back
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: when they were when they had just scored to make
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: it twenty nine, what do you make it twenty nine?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Twenty four?
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah? What was that? Three three place seats?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I got you right here, Pete. It is twenty nine
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: twenty four Jaguars and the Jacks.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: After the return the long return by tooting right.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the forty one yard return to the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Jaguars forty five yard line for twoton. So seven to
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: twenty nine to play and the Jags are up five.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So Trevor Lawrence scrambles left in he ran out of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: bounds for three yards.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: So they called it. They called a pass play.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Of course. Now etn left tackle for three yards.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: On the ground should be by the way, he should
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: have been about a five yard game or seven yard
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: game because he they remember, they kind of ran a
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: crossbuck on that play where they run.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Him from from the wing and he came.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: He missed, he missed, and there was a block that
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: needed to be held a little longer.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: It would have been a bigger run. So it can't fall.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I mean that one wasn't on him, but it could
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: have been a better game.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Sets up third down and four at the Houston forty
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: nine right incomplete short left to Parker Washington.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was getting pressured though, if I remember correctly.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: So look, so you go pass, run pass, and you
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: use about what thirty five seconds in the play for
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: a minute.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: They punted it back with six sixteen to go, so.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: That that's something you got to look at that. Now.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I could also look at it from the standpoint, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you got the ball at the forty four right and
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that way, they were forty.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Five forty five yard on their own.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: So even if so, you're in the back of your
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: mind you're saying, Okay, get me twenty, I'm getting a
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: field goal and make it eight.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Or if you don't get it, I'm gonna pumped them
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: back in and guy's gotta go to ninety three yards
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: to go beat me.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Well he did, he did, so that could also impact
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: the play call in there, you know what I mean,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: You're not just trying to burn clock. You're trying to
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: get points out of that to make it an a
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: point game. And by the way, if you had kicked
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: the extra point, you would have been trying to make
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: it a nine point game.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: By the way, the I don't understand it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Is you make the point, then they can't just get
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a field goal. I mean you're right, I mean.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're see to me once again that see
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: that that play call in that moment, and I don't
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: know what the analytics say.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I feel about analytics.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: It seemed like they're say, hey, let's let's try this out.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Like it was almost like they're thinking, like, hey, they're
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: gonna come back and score a bunch of points on us,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: so we better get this two point conversion.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Like you can't think like that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: So what understand that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: We go fight it again?
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Hang on the third quarter?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's see. Yeah they made it twenty three.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Oh that was the field goal. Oh here it is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: twenty nine. Yeah, so it was one thirty seven ago
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: in the third.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Okay, so you're sitting there thinking, see here, here's where
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: I have a problem with it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Twenty one points. You want to get it too, twenty one.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: So the best case scenario is they tie if they
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: get three touchdowns. See the way I look at it
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: that way, if you kick your field you kick your
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: extra point, you still have the momentum.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: By not getting the two point play, you kind of
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: flipped it a little gave them some life. That one
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: made no sense to me, And I don't know what
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the analytics say either, Pete.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: What did the analytics say about Davis mill Is going
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: to lead them to a fourth quarter comeback? Right down
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: by nineteen. Like, what did the analytics say about.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars in franchise history, I've never lost a nineteen point.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: So what would you have done? You would have kicked too.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I'd have kicked it absolutely, Yeah, you kick it, get
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: your point.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Make it twenty, yes, make it twenty. And if they
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: had that point, then you go get a field goal
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: in the.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Game's over because it'd be nine. Yeah, So I mean
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: you gotta always spin it forward a little bit. I
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: didn't understand that one at.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: All at all. But but the bottom line is they
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: didn't burn clock. Even having done that, you're still supposed
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: to stop Davis Mills. You're still supposed to.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: The third down play where they hit the cross to
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: Scholtz and they blitzed. That was a blitz, and they
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: got manned the man across the field they beat a
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: lua kon and.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: And that was a That was a blitz blitz right there.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Nobody got home.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to dig into the defense again when
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: we come back and figure it out.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And one quick thing, the interception.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: If he hits Trammel in front of him, he runs
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: for about twenty five yards.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: By the way, it's a bad throw. It's a terrible
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: great play by Stingley throw.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, get back onto the offensive side of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: hour number two and take a deeper look at the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback play. But we return. Yeah, we'll dig deeper into
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the defense as well. And an awful fourth quarter for
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars resulting in a loss. Maybe we'll get
• 26:11
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• 26:32
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• 26:37
  Speaker 2: The whole message was to squeeze the life out of
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: these guys in the second half and go take it,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: go take it. And it's been a frustration for a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: while now, obviously the combination of lack of getting to
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the quarterback and when we do finishing it, but it
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: definitely needs to continue to get it evaluated and see
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: who can help us.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Do those things too, that is the head coach. After
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the game yesterday we heard again from Liam Cohen today,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: we'll hear some of those comments coming up a little
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: later on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: on this Monday, after the Week ten collapse, Jaguars fall
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: in Houston thirty six twenty nine, the final score after
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: carrying a nineteen point lead into the fourth quarter of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars collapse twenty six unanswered points for the Houston Texans,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and the aftermath today and the defense under the microscope
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: again here on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwrick Austin Lane
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville and Hundai Studios, and Pete Prisco's CBS
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Sports senior writer down in South Florida. Two sacks yesterday,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: one from Antonio Johnson, one from Eric Armstead, but not
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: much when it mattered late in those passing situations when
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: they're down by three scores and trying to climb back
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: into a game with the backup quarterback and backup offensive lineman.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: So you know, what else can they do on the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: defensive line? Do you start sitting guys down and giving
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: some younger guys a chance. Strigo bj Green, Like, what's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that's all that's left?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I mean that?
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, Yeah, No, I was gonna say, Strigo
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: plays hard and he's tough, like when the polar comes down,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: he'll blast the polar.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: I mean he's that kind of player. But what are
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: you gonna get from him as a pass rusher? That's
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: not what he is. You see any twitchiness from him?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, do you see any twitch nists from Green?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Have you seen that?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, I mean we haven't had a
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: lot of time on task either, by the way, so.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: The only thing you can I think something they can
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: do is make Walker play inside.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: More travon Walker, Yeah, yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: He ain't winning outside.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But then comes the question, Pete, then who do
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: you replace him with?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Is smooth going outside?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: He's see Smooth looks like me, And I think Smooth's
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: age is impacted him.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: He doesn't play a ton of snaps. I think that's
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: impacted him a little bit. He also looks like he's
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: gotten heavy.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: When you watch the tape at times when you if
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: you don't see the number, you go, is that soln
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Ners or is that Smooth?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Come on, that's aggressive?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: He's gotten look at him. If you ever noticed he's
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: bigger than he's been.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, he does appear a little bit bigger.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I mean if the question, though, is like, what can
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: you do jp to to try to put a band
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: aid on this?
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, first you have to look at it and say, okay,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: well you can't get home with four like, it's simply
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: not gonna happen. And unless you're playing a very porous
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: offensive line, which I thought the Texans were, so I
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: don't know, give me a worst offensive line than Texans
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: were yesterday, I don't know. If you're gonna face it,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: we'll see. But unless you face that, you have to blitz,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: you have to send the house. But I think you
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: can go about it and ser in ways. I think
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: when this defense was playing at its highest level was
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: when they brought everybody in the box and then they
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: drop guys out. You don't know who is gonna rush, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I think they've kind of gone away from that a
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: little bit. I think they simplified things a little more,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: just because with the players that you have, right, like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: you've lost some starters in the back end, so you
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: can't probably do your full play with what you want
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: to do. And there's some defenses that specialize the Houston
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Texans and just running their base defense because they have
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: the skill positions to do that. The Jaguars don't have that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: So you have to disguise things you have to, you know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: give a certain look and then do something completely opposite
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: or that. And I'm not sure the players can handle
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: that right now, but you gotta at least try to
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: because it's it's not working with what you have.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Liam Cohen today said the status close is not
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: an option in this area. So something's gonna happen mm hm,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: whether it's scheme or having different guys up or down
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Look, you gotta change what you do. I'm with Austin,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: go after them if you get beat, I mean, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: and they're going to get beat because the two safeties
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: can't run. I mean what you know. I'm not gonna
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: say Antonio Johnson can run. He just gets caught out
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: of position all the time. Winger can't run, and so
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: that's a problem.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Montarek Brown can't run, so you're not fast, and that
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: that's where you have issues when you try and do
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: all the things that you know. Look, everybody would like
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: to be able to go attack the quarterback and blitz
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: the hell out of them.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: The problem is is the people that hold up on
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the back end, and they don't. But they're tied for
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: what They're tied.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: For thirtieth in the league with one point three sacks
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: per game.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's not good.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: How many sacks do the expensive edge rushers have.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm going to look around the NFL right now,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the top sack guys. Miles Garrett has eleven sacks right now.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: No, no, I'm talking about on this team. How many
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: does Dravon Walker and Josh Hinzell.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: It's not much.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: It's four and a half for Armstead, two for hinds Allen,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: two for Walker.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: You have four sacks in nine games from your edge rushers.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, think about this. Miles Garrett has eleven sacks. The
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Jags have twelve as a team.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And here's the other thing.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: The selling predicted last year that those two guys would
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: have twenty five.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Remember, and he was, he was, He got it right.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: They ain't getting twenty five this year under his watch.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe he wants to go back in that seat. He
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: ended up getting twenty five this year.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: No, Well, I mean, yeah, go ahead of you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Well they're not.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: I mean they're which one who on that team? Do
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: you have to come to the line of scrimmage and go,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: that's it? He's in And look.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I think Jiss finz Allen is a really good football
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: player and a good pass rusher, But twitchy is not
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: what he is. He's you know, he's just he would
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: be great if he had somebody. He'd be great, great
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: if he had somebody on the other side that could
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: give them For example, imagine how could he be if
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Hutchinson was on the other side from him.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think that they're in complete desperation
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: mode in terms of getting their quarterback because there's kind
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: of a couple of unwritten rules. As a defensive lineman
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: when the balls like on the seven or inside the
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: seven yard line and your opponent's going in the red
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: zone and everything they're going in to score, you don't
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: run games when you're that close to the goal line
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: because everything comes out quicker right, and games take time
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: to develop. If you go back and watch yesterday, watch
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: how many times guys were trying to set screw you know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: picks in and run games where the exits Texas when
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: the ball is like on the two yards, like, you
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: can't do that, And then they were trying to do
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: that just because they feel like they can't get home.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Watch what Houston was doing yesterday where if they couldn't
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: get home, what are they doing. They're getting their hands up,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: They're trying to fleck the ball down like It's just
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: it's basic principles of a defense that you're not really
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: seeing with this team right now. And once again, go ahead.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Oh no, I was gonna say, Austin, do you remember
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: the one play where you talk about stunning and Walker
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: looped around.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: And when he looped around, he ran into three Jaguar players.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: They all were in the middle of you remember, yeah, yeah,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and nobody got near them. Yeah, they ran into each other.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just there's just fundamental You're right. The
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: fundamentals at times are bad, you know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: And heinz Allen does get chipped a lot because there
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: isn't anything on really on the other side, so they
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: put the tight end over there and he has to
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: deal with that on a Sunday though he was handled
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: by that rookie. That rookie, the rookie he dominated the
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: last time out handled him on Sunday, which that's.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Not a good look, guys.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Another concerning thing was the final drive for Houston where
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: they're driving down the field. They're running the football on
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: this team too. I mean the Jags gave up sixty
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: three rushing yards in the fourth quarter, most of that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: on that final Tensions possession to take the leady cashing
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: them five seven, ten, two different packs.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: And once again, I think that comes down to more
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: exhaustion than anything. Okay, right, Like if if you watch
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: that Davis Mills twelve orerever thirteen yard run that touchdown,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: watch the defensive line how they react to it. I mean,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: the games on the line. Davis Mills is that quarterback,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: and I'm not seeing one hundred percent effort trying to
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: go after I think I'm going to err on the
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: side of these guys were exhausted.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Now is that an excuse?
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, take it for what you want, but I
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: think guys were tired, man, and and you saw it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: And once again this is an example of complimentary football.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: We are not helping your defense out here.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: It is Walker put his hands, watch watching watch, I mean,
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: is that full speed?
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think so that's that's not full speed.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: But the game there's three seconds you're talking about watch watching.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Here Harry arm Instead, Uh.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Armstead, and we don't know what Lloyd was doing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Guys are exhausted.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you're going to run
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: full speed with thirty seconds left with the game on
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: the line against a divisional opponent who should be one
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: of your biggest rivals, I don't know what to tell you.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: I think guys retired.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Well, Houston was on the field the same amount of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: plays on offense of that drive too, but yeay, So
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I mean that after the third and ten from the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: seven completion for twenty yards, it was five yard run,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: six yard run for a first down, five yard run
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: pass for a first down. Twelve couples on that drive,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: twelve yard run from Chubb, seven yard run from Chubb,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and then they started throwing it around.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: There we go and then they then they once they
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: started throwing it around, nobody blew on them.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: They weren't near the right and again narrow, they didn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: get narrow. I mean he stood back there all day.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's not look, it's it's lack of talent
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: combined with that talent prevent you from doing things you
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: need to do.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Did the takeaways early in the season, Mascal out of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the these.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Issues, I mean, I think without a doubt because even
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: when you had the takeaways and listen, take nothing with
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: from the takeaways pun intended. But like when you talk about, like,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: you know, the the Lloyd interception against Patrick Mahomes, Yeah,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: like that was a good play on Lloyd, right, Like
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: he watched Patrick Mahomes eyes, he went to the ball,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: caught it ninety nine yard whatever, interception or touchdown, Like
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: that's a great play, But like that can mask sometimes
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: the lack of pass rush, right, And I think that's
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: kind of the story all year, like when they were
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: winning and we're defensive creating turnovers, well, well a lot
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: of the turnovers created because the defensive line was getting
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: home or were they more of just kind of bad
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: passes and the safety maybe be in the right spot, right,
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: they might have rushed.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: The execution of the throw a little bit.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, much though not much.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean the ball is fluttering up there sometimes.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, I think one guy on defense who did play well,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Jari and Jones played.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Well interception and not just the interception.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: He played, made a couple of tackles beyond the line.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: He was a great So he played some goods good plays. Again,
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: it's funny you go to the offensive and defensive side
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: of the ball and you say, who was the best
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: offensive player Parker.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Washington, Parker, Yeah, who was the best defensive player? Jarian Jones.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Jorian Jones wasn't even playing in Parker Washington. You expect
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: him to be the third or fourth option. Parker Washington
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: is a gamer. He's a gamer. And by the way,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: there was a play late in that game, maybe not late,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: but third quarter where he has Stingley in a one
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: on one situation and he beats him off the line
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: and the ball got batted down in the line of scrimmage.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I think he had him on the inside. And so
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington best. When Parker Washington is the best player
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: on your offense and Jarian Jones is the best player
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: in your defense, that's a problem.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: And this's ask the question. Yeah, in terms of saladar
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: cap where they getting paid, They're done. I mean, don't
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: look it up, JP, It's it's down the list.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: It way down, it's way down the list. Was that
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: p I on Jarion Pete.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Pulled his left arm, That's what I thought.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were now they were hand jockeying and pushed
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: it off and stuff against each other a little bit.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: But he if he hadn't held on, it wouldn't have been.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: But he held on, so it was. But he made plays,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I give it, and that should be encouraging because I
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: think he lost his confidence a little bit.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and I like Jerian Jones.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Going back from last year when Trevor got you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: the cheap hit and everything like that, Jones.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Was the first guy to go after everybody.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and then Doug Peterson, obviously Lamb based
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: on him, said we don't do that here, which I
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: completely disagreed with it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I disagree with you.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a guy that you want on the field,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I feel like, and in your locker room.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: So he should have scored. He should have scored by
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the way. He should have been a yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but Roker. In terms of that penalty though, it's
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: funny because when I watched it full speed, I'm like, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: that's a penalty. When they slowed it down a little
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: more and it's the hand fighting. Then it's like, okay,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: that was kind of ticky tack. But yeah, watching it
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: in real time, I thought, for shure they throw.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: It was ticky tack, no question was stick attacked. But
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: he did kind of hold the arm so he couldn't
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: get it up. So it was actually most if his
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: name was Sauce Gardner or Patrick Shirtan or Derek Stingley,
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: he gets away with that.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, So let's come back in a moment.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: We'll take a look at special teams.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Some big plays there for this Jaguars team yesterday in
• 40:22
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• 40:54
  Speaker 8: The very first part return, I was upset. Now I
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: got tackled because a definitely a big too. So we
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: got another opportunity. I caught it. I just saw a
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: whole bunch of guys and I was like, let's make
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: a miss, let's make.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: A long miss.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: And I was a funner and it was cool to
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: make a play. But like, we fell short, but we're
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: gonna come back.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: In responding Parker Washington, a seventy two yard punt return
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: touchdown in the game yesterday opened up a three score
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: advantage seventeen to nothing at that point. Jaguars later led
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: by nineteen going into the fourth quarter and lost the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: game thirty six twenty nine the final score. Welcome back,
• 41:31
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• 41:34
  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco. Final moments of this
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: opening hour of the program, and let's end on the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: bright spot in this first hour with Parker Washington. Yes,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you had the great toe tapping catch for a touchdown
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: earlier in the game, which was fantastic in the back line.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And then his third career punt return score later seventy
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: two yards. All three in his career are on deep
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: punts that drive him backwards and all of a sudden
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: he's got fifteen yards or so. Of space, and this
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: one was like a hesitation, let me see what opens,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Boom, he's gone.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: And he knew it at about the forty five yard
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: line that all the only guy left was the punter
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and this was a fantastic return for Parker.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I thought this was the.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Game right here, honestly, like like when we saw this
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: in terms of momentum and everything, and you want to
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: talk about bearing your opponent. I get it was just
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: in the second quarter to starting it out, but I
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: thought this was the nail in the coffin right here
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: in the in the second quarter, like unreal.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: And obviously they come back and you know, the Jaguars lose.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: But I kind of felt back to Parker in that
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: interview because I've been there, Ryert, you had the game
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: of your life, right like, they can't tell you anything,
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: and you got to keep it reserved because even though
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: you did your part, your team didn't and it might
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: have been the worst loss, you know, in franchise history.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You know, he's let's not forget he had one call
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: back too.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's right earlier this year.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's on his way to the Pro Bowl.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's the Pro Bowl return now Barbar Turner.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: So look the kid, like I said earlier, you give
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: me guys like him, and I'm gonna win football games.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: He plays hard. You could tell he loves it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: You could tell he lives it, and he competes every
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: single play.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, like this catch was amazing. Yeah, I mean
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I watched that play on the twenty two and I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out shouldn't even have been thrown there?
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Where was the other option?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Well, he could have checked it down. You had the back.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: What you gotta do is the corner sunk, So you
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: got to make the corner and make a decision between
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: if you look at it. I think you can see
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: it when you show the overhead one. But he could
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: have Look, you'll see see you watched the corner. See
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: how you got seventeen there? You got to you gotta
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: make him. You gotta make him hold him a little
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: bit and if he doesn't, then you throw it to
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: that guy.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: If he does and you throw to him, I think
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: that that was the decision on that play. Well, but
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: great play. It was a great play. I mean he
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: made a great and the kid made a great play.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Watching this game back too, was the game plan to
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: try to pick on Stingley Junior, because last time I
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: checked around, I feel like he's one of the best
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: corners in the league, and for whatever reason, they kept
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: trying to put him to the test. And I didn't
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: understand why.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: The other guy's pretty good, blasted is pretty good and stingy.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: But and you know what, though as much as you
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: we think that the why'd you keep going at him?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: They got they got him. I mean Trammel had him
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: on that throw. Yeah, and he And then I told
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: you there were plays where Parker Washington beat him with
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: some quick There's a play where Parker Washington puts his
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: move on him and you look at it and you
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: go the footwork was incredible and he left Stingley standing
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: there and if he was able to throw the ball
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: in the middle of field, it's going to be a touchdown,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: so or not, maybe not a touchdown, but a big play. Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Look, he's a gamer. Kudos to him. You can just
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: tell it's important to him.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: And you're right.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: He wanted to say everything he wanted to say about
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: him so but he couldn't because.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: He blew ninety so unbelievable.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Enjoy it, buddy, you did it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy three yard of punt return officially. Also, Tooton
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: had a forty one yard kickoff return that we mentioned
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: brief you earlier. But Parker Washington the first NFL player
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: since Nahem Hines of Indy and twenty nineteen with two
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: punt return touchdowns in a season and the second Jags
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: player in franchise history with a receiving touchdown and a
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: punt return touchdown in the same game. And that was
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Keelan cole Back in twenty twenty.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: At Green Bay.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, a game I don't remember during COVID.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, it was a COVID.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: It was a little weird. It was a weird one,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: but it worked. So it's yeah, he's doing stuff. It
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't really happen too much.
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: And then also too, we're talking special teams.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, props once again to Cam Big as I
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: call him now, because dude was money again, you know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: like lost, lost, lost in all this, lost in the
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: horrible loss. But oh and man, they would have aligned
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: him up for a sixty one yard or there at
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: the end, yeah, to win it. Yeah, if in the
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: face doesn't happen, yeah, yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: And then can I just ask one quick question, what
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: the hell was that on the third on the final
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: play of the game.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: Oh with it.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: By the way, it wasn't a hell mayor.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: No, No, I think they were trying to go to
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the boundary again.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know, but it just it was taking
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: too long the boundary.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, it was like six seconds, right, yeah, yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: I mean you you got to go for the zone
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: there like anything you caught in bounds was going to
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: be over for you.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: They didn't run anybody to the end zone. They didn't
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: run zone. Yeah, not one person.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: So I think they got caught not realizing what they
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: needed to do in that scenario. But the way, but
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: did you see the way Liam comed through the headset
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: and everything down.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some perception out there that that was directed
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: as his quarterback.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I don't buy that.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's directed at the nineteen point lead that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: they blew.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that's what I think.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: I think. Since I'm the limb con thing quick and
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: at the break, we talked about this a little more
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: the press conference, where I felt like he kind of
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: put the defense on blast a little bit, so.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: He didn't back down from it today, right, he did.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: So I kind of want to Yeah, I kind of
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: want to address that a little bit.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll dig into all of it when we come
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: back one hour down, one hour to go. We'll keep
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: it real about the quarterback and yes, fan questions as well.
• 47:22
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• 47:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we just talked about as a team that you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: this game can't beat us again, it can't beat us
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: on Sunday at one pm because we're kicking off against
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: the Chargers and I have a very quality opponent coming
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: into town. We're back at you know, we're at home
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: and uh nothing, you know, nobody cares.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares.
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: It's just the next opportunity that we have to go
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: try to get an I mean, that's the reality, is
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: that we gave up a nineteen point lead in the
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: fourth quarter essentially and didn't get it done. Their back
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: was against the wall and they'd played like it.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Said coach William Cohen today on a Zoom conversation with
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the media, the day after a nineteen point fourth quarter
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: lead lost and a game lost in Houston thirty six
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: twenty nine. In the final score, Jags fall to five
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and four and welcome back. Second hour of Jaguars Happy
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: after the game, and during the game. We're on ten
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to next Lamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP, Shadrick with
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you and of course yes, the Jaguars led seventeen to nothing.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: They took advantage of two early takeaways to build a
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: lead and then a punt return touchdown to make it seventeen.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: They led twenty nine to ten entering the fourth quarter,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: but then the Texans outscored the Jags twenty six nothing
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: in the fourth for a stunning thirty six twenty nine.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Win over the Jags.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It was the largest blown lead in franchise history in
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a losing result.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: The Jags actually lost.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: A twenty four point lead in London in twenty fifteen
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: against the Bills, but ended up winning the game anyway.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: The defense couldn't get off the field against the backup
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: O line and backup quarterback, especially late in the game.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: The offense only one first down in the fourth quarter
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and eleven yards of offense. Parker Washington, though the bright
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: spot a touchdown catch seventy four yard punt return touchdown
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and the Jags Currently though, even after all this, the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are the number seven seed in the AFC playoffs
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: if it ended today, and it sets up a pivotal
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: AFC matchup this week the number five seed. At the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: moment the Chargers come to town, they're chasing the Broncos
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: in the AFC West, but a winner with the Chargers
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: for the Jags would go a long way towards getting
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: back on track here and setting things up for the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: stretch run Austin Lane with me here in the Hundai
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Studios in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Plenty
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: to dissect in this game, of course, and now moving
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: ahead with eight games to go in the regular season,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about that playoff graphic?
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Pete?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: That doesn't look like a playoff team that we saw yesterday.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because last week they struggled with
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: the with the Raiders, and you said the Raiders aren't
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: very good. That's not and then the Raiders go to
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: Denver and had a legitimate chance.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: To win that game, right, ten to seven?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Right? I mean, look, you look at the AMC. Every
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: team in that has flaws. Every one of them. You know,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: the Broncos in the two seed right now. The dead
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: offense is awful.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, the Colts have played well, but there's still
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: some concerns there. The Patriots haven't really Now, go to
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: Tampa and win in on Sunday proves a lot about them.
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: And by the way, they're gonna end up with the
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: number one seed in the AFC. Have you seen their schedule?
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, the next three weeks.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: It's Jets Bengal, No, Jets, Bengals, Giants before they're by Yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: they're to have a ten game winning stream.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And so they lost to Las Vegas week one, plus
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: lost to the Raiders week one and.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Lost to the Steelers too. I mean that's another one.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: And so when you look at it, every team has flaws,
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: but Jacksonville has right now, has a ton of flaws.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: What's good, Well, it's not even what.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: What's their identity?
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Like, I can go to Denver right now and I
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: can give you that team identity.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: It may not be pretty.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Bon Nicks may not be being his best football right now,
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: but they have an identity. They play great defense, they
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: can run the football, and every once in a while,
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: bon Nicks will make a good throw.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: I can go to New England right now and say
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: they're gonna pound the rock. Drake May doesn't turn the
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: ball over. Their offensive line can be a little poor sometimes,
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: but like they have all the skills to win football games.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I can go top and down on that list and
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: give you each identity.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: And they stop the run.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: And they stopped the run.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: I go to Jacksonville, I say, I don't know. I
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: guess they can run the football. It's about it when
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: they on the football, when they run the football.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: But that's the other part. What do they do well? What? What?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: What does that team do well?
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Return punts?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Really? Yes, yes, really well?
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: But what else? They don't rush? They're one of the
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: worst pass rushing teams in the league. The offensive line
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: isn't great in run blocking or protecting.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: They have no skin.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: You know, Parker Washington is a nice player, but he
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: should be your number one option. And I mean the
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: quarterback's not playing very well. So what do they do?
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: They don't cover very well? What do they do well?
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: They're a top ten run defense, but when it mattered yesterday,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: they weren't on the last drive.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to give Hamilton credit.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, I think he's actually played pretty
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: good for them.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, I you know, I think
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: you're right. What do you hang your hat on right now?
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Now there's is there?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Is it too late in this season to find things
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: to hang your hat on? No, there's eight games.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: You have to find something, right if you're a coach,
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: if you're Liam Cohen, you got to find something. But
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: this kind of goes back to what I teased going
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: in the break a little bit, where you know, I
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: feel like Liam Cohen's been pretty harsh on the defense,
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: and now the media person of me loves this because
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: he's not like it is the defense lost him the game.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, we can all sit here and say that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: the truth. We got an issue with that, But the
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: player in me goes, okay, yes, if I'm on that defense,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: we lost the game, and you're already feeling, you know,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: a certain type of way about it already. But then
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: as a defender, I can go, okay, but what did
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: the offense do to help us? Out? Right? And when
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: you're an offensive oriented coach, when you're the play caller,
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like and Pete, you know, this. An NFL
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: locker room is a delicate ecosystem, and it's even more
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: delicate when you lose a football game. The last thing
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: you want to do is just put somebody in the
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: corner and say this is kind of the reason why
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: we lost, even though it could be the truth, even
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: though the fans, media people will be yeah, he's not wrong.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: You gotta be carefu with how you come across to
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: your players.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: This is why a lot of coaches in the NFL
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: give you the the boring answers, give you the vanilla answers,
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: because they're protecting what they say from players. I don't
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: think Liam Collen cares about that, and I celebrate we
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: all celebrate him because of that. But you kind of
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: have to teeter titter that line and say, Okay, if
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: you want to put this all on the defense, just
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: be careful because there's guys in there that you're paying
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: a lot of money to that might take it the
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: wrong way.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: So you do think you don't think you saying the
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: same thing behind closed doors? Yes, I mean I hope, so, yeah,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: closed doors. What's the difference without saying in the meeting.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Because there's the thing I don't know what he's saying
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: behind closed doors. I didn't get to see the video
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: after the game when they lost.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Correct, I see it when they win. I don't know
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: what it's like when he loses.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: Here's the other part of the thing, though, of all
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: the other places, offensive line, wide receiver, defensive backfield, the
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: four guys that were supposed to start to see so
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: that defensive line are playing true, true, And that's where
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: I think the frustration comes from. You have a high
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: paid pass rusher who was a first round pick in
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: heinz Allen. You have a high paid number one overall
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: pass rusher in Trayvon Walker.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: You have Armstead who makes a good chunk of change
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: as a veteran interior player. And you have Hamilton who
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: was a third round pick and we look now he
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: makes pretty good money.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: So that's where I think the frustration comes in more
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: than any You know, you don't have your skilled people.
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: There's no skill people that impacts the quarterback. The offensive
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: line had guys banged up in and out, and then
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: Walker has been playing with a club. But the club
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: is now his hand out of it now and basically
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: he can use it. And even when he didn't have
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: a club before he wasn't doing much, so I think
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: that's where the frustration comes in.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Sometimes players got to play us.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: No listen, I get players got to play it. But
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: like I said, it's a delicate ecosystem, especially after a
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: loss like that and hopefully hopefully that once again j
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: because I don't know what the message is behind the scenes,
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: because I don't get to see it. I get to
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: see it when you win, I get to see all
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: that everyone you know, giving praise all it sounds great
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: and everything. That's fun. Yeah, you're winning football games. Put
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: the cameras in there, put out a good scenario, fantastic.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: But when you're losing, I don't know what it looks like.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: All I have to judge off of is what I
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: see on the field, and right now, what I see
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: on the field is an offense that doesn't know who
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: they are. I see a defense that gives up way
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: too many points, and a special teams that's pretty good.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Like that's that's what I have to go off of
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: because I don't get the access when you lose.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: This is the most important week of Liam Cohen's first
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: year as a head coach because how they respond to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this collapse and go into this Chargers game, and honestly, Pete,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you know how talented the Chargers are. I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: mean in Austin. I mean it's a good team. They're
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: they're competing for the AFCs.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: If you can't rush the panzer against that offensive line,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: then you gotta at home.
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: Then you got major problems. So they're banged up across
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: the board.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: There's every incentive to go out and perform well this
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: week and bounce back and have the right approach this
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: week because this is two playoff caliber, you know, two
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: playoff teams right now in the standing. So we'll see
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: can Liam Cohen get him off the deck and get
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: him back playing again.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: And this is gonna, I think, speak a lot on
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: coaching and getting his guys ready, because I'm gonna be honest,
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: The whole narrative the entire week from every player in
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: that locker room was Yeah, it's Houston, but you know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: like we're not getting We're not gonna get bogged down
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: with like it's a rivalry. We're not gonna get bogged
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: down with like the emotion of the game. They every
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: player sounded like they're just treating like another game. What
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: they took your quarterback out last year. This this they
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: beat the.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Hell out of this franchise for fifteen years.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: Exactly Like, I don't know what more incentive you need
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: to go And I get maybe you're just trying to
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: sound good for the microphone. Maybe it's different behind the scenes.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Once again, I didn't see it behind the scenes, so
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: maybe it is. But just going on off of what
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: I based off of in terms of every player interview
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: is like, yeah, that's just another game.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Well no it's not.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: It's against the Houston Texans who took out your quarterback
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: last year, who didn't really apologize for it, who just
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: kept on doing their thing. You play player then the.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: Most important week for him and everything. Yeah, I would
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: tend to agree with you, guys. And maybe that's what
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: this first solve A was send it out there. This
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: is his first first message to the team. I'm going
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: to put it out there in public. You are on notice.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Now when I get in behind closed doors, i'll tell
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: you the exact reason why I said it.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Because you are on notice.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're going to change the way we play
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: on defense. We're going to get to the We're going
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: to get to the quarterback they don't have their number
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: one left tackles. As a result, they moved their number
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: one right tackle to the left tackle. Now they don't
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: have the number two left tackle, and they have all
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: kinds of missions protective the quarterback. So you better get
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: him on the ground. And if you don't, and.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: We're going to start making changes where we put people
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: in that line.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: You see how it all goes down this week. We've
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: got plenty ahead. Let's come back and keep it real.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Was that a first Okay? Okay, up until right now.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: They faked it. We take it. We got through it,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: like Austin did with his girlfriend.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: He don't don't quit that.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: That sounds way worse than it was. Man, that sounds
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: way worse.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Than it was.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Didn't mean that. That's like who he was. I didn't show.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: I got some of the chamber. Don't worry about it, man,
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: we can go back and forth next break. It's all good.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: You don't have, you don't have. You didn't show who
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: you were. I feel bad.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: Did you want to see who it was? After that
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: lost Pete me?
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: You you showed your son when you cursed in front
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: of him.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I did, mister Duffy's Wings pulled the game after the game.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: He has no choice to see every day.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Sorry game learning more about Austin Lane by the moment,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and this is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: I think, you know, we'll open up that window this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: week to get him going, you know, get him practicing
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: a little bit here this week and see what that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: looks like Wednesday Thursday, specifically to see how he's feeling,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: see how he's looking. I know he's very eager to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: get out there and compete and play and make an
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: impact on our offense like he was doing before he
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: got banged up. So, you know, trying not to put
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: a ton of huge expectations on him, you know, different pressures.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: It's more so just hey, let's get you out there
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: and get practicing again, get catching the ball from the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: quarterback again.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Seam Cohen, Jaguars head coach today discussing tight end Britain Strange.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: They're going to open the window this week and he
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: could be back out there this Sunday against the LA Chargers.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: That would be a boon for this offense. Looking for
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: some consistency and some pass catching ability and some run
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: blocking all the above. If they could get him back.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with Brian Thomas Junior this week
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  Speaker 1: as well. He missed last week's game. Welcome back in
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  Speaker 1: this Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadwick Austin Lane here in
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville from the middle of Electric Center at the Undie Studios,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco down in South Florida, and Austin has been just.
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  Speaker 5: Gotta be yourself, squirming all break It's got to be yourself, man.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have the luxury to wear Hurley shirts like
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  Speaker 5: you do. Man, I have to wear this Jaguars polo
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  Speaker 5: shirt and show up to my business. You're not in
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  Speaker 5: a Hurley shirt like you're in a Blink one A
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  Speaker 5: two cover band at a hospice Squint Squint one A two.
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  Speaker 5: I guess we can call you. It's all good man.
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  Speaker 6: These these are comfortable, by the way, That's why, Yes,
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  Speaker 6: he's getting all mad.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't mean you were finking it. Show who you are.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know, I appreciate your Pete. That's an
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  Speaker 4: all timer right.
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  Speaker 3: There, but it did come out.
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  Speaker 5: I may have typed in your address on my ways
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  Speaker 5: after just to see how far away you were if
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  Speaker 5: it was.
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  Speaker 3: Worth thinking that is she still in town too?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, she's not listening to the show though.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I would hope that's what you think.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe she is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Then then she may not be home when I get back.
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  Speaker 1: Which is getting the real Austin tonight. Uh, time for
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  Speaker 1: keeping it real, spiking up. Yeah, presented by nobody again.
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  Speaker 3: Seasons half way over and we still have presented by nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Eight games left, yeah, or maybe nine or twelve?
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  Speaker 3: Lockdown nobody else?
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  Speaker 5: Man, not quite.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the quarterback we mentioned Britain Stranger. That
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  Speaker 1: would be a helpful thing for the soft certainly for
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence if he can get back the numbers in
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  Speaker 1: the game for Trevor thirteen to twenty three, passing one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards, touchdown, interception, seventy four point
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  Speaker 1: two rating, the last drive of the game, sacked for nine,
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  Speaker 1: scrambled for twenty one, passed to Washington for twelve at
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  Speaker 1: the Houston forty three. It would have set up about
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  Speaker 1: a sixty one yarder, but the Adoga penalty for a
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  Speaker 1: legal use of hands negated it. With seven seconds left,
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  Speaker 1: final place sacked fumble. Hey, he executed the throw and
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  Speaker 1: put him in a position for a long field goal.
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  Speaker 1: Never a gimme on those. But and there's also earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the game where they didn't execute on offense and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't unleash some throws down the field that he
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  Speaker 1: in hindsight, probably should have. So let's keep it real
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  Speaker 1: about the quarterback right now. How are you feeling about
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  Speaker 1: him and this offense moving forward? Let's start with this
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  Speaker 1: season before we go long term.
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  Speaker 4: How about that go Ahid Pete.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I've defended him a lot, and I got guys
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  Speaker 3: that I work with that just destroy him on a
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  Speaker 3: regular basis, And and they.
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  Speaker 6: Don't think he's worth the money, worth being a guy
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  Speaker 6: that can put the game on his shoulders. And I've
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  Speaker 6: defended him against that. Well, it's hard to defend him anymore.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we had the Urban Meyer year. You could
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  Speaker 6: defend him for that. You had the injuries, you could
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  Speaker 6: defend him for that.
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  Speaker 3: He had the Doug Peterson horizontal offense, you could defend
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  Speaker 3: him for that. But he's got an offensive mind in
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  Speaker 3: Liam Kohne who knows what to do with quarterbacks. And
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  Speaker 3: from what I've been told he Trevor handles every bit
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  Speaker 3: of it. He's great with the offense. He knows the offense.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't you know, there's a perception out there that
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  Speaker 6: he doesn't work as hard as all other quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: That's not true. But something happens from point A to
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  Speaker 3: point B that something short circuits the play call.
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  Speaker 6: Come then the play call always lasts way too long.
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  Speaker 6: He's too slow at the lone of scrimmage. There's always guys.
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  Speaker 6: He's lining them up and trying to change a play
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  Speaker 6: and all that. But more than that, little things, and
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  Speaker 6: we'll use the travel play. Trammel is on a cross
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  Speaker 6: against Stinglo, who's one of the best corners in the league,
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  Speaker 6: and he actually has a beat. You've got to put
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  Speaker 6: that ball either on the far away where he has
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  Speaker 6: to go get it to the sideline, or to his
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  Speaker 6: right where he could just catch it and keep running.
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  Speaker 3: He did neither. He put it behind him to the
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  Speaker 3: left and allowed Stingling to make a play on him.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the little things.
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  Speaker 6: And then you see him throw a shot to myers
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  Speaker 6: for a first down that most quarterbacks, a lot of
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  Speaker 6: quarterbacks can't even throw that ball.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's the maddening part of Trevor Lawrence. He
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  Speaker 3: can he teases the.
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  Speaker 6: Hell out of you, and then he makes some of
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  Speaker 6: the worst decisions. And I think his pocket presence has
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  Speaker 6: gotten worse, and now it's in fairst to him.
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  Speaker 3: He got hit, he got beat up a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: They aren't protecting him very well. But at times he
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't have that feel in the pocket. So from
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  Speaker 3: the time the plague gets in, he knows the play,
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  Speaker 3: he knows what to do, and he doesn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: Just like on that zone read. The zone read is
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  Speaker 3: it's clear as day hand the ball off if they
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  Speaker 3: doesn't crash, pull it. If he crashed, and if you
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  Speaker 3: watch it on a tape, he could run for he
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  Speaker 3: might have run for a touchdown. Don't do it.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, Trevor Lawrence is the biggest hot button
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  Speaker 5: topic amongst all Jaguars fans. As my mentions on Twitter,
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  Speaker 5: I have seen it for the past couple months or so.
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  Speaker 5: But here's the people that can't really grasp or comprehend it.
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  Speaker 5: It's that you can't be on the fence with this.
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  Speaker 5: Either he's a franchise quarterback or either he's like the
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  Speaker 5: worst thing never happened to organization like no one's in
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  Speaker 5: the middle. Two things can be true here. Did Trevor
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  Speaker 5: Lawrence play a bad game yesterday? Absolutely? Does offensive line
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  Speaker 5: help them out? No, they didn't. Was there some drop balls? Yes?
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  Speaker 5: And that's been the story this year. I feel like
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  Speaker 5: of Trevor's career, it's been Okay, well you have drop balls,
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  Speaker 5: will you have injuries? Well, your offensive line, well, you're
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  Speaker 5: defense not helping you out. Those things can all be true.
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  Speaker 5: But at the base of it is Trevor Lawrence playing
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  Speaker 5: good right now? And the answer is no, he's not.
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  Speaker 5: So both things can be true. And listen a couple
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  Speaker 5: segments ago, I'm sitting here saying, run the football, Run
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  Speaker 5: the football, run the football. How many teams with franchise
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks making top five money do we have to go?
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  Speaker 5: All right, run the football. Let's take the ball out
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  Speaker 5: of our quarterback's hands. That's the conversation right now with
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  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence. That doesn't sound too good. That to me,
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  Speaker 5: doesn't really sound like a franchise quarterback. That sounds more
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  Speaker 5: like a game manager, where it's like, okay, you know,
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  Speaker 5: let's go up a little bit and then when it
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  Speaker 5: comes time to win the game. We'll take the balldy hands.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want Trevor to be a game manager. I
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  Speaker 5: want him to be a gunslinger because we've seen the good,
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  Speaker 5: we've seen the great throws, even this year. The problem
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  Speaker 5: is that we don't seem enough. And it's a roller
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  Speaker 5: coaster of up and down. So when we see that,
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  Speaker 5: then we have to revert to Okay, well we can't
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  Speaker 5: see any more of the bad hand the ball off
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  Speaker 5: and that's where we're at right now. But once again,
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  Speaker 5: both things can be true. Trevor can be playing bad
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  Speaker 5: and the team can't help him around them.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean, you got to take the contract out
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  Speaker 6: of the equation if you're gonna have VO I mean
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  Speaker 6: why they rushed to do it as a whole other issue.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't have to. They did. They can't get out
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  Speaker 3: from underneath it. They're stuck with them for a year
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  Speaker 3: at least, and so take that out of the equation.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I would do with them this week? JP?
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  Speaker 5: What's that?
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  Speaker 3: I go get the old Chargers tape out.
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  Speaker 6: The last time the Chargers were in Jacksonville, Okay, and
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  Speaker 6: when was that?
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  Speaker 4: It was the wild Card playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: Four picks and I get that second and half out
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  Speaker 1: there we go second half, and.
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  Speaker 3: I'd say, here you go, this is who you can be,
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  Speaker 3: This is who you were that night. It was a
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  Speaker 3: magical night for you. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't The defense was bad that night. It was
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  Speaker 6: a magical night for him. Has it been magical in
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  Speaker 6: any point since then? It hadn't been.
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  Speaker 3: No, Well, that's the time you got to start proving
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  Speaker 3: that you're that guy, the guy you know there the contract. Look,
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  Speaker 3: because we got other quarterbacks in this league.
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  Speaker 6: Kyler Murray getting basically benched makes that kind of money
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  Speaker 6: to you have all these you have these toua So
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  Speaker 6: you have these questionable quarterback contracts where you're almost damned
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  Speaker 6: if you do and damned if you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Well, right now they're damned they did because they're they're
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  Speaker 3: found by it.
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  Speaker 6: And so it's up to him to prove that they're
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  Speaker 6: not damned that they did. Go out and play. Go
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  Speaker 6: out and play. I think he plays tight, I think,
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  Speaker 6: and he wasn't always like that. Something happened to change that.
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  Speaker 3: He needs to go out and play free and loose
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  Speaker 3: and turn it loose and take the second level throw
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  Speaker 3: and take the shot in the middle of the field
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  Speaker 3: and be you know, those are the ones if he
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  Speaker 3: if he's taking a shot in the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: field and a guy jumps the ball, makes a great
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  Speaker 3: play to get an interception, you're okay, Okay, the guy
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  Speaker 3: made a great play, But he took the shot in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of field.
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  Speaker 6: Whereas if you look at him in the end zone
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  Speaker 6: and he throws these dumb like okay, in the screen
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  Speaker 6: pass yesterday, what.
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  Speaker 3: The hell was that?
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  Speaker 5: But Pete so right, remember that it was a volleyball serve. No,
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  Speaker 5: I know what you're saying, But Pete, let me ask
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  Speaker 5: you this. Then you say, like he's playing he's playing timody,
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  Speaker 5: he's playing tense. I thought this suit would be the
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  Speaker 5: defining year of Trevor Lawrence because he's getting the coach
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  Speaker 5: and Liam Coln that was gonna let him kind of
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  Speaker 5: turn it loose. At least that's what I thought. That's
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  Speaker 5: when I saw a Baker mayfield where it seemed like
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  Speaker 5: Trevor was a system quarterback under Doug Peterson. It seem
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  Speaker 5: like Doug Peterson kind of had to take him by
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  Speaker 5: the hand a little bit and tell him, cause you
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  Speaker 5: gotta throw over here, then throw over there. I feel
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  Speaker 5: like Liam Cohen's kind of letting him be like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you have a couple of reads here, do what you
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  Speaker 5: feel his best, and he's not doing that, so they.
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  Speaker 3: Agree with you. So that he was he must blaming
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  Speaker 3: the offense, not blaming him.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, And so my people, what I'm saying is
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  Speaker 5: if he can't turn it loose with this offense, with
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  Speaker 5: this head coach and everything, despite who you're throwing to
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  Speaker 5: and despite the drops and everything, but if you're looking
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  Speaker 5: Timid in the pocket, is it not even a skin?
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  Speaker 5: Is this mor Son? This is who Trevor is well?
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  Speaker 6: And that's that's what he has to prove to people
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  Speaker 6: over there and prove this team over the next eight
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  Speaker 6: games if he doesn't turn it loose. And by that
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  Speaker 6: I mean the checkdown. We've talked about this all the time.
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  Speaker 6: We talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: He takes the checkdown where he can throw to the
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  Speaker 3: next level if he takes the chance. And so there
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  Speaker 3: was a play the other day, the other yesterday where
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  Speaker 3: Tim Patrick was on an inbreaker and he didn't throw it. Now,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been a yet to make that throw.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good throw, you gotta make it the but
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  Speaker 3: he didn't throw it. Those are the throws you gotta throw.
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  Speaker 6: He needs to put the tape on from the Chargers
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  Speaker 6: game and look at that and say, look at what
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  Speaker 6: he did.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm looking at the game book from that Chargers
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  Speaker 1: game twenty twenty three wild card playoff after the twenty
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  Speaker 1: two season. Four touchdown passes in that game for Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: after the four picks by the way, Evan Ingram mister reliable, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk mister reliable, Zay Jones, who had a level
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  Speaker 1: of reliability on the field, and Marvin Jones, who was
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  Speaker 1: the ultimate like catch and go down guy, like he
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  Speaker 1: was confident that those guys were where they were going
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, in the that's not exactly like a who's who
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  Speaker 6: of wide receivers.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be.
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  Speaker 1: That's the point, Pete. They don't have to be five
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  Speaker 1: star blue chip players all around them. They need to
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  Speaker 1: run the right routes and catch the football. And those
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  Speaker 1: guys ran the right routes and caught the football in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 6: Right, And does he right now what he has to
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  Speaker 6: throw to Is it really that good?
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  Speaker 3: No, But you could find a way to make it
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  Speaker 3: work and you can.
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  Speaker 6: Take because, like I said, Patrick, he's not a great
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  Speaker 6: receiver now, I mean he never was a great receiver,
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  Speaker 6: but now he's older.
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  Speaker 3: But he was open. You got to throw that.
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  Speaker 1: You have to throw it and make sure.
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  Speaker 6: If I if I were coaching him this week, I
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  Speaker 6: put that tape on, I'd watch it.
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  Speaker 3: I say, you need to turn it loose.
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  Speaker 6: It's almost like they've preached into his mind that he
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  Speaker 6: can't turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 3: Where he ends up turning it over anyways, So turn
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  Speaker 3: it loose. Throw the damn ball, get it out of
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  Speaker 3: your hands. Take the second level shot.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't don't be a game manager, like, don't man
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  Speaker 5: like you're We've seen throws him this year, the Brian
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  Speaker 5: Thomas junior throw against the Chiefs, Like we've seen him
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  Speaker 5: make throws that. Only four or five quarterbacks in this
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  Speaker 5: league can make.
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  Speaker 1: More of that. Please, yes, please, there you have it,
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  Speaker 1: keeping the loose, keeping it real. We should just call
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  Speaker 1: it the turn it loose sem.
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  Speaker 3: Next week. If you don't turn it loose, will obviouly
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  Speaker 3: sit near saying wonder if people will be wondering when
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  Speaker 3: it's time to turn in loose?
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow, not me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying people.
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  Speaker 4: People out there.
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  Speaker 1: People say, people say a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: You can't get rid of them.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, you cannot get rid of them.
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  Speaker 1: about that one postseason matchup, the AFC Wildcard Playoff game
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  Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty two season. It was the last
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  Speaker 1: meeting between the teams. The third largest comeback in playoff history.
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  Speaker 1: And it's time now for fan questions. And you can
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  Speaker 1: only imagine, well, I mean, I guess you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to only imagine. You can look at your own Twitter page. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure what you had to say was hilarious. Now
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  Speaker 1: you're back your back, Pete.
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  Speaker 3: Why why I've seen him today? By the way, it's
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  Speaker 3: been nasty.
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  Speaker 4: I'm huge.
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  Speaker 1: What you would expect when you blow a nineteen point
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  Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter. Yeah, here's here's the best
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  Speaker 1: Great teams will themselves to a win. Which player is
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  Speaker 1: going to step up and create the juice?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, well the quarterback first and foremost, but it
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: also you know where juice comes from when you get
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: a sack too, Yeah yeah, yeah, And they don't get sacks.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: So that's part of the reason they'll how much juice.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: If you're a defense that gets sacks, you get a
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: ton of juice.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: You know, when when Liam Cohen first got the Jacksville
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: asked him how his like, how is he able to
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: rally his offense when they lose Godwin and Evans for
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: an extended period of time. You lose two of your
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: captains on offense down Tampa. Yeah, down in Tampa, and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: they still were able to have some success. Baker maythicile
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: play at a pretty high level still, and he simply said,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: because we had the leaders in the locker room. To
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: willis to those victories, you know, because a lot of
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: those guys had played with Tom Brady and that Super
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: Bowl run. So when you look at okay, if it's
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: not going good, who are the guys that can really
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: take the team by their you know, then that can
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: just say follow me, let's go. I can't make.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: A dude in Baker who will grab you by the
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: neck and take you.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have worfs. You have guys in that Tampa
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: Bay defense, like you have a bunch of guys. I
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: don't know who the guys, right now on the Jacksonville Jaguars,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Like no, I want to say josh ainz Allen, I
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: want to say Trevor Lawrence. But like I think, to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: be a true leader in a locker room, you have
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: to number one, you can be vocal, you can lead
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: by example, but you have to have to play to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: back it up. And right now, I don't really see
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: a lot of guys on this team like having the
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: play to back it up and say, hey, follow me,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: let's go.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 10: No, they aren't there, sweet man, man, that's what it is.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: We're still keeping it real. Yeah.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Certainly at Peter and Tracy ninety two, Why does Cohen
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: not call players to combat elite pass rush? Get the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: ball out? How much is this play called?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: I think he combats the pass rush probably more than
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: he would like to be honest with you. You know,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: you tell how many times do they throw those quick
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: little tunnel screens and stuff like that, particularly when Travis
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: Hunter was around.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: You love screens, Pete, I know you do.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: I mean I like screen I love the screen game,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but the screen game has to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: be complimented about the down by the down the field
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: game and the down the field game is non existent.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I think Brenton's Strange coming back, hopefully
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: against the Chargers, would open some things up a little
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: more in terms of in terms of the passing in
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: but also if you've got to keep him in as
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: an inline blocker. I mean, you know, the guys one
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: of the best blockers they have, so hopefully that helps
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: it out if you have to block a guy that.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: Khalil Mack or somebody from the Chargers.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: So I think getting Strange back and give you a
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: little boost not only in the past game in terms
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: of blocking, but also in the receiving game as well.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Here's one I couldn't figure out.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: I didn't know if anybody asked this question, but Milam
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: played on special teams yesterday. He played six snaps when
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: when the right guard went out, Why didn't they put
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: him in a right guard? They put Monheim in it
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: right guard.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: It's a great question.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Curious are they I wonder if they're still maybe waiting
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: for like full go, he's full.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: Go, he's up, he's on the field team.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Something's wrong there.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with that.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: That's a weird.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: Unless they're waiting working him at left tackle. To take
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: over that spot. Oh boy, really he didn't get he
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: didn't get work at left tackle in the preseason if I.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Remember correct, remember that and and so I don't know,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: you can't I mean experience, right, Yeah, he could play
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: left tackle, and you could play Milam at left guard
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: if Cleveland's not there.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: I was gonna to say too. In terms of the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: play call and everything, I think we're all set with
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: like the wildcat formation against solid defensive.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: I know you can get that. You can throw that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: in the garden.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: It worked good against the Raiders. I get it for
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: a couple of looks. But when you play an elite
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: defensive line and then your big tell is, oh, hey
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: we have a running back under center and shotgun, it's
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: probably going to be a run. I don't want to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: tip the defense anymore than I already am.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Then they can put that in the in the in
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: the receptacle over there, just try I think I think
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: that play from last.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: Week, yeah, I mean I think that the beauty of
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: having Trevor Lawrence in those situations is can he pass it?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: Can he take off and run for a touchdown? Or
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: can he hand the ball off? I think it keeps
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: defenses on their heels a little more. Good defenses on
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: their heels a little more.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: That that little inside handoff that atn made to the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: who was it Washington?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that worked? Really well?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: We're all set.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wait till the deers passing play.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: He'll throw one here.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Why you play quarterback?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: He has three career touchdown passes in the NFL.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: We'll see if they just.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Don't make him throw it back to the quarterback because
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: we don't want to se that play again.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: No, uh at duval hoops?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Was it just me?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Or did strigaut hop a few times? Give it a
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: rest with the washed vets to continue to show you
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: they are washed, are no longer productive?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: So so basically he's calling out.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: Oddba Yeah, I guess so right.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Iba has done nothing. Let's be real, he's
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: done nothing. Uh, strig out.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: When you watch the tape the other day, there's a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: couple plays and Austin you know this how we play
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: defensive end.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when a puller comes your way, you gotta take
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: that puller on and blow him up in that hole.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, too many guys, too many guys don't do it.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Business decisions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: He took on one on Sunday and he blasted that guy.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: He made a play. Yeah, I think that tells me
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: there's want to there, there's toughness there. He actually got
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: around the corner on one play and made made a
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: little rush. Maybe you start playing him more.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: Strigo I'm is pronounced it, strig goes his name.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: Literally took the words out of my mouth though, where
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: he seems like a willing player right now, like he's
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: willing to do all the dirty work. He's willing to
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: get his hands dirty. And if if you're trying to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: make some changes, if you're trying to get that spark,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: you need those types of players like Parker Washington on
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: offense who seems to be playing hard and love the
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: game of football. I get the same vibe from this
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: guy on the defensive end, Sash defensive ad line.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Any any play stand out from both the whole season?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Any anything?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Did you have a he hawked a half sack off
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Hi Tallen last week?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: Didn't he? Yeah? Yeah?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: But you have any plays where he like whips the
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: tackle and knocks the guy down and there's nothing Yeah.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I'll give you Ogoba's numbers for the season if you'd
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: like them pete twelve tackles, half a sack, two tackles
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: for loss, and three quarterback hits.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like I said, what is the problem grade though?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: J Because I think they mean come on now, you know,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: let's let let's be fair here.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: You know the other one, the other one, the part
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: of the problem on the defensive line.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: The second round pick does nothing.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: Mason Smith, I can admit when I'm wrong. Well, I
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: was wrong about him when he came out. I thought
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: he was going to be really good.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: He isn't well, and I think we're excited for this offseason. Right.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: He gets hurt a little bit, but all I heard
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: was how hard he's working, how great that he looks,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: and then nothing.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: He doesn't disengage. You know what I'm talking about. You
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: know when gets a guy, he doesn't disengage.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Three more questions that Sean thirty two fifty three. If
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: you only watch one team, can you claim to love
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: slash no ball or does a ball lover slash knower
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: have to watch any team with excitement to understand what
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: football really is?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: What the hell does that mean?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Are you a ball knower? If you only watch one
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: team or you have to be watch all the teams
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: to be a ballner.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: Pete, consider you why would you watch all the teams? Anyways?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: You understand what the question is.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 7: You do.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: There's like, there's a game on tonight the Eagles play
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: the Packers.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: Would if you're a balld lover? Do you watch that?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Of course you do?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: But are you not one? If you just happen to
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: miss it?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: In my world, you're not a ball lover.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: You're a ball You're not a ball knower, right right,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: But you have to watch every game you're a ball No,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: I do?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: I mean I think where the questions going and saying
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: like if you just watch Jaguars games, right, and then
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: that's all you watch?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Like do you know ball? And and and I think.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: This is the thing, right, I think, I think ball
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: you have to watch multiple offenses, multiple defenses to try
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: to get a baseline of what you're seeing and what's
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: good and what's bad, right like you?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: I think that's the obvious answer that makes.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Sense to And I'll be honest, there's a lot of
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: bad ball being played around the NFL too, sure, a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: lot of pre snaff penalties not just in Jacksonville. A
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: lot of a lot of mistakes. It's just it's not
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: very crisp.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Who's the crispest, most crisp whatever, best cleanest team in football?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Who's the you're asking me who the best team.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Is, or I'm asking you the cleanest team.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: The Rams are the cleanest team. Okay, the best team? Yeah,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: we'll find out. Sunday they play each other, Seattle and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: the Rams. Seattle's really good, really good.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: They get after that. You talk about a team that
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: can rush with four, they get after the quarterback.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Two more questions, Let's get through them fast. These Black Gatsby,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: if Sunday happened a week before with Gladstone, have made
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: more deals.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: They tried to make deals. From what I heard around
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: the league, they tried to make deals. They just couldn't
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: make them.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes two to tanks.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think that Raiders got anything to do with it,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: because once again, it wasn't the prettiest game either. Right, So,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: if the narrative is that you're always trying to, you know,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: build a roster, always trying to hold guys accountable, and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: we saw with Tyson Campbell, right, So like I I
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: don't think like just because they won against the Raiders,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: they kind of pulled back the reins in terms of
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: trading for people they tried to this didn't work out,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: didn't have the right capital, whatever the case may be.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: But I don't think it's not anything to do with it.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Or and here's the other part. If if they weren't
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: the number seven seed, they were one in whatever or
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: two and whatever, would they have been sellers?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: Probably maybe? Yeah, I'd probably say right.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: But who would you have sold who?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: Okay, for example, Devinnoyds could be could have been as
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: you could if you were weren't good, you would have
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: you would have got rid of him because you're not
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: going to have him probably next year unless you decide
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: to keep them.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: And for what you know he's going to be asking.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine they will.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: One more question at j Fix eighty eight made me
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: feel better about the Jaguars. Give something positive to look
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: forward to.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: This is actually my burner account because I.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Need this more than you burner account.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, I need this more than anybody too.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: Well, go watch the Chargers table when they won the playoff.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: You'll be excited about it.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: Answer with uniforms, right though, do we have the Prowlers
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: coming up again or not? Maybe not that division games
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: Division already played.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: Even if they wore the Prowler uniforms and the Chargers
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: wore the Baby Blues, it wouldn't the white Baby Blues.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: It would be second best uniform on the field, because
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: those Baby Blues are sweet Pete.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: The Jags are five and four, they're the seventh seed.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: What give us something?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: Positive?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: They're the seventh seed. There's positive and the schedule is favorable.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: You two hour Titans. You got two with the Titans,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: you got two with the Colts. You have the Jets,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: who are terrible.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: The Jets won a game yesterday with the quarter with
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: receivers catching passes for a grand total of seven yards,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: I think, And so you could win.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: The games are winnable. Can't you see this though? Could
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: you see them beating the Chargers and the Cardinals and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: also losing to the Chargers and the Cardinals. I mean,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: that's who they are.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, it sounds like somebody wants to lock it in.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not locking it in.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: By the way, the Broncos game, we looked at that,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: we circled that as a brutal, tough game.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: That might not be.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I mean it's December week before in Denver.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: I think it's tough.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: It's tough, but that offense does nothing true true.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: So you're looking at the eleven wins, Pete, so you're
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: looking at no.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say eleven right now. They could lose two
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: games to the Titans for the I mean they could.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: What what about the team gives you optimism?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: JP?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: If you were on a good run there you were
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: cooking there for a sect in the kitchen in the
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: seventh seed, there's eight games. Have to figure something.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Good right now? What's good right now? What is good? Passing? Game?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: Not good bro game?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: I go back to the punt returning.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: And you know what, if you have to look at
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: special teams and say that's the something that's good, then
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: you got problems.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: There's your fan questions for the night. Thanks for the submissions.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: There were a lot we left on the floor, just
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: like Pete left that segment on the floor.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I killed that segment because I was keeping it real.
• 1:29:21
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  Speaker 5: Washington field it at the twenty nine yard line, gets
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  Speaker 1: Five forty yard line ru for Parker Washington. Forty five
• 1:30:01
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  Speaker 1: the block and fenced at two seventy three yard hunt
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  Speaker 1: return touchdown for Parker Washington, the third in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Second of the season. Opened a seventeen to nothing lead,
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  Speaker 1: but the Jags blew it. They had a nineteen point
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  Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter and lost the football game,
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  Speaker 1: largest blown lead in franchise history. And welcome back, Saguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco and Austin Lane. We've
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  Speaker 1: dissected it all tonight except week ten in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League, and let's go round the NFL and four
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  Speaker 1: teams on a bi Bengals, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans Thursday, Broncos
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  Speaker 1: over the Raiders. We mentioned that game ten to having
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  Speaker 1: the Colts in Germany over the Falcons. Won a game
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  Speaker 1: for Jonathan Taylor, and the Colts are on a roll
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  Speaker 1: right now, and they don't want the bye week at all.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think, Pete.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they lost the week before to Pittsburgh, and the
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  Speaker 6: reason they lost to Pittsburgh the week before was because
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  Speaker 6: they only gave the ball to Jonathan Taylor four times
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  Speaker 6: on the first three drives.
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  Speaker 3: Give him the damn ball. They gave the ball and
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  Speaker 3: he had a great.
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  Speaker 5: Day, great day.
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  Speaker 1: And then we'll see how sustainable it is after their
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  Speaker 1: bye week.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Hill, by the way, he's still the second best tailor. Whoever,
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  Speaker 3: we're number twenty eighth the way.
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  Speaker 1: See I see what you did there, Pete. Yeah. The
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  Speaker 1: Saints over the Panthers seventeen to seven, the Bears over
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  Speaker 1: the Giants, Little snow Globe action, Austin and Chicago.
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  Speaker 5: Little snow globe accident and Brian Dabele. Actually I think
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  Speaker 5: I released to Eric got whacked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you guys.
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  Speaker 5: At surprised about that. I felt like they had their
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  Speaker 5: quarterback now in Jackson Dart. Why not set him up
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  Speaker 5: for success? Keeping that dable offense for another year and two?
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  Speaker 1: You can do well.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with you on that. But they blew
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  Speaker 3: four leads in the fourth quarter, and he's exposed him
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  Speaker 3: to some really strange situations like taking shots and running
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  Speaker 3: them when they're in blowouts, and so I think that
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  Speaker 3: had a lot to do with it, to be honest
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 1: Dolphins beat the Bills thirty to thirteen. What the hell
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  Speaker 1: happened down there?
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  Speaker 5: Pete?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I asked, guys, and you played in the
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  Speaker 3: league to Austin, how does that happen? You beat the
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  Speaker 3: Chiefs and then you go on the road play Miami
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  Speaker 3: and you're just lifeless?
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  Speaker 5: How does that happen any given Sunday, Pete, any given Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what it is.
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  Speaker 6: You look around and you go, oh, no, we're in
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  Speaker 6: a game and they can't get out from underneath it.
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  Speaker 6: That's what that is.
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  Speaker 1: Ravens have found their sea legs twenty seven nineteen over
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings. Are the Ravens They're real, right, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they're back.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they're going to win a division because their schedule
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  Speaker 3: is favorable. And does anybody really think the Steelers are
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  Speaker 3: very good?
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  Speaker 1: True?
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  Speaker 4: No, they're fading.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretend us Jets over the Browns twenty seven to twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Patriots over the Buccaneers twenty eight to twenty three, and
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are winning games In the quarterback play Drake.
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  Speaker 3: That game run Austin. They're gonna go in a ten
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  Speaker 3: game winning streak.
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  Speaker 4: You got talk abt offensive lines.
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  Speaker 5: Drake Man I think is the second highest sacked quarterback
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: An MVP conversation doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks over the Cardinals forty four to twenty two, Rams
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  Speaker 1: over the Niners forty two to twenty six. Setting up
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  Speaker 1: that Ram Seahawks game coming up next, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a bloodbath.
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  Speaker 3: Well think about it.
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  Speaker 6: Both of them throw the ball down the field, which
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  Speaker 6: most teams don't do anymore. You know, Darnold's average went
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  Speaker 6: in a Sunday average in nine point six per attempt,
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  Speaker 6: and both of them could rush the passer.
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  Speaker 3: They got good, fierce defensive lines. That's what do you
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  Speaker 3: want in this league.
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  Speaker 6: You want to be able to throw the ball and
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  Speaker 6: get the big plays and knock the other guys down.
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  Speaker 3: Guy down when.
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  Speaker 6: He so he can't throw the ball and get big plays.
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  Speaker 6: And they can both do that. They are the two
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  Speaker 6: best teams in the league right now, with.
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  Speaker 1: One of them winning the Super Bowl. Is one of
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  Speaker 1: those teams gonna win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, though, I think Seattle's better
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  Speaker 6: right now. But in the end, would you rather have
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  Speaker 6: Stafford over Darnold.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's healthy, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, salty vett.
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  Speaker 1: He's thrown for what four touchdowns or more? And how
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  Speaker 1: many games down in a row, like five or.
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  Speaker 3: Something, and and he's won a Super Bowl already. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 3: so you know he's in a big moment. He's gonna
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  Speaker 3: show off.
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  Speaker 4: He gets it.
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  Speaker 1: Lions are going to show up too. Seems like forty
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  Speaker 1: four to twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: Over the They call it change. They got rid of
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  Speaker 3: old Jaguars White Lightning, Johnny Lightning, Johnny Morton took away
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  Speaker 3: his play. That's what his nickname was. When he was
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  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 6: White, and they took away his play calling duties and
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  Speaker 6: Dan Campbell took it over and they look like a
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  Speaker 6: better offense.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get to scout the Chargers last night and
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  Speaker 1: they're twenty five to ten win over the Steelers Austin I.
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  Speaker 5: Did, Yeah. I mean you see a tight end right
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  Speaker 5: now that plays like Antonio Gates. You see Lad McConkie
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  Speaker 5: is going to cause problems if he's in the slot.
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  Speaker 5: You see Keenan Allen still depend them only then have
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  Speaker 5: good game last night, but like he stilled the Pennama
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  Speaker 5: receiver and they can run the football every once in
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  Speaker 5: a while with uh the die down.
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  Speaker 3: So and they played good defense on that. That was
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  Speaker 3: the thing that stood out to me was they got
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  Speaker 3: after the quarterback and played good deep.
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  Speaker 5: They're getting better on defense that it was kind of
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  Speaker 5: their achilles heel for the first part of the season.
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  Speaker 5: They seem to figure some stuff out. Now Khalil Max
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  Speaker 5: back getting healthier, so it'll be a challenge for the
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  Speaker 5: jug Wars.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lock anything in doors off the hinges
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  Speaker 4: until doors off the hinges till further.
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  Speaker 3: Notice, there there will be no lock zero. Okay, team
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  Speaker 3: twenty six points in the fourth quarter. Gonna lock that day, No.
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  Speaker 1: Way, not right now. It's a home game, Pete, it
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  Speaker 1: is a home.
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  Speaker 5: It's a it's a home.
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  Speaker 3: And anything you have to watching that.
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  Speaker 1: Craft Monday Night Football. It's a massive game in the
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  Speaker 1: NFC and a battle of first place teams. Jalen Hurts,
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  Speaker 1: Saquon Parkley and the Philadelphia Eagles at six and two,
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  Speaker 1: visit Jordan Love and the five two and one Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Who you got it? Lambeau Field at the.
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  Speaker 5: I'm taking the team that knows who they are a
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  Speaker 5: little more of than another team.
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  Speaker 4: I'm taking the Eagles.
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  Speaker 5: I think Matt Lafleur with Jordan Love, they don't really
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  Speaker 5: know what they want to do sometimes with their wide receivers.
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  Speaker 5: It's more of the Josh Jacobs show. I think they're
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  Speaker 5: confuser now what they're going to do on offense. Go
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  Speaker 5: and give me the Eagles who are gonna pound the
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  Speaker 5: rock with Saquon, and then give Devonte Smith and A. J.
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  Speaker 4: Brown some love.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna think the package I think this is they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna put. It's just like last week they looked ahead,
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  Speaker 3: lost the game. They put so much into this and
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  Speaker 3: remember they're the team that called, and they're the ones
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  Speaker 3: who wanted the tush push band.
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  Speaker 6: They put the proposal before everybody. They're also bitter about
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  Speaker 6: the fumble in the playoff game, remember that one on
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  Speaker 6: the opening kickoff when they recovered it and they said, no,
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  Speaker 6: they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: They they're bitter. They don't like the Eagles, and I
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  Speaker 3: think they're gonna find a way to win the game.
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  Speaker 3: Micah Parsons has a big day tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Ooh, I like that. A big night tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, big night tonight, big game tonight, big game tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever he's gonna play. Well, that's the prediction from Pete.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lock certain, Pete Prisco, Austin Lane, I'm JP
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  Speaker 1: Shadwick and yeah the Jags are five and four and
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  Speaker 1: now they're back home next week. LA Chargers salute the
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  Speaker 1: service game one o'clock kickoff time. Spiroditas and Adam Rchalletta
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  Speaker 1: and Aditi Kinkawala, the Jaguars TV network folks are back
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  Speaker 1: for a big ball game. Should be a good one.
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  Speaker 5: I'm hoping you're right back in.
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  Speaker 3: You go win it. You got good feelings all over again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's loose.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor play loose.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be a tough game, and worst comes the worst.
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  Speaker 5: If it is a bad game for the Jaguars, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: To the fair, right next dog, so I can just
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  Speaker 4: walk on and go to the fray. That would be.
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  Speaker 1: For that game. I might no funnel cakes for it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go funnel cakes for me. It's Pete Prisco, Austin Lane.
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  Speaker 1: I'm JP Shaddick. Thanks to our entire crew, Joe fortuneight O,
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  Speaker 1: Brent Reaver, and thanks to you for watching and listening.
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars Happy Hour