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The Ever Changing Goal Posts of Brett Sutton and the "Fact Checkers" · The Slippery Slope

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  Hi. I'm Jay felon, and thank you for
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  listening to the slippery slope. So I have to talk about this.
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  This article that came through from.
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  Well it's Checkmate. So these are the people who are,
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  you know, they keep a track of what's true?
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  And what's not. Apparently, they check the
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  misinformation. There, the fact Checkers, they
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  come out here in Australia. So this headline here says
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  conspiracists have published a Frank admission Bye, bye.
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  Bret Sutton about boosters, but here's what he really said, this
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  is what they say, on comes out, on ABC News.
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  So Checkmate, it is a Weekly Newsletter from rmit fact, lab,
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  which Recaps the latest in the world of fact, checking and
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  misinformation drawing on the work of deck back lab and its
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  sister organization. Rmit are Mighty ABC, fact, check
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  now, If you live here in Australia, you'll know that
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  there's, you know, ABC aren't always the best at checking the
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  facts. They have a very skewed point of
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  view. Sometimes very left-leaning
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  anyway. So this this article that, well,
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  this fact check that they're going to go through this week.
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  They supposedly debunk social media posts, suggesting
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  Victoria's Chief Health officer spilled the beans by admitting
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  covid-19 in vaccines were never effective.
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  So they go on to say that their claim is this no Britt Sutton,
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  did not admit. That covid-19 vaccines never
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  worked. So he didn't admit it, that's
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  not say that it's not true, he just didn't admit it.
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  So posts quoting Victoria's Chief Health officer, Brent
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  sudden are being shared widely on social media.
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  With users, suggesting they prove what was long suspected
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  that covid-19 vaccines never? It on Instagram and anti lock
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  down group juxtaposed to videos of the senior bureaucrat
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  delivering. Seemingly contradictory
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  messages, alongside a caption that said how can anyone believe
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  these Hypocrites, who's paying them to lie to us in the first
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  clip taken from a YouTube video published on in April, 20 22.
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  Professor Sutton says getting that third dose is protection
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  against getting in. Affected in the first place
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  though. These are his words.
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  Getting the third dose is protection against getting
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  protect getting infected in the first place.
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  But in the second which was taken from an August 1 media
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  conference August 1 2022. Again, Professor Sutton says,
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  despite two three, four doses of the vaccine.
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  It's not so good at preventing infection in the first place.
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  He's not really admitting that covid-19 vaccines never worked
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  in the first place but he is, he is saying that if it's not going
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  to protect you against in getting infected in the first
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  place, that is what he's saying. Okay, so the goes on inside
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  equal to say that that quote has been splashed across telegram,
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  Twitter, and various conspiracy news sites where it has been
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  framed as a direct contradiction of the lies.
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  As he told earlier and a Frank admission That vaccine simply do
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  not work. But in a statement to Checkmate,
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  a spokesman for the Victorian Department of Health labeled the
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  sharing of historical statements without context as active
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  disinformation. So goes on in here to say that
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  data and evidence around covid-19 changes as the virus
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  changes, and we have always, Flick did those changes in
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  messaging and advice? This is what the spokesman for
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  the Victorian Department of Health has said.
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  So what did Professor Sutton actually say the chief Health
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  officers? April advice was delivered when
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  the dominant strain of SARS covid to was the Omicron variant
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  be a to and before Australia had recorded and record any cases of
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  be a 4 and B, A 5, which were the dominant.
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  Eminent strains in Victoria by the time of his August media
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  conference. So during that more recent
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  conference, Professor Sutton said, the VAC switched, the
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  vaccines were not so good. Those were his word, not so good
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  at preventing infection with the be a 4 and B, A 5 strains, but
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  that they still in. This is quoting him produce a
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  bit of downward pressure on Issue aren't you glad that we
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  are all in lockdowns and that we all face all these strict and
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  harsh rules regulations facing fines.
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  You know, so that they could enforce and and mandates for
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  vaccines, that produce a bit of downward pressure on
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  transmission, a bit of downward pressure.
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  Okay, I'll continue on most critically he said, booster
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  shots offered protection against severe outcomes.
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  Amongst Rebel groups such as the elderly who stood to benefit
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  from a four-fold reduction, in your risk of dying or being
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  hospitalized. So Amino then zelman who heads
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  the allergy and clinical Immunology laboratory at Monash
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  Health. Told Checkmate that the science
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  on vaccine Effectiveness was a moving playing field that was
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  always catching up and this like I said, this is the problem
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  ammu. The playing field and yet they
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  brought in regulations mandates that made it seem like the
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  facts. All the facts were in this
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  wasn't a moving playing field that they knew everything and
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  they made they brought in regulations mandates, created
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  laws handed out fines, even through people in jail and yet,
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  then they come along and say, well you can't miss quota, so
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  you can't, you can't try and ties down to this information
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  because some move Even playing field.
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  Anyway goes on to say. So this is this Menino, venzon
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  says in April we had Omicron but most data that we had were from
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  Delta he explained that explains it all.
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  So indeed, the then most recent advice from the Australian
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  technical Advisory Group on immunization which is a Targhee
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  was that the evidence on boosters and Omicron was
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  evolved. It's all evolving.
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  That's lovely. Have the government is allowed
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  to talk about things evolving? No one else.
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  No one else can give that excuse, but the government can
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  goes on, but it suggests that despite gradual waning of
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  immunity over the months, after receiving a booster, a third do,
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  still offered some protection against symptomatic infection.
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  So, it offered some protection. That's all, and it's worth
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  remembering. In that early independent
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  studies show that two doses of moderna and Pfizer's mRNA
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  vaccines. For example, were highly
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  effective at preventing infection.
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  By some estimates, they initially offered 85 to 95%
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  protection against the original Wuhan strain and upwards of 85
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  percent against the alpha variance.
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  A target has since written that a booster dose augmented
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  protection against infection from the more severe Variant and
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  provided a substantial increase in the protective Effectiveness
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  Effectiveness against symptomatic disease, and
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  infection from, the more infectious Omicron Professor
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  than ZEM explained that the evidence showed vaccines did
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  protect against infection, especially in the first month
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  after vaccination. I'm good.
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  I'm glad I'm protected for a month.
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  Here you go. You get a month's a every
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  anyway. So, however, He said that
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  protection was never 100% in the first place.
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  Well, gee, that's not the way they sold it.
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  That's not the way they're sold at.
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  What was the ads saying? You have to get, you have to
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  get, you have to get vaccinated for for your own protection, for
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  the protection of your neighbors.
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  Apparently, when you walked out of the house, you had this
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  awesome protection around you and you you protected, everyone
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  else around you because you were well maybe for the first week or
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  two and And it gradually very quickly just whines, he also
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  says that in the variance and much better in escaping immune
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  response, he added. So Delta is very well recognized
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  by the body, immune system Omicron is not and now,
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  especially with the VA to be a 45.
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  The immune recognition is even lower of.
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  Wow, these are one smart, cookie variants.
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  Still, Professor then Zim said that Doesn't mean the vaccines
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  and boosters often no protection against infection, it just
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  offers less than it once did and this drops away faster but
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  echoing, the advice of a Targhee, the European CDC and
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  others. He told Checkmate the important
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  part is that it protects especially vulnerable risk
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  groups from severe covid. This is what I see.
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  Okay, they've gone from everyone has to get vaccinated because
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  it's giving you Take action to now.
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  Well, it's really the elderly, it's the vulnerable by.
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  They really need to do it and still not going to protect them
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  100%. I have to constantly get
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  boosters because it only gives you you know after about a
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  month. It whines considerably
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  considerably to getting back to w.
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  A professor Sutton has said his quotes that all, you know, they
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  issue is that saying that Brett Sutton did not admit that
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  Covid-19 vaccines never worked. Okay, he didn't say that they
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  never worked but the issue is that governments have been
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  pushing this mandate that you know, everyone needs to get
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  vaccinated. You're protecting everyone else.
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  You're protecting yourself where the facts seem to be that the
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  the virus itself was mutating that quickly.
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  It wasn't offering the protection that the government
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  was selling people like this Sutton were out there spruik.
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  The vaccine and the benefits of the vaccine and yet they didn't
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  know all the facts and even his very words, they can try and mix
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  it all up and sell it that no, the fact Checkers with the fact
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  Checkers, we're right. And everyone else got it wrong.
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  Well, no, he was, he's constantly moving the goalposts.
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  That's what all of these bureaucrats.
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  That's what the government is constantly done.
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  Moving the goalposts saying, well, yeah, these are the facts
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  at the time but now we know even more.
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  So we have to get another booster.
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  We have to have a different kind of vaccine, this is it's a new
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  variant. So the facts, the facts that we,
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  what we called fax back in April, they're no longer facts
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  but these are the new facts in August but what we're saying you
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  know, come December, they'll be a wall.
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  What? We thought were facts in August,
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  they're no longer facts. Then, we've got a new lot of
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  facts. They keep changing the
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  goalposts. They keep making excuses for
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  their own bungles for their own. Inability to lead to make
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  sausage decisions for their own inability to control this virus.
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  All they want to do is bring in mandates, bringing regulations,
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  bringing laws control the people as I've always said this is
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  always being about control. It's always been about how much
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  we can push the people to control them, to bring them to
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  into conforming to how we want things to go.
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  This is about Informing our society so that they get used to
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  being highly govern to be highly restricted.
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  That's what they want. Eventually, they will bring in a
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  one world government. This is about gaining control
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  over the masses. That's my opinion.
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  Thank you for listening to the slippery slope.