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Breaking News - Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen Custody Update! What Does This Mean For The Show? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today
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  Speaker 2: I'm bringing you some breaking news in the custody battle
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  Speaker 2: with Taylor Frankie Paul and her ex baby daddy and
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  Speaker 2: complication Dakota Mortenson. So you guys got You've gotten so
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  Speaker 2: many updates from us, but today they appeared in court again. Virtually,
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  Speaker 2: it's been like a monthly basis thing, and now we
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  Speaker 2: have good news for her and it keeps getting a
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  Speaker 2: little bit bit better every month. Taylor is now able
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  Speaker 2: to have she doesn't have to have supervised visits.
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  Speaker 3: She gets regular visits with her child.
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  Speaker 2: This is their shared child ever, he's two years old,
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  Speaker 2: and she said, the judge said, I'm encouraged. I think
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  Speaker 2: we're moving into the right direction for now until the
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  Speaker 2: next hearing, which is like July eighth. She the judge says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to recommend supervision be lifted. So now Taylor
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  Speaker 2: is going to be getting hurt ever every other weekend and.
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  Speaker 3: Then one week day mid week.
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  Speaker 2: That's not an overnight, but I guess she gets overnights
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  Speaker 2: during every other weekend. And then the judge said that
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  Speaker 2: I certainly think that both of them have a sense
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  Speaker 2: that they are the victims and not the perpetrators. And
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  Speaker 2: I get that the main concern of the court is
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  Speaker 2: to prevent further acts of domestic violence, and we can
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  Speaker 2: have the hope that we see the parents being in
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  Speaker 2: the same pay, in the same place, getting along.
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  Speaker 3: But now is not that time.
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  Speaker 2: So this is obviously good news, but it's just little
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  Speaker 2: by little, like I said, And it's interesting because this
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  Speaker 2: is one day after Taylor had just opened up on
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  Speaker 2: Instagram how difficult co parenting has been. She's also talked
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  Speaker 2: about different projects that, you know, we're supposed to happen
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  Speaker 2: that aren't happening, maybe like the Bachelorette. But we also
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  Speaker 2: have progress in that field with her because on Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: Taylor posted a FaceTime photo with her alleged winner, Doug Mason,
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  Speaker 2: and it's cute, like her overlay said, surprise FaceTime from
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  Speaker 2: the boys. So maybe she's alluding that there is more
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  Speaker 2: people on the FaceTime than just Doug, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: in cases of her heirs. But it's he was with
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  Speaker 2: some other Bachelorette castmates in Vegas, So I have Heather
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  Speaker 2: here to put in her two cents because it's always
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  Speaker 2: the best.
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  Speaker 4: Heather, thanks for having me, Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: Anything to elaborate on.
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  Speaker 5: Well, First of all, I think that based on our
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  Speaker 5: last update with the court system and also with our
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  Speaker 5: legal expert, it seemed like this kind of hearing was
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  Speaker 5: bound happen, right, It all seemed to kind of be
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  Speaker 5: moving in a positive way, and I positive in Tailor's favor,
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  Speaker 5: I think. And I also think that the show has
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  Speaker 5: been talked about so much with the executives out during
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  Speaker 5: upfronts and things like that, and everybody has still had
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  Speaker 5: that the door is kind of still open mentality, And
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that they would have that and have
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  Speaker 5: been so open about the possibility of the show still
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  Speaker 5: airing if they didn't think that what we saw today
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  Speaker 5: in the court system was actually possible. I think had
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  Speaker 5: she had we come into court today and there was
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  Speaker 5: a whole different scenario playing out of you know, we're
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  Speaker 5: still maintaining that the visitations have to be supervised. I
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  Speaker 5: really don't think that you're airing a TV show where
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  Speaker 5: your lead is having supervised visits with their child. So
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  Speaker 5: to me, to me, this is all like going back
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  Speaker 5: to write, you know, the possibility of the show airing
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  Speaker 5: in the summertime. If our next hearing is July eighth,
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  Speaker 5: which maybe that one will be, we can obviously get
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  Speaker 5: our legal expert on again. But I would assume that
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  Speaker 5: one is maybe to really finalize a custody situation, because again,
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  Speaker 5: this kind of still sounds temporary. She's still only getting
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  Speaker 5: every other weekend and one midday. That's not a sleepover.
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  Speaker 5: So I feel like the next hearing will probably be
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  Speaker 5: more about a finite situation when it comes to custody.
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  Speaker 5: I also thought it was interesting that the judge recommended
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  Speaker 5: them to not be posting anything about one another on
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  Speaker 5: social Okay, that is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like a given being that they can't they have
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  Speaker 2: to stay one hundred feet away from each other for
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  Speaker 2: the next three years, and they also have to continue therapy.
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  Speaker 2: This was something that the judge said, Yeah, the social
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  Speaker 2: media thing. I would just say that like that kind
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  Speaker 2: of goes hand in hand with them being like living
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  Speaker 2: separate live.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting comment to make when we're
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  Speaker 5: only I believe in the last like forty eight hours
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  Speaker 5: or so, Taylor did post a bruised arm photo that
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  Speaker 5: is up on TMZ.
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  Speaker 4: I can share that one with you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she posted on her own Instagram, Yes, and then
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  Speaker 2: they picked it up correct.
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  Speaker 5: Taylor wrote, the psychological torture damaged me way more than
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  Speaker 5: the physical, and she captioned on an Instagram story on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 5: you eventually become a shell of a human. She said,
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  Speaker 5: this is hard to share because it's hard to come
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  Speaker 5: to terms with. The caption was written over a photo
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  Speaker 5: of what appeared to be Taylor's.
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  Speaker 4: Bear arm sporting a large bruise.
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  Speaker 5: It looked like the reality star had just gotten out
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  Speaker 5: of the shower after snapping the photo.
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  Speaker 4: It's unclear when the image.
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  Speaker 2: Was taken well in that situation, like it's not directly
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  Speaker 2: it's alluding to him, but they're not talking.
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  Speaker 3: She's not talking.
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  Speaker 2: About him naming names, correct, But so it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: get like like use the law to do that when
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  Speaker 2: it's im implying something.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, But I think that it's an interesting thing
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  Speaker 5: for the judge to specifically say to not be making
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  Speaker 5: disparaging comments about one another in this you know, time
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  Speaker 5: frame moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure.
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  Speaker 5: That she's also got some people that are helping her
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  Speaker 5: in terms of, you know, what to post and what
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  Speaker 5: not to post, even though she is still being her
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  Speaker 5: very typical tailor self in her unfiltered you know commentary
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  Speaker 5: going back.
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  Speaker 2: To the.
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  Speaker 5: Going back to the Doug Mason FaceTime post that she
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  Speaker 5: shared on Sunday. To me, I'm gonna be a little
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  Speaker 5: cynical here, it all feels very timely.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's for such it. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: for show.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it's interesting to post the day before
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  Speaker 5: your court hearing again where it's positive.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I feel like.
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  Speaker 5: They're trying to create and I when I say they,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's the show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you think it's the show?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Because how do how much do we know about how
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  Speaker 5: the show is in terms of spoilers and cast members
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  Speaker 5: posting things that they're not supposed to and like they're
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  Speaker 5: just really on top of that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so this is my theory.
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  Speaker 2: Help me that, yes, they are approving these things to
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  Speaker 2: go up. But I think that Taylor and he are
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  Speaker 2: asking for the permission to do it because I feel
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  Speaker 2: like they both know will be the best for them
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  Speaker 2: for their season to air. So they I think everyone perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: but like I think that they're actually talking. And now
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  Speaker 2: the motivation behind getting back together or whatnot is debatable,
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  Speaker 2: but like I think that they are the ones that
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  Speaker 2: are like screenshot shotting and then they're like, can we
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  Speaker 2: post it?
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be more cynical in the sense that I
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  Speaker 5: don't think there's any romance happening behind the scene.
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  Speaker 3: Romance I wish I just want their to.
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  Speaker 5: Be I think it's all fake, and I think it
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  Speaker 5: is purely to drum up hype and interest for when
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  Speaker 5: they choose to drop the show. This is a huge
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  Speaker 5: win for Taylor today. So the fact I have I
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  Speaker 5: have zero doubts now in my mind that the show
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  Speaker 5: is going to air now that this has been taken
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  Speaker 5: off the table, I think the show is going to air.
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  Speaker 5: I think it will air next month, in July. I
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  Speaker 5: think maybe August, but okay, I'm gonna announce in July
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  Speaker 5: that that's gonna start airing in August, okay, and then
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  Speaker 5: I think it would take like the place that like
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  Speaker 5: perhaps Paradise would have, Okay, and then it'll wrap up
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  Speaker 5: airing well, I mean, do you think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: Hulu ABC? I think Hulu Okay, So either they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: drop it in a binge, or they can still do
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  Speaker 5: it like you know, the three first episodes, which yes,
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  Speaker 5: Hulu likes to do, and then they do the rest
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  Speaker 5: and then it'll wrap up by like mid September, where
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  Speaker 5: people like get their regular schedule programming starts again.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: This is something that I would I would actually love
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  Speaker 5: to know more about how a show.
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  Speaker 4: Makes money on the binge.
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  Speaker 5: Versus the dropping episodes sporadically, not sporadically, but intentionally like
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  Speaker 5: three and three or whatnot, because there has to be
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  Speaker 5: a reason for that, the audience retention or something.
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  Speaker 4: About it that they've realized.
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  Speaker 5: When it comes to making money, I mean, they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: do whatever is most lucrative for them, whether that's the
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  Speaker 5: three or whether that's.
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  Speaker 4: The whole season.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if the Bachelor audience will take to
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  Speaker 5: a binge.
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  Speaker 2: I would I would like to experiment, since this is
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  Speaker 2: a big experimentation right now. I think this is the
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  Speaker 2: time to experiment. So let's see. Let's see how that goes.
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  Speaker 2: If this actually.
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  Speaker 3: Happens, and I do want to Now I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: these bruise pictures.
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  Speaker 2: I I feel her on the desire to have released
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  Speaker 2: these because the whole month of March. She looked like
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  Speaker 2: it was all on her right. She was the one
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  Speaker 2: that was physical, she was the abuser, and these bruises
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  Speaker 2: show that it was a two way straight and I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't help but put it out there were her.
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  Speaker 5: I think, listen Taylor has Taylor has really come back
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  Speaker 5: at people that I've told her, especially in the month
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  Speaker 5: of May, she had a lot of people coming at
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  Speaker 5: her saying to get off the internet, stop sharing, focus
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  Speaker 5: on your kid, and her response was, it is It's.
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  Speaker 4: Mental health awareness month.
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  Speaker 5: I'm struggling, and I'm going to keep sharing because that's
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  Speaker 5: you know, if I can help one person, if it
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  Speaker 5: helps me, like I'm going to keep doing it. And
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  Speaker 5: so in a lot of ways, I appreciate Taylor's authenticity,
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  Speaker 5: Like I think in a lot of ways, the show
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  Speaker 5: the network have tried to mold her a little bit
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  Speaker 5: into something that she's not, and she has continued through
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  Speaker 5: all of this.
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  Speaker 4: Good, bad and ugly.
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  Speaker 5: She has really still tried to maintain what she is
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  Speaker 5: known for, which is doing things her way.
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  Speaker 2: At first, it seems like a mistake, and now as
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  Speaker 2: I talk to other people, she's getting more and more
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  Speaker 2: people like on her side to some you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that's the right wording.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I think people are are seeing
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  Speaker 5: both sides.
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  Speaker 4: How about seeing both sides exactly?
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  Speaker 2: That's perfectly put because I think at first when those
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  Speaker 2: videos dropped, it was just like, ah, how can I
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  Speaker 2: help but do anything but just absolutely only see that
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  Speaker 2: one side.
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  Speaker 4: Yeahah.
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  Speaker 5: So anyways, obviously we'll continue to follow this. The next
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  Speaker 5: you know thing is going to be on July eighth,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, we'll obviously keep an eye on her
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  Speaker 5: social media and how much more she keeps posting with Doug.
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  Speaker 5: But I just thought, because they've definitely been going back
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  Speaker 5: and forth in the comments too on each other's things.
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  Speaker 5: He's been posting about music that he's dropping. He just
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  Speaker 5: moved to a new city a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 5: Where do you Yeah, he moved from San Diego to
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  Speaker 5: Huntington Beach.
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  Speaker 3: You know all these things.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like he lived in La No, he always
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  Speaker 4: lived in San Diego.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, and he was a lifeguard in San Diego.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean life I don't know what's that lifeguard
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  Speaker 5: stuff is legit?
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  Speaker 3: So just struggling musician.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's like he is a lifeguard and he
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  Speaker 5: is certified and can't do that. But I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that's what's the focus. I think the focus as from
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  Speaker 5: what he has DMed me back in the past.
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  Speaker 4: It was acting and.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget guys, Heather has cat like she's been in
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  Speaker 2: the rolodex for her passing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: And then Taylor, by the way, did close on her
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  Speaker 5: first house and has been working on, you know, turning
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  Speaker 5: that into a space, and so you know, hopefully she's
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  Speaker 5: enjoying this chapter too and finding some light in it.
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  Speaker 5: I know she posted on Sunday about missing her son
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  Speaker 5: and that that's been difficult, and you know, I understand that,
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  Speaker 5: but hopefully things are on the upswinging for everybody. We
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  Speaker 5: haven't really gotten an update on Dakota and what's going
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  Speaker 5: on with him since he did the Winter Games.
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  Speaker 4: He's been pretty silent on social media.
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  Speaker 3: So he did say that he was going to take
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  Speaker 3: a step away.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, But I also did see a headline, uh, don't
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  Speaker 5: come for me that I did not really dive into this,
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  Speaker 5: but I saw something like an executive said that the
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  Speaker 5: door is open for both of them to come back
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  Speaker 5: on secret lives.
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  Speaker 4: And Mormon wives, both Taylor and Codin, both of them.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, Heather, you are just full of knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: full of knowledge like.
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  Speaker 3: He is, ramble about them forever. I gotta really brush up.
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  Speaker 5: No, I just don't have a life, Ashley, You've got
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  Speaker 5: too much going on.
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  Speaker 4: You've got a real life.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. I love your pop culture life. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: until next time, which will be very soon. I'm Ashley
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  Speaker 2: and I've been Heather. Bye bye.
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