Latest / Crime Night / 38 Stabs and Kerosene: The Double Life of the "Auntie" Who Betrayed Her Family
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, let's set the scene. It's May nineteen ninety nine, Giza,
- 0:04Speaker 1: picture the Imbaba neighborhood. It's already incredibly hot, stifling almost,
- 0:08Speaker 1: but then overlay that with this sense of sheer panic.
- 0:11Speaker 1: There's smoke, thick black smoke pouring out of an apartment building.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Sirens are just wailing everywhere, all eyes, all the chaos.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It's focused on this one seven story building in ard Aliwa.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it was complete chaos on those upper floors. Neighbors,
- 0:27Speaker 2: first responders, they see this awful smoke billowing from a
- 0:31Speaker 2: seventh floor apartment and they hear word maybe shouts that
- 0:34Speaker 2: there are kids inside, so you know, they don't hesitate.
- 0:36Speaker 2: They start breaking down the main apartment door right.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Away, and as soon as they get in they see it,
- 0:41Speaker 1: the fires and everywhere. It's concentrated, really intense. In just
- 0:43Speaker 1: one room, you can tell immediately an accelerat was used.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Then they have to break down another door, in an
- 0:49Speaker 1: inner one, and just beyond that broken doorframe they find
- 0:52Speaker 1: little head. To hear she's only three, unconscious, smoke inhalation,
- 0:55Speaker 1: barely breathing. They rush her out, trying to save her.
- 0:58Speaker 2: But then inside that burning room that's where they find
- 1:02Speaker 2: her older sister, ten year old Shahinas, and she's already
- 1:05Speaker 2: gone deceased. And this right here, this is the moment
- 1:08Speaker 2: everything flips. This isn't just some tragic fire. The firefighters,
- 1:11Speaker 2: the first police on scene, they see it instantly. Shahinas
- 1:15Speaker 2: she has multiple absolutely horrific stab wounds. And the final
- 1:20Speaker 2: detail just so chilling. There's broken knife blades sticking out
- 1:24Speaker 2: of her job.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Wo okay, So that completely changes the narrative. It's not
- 1:27Speaker 1: an accident. It's not even just say, a robbery gone wrong.
- 1:30Speaker 1: This is where our deep dive really begins. We're looking
- 1:32Speaker 1: at how someone a predator really could maintain this horrifying
- 1:36Speaker 1: secret life operating right under everyone's noses, right inside the
- 1:39Speaker 1: family unit, supposedly a place of safety exactly.
- 1:42Speaker 2: And the forensics what they found right away, it just
- 1:44Speaker 2: blew apart any idea of a you know, a typical crime.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Let's talk about the level of malice here. The medical
- 1:49Speaker 2: examiner confirmed Shahinas suffered thirty eight stab wounds thirty eight
- 1:52Speaker 2: and the fire itself deliberate poured right over her body.
- 1:56Speaker 2: They found large amounts of kerosene residue.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Thirty eight wounds on a ten year old child. That
- 2:01Speaker 1: number is it's just staggering. Did the me give any
- 2:06Speaker 1: indication of why, I mean, the pattern.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Of the injuries they did? And this is where it
- 2:09Speaker 2: gets even more disturbing if that's possible. Only eight of
- 2:12Speaker 2: those wounds were actually fatal concentrated around the neck. The
- 2:16Speaker 2: other thirty they were non fatal, superficial, many of them
- 2:20Speaker 2: to her face other parts of her body. The report
- 2:23Speaker 2: stated clearly they were inflicted while she was alive for
- 2:26Speaker 2: punishment for torture.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Okay, that detail is absolutely critical because if the motive
- 2:32Speaker 1: was just robbery, why torture a child? Yeah, and police
- 2:36Speaker 1: did confirm money was stolen, right, about three thousand Egyptian pounds.
- 2:39Speaker 2: That's right, three thousand pounds, which back in nineteen ninety
- 2:41Speaker 2: nine was a pretty significant.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Some for that family.
- 2:44Speaker 2: See, that's the immediate contradiction, isn't it. This incredibly savage
- 2:47Speaker 2: personal attack. It feels like rage, like revenge, but the
- 2:51Speaker 2: apparent motive is stealing what in the grand scheme of
- 2:53Speaker 2: violent crime, is relatively little money. It just didn't add
- 2:56Speaker 2: up for investigators.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Right, No ordinary burglar goes through through that level of
- 3:01Speaker 1: well sadistic violence. For three thousand pounds and then tries
- 3:05Speaker 1: to burn the evidence, including the body. It makes no
- 3:08Speaker 1: sense exactly.
- 3:09Speaker 2: The violence felt personal, like it was about something other
- 3:12Speaker 2: than cash, maybe silencing someone or preserving a secret. That
- 3:17Speaker 2: paradox basically forced them to scrap the stranger danger theory
- 3:20Speaker 2: almost immediately, so the.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Focus shifts inwards towards the family, to his people known
- 3:26Speaker 1: to them. How quickly did they rule out outsiders completely?
- 3:30Speaker 2: Very quickly? Logistics mostly Remember the neighbors broke down the
- 3:33Speaker 2: main door after the fire was going, but forensics went
- 3:36Speaker 2: over that initial entry point, zero signs of forced entry.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Before that, the killer didn't break in. They were let in,
- 3:42Speaker 2: plus security checks talking to people in the building. Nobody
- 3:45Speaker 2: saw any strangers entering or leaving around that critical time.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Okay, so the killer knew the family was trusted by
- 3:50Speaker 1: the children, even someone who could just knock on the
- 3:53Speaker 1: door and be welcomed.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Inside precisely, and that's when the spotlight fell squarely on aff.
- 3:58Speaker 2: She was thirty eight, she was married to the brother
- 4:00Speaker 2: of the girl's stepfather, and crucially she lived in the
- 4:03Speaker 2: same building, just two floors directly below the victim's apartment.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Wow, that close two floors. That is incredibly close proximity.
- 4:12Speaker 1: And I remember reading the mother initially defended her, said
- 4:14Speaker 1: Afaf was slows to the girls, wouldn't hurt them.
- 4:17Speaker 2: She did initially understandable, perhaps denial shock, but proximity, as
- 4:21Speaker 2: you say, creates opportunity and deception, and the physical evidence
- 4:26Speaker 2: the little things started to cut through that emotional defense
- 4:29Speaker 2: pretty fast. Investigators questioning Afaft notice something right away, a
- 4:33Speaker 2: fresh cut, maybe a scratch, clear as day on her face.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Okay, red flag number one. How did she explain that?
- 4:38Speaker 2: Dismissively claimed her own daughter, a young child scratched her
- 4:42Speaker 2: while they were playing. Plausible maybe, but convenient.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Very convenient. What else did the connector to the fire itself?
- 4:49Speaker 2: Yes, the accelerant kerosene. Police searched Afaft's apartment downstairs, and
- 4:55Speaker 2: what do they find a significant quantity of kerosene. Now,
- 4:59Speaker 2: when they add asked her about it, she completely denied it,
- 5:01Speaker 2: said she never had terracene, never used it. So now
- 5:04Speaker 2: you have the exact substance used to start the fire
- 5:07Speaker 2: sitting in her apartment and she's lying about it being there.
- 5:10Speaker 2: That's a big crack in her story.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Very big crack. So you have the scratch, the lie
- 5:14Speaker 1: about the kerosene. Circumstantially yes, but mounting. But for a
- 5:19Speaker 1: crime this horrific, they'd need something more concrete, right, something
- 5:24Speaker 1: that tied her directly to the theft. The motive they did.
- 5:27Speaker 2: And they found it by following the money trail. It
- 5:29Speaker 2: turns out, almost immediately after the fire, Afft gave her
- 5:33Speaker 2: husband some money. Said it was to help with the
- 5:35Speaker 2: business project he had going on. When the police asked
- 5:38Speaker 2: where she got this sudden cash.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Leby guests, she had an explanation ready.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Oh yes, yea. She claimed she'd just withdrawn it from
- 5:44Speaker 2: her bank account, a simple everyday transaction.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Aw But investigators check those things, don't they.
- 5:49Speaker 2: They check everything, and within hours they confirmed it. Afoff
- 5:53Speaker 2: did not have a bank account, never did. The entire
- 5:56Speaker 2: story was a fabrication, which meant the money she gave
- 5:59Speaker 2: her husband it had to be the three thousand pounds
- 6:03Speaker 2: stolen from upstairs.
- 6:04Speaker 1: That's it. The lie that brings the whole facade crashing down.
- 6:07Speaker 1: The scratch, the kerosene, now, the money.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Lie exactly face with all these contradictions one after another,
- 6:14Speaker 2: she finally broke. Aphoff confessed, confessed to murdering Shahinas, attempting
- 6:20Speaker 2: to murder Haitier, setting the fire, and stealing the money.
- 6:23Speaker 1: And this is where we uncover the secret world mentioned earlier.
- 6:26Speaker 1: This wasn't just about one desperate act. The investigation revealed
- 6:29Speaker 1: she wasn't just a relative who snapped. She had a
- 6:31Speaker 1: hidden life.
- 6:32Speaker 2: A deeply hidden life. Turns out Afoff was essentially a
- 6:36Speaker 2: career criminal, a professional thief. She had a long history
- 6:40Speaker 2: of convictions before she married into this family conviction she
- 6:42Speaker 2: had managed to completely hide from her husband, from the
- 6:44Speaker 2: whole community ever since, her entire respectable persona. It was
- 6:49Speaker 2: a carefully built.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Lie, and the murder of Shahinas it wasn't even the
- 6:53Speaker 1: first time she'd exploited her family connection in such a
- 6:55Speaker 1: terrifying way, was it.
- 6:57Speaker 2: No, there was another incident, almost a shock in its calculation.
- 7:01Speaker 2: It really shows her pattern. Previously, she had targeted her
- 7:04Speaker 2: own sister in law, invited the sister in law's children
- 7:07Speaker 2: over to her place. Then she drugged their food, used
- 7:10Speaker 2: narcotics to make sure they were completely unconscious.
- 7:13Speaker 1: She drugged children her own relatives.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Yes, while they were passed out, she took their house key,
- 7:19Speaker 2: traveled quite a distance actually, to another neighborhood called Fifteenth
- 7:22Speaker 2: of May area, let herself into their empty house using
- 7:25Speaker 2: the key and stole five thousand Egyptian pounds, then traveled
- 7:29Speaker 2: back before anyone woke up.
- 7:31Speaker 1: The level of premeditation there is just stunning, drugging kids,
- 7:35Speaker 1: traveling across town, methodical theft. It was cold, calculated criminality,
- 7:41Speaker 1: using trust as her main tool.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Absolutely betraying trust was her specialty. And get this, after
- 7:46Speaker 2: that theft, she even gave some of that stolen money
- 7:49Speaker 2: to her husband too, claimed she'd found a way to
- 7:51Speaker 2: help them out financially. It was all about propping up
- 7:53Speaker 2: this false image of herself. Protecting her secret identity was paramount.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Okay, So understanding that background, that history of deception and
- 8:01Speaker 1: calculated crime, let's walk through the final moments of Shahina's
- 8:06Speaker 1: life again. It starts with needing money, right the three
- 8:09Speaker 1: thousand pounds.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Yes, Alfaf knew this stepfather had that cash in the apartment.
- 8:14Speaker 2: She was broke. So around eleven am she goes upstairs,
- 8:17Speaker 2: knocks on the door and because it's Auntie afof someone
- 8:20Speaker 2: they know and trust, Shahinas and little Hadeir just open
- 8:23Speaker 2: the door, no fear. They let her write in.
- 8:26Speaker 1: So she's inside. How does it escalate from a visit
- 8:28Speaker 1: to violence.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Afof starts casually trying to coax the information out of Shahinas.
- 8:33Speaker 2: You know, where does your dad keep his money? That
- 8:35Speaker 2: sort of thing, But Shahina's maybe sensing something wasn't right,
- 8:38Speaker 2: or just being an honest kid, says something crucial. She
- 8:41Speaker 2: says she'll tell her mother that Afof came by asking
- 8:44Speaker 2: about the money when her mom gets home.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Ah the threat of exposure. That's the trigger, not just
- 8:49Speaker 1: getting caught stealing, but potentially having her entire secret life,
- 8:53Speaker 1: her criminal past revealed to her husband.
- 8:55Speaker 2: The family exactly that flipped the switch for Afof. It
- 8:59Speaker 2: became not about the money anymore, but about silencing the witness,
- 9:03Speaker 2: about self preservation at any cost. Her rage must have
- 9:06Speaker 2: been instantaneous. She grabbed a knife, and that's when she
- 9:09Speaker 2: started inflicting those first thirty non fatal wounds. Trying to
- 9:14Speaker 2: torture Shahinas into revealing the money's location, yes, but also
- 9:18Speaker 2: perhaps trying to punish her, to terrify her into silence
- 9:21Speaker 2: about the visit itself. But Shahina's incredibly brave stayed silent.
- 9:26Speaker 1: That silence meant to protect her family, maybe ultimately sealed
- 9:29Speaker 1: her fake because Apof couldn't risk exposure.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Correct. When Afof realized the torture wasn't working and that
- 9:35Speaker 2: Shahinas would tell her mother, she escalated to lethal force.
- 9:38Speaker 2: She started stabbing her in the neck. That first knife
- 9:40Speaker 2: actually broke off in the poor girl's jaw, but Afof
- 9:42Speaker 2: didn't stop. She went to the kitchen, grabbed another knife
- 9:45Speaker 2: and just continued the attack until Shahinas was dead.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Utterly brutal and horrifyingly determined what about little hay dear?
- 9:51Speaker 2: During all this, Afoff found the three thousand pounds After
- 9:54Speaker 2: killing Shahinas, she then just left three year old Header there,
- 9:58Speaker 2: likely terrified in crime, next to her sister's body. Afef
- 10:02Speaker 2: went downstairs to her own apartment, retrieved the can of kerosene,
- 10:05Speaker 2: came back up to the seventh floor. She doused Shahinaz's
- 10:08Speaker 2: body the room, set it ablaze, and made sure all
- 10:11Speaker 2: the doors and windows were tightly shut. The goal was clear,
- 10:14Speaker 2: destroy the evidence, yes, but also ensure Hadir died from
- 10:17Speaker 2: smoke inhalation, eliminate the only other witness.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And then the final act the performance downstairs.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Chilling, isn't it? After setting the fire, she went back
- 10:28Speaker 2: downstairs hid the money she hadn't given her husband yet.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Then she calmly returned to the scene, stood right there
- 10:33Speaker 2: beside Shahenaz's mother, who was obviously distraught as smoke poured out.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Afaf pretended to be shocked, horrified. She actually consoled the
- 10:40Speaker 2: grieving mother whose child she had just brutally murdered minutes before.
- 10:43Speaker 1: That level of deception is it's hard to comprehend. But
- 10:47Speaker 1: in the end the evidence was too.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Strong, overwhelming. The confession, the forensic links, the lies that
- 10:53Speaker 2: unraveled it all pointed directly to her. Effaff was found
- 10:57Speaker 2: dutty guilty of Shahinaz's murder, had years attempted murder, arson, theft, everything,
- 11:03Speaker 2: and in the year two thousand she received the death sentence.
- 11:06Speaker 1: So the core insight here really is the terrifying reality
- 11:10Speaker 1: that someone can live this complete double life. The family
- 11:13Speaker 1: felt safe because she was family. They trusted the relationship,
- 11:17Speaker 1: completely blind to the skilled manipulator and career criminal hiding
- 11:21Speaker 1: beneath that mask.
- 11:22Speaker 2: It really makes you think, doesn't it, How well can
- 11:24Speaker 2: you ever truly know someone, especially when they are actively
- 11:27Speaker 2: professionally deceiving you? They trusted the label family, but the
- 11:30Speaker 2: crime itself, The details of the crime screamed that something
- 11:33Speaker 2: was fundamentally wrong beneath the surface. The brutality didn't fit
- 11:37Speaker 2: a simple.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Robbery, which leads us and you listening with a really
- 11:40Speaker 1: unsettling thought if the most profound dangers sometimes aren't from
- 11:44Speaker 1: strangers lurking in the shadows, but from people we trust,
- 11:47Speaker 1: people we invite into our homes, people who might be
- 11:50Speaker 1: masters at exploiting that very trust. How secure can we
- 11:54Speaker 1: ever feel and what subtle signs might we be missing
- 11:57Speaker 1: when someone close is living a complete lie.