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Ken Rosenthal’s Inside Scoop: Padres sale update, Giants start slow + Yankees pursued Paul Skenes · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: We're hitting the inside Scoup.
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Speaker 2: It's presented by Game Changer, the number one youth sports
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Speaker 2: app here is FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. So, Ken, Wow,
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Speaker 2: that's a great view set the scene of where you're
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Speaker 2: at and what to expect this weekend.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 3: I'm an Oracle Park and we're getting ready for the
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Speaker 3: second game of the Yankees Giant series. I've got the
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Speaker 3: Fox game tomorrow, so I'm talking to people getting ready
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Speaker 3: for that, and it is an amazingly beautiful day in
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Speaker 3: the day area. It's like, I don't know, eighty degrees maybe,
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Speaker 3: and it's just unusually warm for this time of year,
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Speaker 3: and people are.
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Speaker 4: Lovingly wait, wait till the game, Ken, Yeah, wait till
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Speaker 4: the game. Make sure you have your sweater on, because
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Speaker 4: people who haven't been to San Francisco it's hot in
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Speaker 4: BP and you come out and you're like, holy crap.
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Speaker 4: But the Yankees came out hot. Are the Giants gonna
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Speaker 4: be able to come out hot in game two? Just
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Speaker 4: like the weather changes?
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, they're facing camp slip.
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Speaker 3: And this guy we saw him in the playoffs last year,
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Speaker 3: we saw him down the stretch for the Yankees.
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Speaker 5: Really the whole year.
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Speaker 3: He is special and Yankees you're expecting big things from him.
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Speaker 5: He could do their first home grown ace in a while.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if the Giants are going to
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Speaker 3: be how they're going to handle him today. Robbie Ray's
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Speaker 3: going for the Giants. Obviously, it's baseball. Anything can happen.
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Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of great pictures already, get kind
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Speaker 3: of beating around a little bit.
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Speaker 5: So who knows?
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Speaker 2: Hey, Ken, question for you while you're out in San Francisco.
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Speaker 2: The Giants had this dynasty run right where they won
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Speaker 2: three titles in five years. What's the viewpoint right now
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Speaker 2: from San Francisco over to La It's the one team
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Speaker 2: we haven't gotten to today. Of course, they had like
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Speaker 2: all the popping circumstance, Will Farrell driving around, Freddie Freeman
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Speaker 2: and Miguel Rojas and they win eight too. So I
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Speaker 2: don't know what would you use? Is there is there jealousy?
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Speaker 2: Is there envy? Or they're like, hey, they're having their run.
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Speaker 2: We had ours not too long ago.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that they've worried so much about the
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Speaker 3: Dodgers as they are themselves, Scott and they should be
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Speaker 3: worried about themselves. They've had four straight years where they've
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Speaker 3: been right around five hundred, maybe two games over, one
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Speaker 3: game under three hundred whatever. It's been that kind of
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Speaker 3: mediocre stretch for them. And what they're trying to do
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Speaker 3: is get back to what you were talking about, the
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Speaker 3: three titles in five years, twelve, I'm sorry, twenty ten, twelve, fourteen,
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Speaker 3: hard to do, hard to do, and you've got a
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Speaker 3: behamoth like the Dodgers in your division. But at the
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Speaker 3: same time, they just need to get themselves straight.
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Speaker 5: They've got a.
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Speaker 3: New manager, we all know that, Tony Vaitelo. They brought
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Speaker 3: in a number of players as well over the last
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Speaker 3: twelve months, starting with Devers.
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Speaker 5: We'll see how it plays out.
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Speaker 3: But they are just trying to be an above average
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Speaker 3: team again, that's what they have not been some time, Franklin.
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Speaker 2: And the one thing I will give them credit, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot more star power names that you know right
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Speaker 2: with the Giants, they've done a nice job of that
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Speaker 2: in the division. We haven't gotten to this on the
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Speaker 2: show either, and wanted to get your take since you
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Speaker 2: were part of the article in The Athletic where we
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Speaker 2: at with the potential Padres sale looks like they're going
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Speaker 2: to sell for a healthy number.
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Speaker 5: Very healthy number.
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Speaker 3: And the report that we had the other day Dennis
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Speaker 3: lenn and I was that they are looking possibly at
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Speaker 3: three point five billion. It's a billion over the previous record,
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Speaker 3: which was for the New York Mets.
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Speaker 5: This is the San Diego Padres.
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Speaker 3: Now you might ask, well, why is this happening, Why
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Speaker 3: this demand sudden in for the Padres.
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Speaker 5: A couple of things, one and many. Most of all,
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Speaker 5: there are four groups here.
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Speaker 3: Most of them have California roots in some fashion or another,
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Speaker 3: and you're not seeing California teams come up for sale,
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Speaker 3: So that's a rare thing. And obviously California is a
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Speaker 3: desirable place. San Diego is a desirable market with the
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Speaker 3: beautiful ballpark. But the Padres also deserve credit for putting
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Speaker 3: themselves in this position.
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Speaker 5: Where they are not clearly a.
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Speaker 3: Small market team in terms of at least their attendance
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Speaker 3: revenue anymore.
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Speaker 5: TV's a different story.
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Speaker 3: It's a problem all its own, but by the late
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Speaker 3: Peter side, and they're spending all the money that he
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Speaker 3: did and committing to.
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Speaker 5: The players that he did. It has transformed the franchise.
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Speaker 5: It has elevated them.
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Speaker 3: Now you might ask, well, why can't other small market
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Speaker 3: teams do this?
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Speaker 5: And that's a fair question. But MLB people will.
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Speaker 3: Say Cleveland their owner, Cincinnati their owner.
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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh, et cetera.
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Speaker 3: Those guys do not have the money that Peter Sidler did.
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Speaker 5: They can't operate by that.
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Speaker 3: That might be true, but it also might be true
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Speaker 3: that maybe baseball needs some new owners and Cleveland's getting one.
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Speaker 3: Cleveland's gonna have David Blitzer there at some point soon.
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Speaker 3: And it's a real interesting question too, Scott, as we
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Speaker 3: get into the CBA year, the labor year right now,
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Speaker 3: and once this deal goes down, don't say the numbers
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Speaker 3: three point two, a, three point zero.
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Speaker 5: Whatever number's gonna be. It's gonna be about three it
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Speaker 5: looks like. Then I'm sure people on the.
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Speaker 3: Union side will say, well, look, this demonstrates how healthy
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Speaker 3: the sport is. Team selling for three million in that market,
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Speaker 3: come on.
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Speaker 5: And then I'm sure owners will say it doesn't solve
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Speaker 5: any of the competitive issues. This is a unique outlier
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Speaker 5: type of situation.
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Speaker 3: And then will be the usual disagreement as.
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Speaker 5: There always seems to d between these parties.
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Speaker 6: Yes, as usual, that'll be interesting. Like you said, I
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Speaker 6: want to talk about the rookies first game of the
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Speaker 6: year for some of these guys, what's one guy that
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Speaker 6: stood out to you where you could see this trickle
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Speaker 6: effect of him taking off and being that rookie of
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Speaker 6: the year.
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Speaker 3: McGonagall for sure, Todd and Weather home posts. Now it's
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Speaker 3: one game. I don't have to tell you, guys, it's
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Speaker 3: just one game. But McGonagall hit offspring. What he does
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Speaker 3: is hit goes four to five yesterday, first picks double
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Speaker 3: right off the bat.
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Speaker 5: There's major league debut this kid. I've said this and
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Speaker 5: I believe it.
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Speaker 3: If he is what we saw or some similarly with
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Speaker 3: what we've seen, that's a different team all of a sudden.
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Speaker 3: It's a team with a more dynamic confidence and when
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Speaker 3: you put that.
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Speaker 5: Together with their pitchings.
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Speaker 3: I've got Valdez going today, it's a pretty impressing maybe
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Speaker 3: even a World Series type club Weather all the sorts
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Speaker 3: in a different situation with the big home run of today's.
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Speaker 5: The Cardinals are rebuilding and he's getting the chants with.
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Speaker 3: Them, and for that reason alone, I kind of like
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Speaker 3: as looking into your chances because they're going to play
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Speaker 3: and we'll see how it turns out. There are a
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Speaker 3: number of tremendous rookies this year, especially, I would say,
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Speaker 3: in the National League, and we haven't even seen kind
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Speaker 3: of Griffin yet. He's gonna start the We're in TRIPAA,
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Speaker 3: so it's a really exciting time to the sport seeing
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Speaker 3: these guys come to you the league.
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Speaker 4: Right now, right we're gonna hit your twelve, your twelve
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Speaker 4: intriguing storylines. Which of those twelve do you feel like
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Speaker 4: are your favorite? You have to choose a favorite, But
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Speaker 4: which of the twelve do you feel like super ce
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Speaker 4: the other ones?
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Speaker 5: That's a good question. Eric I would.
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Speaker 3: Say the labor one that I wrote was my favorite,
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Speaker 3: only because he pointed out something that we've come to
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Speaker 3: simply not expect anymore. That's the possibility of a CBA
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Speaker 3: happening during the season or shortly thereafter before the expiration
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Speaker 3: of the agreement.
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Speaker 5: And what I referred back to was my first year
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Speaker 5: at Box two thousand and six, and that year.
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Speaker 3: I got a call from one of our executives during
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Speaker 3: the World Series and he said, get ready, there's an
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Speaker 3: announcement imminent and we're gonna have a CBA announced tonight,
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Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to interview the commissioner, Bud Selig,
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Speaker 3: and the editing union don fear on the field. So
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Speaker 3: that did come to pass. It was like October twenty fourth,
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Speaker 3: and my goodness, we don't expect anything like that this year.
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Speaker 5: Rob Bamford has already.
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Speaker 3: Said he'd use the lockout as a strategic foe in negotiations.
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Speaker 5: So I was just pointing out in that, but it
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Speaker 5: doesn't have to be this way.
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Speaker 3: Even though we all expect it to be this win,
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Speaker 3: we're primed for it to be.
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Speaker 4: This win, which will be the least likely to be
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Speaker 4: repeated if it happens this year. The Dodgers three peat
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Speaker 4: or the Tarik Schooble three peat. Those were two of
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Speaker 4: your other intriguing storylines from the article.
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Speaker 3: I would say both unlikely, but I would go with
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Speaker 3: schoolball actually, and I know everybody thinks, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers are gonna win.
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Speaker 5: They win every year.
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Speaker 3: They don't win every year. This is a relatively recent phenomenon,
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Speaker 3: and Schooble, as we saw again yesterday, remains one of
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Speaker 3: the dominant pickers in the sports, and a third straight
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Speaker 3: side young should be within his reach now.
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Speaker 5: Garret Crochet is going to be right there with him.
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Speaker 1: Again.
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Speaker 5: You might see someone else emerge.
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Speaker 3: But I kind of like School's chances been than I
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Speaker 3: like the Dodgers because in the playoffs. I know it
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Speaker 3: hasn't happened in the last two years, but he came
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Speaker 3: close to happening in the playoffs, and you can get upset.
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Speaker 5: Things can happen, you can get beat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very close if you look at that
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Speaker 2: Blue Jays series and how close they were to winning
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Speaker 2: multiple times.
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Speaker 1: Ken, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Enjoy it out there the beautiful day, and then stay
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Speaker 2: warm at night and have a great weekend. We'll look
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Speaker 2: forward to you on Fox on Saturday. Nice guys, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So they were like, let's try to make this an
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Speaker 1: earlier or a deal.
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Speaker 2: They apparently called the pirates, John Hayman of The Post said,
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Speaker 2: and were willing to throw their top four prospects their way,
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Speaker 2: or four of their top prospects.
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Speaker 1: We didn't get the exact names.
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Speaker 2: But if you look at some of the top prospects
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Speaker 2: on their list at the time, George Lombard Junior, who
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Speaker 2: could be the shortstop of the future for the Yanks.
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Speaker 2: Spencer Jones, who's been talked about a ton. He's iron
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Speaker 2: judge size and is using with potential if he limits
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Speaker 2: the swing and miss Carlos Lagrange or however you say,
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Speaker 2: a Todd Father, I'll learn it once he gets to
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Speaker 2: the show. But he stole the show, Lene, He sold
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Speaker 2: the show in spring training.
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Speaker 1: He looks like a.
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Speaker 2: Dominant, dominant arm that's coming soon for the Yanks. Cam
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Speaker 2: Schlitler was also on that list at the time, so
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Speaker 2: it could have been quite a pretty package for the Pirates.
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Speaker 1: But they didn't even listen.
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Speaker 2: They didn't even want to hear Todd father what the
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Speaker 2: Yanks had to say because of how damn good Paul
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Speaker 2: Skeens is and what he means to the franchise. I
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Speaker 2: love the timing how this comes out. You know, right
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Speaker 2: on opening day Skeens gets lit up a little bit,
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Speaker 2: only partially his faults not hard contact and some miscues
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Speaker 2: in the outfield by O'Neil Cruz.
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Speaker 1: But your thoughts on the Yankees giving into the good.
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Speaker 2: Old college try to get the best picture in the
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Speaker 2: National League.
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Speaker 6: You guys know me very well when it comes to trades.
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Speaker 6: I love a guy that's been established. I love a
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Speaker 6: guy even though it's been what a cup of tea,
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Speaker 6: as they'd like to say, a cup of coffee for him.
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Speaker 6: He's the top picture, one of the top pictures in
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Speaker 6: baseball one maybe two. This guy is incredible. I would
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Speaker 6: get rid of all the prospects for a guy like this,
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Speaker 6: you know how I am. I would do that in
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Speaker 6: a heartbeat. I think it's a great try. I think
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Speaker 6: it is Ultimately it didn't work out, But I like
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Speaker 6: that they're trying. I do. I do let a guy
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Speaker 6: like George Lombard Junior if he was one of them
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Speaker 6: to go prosper if with another team, I don't know,
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Speaker 6: trade I would have in another prospect to get them,
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Speaker 6: if you want the truth. So for me, the fact
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Speaker 6: that they didn't want to even hear it that that
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Speaker 6: that doesn't sit well with me because you always want
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Speaker 6: to hear somebody out. But again, prospects their prospects for
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Speaker 6: a reason. For now, trade them all and get a
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Speaker 6: superstar and Paul Skins throw somebody else in there. I
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Speaker 6: I love everything about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the pirates could get to a point
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Speaker 2: crats where they do have to trade schemes. Not yet,
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Speaker 2: it's too soon. Yeah, will you think? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I tend to.
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Speaker 2: Agree because I think what will happen is what you think.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I do.
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Speaker 2: I think they will trade him, But I don't think
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Speaker 2: they're going to trade him ntil maximum two years away
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Speaker 2: from free agency totally. Yes, even more likely probably a
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Speaker 2: year away from free agency, because they're going to do
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Speaker 2: everything they can to throw the bag at him and
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Speaker 2: see if he'll bite at it. Right, and just find
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Speaker 2: out what's the number. I mean, at this point, already
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Speaker 2: at that you think already late, we're already at the
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Speaker 2: stage where.
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Speaker 1: We're talking on an extension. What a number in the fours.
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Speaker 2: It's got to be the biggest contract of all time.
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Speaker 2: I don't care that you're hitting free agency still a
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Speaker 2: few years from now.
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Speaker 1: It's it's big, dude. It's at least deep into the threes.
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Speaker 4: It's deep into the threes. But we've never even gotten
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Speaker 4: into the twos for a contract extension of a pre
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Speaker 4: arb pitcher. So if that's what we're talking about, like,
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Speaker 4: I can't say it's going to be fours, and I
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Speaker 4: don't think he accepts anything less than a four. Like,
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Speaker 4: to me, this isn't this isn't necessarily a discussion about
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Speaker 4: Paul Skene's you know, future extension worth. It's about the
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Speaker 4: fact that can the pirates afford what he's going to
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Speaker 4: get in arbitration. He's going to break records each three
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Speaker 4: years that he's going to be there. So to me,
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Speaker 4: the pirates have this year and next year, I think
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Speaker 4: they'd be willing to probably pay him whatever the max
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Speaker 4: a pitcher has ever gotten. And then add six million
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Speaker 4: to it for his first year of arbitrary Like it's
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Speaker 4: just it's gonna be a crazy, crazy discussion. And so
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Speaker 4: to say you would get four prospects back from it,
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Speaker 4: one of those four guys is in the big leagues
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Speaker 4: this year. I don't care where you think, Spencer Jones
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Speaker 4: or Legranghey or or you know, Lombard Junior is gonna
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Speaker 4: be like, there's one dude that's in the big leagues
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Speaker 4: right now, Like that's and you're giving up a It's
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Speaker 4: a great move by the by the Yankees. I heard
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Speaker 4: Charlie Manuel. I've said it before on the show. When
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Speaker 4: John Carlos Stanton first got caught up to the big leagues.
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Speaker 4: A reporter because Charlie Manuel loves Homers. He goes the
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Speaker 4: reporter goes, hey, who would you trade for John Carlos Stanton?
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Speaker 4: He goes, what, Well, I would trade. I would trade
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Speaker 4: Roy Holliday. I would trade koloop Lee too, Like who
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Speaker 4: else do they want? Like I want Paul Skeens. Is
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Speaker 4: that guy you give up the farm? Because all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden, you're winning game one of every every playoff
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Speaker 4: series or game two if Cole Hamil's pitches game one.
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Speaker 3: I mean.
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Speaker 4: Garrek Cole, Garret Cole pitches game.
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Speaker 6: One and and think of that, Just think of that,
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Speaker 6: Skemes Cole, freed rodn I'll missing one, Luis who else? Yeah,
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Speaker 6: show Heo Tani was the dude for the Angels. Why
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Speaker 6: they didn't try it? They could have got twenty prospects
17:34
Speaker 6: for this dude. Angels messed up. Pirates better not mess
17:37
Speaker 6: this one up.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys. I just think it's too soon.
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Speaker 2: So I think them hanging up the phone now is okay?
17:44
Speaker 2: Them hanging up the phone when he's two years out
17:47
Speaker 2: of free agency and if he has not agreed to
17:49
Speaker 2: anything yet at that point, it's not okay.
17:52
Speaker 1: And I think, no.
17:53
Speaker 2: Matter what happens, even if the Pirates have a better
17:55
Speaker 2: year this year and eventually Connor Griffin comes up and
17:58
Speaker 2: he shines, there is a trust issue, there's going to
18:03
Speaker 2: be a trust issue based on the past ten years.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: It's not how they've treated Paul. They're treating him great.
18:07
Speaker 2: It's just how the team has performed and how they've
18:10
Speaker 2: spent their resources over the past ten years. And when
18:12
Speaker 2: you look around the League and your Paul and he's
18:14
Speaker 2: not stupid and all he I don't want to say
18:16
Speaker 2: all he cares about is winning. But he's one of
18:18
Speaker 2: those dogs, right, Like, look at him and the emotion
18:21
Speaker 2: that he had in the World Baseball Classic versus when
18:23
Speaker 2: he found out he won his.
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Speaker 1: First award in the Biggs.
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Speaker 2: Right, there is your difference between what he cares about
18:29
Speaker 2: and what is a little lower on the totem pole.
18:32
Speaker 2: So if you're him Kratz and you're thinking about your
18:34
Speaker 2: brain long term, you have to get over the hump,
18:37
Speaker 2: even if the number is big, and say, do I
18:40
Speaker 2: trust this team is going to put winning pieces around
18:42
Speaker 2: me so I can consistently get that feeling, that adrenaline
18:45
Speaker 2: rush in the postseason with the Pirates. That's the thing
18:48
Speaker 2: he has to think about. All he has to do
18:50
Speaker 2: is look over to Anaheim and look at Mike Traft's career,
18:53
Speaker 2: and he's barely touched the playoffs. You know the money's
18:56
Speaker 2: going to be close enough, right if he takes an
18:58
Speaker 2: extension with the Pirates now versus waiting or saying, hey,
19:02
Speaker 2: I'm not going to take something, so I'm going to
19:03
Speaker 2: get traded, Chances are you're going to end up with
19:06
Speaker 2: a team that's going to put you in a better
19:08
Speaker 2: position to win on a yearly basis.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 4: See I don't see any I don't see any amount
19:15
Speaker 4: of money that is going to be able to line
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Speaker 4: up where Paul Skeins gets his value to stay and
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Speaker 4: not win, or he or the pirates are like, hey,
19:24
Speaker 4: you know what, we're definitely going to do this, Like
19:26
Speaker 4: they pushed the one hundred million dollar limit and then
19:29
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, that's it, one hundred million. We're good,
19:32
Speaker 4: We're over that, done Ski.
19:35
Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 4: I just think I think if there's a chance to
19:38
Speaker 4: win there, Paul Skeins does want to win.
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Speaker 1: There.
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Speaker 4: He said it, And it doesn't matter what he said
19:42
Speaker 4: like oh we'd love to play for the Yankees. No,
19:44
Speaker 4: all he means is he'd love to win. And if
19:47
Speaker 4: winning is the most important thing, a few million here
19:51
Speaker 4: and there, you're always going to make more in free
19:53
Speaker 4: agency and this dude, that's that's where he's going to go.
19:57
Speaker 4: And I don't see him. I don't see him, excepted
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Speaker 4: accepting any extension where they both meet up.
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Speaker 2: Last point here, I want to make sure this is
20:08
Speaker 2: like my point is clear here. Those four players we
20:12
Speaker 2: mentioned for Paul Skins, you take it every day of
20:14
Speaker 2: the week, Todd Father. There were many people online that
20:18
Speaker 2: were trying to go through the accolades for the prospects
20:21
Speaker 2: and then also what Schlitler has done in his short
20:25
Speaker 2: time in the big leagues.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. No, Well, if you're on.
20:30
Speaker 2: That side of the argument with a few years of
20:34
Speaker 2: schemes too, right, you want to have an argument like
20:37
Speaker 2: if they want to trade him at the deadline on
20:39
Speaker 2: his free agent year and they're asking for this, cool,
20:41
Speaker 2: we can have that conversation.
20:43
Speaker 1: But with many years.
20:44
Speaker 2: Of control over Paul Skins, top two pitcher in the Biggs,
20:47
Speaker 2: you never get that opportunity.
20:49
Speaker 1: You take that every damn day of the week. Is
20:51
Speaker 1: there a line?
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Speaker 2: Sure, you're not going to empty at your major league club,
20:54
Speaker 2: but three prospects and a promising pitcher for a top
20:59
Speaker 2: two in the Biggs?
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm I and.
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Speaker 6: And if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna Detroit Tigers, I
21:04
Speaker 6: would have Now that I know I'm calling the Yankees. Hey,
21:07
Speaker 6: I got schoobl over here. Let's talk. Let's talk. I mean, listen,
21:11
Speaker 6: it's schemes are scooball. I don't see why there couldn't
21:14
Speaker 6: be another conversation with them too.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Tigers are gonna be it. I think that's
21:20
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the difference. But to me, when the
21:22
Speaker 4: first Skien stuff first came out, we didn't hear about
21:25
Speaker 4: this stuff. But I talked to a scout of a
21:28
Speaker 4: team that wanted Scheens, which is just any team that
21:31
Speaker 4: is in the playoffs. Every team would want Skiens. So
21:34
Speaker 4: that we can put that to rest. It's not just
21:35
Speaker 4: the Yankees, he said, it's not hard for a team
21:38
Speaker 4: that wants schemes like that's a no brainer. It's because
21:41
Speaker 4: if he gets hurt or something like that happens, like
21:45
Speaker 4: you can't control that kind of stuff. It's the team.
21:47
Speaker 4: It's the Pirates coming back. You can't miss you can't
21:51
Speaker 4: miss on that because look at what happened, Look at
21:53
Speaker 4: what happened with the Gnats. The Nats got rid of
21:56
Speaker 4: Wan Soto with two plus years to go because he
22:01
Speaker 4: wouldn't sign. He wouldn't sign the extension for four hundred
22:04
Speaker 4: and fifteen million, and they got back Mackenzie Gore from
22:07
Speaker 4: the padres, cj Abrams, James Wood and Haslin too. So,
22:13
Speaker 4: dudes that are all in the big leaders, one guy
22:15
Speaker 4: that's still in the minor leagues, and now the Nats
22:18
Speaker 4: haven't won at all from at all. From that, they
22:21
Speaker 4: got three prominent big leaders on their team, and now
22:24
Speaker 4: they flipped Mackenzie Gore over. So you can't miss it
22:28
Speaker 4: because you're not just getting players for that player. You're
22:31
Speaker 4: getting players to make your organization better so that you
22:34
Speaker 4: can ultimately win. So the pressure is on the team
22:37
Speaker 4: that's getting all the prospects back. You can't screw that up.
22:41
Speaker 4: So it's way more work for them.