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David Kaplan talks Bears & the end of the Cubs season, the Chicken Coop Contest and final thoughts from Iowa basketball media day · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, welcome back Miller and Condon.
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It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network flagship on Des Moines
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We'll get back to Iowa City. The bottom of the hour, More
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from men's basketball media days with Trent coming up at about
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1:30. Right now, David Kaplan joins
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me. Centurion Stone of Iowa sponsors
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CAPI on a weekly basis. Capri, Ken, how are you?
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I am awesome. How are you guys doing today?
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How's things in your world? Well.
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Doing pretty well, doing pretty well.
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A lot of ground to cover with you.
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Obviously the Bears nice win on Monday Night Cup season comes to
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an end. Now the post season or the off
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season begins. But let's start with the Bears
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capper and then we'll get to the Cubs 'cause I do have a bunch of
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questions. I know that the audience wants
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me to ask you, so we'll do that. But what a difference a year
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makes. The score was the same, just the
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other team won. The Bears knocked off the
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Commanders 25, 24 this year. That was a big win for this
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team, cap. It really does.
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We got think back. Obviously it seemed like a
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season defining loss last year and the season went the wrong
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way. We'll see if this propels the
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Bears. Their schedule's certainly
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conducive to putting some wins together.
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Your thoughts on what you saw on Monday night?
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I mean, it's a huge win. We talked last week, you and me
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and Trent, you and I, I think we're in agreement that it
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wasn't a must win. But if you could find a way to
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get on the plane and go home, three and two.
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Now you're cooking with gas. Three in a row, you're coming
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home to play a team again. You can lose to any team in the
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league. I get it.
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You should beat the New Orleans Saints that sold your field
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Sunday at noon. You should should.
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And if you do and you get the four and two, oh, man, look out
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because are the Ravens going to have Lamar Jackson back?
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I think they might. But they're not playing good
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football. Their defense is not playing
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well. You're playing them there.
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Then you play a Bengals team that's now down to Joe Flacco.
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That's a winnable football game. And then you come home and play
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the New York Giants, who have talent, just beat the Eagles.
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But again, that's in your building.
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So there are some real opportunities for the Chicago
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Bears to get on a little bit of a role and I'll, I'm not sure
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they're going to beat the Lions. But short of the Lions, I look
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at their schedule and go, they can win most any game on their
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schedule. Can they get to 10 wins?
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That's what you're probably going to need to get to the
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playoffs. I think they can.
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I thought it was DeAndre Swift's.
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I'm sure he's had other games cap, You know, he's been in the
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league for five years now, but it's been his best game in a
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while. I think that's fair to say.
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What was the difference? Swift ran hard.
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Holes were there for him. He had a big game on Monday
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night. He was great, but the gaps that
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were created by that revamped offensive line, you got Darnell
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right back and despite other you told he has a torn ulnar
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collateral ligament and he's going to try and play through it
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the whole rest of the way as long as they go and then get it
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fixed. He was a baseball player.
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He'd be done. That's Tommy John surgery, but
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as an offensive lineman, they braced it and I'm sure dead in
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the pain and that dude was outstanding.
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Jonah Jackson after moving from left guard to right guard, which
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is not an easy thing to do. I keep getting tweets and texts
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from people who know me. Why is it so different to go
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from left to right? Because your footwork, your lead
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arm, everything is different. And Olin Cruz said that is not
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an easy thing to do. He is playing really good
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football, was excellent on Monday.
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Joe Tooney is 2 time all pro the last two years, first team.
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He's really good with the Chiefs MVP.
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Drew Dahlman had a really good day, and then Theo Benedette now
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plugged in at left tackle. That team created running lanes
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and DeAndre Swift executed him. He's great, you know, he really
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did. Your thoughts on the QB?
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Is he continuing to take steps forward?
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100% I know there's some people that thought Caleb wasn't great.
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I didn't think Caleb was an A+ player, but I thought Caleb
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played a solid football game. B minus, I thought he was solid.
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He didn't turn it over. The other guy threw an
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interception and fumble it late in the game when they're trying
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to put it away. Talking about Jayden Daniels,
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who's a very good football player.
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Caleb got the ball in his hands with a chance to go down and win
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the game. And guess what?
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They got down the field and they found a way to win.
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They ran it well. He hit close to Loveland for a
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big first down and in the end they got the field goal and won
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the football game. So I like where this team is
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trending. I saw Chase, Daniels said.
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That was the most calm and cool he has watched Caleb Williams
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play. Did he miss a few throws?
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Yeah, did I did. I think he missed a few throws.
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Yeah. He had a couple slants where
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either he threw at 100 miles an hour or he wasn't on the same
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page with his receiver or Mikey Sandra still should have
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intercepted one down in the red zone and he didn't.
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He dropped it and he threw it right to him, right in the
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chest, but he also threw for 252 yards, threw a touchdown, ran a
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touchdown. And if Olimitis Zacchaeus
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doesn't drop a dive right in his hands late in the game, that's
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the 88 out of the gate, That's a 90 yard touchdown.
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He's gone and he dropped it. That happens.
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That's part of the game. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with
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where they're at to find a way to win and get on that plane.
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Three and two was massive. Now I can tell you all in Fruit
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said to me last night your plus 10 the last three games in
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turnover margin or take away margin and you're only winning
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by one point each of the last two games.
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That's a fair critique that could be cause for concern.
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You know what that tells me? Quit making 9 penalties and
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let's see where you. Go well and one of the wasn't a
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penalty and it Costa dunsey A touchdown.
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Terrific pass, better catch in the end.
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The horrible. Well, yeah, it wasn't a Colonel
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and and Aikman pointed out. All right, one more on the Bears
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cap. As far as what they're going to
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do Cairo Santos missed the game. Here comes former third round
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pick Jake Moody and worn out, worn out as welcome in San
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Francisco as confidence was shot.
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Yes, he had the block kick, but I think he's got a much stronger
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leg than Santos does. Do they have a decision to make
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here? Does Santos automatically get
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his job back? Is it a true competition at the
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kicker spot? Because as as Cruz pointed out,
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these are close football games and it's going to come down a
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lot of times to a kick or not. What do they do?
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I think if if Cutleros healthy, I still think he kicks.
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You know, Jake Moody has not been the most guy.
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Cairo, while he may not have quite as big a leg as Jake
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Moody, is the most accurate kicker in Bears history.
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And they've had some really good kickers from Kevin Butler to Bob
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Thomas to Mac Percival to Robbie Gold, my God, who I love.
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So I I would think they'll stick with Cairo if if he's healthy.
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Kevin Butler, There's a name from the past.
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He had a nice career in Chicago, didn't he?
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Oh, great career it was a rookie on the 85 team.
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Dropped that out of Georgia and he was phenomenal.
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Yeah, there's a name I hadn't heard in a while.
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Well, let's go to the baseball cap and obviously it comes to an
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end on Saturday night. They got the two games at
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Wrigley. You, you've been to 1,000,000
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games at Wrigley, big games at Wrigley.
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I've been to a lot of games at Wrigley.
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Never the magnitude of the games that you've seen boys seem loud
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cap. It just seemed like Wrigley was
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in full throat and at its very best.
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Would that be a fair assumption watching on TV?
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Yeah, my wife was there. I bought her Bleacher seats for
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Wednesday and Thursday and her sister flew in from San Diego.
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Who's a die hard Cubs fan. I think my sister-in-law,
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Veronica, last year saw 45 home games.
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She was still living here. Yeah, 45.
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And she would go back. She lived two blocks away and
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she would literally walk her dog, my ticket, drop the dog off
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and walk back and sit in the bleachers by herself more often
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than not because she just loves the Chicago Cubs.
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So she called and said, you got a bed for me there.
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I said my house is your house. And she came in and my her and
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my wife Wednesday and Thursday sat in the right field Bleacher
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and my wife. I've taken my wife to the World
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Series. And my wife said other than the
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game, we clinched the Pennant when we beat the Dodgers in 16
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behind Kyle Hendricks over Kershaw and the game five First
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World Series win in 71 years at Wrigley.
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Other than those two, she said it was the most electric
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environment she's ever seen for a Chicago sporting event.
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That's wild and she's seen a bunch of them Kappa you you
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mentioned Kyle Hendricks. I don't think it's an official
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yet If it if he did retire. I missed the official
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announcement. Seems like he's going to what's
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next for him to the Cubs having AI don't know what's an
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ambassador. He's made a lot of money.
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I don't know what he wants to to do, but boy, oh boy, such a such
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seemingly a great teammate. Obviously what he said at a
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press conference before they played the Cubs, just how
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special Wrigley Field was and how he loved it.
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Is there a spot for Kyle Hendricks in the organization?
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Yeah, I think he wants some time to be at home with his wife,
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Emma. And they have a young child, I
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think maybe one year old. I think he wants to be a dad and
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be a husband and all of that. But I do think he wants
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something to do, and I think he wants it to be with the Chicago
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Cubs. So what I'm hearing is he'll end
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up being an ambassador. They'll pay him whatever they
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pay an ambassador. Not what you made as a Major
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League player, but I would think that him Anthony Rizzo, because
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the Cubs ambassadors not very young gone, Santos gone.
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Billy's in his 80s and Fergie's in his 80s and Rhino's gone, so
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you have opportunities for younger players.
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I think you'll see a lot of Rizzo and Hendricks around the
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organization. Jed Hoyer met the media his end
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of season press conference today.
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I did not hear it. I'm just seeing snippets on
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Twitter. The Kyle Tucker question.
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Obviously it's going to come up. He didn't sound like he was, you
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know, go out of his going to go out of his way to stay Tucker.
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I'm just I'm talking about when he was asked after the game.
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I get it. Players aren't going to, you
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know, put their cards out on the table.
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Do you think that he's seen the last of right field at Wrigley
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Field, at least while wearing a Cubs uniform?
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Oh boy. I always believed that they were
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going to find a way to get Kyle Tucker resigned because someone
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who was in the room the day after they made the trade for
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him told me that Tom Ricketts stood up in that room in a
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meeting and said, OK, what's our plan?
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How do we get this guy re signed?
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And they were, Tom was told, look, he doesn't want to do
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anything right now. He wants to see if he likes
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Chicago. Does his wife like it in
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Chicago? And he's worked his whole life
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to test free agency. You never know what happened.
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You know, I don't think Juan Soto thought that Steve Cohen
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was going to ride in to give him $765,000,000 and have a bidding
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war with the Yankees. I don't think he believed that.
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He knew he was going to make insane money either way.
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But you never know what happened.
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What if there's an owner says, I got to have Kyle Tucker, here's
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500 million, he's gone. I can promise you that the Cubs
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will never do that for him. Now, we also have a work
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stoppage coming in the end of the 26th season.
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And it could be a messy 1 and it could be a lengthy one because
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the owners want a salary cap and the players say they're dug in.
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They'll never agree to one. Well, the owners can hold on a
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lot longer because if you're a player, let's say you're 32
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years old, you're going to miss two of the highest earning years
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of your career if they shut the sport down.
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I don't think you can because your body gets older.
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You're going to come back and go, oh God, I left two years of
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money on the table. It's easy for an 18 year old
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minor leaguer, though. All right, let me know when
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we're going to get back to playing.
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So we'll see what happens. But I do think the labor will
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play into not only Kyle Tucker, everyone's market in the
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offseason. One of those guys in the market
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was a potentially a Cubs target and they didn't want to go term.
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And that's Alex Bregman, who now has opted out in in Boston.
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Obviously he was going to come over and play third base.
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They seemingly have solved that. Matt Shaw was nominated.
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I think there was 6 Cubs on the list that we got nominated for a
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Gold Glove. Is Bregman still on their wish
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list? Or was what Matt Shaw?
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Did he open up enough eyes that maybe there could not contend
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more than contend just to let Matt Shaw man the hot quarter
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for the hot corner for the foreseeable future?
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Matt Shaw is going nowhere. There's no way that they are
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going to bring in. I'd be shocked if they went
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signed Alex Bregman to a long term big money deal.
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I don't see it. Jed Hoyer at his media session
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today talked about how clean their books are.
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They literally like, I'm sitting at my studio computer right now
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while I'm talking to you. I'll look it up.
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But the Cubs payroll going forward, if you look at what
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they have commitments for after this year, I don't believe that
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they have a ton of money committed because they have, as
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he said, clean books 2026. They do not have a lot on the
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books, man, Dansby Swanson, OK, he's locked in show to Imanaga.
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I don't know if he's coming back.
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They're going to have to either extend him and pick up a $20
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million option or he walks out the door, say as Suzuki final
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year of his deal, Ian Hap, final year of his deal, Jameson Tayon,
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final year of his deal, Matthew Boyd, final year of his deal,
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Nico Horner final year of his deal.
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Those guys are all going to be out of here.
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So if you look at 2027, which is the season that we might be in
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real trouble, here's what their active roster payroll is for
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2027. Dansby Swanson and then three
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guys who are on options Imanaga, Matthew Boyd, Carson Kelly,
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That's it. Everyone else is either they
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control through arbitration or they are free agents.
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That is, on one hand, incredibly intelligent by Jed.
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I know the Ricketts family will take their slings and arrows.
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Well, how can you not spend more money?
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Well, if you're going into a labor stop at you, you don't
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know the new rules coming out. That's probably really
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intelligent. However, what if you don't get
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enough opportunity to get guys signed?
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They go other places. You don't have anything, just
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young guys and Gansby Swanson. That's it.
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So we'll see. Cap, correct me if I'm wrong,
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but I thought every pitcher that pitched in the final game, the
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three one loss in Milwaukee on Saturday night with the
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exception of Palencia. So that would be Pomerance,
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Colin Ray, Thielbar, Kittridge and Keller.
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The only one of those six pitchers that pitched that will
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be back for sure is Palencia. With options and free agency.
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Pomerance, Ray, Theobar, Kittridge and Keller could all
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be gone. Of that group, who would you
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like? Who would you recommend comes
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back? So who would I bring back out of
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my bullpen? Yep.
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Well, Brad Keller I would absolutely bring back, but
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you're not getting him on a minor league.
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No for 1.5. Pomeranz is not consigning here
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for a one year deal for 1.5. Caleb Theobar is not signing for
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2.75, Colin Ray is probably going to get more than 4.25.
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And I admit I can keep. Going Kittridge.
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There's a bunch of it. Kittridge made 9 million this
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year, but you got him August, it's the first, so you didn't
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really have to. You only paid him 2.8.
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That was it. So my point is you better add a
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lot of money to your bullpen and figure out how you're going to
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get got and are those guys going to all perform at that level.
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Drew Pomerance was out of Major League Baseball since 2021 and
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Jed plucked him out of the minor leagues in Seattle.
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Think Seattle wouldn't like to have that left-handed arm now?
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Absolutely they would. So he's going into his 12th year
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in the big leagues. Javier Assad, you own the rights
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to you'll keep him. He only makes $790,000.
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You're going to extend Michael Bush, Jed said.
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Today. We're going to have extension
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talks with certain guys. Well, that's got to be Pete Core
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Armstrong. That's got to be Michael Bush.
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Nico Horner, make it 780,000. Nico Horner has right now he is
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making $11.5 million and his contract expires after next
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year. So I would think you're going to
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want to extend him. But do you do that before you
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know what the rules of the new collective bargaining could be?
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I don't know if you do. So we'll find out.
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Last thing for you, Cap, let's go over the Gold Glovers
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finalists. Carson Kelly was one of three,
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Bailey and Torrance the others. Nico Horner at second base.
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Yeah, Terang's a nice player, but I think it'd be robbery if
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Horner doesn't win it. Matt Shaw at third base Ryan
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Hayes is a is a wizard with the with the Pirates slash now Reds
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Ian Haps got one PCA has to get one and my and Matthew Boyd in
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the pitcher spot. How many and Dansby Swanson by
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the way, was not nominated first time in I think five years.
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How many Gold Gloves end up with the Cubs players after when
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they're when they're awarded 2/3?
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I will say Nico. Yep, Matthew Boyd, Keith Car
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Armstrong and Ian Hap. They win 4.
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Wow, I could see it. Good stuff, Kappa.
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You're the best, brother. Appreciate you coming on.
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Talking bears, talking Cubs. Obviously, there'll be a lot of
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Cubs talk during the offseason. Great talking to you, Kappa.
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Thank you, Paul. Appreciate.
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It too man anytime love talking to you.
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See you pal. Good to talk to you, David
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Kaplan as he joins us talking Chicago sports and he does each
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and every Wednesday at 1:00 each and every Wednesday at 1:00.
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All right, we will take the time.
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Trent's going to rejoin. We'll do some Panther back and
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forth up McCullum in the scheduling conversation was
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fascinating with McCullum and yes, he hears it from Drake
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fans, from Panther fans and from fans just I mean, I would love
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to see these schools continue to play, but it doesn't make sense,
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unfortunately. And that's not Mccollum's fault.
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That's not T JS fault. That's not anybody's fault at
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that level, power for our power conference level.
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It's just the way that the net is is configured.
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It doesn't make sense to play. Those schools and it's it's just
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a product where we're at and the money that's that's tossed
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that I was very informative. I love the fact that he, I mean,
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he certainly understood the and I'm sure he's heard it, the
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criticism, the blowback, the pushback from Drake fans, from
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you and I fans, don't forget where you came from type of
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thing. I get all of those things.
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But at the end of the day, his reason for doing so?
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Unfortunately, it's the lay of the land, right?
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Yeah, absolutely. And you know, that's, I
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understand the frustrations on both sides personally.
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Yeah, I would love to have those games come back.
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There was something special and it didn't matter if it doesn't
23:03
happen in other states or other programs across the country.
23:06
It's what made Iowa special in non conference scheduling is
23:09
having those home in homes. I would love them to come back.
23:12
But I also know the reality is they're not coming back and
23:14
there is a reason for it. It's not ducking.
23:17
It's about the way that schedules are currently set up
23:19
with the explosion of conferences with the bigger
23:21
schedules that go in to it, coupled with the net ranking in
23:25
the way that it makes sense to play the game.
23:27
Certainly numbers wise, you understand why it's not there.
23:30
And it doesn't make sense for Iowa or Iowa State to go on the
23:34
road every single year for one of the two to go to either you
23:37
and I or Drake and then vice versa the following season.
23:39
It just doesn't make sense for them.
23:41
It stinks for us as fans and and for fans of basketball in the
23:44
state, but I understand it from both sides, from both the Iowa
23:47
and the Iowa State side. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you
23:50
more and I didn't before, but it's it's you're you're 100%
23:53
right. Hey, I think it's, I think it
23:55
was you and I forgot to bring this up yesterday because I saw
23:57
it before our show on yesterday. I think on Monday.
24:00
You mentioned Chase so well in the helmet as he was leaving the
24:04
as he was leaving Folsom Field and I looked at you like what
24:06
the hell are you talking about? I had not seen it.
24:09
The fan that tried to well, as he's walked, let me set the
24:13
scene a little bit. There's fans rushed in the
24:14
field. Colorado just knocked off Iowa
24:17
State and by the I'm guessing it was a student, a student tried
24:21
to get in a essentially a tug of war with so well trying to steal
24:26
his helmet and then run into the throngs of people.
24:29
And if he would have got to his, you know, the, his fellow
24:31
students that that would have been in a dorm room as a trophy
24:35
at this point. But how about the way so well,
24:37
who handled it right? He didn't go crazy.
24:40
He didn't fight. He didn't get let go of his
24:42
helmet. But I think he used to be
24:43
commended for the, you know, 'cause it's, I mean, his hair's
24:47
on fire, right? It's all of this pandemonium
24:50
happening around him and he still had the wherewithal to
24:53
kind of try and calm the waters and do what he did.
24:56
I thought that was phenomenal on his part.
24:59
Absolutely. And I'm going to guess there's
25:02
already been a fine that has been levied by the Big 12.
25:05
There's already been one that has happened with the Big 12.
25:08
And you have to anticipate that there's going to be even more
25:10
that's going to be happening here.
25:11
I mean, you can't have fans doing that.
25:14
There's a reason that we have things in place and for you see
25:18
the SEC and now the ACC for storming the field or storming
25:21
the court and it's incidents like this.
25:23
You have to have parameters in place to keep the the players
25:26
safe and the visiting players, and this certainly was not the
25:29
case. It's there, I think so.
25:31
Well, absolutely. As frustrated as it had to be.
25:35
That's your helmet. You're not going to give up.
25:36
I mean, it's just, it's a part of it's Ken.
25:38
It's like you and your hockey stick, right?
25:40
Yes, trends your 1000% right. Here's the other thing and we'll
25:43
get to Joe Russ, Herb and Tyler would give the chicken coop here
25:46
in about 10 seconds. But here's what could have
25:48
happened Trent, if so well, so well decided.
25:51
You know, I'm just going to clock this dude, which he had
25:53
every right to do. Yep, you don't damn well that
25:56
there was going to be a camera and some student would have a
25:58
cut the video and it would just been this Sobi was state fans or
26:02
loser who would have punched a student and we wouldn't have
26:06
known the entire story what was behind it.
26:09
Well done, Chase, so well and that was in in a difficult spot
26:13
thinking on your feet. All right, Joe, Russ, Herb and
26:16
Tyler, all of you the tiebreaker.
26:18
How about this a basketball tiebreaker.
26:20
The the exhibition game over in Omaha, Creighton and Iowa State
26:24
will be total points closest without going over.
26:27
There are three chicken coop locations, 60th and Ashworth in
26:31
West Des Moines. That's the original in Urbandale
26:34
12725 Meredith and in Ankeny on oral labor just South of the D
26:40
Mac campus. Let's go to Joe.
26:42
First of all, Joe, how are you? Hey, how's it going?
26:47
Good Joe Iowa is a 2 1/2 point favorite over Penn State.
26:53
I'll take 10 state. Notre Dame, a 9 1/2 point
26:57
favorite over USC, give. Me the Trojan.
27:05
Texas Tech on the road at Arizona State is a 7 1/2 point
27:09
favorite. Who who was against Arizona
27:15
State? I'm sorry.
27:16
Texas Texas Tech. Texas Tech, Arizona State, I'll
27:21
take the Raiders. OK And one NFL game Monday
27:25
night, the Lions hosting Tampa Bay.
27:27
The Lions are a 5 1/2 point favorite.
27:29
See the buck? Here's the tiebreaker.
27:33
Joe Closest without going over. Creighton, Iowa State Friday
27:36
night. Total points.
27:37
Closest without going over. 151. Joe, enjoy the rest of your day.
27:42
Thank you. Thank you.
27:45
Appreciate it. Russ is up next.
27:47
Hi, Russ. Hey, how's it going?
27:49
Good. Hawks 2 1/2 to Penn State.
27:53
Penn State Notre Dame is the 9 1/2 point favorite over USC.
27:57
Notre Dame. Texas Tech 7 1/2 to Arizona
28:00
State Arizona State Lions on Monday night a 5 1/2 point
28:05
favorite over Tampa Bay. The Bucks Creighton, Iowa State
28:10
total points closest without going over US 152.
28:14
Thanks Russ. Enjoy the rest of your day.
28:15
You too bye. Thank you Herb's with Miller and
28:18
Con and hi Herb. Hey how you doing good.
28:21
I was a 2 1/2 point favorite over Penn State.
28:25
I'll. Take Penn State.
28:26
Notre Dame 9 1/2 to USC. USC.
28:31
Texas Tech 7 1/2 point favorite at Arizona State Arizona State
28:36
Monday Night Football Lions 5 1/2 to the Buccaneers I'll.
28:40
Take Tampa Bay. Creighton and Iowa State closest
28:43
without going over total points Friday night in Omaha.
28:47
I'm going with 139. 139 herb. Thank you, bud.
28:51
Appreciate it. But you got.
28:53
And Tyler brings it to a close. Hi Tyler, they can I was a 2 1/2
28:59
point favorite over Penn State, Iowa, Notre Dame.
29:03
A 9 1/2 point favorite to USC Notre Dame, Texas Tech 7 1/2 at
29:09
Arizona State, Texas Tech, Detroit Lions give 5 1/2 to the
29:15
Buccaneers on Monday. Lion and Creighton and Iowa
29:20
State total points closest without going over tiebreaker.
29:23
Tyler one, 53153. Tyler, enjoy the rest of your
29:27
week. Thank you, buddy.
29:29
Yep, appreciate it and appreciate the chicken coop
29:31
again. Three locations throughout
29:33
central Iowa, Urbandale, Ankeny and West Des Moines.
29:36
We'll take our final time out. We'll head back down to Iowa
29:38
City. Final thoughts from Trent on
29:40
what he witnessed here earlier today.
29:43
We'll do that. We'll get his plays of the day.
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That's awesome. So what are you watching right
30:53
now? A little scrimmage.
30:55
Not even that, they're just going through someone on one
30:58
drills right now. So let's see.
31:00
We got skirts at the top of the key, takes it in, left hand
31:02
layup, little scoop shot up and in.
31:04
He's working against housing there.
31:05
So now we're going to have to have defensive questions about
31:08
housing. You know, the one thing that
31:10
stands out and while you're talking with Kathy, I went down
31:13
and I had a chance to talk to, I don't know, four or five players
31:16
for just a couple of minutes each, Every single one of them.
31:19
You can tell this isn't lip service.
31:21
I mean, you, you hear Coach McCullum talk, right, about
31:24
teamwork, those aspects, just those small things that
31:28
sometimes they're just that coach speak, but they're not
31:31
real talking to these players. Listening to coach, talking to
31:35
him off the record, you can just tell it's it's not fake.
31:38
It's not just saying the things that you're supposed to say as a
31:42
team. These are the real tenets of
31:44
things. And that's why I believe so much
31:46
that this was the correct hire, that this was as perfect of a
31:50
hire for Iowa basketball that you could make.
31:53
This is better than getting Darren Devries.
31:55
This is better than anybody else That was a realistic candidate.
31:58
This was the perfect fit. Now, that doesn't mean it's
32:01
going to work perfectly either, as we see with Wisconsin
32:03
football right now, where I think all of us thought that
32:05
Pickle was going to be the perfect fit, but I couldn't be.
32:10
I couldn't buy in anymore. Yes, I'm a Hawkeye fan, but I
32:14
didn't buy into Todd Licklider Frame McCaffrey I thought was
32:17
the right guy at the right time, but we know how that ended out.
32:20
I I think it's more than that. And you don't have, you know,
32:22
the black and gold DNA that I do can when we've talked about this
32:26
team, it just, it feels like you couldn't have come up with a
32:29
better fit than what they have with McCollum.
32:32
And they got a point guard that's going to lead them.
32:34
And I I can't wait to have the season I'm playing.
32:36
I think Trenton, I don't know how much you've got into, you
32:39
know, looking at conference overall just yet, but I think
32:44
the Big 10 is deeper this year than it's maybe been the last
32:46
couple of years. Would you go a lot?
32:48
Would you go that far? I think so, yeah.
32:50
I think that's a fair way to look at it.
32:52
And well, it's a conversation we've been having a bunch.
32:55
Is there a national championship contender?
32:58
I I don't see one right now. I even though Purdue's pre
33:01
season #1 but it's still it's Purdue and yes, they got to the
33:06
doorstep and they got to the national championship, but that
33:08
was one time and there's been so many other times where it hasn't
33:12
been close. Not just losing as a one against
33:14
the 16, but so many flame outs that they've had in the
33:16
tournament. I can't get there.
33:18
I can't see that. And maybe maybe it's my own
33:22
limitations. I just can't believe that Braden
33:24
Smith's going to be the best player in college basketball.
33:26
You know, this 5 foot 10 point guard is going to be the best
33:29
player. He's proven it the last couple
33:31
of seasons how good he is. But the depth of this
33:34
conference, you're absolutely right.
33:36
You know, there's people that are looking at a team like
33:38
Nebraska. A lot of people have Nebraska in
33:40
the tournament. I saw two different previews I
33:42
was reading over the last two days now, as I'm starting to get
33:44
into my college basketball work, they've had them 12th and 13th,
33:49
yet both of those places had them 12th and 13th and still
33:52
going to Dayton and being in the NCAA tournament.
33:55
So to your point, yeah, an incredibly deep conference.
33:58
And that's going to be important too, because we know the
34:00
difference between going 12:00 and 8:00 and 9:00 and 11:00 is
34:05
so slim. And that's the difference
34:07
between maybe being a six seed and having to go to Dayton.
34:09
It's just a couple of games like that.
34:11
This is going to sound unfair and, and I think if people have
34:15
listened over the years, they realize I, I like Fran
34:17
McCaffrey. I, I did, I like Fran McCaffrey
34:19
a lot. My guess is that this since he's
34:22
been hired, Ben McCollum has shaken more hands than Fran
34:24
McCaffrey maybe did in his entire tenure as the head coach
34:28
of I of the University of Iowa. Well, remember when Fran got
34:32
there though, I mean, they came up the get let's get mad again
34:35
for March Madness to get him back.
34:37
Yeah. And he did it initially.
34:39
It was just after 15 years. That was never his personality.
34:42
I mean, he's a Philly tough guy and it was never his
34:44
personality. But initially he did do many of
34:47
those things. So I don't know if that's
34:48
exactly fair. What I do know though is
34:50
Mccollum's taking whatever that was and taking it to another
34:53
line. I mean, he is everywhere.
34:55
You know, they have their a big get together in the community
34:58
thing coming up on Friday. I'll be interested to see here
35:01
in Iowa, the city, you know, what that looks like, what
35:03
attendance is like compared to last year's.
35:05
And I see it all the time on my daily podcast.
35:07
Ken, the numbers for Iowa women's basketball are still
35:10
there. You know, when Lichco made her
35:13
commitment, that was one of my biggest podcasts of the month.
35:16
And the fan base is still there for that.
35:19
But the men's basketball has dissipated.
35:21
So how do you build that back? Because we know wrestling is
35:24
going to sell out every single year.
35:25
Women's basketball sold out. Again, we're not talking about a
35:28
huge community here when you're talking about the Iowa City,
35:31
Cedar Rapids corridor. There's only so many people to
35:34
go around and want to make that road trip from central Iowa and
35:37
from Des Moines. You know, during the winter in
35:38
the middle of the week for 8:00 tip off.
35:40
How quickly can you build this thing back up and getting not
35:43
sellouts every single night, but knowing that you're going to
35:46
have it minimum 1213 thousand in the building every single night.
35:49
How quickly can you do that in today's environment?
35:51
And, and the student section right come to life and and show
35:55
up on a nightly basis. And are they taking steps to do
35:58
that, Trent? Absolutely.
36:01
That's what they got talked a little bit about to Bennett
36:03
about that. And yeah, they're going around,
36:05
they're they're seeing people in classes, they're driving around
36:07
in the golf cart and handing out free tickets and doing those
36:10
little things and, and being part of it, being part of the
36:13
community, not just we're basketball players that are
36:17
hired guns, you know, at the university, but really trying to
36:19
be a part of the community and, and building that back.
36:22
It's a fractured fan base. And we can argue it should have
36:26
happened earlier with Fran. Did he get a raw deal?
36:28
You can make those arguments, I think on both sides.
36:30
But the reality is the fan base had checked out.
36:33
And when they check out, what do we always say it?
36:36
It's not when they're fired up and they're pissed off and
36:38
they're they're making the phone calls.
36:39
It's when they don't care. That's when you have problems,
36:43
and the apathy definitely set into men's basketball these last
36:46
couple years. No doubt.
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What are you going to do tonight?
36:56
There are a couple of college football games.
36:58
The only baseball is back to the American League Championship
37:01
Series, where I'm guessing Seattle's a con over.
37:04
I don't know, maybe not overwhelming, but they certainly
37:06
should be favored tonight as it's Kirby against Bieber.
37:10
Your thoughts? What are you betting on tonight?
37:12
So I didn't get to a side in the game.
37:15
I would lean Blue Jays, but I thought I was going to get a
37:17
little bit better price than is actually out there.
37:20
Plus 114 right now on the Blue Jays, but not enough.
37:23
I was hoping for it. Probably about plus 125 would
37:27
have been a play on for me for the Blue Jays, but obviously
37:29
didn't get there. I do have two bets and you know
37:31
what, Mark, and I'm going to right back to the pitching
37:33
markets that have been pretty good here the last week for me.
37:36
We'll see if we can continue that.
37:38
I'm taking Shane Beanber under. I mean, it's a dire situation.
37:41
This must win, right? And though it didn't happen last
37:44
night in the Milwaukee game, I'm going right back to the well
37:46
again. Team back against the wall.
37:48
We're going under on their starting pitcher.
37:50
Under 14 1/2 outs for Shane Beaver.
37:53
And then on the other side, the strikeout total for Kirby is 4
37:56
1/2. I'm going over on that 1 -, 114
37:59
is the price over on George Kirby. 4 1/2 strikeouts there.
38:03
And then I got a college football play for you.
38:05
We hit last night outright with my Panthers of Florida
38:08
International. We're going with another doggie
38:11
tonight, Jacksonville State. They've made a change at
38:13
quarterback. They're being able to throw the
38:15
football much better. We'll grab the three at home
38:18
against Delaware. All righty, that will do it for
38:22
our coverage of Iowa men's basketball media days.
38:25
Trent's been in Iowa City. If you missed any of it, he had
38:28
Bennett Sturtz on earlier. He had Ben McCollum on earlier
38:31
in our number one. Those podcasts will be up.
38:35
Looking forward to talking to sip tomorrow a about football as
38:37
they play on Friday night. But be just what's going on.
38:40
They're kind of the pulse with Matt Rule.
38:42
We'll get Sip's thoughts on what he's hearing in Lincoln.
38:45
That should be fun. Are you hearing anything?
38:50
No, nothing on that front. What you got something
38:53
percolating under the surface? I just don't know how you can
38:56
get it. I mean, how you going to get one
38:59
of your big targets, A Signeti or somebody that's coaching and
39:02
is Amarcus Freeman? I mean, these guys are going to
39:05
the playoffs. I we'll see where it goes.
39:08
All good stuff Trent, drive back safely.
39:10
We'll see you tomorrow. We appreciate you.
39:12
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