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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. I'm
- 0:12Speaker 1: Andy Muir. The show's brought to you by Peters Genetics.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Guess what? We have sunshine down in the deep south.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Currently 13 degrees, blue sky in abundance, and how bloody
- 0:23Speaker 1: good does it feel? And looking at the forecast, it's
- 0:27Speaker 1: not too bad for the next week either. A bit
- 0:29Speaker 1: of a correction on Friday, but all things aside, I
- 0:32Speaker 1: think it's better than what it's been. Let's be honest,
- 0:35Speaker 1: that can't be hard to do. And that is the
- 0:38Speaker 1: theme for our music today at Sunshine. This one here,
- 0:41Speaker 1: Bob Marley, obviously the late Bob Marley, but it was
- 0:44Speaker 1: a song in a collaboration with Funkstar Deluxe from the
- 0:48Speaker 1: year 2000 called Sun is Shining. Hakanui's five-day forecast with
- 0:58Speaker 1: Twin Farm, Tefrom and Softex. The proof is in the progeny.
- 1:07Speaker 1: This afternoon, sunshine. I'll repeat that. Sunshine with breezy nor'westerlies
- 1:11Speaker 1: and a high of 17. Thursday, cloudy with breezy nor'westerlies,
- 1:15Speaker 1: 12 and 16. Friday, rain with breezy westerlies, 4 and 15. Saturday,
- 1:22Speaker 1: partly cloudy with light sour westerlies, 4 and 16. And
- 1:24Speaker 1: on Sunday, sunshine. We're like Westerly's 4 and 16 again.
- 1:28Speaker 1: So those temperatures are looking pretty good. And over the
- 1:31Speaker 1: next 10 days, it's looking not too bad for the
- 1:34Speaker 1: deep south at all. No soil temperatures today, so we'll
- 1:37Speaker 1: crack straight into it. James Edgar Farms at Mower Flat
- 1:41Speaker 1: talks about an extraordinary figure regarding snowfall for Mower Flat,
- 1:45Speaker 1: where he's based as well. Penny Simmons, MP from Vicargill,
- 1:50Speaker 1: we have a chinwake. For a catch-up as such, Jared
- 1:54Speaker 1: Stockman of Dairy NZ talks about the situation and just
- 1:58Speaker 1: some levers that need pulled for farmers and just talks
- 2:01Speaker 1: about what the situation's like, what they're seeing on the coalface.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Catherine Wright, she's an advocate for rural mental health, looks
- 2:09Speaker 1: at the situation and probably a bit similar to Jared
- 2:12Speaker 1: but on a bigger perspective as well about looking at
- 2:15Speaker 1: the current situation and when things do come right, looking
- 2:18Speaker 1: at the workload and putting things into perspective. And then
- 2:22Speaker 1: Sam Ruddenclaw of Mallet McLean Plus More. He's in Texas,
- 2:27Speaker 1: and we're having a catch-up, and he's talking provisional tax
- 2:30Speaker 1: while he's over there. He tells us why he's over
- 2:32Speaker 1: there as well. And it's a bit warmer than what
- 2:34Speaker 1: it's been down here in the Deep South, although that's
- 2:36Speaker 1: not hard, let's be honest. Mark Calder of PDG Wrightson
- 2:39Speaker 1: gives us a rundown on the Balclutha sale, which was
- 2:42Speaker 1: held this morning. Then we'll start the hour with James Edgar.
- 2:45Speaker 1: This is the muster, and it's brought to you by
- 2:46Speaker 1: Peters Genetics. Just gone seven after one. We're away to
- 3:03Speaker 1: West Otago this afternoon on the muster, Mower Flat to
- 3:06Speaker 1: be precise, where we catch up with James Edgar. Good afternoon, James.
- 3:10Speaker 1: We spoke to you two weeks ago. How good to
- 3:12Speaker 1: finally see the sun today?
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's... I sort of thought after the... Last
- 3:19Speaker 2: time we talked, I probably had a bit of disappointment.
- 3:22Speaker 2: But I sort of thought, oh, well, you know, we
- 3:24Speaker 2: just land for that long. Maybe that was sort of
- 3:27Speaker 2: the time we were going to get it. It certainly
- 3:30Speaker 2: hasn't stopped. I think this spring for me would be
- 3:34Speaker 2: probably the mentally hardest.
- 3:36Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 3:37Speaker 2: I farmed through 2010. That was more like a sprint.
- 3:41Speaker 2: It was a week, 10 days, and you were just going,
- 3:46Speaker 2: doing everything you could, really, and you know and then
- 3:50Speaker 2: you're absolutely buggered but then the sort of sun come
- 3:52Speaker 2: out and things didn't look as bad but to be
- 3:55Speaker 2: honest like this year it's probably been six weeks of
- 3:58Speaker 2: really hard slog and probably a shout out from the
- 4:01Speaker 2: sheep farmers I know those dairy guys like they've been
- 4:03Speaker 2: calving for a long time now and they haven't had
- 4:06Speaker 2: a break either and no I'd just say yeah she's
- 4:09Speaker 2: been a been a absolutely terrible spring this one for
- 4:12Speaker 2: us the grass growth is probably a problem going forward
- 4:17Speaker 2: but Yeah, we'll sort of set it up. Hopefully this
- 4:21Speaker 2: weather's coming right because, to be fair, there's plenty of
- 4:24Speaker 2: moisture in the soil, Andy.
- 4:25Speaker 3: There's no sign of a drought coming shortly.
- 4:28Speaker 1: You were saying just before that you've had eight snowfalls
- 4:32Speaker 1: in September. That's unbelievable.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had eight. We probably always have a snowfall. Yeah,
- 4:41Speaker 2: but that's a lot. And we haven't had the fine
- 4:43Speaker 2: days in between, like, I don't know, what have we had,
- 4:46Speaker 2: about three days of sun in the whole of September?
- 4:48Speaker 2: It's just been quite gloomy. I don't think our lamb
- 4:51Speaker 2: losses have been disastrous as opposed to some of those
- 4:55Speaker 2: other big weather events. It's just been so much wind
- 4:58Speaker 2: that's blown them over the gullies. And by the by,
- 5:02Speaker 2: I don't think our lamb drop will be massively different
- 5:05Speaker 2: to what I'd expect. But the grass covers going forward
- 5:09Speaker 2: is going to be quite a problem there. Lambs are
- 5:12Speaker 2: very muddy, like they've had enough of sitting in mud
- 5:14Speaker 2: and wet all the time. Yeah, and then we've had
- 5:19Speaker 2: a little bit of black udder already showing up in
- 5:21Speaker 2: Tapanui and there's definitely a few more lambs with like
- 5:24Speaker 2: sore feet and a few bits and pieces. But I
- 5:27Speaker 2: will say if we got 10 days of 17 degrees
- 5:30Speaker 2: of sun at the moment, it is amazing how the
- 5:32Speaker 2: farm turns around at this time of year. You know,
- 5:35Speaker 2: even when you drive around, you look at the lambs
- 5:38Speaker 2: looking good and you feel a hell of a lot better,
- 5:41Speaker 2: I know that.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you that same question, James.
- 5:44Speaker 1: How long to correct the situation as far as the
- 5:47Speaker 1: soggy ground? Because depending on where you are in the
- 5:49Speaker 1: province and you're hearing various reports around rainfall being over
- 5:54Speaker 1: 250 mils for a month, well, that's not sustainable regardless
- 5:58Speaker 1: of soil temperature.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Well, I think last September we were about 70 to
- 6:03Speaker 2: 80 mils, but it was just really cold, probably colder
- 6:07Speaker 2: than this year. And then this year here, we're heading
- 6:09Speaker 2: up to 200 mils to the bottom, so... For us,
- 6:12Speaker 2: we have an average rainfall of 950, so whatever that is,
- 6:16Speaker 2: about almost a quarter of our rain, or heading towards
- 6:20Speaker 2: a quarter of our rain in one month. We're just
- 6:23Speaker 2: not really set up for that year. It's been so unusual.
- 6:27Speaker 2: We've sort of had flooding, but I wouldn't say bad flooding,
- 6:31Speaker 2: but it's just every single day it rains. I suppose
- 6:35Speaker 2: it's been good and bad, depending how you take it,
- 6:37Speaker 2: but Yeah, the sun's come up now, Andy, so we're
- 6:42Speaker 2: just trying to flush the dunny, I suppose, of what
- 6:48Speaker 2: we've done so far. And the hoggarts are just about
- 6:50Speaker 2: to start. We're just starting to tidy up up the hill.
- 6:55Speaker 2: There's a few different things we'll do this year. We'll
- 6:56Speaker 2: definitely shed out our wet dries on the hill country
- 6:59Speaker 2: in another couple of weeks or 10 days. Just every
- 7:02Speaker 2: animal that's not eating grass, they'll disappear. so they don't
- 7:07Speaker 2: need to be there. We've got about 500 stock units
- 7:10Speaker 2: of cattle coming off Fodderbeak today, and then I've got
- 7:12Speaker 2: another 1,000 stock units coming off in about a week
- 7:15Speaker 2: or 10 days. So, yeah, we really need things to
- 7:18Speaker 2: start rattling now.
- 7:20Speaker 1: So the pressure's going to go on, given that the
- 7:22Speaker 1: winter crops are all finished. Do you have a plan
- 7:24Speaker 1: B in place if needed?
- 7:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes back to that argument. I know I
- 7:30Speaker 2: was talking to Joseph one day about winter grazing, and
- 7:34Speaker 2: the reality is... What a tool. We physically couldn't have
- 7:38Speaker 2: fed those stock units on grass in light of the
- 7:41Speaker 2: whole situation. Because I still think we've actually fed our
- 7:44Speaker 2: sheep reasonably well up to this point. So that's how
- 7:48Speaker 2: important it is to us to carry those stock units.
- 7:51Speaker 2: And I know Joseph, he was talking about dropping. Well,
- 7:55Speaker 2: he asked me when Chloe Swarbrick asked him why we
- 7:58Speaker 2: do it. I said, well, to handle the feed surplus
- 8:00Speaker 2: that should theoretically come. Because we will need those stock units. Yeah,
- 8:06Speaker 2: I'm not writing the season off just yet. Sometimes on
- 8:08Speaker 2: a sheep farm, you can actually have lowish covers. Provided
- 8:12Speaker 2: you grow away, you get a lot of clover in
- 8:13Speaker 2: the bottom and you can actually have better lambs at
- 8:17Speaker 2: weaning actually on the.
- 8:18Speaker 4: Way through and there.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Might be a few less triplets running around. So it's
- 8:22Speaker 2: all about the kilos you sell out the gate. It's
- 8:25Speaker 2: not your lambing percentage through the tailing pen sometimes. So
- 8:28Speaker 2: that's how we're just mentally readjusting our year, I suppose.
- 8:31Speaker 2: We'll probably try and take some lambs bigger. try and
- 8:35Speaker 2: get a weaning draft at that good money early on.
- 8:38Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident about the prices this year actually, which
- 8:41Speaker 2: is great.
- 8:42Speaker 1: You say it's been mentally taxing. How's it been on
- 8:44Speaker 1: the staff? How have they coped?
- 8:48Speaker 2: I think by the by we've looked after each other
- 8:50Speaker 2: pretty well to be fair. There's been a lot of
- 8:52Speaker 2: videos going around and some of those days we have
- 8:56Speaker 2: a group chat and when you see you tucked up
- 8:59Speaker 2: with your twins under a tussock bush and it's snowing
- 9:02Speaker 2: sideways but she's looking after them. Pretty amazing what those
- 9:06Speaker 2: sheep can do sometimes so we make sure we get
- 9:08Speaker 2: that on the chat. It's actually harder lambing on flat
- 9:12Speaker 2: country in my opinion because when it's all turning to
- 9:16Speaker 2: crap you're out there battling away and you can really
- 9:20Speaker 2: make a difference just by working hard but on our
- 9:23Speaker 2: hill country we just don't want bikes out there in
- 9:25Speaker 2: that weather where A, scaring all the sheep out of
- 9:28Speaker 2: shelter when they're blown over and B, it is dangerous
- 9:31Speaker 2: like If you end up having an accident on a motorbike,
- 9:36Speaker 2: that puts you out for the next six months where
- 9:38Speaker 2: you haven't really done your farm justice, have you?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Based on the season we've had and the springs previously, James,
- 9:46Speaker 1: has it got you thinking about your farming systems for
- 9:48Speaker 1: September and if you want to change anything?
- 9:52Speaker 2: That's a great question, Andy. I know there's been a
- 9:54Speaker 2: lot of talk about the lambing day. So interestingly, we've
- 9:57Speaker 2: been going the other way. So we were pulling it forward,
- 10:01Speaker 2: just trying to maximise covers going in. So we were
- 10:03Speaker 2: probably going on crop a bit earlier and then trying
- 10:05Speaker 2: to grow a bit more. And then we brung it forward.
- 10:07Speaker 2: And the reason we brung it forward was we found
- 10:10Speaker 2: when we were lambing later and then we were weaning
- 10:12Speaker 2: everything after Christmas. The problem was after Christmas, because you've
- 10:16Speaker 2: got all your ewes and all your lambs stocked, right
- 10:18Speaker 2: up to that period. Quite often, you know, you have
- 10:21Speaker 2: very low grass covers or, you know, just enough.
- 10:23Speaker 5: 1,200, 1,400.
- 10:23Speaker 2: And then we found if, you know, heading straight into
- 10:27Speaker 2: our traditionally dry time, so you just didn't have the
- 10:31Speaker 2: time to grow the grass covers for your summer and
- 10:33Speaker 2: set your autumn up, if that makes sense. So, yeah,
- 10:38Speaker 2: it was a catch-22, so we've been bringing it forward,
- 10:40Speaker 2: and then now we wean probably two-thirds, or at least half,
- 10:45Speaker 2: two-thirds of our sheep, even at Moa Flat before Christmas.
- 10:48Speaker 2: sort of just that week before Christmas. And then that
- 10:50Speaker 2: just allows us, while there's still moisture in the soil,
- 10:53Speaker 2: to get those ewes mobbed up, not eating grass. And
- 10:56Speaker 2: then quite often our lambs are going on a lot
- 10:58Speaker 2: of lamb fattening grass. And then it just allows us
- 11:01Speaker 2: to grow a feed buffer for the summer and the
- 11:03Speaker 2: next autumn. So this is something you've got to watch.
- 11:07Speaker 2: If you're dragging it back all the time, you do
- 11:09Speaker 2: run into, later in the season, you can run into,
- 11:13Speaker 2: you know, growing less grass, I guess. And the other
- 11:16Speaker 2: thing to be aware of is the grass quality drops
- 11:19Speaker 2: when you start going to seed as well. So as
- 11:22Speaker 2: I say, even where we are now, if we actually
- 11:25Speaker 2: got 10 days or a couple of weeks of just
- 11:27Speaker 2: cranking weather, like the clover and the grass quality on
- 11:31Speaker 2: the sheep farm would just be phenomenal. So yeah, those
- 11:34Speaker 2: are just a couple of things we've found. We've actually
- 11:37Speaker 2: found we've been getting probably more lambs away at weeding
- 11:41Speaker 2: before Christmas just because that grass quality is still better
- 11:44Speaker 2: and the lambs have got a bit, no, just more
- 11:47Speaker 2: sappy is what they call it. But yeah, just fatter
- 11:50Speaker 2: because the ewes are still milking a bit more and
- 11:53Speaker 2: I suppose the lambs are a little bit younger, but yeah,
- 11:56Speaker 2: and the grass quality is sort of a bit higher.
- 11:58Speaker 2: So a combination of those reasons, Andy. So it's one
- 12:01Speaker 2: thing with the biological system, I suppose. You know, on
- 12:04Speaker 2: a farm, you've got to set it up to, and
- 12:06Speaker 2: everything you do has got a consequence some other way,
- 12:08Speaker 2: doesn't it?
- 12:10Speaker 1: Good on you, James. Thanks for your time. Great to
- 12:12Speaker 1: see the sun. Long may it last.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Yeah, fingers crossed, Andy, for about two weeks of 20 degrees,
- 12:18Speaker 2: because that's what I'm banking on.
- 12:23Speaker 1: James Edgar of Mower Flat. This is the muster on Hokonui.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Up next, Penny Simmons, MP for Invercargill.
- 12:31Speaker 3: MUSIC PLAYS.
- 12:43Speaker 1: This is the muster. Penny Simmons is MP for Invercargill
- 12:47Speaker 1: and joins us next from a sun-drenched Invercargill, which is
- 12:51Speaker 1: something we haven't said for a long time, Penny. Good afternoon.
- 12:54Speaker 5: Good afternoon, and oh, by golly, isn't it good to
- 12:57Speaker 5: see that sunshine? It's just going to do wonders for everyone,
- 13:00Speaker 5: for our peace of mind, our mental well-being, as well
- 13:07Speaker 5: as warming the lambs up, warming the soil up a bit, hopefully,
- 13:11Speaker 5: if we can get enough days of it, as I've
- 13:13Speaker 5: been driving around. And I haven't been back that long,
- 13:16Speaker 5: I'd have to say. I haven't suffered through all the
- 13:19Speaker 5: weather that everyone else has, and I certainly haven't been
- 13:21Speaker 5: outside in it. when I have been here, but just
- 13:26Speaker 5: a bit of sunshine, it brings just a bit of
- 13:28Speaker 5: hope to people, doesn't it? And I know driving around,
- 13:32Speaker 5: seeing the paddocks looking grey and the lambs looking miserable,
- 13:36Speaker 5: it's very... It's very tough going for everyone. So yes,
- 13:39Speaker 5: long may we continue with a bit of warmer weather
- 13:43Speaker 5: as well as sunshine would be good. But also on
- 13:46Speaker 5: the good news front has been the Treasury's pre-election forecast
- 13:52Speaker 5: update saying that books are better than expected. And much
- 13:58Speaker 5: of that, of course, is down to our wonderful primary
- 14:00Speaker 5: sector that have been doing the hard work and getting
- 14:04Speaker 5: the good export prices and paying taxes. So thank you
- 14:08Speaker 5: very much to all our farmers and growers. So Treasury
- 14:13Speaker 5: is predicting that the deficits are getting smaller, the surplus
- 14:16Speaker 5: is coming, there's going to be less debt, less debt
- 14:21Speaker 5: servicing costs, because as I've said on this programme regularly,
- 14:25Speaker 5: we're paying over $ 9 billion a year in interest alone.
- 14:31Speaker 5: And the economy is predicted to be growing at an
- 14:35Speaker 5: average of 2.6% a year. That's going to translate into
- 14:40Speaker 5: 220,000 more jobs being created as the economy grows. And
- 14:45Speaker 5: we know it from down here, our unemployment is lower.
- 14:50Speaker 5: We've had the third best economic growth in the country
- 14:53Speaker 5: behind Canterbury and Taranaki and then Southland with 7%. 7%
- 14:58Speaker 5: growth and our unemployment, of course, is lower than the
- 15:02Speaker 5: rest of the country. And one of the other really
- 15:05Speaker 5: positive predictions, wages will rise faster than prices. Now, that
- 15:10Speaker 5: means that inflation is not going to be eating away
- 15:15Speaker 5: at people's earnings to the same degree. So, look, it
- 15:19Speaker 5: is positive. The downside of this is, of course, that
- 15:24Speaker 5: a positive announcement like that will mean there will be
- 15:27Speaker 5: some political parties who will go out who have a
- 15:31Speaker 5: tendency to spend anyway and thinking that this is the
- 15:34Speaker 5: time they can have a bit more of a spend up,
- 15:36Speaker 5: and it certainly isn't. We need to keep that government
- 15:40Speaker 5: spending discipline in place because there's a whole lot of
- 15:44Speaker 5: things that could change the geopolitical situation in the Middle East,
- 15:51Speaker 5: the oil price of oil and therefore the price of
- 15:53Speaker 5: diesel and petrol spending, could have a big impact on this.
- 15:57Speaker 5: So look, it's positive, but it certainly isn't an excuse
- 16:01Speaker 5: for any party to go out promising big spend-ups on
- 16:05Speaker 5: the back of it.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I'll let you take a breath, Penny, and I'll ask
- 16:08Speaker 1: you this. Based on the South driving the economy of
- 16:11Speaker 1: these figures, and this is something I've asked you previously
- 16:14Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask you again, are we going
- 16:16Speaker 1: to get any more than 12% of the roading budget
- 16:18Speaker 1: for the South Island?
- 16:20Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm pushing hard on it and I'm hopeful
- 16:24Speaker 5: that I might have a wee announcement soon. But no,
- 16:27Speaker 5: we haven't got our share.
- 16:28Speaker 4: You're quite right.
- 16:29Speaker 5: We haven't got our share of the roading and Transport
- 16:37Speaker 5: Authority funding. There's no doubt about it. The problem is
- 16:42Speaker 5: that our roads are in better order than those that
- 16:46Speaker 5: have been affected, particularly around the far north with flooding
- 16:50Speaker 5: and also around Hawke's Bay. And then, of course, we
- 16:54Speaker 5: have Auckland's congestion and nobody likes our money going to
- 16:58Speaker 5: Auckland and I certainly don't like our money going to Auckland.
- 17:03Speaker 5: So we have to keep fighting against it. But I'll
- 17:07Speaker 5: just put in context that we've got about two thirds
- 17:13Speaker 5: of New Zealand's population affected sitting in that golden triangle
- 17:17Speaker 5: of Auckland, Hamilton and Tauranga. So it's a bit of
- 17:21Speaker 5: a battle against the big numbers of the population up
- 17:24Speaker 5: there and, of course, the number of MPs representing them. But, yep,
- 17:30Speaker 5: I need to keep fighting it. You're absolutely right. And
- 17:33Speaker 5: both Joseph and I are squeaky wheels. and hopefully we'll
- 17:38Speaker 5: get some announcements that we can give you.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Well, all the populations based up north, I understand that,
- 17:43Speaker 1: but we pay our taxes too. We pay the same
- 17:45Speaker 1: for road users.
- 17:47Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely. There's no doubt about it. We do not
- 17:50Speaker 5: get our share of funding back. There's no qualms about that.
- 17:54Speaker 5: We don't, and I'm not going to try and defend that.
- 17:58Speaker 5: All I can say is that there is a lot
- 18:01Speaker 5: of pressure on the funding going into those areas that
- 18:05Speaker 5: have had a lot of disruption with flooding over a
- 18:09Speaker 5: number of years. And those of you who have driven
- 18:12Speaker 5: around the Hawke's Bay, over to Wairoa, up around the
- 18:15Speaker 5: far north, some of those goat tracks are pretty awful
- 18:19Speaker 5: for people to be driving on. But I absolutely accept
- 18:23Speaker 5: that we are a productive part of the country and
- 18:27Speaker 5: our roading not being kept up to standard is going
- 18:33Speaker 5: to affect our productivity.
- 18:35Speaker 1: So you're back in Invercargill, the parliamentary year's finished as such,
- 18:38Speaker 1: and all roads lead to November, I suppose?
- 18:42Speaker 5: Yeah, so I got back here Sunday night, and most
- 18:48Speaker 5: of my days are going to be down here. I've
- 18:49Speaker 5: got a couple of things that we still have to
- 18:52Speaker 5: do a few things as Minister, still have to... keep
- 18:56Speaker 5: our officials working up there. We don't want everyone up
- 18:59Speaker 5: in Wellington to have six weeks holiday, that's for sure.
- 19:03Speaker 5: So we've still got work going on there. But yeah,
- 19:07Speaker 5: mainly down here. Been out with the grandkids, a bit
- 19:11Speaker 5: of slave labour, delivering flyers over the last few days.
- 19:14Speaker 5: And I'll be doing that around the place, delivering.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Flyers, knocking on doors, Kissing babies?
- 19:22Speaker 5: Well, yes. Not too much of that, but certainly talking
- 19:28Speaker 5: to people and finding out what their issues are.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Penny Simmons, always appreciate your time on The Muster. Enjoy
- 19:33Speaker 1: the sun.
- 19:35Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Bye.
- 19:36Speaker 1: The bright days are here. Penny Simmons, MP for Invercargill.
- 19:40Speaker 1: This is The Muster on Hokunui. Dairy NZ's Jarrod Stockman
- 19:45Speaker 1: is up next. Welcome back to the muster on Hokunui.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Jarrod Stockman joins us of Dairy NZ. Good afternoon, Jarrod. Finally,
- 20:04Speaker 1: some sunshine. Long may it last.
- 20:08Speaker 6: Yeah, Andy, fingers crossed. Good song. Let's just cover Southland
- 20:12Speaker 6: Sunshine for two weeks, please.
- 20:15Speaker 1: OK, we've had a lot of rain over the previous
- 20:18Speaker 1: four weeks, even longer, arguably, which is the case. How
- 20:23Speaker 1: are people coping? What are you guys seeing?
- 20:27Speaker 6: Look, to be fair, I haven't seen so many farmers
- 20:32Speaker 6: down in the dumps. And look, with good reason, you know,
- 20:36Speaker 6: facing challenging conditions for a prolonged period of weather just
- 20:41Speaker 6: affects morale, you know, animal health, the effluent management, the
- 20:46Speaker 6: list goes on and on. So, yeah, I think farmers are,
- 20:51Speaker 6: you know, definitely flat. Today will be a good day
- 20:55Speaker 6: to lift the spirits and, you know, long-range forecast. Dare
- 21:00Speaker 6: I say it, potentially a bit of respite there for,
- 21:04Speaker 6: for 10 days, but hey, we've still got, you know,
- 21:08Speaker 6: we've still got a bit of weather to come on Friday,
- 21:10Speaker 6: I think, but yeah, yeah, it's pretty flat.
- 21:14Speaker 1: So is the feed situation, which is forefront of mind?
- 21:19Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. Two areas, you know, concentrates levels seem
- 21:24Speaker 6: to be holding up pretty well. Challenges around logistics, because
- 21:30Speaker 6: everyone's asking for, you know, palm kernel and grains and
- 21:33Speaker 6: DDG and, and all that sort of stuff. But, um,
- 21:36Speaker 6: you know, silage and baleage is, uh, just, you know,
- 21:40Speaker 6: almost out. Um, you know, so we, we've got some
- 21:45Speaker 6: challenges in that space. Um, and then, you know, cows
- 21:48Speaker 6: going onto pastures with a low cover, you know, pretty
- 21:52Speaker 6: rank looking grass out there as well. So, um, yeah,
- 21:55Speaker 6: we've got some, definitely some emerging issues in that, in
- 21:58Speaker 6: that feed space. And then that just flows through to
- 22:01Speaker 6: animal health, particularly with, um, You know, lameness, mastitis, you know,
- 22:09Speaker 6: got everything leading into mating, cow condition. So, yeah, there's
- 22:14Speaker 6: a lot of things front of mind for farmers at
- 22:16Speaker 6: the moment.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Have the cows taken much of a check with the
- 22:20Speaker 1: weather lately?
- 22:22Speaker 6: Yeah, they have. Look, I think that the guys that
- 22:25Speaker 6: have kept the feed up to sort of 20 kilos,
- 22:30Speaker 6: you know, if they can get it up that high,
- 22:33Speaker 6: have been all right with supply, but we're hearing a
- 22:35Speaker 6: lot of reports from farmers looking to create once a
- 22:39Speaker 6: day herds. Some farmers might have to pull the trigger
- 22:42Speaker 6: and go once a day right through to the end
- 22:45Speaker 6: of mating because you don't want to transition cows back
- 22:48Speaker 6: to twice a day during mating. So yeah, I think
- 22:51Speaker 6: this next few weeks is really about protecting cow condition
- 22:58Speaker 6: leading into mating because that's kind of next season that
- 23:03Speaker 6: you're thinking about. So, yeah, there's a lot to think
- 23:05Speaker 6: about in that space.
- 23:06Speaker 1: You talk about supplement levels being low in the south.
- 23:09Speaker 1: What about further afield?
- 23:12Speaker 6: Look, I think there's... I was actually talking to someone
- 23:16Speaker 6: this morning in Canterbury, and I think there's feed up
- 23:21Speaker 6: in Canterbury. I guess there's, you know, farmers up there
- 23:24Speaker 6: are probably thinking about what do we need for ourselves during.
- 23:29Speaker 6: During the summer and stuff with potential El Nino risks.
- 23:34Speaker 6: But I think the big challenge is trying to get
- 23:38Speaker 6: it down here because freight's the real killer if trucks
- 23:42Speaker 6: are going up empty. You're paying freight both ways. So
- 23:47Speaker 6: I don't necessarily think that the bailage cost itself on
- 23:50Speaker 6: the ground is.
- 23:53Speaker 6: Is outside of the realms of what it should be,
- 23:56Speaker 6: but it's just, you know, you're probably paying $ 80 a
- 23:59Speaker 6: bale for freight if trucks are going up empty.
- 24:03Speaker 1: So if there's government assistance along the line anywhere, you
- 24:06Speaker 1: suggest it would be needed for infrastructure or as such
- 24:09Speaker 1: getting this baleage and supplement down to the south, would
- 24:12Speaker 1: that be a better use of money?
- 24:16Speaker 6: Look, yeah, it's hard to know what the midget bullock
- 24:21Speaker 6: looks like, but I think a lot of farmers might
- 24:26Speaker 6: be interested in topping up their supplement at the moment
- 24:32Speaker 6: just to, you know, just even to balance out the
- 24:35Speaker 6: concentrate feed that cows are eating and just reduce the
- 24:39Speaker 6: risks around acidosis and things like that.
- 24:41Speaker 1: How are farmers doing in general from what you're hearing, Jared? Look,
- 24:43Speaker 1: I spoke to James Edgar earlier on. He's a sheep
- 24:46Speaker 1: cocky and mower flat. He's had eight snowfalls for the
- 24:48Speaker 1: month for Pete's sake. But he just seemed to, he
- 24:51Speaker 1: just talked about social media and the good stuff there,
- 24:55Speaker 1: being in groups with mates, with your workmates and just
- 24:58Speaker 1: sharing the positives, the mindset out there. How are people doing?
- 25:02Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think that's the key, is talking to
- 25:05Speaker 6: your neighbours and advisors and things like that. Like, this
- 25:07Speaker 6: is not something that you need to carry alone. And
- 25:10Speaker 6: often it can just be, you know, a bit of
- 25:12Speaker 6: a pick-me-up from a mate or, you know, a bit
- 25:15Speaker 6: of a laugh and stuff like that. I think that's
- 25:18Speaker 6: really important for, you know, it's really easy to go
- 25:24Speaker 6: down a bit of a rabbit hole, put the blinkers
- 25:26Speaker 6: on and just focus on, you know, what's in front
- 25:29Speaker 6: of you. But, um, really important for farmers, you know,
- 25:32Speaker 6: where it's possible, take a bit of a break. There's
- 25:35Speaker 6: heaps of events that are going around, run with, um,
- 25:38Speaker 6: run by rural support trusts and stakeholders. Um, we've joined
- 25:42Speaker 6: with Beef and Lamb to do some, uh, some joint events, um,
- 25:45Speaker 6: you know, recognising that, hey, it's not just, not just
- 25:48Speaker 6: the dairy guys doing it tough. The, um, The one
- 25:52Speaker 6: man being a sheep and beef operator, he's flat out
- 25:58Speaker 6: doing lambing beets and struggling to keep lambs and stuff
- 26:01Speaker 6: alive as well. So I think it's really important just to,
- 26:05Speaker 6: if there's an opportunity to get off farm for an
- 26:07Speaker 6: hour or two, grab a bite to eat, have a
- 26:11Speaker 6: drink or a cup of tea and just.
- 26:15Speaker 6: Pick up the tips and tricks from your neighbours and
- 26:18Speaker 6: friends and stuff like that and just try and keep
- 26:20Speaker 6: your head up. This will pass, but yeah, it can
- 26:26Speaker 6: be hard to see beyond a day or two at
- 26:29Speaker 6: the moment.
- 26:30Speaker 1: You're encouraging farmers to get in touch with the team
- 26:33Speaker 1: if need be, Jared?
- 26:34Speaker 6: Yeah, 100%. Our team are obviously there to support farmers
- 26:39Speaker 6: and again, it might be just bouncing off an idea
- 26:43Speaker 6: or They might be just saying, hey, this is what
- 26:45Speaker 6: I'm doing. Is there anything else I should be looking at?
- 26:49Speaker 6: Once you start verbalising that, I think farmers kind of
- 26:53Speaker 6: know what the message is, but sometimes they just might
- 26:56Speaker 6: want just a bit of a helping hand or a
- 26:58Speaker 6: wee tip or trick here just to help out. So, yeah,
- 27:04Speaker 6: keen for them to reach out to their team, to
- 27:06Speaker 6: our team at Daring Dead or their farm consultant or
- 27:10Speaker 6: neighbour or Trust the advisor, but, yeah, certainly our team
- 27:15Speaker 6: are keen to help out in whatever capacity they can.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Wise words today, Jared. Thanks for your time.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Cheers, Andy.
- 27:22Speaker 6: All the best, mate.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Jared Stockman of Dairy NZ with some relevant words too
- 27:29Speaker 1: regarding the situation. And taking a bit of a break,
- 27:32Speaker 1: our next guest will be able to talk about this
- 27:34Speaker 1: better than anybody. Her name is Catherine Wright. She specialises
- 27:37Speaker 1: in rural mental health. She's up next. The sunshine of
- 27:48Speaker 1: my life. Welcome back to the muster on Hokonui. Catherine
- 27:55Speaker 1: Wright joins us next. She is a counsellor who specialises
- 27:59Speaker 1: in rural mental health. She's had a PhD submitted recently,
- 28:03Speaker 1: or about to be submitted, regarding the health, the mental
- 28:08Speaker 1: health in young rural people. Catherine, good afternoon. It's good
- 28:12Speaker 1: to have a bit of blue sky finally.
- 28:15Speaker 7: It is so good to see the sun, Andy. I
- 28:17Speaker 7: can't deny that.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Just changes the mood. Even just having some sun when
- 28:22Speaker 1: you're going about your job after what has been called shit-temper.
- 28:27Speaker 1: And I think we can say that because that's pretty
- 28:29Speaker 1: much what we've been doubt.
- 28:31Speaker 7: Absolutely. It's been really tough going. I think that what
- 28:36Speaker 7: makes it even worse is that it comes right at
- 28:39Speaker 7: the end of winter. It's almost like that sucker punch season.
- 28:42Speaker 7: just as you're getting to the end when things should,
- 28:44Speaker 7: I say in quotation marks, should be getting better. And
- 28:47Speaker 7: I think if that kind of weather carry-on happened near
- 28:50Speaker 7: the start of the winter, I think that it would
- 28:52Speaker 7: be a bit easier to take.
- 28:54Speaker 1: With your councillor's hat on here, Catherine, as well as
- 28:57Speaker 1: your farming hat too, I mean, you look at the
- 28:59Speaker 1: situation that farmers are facing at the moment, it can
- 29:02Speaker 1: be easy to get overwhelmed regarding workload.
- 29:05Speaker 6: Absolutely.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 29:08Speaker 7: And, you know, we've had this conversation once or twice before, Andy. Unfortunately,
- 29:13Speaker 7: this is not our first rodeo, but I'm going to
- 29:16Speaker 7: say basically the same things as I've said in the
- 29:19Speaker 7: past because they've proven to be true. So first of all,
- 29:23Speaker 7: I want you to think about touch points on the calendar.
- 29:25Speaker 7: So I know it's hard to get away. It's hard
- 29:28Speaker 7: to get off. Some people do have someone that can
- 29:31Speaker 7: kind of take over the reins. But if you don't,
- 29:33Speaker 7: even an evening out, having your neighbours out for morning tea,
- 29:38Speaker 7: something that you can actually look forward to because connection
- 29:41Speaker 7: is actually something that will help you to regulate. It
- 29:44Speaker 7: will help you to shoulder the frustrations of this crappy weather.
- 29:50Speaker 7: Don't underestimate it. Don't forget about your basic needs as
- 29:54Speaker 7: well while you're going through this. So A lot of
- 29:57Speaker 7: farming is automated now, but remember that you do need
- 30:00Speaker 7: to move your body as part of holistic health, mental
- 30:03Speaker 7: health care. So whether that's walking, running, lifting weights, bike riding,
- 30:07Speaker 7: whatever it is you like to do. Also looking at
- 30:10Speaker 7: what you're eating and also how's your sleep? How can
- 30:15Speaker 7: you address that? But the biggest thing I think is
- 30:19Speaker 7: to look at acceptance. So there's Doesn't mean liking it
- 30:24Speaker 7: or agreeing it. It's just saying, right, the weather's going
- 30:27Speaker 7: to do what it's going to do. And whether or
- 30:30Speaker 7: not you're angry about it, it's not going to change it.
- 30:33Speaker 7: So it's just going, yep, okay, that's happening. It's going
- 30:37Speaker 7: to be that way. What can I now put my
- 30:40Speaker 7: focus on, if that makes sense?
- 30:42Speaker 1: Now, a lot of events are happening around the province.
- 30:44Speaker 1: I'll talk about these shortly, but a few people commenting
- 30:48Speaker 1: online last night say, well, these events are all well
- 30:51Speaker 1: and good, but if I get off the farm, that
- 30:54Speaker 1: just puts me behind the eight ball because I've got
- 30:56Speaker 1: a lot to do and I don't have time to
- 30:58Speaker 1: go and attend these events. What do you say to that?
- 31:01Speaker 7: It's a double-edged sword, isn't it? I guess it depends
- 31:06Speaker 7: on how long you're taking off. So if it's just
- 31:08Speaker 7: an evening, you're not going to be doing anything in the.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Evening, probably.
- 31:12Speaker 7: I think that the payoff would be far better than
- 31:16Speaker 7: the sacrifice that you're willing to make. If it is
- 31:19Speaker 7: going away for a day or two, yep, that's really hard.
- 31:23Speaker 7: But please don't write it off before you've tried it.
- 31:26Speaker 7: So if you can get somebody to look out for
- 31:29Speaker 7: the farm or to double feed or do whatever you
- 31:32Speaker 7: have to do, just maybe there is a chance that
- 31:35Speaker 7: you might feel more able to take on the stresses
- 31:38Speaker 7: if you've been able to let off some steam.
- 31:40Speaker 1: You talk about diet. At this time of year, it's
- 31:42Speaker 1: too easy just to chuck a pie in the microwave
- 31:44Speaker 1: and that's your feet.
- 31:47Speaker 7: Yep, don't underestimate it. So people are always surprised when
- 31:50Speaker 7: I ask them about this. So we know that a
- 31:55Speaker 7: lot of our neurotransmitters that are made in the gut
- 31:57Speaker 7: do help us with mood regulations. And so you can
- 32:01Speaker 7: imagine that if you're having a Jimmy's and a V
- 32:03Speaker 7: for breakfast, you're probably not going to feel that good.
- 32:06Speaker 7: If you can try to eat a little bit better, yes,
- 32:10Speaker 7: that might be some preps the night before, it will
- 32:14Speaker 7: absolutely pay off. You will not regret looking after yourself
- 32:17Speaker 7: in this way.
- 32:19Speaker 1: When you look at the season that's ahead of us,
- 32:21Speaker 1: October in particular, I mean, tractor work, there hasn't been
- 32:24Speaker 1: any tractor out in the paddock hardly. I've seen a
- 32:26Speaker 1: couple of paddocks, but... let's be honest, so I probably
- 32:29Speaker 1: worked up a few weeks back now. You've just got
- 32:32Speaker 1: to put things into perspective, I suppose, as well. Catherine,
- 32:34Speaker 1: what are your words around this?
- 32:36Speaker 7: Yeah, so the tractor work kind of comes with its
- 32:39Speaker 7: own set of issues from my experience, and that is
- 32:43Speaker 7: that when you're doing something for long hours and it's
- 32:45Speaker 7: very repetitive, you can get stuck in your own head
- 32:48Speaker 7: and in your own thoughts, and that's pretty normal. Yes,
- 32:52Speaker 7: you can do things to kind of ping yourself out
- 32:55Speaker 7: of that or reset things. It could be podcasts, it
- 32:57Speaker 7: could be music, but there are ways to come out
- 33:01Speaker 7: of that. What I would like to suggest to people
- 33:05Speaker 7: is a little tiny exercise, if that's okay. What I
- 33:08Speaker 7: would like you to do is to imagine for a
- 33:10Speaker 7: moment that you are actually working in an office. This
- 33:14Speaker 7: is your job. You work in an office. You sit
- 33:16Speaker 7: there every day and you look out onto farmland and
- 33:21Speaker 7: you see the weather change, you see bad days, you
- 33:23Speaker 7: see good days, but you can't get out there because
- 33:26Speaker 7: your job is inside. I want you to think about
- 33:28Speaker 7: what that would be like and what your general, I guess,
- 33:34Speaker 7: feeling of working outside would be. Would it be something
- 33:37Speaker 7: that you would like, no matter if you had to
- 33:41Speaker 7: deal with the good and the bad, or would you
- 33:43Speaker 7: prefer to be stuck inside? And if you are willing
- 33:46Speaker 7: to take the bag with the good, I think that's
- 33:48Speaker 7: your answer. And that's why you farm. And don't forget that,
- 33:51Speaker 7: I think.
- 33:51Speaker 1: So perspective comes into it at the moment?
- 33:54Speaker 7: Absolutely. Perspective is everything.
- 33:57Speaker 1: How do you get that work-life balance, though, when things
- 34:00Speaker 1: are busy? What do you do?
- 34:03Speaker 7: I think that it's something that fluctuates all the time. So, yes,
- 34:08Speaker 7: on farm you do have to fluctuate in terms what
- 34:11Speaker 7: hours you're putting in, and sometimes you're busier than others,
- 34:15Speaker 7: and we know that. So the work-life balance is not
- 34:18Speaker 7: going to be a completely symmetrical idea, I think. It
- 34:25Speaker 7: can continually be assessed. Maybe if you've spent all October
- 34:29Speaker 7: in a tractor, maybe there's another month that you can think, right, okay,
- 34:34Speaker 7: I'm not as busy then. Maybe there's weaning going on,
- 34:37Speaker 7: but there's not a lot else. Maybe you can put
- 34:39Speaker 7: in time. And I don't even mean getting off farm.
- 34:42Speaker 7: Maybe it's just being with your kids, doing something with them.
- 34:46Speaker 7: Maybe it's going away with friends or whatever it is.
- 34:49Speaker 7: But it's got to even out somewhere. But I think
- 34:52Speaker 7: that you would get into a trap if you thought
- 34:55Speaker 7: that you had to every day have a work-life balance.
- 34:59Speaker 7: You can't have that on a farm. I get it.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Yeah, wise words as always, Catherine. Just finally, how's your
- 35:05Speaker 1: PhD been going?
- 35:07Speaker 7: Oh, it's going great. I submit officially in about three weeks.
- 35:11Speaker 7: So I'm really looking forward to that. Lots of findings.
- 35:14Speaker 7: So my topic is actually rural community connection and mental
- 35:18Speaker 7: health and land use change. So farm to forestry conversions
- 35:22Speaker 7: and how that.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Affects people socially.
- 35:25Speaker 7: So there's a lot going to come out about that.
- 35:28Speaker 7: I just can't do much until it's been peer reviewed.
- 35:30Speaker 2: So we have to be patient.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Well, it's the same old story. You can't eat pine trees, Catherine, right?
- 35:35Speaker 1: Thanks for your time as always.
- 35:37Speaker 7: No worries. Thanks, Andy.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Catherine Wright. Yeah, there's quite a few events happening around
- 35:44Speaker 1: the region. Transport Service is limited to holding events over
- 35:48Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Waikaka, they're having a weather
- 35:52Speaker 1: shout for the district there on Friday the 2nd of October,
- 35:55Speaker 1: starting at 11.30. And the beef and lamb events as well,
- 35:58Speaker 1: the spring shout's getting underway this evening at 5 o'clock
- 36:02Speaker 1: at the Tokanui Rugby Club, and then tomorrow at Central
- 36:04Speaker 1: Pirates Rugby Club at Walsons Crossing. And there's a number
- 36:07Speaker 1: of events that are occurring around the region as well, so...
- 36:10Speaker 1: If you get the opportunity, the weather's looking not too
- 36:12Speaker 1: bad for a couple of days, go and have a
- 36:14Speaker 1: snag and have a chinwag with people. Sam Ruddenclaw is
- 36:17Speaker 1: up next of Mallet McLean plus more in Texas, of
- 36:21Speaker 1: all places.
- 36:21Speaker 3: Oh, my.
- 36:22Speaker 6: For me.
- 36:23Speaker 1: If you still must touch on. Making sure I'm not
- 36:29Speaker 1: in too deep. If you still must touch on.
- 36:32Speaker 7: Keep me first.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Steal My Sunshine by Len. The theme today is sun
- 36:37Speaker 1: because we've got some finally. You're listening to The Muster.
- 36:40Speaker 1: We're away over to Texas next to catch up with
- 36:43Speaker 1: Sam Ruddenclaw of Mallet McLean Plus More. Good afternoon, Sam.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Talking provisional tax to somebody from Texas isn't something I've
- 36:51Speaker 1: done every day. How's things?
- 36:54Speaker 3: All good, Andy. Yeah, and it's certainly not something that
- 36:57Speaker 3: I've done either. And hard to hear... I've been here
- 37:02Speaker 3: for 10 days and we've had 40-plus degree weather. It's
- 37:06Speaker 3: currently 5.30 in the afternoon and it's 32 degrees, so
- 37:11Speaker 3: it's hard to comprehend what it's like at home. I've
- 37:15Speaker 3: got a lot of guys on the trip with me
- 37:17Speaker 3: that's from Gorge Road and just talking to them about
- 37:20Speaker 3: production and what's happening there. It certainly seems like it's
- 37:23Speaker 3: been a tough run from a weather perspective, which... It
- 37:27Speaker 3: impacts production, impacts feed costs, impacts fertiliser. So there's lots
- 37:32Speaker 3: of impacts there happening at the moment that will flow
- 37:37Speaker 3: on into provisional tax for dairy farmers or for made
- 37:40Speaker 3: balance dates, which is 28th of October. So just, yeah,
- 37:42Speaker 3: making sure that guys are thinking about that, updating their
- 37:46Speaker 3: production numbers, and just looking at the cost side of
- 37:50Speaker 3: their business and just making sure that tax is going
- 37:53Speaker 3: to be sort of in the ballpark of where they
- 37:56Speaker 3: need to be.
- 37:57Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly been a trying September, as you would
- 37:59Speaker 1: have seen when you were over here a couple of
- 38:01Speaker 1: weeks ago, Sam. You're due home later on this week,
- 38:04Speaker 1: but it has been an interesting September. But like I say,
- 38:07Speaker 1: sunshine today certainly changes the mood. But the big question is,
- 38:10Speaker 1: why are you over in Texas?
- 38:14Speaker 3: So there's 19 of us travelled over to represent New
- 38:18Speaker 3: Zealand in the International Precision Rifle Federation World Championships, so
- 38:24Speaker 3: the IPRF World Championships. They were held... about an hour
- 38:28Speaker 3: and a half west of Fort Worth, Texas. So, yeah,
- 38:32Speaker 3: 19 of us just finished shooting, well, the closing ceremony
- 38:35Speaker 3: was yesterday, and, yeah, along with 32 total supporters and stuff,
- 38:41Speaker 3: so it's been a great event.
- 38:45Speaker 1: You've done pistol shooting for quite a while, though.
- 38:48Speaker 3: Rifle shooting?
- 38:49Speaker 1: Rifle shooting, sorry.
- 38:51Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been sort of evolved from hunting...
- 38:56Speaker 3: and just an enjoyment of long-range shooting. And then, yeah,
- 38:59Speaker 3: just got into the competitive side. It's one of those
- 39:03Speaker 3: things I quite enjoy. Well, it's quite analytical, I guess,
- 39:07Speaker 3: so a little bit of a light-night day job, but
- 39:09Speaker 3: also it's something that's quite different as well, so it
- 39:12Speaker 3: gets me away from the office. And someone once told me,
- 39:15Speaker 3: some wise person once told me to de-stress yourself from
- 39:17Speaker 3: the office. You've got to re-stress yourself doing something else,
- 39:20Speaker 3: so that's what I'm doing currently.
- 39:22Speaker 1: De-stress to re-stress, that's an interesting say. Describe Texas Forest then,
- 39:26Speaker 1: because we hear about everything being bigger and bolder there.
- 39:30Speaker 3: That's a very true statement. It is, well, we've been
- 39:35Speaker 3: to a few big sporting goods stores that are absolutely enormous.
- 39:39Speaker 3: For example, we're in one over there called Shell's, which
- 39:42Speaker 3: has got a Ferris wheel inside. That's like three stories tall. Massive, big...
- 39:49Speaker 3: aquarium with live fish, waterfalls, all sorts of stuff. It's just, yeah,
- 39:55Speaker 3: it's really hard to believe unless you come here. And
- 39:59Speaker 3: big vehicles. Yes, it's actually a really cool experience, to
- 40:05Speaker 3: be fair.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Would you say life's prosperous over there at the moment
- 40:08Speaker 1: for its citizens?
- 40:11Speaker 3: It's a bit of a mixed bag, actually. Like, for example...
- 40:15Speaker 3: I did some rough calculations just on the road today
- 40:18Speaker 3: just around the cost of some groceries and fuel and
- 40:21Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So ribeye steak in the supermarket
- 40:27Speaker 3: is $ 28 a pound, which works out roughly at the
- 40:29Speaker 3: moment in New Zealand dollars, $ 112 a kilo. Where chicken's
- 40:34Speaker 3: between $ 4 and $ 5 a pound, so that's about $ 12
- 40:36Speaker 3: a kilo. Sorry, $ 20 a kilo. So there's a big
- 40:38Speaker 3: difference there in some of that cost.
- 40:39Speaker 8: Petrol's... $ 1. 70 to $ 1. 85, depending on grade. And diesel is
- 40:52Speaker 8: about $ 2.
- 40:52Speaker 3: 90. So it's actually pretty close to New Zealand diesel
- 40:55Speaker 3: price at the moment. So it's a bit of a
- 40:57Speaker 3: mixed bag, to be fair.
- 40:59Speaker 1: So is that an American currency or New Zealand currency,
- 41:02Speaker 1: you're quoting?
- 41:02Speaker 3: That's converting back to New Zealand dollars. So it's in gallons.
- 41:07Speaker 3: So petrol is about $ 3. 85 a gallon. diesel about $ 6
- 41:14Speaker 3: a gallon over here so yeah it's a bit of
- 41:19Speaker 3: a mixed bag as I say and just in terms
- 41:22Speaker 3: of we've had a drive around today we've been up
- 41:24Speaker 3: in Oklahoma been through a bit of the grain belt
- 41:27Speaker 3: and quite a bit of cattle country and it is
- 41:31Speaker 3: extremely extremely dry through that area so there's been pressure
- 41:36Speaker 3: on from a farming perspective.
- 41:37Speaker 1: As well But in general, though, like agriculture, is it
- 41:40Speaker 1: in a pretty good place, would you imagine?
- 41:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well, definitely beef is in a really
- 41:49Speaker 3: good place. Green is probably possibly slightly better than what
- 41:55Speaker 3: it is in New Zealand currently. I read a little
- 41:58Speaker 3: bit of stuff around cotton. There's a bit of pressure
- 42:00Speaker 3: on there. So, yeah, I think that in general it's
- 42:04Speaker 3: sort of, OK, but maybe not as prosperous as what
- 42:08Speaker 3: New Zealand is at the moment, I wouldn't have thought.
- 42:10Speaker 1: Now, people struggle driving around roundabouts here in Gore. What's
- 42:14Speaker 1: it like going over to the freeway system of Texas?
- 42:19Speaker 3: Well, it was a baptism of fire. We arrived in
- 42:21Speaker 3: at Houston at 4 on a Friday afternoon, and I
- 42:28Speaker 3: was the driver. We were straight onto the big freeways, but, yeah,
- 42:32Speaker 3: you've just got to trust Google and make sure that
- 42:34Speaker 3: you're that your steering wheel was in the middle of
- 42:37Speaker 3: the road, not on the outside of the road. That's
- 42:41Speaker 3: bad news. I've only done it twice on 2,000 miles,
- 42:43Speaker 3: so I'm relatively OK with it.
- 42:46Speaker 1: So there are no cars coming the other way, obviously,
- 42:48Speaker 1: when it did occur? No, no.
- 42:52Speaker 5: It was.
- 42:52Speaker 3: Yeah, you come off some of the big motorways onto
- 42:57Speaker 3: an exit, and then you go straight onto a two-way road,
- 43:00Speaker 3: and it's just seemed natural to... swung onto the left-hand
- 43:04Speaker 3: side of that two-way road. But you've actually got to
- 43:07Speaker 3: cross over the centre line, which seems a bit bizarre,
- 43:09Speaker 3: but it's... Yeah, so I'm... Yeah, I'm OK with that.
- 43:15Speaker 1: So a couple more days, then you're back over to reality,
- 43:18Speaker 1: to Terra Firma in New Zealand?
- 43:21Speaker 3: Yeah, so tonight we're going to stay just on the
- 43:25Speaker 3: border of Oklahoma and Texas, and then tomorrow we're heading
- 43:27Speaker 3: down to Houston, which is where we fly out of, Thursday,
- 43:31Speaker 3: this group of us going through the International Space Museum,
- 43:35Speaker 3: which is in Texas. And then, yeah, home on Friday.
- 43:38Speaker 3: So back to reality, back in the office on Monday.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Good on you, Sam. Well, safe travels. It's not every
- 43:44Speaker 1: day you talk about tax to somebody who's over in Texas,
- 43:47Speaker 1: but we've managed to achieve it today, along with your adventures.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time on the muster.
- 43:51Speaker 3: We could almost make this trip tax-flexible, I think, wouldn't we?
- 43:56Speaker 1: Well, you're the accountant. You'll know. Very good.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Cheers, Andy.
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- 44:25Speaker 1: That's us over in Dunworth for the afternoon. The podcast
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- 44:45Speaker 1: Stock selling action occurred courtesy of PDG Wrightson. It was
- 44:49Speaker 1: at the Balclutha sale yard this morning. Mark Coulter's on
- 44:53Speaker 1: the line to give us a rundown on prices. G'day, mate.
- 44:55Speaker 1: How do we fare?
- 44:57Speaker 4: Yeah, g'day, Andy. Yeah, not too bad here again in
- 44:59Speaker 4: Balclutha this week. It was a small yard again, but
- 45:02Speaker 4: what was in sold very well for what it was.
- 45:04Speaker 4: Getting into the prime lambs, your big heavy prime lambs
- 45:07Speaker 4: are $ 280 to $ 310 at a very big push. Your
- 45:10Speaker 4: good mediums are $ 240 to $ 260, and your lighter end
- 45:16Speaker 4: primes are still $ 180 to $ 210. A few cut teeth
- 45:20Speaker 4: starting to come through now. We had a couple of
- 45:21Speaker 4: handfuls here today. They sold anywhere from $ 150 to $ 200
- 45:25Speaker 4: for your big fresh cut teeth. Store lambs, there was
- 45:30Speaker 4: not many of them today at all. What was in
- 45:33Speaker 4: the Ford stores are $ 150 to $ 175, and there was
- 45:37Speaker 4: a handful around at the end there. They were anywhere
- 45:41Speaker 4: from $ 50 to $ 130. Into the ewes, some big, heavy
- 45:44Speaker 4: prime ewes come through again today. They were $ 280 to $ 310.
- 45:48Speaker 4: You've got mediums still fetching well at $ 240 to $ 270.
- 45:51Speaker 4: And your light rain girls have done the winter and
- 45:54Speaker 4: spring tough for $ 110 to $ 160. I was up here
- 45:57Speaker 4: at Balclutha, and cattle sale coming up down here on
- 46:00Speaker 4: the 14th, so get in touch with your local agent.
- 46:02Speaker 1: Cheers.