Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Samuel Carrington: Otago University dentistry Senior Lecturer on growing waitlist for child dental surgery
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Over half of children on the dental surgery weight list
- 0:02Speaker 1: have been waiting more than four months. That's three thousand
- 0:05Speaker 1: kids waiting more than one hundred and twenty days health
- 0:07Speaker 1: in zed data. They are apparently in pain, some of them.
- 0:09Speaker 1: There's some complex issues. Samuel Carrington, Faculty of Dentistry at Otago.
- 0:13Speaker 2: You need good morning, Good morning, Ryan, how are you good?
- 0:16Speaker 1: Thank you? What are you going to do to get
- 0:17Speaker 1: on the list.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Right? Well, by the time timebod, if you reach hospital care,
- 0:23Speaker 2: they usually are quite in a lot of significant pain
- 0:25Speaker 2: and have multiple infected or edits teeth. So many of
- 0:28Speaker 2: these so many need several extractions and in some cases
- 0:32Speaker 2: for dental clearances under general So the level of disease
- 0:36Speaker 2: is not about poor oral hygien alone. It's actually about
- 0:38Speaker 2: death issues like poverty and nutrition, lack of early access
- 0:41Speaker 2: to the community oral health service. And if we had
- 0:43Speaker 2: a system that primarily focus on prevention, these children would
- 0:46Speaker 2: be treated much earlier with simpler and less traumatic procedures.
- 0:49Speaker 2: But right now their hospital dentist surgery is often the
- 0:52Speaker 2: end result of a systemic failure.
- 0:53Speaker 1: So just stop feeding them coca cola.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Well that's one part of it. But yeah, like I said,
- 1:00Speaker 2: it's a systemic issue. Unfortunately, our community Orehalse service is
- 1:04Speaker 2: under resource, understaff, and this all leads to children waiting
- 1:09Speaker 2: on the list and leading hospital level care.
- 1:11Speaker 1: So when they're on the list, are they guaranteed to
- 1:13Speaker 1: be in pain? Like for those who are waiting four months,
- 1:16Speaker 1: presumably you would get the extreme cases out of the
- 1:19Speaker 1: way first. So those who are waiting more than form
- 1:22Speaker 1: I mean, are their kids out there literally every day
- 1:26Speaker 1: in pain waiting for a dental surgery more than four months?
- 1:31Speaker 2: Unfortunately there are And if you think about the weight issues,
- 1:34Speaker 2: so children in pain, you know they can't do things
- 1:36Speaker 2: like concentrate in school, They struggle to eat, they lose
- 1:39Speaker 2: a lot of sleeve. They often go through multiple appointments
- 1:42Speaker 2: to the community Orehalse Service and even to private practices
- 1:45Speaker 2: in order to get antibiotics to kind of alleviate that pain.
- 1:48Speaker 2: But what happens is it affects their development and their
- 1:51Speaker 2: ability to thrive. And it also it's noted impacting the child,
- 1:55Speaker 2: it's also impacting on the family, so that family carries
- 1:58Speaker 2: a huge emotional and financial burden. It's a terrible to
- 2:00Speaker 2: take time off work. Now it's a trope Travelt to appointment.
- 2:03Speaker 1: It's terrible. Nobody wants that. So what this backlog was
- 2:07Speaker 1: caused by the lockdowns?
- 2:08Speaker 2: Was it?
- 2:08Speaker 1: So we locked down then we had couldn't do any
- 2:11Speaker 1: of the surge. Reason then that the backlog we haven't
- 2:13Speaker 1: caught up.
- 2:15Speaker 2: That's correct, Yeah, okay, but it's also an outcome of
- 2:21Speaker 2: the system itself. So children were being pushed back for
- 2:23Speaker 2: their exams, their dental tickeay got worse, the list got bigger,
- 2:28Speaker 2: and then factor Adam was the fact that we were
- 2:31Speaker 2: having staff shortages. People were leaving, they were retiring. We
- 2:35Speaker 2: were having new graduates graduate from both universities Otago and
- 2:38Speaker 2: aut and a lot of them were going to Australia.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Are they still going there?
- 2:43Speaker 2: Absolutely? I also worked at the dental school and I
- 2:46Speaker 2: think about our graduating class last year, I'd say about
- 2:48Speaker 2: a quarter of them went over to Australia.
- 2:50Speaker 1: What would it normally be, Well.
- 2:53Speaker 2: The public system actually cries out for a lot of
- 2:56Speaker 2: our graduates. We had around about one hundred and forty
- 2:58Speaker 2: oral health therapist graduate year. But last year it was
- 3:02Speaker 2: the first time in my ten years of looking at
- 3:04Speaker 2: the university that I've seen a big chunk of our
- 3:07Speaker 2: graduates actually go to Australia because they couldn't find jobs here.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Sam, appreciate your time, Sam Carrington, a senior lecture off
- 3:14Speaker 1: Faculty of Dentistry at the University of Otago. I mean
- 3:19Speaker 1: joined the Q Who Isn't Leaving?
- 3:21Speaker 2: I suppose?
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