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Capítulo 041: An Interview with Julio Salgado · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: once again. Local Radio is a podcast archiving the brilliance
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Speaker 1: and legacies of women and fans of color. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to We didn't I know
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Speaker 1: it's been it's been a long journey. It's in a world.
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Speaker 1: We are excited, exhausted, relieved, happy, like just everything felted.
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Speaker 1: We are so happy right now. Yes, why are we happy?
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Speaker 1: Because well, a week ago from yesterday, from last Friday,
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Speaker 1: we had our very first love a podcast party and
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Speaker 1: oh my god, if you were there, you know that
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Speaker 1: it was amazing. It was everything it was like exceeded
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Speaker 1: my expectations. It was like everything went so smoothly, like
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Speaker 1: everything was just like on brand, on point. Everything was.
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Speaker 1: My mind was blown. Let's talk about it, like from
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Speaker 1: the beginning, Okay, from the beginning, I want to like
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Speaker 1: shout out ourselves because MoMA and I had put so
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Speaker 1: much work into this, like weeks in advance, and if
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Speaker 1: you know, if you know us, you know that we're
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Speaker 1: always running around were procrastinators, like we're doing things the day, yes, really,
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Speaker 1: but this time around we were like, no, like this
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Speaker 1: needs to be like a one, like an amazing production.
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Speaker 1: So like the day of actually, like Mom and I
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Speaker 1: started the day really early and everything was already done,
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Speaker 1: like we had finished everything. So we got to the
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Speaker 1: venue at five pm and like started set up and
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Speaker 1: everything was just on schedule. And I'm really proud of
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Speaker 1: us for that. I'm really proud of us, and I'm
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Speaker 1: really proud of like our team that worked with us.
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Speaker 1: So we had like our squad of just like home
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Speaker 1: girls are friends that we've known for years that we
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Speaker 1: that knew us before we did anything that we grew
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Speaker 1: up with. So like more specifically, um, like my sister
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Speaker 1: was our stage manager, and she helped to time the
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Speaker 1: live show and make sure that like the DJ and
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Speaker 1: us and the projector the visuals, you know, everything was
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Speaker 1: lined up according to plan. She also like puts Mala
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Speaker 1: in check, which is hilarious for me to see because
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Speaker 1: usually it's me tell them you witness you witnessed my
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Speaker 1: dynamic with my sister. It's so funny because so Ivan
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Speaker 1: is the younger sister eleven months, so not that much younger,
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Speaker 1: but she's still the younger sister, and so to see
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Speaker 1: like Mala just like she kind of like Mala kind
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Speaker 1: of spirals in a way and not in a bad way,
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Speaker 1: but she has like so many ideas that she'll go
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Speaker 1: off on a tangent and we'll have to bring her back.
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Speaker 1: So to see someone else do it and be like, Okay, MoMA,
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Speaker 1: but we need to actually focus on this right now.
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, thank you for being our stage manager.
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Speaker 1: This makes my job Alatia, thank you much. I like
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Speaker 1: joke about it to about it, but I do need
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Speaker 1: a handler. I do because I do. I have so
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Speaker 1: many ideas. It's like something oh my god, oh like
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Speaker 1: they tend to like be ideas that work they worked with.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Mama, we need to finish this first and
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Speaker 1: then we can go there one at a time. So
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Speaker 1: to have someone else see it and be like, okay, girl,
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Speaker 1: bring it back. We gotta keep up going with the rehearsal.
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Speaker 1: We gotta go, go, go go. Yes, So Evan's stage
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Speaker 1: managed and she did, Thank you an amazing job. Thank you,
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Speaker 1: Evan did a great job. My friend Monica that I
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Speaker 1: have known since the eighth grade, she was our mistress
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Speaker 1: of ceremonies and she introduced us. She did an amazing job.
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Speaker 1: And I love that part because what we did for
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Speaker 1: our intro was we rewrote the Powerpuff Girls intro and
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Speaker 1: we're not going to share it because you need to
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Speaker 1: go to the party. The next one there will be more. Yes,
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Speaker 1: if you want to see the live show, you need
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Speaker 1: to come to the live show basically. Basically, So that
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Speaker 1: was Monica. Who else was helping us? So my high
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Speaker 1: school well, my best friend from high school, um, and
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Speaker 1: she's still a really good friend of mine. Nancy. She
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Speaker 1: helped with the merchandise, and I was really happy because
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Speaker 1: she's like she actually helped with the merchandise. At our
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Speaker 1: one year anniversary. We had like a tiny, tiny little
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Speaker 1: table and we didn't really like we didn't really expect
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Speaker 1: people to be buying stuff, and like she was able
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Speaker 1: to manage everything. So I like asked her if she
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Speaker 1: could help us again, and she did and she did
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Speaker 1: a great job. She was also there at the merch
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Speaker 1: table with Melissa, our friend, her friend Melissa worked the
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Speaker 1: door and worked at the merge table along with We
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Speaker 1: also had Laney and Liz, my friends from college, my
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Speaker 1: tough girls, my jumbos um and then we had obviously
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Speaker 1: Sizzle DJ Sizzle who was like our house DJ, DJ
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Speaker 1: Zooty who also played and who brought the house down.
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Speaker 1: And everybody loved the DJ so much like our DJs.
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Speaker 1: Fucking killed it that party, like everyone was on their
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Speaker 1: feet dance seeing we were taking shots. We were really partying,
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Speaker 1: like we packed the place too. It was full. We
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Speaker 1: had our specialty cocktails which were delicious and so cute.
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Speaker 1: They were so cute. We had little like glittery pink
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Speaker 1: stirs and um if you order like there was and
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Speaker 1: La Mammy and the drinks were delicious. The bartender was amazing.
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Speaker 1: We had our Step and Repeat. We had photos. Priscilla
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Speaker 1: of La Junta took our photos, so all those nice
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Speaker 1: photos that you saw on the Instagram, that was all Priscilla,
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Speaker 1: So thank you so much. Everything was just like wow.
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Speaker 1: Our guests Curly and Maya. Curly and Maya were amazing.
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Speaker 1: They played with us on stage. It was so funny
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Speaker 1: because we didn't necessarily prep them for what they were doing.
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Speaker 1: When they got there, we told them what they were
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Speaker 1: going to do, but they were like, oh, we thought
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Speaker 1: we were going to be here for an interview. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so for you know, we did tape the entire live show,
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Speaker 1: so we are going to put it out later on
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Speaker 1: local Landia on the YouTube, right, But basically so that
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Speaker 1: you get an idea we want, we we did a
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Speaker 1: live podcast, but it wasn't just an interview based like
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Speaker 1: we usually do when we put out our audio on
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Speaker 1: our iTunes and everything. Our idea was like, let's bring
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Speaker 1: back like the freaking like variety show, Like let's do
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Speaker 1: a mashup of like Vintage Share Variety, our meets Saboo,
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Speaker 1: them meets us and make it like now. And it
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Speaker 1: was super fun and like people got it, like our
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Speaker 1: listeners and people in attendance. They came up to us
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Speaker 1: afterwards they were like, oh, so it's like a game
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Speaker 1: show like a variety show. We're like, yes, so it
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Speaker 1: was really fun. It were exactly like a variety show.
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Speaker 1: It was amazing. We had matching dresses essentially with our
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Speaker 1: own you know, our a little like yeah, which I like, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was cute. Who else do we need to think
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Speaker 1: who else was there, um, Curly Maya, I mean Civic
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Speaker 1: Center Studios. Of course, Civic Center to let us host
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Speaker 1: our event there and it was the perfect space for it.
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Speaker 1: It was such a good space. Um, just to mean
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Speaker 1: all of our locomotives that went out, thank you all
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Speaker 1: for being there. There were other podcasts they were there,
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Speaker 1: like shout out a fit Cheese Man and not doing it,
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Speaker 1: We love them was there was also there. Shout out
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Speaker 1: to them. Thank you all the podcasters who showed up,
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Speaker 1: who came through. Oh my god, mom, Luis he was there,
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Bou also has a podcast called
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Speaker 1: no Vemos and swap me Um. It was really great
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Speaker 1: to see him and Sizzle and Norms have their own podcasts. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they do what's it called again? And they record here. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Um so yeah, it was a really fun night our
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Speaker 1: first podcast party in live show. We want to do more. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: it was the place to be it really was it?
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Speaker 1: Really you missed out? I'm sorry? Yeah. Also, I mean
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Speaker 1: I don't think he listens to my budimo might He
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Speaker 1: actually designed our snapchat um filter for us. We had
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Speaker 1: a snapshot filter and everything, so if you got to
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Speaker 1: see it and you want them for if you want
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Speaker 1: to filter for either like your graduation party, something that
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Speaker 1: you're doing, you're an event, a wedding, whatever, let me
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Speaker 1: know I can put you in contact with him. Yes,
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Speaker 1: all right, good times, good fucking time. I'm happy with
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Speaker 1: the way everything turned out. It was perfect. It was
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Speaker 1: so great, and we have some other things coming up well. Actually,
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Speaker 1: so it's by the time this episode is published already
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Speaker 1: we will have had um La Junta l As Memorial
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Speaker 1: Day we hosted. It was a beautiful time. We always
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Speaker 1: love lave working with them. That was one of our
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Speaker 1: first parties that we ever host. Our first event ever
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Speaker 1: that we ever hosted was in seventeen and it was
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Speaker 1: the Memorial DA So it's a year later. We've come
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Speaker 1: a long way, and we do give like Lahunta a
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Speaker 1: lot of credit, like they've they've done a lot of
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Speaker 1: mentoring for us as far as this whole party world
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Speaker 1: and the party yes, and the fact that they were
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Speaker 1: the first, Like David, he was the first person to
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Speaker 1: like hit us up and be like, hey, do you
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Speaker 1: want to host this party? And we were like do
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Speaker 1: we do that? Like we're at we're a podcast, do
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Speaker 1: we host parties, right, but they saw something in us
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Speaker 1: and it definitely planted the seed that, oh, we can
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Speaker 1: do more than you know just record as you know,
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Speaker 1: like we like to host workshops. We like to go
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Speaker 1: to university campuses and like host workshops. We like we
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Speaker 1: can do keynotes, we can host parties, we can produce
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Speaker 1: our own live show. Like there's so much that we
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Speaker 1: can do because we love to do it. We love
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Speaker 1: to do it. It's fun for it and I think
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Speaker 1: that our listeners love it because they go yeah, because
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Speaker 1: I think we all have a good time and the listeners, like,
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Speaker 1: we have some listeners that have consistently come to a
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Speaker 1: lot of our events. Steph Stephanie, thank you for being there.
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Speaker 1: She comes back to a lot of people so much,
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Speaker 1: very supportive. Hobby has been out to a bunch of
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Speaker 1: things already, So thank you Hobby. Who else are USC Girl?
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Speaker 1: Are USC Girl? Karen's shout out Karen, the other Betas,
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Speaker 1: the Betas they brought their whole crews were out and
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Speaker 1: I loved it. It was very bad. It was super cute.
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Speaker 1: So thank you all for being there being there, lazy listeners.
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Speaker 1: I also want to plug um. We got our pins.
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Speaker 1: We got our I'm wearing. I'm wearing a couple right now.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, should we put it up to the camera maybe?
10:12
Speaker 1: Can you let me try? Okay, well I'll describe them
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Speaker 1: while you do that. Okay, so um, thank you too, Adrianna.
10:19
Speaker 1: Adrianna has designed our logo, she has designed our flyers,
10:22
Speaker 1: and she also designed our pins. And they're super cute
10:26
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen them on the Instagram. The mala um.
10:29
Speaker 1: The Mala pin is a headphone and it has a
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Speaker 1: rose and it says mala in gold and then um.
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Speaker 1: The Diosa pin is a mic like an old school
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Speaker 1: like retro looking mike and it says diosa on it
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Speaker 1: and it's super cute. I love the way they came
10:44
Speaker 1: out there an inch. There are twelve dollars each. We
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Speaker 1: have a very limited amount. Um. We're shipping them, not
10:52
Speaker 1: this we're supposed shipping this weekend, but because of the
10:54
Speaker 1: holiday long holiday, like most likely we'll be shipping them
10:56
Speaker 1: out on Tuesday. So they ordered, um, you'll be getting
10:59
Speaker 1: yours next week in the May all and if you
11:00
Speaker 1: want to place your order, you know you know where
11:03
Speaker 1: to find us. We're on Venmo. Go to the instagram
11:07
Speaker 1: all of that, all the infos on there. So we
11:10
Speaker 1: have a really fun Well we have another event coming
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Speaker 1: up that we're gonna be at. There's a Latina Conference
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Speaker 1: UM that the rest of the information escapes me that
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Speaker 1: we're going to be participating in UM and it's another
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Speaker 1: one of the council members, if you recall, the councilwoman
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Speaker 1: Narie Martinez had us for her Women's History Month in
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Speaker 1: her words event and so another council person has invited us.
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Speaker 1: So the office of council Member Current Price UM, which
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Speaker 1: represents South l a UM, invited us to be a
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Speaker 1: part of their third annual Latina Conference and it's on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: June two, and it's going to be at l a
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Speaker 1: Trade Sech College, which is in the downtown. It's downtown
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Speaker 1: in its Downwntown, it's off of Washington. Yeah. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: been there a few times and up. Yeah. So we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be actually hosting in the morning. Well, when we
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Speaker 1: have more information, will post it, but we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: hosting a Latin x tech UM intro to podcasting workshop. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so if you're interested or if you have students, because
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Speaker 1: this is for Latin US for Latin us students. It's specific,
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Speaker 1: it's um like youth the part that we're we're going
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Speaker 1: to be a part of his youth centered. But of
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Speaker 1: course it's open to like all constituents, all residents, all
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Speaker 1: community members. So if you're interested, if you know folks
12:23
Speaker 1: that are interested, pass the invot along to them. It's
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Speaker 1: going to be really fun. And I want to thank
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Speaker 1: Genevieve for reaching out to us from the council member's office. Yes,
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Speaker 1: thank you, Genevieve, Thank you so much, and thank you
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Speaker 1: to any and all of our listeners who have ever
12:34
Speaker 1: brought us any sort of an opportunity like this, because
12:37
Speaker 1: the workshops, the events, like our listeners asked us to
12:41
Speaker 1: participate in these things, like so you know, we are
12:44
Speaker 1: not like going out and like submitting our information and
12:47
Speaker 1: asking to host these workshops, are asking to be involved
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Speaker 1: in these conferences. Every single thing has been a listener
12:53
Speaker 1: has like asked us, you know what we like to
12:55
Speaker 1: be involved. So our listeners like, we thank you so
12:58
Speaker 1: much for thinking of us and invite us, you know,
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Speaker 1: to participate in these events. Yes, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: We're so appreciative, we're so grateful. We love you so much.
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Speaker 1: This is like possible because of y'all. Just know that, like, yes,
13:12
Speaker 1: we do the podcasting and the work behind it, but
13:14
Speaker 1: like you, y'all motivated, like exists because of y'all. Um.
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Speaker 1: So I think this is a good time to transition
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Speaker 1: to go into our song break because we're going to
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Speaker 1: bring on Julio for the second half of the episode,
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Speaker 1: and he brought the song Bandilo by Anna Barbara and
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Speaker 1: I'm Julio. Just to give y'all a quick bio. He
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Speaker 1: is a co founder of Dreams Dreamers, a drift dot com,
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Speaker 1: and project manager for Culture Strike. Shout out to Fabian Riez,
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Speaker 1: She's the founder of that and his status as an
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Speaker 1: undocumented queer artivist has fueled the content for of his
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Speaker 1: visual art, which depict key individuals and moments of the
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Speaker 1: Dream Act and migrant rights movement. He's done amazing work.
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Speaker 1: I'm positive that y'all have seen his art, his um
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Speaker 1: his portraits are so amazing, His visual art is amazing.
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Speaker 1: So we're super excited to have him on the second
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Speaker 1: half of the episode. And you might have seen Julio
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Speaker 1: Salgado um. In July, Salagado and other undocumented activists joined
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Speaker 1: tous Antonio Vargas on the cover of Time magazine. So
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Speaker 1: Julio has really been out there doing it. Um So.
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Speaker 1: Salgado graduated from cal State Long Beach UM and studied journalism.
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Speaker 1: So if you want to see more of Julio's artwork,
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Speaker 1: you can go to Julio Salgado art dot com. And
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Speaker 1: Julio is going to talk more about his projects, Where
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Speaker 1: to see his work, where to support him after the
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Speaker 1: song break, Yes, and we're also quick plug. We're going
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Speaker 1: to be thoroughly discussing the campaign and movement called Bantaya
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Speaker 1: in Glusiva, which is sort of the reason, you know
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Speaker 1: why we were able to get in contact with Julio
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Speaker 1: and invite him in for an interview. So thank you,
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Speaker 1: thank you, Stay tuned and we'll be right back. And
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Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
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Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and ummmm
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Speaker 1: from from from of it and welcome back. And we
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Speaker 1: have the amazing here with us. Hi say hello, hello,
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Speaker 1: I'm when I start with thank you so much for
15:51
Speaker 1: having me. I finally get to meet the people behind
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Speaker 1: those soothing voices I was just trying. They have like
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Speaker 1: such soothing voices some there on their podcast. I love it,
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for saying that. We're really really
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Speaker 1: excited to have you here, Julio. And already, like before
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Speaker 1: we started recording, we've already been talking so much ship
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Speaker 1: and much. I'm like, it's the microphone on I do that.
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Speaker 1: I so make sure like if Julio, your mom is
16:20
Speaker 1: watching right, like, don't spill the free hold my parents.
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Speaker 1: The thing is, my parents are really not tech savvy
16:28
Speaker 1: in that way. So for over a year and a
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Speaker 1: half or like, where do we listen to it? Where
16:31
Speaker 1: do we go? Where do we listen to? I tuned Spotify?
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Speaker 1: You know the word because my dad is like obsessed
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Speaker 1: with Facebook, like like he like and so what he like.
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Speaker 1: It translates his stuff into Spanish, and sometimes it's not
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Speaker 1: the best translations, and one like sometimes I'll get like
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Speaker 1: a random texts, so I'm like, oh no, that's not
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Speaker 1: the right translation that what I'm meant to say is
16:55
Speaker 1: so it could be dangerous when you're my grandma just
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Speaker 1: ding me on Facebook already already my grandma's like I
17:02
Speaker 1: love my grandma, Yeah, but she's like hardcore, like Baptist
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Speaker 1: church core and like so I'm like, no, I don't
17:08
Speaker 1: need to accept that I love your grandma. But Facebook,
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Speaker 1: you want to be able to talk your ship, yeah
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Speaker 1: and post or whatever. You know. What about I love
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Speaker 1: about Facebook is that I haven't really had to come
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Speaker 1: out to the rest of my family because clearly everything
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Speaker 1: I post is clearly like clearly so like, it's never
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Speaker 1: like I don't even I never had to come out
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Speaker 1: to my whole family and be like, guess what they're like,
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Speaker 1: you know it's yeah, yeah, so I don't. I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure if I'm I'm ready for my grandma to yeah,
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Speaker 1: but anyway, I'm going to Placestagram right Oh god, no, no,
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Speaker 1: it's over Instagram. I'm cool with my being Facebook friends
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Speaker 1: with my family, but not Instagram friends. Yeah, I'm not
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Speaker 1: that's too much. I had one of my my tps,
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Speaker 1: she did follow me on Instagram a long time ago.
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Speaker 1: When I had to block her, I just did. I
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Speaker 1: didn't even say anything about it. No, sorry, you don't
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Speaker 1: need to see you read you don't need to see it.
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Speaker 1: Like my niece I have like nieces now, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I don't need to know what my niece is doing.
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Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, like and like I'm the
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Speaker 1: cool uncle, right, Like I'm like cool uncle or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But I'm just like it's not even about what they're doing,
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Speaker 1: which it's like I don't understand their language, Like I
18:20
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I I had something coming with
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Speaker 1: fifteen year old teenage girls. No, I don't know the
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Speaker 1: different different languages. Yeah. I just went talking this weekend
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Speaker 1: in Vegas and I was in my family and they
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Speaker 1: were doing like all this like dances the youths were doing.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm about the dance I'm at the table,
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm not the youth dancing now that
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Speaker 1: they were doing I don't I forget what it was.
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Speaker 1: But then like what is it? The start playing like
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Speaker 1: we're going that My god, that's fun. That's all the youth,
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Speaker 1: the youth. Yeah, so we brought okay talk about how
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Speaker 1: Blulio came to be on our show today, to be
19:03
Speaker 1: on look At. I mean we've on it honestly and
19:05
Speaker 1: obviously been admiring you from AFAR for many years, many
19:10
Speaker 1: for many many years. I remember, Julio, when you went
19:12
Speaker 1: to the que POC conference at UCSB when my university
19:16
Speaker 1: hosted it. Oh my god, Yes, I was a student
19:19
Speaker 1: that was a senior there and from Afar. I admire
19:23
Speaker 1: yes but now here, Yes, yes, this is what we
19:29
Speaker 1: do right, so we're super excited. Um, I want to
19:31
Speaker 1: shout out Janet Gala. She's a campaign manager at GLAD
19:35
Speaker 1: and she's actually she actually connected us with Julio because
19:39
Speaker 1: there is this initiative, this movement happening right now called
19:42
Speaker 1: hashtag and glusiva. Yeah yeah, uh inclusive screen and basically
19:50
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so yeah, so Janet wife and friends. I
19:53
Speaker 1: actually just met her recently in person. You know that
19:57
Speaker 1: the friendships that get crazy Instagram in a guy we're
20:00
Speaker 1: gonna talk about ye, but I find that. So she
20:04
Speaker 1: hit me up and she was like, you know, we're
20:06
Speaker 1: doing this or this campaign about how you know this
20:09
Speaker 1: in the Spanish media. You know, they had just come
20:12
Speaker 1: up with the with a study that said that like
20:15
Speaker 1: something like three percent of characters on Spanish media that Telemundo, um,
20:21
Speaker 1: they only had a three percent um uh of L
20:25
Speaker 1: G B t Q characters. Tiny percentage and and so
20:30
Speaker 1: you know, like this was very specifically um uh you know,
20:35
Speaker 1: to not call out but kind of like say hey,
20:37
Speaker 1: we're here, you know. And so there was a lot
20:39
Speaker 1: of artists, you know, like ch Marquez, Uh, you know,
20:42
Speaker 1: Romto Rico was part of this campaign as well, and
20:45
Speaker 1: and you know I was part of it. And and
20:47
Speaker 1: so it was about you know, we want to see
20:49
Speaker 1: ourselves and TV. You know, like one of the conversations
20:52
Speaker 1: that we're having earlier was about how as like Hollywood
20:56
Speaker 1: and TV and all that stuff. To me, it's really
20:58
Speaker 1: important because that's how other people learn about who the
21:01
Speaker 1: other is. And so growing up you know, watching watching
21:05
Speaker 1: you know, sabokiand or whatever. Um, I never saw myself
21:08
Speaker 1: on TV. And if I ever did, it was always
21:10
Speaker 1: a joke, you know, like it was like the punchline
21:13
Speaker 1: and and so yeah, and so um, I think right
21:17
Speaker 1: now Latin America's it's it's actually trying, um, you know,
21:21
Speaker 1: with trying to change this. But maybe Scone and Telemundo
21:25
Speaker 1: are one of the biggest things that our parents are DIA.
21:29
Speaker 1: And so you know, this campaign was specifically to create characters.
21:33
Speaker 1: I was my the image that I made what's about
21:37
Speaker 1: trans you know, men representation, because there was like zero
21:40
Speaker 1: characters that representing representing a chance transplant specifically, and so um,
21:46
Speaker 1: I did this image and and yeah, so I was
21:48
Speaker 1: I was I was, you know, like things like this
21:50
Speaker 1: to me again are very important, um, you know, Hollywood
21:54
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, because I think that we need
21:56
Speaker 1: to we need to we not not only do we
21:59
Speaker 1: need repair centation like physically, like yeah, I want to
22:01
Speaker 1: see a character, but the people writing the characters absolutely,
22:05
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I think that there's something to
22:08
Speaker 1: be said about you're talking about the telemun A lot
22:12
Speaker 1: of these production companies that are based or started in
22:15
Speaker 1: Latin America, but those of us who are physically existing
22:19
Speaker 1: and creating here in the United States having like a
22:22
Speaker 1: US based like Latino production and media, because it's totally
22:27
Speaker 1: different what they end up putting out and then what
22:29
Speaker 1: we actually are living and want to see. It's not
22:33
Speaker 1: it doesn't always. Yeah, as somebody who like because I
22:36
Speaker 1: wasn't born here, I was warning Mexico and I came
22:38
Speaker 1: here when I was I was living years sould and
22:41
Speaker 1: so it was nice to see like the novelas that
22:44
Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, because of course a little
22:46
Speaker 1: geo watching, you know, and it was nice to see that.
22:52
Speaker 1: But as I grew up here and you know, like
22:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to call it American
22:57
Speaker 1: rights or whatever, um, you know, I started needing more
23:00
Speaker 1: towards watching um, you know, sitcom's and all that stuff,
23:05
Speaker 1: and so where sometimes I didn't see myself, well, I
23:09
Speaker 1: never saw myself on Spanish media. In Hollywood, it was
23:12
Speaker 1: even worse because like it was either you know, if
23:16
Speaker 1: if there was it was there was things like Will
23:18
Speaker 1: and Grace, which was supposed to be like a gay
23:21
Speaker 1: TV show or whatever, um, and it was not going
23:24
Speaker 1: to take credit away from that show. And I and
23:26
Speaker 1: I spoke, and I spoken a lot about you know,
23:29
Speaker 1: like the gay media, the U S gay media, how
23:32
Speaker 1: it was the l world. Will and Grace great ground
23:35
Speaker 1: breaking and everything there. Yeah, but we never saw ourselves
23:38
Speaker 1: like I. I never you know, I never saw myself yes,
23:41
Speaker 1: super wide like Ellen exactly. And and so I think
23:46
Speaker 1: right now there's there's a there's a move in Hollywood
23:49
Speaker 1: where they're trying to change that, but to me, it doesn't.
23:54
Speaker 1: It's again, it's not just about us being like us
23:57
Speaker 1: to see us, but like we need to have show creators,
23:59
Speaker 1: we need to have you know, writers, we need to
24:01
Speaker 1: have to know exactly because because then it becomes about
24:06
Speaker 1: you know, an ideas, and that's how stereotypes get put
24:09
Speaker 1: out there and and yeah, so I think I'm leaning
24:13
Speaker 1: more towards I love that. And you know what's wild
24:15
Speaker 1: to me. And we talk about this because just in
24:17
Speaker 1: this little like Oil Heights east Side downtown, just like
24:21
Speaker 1: l a city, like this little hub, we are just
24:25
Speaker 1: surrounded by so many like Latin X, just like artists
24:27
Speaker 1: and creators that do everything from like the graphic designers,
24:31
Speaker 1: the artists, the speakers, the podcasters, the DJ's, like there's
24:36
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of everything. Like we really could
24:39
Speaker 1: and build our own and I mean the fact that
24:41
Speaker 1: you're doing your podcast on your own. Like we are
24:43
Speaker 1: very lucky to be living in a time of do
24:46
Speaker 1: it yourselves, like we why yeah, like you don't need
24:49
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be nice to have network money and
24:52
Speaker 1: all that stuff, you know, sponsorship, but you know we
24:55
Speaker 1: have um and uh and you know, but but like
25:04
Speaker 1: we we live in an era where you could do
25:06
Speaker 1: it yourself. You know, you can you can create media.
25:08
Speaker 1: I mean the Adventures of a Black Girl, you know,
25:11
Speaker 1: it's a ray. It's like it's like one of the
25:13
Speaker 1: biggest examples. And I mean, of course not everybody's going
25:16
Speaker 1: to get a show at it, but like you get
25:18
Speaker 1: to tell those stories, and like Hollywood does not have
25:21
Speaker 1: an excuse to say, oh but we don't know where
25:23
Speaker 1: this show. We're right here exactly exactly. And so I
25:28
Speaker 1: literally in Hollywood, we're right here. And that's what I'm like,
25:31
Speaker 1: we need to take over. We need to like, you know,
25:34
Speaker 1: as people of color. You know, it's it's yaasta, you
25:37
Speaker 1: know like that that's not And again it's because Hollywood,
25:41
Speaker 1: my son. You know, it sounds you know, maybe I
25:44
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's not real whatever, but I'm like,
25:46
Speaker 1: look the rest of America. That's how that's what they're
25:49
Speaker 1: going to learn about us. It's so who's the source?
25:54
Speaker 1: I know. I was actually going to say, this is
25:56
Speaker 1: a good transition to talk about, um, the new show
26:00
Speaker 1: on it starts oh well actually it was. It was
26:08
Speaker 1: it was based off a story by the god a
26:11
Speaker 1: little him forgetting his name. But but um, you know
26:15
Speaker 1: she she created the show. And what I love about
26:18
Speaker 1: this show is the fact that you know, Daniel was
26:22
Speaker 1: very it was being very intentional about creating a space
26:26
Speaker 1: with like it's all Latino X writers. And sure it's
26:30
Speaker 1: not perfect, it's not. It's I mean, no, that's just
26:32
Speaker 1: another thing because exactly because there's not that many, especially
26:37
Speaker 1: queer women of color out there creating shows. I think,
26:39
Speaker 1: you know, if anything like this is a you know,
26:43
Speaker 1: like a little girl who's watching this, it's like, oh,
26:45
Speaker 1: she did it, like I can do it, and so
26:47
Speaker 1: and so I love the fact that that she's creating
26:50
Speaker 1: this show, which I I like it. I mean, I'm
26:52
Speaker 1: being biased because because you got a role, tell us
26:57
Speaker 1: it look like if you blake, if you blame you
26:59
Speaker 1: like you missed me. But so so Thania, Um she
27:04
Speaker 1: hits me up. And and you know, I guess she
27:07
Speaker 1: she'd be following my work and my artwork, and and
27:10
Speaker 1: so she wanted to have artwork in in the in
27:13
Speaker 1: the set. And I was like, sure, you know, why not.
27:17
Speaker 1: And not just that, but she was like, I want
27:19
Speaker 1: to have you on the show because a lot of
27:21
Speaker 1: the times, especially right now, on social media, you see
27:23
Speaker 1: a piece of art and you move on net snacks right,
27:26
Speaker 1: and you don't get to see who the person behind
27:29
Speaker 1: this art show and so or you know, the art
27:32
Speaker 1: the art piece, and so she wanted to be very
27:34
Speaker 1: intentional and and put me in, you know, putting me
27:36
Speaker 1: in this scene. And so again it's really quick if
27:38
Speaker 1: you blame. You don't see it, but it's there. And
27:42
Speaker 1: so you know, I showed my mom almost like oh
27:44
Speaker 1: my god me. So it was it was really cute.
27:47
Speaker 1: It was really cute and and you know, this is
27:50
Speaker 1: this this is not my first time that my art
27:52
Speaker 1: was not nottonious show it was. Another one was for
27:57
Speaker 1: my Dame's secretary, uh Sararmidez with an amazing actress. So
28:05
Speaker 1: my my artwork. She's so amazing. She's like she's very
28:09
Speaker 1: like I've met her, like because she's she's a great activist,
28:13
Speaker 1: you know, like pushing out for she's actually one of
28:16
Speaker 1: the faces of the PA. She did a video about it. Yeah,
28:20
Speaker 1: and so you know, like people, we need more people
28:23
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I like. But yeah. So so it's
28:30
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's really strange and cool and amazing.
28:34
Speaker 1: Like I'm proud of myself. Like I'm like, I'm proud
28:38
Speaker 1: of you, you think, because like I feel like you know,
28:41
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like drawing was my way of communicating,
28:47
Speaker 1: you know, like not speaking English was like I was
28:49
Speaker 1: always a kid in the back of the classroom drawing
28:51
Speaker 1: the teacher and getting in trouble for it, but making
28:54
Speaker 1: friends and like so I realized at a really young
28:57
Speaker 1: age that I could say so much through art. And
29:00
Speaker 1: so you know the fact that now is like on
29:03
Speaker 1: shows that you know, like people could see like shot
29:08
Speaker 1: you know, my protfolio archive at all. Yeah, yeah, so's
29:11
Speaker 1: it's it's really and I mean and I really, like,
29:15
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a ham I mean, uh no, but
29:20
Speaker 1: like I really you know, but I really I think,
29:26
Speaker 1: you know, not only do I want to kind of
29:29
Speaker 1: make my way through you know, Hollywood, hwever I can
29:31
Speaker 1: make it. But like I like being in front of
29:33
Speaker 1: the camera. It's gonna sound very cliche. It's gonna sound cliche,
29:36
Speaker 1: but like I'm taking like improv classes because I want
29:39
Speaker 1: to do something like I'm you know, I'm working. I
29:42
Speaker 1: wanna I want to make sure I don't just do
29:44
Speaker 1: it um you know, but like I want to be prepared.
29:47
Speaker 1: And I think and I think one of the things
29:49
Speaker 1: that yes, I think one of the things that you know,
29:52
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of the times people of
29:55
Speaker 1: color don't get a lot of these opportunities is because
29:58
Speaker 1: people don't invest in us. And I think that and
30:01
Speaker 1: like you can't just put us in front of a camera.
30:03
Speaker 1: You can't just throw us in there without being prepared,
30:05
Speaker 1: training and so training, guiding all this stuff, yes, one
30:08
Speaker 1: of the things. So I'm also part of Culture Strick,
30:10
Speaker 1: which is in UH national organization art organization, and our
30:15
Speaker 1: biggest thing is about how can we support artists of color,
30:18
Speaker 1: queerness of color. And this means investing in them, putting,
30:22
Speaker 1: like giving doing mentorship. Right now, we're working with undocumented
30:25
Speaker 1: filmmakers and we're connecting them with people like who directed
30:31
Speaker 1: and like people like shout out, like I always give
30:34
Speaker 1: a shout out because people again, people like people like Daniel,
30:38
Speaker 1: people who are already in that world. They are being
30:41
Speaker 1: really intentional and like, how can we invest in you?
30:44
Speaker 1: How can I train you? How can I share this?
30:46
Speaker 1: And that mere Yes, and it's women of color like
30:51
Speaker 1: Ana Anthony, she's like all the other prepared. Yeah, she's
30:54
Speaker 1: in the show. We've talked about that specific thing on
30:59
Speaker 1: our podcast. Is anybody who has ever written about us
31:02
Speaker 1: offered us jobs, put us on. There have been exceptions,
31:06
Speaker 1: all women of color, all all of them across. We
31:10
Speaker 1: have not gotten any kind of help from any straight men.
31:13
Speaker 1: I know until after there was visibly like something already,
31:17
Speaker 1: can I get out of there? What can I get
31:19
Speaker 1: out of this kind of thing. In fact, yeah, I
31:20
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I think all of my my mentors you know,
31:24
Speaker 1: growing up have been you know, having color. Mean Fabiana
31:28
Speaker 1: Rodriguez who started Culture Strike, she was like, you need
31:32
Speaker 1: to move to the because I grew up in Long
31:34
Speaker 1: Beach and a lot of people know my work for
31:36
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing a lot of stuff with
31:37
Speaker 1: the dream Bag and immigration reform stuff, and you know,
31:41
Speaker 1: Fabiana saw my work and she was like, how can
31:44
Speaker 1: I help, Like can you come to the Bay Area,
31:46
Speaker 1: like I'm starting this organization and like not like I
31:50
Speaker 1: feel like I mean it was lucky, but also like
31:52
Speaker 1: she saw talent. She's how potential and so to me, like,
31:54
Speaker 1: I'm like we need to continue to do that. We
31:56
Speaker 1: need to pay it forward and not just like oh,
32:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the show because you have
32:02
Speaker 1: no like how can how can I connect you? How
32:04
Speaker 1: can I hook you up? Because one of the things
32:07
Speaker 1: that I tell like, if you're studying art, if you're
32:09
Speaker 1: doing like take I know it sounds very capitalistic, but
32:12
Speaker 1: you need to take a business class. You need to
32:14
Speaker 1: do how to basic invoices, like all those things. Yes,
32:17
Speaker 1: that's counting on your own. If you're studying art, take
32:22
Speaker 1: a business class, tax learn, learn, yes, like it's it's
32:28
Speaker 1: it's really important. And Faya has really taught me a
32:31
Speaker 1: lot of those things and so like and and this
32:34
Speaker 1: is something I always tell Fi And I'm like, you
32:35
Speaker 1: have so much knowledge, like she needs to write a book,
32:37
Speaker 1: like you know, you know how to do stuff like that. Oh,
32:41
Speaker 1: there's so much knowledge that we have. There's so much knowledge,
32:44
Speaker 1: a lot of projects we need to do. It's and
32:46
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody. I was talking to Ruth,
32:48
Speaker 1: Ruth and Truth Visuals. I was talking to Ruth and
32:50
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, honestly, I don't believe that
32:53
Speaker 1: any of these suckers in Hollywood, these major directors, none
32:56
Speaker 1: of them are any smarter than us. They're not more talented. Clearly,
32:59
Speaker 1: they're not have you smarter, They're not more talented. They're
33:01
Speaker 1: not geniuses. They're really not. There are people who with
33:04
Speaker 1: an idea who have money and connect connected. The difference
33:08
Speaker 1: is the funding and the connections and the investment. Yeah,
33:11
Speaker 1: and the investment. And I like that you bring up
33:13
Speaker 1: Ray too, because and we've talked about this also. She
33:15
Speaker 1: in an interview. She was talking about you know, build horizontally,
33:19
Speaker 1: like work with your friends, and that's what she did
33:22
Speaker 1: and I like that and that's what has been Like
33:24
Speaker 1: this morning we had a photo shoot with Adriana and
33:26
Speaker 1: Adrianna has like designed her logo, she designed her pains
33:29
Speaker 1: that have just come to ask me because it's like
33:31
Speaker 1: amazing did and graphic designer. She's a graphic designer. Sizzle
33:36
Speaker 1: has like with obviously she's like that's my husband. You
33:40
Speaker 1: know that. Well, Sizzle will come back into the hold later.
33:44
Speaker 1: I think this is a good time to transition. You
33:47
Speaker 1: were talking about undocumented filmmakers and you know the film medium,
33:51
Speaker 1: and I know that there's an installation coming up that
33:53
Speaker 1: has with that. You want to tell you more about that,
33:56
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited. So actually the Fault TV as
34:00
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of like Diane Garrero's coming with Grero.
34:05
Speaker 1: I think she's like having doing a show that she's
34:07
Speaker 1: got greenlit. Um. There's other shows that are like you know,
34:10
Speaker 1: around immigration, um. And I think right now immigration and
34:14
Speaker 1: dreamers were like a hot topic because people want to
34:16
Speaker 1: talk about it. But I'm like we've been creating on
34:19
Speaker 1: content like we like there's there's this for a long time.
34:24
Speaker 1: Undocumented people having creating content like video content. UM one
34:29
Speaker 1: of the one of the first documentaries that I saw
34:33
Speaker 1: where I saw what I saw like our actual experience
34:36
Speaker 1: as some documented youth at the time, I was using
34:38
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven Tom Trent. It was she was
34:42
Speaker 1: a filmmaker. She unfortunately passed away in a car accident,
34:45
Speaker 1: and she was like a hardcore activist for the dream Act.
34:49
Speaker 1: And so she made this documentary call Lost and Found,
34:53
Speaker 1: and it follows the student to some documented students from
34:56
Speaker 1: u c l A. And she's the struggles that it
34:58
Speaker 1: was like, you know, again at the time, we were
35:00
Speaker 1: trying to pass a dream bag when it was much
35:02
Speaker 1: about the you know, the what it's like to be
35:04
Speaker 1: on a documented student. But like she made she she
35:07
Speaker 1: created this and and to me like the fact that
35:10
Speaker 1: not a lot of people outside of the un documented
35:11
Speaker 1: community know this, I'm like earlier this year, I was like,
35:14
Speaker 1: I need to like figure out how can we an archives.
35:17
Speaker 1: So I started like looking up and and really like
35:19
Speaker 1: hitting up friends that I knew that had created stuff.
35:23
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wanna, you know, start doing
35:26
Speaker 1: like a like a timeline or an archive. And so
35:28
Speaker 1: through Culture Strike, using the hashtag on document Film Thursday,
35:32
Speaker 1: we've been posting a filmmaker, highlighting a filmmaker and their work,
35:37
Speaker 1: and that's all going to be put in display. Um
35:42
Speaker 1: I think I can say it now. Hopeby by the
35:44
Speaker 1: time this comes out. So LA Leave which stands for
35:47
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival at the Chinese Theater,
35:51
Speaker 1: which is happening in June. Um. Uh. We're collaborating with
35:55
Speaker 1: Raphaesparsa and putting this installation where we're gonna show a timeline,
35:59
Speaker 1: you know, of all this of this videos, and we're
36:02
Speaker 1: showing fifteen videos and that's only a small timeline. I'm
36:07
Speaker 1: seeing visions of your own undocumented film festival. Let's plant
36:13
Speaker 1: plus yeah, cans cans no, Yeah, Like I I think,
36:24
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm really I was once when
36:28
Speaker 1: we're doing we're doing a walk through the space, and
36:31
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I remember when I was in
36:34
Speaker 1: high school, I used to take the bus from Long
36:36
Speaker 1: Beach the Blue Line to the Red Lights and I
36:39
Speaker 1: just walk around Hollywood Boulevard being well, just walking around there,
36:44
Speaker 1: you know, walking around being like apperly, flirting with people
36:47
Speaker 1: and like just being a teenager. No. I used to
36:50
Speaker 1: take the and just like drawing on the train. But
36:52
Speaker 1: I'm like, and now we're here putting this installation together,
36:55
Speaker 1: Like I was just like yeah. I was just like yeah,
36:57
Speaker 1: like like raped because I never done installation and I
37:02
Speaker 1: was like I wanted to, you know, hit up somebody
37:04
Speaker 1: who knew and you know, how to put this together.
37:06
Speaker 1: And so Drap I was like I told him about
37:09
Speaker 1: the concept and he was like yeah, I'm down, Like
37:11
Speaker 1: what can I do? And so that's in collaboration with
37:15
Speaker 1: l Leaf and Culture Strikes. So we're doing that and
37:18
Speaker 1: and we're the installation is going to be open. The
37:21
Speaker 1: film was going to go from June, but on June
37:24
Speaker 1: two is when we're trying to plant something and what
37:27
Speaker 1: is the name of the installation for people who want
37:29
Speaker 1: to look it up and go see it? And that
37:31
Speaker 1: and the installation is Concasa is wait, no, hold on,
37:35
Speaker 1: we just we literally just came up with a name.
37:37
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're pretty on the spot, like literally
37:40
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like it's literally about having cameras and uh,
37:44
Speaker 1: you know, because again like I don't need papers to
37:48
Speaker 1: create I don't I don't need I always say this
37:51
Speaker 1: like I'm like, if I get deported all the ship
37:54
Speaker 1: like I might get physically important, but all the ship
37:55
Speaker 1: that I created, all the things that I have in
37:57
Speaker 1: my mind that it can be deported, and so and
38:00
Speaker 1: so to me, I'm like I wanted again, you know,
38:02
Speaker 1: like I wanted to like, you know, acknowledge all this
38:05
Speaker 1: amazing folks. Nancy Messa is another one. She's like a
38:09
Speaker 1: great she's an activist here from from from boil Hides,
38:14
Speaker 1: and she was part of this film called Limbo and
38:18
Speaker 1: they basically, uh, you know, they took cameras and they
38:22
Speaker 1: were recording their experiences and they put it together in
38:25
Speaker 1: this film. And I'm like, how do people don't know
38:27
Speaker 1: this film? You know, like we need to have And
38:28
Speaker 1: so to me again like it's it's a it's a
38:30
Speaker 1: kind of like a visual timeline of all these things
38:34
Speaker 1: that have been creating. That's beautiful, so much going on,
38:37
Speaker 1: so much exciting stuff going on. And there's a party
38:39
Speaker 1: also that you're because you know, all the for those
38:43
Speaker 1: of you who don't know anybody who goes to does
38:47
Speaker 1: all the beautiful, amazing, fabulous, colorful flyers if you haven't been, uh,
38:56
Speaker 1: it's a party that was started by DJ Sisle and
39:00
Speaker 1: her friend norms and I'm badass, you know, undocumented women
39:05
Speaker 1: of color, you know, and creating a space for for
39:09
Speaker 1: for undocumented folks, career people, uh, women to co and
39:13
Speaker 1: like party without like having to like worry about you know,
39:16
Speaker 1: assholes and all that stuff and and and and not
39:18
Speaker 1: being in like toxic spaces. So she's not fun and
39:21
Speaker 1: so yeah, like like I just love Si so because
39:24
Speaker 1: like she's she's just over the place. Yeah and so
39:28
Speaker 1: um so we're coming. So I you know, actually I was.
39:31
Speaker 1: I was living in the Bay Area when the party started,
39:34
Speaker 1: and I was looking from Afar and I was like
39:37
Speaker 1: I want to be part of that. Like I'm like,
39:39
Speaker 1: how can I help? And it was I came to
39:41
Speaker 1: stel and I was like, girl, like, let me help
39:43
Speaker 1: you with the flyers, like I wanted. I wanted a
39:44
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that I do is like very
39:46
Speaker 1: heavy political stuff. And what she's doing, you know, creating
39:50
Speaker 1: this space and she just having fun and because all
39:53
Speaker 1: the ship that we see on the news, like we
39:55
Speaker 1: need to be able to like go to space. And
39:56
Speaker 1: she danced it, danced it up like yes, yeah, yes, yes,
40:03
Speaker 1: and so I was like I was like, I was like, girl,
40:04
Speaker 1: how can I help, and so she was like, oh, well,
40:06
Speaker 1: like you know, so I do the flyers and that's
40:09
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And then also there's another crew
40:13
Speaker 1: that does uh this space um Scum Scum party um
40:18
Speaker 1: and it's by Rudy Blue and he used to be
40:21
Speaker 1: part of the Money Can Collective Shout Out Yes. And
40:25
Speaker 1: what I love about is that if I grew up
40:28
Speaker 1: as an alternative rock listening, no doubt that was me.
40:33
Speaker 1: That was like all the colors and in the rainbow
40:35
Speaker 1: in my hair I have, Yeah, that was me. So
40:38
Speaker 1: they have this party called scumb there was actually last
40:41
Speaker 1: night they had one. That's why I'm a little bit
40:44
Speaker 1: I'm hungover Chicos. They do this party and so scum
40:50
Speaker 1: and is coming together and we're going to have a
40:53
Speaker 1: party and it's it's it's one of the It was like,
40:56
Speaker 1: this is one of the parties that we're having because
40:57
Speaker 1: it's a it's a one year celebration for going it's
41:01
Speaker 1: gonna turn one year old. And so like why the
41:03
Speaker 1: first party June fifteen here boil highs at first three buillards. Uh,
41:08
Speaker 1: It's it's right here on on first on first Street,
41:11
Speaker 1: right in front of the gym's Burgers. But I'm really excited.
41:13
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. Um, you know, there's gonna be drag queens.
41:17
Speaker 1: Selto who's like an amazing drag queen. My friend, my
41:20
Speaker 1: friend Laddie's who that does like this great impersonation of
41:23
Speaker 1: Cruz Like it's gonna be. It's gonna be like sucking
41:27
Speaker 1: new wave music, Cumbia and new wave music, like it's
41:31
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's it's like a look at, look out
41:34
Speaker 1: for the flyers. It's gonna be coming. So but June fifteen,
41:36
Speaker 1: June fifteen, are your calendar has come through? Is that
41:38
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go. We're gonna have absolutely really
41:41
Speaker 1: have to I love parties are really good. It's it's
41:45
Speaker 1: it's such it's such a good time. And yeah, like
41:48
Speaker 1: I always think about how and again I tellus, I'm like, girl,
41:52
Speaker 1: you're you're making a space for people to to like
41:57
Speaker 1: just come and have fun. And like I think those
42:00
Speaker 1: spaces are sacred, Like those spaces aren't necessary. And people,
42:04
Speaker 1: it's just a party. Well, it's more than a party.
42:06
Speaker 1: It's more than you're not Like if you're not a
42:09
Speaker 1: queer woman of color, a queer person, like you don't
42:11
Speaker 1: understand like the party space and how it's a sanctuary
42:15
Speaker 1: for us in many ways. You know, we talk about
42:17
Speaker 1: the party is politics, like yes, here on the podcast,
42:21
Speaker 1: we love the party. We love to dance. And also
42:24
Speaker 1: like in the context because it's a survivors centered podcast,
42:27
Speaker 1: taking back the night, taking back the bar, taking back
42:30
Speaker 1: the club, and I should be able to go out
42:32
Speaker 1: and have fun and get drunk with my friends and
42:35
Speaker 1: like not be in dangerous exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and and
42:38
Speaker 1: and that's that I appreciate you know, a sistele for like,
42:41
Speaker 1: you know, handling and like fucking doing. I'm just like
42:45
Speaker 1: and and this is again like I've gotten head up
42:48
Speaker 1: because people think that I'm behind of course, and also
42:53
Speaker 1: like I automatically as a male, like you must be
42:56
Speaker 1: in charge, must be the one who was like no,
42:59
Speaker 1: first of all, I actually like came Stila Norms started
43:04
Speaker 1: this and shout out to shout out to their podcast,
43:09
Speaker 1: new podcast, new podcast, new podcast, live broadcast, live radio,
43:14
Speaker 1: what they call jo journalists on Tuesday. Yes, Tuesday's here. Yes,
43:20
Speaker 1: And so I'm a girl like I we went we went, Okay,
43:24
Speaker 1: so we went to we went to go see doesn't
43:27
Speaker 1: Bronco And at the Staples Center and I'm like, sist,
43:32
Speaker 1: I see you here Staple standard, Like I see it.
43:37
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to be out there. Yes, because
43:40
Speaker 1: she curates, She curates. She knows what she's doing, having
43:45
Speaker 1: work now worked with Sizzle for an actual like to
43:48
Speaker 1: see everything that she puts into her night unto like
43:52
Speaker 1: taking care of her DJs, the vendors, her line up,
43:55
Speaker 1: her schedule, everything, everything, everything. It's really cute. We keep
43:59
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing, love you, my husband. And speaking
44:03
Speaker 1: of having fun, what's the what's dating? Like on TV?
44:11
Speaker 1: You're working on TV, You're here, You're there, She's she's
44:15
Speaker 1: like an extra for a little bit. And all of
44:17
Speaker 1: a sudden, Well we were talking about like do you
44:21
Speaker 1: because I was so okay, so I as a personal size,
44:25
Speaker 1: like I grew up very like kind of shine, like
44:28
Speaker 1: I'm not like guys didn't really come to me, you know,
44:32
Speaker 1: and like what's up Like well, I mean I don't know,
44:37
Speaker 1: like like whenever. And I'm talking about like you know,
44:40
Speaker 1: when I go to Gate when I used to go
44:41
Speaker 1: to Gate clubs when I was like younger and like
44:43
Speaker 1: weiho right, And there's like there's a specific beauty standard
44:47
Speaker 1: within the gate community that like, I clearly I'm not
44:49
Speaker 1: a muscle guy, and so if you're Latino, you're like
44:52
Speaker 1: have to look a certain way or you're not look that.
44:54
Speaker 1: And so I like that ship like funk with me.
44:57
Speaker 1: And so when I started, like, you know, it's so
45:00
Speaker 1: weird to call them fans, like, you know, but people
45:02
Speaker 1: I support my work, you know, start hitting me up.
45:05
Speaker 1: And then there's like a conversation terms of flirtatious and
45:07
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's like are we flirting? Are we
45:11
Speaker 1: talking to each other? Like are you talking to me
45:13
Speaker 1: because you think I'm cute? Are you talking to me
45:16
Speaker 1: because you admire the work? Like I like, it's weird.
45:20
Speaker 1: It's exactly exactly like would you talk to me? We
45:23
Speaker 1: were at the bar, you know who it was like.
45:25
Speaker 1: And again it's like a very small like it's not
45:27
Speaker 1: like I'm like walking down the street and people are
45:29
Speaker 1: like that like that what happens? Yeah and so and
45:34
Speaker 1: and also yeah, and also there's that and also like
45:36
Speaker 1: I also you know, don't want to take advantage of that,
45:38
Speaker 1: like you know, there's there's you know, there's people who
45:41
Speaker 1: take a man. It's like it's like a weird power dynamic.
45:43
Speaker 1: You know, I've mentioned it before. We're like I'll go
45:45
Speaker 1: to colleges and you know, like young queer people, like
45:49
Speaker 1: you know, they see you and they're like, oh my god,
45:51
Speaker 1: I see there's something about that that you're like, oh
45:53
Speaker 1: my god, I want to talk to you. But like
45:55
Speaker 1: you have to be able to like not take advantage
45:58
Speaker 1: of your power and so so. But then time and
46:00
Speaker 1: then there's like the weirdos who hit you up. I see,
46:06
Speaker 1: what is your experience? Like, okay, so so we sort
46:11
Speaker 1: of have I mean, okay, we have a general rule.
46:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, how we have I think we have a
46:21
Speaker 1: general rule about like not dating our listeners. It's a
46:26
Speaker 1: it's a good rule. And like we were talking about
46:28
Speaker 1: before we started recording, we've had experiences of like people, Okay,
46:32
Speaker 1: we we do get recognized when we're out in public.
46:35
Speaker 1: The women Moohanna's will come up to us and make
46:38
Speaker 1: it known that they recognize us, and they'll talk to us.
46:41
Speaker 1: But if I've had the experience of like I come
46:43
Speaker 1: home from something or a couple there's an event, and
46:46
Speaker 1: a couple of days later or a couple of weeks later,
46:48
Speaker 1: I get a random d M from a random ass
46:50
Speaker 1: dude who's like, oh, I saw you at X, Y
46:52
Speaker 1: and Z place and you were wearing this, and like
46:56
Speaker 1: definitely saw me, but I couldn't tell you who homeboy was.
46:59
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Don't do that. That type of
47:02
Speaker 1: stuff freaks me out because I'm like, I don't know
47:04
Speaker 1: when who's looking at me and who knows too much
47:06
Speaker 1: about me or what. At any given time. If I'm
47:09
Speaker 1: downtown and I'm on the east Side, it does happen.
47:11
Speaker 1: I wasn't the Metro the other day. I wasn't in
47:13
Speaker 1: the met I was in the Red Line. I was
47:16
Speaker 1: coming home. And then I get home and I get
47:18
Speaker 1: a DM and as this guy he sends me a
47:21
Speaker 1: picture of me waiting for the trip. He was like,
47:24
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't want to. I know, this is weird.
47:27
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's kind of weird, but I saw you.
47:30
Speaker 1: I saw you at the at the at the seventh
47:32
Speaker 1: Street Metro station and he sent me a picture, and
47:35
Speaker 1: I was like, part of me was like that, with
47:38
Speaker 1: part me is like, oh my god, the stalker stop it.
47:44
Speaker 1: No that He's like, yeah, I know, it's like everywhere.
47:48
Speaker 1: So I was like, another thing is you never know
47:54
Speaker 1: a little bit, I'm not gonna not better, but yeah,
47:56
Speaker 1: it's it's just like it's like, you know, like like
48:00
Speaker 1: place of work, Like no, I don't want to date
48:03
Speaker 1: anybody who's like my coworker, Like you know, if it's
48:06
Speaker 1: like about what you know, You're like, no, it's messy.
48:09
Speaker 1: I would rather I'm really into like, um only right now,
48:12
Speaker 1: hooking up with people who are just visiting from out
48:15
Speaker 1: of town and who are leaving every day, that's a
48:18
Speaker 1: good one. That's a good one. Okay, So because I
48:22
Speaker 1: travel because and like you know, she she has grinders
48:26
Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes I hooked up with this guy one
48:28
Speaker 1: time and grind her came over to my hotel. You
48:30
Speaker 1: know what happens, you know, it did the dirty Bob
48:32
Speaker 1: or whatever. He was like, oh, you know, like let's
48:34
Speaker 1: keep in touch Facebook whatever. I'm like, okay, sure it
48:36
Speaker 1: was a white guy. I get the benefit of the doubt,
48:38
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, you know, cool, gave me
48:41
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, and then he gave me
48:43
Speaker 1: his Facebook and then he left, and then I'm like,
48:45
Speaker 1: let me see what I hooked up with girl. One
48:47
Speaker 1: of the first things, one of the first posts that
48:49
Speaker 1: I saw it was like from Blue Lives Matter, and
48:52
Speaker 1: then like I keep scrolling and it's like he has
48:54
Speaker 1: like an article pole still, an article from Bravard, you know,
48:58
Speaker 1: illegal alien criminal, you left. I'm like, you give white
49:07
Speaker 1: people the benefit of the doubt and the competition deserve
49:10
Speaker 1: the benefit of at this point, they don't. I was
49:13
Speaker 1: I was lonely. I was like in Minnesota or something
49:16
Speaker 1: like the Yeah. Yeah, it was like, you know, very
49:22
Speaker 1: limited options. But I was just like low key. I
49:26
Speaker 1: kind of want to be like you know who you
49:27
Speaker 1: looked up with, right, but you know I didn't. So
49:31
Speaker 1: I was like that's the thing like with with stranger,
49:33
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, anonymous or whatever, it's like
49:37
Speaker 1: you never know. But like the good thing about it's
49:39
Speaker 1: like I'm never going to see him again because like
49:41
Speaker 1: you know, I left, So I guess that's like that's
49:43
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what you kind of put in
49:46
Speaker 1: like when you're when you're doing that, you kind of
49:49
Speaker 1: the distance helps, Yeah, because no, I don't want to
49:53
Speaker 1: run into you. I don't want to run Yeah, girl,
49:56
Speaker 1: Like that's why friends don't give me faces, don't make
50:03
Speaker 1: faces of me. I know all the secrets. She does
50:09
Speaker 1: know all the sea I want to say. I want
50:11
Speaker 1: to let it be known that if you are a
50:13
Speaker 1: man with a girlfriend or you are DM, I know
50:19
Speaker 1: about it. I know about it. So I just want
50:23
Speaker 1: it to be know. I've seen the messages. We're not
50:26
Speaker 1: naming names today, but there's a number of like Latino
50:31
Speaker 1: men who are in the industry and in the world
50:33
Speaker 1: and who are creators who have their very public girlfriends
50:36
Speaker 1: all over the pages that be in everybody's d M,
50:40
Speaker 1: responding to all the i G stories, d ms on Instagram,
50:44
Speaker 1: d M on Twitter, sending Facebook firm requests. Homeboy, I
50:48
Speaker 1: know about it, homeboys, and I'm shaming you. Don't do it?
50:53
Speaker 1: You know what the first time? Don't I shouldn't even
51:00
Speaker 1: say no, Like okay, So that's a young gay man iven.
51:05
Speaker 1: Um uh. Like back in the day before there was grinder,
51:09
Speaker 1: before there was all that stuff, Um, there was party lines.
51:13
Speaker 1: Did you ever called party lines? A little a little
51:16
Speaker 1: bit at a little a little bit younger? She studied poor,
51:19
Speaker 1: but she looks like she's not. Yeah. No. So I
51:22
Speaker 1: met this guy on a party line and then we
51:25
Speaker 1: met up. I was eighteen. We met up at Union
51:28
Speaker 1: Station and he picked me up from he lived in
51:30
Speaker 1: the valley and so he picked me up. We don't
51:32
Speaker 1: do the valley, okay, but anyway, so he picks me up.
51:42
Speaker 1: He was like, let's go back to my place, and
51:43
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's go. So I go to
51:45
Speaker 1: his house and I'm like, looking up, there's like pictures
51:49
Speaker 1: of like him, like a lady and kids, and I'm like,
51:52
Speaker 1: are you married? He was like, oh, but it's fine,
51:57
Speaker 1: married man, listen and okay, look and I understand sexuality
52:02
Speaker 1: and he was left, you know, and like, you know,
52:04
Speaker 1: being queer, it's like it's like a taboo. Although I'm
52:07
Speaker 1: hoping that things are changing, and like, you know, the
52:09
Speaker 1: way that we see, you know, especially if you're queer,
52:11
Speaker 1: and people in the d L, Like, I'm not shaming
52:14
Speaker 1: man in the d L. It's it's funked up that
52:16
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, doing this. But that's why I
52:19
Speaker 1: feel like open relationships are the way to go. Like
52:22
Speaker 1: I tried, honestly, open, honest, honestly that somebody had somebody
52:29
Speaker 1: tell me I'm in a non monogamous exclusive relationship. I'm like,
52:35
Speaker 1: that sounds of a girlfriend. Monogamous exclusive relationships like that
52:40
Speaker 1: sounds like a fiance. And he's like, no, mo anogamous
52:42
Speaker 1: committed not monogamous committed relationship. I'm like, if it was
52:46
Speaker 1: a truly open relationship, you would have just sent that
52:48
Speaker 1: yeah words exactly. No, it's it's a true. Look. I
52:53
Speaker 1: I was in my last relationship, like you know that
52:56
Speaker 1: I was in amazing good Man and you know, that
53:01
Speaker 1: was my first time into being an open relationship, and
53:03
Speaker 1: I part of me was like, oh my god, I'm
53:05
Speaker 1: gonna be like jealous. I'm gonna be like I met
53:08
Speaker 1: the guys that he was sleeping with and like it
53:10
Speaker 1: was cool, like they was honestly, honestly we worked up
53:14
Speaker 1: because you know, again, like I'm like he he was
53:16
Speaker 1: a good man, Like I like, I was like that
53:18
Speaker 1: was my fault. Uh, you know, like I'm a virgol.
53:23
Speaker 1: I wanted me time all the time, and he was
53:25
Speaker 1: like that's not fair. But anyways, but I learned so
53:28
Speaker 1: much about like, you know, being like and that's like
53:30
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that that's a very Bay
53:32
Speaker 1: Area and like, you know, like I feel like I've
53:35
Speaker 1: been here. When I bring it up with other guys,
53:38
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, I don't know, but I'm like,
53:40
Speaker 1: but I know you've been cheating on your men anyway.
53:43
Speaker 1: So it's like if you're gonna like they want to
53:45
Speaker 1: be able to do it, but they don't want you
53:46
Speaker 1: to actually openly, honestly be able to do And I
53:49
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to be like in straight
53:51
Speaker 1: relationships that open people like like the sneaking around, like
53:55
Speaker 1: that's what TA get off on, the lying, the deleting messages,
54:00
Speaker 1: sil of it. You know. Okay, I cheated at one time,
54:05
Speaker 1: and I mean I made I was a guy, like
54:08
Speaker 1: I made that, like I was in a relationship and
54:10
Speaker 1: then I went to Chicago and I got drawn something
54:12
Speaker 1: told me I was pretty and we made it out
54:14
Speaker 1: whatever um, but I felt really bad, like I was
54:18
Speaker 1: just like I feel horrible, like you know, like there
54:22
Speaker 1: was clearly there was issues in that relationship, but I cheated,
54:25
Speaker 1: and I felt really bad with being in this relationship
54:28
Speaker 1: when the the option the open the option of being open,
54:32
Speaker 1: like it's there, but like you don't necessarily have to
54:36
Speaker 1: like do it, you know, like you could be in
54:37
Speaker 1: openment and the whole thing is like again it comes
54:40
Speaker 1: down to communications, you know, like honey, look or whatever,
54:44
Speaker 1: and like it comes down to like note, like we
54:46
Speaker 1: are you know, especially you know, like when we're talking
54:50
Speaker 1: about sex being safe, because those those things are important
54:53
Speaker 1: because like you're affecting somebody else and that's you know,
54:57
Speaker 1: there's no stigma around like STDs and all that stuff.
54:59
Speaker 1: There's stigma, but like you're putting somebody's body like without
55:03
Speaker 1: their consent about what they're doing. And so I think
55:05
Speaker 1: that's why it's important to you know, if you're going
55:09
Speaker 1: to be doing that, like being a getting prepped. Yes,
55:12
Speaker 1: take all your precautions. We're talking about it, talk about it,
55:17
Speaker 1: talk about it because yeah, it's a lot. Like you're saying,
55:20
Speaker 1: what ends up happening more often than not is all
55:23
Speaker 1: these married people who are sneaking around not being safe
55:26
Speaker 1: and then giving STDs to their partner. That happened to
55:29
Speaker 1: somebody that you know recently, Right, It's like it's really
55:33
Speaker 1: a thing, So don't do that. I think the wind
55:37
Speaker 1: you're coming to somebody else. Same. It's been a really fun, fun,
55:44
Speaker 1: so much episode, Julio, Thank you so much for coming,
55:47
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. Do you want to just
55:50
Speaker 1: plug like for everybody where people can continue to follow
55:52
Speaker 1: their work and upcoming projects. Yeah, my website, dot com,
55:58
Speaker 1: my instagram is at L eighty three. Yes, um, I
56:02
Speaker 1: was born three most I think right now. Instagram is
56:06
Speaker 1: like where I put all my work. And so if
56:07
Speaker 1: you follow me on Instagram, don't judge my my install
56:10
Speaker 1: stories because nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect, and that makes um
56:18
Speaker 1: and then uh yeah, and and and remember scot it's
56:22
Speaker 1: happening during fifteen and la leave the film Festival. It's
56:26
Speaker 1: happening in June. So follow me and follow culture Strike too,
56:32
Speaker 1: because we're doing the installation through Culture Strike. Thank you
56:36
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