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206: Bigfoot: Myths and Legends · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't recording.
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  Speaker 1: Was I supposed to be?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 1: Brian's just sitting.
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  Speaker 2: each other... I'm ready.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, this is Lance Henderson, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 8: Well, sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, this is a special edition episode.
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  Speaker 9: During our recent Bigfoot episode, we veered off, like we
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  Speaker 9: often do, our normal movie topic and started talking about
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  Speaker 9: some real Bigfoot stories and some real Bigfoot experiences that
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  Speaker 9: were actually so fascinating that I kind of left it
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  Speaker 9: as its own episode. I was like, this is really interesting.
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  Speaker 9: And I think, you know, even if you're not a
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  Speaker 9: Bigfoot kind of person, I mean, we had half of
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  Speaker 9: the people here with stories and the other half were
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  Speaker 9: sort of, you know, in the skeptic end. So we
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  Speaker 9: kind of We're all just sort of sitting here listening
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  Speaker 9: to stories. And whether you believe in it or not,
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  Speaker 9: there's some.
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  Speaker 1: Really interesting stories that come into play here.
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  Speaker 9: So if you are looking for normal movie meltdown rambling
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  Speaker 9: about movies, this is not it. Fair warning, there's not
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  Speaker 9: really any movie talk in this at all. We're just
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  Speaker 9: talking Bigfoot and personal stories and, you know, what theories
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  Speaker 9: are out there and stuff like that. But that aside,
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  Speaker 9: it's really interesting and I like it. What we captured there,
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  Speaker 9: and I wanted to put it together as an episode.
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  Speaker 9: So this is it as it happened midway in. We
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  Speaker 9: just sort of launched into this special edition Bigfoot episode.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to leave it at that.
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  Speaker 9: Once again, it's the same crew that we had on the...
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  Speaker 9: That wonderful sci-fi movie Bigfoot episode.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I was there.
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  Speaker 9: Dave was with us.
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  Speaker 10: Bo was with us.
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  Speaker 9: Ben was sitting in from Tower of Technobabble. And Greg
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  Speaker 9: and our usual Ben were also here. So it's the
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  Speaker 9: same lineup from there. And we veer off into some
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  Speaker 9: real-world Bigfoot stories. So we'll take a break here and
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  Speaker 9: come back in the middle of the story session.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoy it. I think it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: damn interesting.
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  Speaker 11: The swamps of Southern Arkansas. It's here that decades ago
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  Speaker 11: a legend was born. The legend of a huge, hairy,
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  Speaker 11: man-like creature. Is it man or is it myth? No
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  Speaker 11: one really knows. We're looking for the Boggy Creek Creatures.
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  Speaker 1: If you can take.
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  Speaker 5: My word for it, there ain't no monsters around here.
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  Speaker 11: Hey, boy, where do you think you're going to find
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  Speaker 11: that monster? I'm going to find him in the swamp
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  Speaker 11: if it exists.
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  Speaker 8: He's been seen over a hundred times since.
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  Speaker 5: The early 50s.
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  Speaker 1: Seen by who?
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  Speaker 11: Drunks or city folks like you all want your names
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  Speaker 11: in the newspaper?
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  Speaker 4: Something's out there, and it's heading toward Tanya.
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  Speaker 5: Tell him to come in, Brian.
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  Speaker 12: Come on.
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  Speaker 10: Get in.
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  Speaker 11: Walk.
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  Speaker 10: Is it him?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: Keep going.
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  Speaker 11: You better say something.
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  Speaker 4: part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen enough movies.
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  Speaker 3: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
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  Speaker 3: on with the show.
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  Speaker 4: It's time for Tales from the Cryptids. The Bigfoot Five.
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  Speaker 14: The second time when he saw a custom bear growing
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  Speaker 14: up in his mind The hatchet-throwing sasquatch turned and peered
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  Speaker 14: With a look that wild animals do and feared And
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  Speaker 14: they feared the hatchet-throwing sasquatch.
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  Speaker 5: Talk about our experiences. I don't.
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  Speaker 10: Know what that entails.
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  Speaker 9: Mine are minor, mine are minor compared to yours.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm skeptical about mine anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Yours are just fucked.
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  Speaker 1: So these are for show purposes, right? You're publicly announcing
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  Speaker 1: these findings?
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  Speaker 7: To a degree.
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  Speaker 2: I at least have some footage of something on the
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  Speaker 2: one from when I was filming Balloons on the Police.
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  Speaker 5: There's weird corroborative stuff about it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's all in the same nick of the woods.
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  Speaker 1: So you found Bigfoot, aside from on Facebook.
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  Speaker 8: I once was in a tent. thought that I heard Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: See we should just be recording because all of us
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  Speaker 2: have stories I guarantee you this is all part of
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  Speaker 2: it's already on oh it's still rolling okay we're back hello.
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  Speaker 5: It's like we're on a campfire just have crickets in
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  Speaker 5: the background everybody's telling Bigfoot stories you know.
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  Speaker 1: So do you want to continue on with your stories or.
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  Speaker 5: Sure well there's a lead into that in that I
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  Speaker 5: know a local Bigfoot investigator who's a lot less crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Than many But enthusiastic all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Very enthusiastic guy. They do KentuckyBigFoot.com.
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  Speaker 12: Can you give his name?
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  Speaker 5: Charlie Raymond.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And Charlie's a pretty cool guy.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: And Charlie's got a pretty good hand on his shoulder.
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  Speaker 5: He's an educator. And he knows about some things that
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  Speaker 5: happened to me that are very odd. And we got
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  Speaker 5: to talking, and I think he needed some equipment, maybe
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  Speaker 5: to do some filming or something.
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  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: And right around the same time, you had been shooting
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  Speaker 5: your last picture. And something interesting happened in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of the night while they were shooting. That's how we
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  Speaker 5: all kind of hooked up, but I'll throw it over
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  Speaker 5: to Bo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, that night, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: prior to that, actually, Hugh had mentioned to me, that
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  Speaker 2: was back when you got back into Bigfoot. And at
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  Speaker 2: that point, you know, I was never, like, huge into
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot to me. Again, I always dug, like, Mothman or
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  Speaker 2: the Flatwoods Monster, all the offbeat ones were what I dug.
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  Speaker 2: But I was telling a story about just one night
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  Speaker 2: when I got home late from the theater. And my
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  Speaker 2: parents live out in Claremont, by, like, the Jim Beam Distillery,
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  Speaker 2: and this was when I was still at home, and
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  Speaker 2: it was after we'd had Rocky at the theater, so
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  Speaker 2: I was getting.
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  Speaker 15: Home 3, 3.30 in the morning, and it's just a
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  Speaker 15: very strange thing, because I was getting stuff out of
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  Speaker 15: the car, just books and that, and I swear I heard,
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  Speaker 15: just like, coming across the valley where we live.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very, very heavily wooded area where they live.
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  Speaker 2: Just hearing sort of like a hello or hey-bo. The
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  Speaker 2: downside to my name is if somebody says hello, it
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  Speaker 2: could be hey-bo and I don't know. But I heard
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  Speaker 2: that come across the valley and I just stopped. And
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  Speaker 2: I remember thinking, well, I need to stop and listen
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  Speaker 2: because if I just keep shuffling papers and shuffling books,
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  Speaker 2: I could mishear and I would swear that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just misheard something. So I just stopped, froze my tracks,
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  Speaker 2: and just listened to the night.
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  Speaker 7: And this was.
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  Speaker 5: In like a November.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was pretty cold out. But I just
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  Speaker 2: remember standing and listening and just very vividly hearing like
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  Speaker 2: the hello again. At which point, you know, it freaked
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  Speaker 2: me out because out there, they didn't have the porch
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  Speaker 2: light on, so it's pitch, pitch black. And I just
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  Speaker 2: started scrambling. for the door and i could have sworn
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  Speaker 2: i just heard this voice just out in the woods
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  Speaker 2: out in the blackness just sort of saying like where
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  Speaker 2: are you going or something sort of like that i
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  Speaker 2: couldn't quite make it out and then got into the
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  Speaker 2: house and just for some reason one of the windows
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  Speaker 2: was like cracked open i just very vividly heard like
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  Speaker 2: a baby crying or something like that but just very
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  Speaker 2: very loud and never heard anything like that before because
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  Speaker 2: just you know i've lived in the sticks for most
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  Speaker 2: of my life so i'm used to all the sounds
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  Speaker 2: of the woods and that you know It just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: throw me off. But it was just kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: And then Dave mentioned, he's like, well, that sounds similar
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  Speaker 2: to some Bigfoot thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's people over there. There's all kinds of theories
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  Speaker 5: about noises people hear. And some people say Bigfoot's a
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  Speaker 5: great mimic, which could be a good excuse to call
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  Speaker 5: anything Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 8: That's true, too.
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  Speaker 5: But there are several patterns that seem to prop up,
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  Speaker 5: and one of them is it sounds almost like a
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  Speaker 5: baby crying. And sometimes they even describe mimicry of like
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  Speaker 5: a human voice will go on.
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  Speaker 7: You know what's funny?
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  Speaker 12: The whole mimicry... And the baby crying thing, that is
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  Speaker 12: what a lot of people say the Popelik monster is
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  Speaker 12: supposed to do. And when I was looking into the
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  Speaker 12: Popelik story, there is no signature case. It's pretty much
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  Speaker 12: a campfire story. The only kind of real tangible case
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  Speaker 12: is this story in either the 30s or the 40s about,
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  Speaker 12: a group of Boy Scouts getting attacked by it. So again,
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  Speaker 12: campfire stories probably all made up, but it was in
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  Speaker 12: a time period before the term Bigfoot came into the
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  Speaker 12: national consciousness. So if it had been after 58, after Bigfoot,
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  Speaker 12: a term had gotten popular, they probably would have said,
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  Speaker 12: that it was a Bigfoot, but they didn't know that word,
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  Speaker 12: so they described it as something else.
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  Speaker 2: So this state actually does.
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  Speaker 12: Have kind of an interesting history with wild men or
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  Speaker 12: monstrous type of things out there.
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  Speaker 2: But it was weird, and it was actually after right
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  Speaker 2: about the time that you'd mentioned that there had been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of sightings and other incidents in that particular valley.
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  Speaker 2: I was just filming for one of my low-budget things,
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  Speaker 2: and it was.
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  Speaker 7: It was late.
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  Speaker 2: It was probably about 2 in the morning. We were
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  Speaker 2: out there filming. It was me and three other fellows.
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  Speaker 2: And we were just filming on my parents' property. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the actors had decided he wanted to change
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  Speaker 2: something around. In the scene prior, they get visited by
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  Speaker 2: the ghost of the woods. And he tells them, he's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what the greatest killer in these woods are?
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  Speaker 2: And I think the line I'd originally written was peacocks. Like,
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  Speaker 2: he's just like, peacocks? It's just like some stupid guess.
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  Speaker 2: But then he's like, no, let's change it to Sasquatch.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I was just open for whatever we wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: So they're in this scene where basically they're wandering around
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  Speaker 2: in the woods and they keep hearing sounds. And just
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  Speaker 2: one of them just overreacts completely. And he just screams, Sasquatch!
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  Speaker 2: And runs off into the night. Well, in this one
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  Speaker 2: take that I've got on video, he... screams Sasquatch and
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  Speaker 2: runs off, and Wade just kind of laughs, like, you
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  Speaker 2: ran the wrong way, and he knocks the light over,
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  Speaker 2: so it's completely pitch black. And then, like, in that
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  Speaker 2: little lull when nobody's saying anything, you hear this very
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  Speaker 2: bizarre sound. I mean, that's the only way to describe it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like, I don't know, it's just, it's not bird-like,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not, you know, like a cougar or coyote
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  Speaker 2: or anything. It's just very odd.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's a strange noise.
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  Speaker 2: And at that point, we're all just like, my brother
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  Speaker 2: was out filming too. And, you know, he's same as me,
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  Speaker 2: grew up in the woods all of life. And we
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  Speaker 2: just heard that sound. And, you know, the other guys,
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  Speaker 2: they live in the city and there's like, what's that?
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  Speaker 2: And my brother, John and I were like, shh, because
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  Speaker 2: we were like, what the hell is that? And then
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  Speaker 2: I sent it in to Charlie and he sent it
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  Speaker 2: to somebody and they couldn't figure out what the sound
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  Speaker 2: was whatsoever.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, that's just really weird.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And this was right around that time I had been
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  Speaker 5: talking to Charlie. We actually did a little driving tour
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  Speaker 5: out there.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it'd be February of 11.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: February 2011.
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  Speaker 5: He started telling me about these reports, which I'd be
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  Speaker 5: going to him heavy because they're kind of his deal.
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  Speaker 5: But it's like in Bullitt County, right around Claremont.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: And right around... The forest there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember you mentioned one of the roads.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, do you know what that is? I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's just a couple.
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  Speaker 5: There have been multiple reports since the 70s of people
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  Speaker 5: seeing stuff across the road, some dogs being slaughtered, all
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  Speaker 5: this crazy stuff had gone on. And he starts pointing
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  Speaker 5: out these spots to me, and they're all around where
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  Speaker 5: your parents live.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, that's pretty weird.
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  Speaker 2: He still wants to come out to my parents' property
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  Speaker 2: because they've got like 10 acres.
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  Speaker 5: There's a law enforcement officer out there who has seen things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who apparently lives in the same.
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  Speaker 5: Neighborhood as them.
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  Speaker 7: What time of the year was this?
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  Speaker 2: This was February.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, winter.
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  Speaker 2: And the other one was like November. So both of them,
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  Speaker 2: it was when it was like cool out, but not
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  Speaker 2: so cold. It was like snow or anything on the ground.
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  Speaker 5: So that's, you know, intriguing. The reason I introduced those
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  Speaker 5: guys is because Charlie had talked to me about something
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  Speaker 5: that I actually saw. I'm not going to hijack the show.
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  Speaker 5: It's a very elaborate story. And a good story. I
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  Speaker 5: won't deny it. And that I saw something that I
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  Speaker 5: can't describe in any other way than to say, well,
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  Speaker 5: it looked like Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 7: Where was this?
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  Speaker 5: This is at Green River State Park in Adair County.
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  Speaker 4: Where?
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  Speaker 5: Adair County.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not sure. Is that north-south?
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  Speaker 5: South. It's about 100 miles south if you're near Lake Cumberland.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And Green River Lake is there. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: had been bouncing around getting back into the Bigfoot thing
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  Speaker 5: and the Kentucky Bigfoot website had current reports. This is
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  Speaker 5: what I always like to point out, is that the
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  Speaker 5: anecdotal evidence for Bigfoot is interesting, and it can be impressive,
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  Speaker 5: especially when it's not coming from investigators, because those people
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  Speaker 5: are all mostly crazy. But just the average guy who
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  Speaker 5: walks out and sees something weird in the woods or
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  Speaker 5: hears a strange sound or things like that, those are
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  Speaker 5: interesting stories, and they go back a long way. And
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  Speaker 5: there was a story from nearby where we have a
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  Speaker 5: farm that was quite recent. Uh, it was in May
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  Speaker 5: and I was there in September and it was a
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  Speaker 5: woman who had been driving across a bridge, run away
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  Speaker 5: across this bridge. I knew exactly where the road was,
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  Speaker 5: where she said, I think I saw Bigfoot. She said,
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  Speaker 5: I was driving home from the veterinary hospital with a dog. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: she said, as I was coming down the hill, I
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  Speaker 5: saw something large and dark start walking across the road.
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  Speaker 5: It was around five in the afternoon, so it wasn't dark.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: And she said it, she slowed down because this thing
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: was kind of big. And, uh, it crossed the road
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: into this one area, and as she got closer, she
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: slowed down, and it walked back out into the middle
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: of the road and stared at her. Really?
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: I've never heard that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: And she said that it stood there literally swaying, which
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: is a known kind of behavior.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Swaying and looking at her, and then turned and walked
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: back into this area. I was like, that's cool, because
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: that's real close to where we have a farm. And
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: so I started looking into the area and spending some
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: time down there, and that's a long story. I left
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: a cam up in the woods there. The interesting thing
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: about the area where she'd seen it cross into was
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: it was a pull-off on the side of the road,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: which was essentially had become a dump, and a lot
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: of roadkill and taxidermy waste and dead deer had been
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: thrown off in that area because I pulled off and
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: was like, what the hell is this? Bone everywhere. It's
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: like a bone bed. And headless deer carcasses everywhere. And
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: a really creepy, smelly place. And I thought, well, if
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: there's something here, we already had some game cams. And
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm going to hook a game cam up
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: down on this trail that goes down to the river.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: And I was only going to leave it one night
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: because it could be stolen. People do walk down this
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: path to fish.
• 19:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah, a game can for anyone who lives in a
• 19:28
  Speaker 12: city and doesn't know. Basically, it's a camouflaged box you
• 19:32
  Speaker 12: can strap onto a tree.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a digital camera. And some of them have
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: IR and other features. And this was a cheap one.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: It had that. But I just put it up to
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: say anything walking by that's of a sufficient height will
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: set this thing off. And uh my family was marginally
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: aware of why i was down there doing that and
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: they were being polite and not calling me crazy and
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: that's nice of them my mom knew that i was
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: going to get up very early the next morning which
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: was a sunday and collect the cam and get back
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: because we had two family reunions to go to that
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: day which are a big deal down in the country
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: big extended families and I got up like crack of dawn,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: and it was like the foggiest day in the history
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: of Adair County. It was like really socked in down there.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: And she literally told me, she said, you know, if
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: you go down there this morning, nothing good's going to happen.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: And I said, well, I've got to get my camera.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: And I drove down, and it was pitch black, heavy
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: fog all the way down. I rolled up there on 730,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: collected the camera. There were a couple of shots on
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: it you could tell had snapped. and was working my
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: way back up this hill when I started hearing something
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: move in the woods nearby. But it's heavy fog, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: it could be anything.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: It could be deer.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: It's just past sunup. And got up to the car,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: put it all away, stepped back, and smelled something really funky,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: which is your classic situation. And in this case, yes,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: it was big, wet, smelly dog. And I almost laughed.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I'm like, this is such a cliched situation. Why am
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I smelling this? But it was weird because I would
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: smell it, and then I'd step up to the car,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: and I wouldn't. It was like very specifically in an area.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: And I turned and looked off the road here, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: it's right next to this big bridge, and the lake's
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: right down there below, but you can't see any of that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: It's all fogged up. And I saw something more or
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: less kind of stand up near the tree line. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I'm just staring at this, and I'm like, okay, it
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: looks like a man... And it's pretty far away. It's
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: about 80 feet in the fog. As I always say,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: it's in the fog. But it didn't look like it
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: had a head, which is the weird part. I was like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: why does this thing look headless? And the more I
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: kind of looked at it, the more it looked like
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: it had a head, but it was really low. It
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: was holding it really low. And the shoulders seemed very wide.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: And it was little more than a silhouette, but it
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: definitely was weird looking. And it was moving along the
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: tree lines. And I'm freaking out. Because even though I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: there specifically to maybe spot something, I'm not prepared to
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: actually spot something. You're ready to see Bigfoot 250 yards
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: away through a pair of binoculars or something. And there
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: were some other guys apparently out there fishing because they
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: were apparently coming under the bridge, and they were talking
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: and kind of laughing, and it was kind of loud.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: And when this whatever it was heard that, it kind
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: of let out this odd, low, kind of bawling squall.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: That's what it's like, a calf, like, rawr! And I
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: just stepped back. And it started to move along the
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: tree line in my direction. And it was freaking me out.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I was getting pretty scared pretty fast. And some odd
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: noises came out of it that didn't sound very human,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: you know. They're impossible for me to imitate, really. But
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: it really started to shake me up, and the smell
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: got a lot worse.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's coming back!
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: The smell got a lot worse, and I decided I've
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: got to get out of here. It was like a
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: raw panic, animal-like feeling. I've got to leave. Like prey
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: animal type stuff.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And I did.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I started to work around the car, and then another
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: one of those noises erupted, and it almost just kind
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: of doubled me over. I was just so scared that
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I was just almost non-coherent with that just and i
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: remember bending over and almost feeling like i should just
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: lie down on the ground here uh and it'll it'll
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: go by me walk away or something and it made
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: no sense i was like okay there's a monster coming
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: towards me play possum.
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: That is a that is a very typical reaction as
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: i so much so much so that a lot of
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: people are now thinking that bigfoot whatever it is maybe
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: produces this thing called a.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Infrasound yeah and I used to say maybe, because I
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: did feel all funny, but when you get all that
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: adrenaline cooking and all that other stuff going on, you
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: don't know what it is. But there was that awful
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: feeling inside. And I'm thinking about, I've got a wife
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: and kids. Why am I running around out here in
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: the woods? I got in the car, and it kept
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: moving up. But I realized that it had stopped when
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: I had gone around the car. I don't know if
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: it could see me very well. It kept kind of bobbing.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: And the impression I got, whatever it was, was that
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: it was old. It was grayish looking and whitish looking.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: And it was old.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: And this is where the foolishness begins. Because I had
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: a gun in the car. I had a pistol. Which
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I always carry down there because we have coyote and everything.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: And normally I'd be walking around with this thing strapped
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: on if I'm in the woods. But I just had
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: it in the car. And I looked down and I
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: saw this pistol. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: The window's down on that side. I'm going to stick
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: this pistol out, and I'm going to fire a couple shots.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Not at it. I'm just going to fire a couple
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: shots and see what happens. Because if it's a guy,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: it's going to say, whoa, don't shoot me. And if
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: it's something else, I'm probably.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Just going to leave.
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: Really fast.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I reached over, and I reached it out the window.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: It's a small. 357 snub nose. And I popped two
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: shots off right at this dirt pile on the ground.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And it just stopped. It didn't say anything. It didn't
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: duck down or hide. It just stopped, dead still, right
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: where it was. And I said, okay, that's enough. And
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I brought the gun back in, and I can't remember
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: if I was actually in reverse or not. I know
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: I had to shift down to get it, because I'm
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: leaving at this point. And I start to shift, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I push the shift button. It's a Honda Element where
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: the shifter's up high. And I squeezed the shot off
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: inside the car.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: Oh, wow.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: And shot the console in the middle of the car.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: And it's deafening. So it's like, I'm in a big
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: metal box, and I just fired a.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: 357.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: So if it wasn't bad already, it was really.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: A lot worse.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: It was like, fuck! And I just floored it and
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: went down the road.
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: If that had happened in a movie, the car would
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: have exploded.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: It would have blown up. Lucky the gas tank's back there.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: And I got down the road and turned around in
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: this church lot, and I'm like, I just was utterly
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: freaked out by how I was behaving. You know? It's like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: I'm not normally like that. Drove back by, looked, nothing
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I could see. I could still smell. And I ended
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: up damaging the car. Long story after that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: But I ended up going back to the farmhouse and
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: trying to try to convey what had happened to my mom,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: who was like, I told you something was going to happen,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: and my wife, who thought I was crazy.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So much to say out of your saying there.
• 26:57
  Speaker 12: It sounds so right. I mean, it doesn't sound like it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Well, I didn't know about any of the infrasound stuff
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: or anything, or freezing up, or any of that weirdness
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: that occurs, until I talked to one guy who used
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: to run a pretty good blog called Blog Squatcher.
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: And he's the only guy I told. I took months
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: before I told anybody outside of family about that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think the only people
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you told outside of family was me and Bob. It
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: was a couple days after you came up to the
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: theater just to tell.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: It was interesting. It was an interesting day.
• 27:27
  Speaker 12: And you know, so many skeptics will say to someone
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: who claims to have seen.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: Bigfoot, why didn't you take a picture? You're right there.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: Why didn't you take a shot at it?
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: It doesn't enter your mind at all. And the guy
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: asked me, well, you had the game cam there. And
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, yeah, I'm holding a game cam. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: can get it to go off and shake it. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: then I would have a great blurry photo of Bigfoot
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: like everybody else.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: That's what he wants.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: If that's what it was.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: I think that's.
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: Why people that are so wanting to believe in Bigfoot,
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: they will try to find any kind of scientific explanation
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: for any consistent part of a Bigfoot story.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: And that whole.
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: Infrasound thing is them trying to make sense of this
• 28:07
  Speaker 12: very common report that you just seize up and you
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: can't move and.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I call it like hitting the wall of no evidence
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: there's no evidence so i've got a i gotta seize
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: on a crazy idea yeah and it goes on constantly
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: so that experience was kind of my ticket into the
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: world of bigfoot culture gave me some i guess legitimacy
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: in the eyes of some of these people but i
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: got so scared by the world of bigfoot culture i'm
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: out i'm observing i'm writing a book about aspects of
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: that but But as it turns out, I started doing
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: research after all that, and I was like, that area
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: has a long history. That specific area has a very
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: long history of strange things, sightings like 100 years worth
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: that continue to this day. And so that's why I say, yeah,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: there's something I think out there. It has very little
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: to do with the culture that surrounds it. And I
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: can't tell you exactly what it looked like. It had
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: a dark face and long arms. It looked airy. I
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: actually went to the Finding Bigfoot shooting when they did
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: the Kentucky episode, which is just a terrible episode.
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: For anyone who hasn't seen it, they actually went to
• 29:12
  Speaker 12: a log cabin where they were on the porch playing banjo.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, they had to have every cliche imaginable. And
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: they know about my story. The producer knows about my story.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: There was a guy there, an amazing sighting that I
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: found on the BFRO list, Very near where I was,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: in 1953, he and a friend were playing behind the
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: house and they heard these knocking sounds and they turned
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: around there's something behind the neighbor's house with a couple
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: pieces of wood and it's like digging into the ground
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: and turning over the ground trying to dig something out.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It looked exactly like what I saw. It's the same color.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Gray and white and all this black face. I mean,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: it's 1953. And I talked to this guy and he's like,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: There was no such thing as Bigfoot in 1953, but
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: my friend and I, it stood up and it kind
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: of grinned at them, like a fear grin kind of look,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: and they took off. And it went back off to
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Green River. All the areas nearby.
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: I don't know if it's chimpanzees or a gorilla, but
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: the facial expression that we would say looks like a
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: smile is actually a gorilla.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Is an aggressive or a fear girl.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I believe it's chimpanzees.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Okay. It didn't make a sound. It just made this
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: face at them and they were, they were gone.
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: You know, um, for those who don't know who wouldn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: be a Bigfoot Trekkie, you probably wouldn't know this, but
• 30:39
  Speaker 12: the term Bigfoot became big in 1958 after a, uh,
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: newspaper story in California got picked up by the Associated
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: Press and it went all over the, the, uh, country and,
• 30:52
  Speaker 12: Prior to that, people were seeing things, but there wasn't
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: this overriding term, so they would give it little colloquial names.
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: I almost find stories that take place before 1958 to
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: be so much more interesting because now you see something
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: hairy in the woods, you think it's Bigfoot. Prior to 1958,
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: you didn't know what it was, and yet So many
• 31:21
  Speaker 12: stories are so similar.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I look at the anecdotal stories and go, well,
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: there's something there I think that's interesting. You know, Kentucky,
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: they're really yahoos, and they have all kinds of names
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: for them.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: In Kentucky, Trimble County has its fair share of just
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: flat-out weird. I don't know if you've ever looked at
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: any stuff in there. There's a lot of stuff, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: they actually, in 1962, they referred to it as the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Trimble County Beast, or essentially it was describing these big creatures,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, I just went up there and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: started to end up I went up actually want to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: talk to people about the Milton lizard, which was also
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: called the Knip Creek monster. And that was basically this
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: reptilian lizard. I mean, they almost describe it kind of
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: similar to like a Komodo dragon, but I mean, it was,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: it would walk on its hind legs and yeah, it
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: was being cited all throughout that area in the seventies.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: It kind of, It was similar to the Loveland Frogman
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: in its description. And I even kind of wondered, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: was like, well, Loveland isn't that far separated by the
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: river from Milton. I always kind of wondered if those
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: two were linked. But in 1962, they had the Trimble
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: County Beast. In 1955, there was like an 80-pound barn
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: cat that somebody shot that was going around eating cattle.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: And then in 1994, they had a UFO flap up there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And then in 2000, they had cattle mutilations, all in
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: this one little county in this small town. in Kentucky,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: so it's just a very strange.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all very localized.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It's a very strange county.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Green River.
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: They'll probably start doing a festival now every year.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: It's like Mothman.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing, actually, like, the even weirder thing
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: is most of those other people, like, they try to
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: promote it, but when I went up there, like, everybody,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it's like they try to keep all that stuff buried.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Even though all these weird things came up.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: And up there, they keep trying to just cover them over.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Kentucky's a little different. They're very tight-lipped. I didn't try
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: to talk to people down around where I was.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Because I tried to track down this woman who'd seen
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: this thing on the road, and I knew she's in
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: the vet's office. And they're like, yeah, they just don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: want to talk. They know who she is, but they're
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: not going to go into it. But they're not like, well,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: we're not surprised about anything that might be living in
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: that area. The Green River Lake is an artificial lake.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: It was flooded to make a lake. It was done
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: in the late 60s. And a lot of the reports
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: started after that period. Like something got displaced or people
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: have been seeing things.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: You pissed something.
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: Off.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: But you go back and there are stories from the 50s.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: There are stories from the 70s. There was a lot
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: from the 70s. I looked in the local paper and
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: it's all right around that area where I was.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: You are the perfect person for me to ask this.
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: I think I know what the answer is. Are you
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: all familiar with the TV show Monster Quest? Oh yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: The whole bit was they would they would study or
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: look for a different monster every week. And of course,
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: Bigfoot was like the second episode. But then they were like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: oh crap, we're showing you the Bigfoot story, but we've
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: already done the Bigfoot one. They kept thinking up different
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: names for the same monster. Like they had one, Sasquatch.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: The Grassman.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: And then in Ohio, they had the Grassman. It was
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: a Bigfoot, but they called it the Grassman. I'd never
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: heard of that term.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: They had a Bumble Snowman, too.
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: And then they did a Kentucky one, and they called
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: it the Hillbilly Beast.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was great.
• 34:36
  Speaker 12: And all throughout this episode, every person that they were
• 34:39
  Speaker 12: talking to, they kept saying Bigfoot, Bigfoot. But the freaking
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: narrator kept saying the Hillbilly Beast, the Hillbilly Beast.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: It's like they were trying to.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Drive that people home.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: And I'm guessing in all your research, no one.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Ever called it the hillbilly beast.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: Never, never, never.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: It was in marketing. It's a Trimble County beast.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: It was printed as the beast in the paper.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: It has to be hillbilly beast. And then they had
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: to do, this is another connection with us, they had
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: to do the Fairdale Bigfoot. Because right around the time
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: I had my experience.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I got a call from my wife in the morning.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Did you hear about the Yeti in Fairdale?
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: Did I ever.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: What?
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: She's like, there's like a Bigfoot in Fairdale. There's a
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: picture and everything. It's all over the Internet. And it
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: was all over the Internet.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: It was.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: And I brought it up. And I was like, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: it's over near the Jefferson Forest, which has had a
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: couple of interesting reports. And I'm looking at this thing.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I forgot all about that. That looks weird.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I honestly thought it was garbage cans.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: It looked too shiny.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: Or a garbage bag.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And at first I was like, are they trying
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: to say that this is its back and it's sitting
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: in a garden? Or are they trying to say that
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: this is its front and it's got these crazy long
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: strands of hair?
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: Have you guys seen this?
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: The ones who aren't Bigfoot freaks?
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Just type in backyard.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: The other half of the table is just looking at
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: us in terror.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: These people are nuts.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Like, what the hell is wrong with you? What it
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: basically looks like is sort of like.
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: From the waist up.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: You can't tell a damn thing in the photo.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: And the guy who, you know, his game cam shot
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: it and he said he'd been, something had been eating
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: the beans in his garden and he wanted to capture
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: that on film. Um, got it out there right away.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: But within an hour, I was looking at it, and
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: a friend of mine was looking at it, and we're like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: you know, that looks like a crow. It looks like
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: a bird snapped in mid-flight. It's descending. And we quickly
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: found photos that looked just like it, and we started
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: posting up on the Internet saying, I don't think the
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: guy's trying to mislead anybody. It's just like, I think
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: it's a crow. You never heard such violent reactions from
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: bigfoot believers. They wanted to kill us, to hunt us
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: down and kill us. And we're like, no, I really
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: think it's a crow. It's so bad. But that happened
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: to be on the Kentucky episode. Because I remember I
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: turned it on and I said, oh no, they're going
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: to talk about the crowfoot. But they did debunk it
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: on the show. So props to MonsterQuest. It was a
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: hell of a lot better show than Finding Bigfoot.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Of course, you mentioned people having to believe, and I
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: guess this will try to loop folks back in with
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the movie. I love Herzog's incident at Loch Ness. Because
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: it starts off with this whole premise that he is
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: going to do a documentary on why it is that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: things like Loch Ness and Bigfoot and all these other
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: cryptids exist. It's like, why is it that we, as
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: human beings, feel the need to believe in something like that?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And almost just, I'm like, that is actually a good question.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I would like to see him do the legitimate documentary
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: of that, even though the whole thing turns into like
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a mockumentary slash Blair Witch thing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: It's a very funny movie. Very funny. But, yeah, it's
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: the thing. I mean, you know, I've had some odd experiences,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: and I'm very interested in the subject. Yet, when I
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: got into the culture, I was horrified. I was horrified
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: by the crazy people. I absolutely agree.
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: In theory, I should love the Grateful Dead, but the
• 37:55
  Speaker 12: culture turns me off.
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: It's one of those.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: It's the same thing. It's very much like a religious movement,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: and it's like you have to believe all or nothing
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: as far as they're concerned. And they have certain articles
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: of faith, and one of the big articles of faith
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: is the Patterson footage. And I don't believe in the
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Patterson footage.
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: Oh, you don't?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Patterson footage is like the book of Genesis or something.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: I think it's fascinating, but Roger Patterson was making a documentary.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: It's openly stated. I have his book, which predates his footage.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: And he was openly making a Bigfoot documentary.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Working with John Chambers, wasn't he?
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: No, that's one of the big myths. They said, no,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: John wasn't involved. John was involved in another Bigfoot movie.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: Minnesota Iceman.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, John, that's what I'm thinking.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: John didn't even do the Minnesota Iceman. It turns out
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: it was another guy. But they've been throwing that up
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: for years, and that's a myth that perpetuates too. Bob Burns,
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Brick Baker, they all say John Chambers made that Bigfoot suit.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Roger Patterson made the Bigfoot suit. He was a very
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: talented guy. He was an artist. He was a saddle maker,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: a carpenter. And he was going to make, he was
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: a believer, but he was going to make a Bigfoot documentary.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: And what I always ask true believers is like, okay,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: you admit he was going to make a Bigfoot documentary,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: and he had his buddies dressed up as Indians, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: there were going to be flashbacks to the 1800s where
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: they were telling their Bigfoot stories. And I was like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: how many Bigfoot documentaries have you ever seen where they
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: don't show Bigfoot? They always show Bigfoot. They always get
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: a guy in a suit. All these other people will
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: keep saying, well.
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: No, no, no.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: See, he set out to do one thing, and he
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: ended up accidentally capturing this foot.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: He realized, you know, I don't have to finish the
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: documentary if I just claim to have shot this creature
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: walking across my path with my friend. And that's what
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: they did. And I believe that the guy, Bob Hieronymus,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: his buddy, is in the suit. And I believe it's
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: a decent suit that's filmed from far enough away in
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: shaky 16mm.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with an old film stock.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: Publicly, I have to agree with you. Privately, I'm still.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it's fine.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: And I'm fascinated with the Patterson footage, and I love
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Roger Patterson. I love him as a hoaxer or whatever.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: I think he's a cool guy. He's an interesting man.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: But no, I don't believe that footage. And that's the
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: best people can come up with when it comes to
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: the footage, is that 1967... piece of footage. And that's
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: an article of faith in Bigfoot. If you start knocking that,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: they don't like you much. And I met some of
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: the most rational people out there who still want to
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: go for that footage. And I said, you know, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: used to believe when I was a kid, but then
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: I read about Patterson, and I read about how hard
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: life was for him, and he was always looking for
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: an angle. And he finally came up with a good one.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: And made some money. And, you know, it became a
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: big deal.
• 40:39
  Speaker 12: I think with me, I'm so mad at this Scarty
• 40:43
  Speaker 12: that Just to spite him, I'm going to say Patterson
• 40:46
  Speaker 12: film is real.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: I'm so mad at Viscardi.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Viscardi is like the lowest of the low, but, man,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: there are so many other bottom feeders.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: He's coming out with the DVD.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: About his version of what happened.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: No, no, which is proving Patterson is a fake. Oh, okay.
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: So just because he's doing that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: It's funny. He works the game from all angles. The
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: guy who actually did the Bigfoot suit hoaxing, Rick Dyer,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: the guy from Georgia who I think was the cop.
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: No, no, actually.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: It was a mad guy. Rick Dyer's out there basically
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: being a professional asshole in the Bigfoot world. He's always
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: out there starting fights, and he's got his own website.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: I love his grainy YouTube videos.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just amazing stuff.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: When it comes to Bigfoot and just what I believe,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I've always liked what John Keel sort of theorizes in
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the beginning of Mothman Prophecies when he's talking about tulpas.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It's like these projections of the mind, and basically once
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: they're seen by somebody else, They're then reinforced subconsciously by
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the mind. He would talk about how Native Americans, when
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: they'd be sitting around the campfire and that, when they
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: would see these spiritual visions, it was actually something that
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: they were doing that maybe you didn't understand how your
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: brain was functional in operation. I said, really, if you
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: accept the ability or if you accept the knowledge or
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the idea that that ability could exist, I mean, it
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: pretty much loops in ghosts, UFOs, anything.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Virtually anything, yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Virtually anything that can't be explained and there's not really
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: that much evidence for is just this projection that's been
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: reinforced by those who see it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Then Kiel takes it further to basically say those things
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: take on a life of their own. Yeah. Yeah. He
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: calls them the ultra-terrestrials. If you saw Mothman Prophecies, which
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: I thought was a really good movie, you'll see some
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: of that going on.
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: But then there's the whole Lauren Coleman take on it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 12: Why do you explain something unexplicable with something just as unexplicable?
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: He really wants it to be just a flesh and blood.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Just an ink. He's a pretty practical guy, but it's
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: all flesh and blood. Let me ask the.
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: Three guys who aren't talking much.
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: You just heard, which I think is a really great
• 42:52
  Speaker 12: story from here.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: What do you guys think about, could it exist? Is
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: it all? What do you guys think?
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: I think for us to say that we know everything
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: is crazy.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: Every time, just when you look in the world of.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Science, every time they have something closed off and explained
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: or they get to the limit of what we believe.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Is, this is the.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Smallest particle or this is the furthest we've seen in
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: space or whatever, there's always that next step that, A
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: lot of times people, you know, in the past, well,
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: we'll explain that off by God or we'll explain that
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: off by that doesn't.
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: Exist or whatever.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: And, you know, I've been out in the woods enough,
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of backpacking, a lot of, you know, five
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: days in.
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: You had peed off of mountains.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: Where you're truly in wilderness situations where you're not going
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: to get out for days.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Maybe witnessed and maybe heard things that, who knows? In
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: South America, in Alaska, in the Southwest, all especially, you think, well, did.
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: I witness something? Did I not? And you just tell yourself,
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: that was me.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Just like you're walking up the stairs from your basement
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: and you think, gosh, there could be a ghost down here.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: And then that's at the bottom of the step. And
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: by the time you get to the top of the step.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: You've creeped yourself out.
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: It's behind you and about to pull you down the stairs.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're moving a lot faster by the time you
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: get to the top.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: You've created that whole image in your brain. You were
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: rational at the bottom. You were completely irrational as you're
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: coming up the landing.
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: Which is kind of like what you were saying. The
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: John Keely, you picture it, suddenly it's real.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: But at the same time.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: If you have a rational, credible person telling you a
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: truly personal story, you've got to give them a lot
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: of credit until you can just throw it out the door.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: There's no reason not to believe him sitting across the
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: table from me right now. Yes, it could be somebody
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: in a suit. Yes, it could be it was foggy
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: and who knows. But there's still a good chance that
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: You have enough stories, corroborating stories, that you.
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: Find out after the fact that why not?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: There's other crazier things around.
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: You say corroborating stories, and that's why I like stories
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: that happened before 58. Because past 58... everybody kind of
• 45:42
  Speaker 12: has an idea of what a Bigfoot is supposed to
• 45:45
  Speaker 12: look like.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like after Roswell, all the aliens are described
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: about the same.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Everybody always points to the Patterson footage and says, that's
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: what I saw. And I'm like, I don't believe the
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Patterson footage.
• 45:53
  Speaker 12: So if you have a bunch of reports that all
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: sound pretty much the same and they happened before the 50s,
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: that is something.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: If you're familiar with the Chapman story, the family... The what?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: The Chapmans. It happened in the late 40s. I think
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: they were out in California.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: But they were an.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: American Indian family living in a modern town. And for me,
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: it's the most compelling story. And it's... A woman's at home,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: or her husband worked for the railroad there.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: Oh, is this the.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Stole the fish out of the... Yeah.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, the son comes in. He's like,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: there's like this big cow or something coming down the
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: hill through the field. And she goes and looks, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: it's not a big cow. It's this big brown man-like thing.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: And it's coming... through the field towards the house and
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: she starts to freak because she's an american indian she's
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: heard these stories all of her life about these things
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: and she gets the kids rounded up and she literally
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: kind of threw a sheet around them to get them
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: so they wouldn't see it and it wouldn't see them
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: and they hustle out of the house towards the river
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: and just go up the river because this thing was
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: headed for the house well it went into the house
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: apparently i mean they took the door down and left
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: hair on the windowsill and all this stuff and apparently
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: threw some things around, got out into the shed and
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: there was a barrel of like salted fish out there
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: and was able to tear the lid off this and
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: eat some fish and throw it around and went off
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: on its own. And then her husband came home from
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: work later and saw like the house is a mess.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: There's a barrel of fish busted open in the yard
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: and there's footprints everywhere. Where's my family? And he found
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: them in town. And, um, supposedly over the next two
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: or three nights whatever it was was coming around and
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: they heard it a lot but they didn't see it
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: again and um it's just an interesting story nobody had
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: anything to gain by telling this story um they had
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: a lot to lose and as a matter of fact
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: they did lose they had they had a real weird
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: tragic life to where those three kids all drowned in
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: a canoe accident and like the best Bigfoot book ever written,
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, is Ivan Sanderson's Abominable Snowman, Legend Come
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: to Life. And it's sort of a global examination. But
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: you're talking about something that was written in, like, 1961.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: And he actually managed to track them down and find
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: them and interview them up in British Columbia. I think
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: that's actually where they were. And was utterly convinced by
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: it because she was talking about the color and talking
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: about the sound that it made that was very odd,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: which he'd heard some other people talk about.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: And.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: that's a really compelling story there's lots of anecdotal stories
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: like that that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: Are compelling i love native american stories because they they
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: honestly tend to be very tight-lipped about.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: It yeah they don't talk about it and it always
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: usually involves too they've heard these stories before it's like
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: the forewarnings exist.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: And there's a difference between the the standard boogeyman tales
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: like don't wander off from home, or it'll get you,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: and people actually seeing things.
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: Well, you know, it's like in the Pacific Northwest, they
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: got totem poles, and all of their totem poles are
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: made with known.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: Animals plus a Sasquatch.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:01
  Speaker 12: To them, it was a known animal. To them, it's like, well, sure,
• 49:05
  Speaker 12: it exists. You know, why wouldn't it? Should we keep going?
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: What do you think?
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: Oh, do I believe that Sasquatch is real?
• 49:14
  Speaker 16: Sure.
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: No, but I have a highly overactive imagination.
• 49:19
  Speaker 17: And just hearing these stories, it just makes me realize,
• 49:23
  Speaker 17: because I haven't genuinely, I'll be honest, I know this
• 49:26
  Speaker 17: is ridiculous, but I'll go ahead and say it. When
• 49:28
  Speaker 17: he was getting into that story earlier about the sighting
• 49:31
  Speaker 17: and the.
• 49:31
  Speaker 10: Fog, I heard the sound in the kitchen. I was like,
• 49:34
  Speaker 10: did they set up something? And a big foot.
• 49:37
  Speaker 17: So I was like, that would be crazy. I was
• 49:41
  Speaker 17: prepping for something to happen there for a couple of minutes.
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: That's where Fred is. That incident is so odd.
• 49:48
  Speaker 17: And like, I've had someone and it's just like, you
• 49:50
  Speaker 17: don't know in the moment and it brings back that
• 49:52
  Speaker 17: mystery and it makes you want to search. So, I
• 49:54
  Speaker 17: mean like the rational, you know, side of you is like, no,
• 49:57
  Speaker 17: of course not. But like, you know, I've had instances
• 50:00
  Speaker 17: like that. Like I'm, I remember one time at a,
• 50:02
  Speaker 17: boy scout camp we had to uh i think it
• 50:05
  Speaker 17: was wilderness survival i had to go out and make
• 50:07
  Speaker 17: a shelter in the woods and you know out of
• 50:09
  Speaker 17: stuff i've literally stuff i found on the ground and
• 50:11
  Speaker 17: sleep overnight by myself in the woods well not by
• 50:14
  Speaker 17: myself i had my friend when it was just us
• 50:16
  Speaker 17: two and uh and like the troop that was like
• 50:19
  Speaker 17: next to us and we had to help them too
• 50:20
  Speaker 17: but uh I found like a piece of sheet metal
• 50:23
  Speaker 17: for a roof and propped up against a tree.
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: And that was my, that was my tent, quote unquote.
• 50:27
  Speaker 17: And, uh, yeah, I was just woken up in the
• 50:29
  Speaker 17: middle of the night by this awful, like just angry, like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 17: like these, some, some kind of something like struggling with,
• 50:35
  Speaker 17: like something was killing something.
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: And it was very loud. It was very close. Um,
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: I didn't know what it was.
• 50:40
  Speaker 17: And all of a sudden, like in for a good hour,
• 50:44
  Speaker 17: like my mom was just thinking of all these possibilities.
• 50:46
  Speaker 17: Like there's some monster in the, I was, I was
• 50:48
  Speaker 17: like 13 years old. I was old enough to realize that,
• 50:51
  Speaker 17: you know, there's no such thing, all that. But in
• 50:54
  Speaker 17: that hour, because like I was the only person awake
• 50:56
  Speaker 17: and hearing this, it was surreal. It was like an
• 50:58
  Speaker 17: out of body, like something is killing something. And I
• 51:01
  Speaker 17: just didn't know what to, I know this is stupid,
• 51:04
  Speaker 17: but it was just crazy. And then I woke up
• 51:06
  Speaker 17: the next morning to find out that it was two
• 51:08
  Speaker 17: coyotes fighting each other.
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: In the woods.
• 51:10
  Speaker 17: That's what the scoutmaster said. He had heard it too.
• 51:12
  Speaker 17: I was like, oh, I'd never heard that noise before.
• 51:15
  Speaker 17: I'd never heard what a coyote sounds like. But it
• 51:17
  Speaker 17: was terrifying. It was like something out to kill me.
• 51:21
  Speaker 17: And just moments like those, they get rarer and rarer.
• 51:25
  Speaker 17: But it came out like when you're retelling your incident.
• 51:29
  Speaker 17: And yeah, they get you.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: I applaud that kind of attitude towards me telling it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Because if I tell that in a venue of true believers,
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: it's very different. It becomes much more important.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Than it should.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: You should be rational about it.
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: Always.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: In all honesty, after you came up and told me
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: and Bob that, and then you left, we sat there
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: for probably about an hour just debating as to exactly...
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, why would he... We almost wondered if you
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: were up to something.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Because we've known you for so long, and it's like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you were very rational by nature. And we're also like,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: he fell into all the textbook cliches of it's like
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: he had the camera, he had all this stuff, and
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it's like he comes away with no evidence. Nothing at all.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And we were just sitting around like... That was basically
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: the topic of the debate. It's like, do we believe Dave?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: A friend in Nashville, John Davis, thought I was crazy.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: He thought I was losing it. John has had even
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: weirder experiences.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Because the only thing we could think of is like, well,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: if he's making it up, then maybe... he just fucked up,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: dropped the gun, and blew the car radio out, but
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: didn't want Janet to fuck him, so he made up
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: a very elaborate story to pass it off. It was
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: a few days later when I saw Janet. It was
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: at Carl's funeral, because that happened right around that time.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Just a couple weeks before that.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: And I saw her, and I said, so y'all just
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: got back the car? She's like, yep. So I heard
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the story about what happened to the radio, and she's like,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: My wife walked away that morning.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: She couldn't deal with it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: That's how she deals with stress. She has a very
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: stressful job.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: You're more stressful.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: You could ask my mom about what I looked like
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: and how I was acting. It's like I was in shock.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: That's what I think Janet said.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: She just came in and started throwing up in the bathroom.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: I got sick far before that. I was sick. I
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: was physically ill. Then I started looking up later in
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: the day symptoms of shock. I was in shock. because
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: I had to ride back with my car with a
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: car hauler I had to get it up to Lovett
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: stop running I got it to the farm turned it
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: off and then it would start because I had shot
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: through the wiring harnesses and I had to call a
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: car hauler and tell this hilarious lie to my insurance.
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: Company there's not a there's not a box for them
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: to check it was an accidental discharge in the car
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: which it was an accidental discharge there.
• 54:01
  Speaker 12: Was this you know air supply song on the radio
• 54:04
  Speaker 12: and I hate air supply oh not.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Again uh.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: And I had to sit there and just kind of
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: deal with all that stuff as an aftermath, which was scarier, actually.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: And there have been a lot of odd things since.
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: If it was Bigfoot, you made the right move, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: I think that last shot would have worn off anybody.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, even if it's Bigfoot, he's like, that guy
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: is crazy. He just shot his own damn shot.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: I'm like, no, he should at least drop or scream
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: or don't shoot, and nothing happened.
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: I was going to steal that car.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I don't want it. This last movie with my friend Jim, um,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: cause he's essentially in a big fursuit and all this stuff.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: And that was like my, and it was really, it
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: freaked me out because he came to me the day
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: we were getting ready to shoot him in that costume
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: out in the woods. I mean, we were going down
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: into Hodgenville, Kentucky on this farm property. And, um, as
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: we were driving down there, you know, I did, we've
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: got the costume, everything ready. He's like, Hey, I meant
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: to tell you earlier, I had a really weird dream
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: last night. I was like, really, what about it? He's like,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: about his filming tonight. I dreamed that I died. I
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: was like, don't say that. He's like, no, I had two.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Because I had one dream to where I was just
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: in a costume. And I started overheating. And I started suffocating.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: And you were freaking out and trying to take all
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the makeup off. And you couldn't get it off in time.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: And then I died.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And I had another one to where some farmer shot me.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, stop talking.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Stop saying this. Stop saying this.
• 55:34
  Speaker 12: And then in the dream, you know, I was like
• 55:36
  Speaker 12: in the woods and I went to this clearing and
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: then there was Dave.
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: On the other side.
• 55:40
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, is that Dave?
• 55:41
  Speaker 12: And I'm sort of going back and forth and Dave
• 55:43
  Speaker 12: starts shooting at me and it freaked me out.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: There's like some weird time warp going on there. It's
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: like an episode of The Twilight Zone.
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: That is the most credible and scary part of that
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: story is.
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: If it was a person, it's going to do something.
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: If it was Mattitude, it could start running.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: But that it stands there.
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: Well, it literally kind of just froze in place.
• 56:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's part of the reason that people say you
• 56:13
  Speaker 12: don't see them is because they are the masters of camouflage.
• 56:17
  Speaker 12: And part of being a master of camouflage is the
• 56:19
  Speaker 12: ability to be stone.
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: Still, you know, to not move.
• 56:23
  Speaker 12: And, you know, if you just get some guy who's wearing, like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 12: camouflage pants from, Bass Pro Shop. If you have him
• 56:32
  Speaker 12: in the woods and you get back like 20 feet,
• 56:34
  Speaker 12: it's kind of hard.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: To see him.
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: If it exists, it's like the woods.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: There's a t-shirt that says Bigfoot is world champion hide
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: and seek player. It can be right there and you
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: don't see it. That could also be evidence of it
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: not being there at all. People are inventing that. But
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: I tend to think if it's what they say it is,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: if it's a co-evolved species, a hominid of some sort,
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: we're its natural enemy. And it knows what a gun is.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: And it's just not going to move.
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: That's another theory why they say you can't get a
• 57:10
  Speaker 12: picture is because it sees you holding something metal or
• 57:15
  Speaker 12: in your hand, and it's going to think, oh, that's
• 57:17
  Speaker 12: just like those pioneers from 200 years ago who took
• 57:20
  Speaker 12: a shot at me.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Screw this.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: I'm leaving.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I love the Hammer film, Evolved Snowman,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: because the.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: Whole theory behind that is basically there.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Are these– creatures where they're more intelligent than us and
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: they're just basically waiting until we kill ourselves. It's a
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: brilliant movie.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: Abominable Snowman in the Himalayas.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Peter Cushing and Forrest Tucker.
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: That is the movie that Loren Coleman cites as his
• 57:45
  Speaker 12: Boggy Creek, so to speak.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: It's Nigel Neal who did all the Quaker Mass movies.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: It's black and white. It's a smart, slick movie.
• 57:54
  Speaker 12: Maybe if you watch the Patterson film in black and white,
• 57:57
  Speaker 12: you might.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: Hey, Brian, you haven't weighed in. What do you think?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I think the.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I think I opened up a kettle of fish at
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: this end.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Nah, I'm fine with this. I like the story, and
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: that's the thing.
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: I think listening to that, it has that same element
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: that when you hear any stories about the paranormal, because
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: I'm listening to that, and there's that moment that you
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: also have when somebody's telling a ghost story, or somebody's
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: telling some crazy alien abduction story. It's that moment of,
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: things aren't responding the way they should. Like, if there
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: were a ghost off in the distance, it would just
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: stop and stand there. And, you know, it would also
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: not make any sense for... If it was a person,
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: they would run or they would do something. But, like,
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: whatever the paranormal is that comes into play, you're always like,
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: something's not right.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: And things aren't going the way that they should be now.
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: And I think that is kind of what is interesting
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: about all of these things.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: And I won't... I don't know that I 100% believe specifics.
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: On any of the paranormal stuff, but at the same time,
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: much like Greg said, I think we don't know so much.
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: We think we do.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: We think we've got a handle on everything.
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: But i think there's so many little loopholes out there
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: in the in in genetics and uh in life and
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: death and uh the outer space and wherever else you
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: want to work into this that we just don't understand
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: and maybe we'll never understand so i think there's always
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: that doubt and i will always have that doubt that
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: maybe there is something out there that we haven't seen.
• 59:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's been plenty of cases before where we've
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: come across things that, you know, we had never seen before,
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: even evolutionary, you know, we'll say species are dead and, oh, look,
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: this one turns up off, you know, this Island somewhere.
• 59:44
  Speaker 12: So granted it was like 150 years ago, but they
• 59:48
  Speaker 12: used to in Africa, there were, there were stories of this,
• 59:52
  Speaker 12: of these ape, of these monster man creatures and, Nobody
• 59:57
  Speaker 12: believed him until someone shot it, and they call it gorilla.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: But that was a legendary beast.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very much treated that way. And there
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: may be other species of great apes in Africa still
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: that we don't know about.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 12: And, you know, what you were just saying, Brian, about how,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 12: you know, you're sitting here and you're listening to this story,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 12: and it's kind of, I think it, you know, Dave's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 12: story kind of grabbed us all in like a very,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 12: I should.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: Point out, we're sitting in a restaurant.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 12: The lights are all on very, very brightly. We're next
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 12: to a very busy road. A car is going by
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 12: every few seconds. Right across from us is this hipster
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 12: restaurant full of people. And we were still all kind of.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 9: Spooked by Dave's... So imagine if we were around a campfire.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't go to sleep. It still works. It's a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: good story.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 9: And the fact that I know you, like you were saying,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 9: I know how normal.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: In quotes.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah. But, you know, compared to most people and how
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: level-headed you definitely are, I've known you a long time, too.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 9: And it's like, you're not one to make up stuff
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: like that. You're also not one to behave like that
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: under any circumstance.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: No, and that was the part that upset me the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: most was my behavior.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: It was not my rational behavior. It was not the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: behavior of me. It was the behavior of something that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: was like a rabbit.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Which made it.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: it sort of, you know, it sort of got exponential
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: after a while, so I got so panicky.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: It made it credible for me, because just that irrational fear,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, the one time, you know, and that would
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: be a whole different episode, so I won't go into it,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: but the one time where I was like, there's a
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: lot of odd ghost stories surrounding the theater, and I've
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: been kind of skeptical about that, but there was one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: story to where, I mean, it was involving me just
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: sleeping there for the night, and Basically, I had, and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I took me, I think you were the first person
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I told, and I'd kept it to myself for years.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: But it's something where basically it involved me having that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: same irrational fear, and I could totally understand because it
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: was the same thing. It's like, you know, there's no way,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: unless you've experienced it, there's no way to describe it,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: but it's just like, You become very primal and animalistic.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: It's that true fight-or-flight sort of thing. It's just the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: sheer territory where any logic or rational thought just goes
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: out the window, and you're just.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: Something I bring up, and it's like I always look
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: for it, because I've always been interested in this stuff,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: which a lot of people will look at that and say, well,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: that means you wanted this to happen, and no, I didn't.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: There is a sense you will get that you don't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: get under any other circumstances. And that's a sense of otherness.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: That's how I describe it. It's like, that's not anything
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: like me.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: And that almost applies in any of those scenarios. It's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: just weird.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: And I've had that at one or two other events.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: It's like, that's not anything like me or anything related
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: to me. And there's no other way to describe it.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: And it's like the hairs up on your neck. It's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: that primal.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's in our DNA to not.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: be well.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: With things that aren't like us.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: That's not me.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 12: Here's something for everybody I'd like to ask. Would you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 12: guys want this to be found? Would that, I don't know,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 12: ruin it in some way?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: I think that whatever it is, it's beyond the bullshit
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: excuses of it being elusive. I think the populations are
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: far smaller and far more spread out than people think
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: or want to believe. we haven't found it so far.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: And even if they get some kind of weird hit
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: on DNA, well, they still haven't found it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: For me, I would actually be kind of saddened because
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: then I feel like it would be exploited once it
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: were actually like.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: And it may not be... We may not be able
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: to find it. And there may be some reason why
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: we can't.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I think it just changes it.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: In a way, it makes it sad only because it
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: takes that mystery out of it. That same thing that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: we were talking about earlier, that we're still kind of
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: We need that almost as people. We need that element
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  Speaker 9: of something still out there for us to find. And
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  Speaker 9: every time we take one of these little things away
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  Speaker 9: and we pinpoint it and we go, here's the DNA
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  Speaker 9: and here's what it really is, it might be real
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  Speaker 9: and it might then have a scientific excuse, but a
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  Speaker 9: little piece of that myth dies and then, I don't know,
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  Speaker 9: I think we kind of still need.
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  Speaker 2: That out there.
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  Speaker 7: You know what it might be like? It might be
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  Speaker 7: like the difference between... seeing star wars before there were
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  Speaker 7: there there were.
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  Speaker 12: Videotapes and then star wars after videotapes you know it's
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  Speaker 12: like i saw this great thing and i got this
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  Speaker 12: fuzzy photo when i swear it was awesome i'm trying
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  Speaker 12: to remember what it was like a nice callback i'm gonna.
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  Speaker 9: Recreate the scene with my figures hold on here's my
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  Speaker 9: chewy figure looks just like bigfoot hold on here's.
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  Speaker 6: Bobo calrissian reenact what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Han Solo shot a photo first.
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  Speaker 5: This doesn't have anything to do with Bigfoot movies.
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  Speaker 1: Well, assuming it was Bigfoot... That's right, we were going
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  Speaker 1: to talk.
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  Speaker 10: About a movie.
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  Speaker 5: I forgot about that. He didn't look anything like the
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  Speaker 5: one in the movie.
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  Speaker 2: Poor Greg sat through that horrible, horrible movie and he's like, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you should take that last hour and make it a.
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  Speaker 1: Whole separate podcast. This is his own episode.
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  Speaker 8: Why do you assume that I think that was a
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  Speaker 8: horrible movie?
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  Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to that. But if you saw Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 10: Well, like Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: I have no evidence to prove that you thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a good movie, and I would be very skeptical
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  Speaker 2: if you did.
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  Speaker 1: So this has been a special edition of Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 9: The Bigfoot myths and legends.
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  Speaker 2: I say we just leave it at this.
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  Speaker 5: What did you say about that Bigfoot movie? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it was awful.
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  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that thing, Alice Cooper? It was terrible.
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  Speaker 7: I think you should make that a separate show, man.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 1: With that, we will return next week. Same geek time,
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  Speaker 1: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 16: Tell me who's to say you think that we'd have
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  Speaker 16: come this far looking back on yesterday because you hadn't
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  Speaker 16: seen sun you tend to disbelieve though you've never known
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  Speaker 16: death When someone dies you grieve Though you've.
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  Speaker 18: Never seen the good Lord There's ones that worship Him
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  Speaker 18: each day You'll.
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  Speaker 7: Find them in the chapels.
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  Speaker 11: And all they.
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  Speaker 18: Need is to pray What's.
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  Speaker 1: It take to be a believer? Tell me who's to say.
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  Speaker 7: You'd think that we'd have come this far Looking back.
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  Speaker 4: On yesterday guitar solo.
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  Speaker 16: If someone long ago hadn't thought we could fly We'd
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  Speaker 16: have never gone above the trees We'd have never reached
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  Speaker 16: the skies Are there no new surprises?
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  Speaker 18: Have we finally learned it all? Could something really be
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  Speaker 18: here that we've never found before?
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  Speaker 7: What's it take to be a believer?
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  Speaker 8: Tell me who's to say.
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  Speaker 2: You'd think that we'd have.
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  Speaker 18: Come this far looking back on yesterday.
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  Speaker 16: What's it take to be a believer?
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  Speaker 18: Tell me who's the same You'd think that we'd have
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  Speaker 18: come this far Looking back on yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: So much of that stuff that they're passing off as
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  Speaker 5: Bigfoot noise on the internet is just a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: city boys out in the woods. They don't know what
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  Speaker 5: they're hearing.
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  Speaker 8: What's the video of?
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  Speaker 17: That footage I was talking about.
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  Speaker 5: It's just this weird noise in the distance.
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  Speaker 2: Scroll up.
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  Speaker 5: Noises.
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  Speaker 2: Noises in the woods.
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  Speaker 7: I don't turn.
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  Speaker 4: It all the way up because it's in the background. Growl.
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  Speaker 14: Sasquatch!
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  Speaker 7: Wrong direction.
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  Speaker 5: What the hell is that? The real Sasquatch.
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 11: Talk hard!