Latest / the arc.fm / Hymns To The Obvious - A Play Written by Robert Weinstein
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- 0:03I write characters
- 0:04the way that I wish they existed in the world, It's so realistic.
- 0:09But it's not reality.
- 0:10I think there's a truth in it.
- 0:34If you want to read Robby's play, before you listen to the rest of this,
- 0:37There will be a link to it in the description,
- 0:41and if you have ten minutes, you will get to experience
- 0:43the full array of human emotions.
- 2:04I know you, she said.
- 2:05That shouldn't just be between us.
- 2:07You need to say that out loud, too. Yeah.
- 2:10I hate plot so much, but I love stories.
- 2:14That's awesome.
- 2:14And it's so true.
- 2:17Yeah.
- 2:19the fact you just have instantly handed me
- 2:20something that has kind of no plot,
- 2:23but lots of story is tickling me to no end.
- 2:27I love this play so much.
- 2:30what's the story to both of you two?
- 2:33since there isn't, like jumping off buildings.
- 2:34Plot, plot plot.
- 8:09You have the phrase singing hymns
- 8:13in the church of the obvious.
- 8:16It's such a mythical, apocryphal sounding phrase.
- 8:21I want to hear how you got to that, because it is magical.
- 12:06When and how do you know
- 12:07when something is finished?
- 12:48What was that moment for this?
- 12:50For him.
- 12:51So the obvious.
- 14:20I know when I'm willing.
- 14:23once I take the first step to make it a reality.
- 14:31That's very funny, because I was walking through a gigantic,
- 14:35cathedral to capitalism today called Hudson Yards.
- 14:39Surrounded by
- 14:40people who are very good at business and very good at corporate things.
- 14:44And I just kept mumbling, wow, I am not good at business.
- 14:48So it's very funny to hear you say, oh, coal is good at business.
- 15:06but, like,
- 15:25It also.
- 15:30just because of like
- 15:44I forgotten what I was going to ask you.
- 15:48Everybody, Oh, the voices in your head.
- 15:51I'm wondering how you, Affect.
- 15:55How the dialog ends up sounding to other people
- 15:58in the real world.
- 16:02Yeah.
- 16:02Let me ask that again.
- 16:04It's, you know exactly how you want dialog to sound in your head.
- 16:09You can hear it in your head in a certain rhythm, in a certain cadence,
- 16:12or in an exact rhythm and an exact cadence.
- 16:16But once you've written something and once you're interacting with it,
- 16:21and once actors are speaking it,
- 16:24it may not sound the same.
- 16:28How do you either deal with that tension or how do you affect.
- 16:33The final outcome of how it sounds with how you wrote it in the first place?
- 20:38but. my friend.
- 20:40You have done a bookend and repetition.
- 20:43How dare you! Oh. Yeah.
- 20:45And then,
- 21:35this bit of repetition and the idiosyncratic nature of it
- 21:39is the number one thing about the play that makes it such
- 21:43a perfect representation of the format of a play itself.
- 21:46Like in their, I wish I knew this for real, but like this
- 21:50the Greek sense of there is something innate in a form,
- 21:55and there's the perfect idea of this form, this recurring bit
- 21:58that you do is very close to, like the perfect form
- 22:02of a play.
- 22:10loved it.
- 22:11Because it's not realistic in many ways.
- 22:14Like if you walked into a town and people actually did this, you're like,
- 22:17what's. Why?
- 22:23Oh, really?
- 22:24I grew up in freaking
- 24:43In a more complimentary
- 24:45way, I should say that my notes about this was.
- 24:49It's so realistic.
- 24:51But it's not reality.
- 27:50Let me ask
- 27:51Robbie's question in a different way as well.
- 27:56How would you go about writing a wizard?
- 27:58And what would the wizard sound like in your head?
- 29:11Yeah.
- 29:11What's your favorite line from your play, Robbie? Wow.
- 29:39I have never met someone who hates ducks.
- 29:42I've been attacked by geese multiple times, and yet I don't.
- 29:45I know, duh,
- 30:08It's in.
- 30:09Character.
- 30:11It's a perfect natural title.
- 30:14now my favorite line is going to sound pithy, but, Janice
- 30:17the grandmother has just called somebody a moron.
- 30:22Very bluntly, and it's been noticed.
- 30:25And Janice clarifies with
- 30:28she knows where I stand.
- 30:31those blonds, as I've heard a character be.
- 30:34But keep it realistic within the world.
- 30:37And I always want my characters to be blunter and blunter.
- 30:40But they teeter off the deep end of believability.
- 30:44When I get to that. Something like that. So I loved it.
- 30:48Is recording is through an iPad
- 30:51and sending a message from a nursing home back to somebody a normal thing?
- 30:55Or is that, like, a huge story decision to say these people are so just.
- 30:59She's so disconnected from her granddaughter
- 31:03that they are not going to pick up the phone and call.
- 31:41Well, they definitely.
- 32:52Yeah,
- 32:53you know, or someone who can really be bothered by it, but I,
- 32:57I mean
- 33:07it was not a book.
- 33:09Call.
- 33:10It was the opposite of poking holes.
- 33:12It was saying it's such a distinct choice, because obviously,
- 33:16There's no way in on unearth. that.
- 33:17You didn't have the thought.
- 33:19People pick up phones and call each other.
- 33:21You're not helping.
- 33:22Stop talking. These two people just said he. Didn't.
- 33:26don't.
- 33:27Obviously nothing.
- 33:29Obviously. No. Jabroni.
- 33:31You wouldn't think,
- 33:35I actually did not
- 33:52Does it help if I say No.
- 33:55that it came off as profound?
- 33:58Yeah. It did.
- 33:59I agree, it felt like a very
- 34:14I'm so sorry.
- 34:16Obviously,
- 34:36What do you mean by a media?
- 34:37I'm sorry. I.