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5/21/26: Iran Stuns Trump With Red Line, Trump Indicts Cuba's Castro, Bezos Speaks Against Taxes · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, Let's go. People are so lucky that
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Speaker 1: two subsequent back to back days of Ryan Graham.
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Speaker 3: What more can you ask for?
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Speaker 1: What more could you possibly ask for? All right, let's
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Speaker 1: come up on me. We are going to start with Iran.
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this new statement from the
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Speaker 1: Iranian Supreme Leaders declaring that all nuclear material, including the
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Speaker 1: enrich material, must stay in Iran. It throws a real
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Speaker 1: wrench in the White House's plans as initial talks and
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Speaker 1: things looked potentially optimistic with some new thirty day memorandum
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Speaker 1: of understanding for a continued cease fire before an eventual
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Speaker 1: end to war. Ryan and I are going to break
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Speaker 1: all of that down, in addition to some news about
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Speaker 1: how Iranian drone production has been increasing. Second, is Cuba
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Speaker 1: Raoul Castro is he ninety four to ninety five.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to get my thirty five, but I
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Speaker 4: think people have been saying ninety four. So a ninety
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Speaker 4: four year old brother of Fidelgaas four years young, ninety
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Speaker 4: four years old. He has now been indicted by the
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Speaker 4: Department of Justice for an alleged murder plot stemming decades ago,
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Speaker 4: obviously a pretext for potential invasion. We're going to be
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Speaker 4: joined by our friend Wanda vid Rojas to break some
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Speaker 4: of that down and to actually give us not insight
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Speaker 4: not only into the alleged crimes here of Castro, but
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Speaker 4: into the South Florida cabal that continues to run our government.
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Speaker 1: We are going to talk about Jeff Bezos new interview
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Speaker 1: he just gave to CNBC in which he says that
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Speaker 1: his taxes could double and it would not help any
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Speaker 1: teacher in Queen's. We are also going to talk about
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Speaker 1: a new incident that happened in Israel where the Minister
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Speaker 1: of National Security Imar Ben Gavir, was seen harassing flotilla
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Speaker 1: detainees a AID flotilla, many of them have Western passports.
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Speaker 1: It has ignited a major international incident. Despite Ryan they
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Speaker 1: do this literally every day, but they do it to Palestinians.
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Speaker 1: This time around, they did it to some people with
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Speaker 1: Western passports, and they did it on camera, which I
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Speaker 1: guess has never really mattered in the past, but this
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Speaker 1: time it was both of those things where even the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister is like, this does not represent our values.
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Speaker 1: It is amusing because it would be like Trump saying
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Speaker 1: Todd Blanche, the Attorney General, does not represent the government
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Speaker 1: of the United You're like, wait, hold on a second,
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Speaker 1: what how does that work?
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Speaker 4: Like one guy gets caught insider trading. Trump is like,
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Speaker 4: that does.
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Speaker 1: Not represent does not represent our values. We are also
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Speaker 1: going to cover a Tucker Carlson interview on Israeli television,
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Speaker 1: extraordinary interview, something that Israelis have not seen in quite
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Speaker 1: some time. It's called the Truth about What's actually happening
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Speaker 1: and start with what's happening in Iran. I's going to
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Speaker 1: put this up here. This is the latest breaking news Reuters.
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Speaker 1: Iran's Supreme Leader has now issued a directive that the
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Speaker 1: countries near weapons grade uranium should not be sent abroad,
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Speaker 1: two senior Iranian sources said, hardening Tehran's stance on one
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Speaker 1: of the main US demands. So this is a by
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Speaker 1: far ryan the biggest sticking point of the entire deal,
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Speaker 1: not even potentially even more so than the strait of
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Speaker 1: hor moves. Raniums have shown some level of flexibility because effectively,
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Speaker 1: what this new directive from the Supreme Leader says is
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Speaker 1: number one, this cannot be questioned because it's coming from
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Leader. So that means this is policy. This
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Speaker 1: is the policy that has been set out too. Trump
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Speaker 1: has said, actually that all of the weapons grade uranium
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Speaker 1: in fact, all of the uranium has to not only
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Speaker 1: be taken out of Iran, but they would not even
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Speaker 1: accept it being sent to China and to Russia, which
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Speaker 1: previously had been floated. Here the Supreme Leader is drawing
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Speaker 1: a complete red line saying it is not leaving the
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Speaker 1: country period, which means that they will retain some level
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Speaker 1: of control over it. They have offered in the past
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Speaker 1: to downblend their uranium under IAEA inspections. And I know
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Speaker 1: this can sound a little bit technical, but the bottom
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Speaker 1: line is this. It is a huge middle finger to
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Speaker 1: probably the number one nuclear demand that Donald Trump is
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Speaker 1: made from the outset in this entire war.
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Speaker 4: And just for our little literacy, Reuters has been very
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Speaker 4: good on its coverage. Aron they do have sources in
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Speaker 4: the Iranian government. They they haven't fallen for all of
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Speaker 4: the different lucy in the football moves that the US
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Speaker 4: has tried to play here. So and this is being
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Speaker 4: done publicly. So this is I think, you know, this
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Speaker 4: is credible reporting that we can we can talk about
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Speaker 4: as actually bearing out right, which is the thing we
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Speaker 4: have to do when it comes to this war. Good flock,
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Speaker 4: but unfortunately, but yeah, so Trump has repeatedly said that
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Speaker 4: the issue is public relations, that the issue is optics,
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Speaker 4: like this is this is directly from Trump. He says
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Speaker 4: that he has said so many times that he's going
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Speaker 4: to get the nuclear dust. As he keeps calling it
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Speaker 4: that he needs to get the nuclear dust, he has
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Speaker 4: set up his own kind of trap that the only
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Speaker 4: way out is he's got to get it. Or and
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Speaker 4: he has said just psych he has said psychologically, I
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Speaker 4: would feel.
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Speaker 3: Much better if I got it.
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Speaker 4: That's not a very persuasive kind of argument or motivation
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Speaker 4: from one side of the debate, that you have to
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Speaker 4: do it because you said you were going to do it.
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Speaker 4: If the actual goal is to make it so that
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Speaker 4: the surrounding countries but by which they mean Israel, are
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Speaker 4: safe from any kind of nuclear threat from Iran downblending
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Speaker 4: under IAEA inspection would be plenty. Iranian's agreeing just not
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Speaker 4: to enter the facility you know where it's currently kind
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Speaker 4: of under.
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Speaker 3: Rubble would also satisfy that.
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Speaker 4: Taking it to a third country, Russia, as was done
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Speaker 4: in the twenty fifteen JCPOA, would also satisfy it. But
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Speaker 4: President Trump, while that was sort of on the table,
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Speaker 4: like you know, it was kind of floating as a possibility.
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Speaker 4: President Trump never once grasped at that. He never once said, oh, okay, Iran,
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Speaker 4: this was a way out. Iran seems willing to move
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Speaker 4: this to Russia. I can say that golf countries want
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Speaker 4: me to end this war live. Golf has struggling. We
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Speaker 4: got to get back to the basics, and we're going
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Speaker 4: to end this. That was on the table. Now the
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Speaker 4: new Supreme leader and there was regime change. Apparently, according
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Speaker 4: to Trump is saying no, that's that's no longer.
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Speaker 3: It's no longer on the table.
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Speaker 4: So now we have to see how Trump handles this humilization.
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Speaker 1: As of last night, Trump had said that we're right
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Speaker 1: on the borderline.
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Speaker 3: Let's take a lesson.
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Speaker 1: After you said yesterday're about an hour away from making
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Speaker 1: a decision.
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Speaker 2: Where does that stand today?
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Speaker 5: Have you heard anything from them?
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Speaker 6: Very right on the borderline.
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Speaker 7: Believe me, if we don't get the right answers, it
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Speaker 7: goes very quickly.
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Speaker 8: We're all ready to go.
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Speaker 6: We have to get the right answers.
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Speaker 7: It would have to be a complete answers, and if
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Speaker 7: we do, we save a lot of time, energy, and lives.
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Speaker 8: Most importantly, what you mean.
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Speaker 7: Could go very quickly for a few days.
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Speaker 6: It could be a few days, but it could go
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Speaker 6: very quickly.
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Speaker 8: Iran is a defeated nation.
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Speaker 7: We're dealing with some people, and we're dealing Actually, I
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Speaker 7: must tell you, we're dealing with some very good people.
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Speaker 6: We're dealing with people that.
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Speaker 7: Are I think, far more reasonable than the people.
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Speaker 5: That are really no longer with us.
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Speaker 6: We're dealing with some people with.
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Speaker 7: Talent, with good brain power, and we're pretty impressed by it.
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Speaker 7: So hopefully those people will make a deal that's gonna
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Speaker 7: be great for everybody.
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Speaker 1: So at that time, he's gassing him up. At the
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Speaker 1: same time, though he says, I'm not in a hurry.
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Speaker 1: I'm not in a hurry at all. Let's take listen
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Speaker 1: to that.
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Speaker 5: Only yron deal.
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Speaker 8: Would you be open to a limited deal that just
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Speaker 8: covered the straight uphimrs on Iran. It's a limited deal
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Speaker 8: just for a longest the.
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Speaker 6: Spot we would have to open the strait that would
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Speaker 6: open immediately. So we're gonna give this one shot. I'm
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Speaker 6: gonna know, hurry, you never if they go the midterms,
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna hurry.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna know hurry.
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Speaker 6: I just I deally. I'd like to see few people
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Speaker 6: guilled as opposed to a lot. We can do it
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Speaker 6: either way, but but I'd like to see a few
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Speaker 6: people kill. I just wonder whether or not they have
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Speaker 6: the good of the people, because some of the things
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Speaker 6: said doing to me means they don't have the good
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Speaker 6: of the people, and they have to have the good
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Speaker 6: of the bad book.
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Speaker 1: Not in a hurry, not in a hurry at all.
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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe not again. Now, speaking of media literacy,
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Speaker 1: many of you should know this one. Let's put it
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Speaker 1: up here on the screen. New Iran proposal triggers the
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Speaker 1: tense Trump Netanyahu call from Barakravid over at Axios, who
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Speaker 1: gets very testy if you point out his previous IDF
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Speaker 1: military background. But anyways, Trump and Israeli Prime Minister netanyahuo
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Speaker 1: discussed a new effort to reach a deal with Iran
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Speaker 1: in a difficult call, a three sources said. One source
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Speaker 1: said Nettiyah, who's quote hair was on fire after the call,
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Speaker 1: So at first I'm like, hey, maybe this is a
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Speaker 1: good thing. So here's what they say. A revised piece
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Speaker 1: memo was drafted by Katar and Pakistan with the input
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Speaker 1: from the other regional mediators. The outline of the deal
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Speaker 1: is a memorandum of understanding. Ryan. The memorandum of understanding
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Speaker 1: would lead to a day ceasefire, even though this currency
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Speaker 1: star has been longer than thirty days, a gradual reducing
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Speaker 1: of the US naval blockade, and allegedly, like Iranian lack
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Speaker 1: of control over the Straits of Hormuz, some sort of
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Speaker 1: sanctions relief in the immediate term, like a twenty five
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Speaker 1: percent unfreezing. However, it does require the Iranians to make
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Speaker 1: at least some pre commitments to an eventual deal on
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Speaker 1: the nuclear file. This just doesn't really fit with a
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Speaker 1: lot of what we've seen out of them. I do
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Speaker 1: especially want your analysis here with Pakistan. Let's put the
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Speaker 1: next one up here on the screen, because they are
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Speaker 1: the lynchpin in this entire thing. This is from the
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Speaker 1: Pakistani media. They say Pakistan, on behalf of several regional countries,
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Speaker 1: is trying to convince i Ron to restore the strait
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Speaker 1: to its pre war status. At the same time, Trump
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Speaker 1: has told the Gulf countries We're ready to reset tizes
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Speaker 1: with i Run if it sezes the current opportunity and
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Speaker 1: signs a deal. Tehran has to make a final call
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Speaker 1: within the next two days. So we do know that
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Speaker 1: that's kind of happening at the current moment. There were
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Speaker 1: some original reports Pakistan was going to the Pakistani who
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Speaker 1: was it the Army chief was going to go fly
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Speaker 1: to Tehran present this deal, make it into a whole
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Speaker 1: big thing. But then the news that the Supreme Leader
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Speaker 1: announcement that came out this morning kind of throws a
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Speaker 1: wrench into this whole thing.
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Speaker 4: As people have been pointing out axios published by Barackravid
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Speaker 4: almost identical stories in June of twenty twenty five, right
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Speaker 4: before the Twelve Day War started, and then again in
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Speaker 4: February of this year, right before this ongoing war started.
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Speaker 4: So when some people saw that article like, oh wait,
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Speaker 4: I've read this twice.
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Speaker 3: Before, and I know what follows.
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Speaker 4: War resumes, right, and perhaps the Iranians are tired of
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Speaker 4: this pattern and are kind of throwing in some type
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Speaker 4: of new variable here, because otherwise it's like groundhog Day,
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Speaker 4: like Barakravid promises Netna who was furious, and that Trump
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Speaker 4: is on the brink of reaching a deal with them,
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Speaker 4: and then there's a surprise attack and they, you know,
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Speaker 4: they kill all that.
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Speaker 3: As many politicians and military figures.
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Speaker 4: And and Middle schoolers as they can, as they can
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Speaker 4: in like a short period of time. The the this
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Speaker 4: new fatwah about nuclear power, if it is it even
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Speaker 4: a fat one, I don't directive. I don't think it's
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Speaker 4: a foughtwa.
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Speaker 1: I'm not enough of a Shia religious scholar to the difference.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the bigger difference is.
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Speaker 4: Being harder to climb down from a fatwah than a directive.
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Speaker 3: Directive issue a new directive.
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Speaker 4: It shouldn't logically be that big of a deal because
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Speaker 4: there are so many ways for you to ensure nuclear
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Speaker 4: non proliferation or uh, make sure that inspections are robust enough,
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Speaker 4: especially because, as Trump has repeatedly said, they devastated the
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Speaker 4: entire program.
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Speaker 3: They kill all of the scientists. It's buried. It's literally
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Speaker 3: buried under rubble right now.
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Speaker 4: As he said, we have seven cameras on it watching
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Speaker 4: it at all times.
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Speaker 3: That's true, they do. So what are you freaking out about? Like,
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Speaker 3: so a deal should be there, But I don't know
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Speaker 3: with the way they're pessimistic.
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Speaker 1: I think people should be pessimistic because in the way
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Speaker 1: that Trump has talked, Trump has actually trapped himself twice ironically,
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Speaker 1: so he did the escalation trap where he didn't defeat Iran,
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Speaker 1: and so now he has only two options surrender and
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Speaker 1: or basically escalation. The other trap that he made is
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Speaker 1: he basically left himself no negotiating room whenever it came
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Speaker 1: to the nuclear issue, where he said, no, we're going
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Speaker 1: to take it all. And so those two things is
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Speaker 1: way past the JCPOA and actually run in a stronger
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Speaker 1: position now because of their drone threat, their ability to
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Speaker 1: sustain and survive in onslaught of the full force and
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Speaker 1: might of the United States Empire. Well, you also have,
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Speaker 1: you know, the neo con faction here in the United States.
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Speaker 1: Let's put a six up here on the screen. Here's
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham in only the way that Lindsay Graham can.
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Speaker 1: It's a subtweet with the you know, a belligerent praise
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Speaker 1: here at the top. I believe President Trump has done
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Speaker 1: a brilliant job and weakening the Iranian terrorist regime to
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Speaker 1: the lowest they've been since nineteen seventy nine. Pass off
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Speaker 1: to our commander in chief, to all who serve under
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Speaker 1: his command. Like everyone, I hope for a diplomatics lation, yes,
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Speaker 1: but it must be comprehensive to ensure Iran is no
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Speaker 1: longer the largest state bonser of terror. It must be real.
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Speaker 1: Negotiations was reliable. I appreciate everyone's efforts. And now he says,
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing the Pakistan's field Marshal may travel to Iran.
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Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Maybe he'll report the status of
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Speaker 1: Iranian military aircraft being housed on Pakistani air bases. Like
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Speaker 1: so many, I'm watching very closely what unfolds yet again
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Speaker 1: another effort to reach a deal with the Iranian regime.
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Speaker 1: I wish all involved success that it is real. Very
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Speaker 1: obviously thinly veils subtweet in this entire thing. And I
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Speaker 1: think what it demonstrates to everybody is that Natanyahu, Babe,
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Speaker 1: the Iran war lobby, Mark Levin and others, if you
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Speaker 1: just watch all of their communications over the last seventy
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Speaker 1: two hours, they are freaking out as if the deal
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Speaker 1: is real. But they also are laying the ground to
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Speaker 1: make it so that when he resumes the war, they
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Speaker 1: can claim, you know that this was the correct policy.
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Speaker 1: And also a demonstrats still say, oh, well, by Trump
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Speaker 1: drawing the thing, drawing the lines where he has, they
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Speaker 1: can say, oh, Iran's not negotiating good faith when in
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Speaker 1: reality like this was never on the table from the
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Speaker 1: beginning after the war, before the war, it's just literally
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Speaker 1: never existed. If you want to go and take the
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Speaker 1: nuclear dust, if you will, then you're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: go and get it. The consequences us for here at
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Speaker 1: home are remain immense. Let's put the next one up here.
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Speaker 1: You actually flagged this one, Ryan. Thirty year treasury yields
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Speaker 1: have now topped five point one nine percent, the highest
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Speaker 1: sinse before the financial crisis? Is that good? Anyone will
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Speaker 1: tell me? Is that a good thing?
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Speaker 3: Who's that good?
16:48
Speaker 2: For?
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Speaker 3: Trying to think? Who that's?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they said rates for us following a string
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Speaker 1: of reports suggested inflationary pressures were reaccelerating as rising oil
16:58
Speaker 1: prices tied the conflict with run pushed costs higher. The
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Speaker 1: development has spooked fixed income investors and cause traders to
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Speaker 1: bet that the next move by the Fed could actually
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Speaker 1: be a rate hike instead of a reduction. What that
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Speaker 1: means is that this is elevated borrowing costs for the
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Speaker 1: government and for everyone. So this is going to affect
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Speaker 1: credit card rates, mortgage rates, the bond market. Remember, is
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Speaker 1: what originally forced Trump's hand whenever it came to the tariffs.
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Speaker 1: This time around, it's a little bit different. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: have utilateral control except for, you know, a total surrender.
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Speaker 1: So you have the financial markets where they are kind
17:34
Speaker 1: of ignore the stock market at this point, which is
17:36
Speaker 1: basically just all open AI and you know SpaceX mania
17:41
Speaker 1: AI literal AI mania in the stock market. But if
17:44
Speaker 1: you look at the bond market, you look at the
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Speaker 1: oil market. Let me see, where's gas at as of
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Speaker 1: today four fifty six a gallon. That's like three cents
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Speaker 1: higher than when I checked it a couple of days ago.
17:55
Speaker 1: Diesel five sixty five a gallon. I mean, it's just
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Speaker 1: it's hovering there. Umberg analysis came out this morning. The
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Speaker 1: median base case on Wall Street is that oil will
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Speaker 1: remain over one hundred dollars a barrel for at least
18:08
Speaker 1: the next year. So what's that about four bucks a
18:10
Speaker 1: gallon something like that. So, yeah, good luck, We're all
18:13
Speaker 1: going to be paying that for quite a long time.
18:15
Speaker 1: It's's not it's going to be a blip, a blip
18:17
Speaker 1: or a short excursion, as Trump continues to say.
18:20
Speaker 3: And Brent is down over the last couple of weeks.
18:23
Speaker 4: As this ceasefire has kind of held, yes, so that
18:27
Speaker 4: that flies right back up if he starts shooting again.
18:31
Speaker 4: Imagine if the United States government, with the world's most
18:35
Speaker 4: powerful military and a very powerful economy, is paying five
18:39
Speaker 4: point almost two percent for a thirty year Note, what
18:44
Speaker 4: are you going to pay when you go to the
18:45
Speaker 4: bank trying to get a mortgage. Yes, you don't have
18:47
Speaker 4: a military unless you have something I don't know you
18:50
Speaker 4: got going on over there. You don't have the world's
18:53
Speaker 4: most powerful economy behind you. You can't print money to pay
18:55
Speaker 4: it back, So you're going to be paying well into
18:59
Speaker 4: the sixth is five to six pushing seven, which completely
19:03
Speaker 4: seizes up our real estate market because you can't afford
19:08
Speaker 4: your mortgage. Then if you go out the house that
19:10
Speaker 4: you're going to want to go out to buy, it's
19:12
Speaker 4: going to cost you a lot more per month, and
19:14
Speaker 4: then you're gonna be stuck in your apartment.
19:17
Speaker 1: Well it's extremely ironic too, because Trump just appointed this
19:19
Speaker 1: new FED chair whose entire directed was to lower rates,
19:23
Speaker 1: and now the traders are like, no, he's actually gonna
19:26
Speaker 1: have to increase rates based on where.
19:28
Speaker 3: Things are, right, Yeah, things even more chaos, right, So.
19:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're headed to a stagflation and basically just nineteen
19:35
Speaker 1: seventies nonsense. And then finally we wanted to get this
19:37
Speaker 1: in here just came out this morning. Let's put a
19:40
Speaker 1: eight up here on the screen. Iran is now actually
19:43
Speaker 1: rebuilding the military industrial base faster than expected and is
19:47
Speaker 1: already producing new drones. According to US intelligence, this is
19:52
Speaker 1: just the latest in a slew of well, they've dug
19:55
Speaker 1: out all their missiles. Actually they're very resilient. Actually they
19:58
Speaker 1: still have all this Actually they still have the capacity.
20:01
Speaker 1: Like if we go back to it, it's actually it's
20:02
Speaker 1: going to be the exact same thing, maybe worse actually
20:05
Speaker 1: because this time around, they know how things went the
20:07
Speaker 1: first time. They've studied it. All the US aircraft would
20:11
Speaker 1: be more at risk based on the new tactics that
20:14
Speaker 1: they've used. I mean, the US has studied it too.
20:17
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some changes that they've made. I actually,
20:20
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, I don't know if you've seen this. Have
20:21
Speaker 1: you seen all these drone cages going up all over
20:24
Speaker 1: the UAE. So, I mean, this is going to be
20:26
Speaker 1: the new world that we live in, is that every
20:29
Speaker 1: critical piece of infrastructure will have a hideous cage a
20:32
Speaker 1: hideous metal cage that surrounds it, just to block a
20:36
Speaker 1: drone from being able to smash it. Obviously, a missile
20:39
Speaker 1: still would be able to but those are much easier
20:41
Speaker 1: to hit than a twenty thousand dollars drone. But I
20:43
Speaker 1: did want to flag that just in case hostilities.
20:45
Speaker 3: Five star hotel with this little cage around it.
20:48
Speaker 1: Imagine that, right? And so that's that's kind.
20:50
Speaker 3: Of beautiful fountain with a cage around it.
20:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, a gorgeous mountain. The imagine the guests at the
20:57
Speaker 1: Dubai Fairmont or whatever whatever there's a hotel, is the
21:00
Speaker 1: seven star hotel, I forget the name of it, or
21:03
Speaker 1: the borge Khalifa, But with the the bush Kalleepa looks
21:06
Speaker 1: a little different, doesn't that. Whatever, You've got a cage
21:08
Speaker 1: that runs up the entire inside of.
21:10
Speaker 3: It, a cage on your balcony.
21:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's going to help the Dubai
21:13
Speaker 1: a cratering real estate market, or the hotel occupancy rate,
21:16
Speaker 1: or Dubai International Airport look flagging. All this because hostilities
21:20
Speaker 1: could resume at any moment. If they were to resume,
21:23
Speaker 1: in Trump's mind, it would be a limited strike. Now
21:26
Speaker 1: in Ron's mind that it wouldn't be in Trump's mind
21:29
Speaker 1: it would be a limited strike, and so if he
21:31
Speaker 1: were to do it, it would happen over the weekend,
21:33
Speaker 1: I think, because the oil markets in the stock market
21:36
Speaker 1: couldn't react, and he would want some chance of being
21:38
Speaker 1: able to go in and then stop before markets were
21:40
Speaker 1: able to open on Monday. But look, that's where things
21:43
Speaker 1: are right now, and in a very strange deja vu,
21:46
Speaker 1: we can now turn to Cuba to talk. It feels
21:50
Speaker 1: like only yesterday we were talking about the kidnapping of
21:52
Speaker 1: a Latin American dictator and the potential conflicts coming with Iran.
21:57
Speaker 1: So yeah, wow, three months later and we're exactly same.
22:00
Speaker 1: We've got our good friend Juanda vid Rojas standing by.
22:03
Speaker 1: Let's get to it. I'm very excited now to be
22:07
Speaker 1: joined by our friend Juan David or Rojas. He is
22:09
Speaker 1: a independent journalist, he's got his own substax social democracy
22:12
Speaker 1: with populist characteristics. Are resident Latin America expert, So one,
22:17
Speaker 1: you're here to talk about what's going on between the
22:20
Speaker 1: United States government and Cuba. The White House released this
22:23
Speaker 1: propaganda video yesterday indicting Raul Castro, an age ninety four
22:28
Speaker 1: years old. Let's take a listen.
22:30
Speaker 9: Today we are announcing an indictment charging Roul Castro and
22:37
Speaker 9: several others with conspiracy to kill US nationals. Just this
22:48
Speaker 9: is a story all too familiar. On February twenty fourth,
22:52
Speaker 9: nineteen ninety six, two civilian aircraft operated by Brothers to
22:57
Speaker 9: the Rescue were shot down over Internet National waters by
23:02
Speaker 9: military aircraft from Cuba. Four men were killed, Carlos Costo,
23:09
Speaker 9: Armando Lejandre Junior, Mario de la Pigne, and Pablo Morales.
23:18
Speaker 9: They were unarmed civilians and were flying humanitarian missions for
23:24
Speaker 9: the rescue and protection of people fleeing oppression across the
23:30
Speaker 9: Florida Straits. As alleged in the indictment, Raul Castro and
23:35
Speaker 9: five co defendants participated in a conspiracy that ended with
23:38
Speaker 9: Cuban military aircraft firing missiles at those civilian planes and
23:43
Speaker 9: killing four Americans.
23:44
Speaker 1: All right, one, that's the story. What's actually going on here.
23:48
Speaker 5: So some important context, and that announcement was made in
23:52
Speaker 5: Miami in Freedom Tower, which you know is an icon
23:55
Speaker 5: down here. You know, we're really pushing the limits of
23:59
Speaker 5: hip hop in the region. Now, I mean by this logic,
24:02
Speaker 5: you know, we've extra judicially killed like two hundred alleged
24:06
Speaker 5: narco terrorists, a lot of which you know, they've not
24:08
Speaker 5: given us any evidence for that. By the same logic, basically,
24:12
Speaker 5: how many countries you know could indict Trump for like
24:17
Speaker 5: these killings. Beyond that, as far as the incident itself
24:20
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety six with Brothers to the Rescue Brothers
24:23
Speaker 5: to the Rescue, the head of it, Hosea, It was
24:27
Speaker 5: a self professed former CIA operative who participated in acts
24:31
Speaker 5: of terrorism on the island. Up until the nineties, there
24:35
Speaker 5: were bombings conducted by Cuban exiles on the island. Horrible,
24:40
Speaker 5: horrible stuff. Is a long history of exile terrorism here
24:44
Speaker 5: in South Florida, including of other exiles that were viewed
24:47
Speaker 5: as like not sufficiently anti communists enough, But so Brothers
24:53
Speaker 5: to the Rescue, however, was a humanitarian organization they would
24:57
Speaker 5: like try to find by Santos, you know, people fleeing
25:01
Speaker 5: the island on like these small rafts or whatever. The
25:05
Speaker 5: issue was that they had violated systematically twenty times Cuba's
25:09
Speaker 5: airspace and so finally the Cuban government decided they've given
25:13
Speaker 5: them multiple warnings and they'd also been worn by the
25:15
Speaker 5: Flint administration. But ultimately, yeah, the Cuban government took those
25:19
Speaker 5: planes down. They were technically in international waters when it happened,
25:22
Speaker 5: but that's yeah, that's all the context got it.
25:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cubas to this day disputes that they were in
25:29
Speaker 4: international waters. Is what do we know about like exactly
25:35
Speaker 4: where they were at that point, Because some of the
25:38
Speaker 4: planes had actually flown over the Cuba's land mass, these
25:42
Speaker 4: do seem to have certainly been flying over water and
25:46
Speaker 4: not land mass, so that's not in question.
25:49
Speaker 3: What do we know for sure about where they were?
25:52
Speaker 5: The reporting I've seen is that at the time when
25:54
Speaker 5: they were struck down, they were in international waters. I mean,
25:57
Speaker 5: you know, there's oftentimes dispute as a different country say
26:00
Speaker 5: they're no, actually the international waters. But it's also true, however,
26:06
Speaker 5: that in the same flights they had violated Cuban airspace.
26:09
Speaker 5: So just because they were shot down when when in
26:12
Speaker 5: the specific moment when they were shot down, doesn't mean
26:14
Speaker 5: they hadn't that same day violated.
26:17
Speaker 1: Zooming out a little bit here, Juan, what are we doing.
26:20
Speaker 1: We're indicting Raoul Costori's ninety four years old. This alleged
26:24
Speaker 1: incident took play What year was it ninety six or.
26:26
Speaker 5: Eight ninety six?
26:27
Speaker 1: So I was four years old. I'm now thirty four,
26:29
Speaker 1: So is that thirty years ago whenever this allegedly happened.
26:34
Speaker 1: So why do it now? Is this the Venezuela playbook?
26:39
Speaker 1: What is the impetus for trying to do this? How
26:43
Speaker 1: does it fit with the broader Trump administration approach to Cuba?
26:48
Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, we can only speculate, but
26:52
Speaker 5: presumably they're trying a similar kind of playbook to Maduro.
26:56
Speaker 5: You have these charges against the head of state. Maybe
26:59
Speaker 5: you know, the negotiating with the regime, they might try
27:02
Speaker 5: to get to some sort of arrangement where they hand
27:05
Speaker 5: out where they asked for them to hand over a
27:08
Speaker 5: Rouel Costro. That seems unlikely. But most of this, it's
27:14
Speaker 5: it's symbolic. It's just meant to appease people here in
27:17
Speaker 5: South Florida. I mean, you heard the applause. And I've
27:20
Speaker 5: said this for a while. I think a lot of
27:22
Speaker 5: this is an electoral strategy, because Trump's approval is cratered
27:26
Speaker 5: with Latinos, even a lot of Latina Trump Latino voters.
27:30
Speaker 5: Latinas have voted for Trump, He's lost like half a
27:34
Speaker 5: third of his Latino voters since then. So in this way,
27:40
Speaker 5: I mean even in South Florida we talked about this,
27:43
Speaker 5: I think last year. Even among Cuban Americans, the immigration,
27:46
Speaker 5: especially the deportation policy is extremely controversial. There was this
27:50
Speaker 5: insane case of this Trump supporting Cuban national who was
27:54
Speaker 5: deported to a maximum security president s Watini. He did
27:58
Speaker 5: have a criminal history, but you know this is you know,
28:01
Speaker 5: for Cubans, the thought of like being deported to a
28:03
Speaker 5: third country that's insane, to a maximum security prison. So yeah,
28:08
Speaker 5: I see this as them trying to salvage support among
28:11
Speaker 5: a key voting base here in South Florida. And you
28:15
Speaker 5: talk to a lot of you know, rank and file
28:18
Speaker 5: of what I call Miami neocons down here, and yeah,
28:20
Speaker 5: they'll say that they're not fans of the immigration policy.
28:23
Speaker 5: And you know, there's been a lot of back and
28:25
Speaker 5: forth between Maria Vidas asad representative down here, who's pushed
28:29
Speaker 5: for the Dignity Act that MAGA is called amnesty, but
28:33
Speaker 5: she's obviously very hawkish against Cuba, Venezuela, et cetera. So
28:39
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of people will tell you it's like, yeah,
28:41
Speaker 5: I don't really like the immigration stuff, but he's going
28:44
Speaker 5: to liberate Cuba, so that's great.
28:46
Speaker 4: And while he's talking about liberating Cuban Cuba, at least
28:49
Speaker 4: two Cubans have died in immigrant detention centers since Yeah, yeah, yeah,
28:53
Speaker 4: of course his round up. But let's let's hear from
28:55
Speaker 4: Trump directly on his latest about his interest in freeing Cuba.
29:01
Speaker 3: Let's play B three here.
29:02
Speaker 8: I have so many Cuban friends in Miami, mostly in
29:05
Speaker 8: Miami and Florida, and they're unbelievable people. They're unbelievable entrepreneurs,
29:11
Speaker 8: and they'd like to go back.
29:13
Speaker 6: I think hopefully they're going to want to live here,
29:15
Speaker 6: but they want to go back. Maybe they'll a best.
29:17
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens.
29:18
Speaker 6: But we're bringing up Cuba.
29:20
Speaker 4: And he said he and in my Secretary of state
29:23
Speaker 4: he's even from there, which is sort of true, but
29:25
Speaker 4: he was born here. Put up before Marco Rubio directly
29:31
Speaker 4: appealed kind of to the Cuban people in a kind
29:34
Speaker 4: of kind of Spanish language address, kind of urging them
29:37
Speaker 4: to over overthrow their government.
29:40
Speaker 3: What what did? What?
29:42
Speaker 4: What was the message that Rubio sent to kind of
29:45
Speaker 4: the people of Cuba through that Spanish language address.
29:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a stunning bit of propaganda. Yeah, he
29:53
Speaker 5: gave the whole speech in Spanish. And look, I'm a
29:57
Speaker 5: fervent critic of both neo conservatives and the Cuban regimes.
30:01
Speaker 5: I think there are things we can blame both of
30:02
Speaker 5: these factions for. Like any good propaganda, Rubio mixes truth
30:07
Speaker 5: with lies, and so, you know, it is true a
30:12
Speaker 5: lot of the Cuban elite they live extremely comfortably in
30:15
Speaker 5: Madrid Gayesa. Like it's this conglomerate that controls a lot
30:21
Speaker 5: of enterprises on the island. It's basically this regime slush fund.
30:24
Speaker 5: They like pocketed the billions that they got from Venezuela
30:27
Speaker 5: during the two thousands and just have used it. You know,
30:31
Speaker 5: like I was the I've been in Cuba three times.
30:33
Speaker 5: I was last there in twenty twenty four, and even
30:36
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four, they were like still building hotels,
30:38
Speaker 5: knowing full well that you know, no tourists were coming in.
30:43
Speaker 5: It's just a form of cronyism. So you know, some
30:46
Speaker 5: of that is true. On the other hand, you know,
30:49
Speaker 5: he says, it's not our fault that you're suffering. You
30:54
Speaker 5: know they talk about an oil embargo, sanctions, whatever. No,
31:00
Speaker 5: it's all the Cuban regime. They're the reason why you're suffering.
31:03
Speaker 5: They're the reason why the power is going on. That's
31:05
Speaker 5: completely ridiculous. Obviously, the blackouts have to do with the
31:09
Speaker 5: fact that we're not even letting third countries Russia, Mexico
31:13
Speaker 5: send oil to the island their energy grid. Sure you
31:16
Speaker 5: could argue that, you know, decades ago they could have
31:18
Speaker 5: improved it. And you know now supposedly they're getting help
31:21
Speaker 5: from China building solar panels. But the reality is that
31:24
Speaker 5: and he talks about the Bahamas. If we were doing
31:27
Speaker 5: this to the Bahamas, obviously they would collapse. We could
31:30
Speaker 5: do this to any any island country in the world
31:33
Speaker 5: and they would not survive.
31:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. One, there's some latest news I actually want your
31:37
Speaker 1: reaction to. We can put this in post production. The
31:40
Speaker 1: Nimitz aircraft carrier has actually just entered the Caribbean as
31:44
Speaker 1: you and I are speaking. They say the carrier arrives
31:46
Speaker 1: in the South Caribbean. On the same day, the Justice
31:49
Speaker 1: Department announced charges against Raul Castro. One of the general
31:53
Speaker 1: rules one that we have at this point is when
31:56
Speaker 1: the carriers go. We usually military action of some kind follows.
32:01
Speaker 1: At first it was there to pressure Maduro, then we
32:03
Speaker 1: ended up using it. Then it was there to pressure Iran,
32:06
Speaker 1: then we ended up using it. Now we've got the
32:08
Speaker 1: nimits there. They say, well, it may not engage in
32:10
Speaker 1: direct combat operations. But of course that same aircraft carrier,
32:15
Speaker 1: US naval assets were used as a staging grounds for
32:18
Speaker 1: the kidnapping raid of Nicholas Maduro. Now, how do you
32:23
Speaker 1: expect the Cuban government to respond? Would it be a
32:26
Speaker 1: Venezuela style thing? They accept it? Basically they have some
32:31
Speaker 1: successor Raoul Castro is ninety four. You want to put
32:33
Speaker 1: them on trial? Whatever, All right, give us oil relief
32:36
Speaker 1: and then we can all sail off into the sunset.
32:38
Speaker 1: Or do you think that they would resist?
32:41
Speaker 5: It's hard to say. I mean, you know, and you know,
32:46
Speaker 5: we can look at Venezuela. It's clear that a lot
32:49
Speaker 5: of the people in charge, like you know, it's only
32:51
Speaker 5: lip service that the ideology, they're really willing to do
32:55
Speaker 5: whatever to stay in power, to stay in power. Maybe
32:59
Speaker 5: in Cuba a lot of the more radical sectors would
33:02
Speaker 5: not be willing to give in. I mean, here's another thing,
33:05
Speaker 5: Ruby talks about oh, you guys have rejected reform. That's
33:08
Speaker 5: true in the sense that like Russia, China, and Cuba's
33:12
Speaker 5: own economists have been telling them to follow like the
33:16
Speaker 5: Chinese and Vietnamese models for a long time. And you
33:19
Speaker 5: know what, like d es Canadi will say, it's like, oh,
33:21
Speaker 5: they weren't subjected to the same kind of embargo that
33:23
Speaker 5: we were. But so yeah, like guy A sign all
33:28
Speaker 5: that there are entrenched sectors like in any other country,
33:31
Speaker 5: that are just vehemently opposed to change. But as far
33:35
Speaker 5: as military action is concerned, you know, the reporting drop
33:38
Speaker 5: Side has done a lot on this that in the
33:41
Speaker 5: government they are willing to negotiate exactly what you know,
33:46
Speaker 5: concessions they're willing to give. It's hard to say now
33:49
Speaker 5: as far as the NIMTS is concerned, which UFO fans,
33:52
Speaker 5: you know, we know about the KNIMTS. But in this case, yeah,
33:57
Speaker 5: like you said, with Iran and with Venezuela, honestly, I'm
34:01
Speaker 5: going to be I'm going to be real. We we
34:03
Speaker 5: could seriously expect to see some sort of military action
34:07
Speaker 5: in the future. The problem is once you you know,
34:09
Speaker 5: you've dedicated so many resources and pushed so far rhetorically,
34:13
Speaker 5: I mean, especially down here. If they don't end up
34:15
Speaker 5: doing something, uh, they're going to face some backlash.
34:18
Speaker 4: Interesting, and I wonder what it means because in Venezuela,
34:22
Speaker 4: Maduro was the undisputed kind of leader of the country,
34:26
Speaker 4: whereas in Cuba, power is a lot more kind of diffuse.
34:30
Speaker 4: Like DZ Canal is technically in charge, he's fairly weak
34:35
Speaker 4: and unpopular leader. You know, I think the pressure that
34:39
Speaker 4: he's come under has, you know, paradoxically kind of increased
34:43
Speaker 4: his stature a little bit, at least among the kind
34:46
Speaker 4: of cadre of the rest.
34:47
Speaker 3: Of the leadership of the Huban government.
34:49
Speaker 4: There are plenty of people who have their own fiefdoms
34:52
Speaker 4: there that you know, report to the canal but not really.
34:56
Speaker 3: But then you've got Roald.
34:57
Speaker 4: Castro, this aging uh, you know, he's no longer in power,
35:02
Speaker 4: but kind of everything sort of still can sort of
35:05
Speaker 4: run through him. And so it doesn't leave you the
35:10
Speaker 4: same button to push like you had in Venezuela. Like, okay,
35:12
Speaker 4: let's say you grabbed Diaz Canal, What what has that
35:17
Speaker 4: actually achieved.
35:18
Speaker 3: Let's tell you grab Castro, but you leave Thea's canal.
35:20
Speaker 4: You would grab them both what like, you know, you
35:24
Speaker 4: but you left, but you left all the various committees
35:27
Speaker 4: in place? Or does does none of it matter? And
35:30
Speaker 4: Trump just needs some sort of something.
35:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point. And you know, I think
35:38
Speaker 5: that Trump would be more willing to come to to
35:40
Speaker 5: come to some sort of arrangement with the regime. And
35:43
Speaker 5: you know, like I said, like Ruby was saying, oh,
35:45
Speaker 5: you know, we want you guys to open up. He's
35:48
Speaker 5: full of crap like, but he wants this regime change
35:50
Speaker 5: and that's a fundamental problem. Uh. You know, I I
35:54
Speaker 5: wrote a recent piece for New Lines where there's a
35:57
Speaker 5: part where I compare like the Israel lobby to the
36:00
Speaker 5: Miami lobby. You know, like the Israel lobby like they
36:04
Speaker 5: don't really care what happens, and the Iran like that.
36:06
Speaker 5: You know, they'd be fine with a failed state, uh
36:09
Speaker 5: is state collapse, any any kind of stuff like that.
36:12
Speaker 5: In Miami, they want full on regime change and they
36:14
Speaker 5: will not settle for anything else. So you have some
36:16
Speaker 5: sort of Desi Rodriguez type situation in Cuba. Uh, maybe
36:21
Speaker 5: that would work for Trump, but it's not gonna work
36:23
Speaker 5: for people down here. They're not gonna and a lot
36:25
Speaker 5: of Trump's government, especially with regards the Hemispheric's policy, as
36:30
Speaker 5: staffed by these Miami neocons, a lot of the ambassadors
36:33
Speaker 5: and close friends of Rubio that are in charge. And
36:37
Speaker 5: so last, yeah, and it's hard to say that the
36:40
Speaker 5: difference between Cuba and Venezuela is that, you know, Cuba
36:43
Speaker 5: is a one party state. They don't have a formal
36:45
Speaker 5: opposition like Venezuela has, you know the trappings of like
36:48
Speaker 5: democratic institutions.
36:51
Speaker 7: Uh.
36:51
Speaker 5: In Cuba, the government controls everything.
36:54
Speaker 4: So yeah, So speaking of drops out reporting, one little
36:59
Speaker 4: funny piece to leave you guys with, we can put
37:01
Speaker 4: up B five here. There's been all this talk about
37:03
Speaker 4: this hundred million dollar offer of humanitarian aid that Rubio
37:08
Speaker 4: has made to Cuba.
37:09
Speaker 3: He has said, you know, they're sort of not willing
37:11
Speaker 3: to take it.
37:12
Speaker 4: We looked into it soars as toll as the aid
37:14
Speaker 4: effectively amounts to about one hundred million dollars worth of
37:17
Speaker 4: starlinks that they want to send on onto the island Cuba.
37:22
Speaker 4: I mean, Rubio has at times referred to this as
37:24
Speaker 4: quote food and medicine, but in other statements has acknowledged
37:27
Speaker 4: that it's actually about fast and free internet so you know,
37:32
Speaker 4: we'll see whether or not Musks, you know, Musks SpaceX
37:37
Speaker 4: ends up becoming a player and this as well.
37:40
Speaker 3: Do you have any final.
37:41
Speaker 4: Thoughts on this, this bizarre one hundred million dollar offer
37:45
Speaker 4: of humanitarian aid that is coming at the same time
37:48
Speaker 4: that we have a blockade around the island.
37:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's clear. Yeah, they you know, they
37:58
Speaker 5: who knows what's exactly in their head, but they're probably thinking, oh,
38:00
Speaker 5: if we can get more internet to people on the island,
38:02
Speaker 5: especially if it's not controlled by the government, we can
38:05
Speaker 5: spur some sort of uprising. Oh but one last thing,
38:09
Speaker 5: actually I sent this to both of you guys. Bloomberg
38:11
Speaker 5: reported yesterday, hours before the indictment that what was the
38:16
Speaker 5: name of it? This is a Canadian mining company which
38:19
Speaker 5: is like the last one. It has like a cobalt
38:23
Speaker 5: mine on the island. They were going to pull out
38:26
Speaker 5: last week. They announced they were leaving Cuba because of
38:28
Speaker 5: additional sanctions we put on the Cuban government, and they
38:32
Speaker 5: reversed yesterday saying that they were going to give a
38:35
Speaker 5: stake to a Trump ally. So yeah, it looks like
38:39
Speaker 5: Trump and there's been this big push, you know, the
38:41
Speaker 5: recent meeting between Trump and Lula for critical rare arts
38:45
Speaker 5: and all their critical minerals.
38:47
Speaker 3: So amazing.
38:48
Speaker 4: You just got to get Trump cronies in there, and
38:50
Speaker 4: we're good.
38:51
Speaker 1: Love it. Yeah, we'll see how. We'll see how the
38:54
Speaker 1: Florida guys like that. One. I won't lie, I'm gonna
38:57
Speaker 1: laugh my ass off one if they end up robel Castro.
39:01
Speaker 1: But then the regime becomes like filthy rich and we
39:05
Speaker 1: basically strike some sort of a deal and they're like, wait,
39:08
Speaker 1: but that's not what we wanted. I'm like, oh oops,
39:11
Speaker 1: no takes you baxies gone Trump until yeah, Trump do you?
39:15
Speaker 1: That will be with the Cuban government will issue an
39:17
Speaker 1: exclusive casino license to Donald Trump Junior. Uh, And that
39:21
Speaker 1: that will be how this entire thing ends.
39:23
Speaker 5: Could be could be the lobb you would have to
39:26
Speaker 5: stand for it.
39:27
Speaker 1: Right, all right, thank you very much for your time.
39:28
Speaker 1: We appreciate your analysis.
39:30
Speaker 3: Makes sense.
39:33
Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos sat down with CNBC, which usually gives us
39:36
Speaker 4: some pretty good content. Let's let's take a look at
39:40
Speaker 4: just a little bit.
39:40
Speaker 10: And Elizabeth Warren has made this point that I think
39:43
Speaker 10: she's made any reference to you and others are able
39:46
Speaker 10: to pay a lower tax rate, even though you're paying
39:48
Speaker 10: an enormous some in taxes a lower tax rate. Well
39:52
Speaker 10: then maybe.
39:54
Speaker 11: People uh sometimes say that that you know, I don't
39:59
Speaker 11: pay taxes. So true, I paid billions of dollars in
40:01
Speaker 11: taxes and it's a perfect Again, if people want me
40:04
Speaker 11: to pay more billions, then let's have that debate. But
40:07
Speaker 11: don't pretend you know that this that that's going to
40:10
Speaker 11: solve the problem. You could you could double the taxes
40:14
Speaker 11: I pay, and it's not going to help that teacher
40:16
Speaker 11: in Queens. I promise you this is so you can't
40:20
Speaker 11: connect those two things not logically. You know there there
40:25
Speaker 11: there are mark savels. Why is rent expensive? Why is
40:28
Speaker 11: rent so expensive? I recently saw somebody blamed it on Airbnb. Okay,
40:33
Speaker 11: Airbnb is not the cost of expensive rent. In fact,
40:36
Speaker 11: it's been almost no let me finish your one second.
40:38
Speaker 1: It's already been.
40:39
Speaker 11: Outlawed in New York City and rents are still very high.
40:43
Speaker 11: So we know airbnb isn't causing high rents. What's really
40:46
Speaker 11: causing high rent is government intervention.
40:51
Speaker 4: So mayor Mom Donnie shot back, and Dottie said, I
40:53
Speaker 4: know a few teachers and queens who would beg to differ,
40:56
Speaker 4: but yeah, more to the point, it's not. And then
40:58
Speaker 4: when you get to some more of his comments, I
41:01
Speaker 4: hate finding out how average these guys. I want them
41:05
Speaker 4: to be brilliant, Yes, because then I live in a.
41:08
Speaker 3: Slightly fair world. Yeah, it's still unfair, but at least.
41:12
Speaker 1: They are brilliant. But they're brilliant in a way that
41:14
Speaker 1: is not all that interesting, as in optimizing Amazon Prime
41:18
Speaker 1: and delivery service. But if you want to read the book,
41:20
Speaker 1: you should the Everything story. It's quite good twenty thirteen
41:23
Speaker 1: of the actual history of Amazon. But what we often
41:26
Speaker 1: find out is that being extraordinarily good at one thing
41:29
Speaker 1: often doesn't make you a particularly good at everything, and
41:33
Speaker 1: may in fact be inverse in terms of your ability
41:35
Speaker 1: to be a good season. So let's break this down.
41:37
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos says raising his taxes will not help anyone.
41:41
Speaker 1: You could double the taxes I pay, and it's not
41:43
Speaker 1: going to help that teacher in Queen's I promise you,
41:46
Speaker 1: under the current system, he may not be wrong. Under
41:48
Speaker 1: a different system, entirely wrong. And what's really funny about
41:53
Speaker 1: this is that they're all couching this. I have noticed,
41:55
Speaker 1: you know, Chamat and all these others are celebrating where
41:58
Speaker 1: their new idea is that the of them, fifty percent
42:01
Speaker 1: of Americans should pay zero income tax because they're like, well,
42:03
Speaker 1: they only make up three percent of total taxes, so
42:06
Speaker 1: they should pay nothing. First of all, that's a terrible idea.
42:10
Speaker 1: But second of all, because a I mean, it's a
42:13
Speaker 1: terrible idea. And let's just kind of go through why
42:15
Speaker 1: even though quote it only is three percent. Well, we've
42:18
Speaker 1: talked a lot about this. One of the reasons why
42:19
Speaker 1: having property tax or income tax or any of these
42:22
Speaker 1: things is that you actually literally have a stake in
42:24
Speaker 1: the system. Now, I agree that you know that the
42:26
Speaker 1: percentage that they're paying is not in any way semi
42:29
Speaker 1: meaningful let's say, to federal revenue, but in this case
42:32
Speaker 1: the problem. And by the way, at the same time,
42:35
Speaker 1: when saying that we should cut those three he's also like,
42:37
Speaker 1: you shouldn't tax me more so if we were going
42:39
Speaker 1: to make a trade, I'd be like, all right, fine,
42:41
Speaker 1: But that's not really what he's talking about. What they're
42:44
Speaker 1: really talking about is they're trying to effectively say that
42:47
Speaker 1: paying taxes of any kind for the poor and for
42:50
Speaker 1: the rich is not actually inherently good and or doing
42:54
Speaker 1: anything for society. This is a broad scale war and
42:57
Speaker 1: you've seen this now with all of bezos individual actions.
43:01
Speaker 1: So since he formed Amazon and exited as the CEO,
43:05
Speaker 1: what has he done? He moved to Miami? Why because
43:08
Speaker 1: he's from there? No, okay, it's because of the Seattle
43:11
Speaker 1: wealth tax. That's the reason. So he's like, well, I
43:14
Speaker 1: gotta claim to this. Also, what has he done in
43:16
Speaker 1: his post CEO age. He's injecting testosterone, He's marrying this
43:22
Speaker 1: woman Lauren Sanchez, partying at Saint Bart's on yachts which okay, million,
43:29
Speaker 1: and also giving one hundreds to Van Jones and like
43:32
Speaker 1: the Obama Foundation or whatever. It's like, dude, you are
43:35
Speaker 1: doing absolutely nothing. And the poll ethos is he just
43:41
Speaker 1: doesn't want to pay any more taxes, Like it really
43:43
Speaker 1: is that simple. When you look at the Washington Posts
43:46
Speaker 1: and their whole what do they call free markets or expression,
43:49
Speaker 1: it's like it's bullshit, Like look at what the stuff
43:52
Speaker 1: that they actually care about and some of their more
43:53
Speaker 1: recent hires. It's like libertarians who are talking about why
43:58
Speaker 1: privatizing Social Security would have been a good thing. I'm
44:00
Speaker 1: not even joking. That's like one of the more recent
44:02
Speaker 1: hit columns that they've had over there. That's all he
44:05
Speaker 1: cares about. He just doesn't want to pay any more taxes.
44:08
Speaker 1: We're some two hundred and twenty four billion dollars, and
44:11
Speaker 1: it's not it's a cynical move that they're adopting, where
44:14
Speaker 1: they're saying they're trying to tie their taxation status to
44:18
Speaker 1: that of the bottom fifty percent of Americans. Right, that's
44:21
Speaker 1: what this whole thing is actually about. And then notice
44:24
Speaker 1: he talks there about government control. You and I are
44:27
Speaker 1: not Nimby's. We probably don't even disagree about that Airbnb thing.
44:31
Speaker 1: But look at the slide of hand where he's like,
44:34
Speaker 1: taxing me will do nothing more for you, And it's like, yeah,
44:37
Speaker 1: maybe under the current system, but that's not really what
44:39
Speaker 1: we're talking about, is it.
44:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'll just check.
44:42
Speaker 4: It would cost about two hundred billion dollars to double
44:46
Speaker 4: every teacher's salary for a year, and he's worth way
44:49
Speaker 4: more than that.
44:49
Speaker 1: We're twenty fourth of whatever the Amazon market cap is
44:53
Speaker 1: as of today. No, you're absolutely right in terms of
44:56
Speaker 1: you know, teacher pay or salary. But part of the
44:59
Speaker 1: reason that the this really makes me angry is that
45:03
Speaker 1: what they fund by the way, he just moved to
45:05
Speaker 1: a state which wants to do what, eliminate property tax? Right?
45:08
Speaker 2: Oh?
45:08
Speaker 1: What what was that the thing that actually pays for
45:11
Speaker 1: the school? Oh right? Oh yeah. And by the way,
45:14
Speaker 1: how much does this house cost down there? Like one
45:16
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars some ridiculous sum of money. That's the
45:20
Speaker 1: whole scheme. They just don't want to pay anything. Because
45:22
Speaker 1: if you were to say, all right, Jeff, you don't
45:24
Speaker 1: have to pay any more income tax, We're just going
45:25
Speaker 1: to quadruple your probably, but oh, we can't do that,
45:28
Speaker 1: you know, we can't have any of that.
45:29
Speaker 4: And the reason they're right that there's an increasing amount
45:33
Speaker 4: of the tax burden that has gone to the very
45:36
Speaker 4: richest by percentage.
45:37
Speaker 3: The reason for that over the last forty to fifty years.
45:40
Speaker 4: Is that all of the wealth and income are flowing
45:43
Speaker 4: to the very top, so they're the ones that have it.
45:46
Speaker 4: So it sucks that three percent or whatever of the
45:50
Speaker 4: revenue comes from the bottom half. But why it sucks
45:53
Speaker 4: is that we want the bottom half to have more
45:56
Speaker 4: wealth and income.
45:57
Speaker 1: Also, it is a slide of hand in the sense
45:59
Speaker 1: of the bottom fifty making up three because what does
46:01
Speaker 1: to ignore Fika, right, everybody has to pay FIKA, especially
46:05
Speaker 1: at the lower level. In fact, you know FIKA is
46:07
Speaker 1: in terms of the percent chunk whenever you're bottom fifty,
46:10
Speaker 1: it's pretty high.
46:11
Speaker 3: Right because you stop paying because you stopped.
46:12
Speaker 1: Paying because of the cap. So of course everybody ignores
46:16
Speaker 1: all of that one. So in terms of the cap,
46:17
Speaker 1: they're paying percent wise and even dollar wise, like what
46:21
Speaker 1: a much more meaningfully amount than let's say, Amazon CEO
46:25
Speaker 1: or somebody else whose W two income might be I
46:28
Speaker 1: don't know, five hundred and six hundred thousand, not to
46:30
Speaker 1: even mention all the capital gains breaks that they get
46:32
Speaker 1: at the fifteen to twenty percent for where they are.
46:35
Speaker 1: And I think that, look, it's all just so naked
46:39
Speaker 1: and disgustingly cynical when you pair it with this next
46:41
Speaker 1: clip of him just like fawning over Donald Trump. Let's
46:46
Speaker 1: take a listen.
46:47
Speaker 10: When I last interviewed you, yeah, two years ago, President
46:51
Speaker 10: Trump had just won, he was not the president yet,
46:54
Speaker 10: and I'd asked you what you thought of you at
46:55
Speaker 10: the time, and you said that you thought that he
46:58
Speaker 10: had mellowed that he was. Yeah, and I'm curious now
47:02
Speaker 10: here we are. I still think that two years later, Yeah,
47:05
Speaker 10: we've had lots of uh with wars and tariffs and
47:09
Speaker 10: all sorts of things that have.
47:10
Speaker 11: Happened since saying what do you think I think he has.
47:13
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm comparing him to his first term, and
47:15
Speaker 11: I think he is a more mature, more disciplined version
47:19
Speaker 11: of himself than he was.
47:20
Speaker 1: In his first term.
47:22
Speaker 11: And you know, so he's again I've I've worked with
47:26
Speaker 11: all the presidents. I will work with all the presidents,
47:28
Speaker 11: you know, and I hope to do that going forward
47:31
Speaker 11: if they'll have me. But it's we we need our
47:35
Speaker 11: business leaders to provide input into the the administration, regardless
47:41
Speaker 11: of who the president is. I'm not on the side
47:45
Speaker 11: you know what this is. I'm on the side of
47:47
Speaker 11: America and I and that is so important, like and
47:52
Speaker 11: that's where business leaders should be. It's just I think no,
47:56
Speaker 11: I think no, I think we are, but we get
47:59
Speaker 11: perceived as being like, you know, partisan or whatever. Like
48:03
Speaker 11: I was helping Obama average chance I could. I was
48:06
Speaker 11: helping Biden every chance I could. I still call Obama
48:09
Speaker 11: for advice. He's a very smart guy. And you know,
48:13
Speaker 11: and by the way, people that are Trump has lots
48:17
Speaker 11: of good ideas and he has done a lot of
48:19
Speaker 11: has been right about a lot of things. You have
48:21
Speaker 11: to give him credit where credit is due.
48:24
Speaker 1: First of all, he was closer to Obama because he
48:26
Speaker 1: didn't want to pay more tax. You guys seeing the
48:28
Speaker 1: there's a through line here. One hundred million dollars to
48:32
Speaker 1: the Obama Foundation in twenty eighteen. What a bunch of
48:34
Speaker 1: money to Van Jones. What was like a genius Pride,
48:37
Speaker 1: the Bezos Genius Prize. It's just whatever happenings exactly. It
48:43
Speaker 1: was used to produce Instagram shorts by why Hassan Ker.
48:48
Speaker 4: It's a threat and you need dialogue with some biker
48:51
Speaker 4: he uses to talk to him.
48:52
Speaker 1: It's so foolish, the whole thing. I don't know, Ryan, it's,
48:56
Speaker 1: like you said, just the sheer mediocrity also of their
48:58
Speaker 1: thought process and then the goodness of what it's all about.
49:01
Speaker 1: And you know, he even said, I think we have
49:04
Speaker 1: this that line.
49:05
Speaker 4: About too much corporate wealthfare welfare.
49:07
Speaker 3: That's okay, let's take one.
49:10
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it.
49:10
Speaker 11: We have way too much corporate welfare, way too much
49:14
Speaker 11: corporate subsidies. We have there's way too much influence in
49:19
Speaker 11: politics from business. In some cases wealthy people who really
49:24
Speaker 11: focus on that.
49:25
Speaker 3: Unions.
49:26
Speaker 11: There's a bunch of people interfering in the political process,
49:29
Speaker 11: and if we can make that better, we should do
49:31
Speaker 11: that too.
49:32
Speaker 1: That's that would be another root cause you go.
49:34
Speaker 11: Back and figure out what is happening there.
49:38
Speaker 1: There's too much corporate welfare. Yeah, yeah, too much government influences.
49:41
Speaker 1: Yet unions what.
49:45
Speaker 5: What was that?
49:47
Speaker 1: There's so naked.
49:48
Speaker 3: How many corporate subsidies do as Amazon.
49:50
Speaker 1: Yet here's the other thing too, They're so big that
49:53
Speaker 1: they actually don't. It's like Tesla, remember with the ev credits,
49:56
Speaker 1: they didn't want them anymore because they're so big that
49:58
Speaker 1: they don't want driving industry. So in the beginning, sure
50:01
Speaker 1: they were happy to take them. But I also was
50:03
Speaker 1: just thinking about this too, whenever we talk about taxes
50:06
Speaker 1: and you know, all this, like I'm on pro America
50:08
Speaker 1: and more recently, one of the reasons why a lot
50:10
Speaker 1: of these billionaires have taken an explicit, even more libertarian
50:14
Speaker 1: turn is because what they want more than anything is
50:18
Speaker 1: to replace their entire workforce with humanoid robots and with AI.
50:22
Speaker 1: That's it. That's literally the entire project, because it will
50:26
Speaker 1: massively enrich them and they will ze they don't Yeah,
50:29
Speaker 1: that's what unions are a huge problem for them. But
50:31
Speaker 1: beyond even humans, human beings are a huge problem for Amazon,
50:35
Speaker 1: like for real, like they do not want guys in
50:37
Speaker 1: blue vests driving all across America. They want drones. And yeah,
50:41
Speaker 1: they either want drones or robots. And then in the factory,
50:44
Speaker 1: humanoid pickers are you know, based, are very inefficient because
50:47
Speaker 1: they have to go to the bathroom once in a while,
50:50
Speaker 1: and so they want all of it to be automated
50:53
Speaker 1: as much as humanly possible. They don't even like hide
50:56
Speaker 1: this stuff. They say it out loud. They celebrate firing
50:59
Speaker 1: people like they don't want more humans to actually work
51:02
Speaker 1: for them, and they want all of that wealth to
51:04
Speaker 1: accumulate into their pocket. That's why it's not an accident
51:07
Speaker 1: that he's sitting there in a space factory, because for them,
51:10
Speaker 1: the Earth is a plaything in and of itself. Going
51:13
Speaker 1: up to space with Katie Perry is like, you know,
51:16
Speaker 1: it's like the the top achievement of their life. It's
51:20
Speaker 1: no longer about what actually happens down here.
51:23
Speaker 4: And according to more Perfect Union, over the years, Amazon
51:25
Speaker 4: has received about fifteen billion dollars in government subsidies.
51:29
Speaker 3: So maybe the deal for Besis could be this.
51:31
Speaker 4: Okay, you become a multi deca or centa billionaire. At
51:38
Speaker 4: that point, you got to pay back the billions that
51:40
Speaker 4: you got in subsidies. You're worth two hundred and twenty
51:43
Speaker 4: five billion. You got fifteen billion in subsidies to help
51:47
Speaker 4: you get to becoming worth more than two hundred billion.
51:50
Speaker 4: Give us the fifteen billion back, right there you go,
51:53
Speaker 4: and then we'll give it to teachers, and we'll see
51:55
Speaker 4: if the teachers actually appreciate having more money or not.
51:59
Speaker 4: He thinks they won't. I think they will.
52:01
Speaker 1: Let's find out, right And yeah, I just want to
52:04
Speaker 1: give a little shout out there to all my friends
52:06
Speaker 1: in Florida who are still, you know, basically advocating for
52:10
Speaker 1: this boomer tax break of no property tax. This is
52:13
Speaker 1: who you're working for, Okay, So this is the reality
52:17
Speaker 1: about what you're actually trying to give a break to
52:19
Speaker 1: are people who are only using your state as a
52:22
Speaker 1: tax address in South Beach and making it impossible for
52:26
Speaker 1: any like any normal family or any of that who
52:29
Speaker 1: would ever or even the young college spring breaker. I
52:32
Speaker 1: hope your dad has five thousand bucks, because otherwise it's
52:35
Speaker 1: not happening for right, now because of this, not that
52:38
Speaker 1: they will care, because they'll be scammed by Ron DeSantis
52:41
Speaker 1: into thinking it's somehow a good thing for them. It also,
52:45
Speaker 1: let's pair this with this meta story. Put this up
52:47
Speaker 1: here on the screen. Meta as I was talking about
52:50
Speaker 1: human you know, human beings, very inconvenient for all of them.
52:53
Speaker 1: Meta lays off eight thousand employees as AI casualties Mount
52:58
Speaker 1: employees have signed petitions again it's being tracked by AI
53:01
Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure out who had let them go.
53:03
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, as the Silicon Valley tries True Giant tries
53:07
Speaker 1: to transform into an AI first company, so they said
53:12
Speaker 1: eight thousand of them, ten percent of the entire workforce
53:14
Speaker 1: would be laid off on by May twentieth. As Meta
53:17
Speaker 1: remade itself in the AI era, they learned that seven
53:21
Speaker 1: thousand employees that we got to stay will be reassigned
53:24
Speaker 1: ryan to new AI initiatives. And it seems that the
53:28
Speaker 1: emails were automated and just kind of went out willy nilly,
53:32
Speaker 1: and all of the others were sitting there trying to
53:34
Speaker 1: like update their own their like internal software or whatever,
53:38
Speaker 1: just to find out whether they've been canned or not.
53:40
Speaker 4: And so this new internal AI team. They're saying it's
53:44
Speaker 4: so crazy. Internally, they're calling it a draft getting so
53:49
Speaker 4: you get drafted to it's not up to you to
53:53
Speaker 4: go into this AI unit, which is, you know, in
53:59
Speaker 4: charge of basically getting rid of all of the employees.
54:03
Speaker 4: The dystopian deal that they're making with the people who
54:06
Speaker 4: get drafted into this AI unit to execute all of
54:09
Speaker 4: their colleagues is that they will not be laid off. Yes,
54:13
Speaker 4: of course they doesn't mean permanently, but they won't be
54:17
Speaker 4: the first to be laid off.
54:19
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Zuckerberg told his.
54:23
Speaker 4: Employees that he's very lucky to have such high IQ
54:28
Speaker 4: people there so that he can train his AI on
54:32
Speaker 4: their brains before getting rid of them. Let's roll this
54:35
Speaker 4: leaked to audio. I think it was more Perfect Union
54:37
Speaker 4: that got this. Again, credit credit to those guys. They're
54:40
Speaker 4: killing it. So let's listen to Zuckerberg talking to his
54:44
Speaker 4: employees or soon to be former employees.
54:46
Speaker 12: We're in a phase where basically the AI models learn
54:51
Speaker 12: from having really from watching really smart people do things,
54:55
Speaker 12: and if you're trying to get it to be able
54:56
Speaker 12: to be able to do certain capabilities, having it be
55:00
Speaker 12: able to observe really smart people doing those things is
55:04
Speaker 12: very important. So there are a few examples of where
55:07
Speaker 12: we're trying to do this across the company because one
55:11
Speaker 12: basic insight and hypothesis that we have is that a
55:15
Speaker 12: lot of data generation across the field is done by
55:18
Speaker 12: these contract companies. And Alex knows a bunch about this
55:21
Speaker 12: because you ran one before coming here. But in general,
55:25
Speaker 12: the average intelligence of the people who are at this
55:28
Speaker 12: company is significantly higher than the average set of people
55:32
Speaker 12: that you can get to do tasks if you're working
55:34
Speaker 12: through the contract through these contractors. So if we're trying
55:38
Speaker 12: to teach the models coding, for example, then having people
55:42
Speaker 12: internally build tools or solve tasks that help teach the
55:48
Speaker 12: model how to code, we think is going to dramatically
55:51
Speaker 12: increase our model's coding ability faster than what others in
55:54
Speaker 12: the industry have the capability to do. Who don't have
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Speaker 12: thousands and thousands of extremely strong engineers at their coming.
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Speaker 4: All right, Meanwhile, there's an internal petition employees are circulating
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Speaker 4: against this.
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? This is who you work for? Now.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying I don't support any of that,
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Speaker 1: but like gods, this is what you're trying to like,
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Speaker 1: it's coming, he says it out loud. I'm gonna keep
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Speaker 1: my best employees so the AI can learn from them,
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Speaker 1: and then eventually, why do we even need you anymore?
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Speaker 1: So if you stay there, that's basically what you're working for.
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Speaker 1: I hope the interim dollars are worth it, genuinely, I do,
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Speaker 1: because you're not. You're gonna need the money because I
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Speaker 1: hope it continues to compound forever, because you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: have a job anymore.
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Speaker 4: But they said one person had been there for less
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Speaker 4: than a month that got laid off and then got
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Speaker 4: sixteen weeks of severn so at least all right, okay,
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Speaker 4: I mean.
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Speaker 3: It's not two weeks of work, yeah paid.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, two weeks of work to get laid off or
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Speaker 1: how long.
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Speaker 3: A sixteen weight I'm trying to do four months? Almost
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Speaker 3: four months?
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Speaker 1: Okay, not horrible, It's not horrible at all all. The problem, though,
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Speaker 1: is that every other type of job they were going
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Speaker 1: to get is also probably gonna be.
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Speaker 3: Laid off, and or that person is not doing well.
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Speaker 1: Learn to code, actually no crystals is learned to learn
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Speaker 1: to nurse, learn to nurse.
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Speaker 3: There you go there, you go.
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Speaker 7: Kah m hm