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Best of Chuck & Buck 4-28 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 4: The action never stopped? Are you writing this down?
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  Speaker 1: can check us out there as well. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to see what we look like while we talk, you
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  Speaker 1: can do that. I did wear a fancy sweater today,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, feel free to say some nice things
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just actually zooming the camera in sure
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  Speaker 7: because it was it was angled rig over here and
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  Speaker 7: you were on the very side, and I was like,
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  Speaker 7: wait a minute, he's wearing a really nice sweater.
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  Speaker 5: We got to center him.
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  Speaker 1: I got a very well dressed down but I decided
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  Speaker 1: with the cameras.
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  Speaker 5: And everything, you looks snazzy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ashley, Ryan, I can't see. All I can see
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  Speaker 1: is your head.
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  Speaker 5: That's fair. Yeah, they've got a lot of computers between us.
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  Speaker 1: For all I know. You're just wearing a barrel with
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  Speaker 1: suspenders on it.
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  Speaker 5: I am yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you're sitting down, so probably not.
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  Speaker 5: It would have been hard to sit with a barrel.
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  Speaker 1: I see, it would have been difficult.
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  Speaker 5: I cut it in half though.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you're not sitting at all, unless you're just standing sady,
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  Speaker 1: squatting there, squatty inside a barrel with suspenders over your shoulder.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of monkeys in here too, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? Well you got to count those monkeys
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  Speaker 1: and a barrel.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Good morning, Ashley and Chuck properly attired for you
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  Speaker 1: today on both radio and television cameras, and so we
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  Speaker 1: welcome you to our four hour radio extravagance. It will
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  Speaker 1: take you till ten o'clock. Still know Bucky Jacobson. He
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  Speaker 1: is on extended to medical leave. And so if you're
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  Speaker 1: wondering why there is a show called Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 1: in the Mornings that only has Chuck and Ashley on it, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a good explanation for you. Maybe just moved here
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  Speaker 1: from you know, tuk tuk.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe yeah, maybe you did, because that rhymes with Chuck
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  Speaker 7: and Buck right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, that's the explanation. We also have a
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  Speaker 1: new Greg Bells back in studio, and do have this
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  Speaker 1: at your household? By the way where because I got
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  Speaker 1: to get the feeling that five Iron has a pretty
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  Speaker 1: strong opinion about how things are supposed to be done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: does he move stuff around like the trash can for
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  Speaker 1: goodness sake? Because I don't care where the trash can is,
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  Speaker 1: but I would like for it to just be in
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  Speaker 1: the same spot every day. And so somebody moved the
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  Speaker 1: trash can underneath the table here broadcasting studio from over
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  Speaker 1: in the corner. I'm like, Okay, if that's the new spot,
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  Speaker 1: I can go with it. But now it's been moved
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  Speaker 1: back to the corner. So I went to throw something
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  Speaker 1: away today and its new spot and now it's back
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  Speaker 1: in its old spot, and so I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: just somebody's tinkering. I don't know if it's I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if we got a new person in studio, but
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  Speaker 1: can we just I don't care where it goes, but
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  Speaker 1: it just there's a place for it to go and
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  Speaker 1: it stays there.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, that's absolutely fair.
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  Speaker 7: If if five Iron started moving our trash can around
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  Speaker 7: the kitchen, I'd get real annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: Unicorn does it on a minute by minute basis, No,
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  Speaker 1: wherever she is, whatever's can, she slides it over to
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  Speaker 1: where she is, and then she leaves it there.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I'd go insane, would you?
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  Speaker 7: I would see, That's what I mean, And because that
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  Speaker 7: makes me feel better because I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: And yet I'm sitting here thinking, well, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: always say don't sweat the little stuff, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of big stuff, so you know, you just kind
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  Speaker 1: of let the little stuff go. And so that's one
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  Speaker 1: that I've chosen to let go. But it does drive
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  Speaker 1: me crazy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like my cat will sit on our trash can
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  Speaker 7: and then I'm like, he's back on the trash can again,
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  Speaker 7: so I have to pick him up to put trash away,
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  Speaker 7: or I used to leave the trash on the counter
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  Speaker 7: for a minute and wait for him to get up,
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  Speaker 7: which he eventually will do. But even that annoys because
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  Speaker 7: you'll pick him up and take him off the trash can,
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  Speaker 7: and then you throw away what you need and then
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  Speaker 7: two seconds later he's back on the trash can. And
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  Speaker 7: it's usually when I'm cleaning, so I'm going back and
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  Speaker 7: forth to the trash can all the time while I'm
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  Speaker 7: cleaning up the kitchen area, and that alone annoys me enough.
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  Speaker 7: But there's two kinds of garbage cans that are that
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  Speaker 7: go in a kitchen, right.
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  Speaker 5: There's the one that goes under the sink.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's the one that's like the metal kind
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  Speaker 7: with a lid that's stays out in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Neither of those need to be moved anywhere besides the
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  Speaker 7: one place they're meant to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that you know, you got
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  Speaker 1: something in your hands and you're like, hey, I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: not to drip this on the floor or whatever the
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  Speaker 1: case may be. I need it to be where I
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  Speaker 1: think it is, that's right, but always being moved, So
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  Speaker 1: I got to deal with it at home, But I
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  Speaker 1: deal with an unstable person at home. Well, I don't problem.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with it at work, and
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  Speaker 1: I would like to think I'm not working with unstable people.
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  Speaker 1: But if you are unstable, Greg Bell, if it's you,
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  Speaker 1: then I am going to call you out. Well we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this.
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  Speaker 7: Or Unicorn's coming in in are off time and moving
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  Speaker 7: the trash can for you, just to make it feel
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  Speaker 7: like you're at home.
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  Speaker 1: No, trust me, she never leaves the house.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well then we're at least you know
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  Speaker 5: it's probably Greg.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, welcome into the radio show. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different things to discuss today. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to what's on tap here in a moment, but I
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  Speaker 1: do believe we start with Major League Baseball. The Mariners
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  Speaker 1: last night saw their four game winning streak snapped in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: They were absolutely thumped by the Minnesota Twins, the final
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  Speaker 1: score being eleven to four. I'm not too worried about
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  Speaker 1: the result. There are certain nights that you show up
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  Speaker 1: and it's just not there, and it kind of felt
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  Speaker 1: like one of those nights last night. It was dreary,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm I'm imagining you're in the midst of a
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  Speaker 1: road trip. You just came from Saint Louis, you go
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  Speaker 1: to Minneapolis. You were already thinking what kind of weather.
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  Speaker 1: You sat around all day believing that it was going
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  Speaker 1: to get rained out. The forecast was for rain, and
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  Speaker 1: then it did rain. It rained the entire game, and
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  Speaker 1: so it was just dreary. There were about one hundred
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  Speaker 1: people in the crowd, it felt like, and it just
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  Speaker 1: it felt like both teams were having difficulty getting into it.
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  Speaker 1: But the Mariners provided a couple of breaks for the Twins,
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  Speaker 1: and so they got off to the early start. And
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  Speaker 1: then Luis Castillo just continues not to have it and
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  Speaker 1: it got out of control. I felt like we almost
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  Speaker 1: got back into the game, but it was just the
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  Speaker 1: performance was as dreary as the evening. I'm not surprised
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  Speaker 1: that they lost occurred last night, and I still fully
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  Speaker 1: expect to win this series and to leave Minnesota out
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  Speaker 1: of the hole and back to five hundred. But last
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  Speaker 1: night was just not the night for the Mariners.
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  Speaker 5: No, it really wasn't.
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  Speaker 7: It did feel like it was a game that they
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  Speaker 7: played because they had to, because they were like, we
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  Speaker 7: have to do this because we can't do a doubleheader
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  Speaker 7: and we can't make it up sometimes, so we're just
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  Speaker 7: going to power through and play this game.
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  Speaker 5: That's what it felt like. And it kind of felt
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  Speaker 5: like everyone.
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  Speaker 7: Was, at least on the marritors, was kind of just
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  Speaker 7: going through the motions like all right.
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  Speaker 1: They would have, but they tried to avoid.
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  Speaker 7: Right, they tried Yeah, And it felt like they were
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  Speaker 7: really trying to avoid it in this situation, and it
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  Speaker 7: felt like the mirrors were Yeah, it was just like, okay,
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  Speaker 7: well we got to play this game, so let's go
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  Speaker 7: out and play this game and get it done.
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  Speaker 5: And that's kind of how it felt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a bit gross. It was
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  Speaker 1: kind of a gross watch and then it was a
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  Speaker 1: gross performance, and you know there was this feeling like
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want to be I mean even the
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  Speaker 1: Julio drop and center field yah, yeah, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: bad route to the ball that you could tell that
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  Speaker 1: somebody from the Dominican is not used to going back
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  Speaker 1: to the center field wall, who plays at home with
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  Speaker 1: a roof over it, is not used to going back
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  Speaker 1: to the center field wall with driving rain in his eyes.
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  Speaker 1: He's trying to catch out high fly ball and trying
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  Speaker 1: to feel where a wall is that he's not used
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  Speaker 1: to playing that track, that field and with rain coming
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  Speaker 1: down from the skies right into his face, and he
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  Speaker 1: misplayed it and they gave it a triple could have
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  Speaker 1: been an error, and it opened up the floodgates for
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  Speaker 1: a big inning. But that does not recuse Luis Castillo
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  Speaker 1: at all. He is just a struggling pitcher right now.
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  Speaker 1: His era climbed to six three five I think last night,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even higher than that. I'm doing that for memory
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  Speaker 1: from what I saw last night, but six and a half.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the six and a half range. And we
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  Speaker 1: are now over a month into the Major League Baseball season.
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  Speaker 1: So it's looking less like a short sample and looking
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  Speaker 1: more like Luis Castillo's really in a funk. Now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: maybe I give him a little bit of you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: you're playing games in cold weather, and you know, Julio
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  Speaker 1: has admitted not liking playing baseball in cold weather, and
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  Speaker 1: he he is a second half guy, and Luis Castillo
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  Speaker 1: also Latino maybe just doesn't like playing in rain and
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't like playing in cold and will straighten things
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  Speaker 1: out as the season goes along. But he's just he
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't look like a good picture right now. He
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  Speaker 1: just does not look like the rock at this point.
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  Speaker 5: No, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: He does.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't had a lot of you know, the fist
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  Speaker 7: in the air moments. And I bringing up the rain though.
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  Speaker 7: It is interesting because if you remember last year, we
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  Speaker 7: struggled in every game where there was a rain issue,
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  Speaker 7: where it was either there was a rain delay or
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  Speaker 7: there was rain all day and then maybe the game
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  Speaker 7: was gonna be postponed or it was postponed. We didn't
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  Speaker 7: do well in any of those games. True, So maybe
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  Speaker 7: that's maybe we just need to know that if it rains,
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  Speaker 7: we're gonna lose.
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  Speaker 5: Just move ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if that is the case. I think we'd like
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  Speaker 1: to get our arms around it. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of these forty degree rainy games
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  Speaker 1: that we play in, but nonetheless I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: just kick them. I would rather not give them away.
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  Speaker 1: But certainly it is. It's a factor. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to use it as an excuse, but I am going
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  Speaker 1: to recognize it as a factor. But that hasn't affected
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  Speaker 1: Castillo in every start. And frankly, what I see from
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  Speaker 1: the veteran pitcher on this team who everybody adores in
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  Speaker 1: that clubhouse, and we as Mariner fans, like Luis Castillo,
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  Speaker 1: and we like nothing better than to see him right
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  Speaker 1: his ship. We've seen him be excellent so many times.
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  Speaker 1: But this is somebody that right now is working completely
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  Speaker 1: on the fringes of the strike zone. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see the number. I'm sure it is somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I could have looked that up, but I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see just the percentage of strikes he's actually throwing,
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  Speaker 1: because he's going deep into counts all game long to
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  Speaker 1: nearly every hitter, and it's because I'm trying to work
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  Speaker 1: outside of the strike zone I'm trying to get you
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  Speaker 1: to chase my fastball above the zone. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: get you know. He's that he's always had that nasty,
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  Speaker 1: wicked movement on his two seamer that just doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: look natural, that it fades away from the left hander
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  Speaker 1: and comes in on a right hander. And yet he's
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  Speaker 1: starting that pitch outside and because he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: work the middle of the plate, he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: risk working the middle of the plate. And then hitters
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  Speaker 1: are disciplined enough and have good enough scouting reports that
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  Speaker 1: they now know if it's a fastball up, he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to go outside the zone. If he's going to go
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  Speaker 1: two seamer away, he's trying to go outside the zone.
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  Speaker 1: And his slider never goes into the zone. His slider
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  Speaker 1: is always breaking in on the left hander and just
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  Speaker 1: missing the strike zone, or it's having to come across
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  Speaker 1: the heart of the plate, which he tries to avoid.
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  Speaker 1: And so what I just see somebody right now is
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  Speaker 1: just knows that he doesn't have good stuff, and actually,
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  Speaker 1: in a strange way, he is commanding it. I think
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  Speaker 1: he is throwing it where he wants to throw it.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to live on the fringe is, but I
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  Speaker 1: think all the hitters know that's what he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: do to us. They're laying off all of those nasty
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  Speaker 1: pitches that aren't going to hit the strike zone, and
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  Speaker 1: it just forces Luis deep into counts. He's pitching almost
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  Speaker 1: twenty five pitches every single inning. He's having to give
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  Speaker 1: in because he's loaded the bases because guys won't chase
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  Speaker 1: stuff out of the strike zone, and then he has
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  Speaker 1: to give in because he doesn't have any place to
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  Speaker 1: put them, and then they hammer the ball like Cody
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  Speaker 1: Clemens did last night. I mean, Cody Clemens. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is very league. This is the guy that's made
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  Speaker 1: a nice little Major league career for himself against all odds.
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  Speaker 1: But this isn't somebody that is supposed to hit a
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  Speaker 1: three run homer against you on a rainy night with
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  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo on the mound and kind of knocks the
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  Speaker 1: game out of range. But that's where Castillo is right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe he doesn't have to fix
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  Speaker 1: Maybe because they're paying him so much money and they
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  Speaker 1: have so much respect for him as a veteran that
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  Speaker 1: his job is safe well into the summer. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but we've discussed this before. I think he made a
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  Speaker 1: promo out of it a couple of weeks ago with
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  Speaker 1: Away Emerson's pitching. My belief that Bryce Miller wants healthy,
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  Speaker 1: is certainly one of our best five starting pitchers. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't think there's any doubt that Luis Castillo is
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  Speaker 1: not one of our best five starting pitchers right now.
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  Speaker 1: And the way Kate Anderson's lighting up the miners, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure he's one of our best six starting pitchers
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  Speaker 1: right now. And so it's gonna be a difficult decision
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  Speaker 1: when the time comes that Bryce is ready to come
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  Speaker 1: back from the injury list, what you do to shake
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  Speaker 1: up this starting rotation. But I will say this, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to do. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: surprised by anything. But what I do know for a
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  Speaker 1: fact is he has not earned a spot in the
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  Speaker 1: starting rotation in twenty twenty six. He is clearly our
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  Speaker 1: worst starting pitcher right now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And I would like
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  Speaker 7: to see them I mean, because at this point, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know how high his trade value would be either,
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  Speaker 7: because he's not I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think he has any Yeah, you have to trade
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  Speaker 1: for another bad play yeah, player who's playing bad that
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  Speaker 1: makes a lot of money.
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  Speaker 5: Which we don't Yeah, which we don't need to do.
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  Speaker 7: So I think, I mean, I would like to see
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  Speaker 7: them try to put him in the bullpen and see
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  Speaker 7: what happens.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe he I.
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  Speaker 7: Mean, he had some He came out of the bullpen
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  Speaker 7: during the playoffs last year, didn't he, And and that
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  Speaker 7: was good, and yeah, that was the playoffs. But he
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  Speaker 7: was also pitching better last year. But I'd like to
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  Speaker 7: see that and see if that makes a difference in
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  Speaker 7: what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's I see a world where that could be really effective.
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  Speaker 1: I see a world where if you did it the
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  Speaker 1: right way and you used examples like John Smoltz from
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the past and Dennis Eckersley and other guys who were
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers who you know, in their mid thirties made
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: a transition to the bullpen and ended up going on
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: to have tremendous careers or at least a tremendous stretch.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Eckersley had a tremendous career, had a Hall of Fame
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: career as a reliever. Smoltz had a couple of great
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: seasons as a closer, even though to this day he
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: won't be shy about telling you he wish he would
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: have never done it. So there's this pride thing about
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: being a starter. It feels like a demotion. It feels
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: like a slap in the face, even if you do
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: have the best interest of the team at heart and
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: maybe even the player at heart. I could see him
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: still thriving in that role where he didn't have to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: worry about managing six innings of work and could just
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: go all out for an inning or two. But I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: might be thinking of Luis Castillo prior to this year.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: His stuff's just off right now. But I could see that,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: and I think there's a way to pitch it to him.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: But and you could, and you never have enough good
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: bullpen arms. I don't know if they'll go there, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll like it, and so it's
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: going to be a tricky situation that are going to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: have to manage. But one thing's very clear, he is
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: off his game right now. We are two games under
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: five hundred, and one of the big reasons that we're
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: still under five hundred is because every fifth day Luis
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Castillo can't get people out.
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it is rough to watch because, as you mentioned,
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: we all like him when he's on, he is on,
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: and he's awesome, and he's very well liked in the clubhouse.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: And that's why I think, Yeah, trying to move him
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: to the bullpen, I don't. I mean, he seems like
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: a team guy, you know, he didn't. He was happy
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: for Logan when Logan got the opening day start a
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: couple two seasons ago over him, because he'd had it
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: before that. And I would like to see what could
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: come of that having him in the bullpen. I mean,
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: he could even potentially be a long reliever, which I
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: think we could use.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I think that would be even more insulting. Oh you think, yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: if you pitched him a high leverage role that he
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: could eventually move into, not like immediately, but eventually we'll
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: move into. But it might have to happen in the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: off season in order for him to really put his
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: arms around it. I mean, we do have him under
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: contract for another year after this, so we'll see. We'll
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: see how they go with it. I mean, they might
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: just be as patient as they possibly can. I saw
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: your friend Alex tweet out, maybe it's Phantom. I l time.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That's always a possibility where you just kind of concoct
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: an injury. I mean, everybody feels a little banged up
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball one month into the season, so
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: maybe you buy some time there to try to fix
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: them the right way. We'll see how they go about it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But as I've mentioned many times before, this is about
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: winning the World Series and I'm not going to worry
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: about hurting feelings of veterans who just aren't getting the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: job done. And the same thing goes with JP Crawford,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: which that decision might have to come later down the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: line as well. So that's just where I am with it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: We don't have to make the decision today, but it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: coming soon. Bryce is almost ready to make his return,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to mess with Bryce Miller either.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: He was our best picture at the U into the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: last year when he was actually healthy.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we need him.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Well, we've got a lot of other things to discuss
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: about that game last night. We'll get into a little
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: bit of it with Mariners morning after coming up at
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. But let's find out what
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: else is on.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Tap, what's on TEP what's on tep so.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Eleven to four was the final score last night in
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the rains of Minneapolis. They are not expecting bad weather
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: tonight or tomorrow, so the rest of the series should
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: be played on a dry field. No complaints there. The
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Mariners are fourteen and sixteen. The Twins snapped a five
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: game losing streak or was it a six again? Trying
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to do that from memory. I looked it up yesterday.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: They had a losing streak, but that got snapped last night,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and they are throwing their best pitcher tonight Joe Ryan
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: versus Logan Gilbert, so a heck of a pitching matchup tonight.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs, the Orlando Magic won over the Detroit Pistons
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: last night, ninety four to eighty eight. Significant because US,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the number one seed in the Eastern Conference, is now
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just one loss away from being eliminated in the first
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: round by Orlando and the Magic. We'll have three chances
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to get the job done. Ugly finish last night, Orlando
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: was trying to give the game away. My goodness, the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: shot selection down the stretch was horrific by Orlando, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: even though they gave Detroit a thousand opportunities. It felt
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: like to win that game. Detroit shot so horribly from
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the field, their offense was so bad down the stretch.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They couldn't pull off the win. It really felt like
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: they were feeling the pressure. It really felt like a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: choke job last night. Now, I know it's on the road,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't like to use the C word. I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: think we over use it in sports. But Orlando just
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: kept giving them chance after chance, and Detroit could not
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: make a shot and they were usually falling short with
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: their shots, which suggests they were gripping a little bit
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: down the stretch. They're in trouble, and it just shows you.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: It's something that I do subscribe to. It's just the theory,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but I subscribe to it. You don't just get ushered
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just because he had a good regular season. The playoffs
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: are completely different ballgame. You just don't get ushered to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the finals. You usually have to show that you're good
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and then suffer a few lumps in the postseason before
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you get over the hump and actually make it to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the NBA finals. We might see that from San Antonio
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: before the playoffs come to an end, but I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we're seeing it from Detroit right now Denver one, so
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: they avoided elimination against Minnesota. They won by twelve last night,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but the Timber will still have a three to two
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: series lead and OKSE advanced in just four games against
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns Philadelphia at Boston tonight, Atlanta at New York,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Portland at San Antonio. The Celtics and Spurs can clinch
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup playoffs. Pittsburgh three two winners over Philadelphia last night,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: so Philadelphia still they can't close out Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh remains alive. Meanwhile,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Vegas needed overtime to defeat Utah, Otherwise that series might
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: have gotten away from the Knights, but they do win
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in overtime and they even the series at two apiece.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Boston at Buffalo tonight, Minnesota at Dallas, and Anaheim at Edmonton.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and Anaheim can clinch their series. Anaheim wins over
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Edmonton and that really throws a wrench into the postseason.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Dogs After Dark's gonna be Saturday this week, so the
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: spring game for you. Dubcam Cleveland will join us today
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to talk some NFL Draft and also some Husky football
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. And of course we are still in
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: draft mode Draft hangover this week the drafter math, if
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you will. Greg Bell's going to join us for one
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: last time to talk draft at seven oh five and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: then we'll give him some time off. And Mike Rabel,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of course, his family's fixed. He left day number three
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of the draft and so yeah, everything's fine. He's back
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: at work on Monday, so just one day of counseling.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Had to miss the draft for that. Y's for sure
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a lot apparently bought some nice, you know, linen items
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: at the store and everything's fixed. So good for the crunch. Yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Mariner's Morning After Next Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: kJ RFM.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: That gout move and that's the thing is like, you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: these guys, it is a business.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That ball punished dot to lightfield. Cal Rawley hats homeward
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and back to back games as this finds the gates
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: out there number seven if you didn't know, for cal
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Rawleigh angin Aaron Mariner's TV last night from Minneapolis. So
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: one of the rare highlights of an eleven to four loss.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Cal Raley does look like he's blocked back in, looks
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like he's passed all of his early season.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Losy but how was the dump guy there again?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he's just following him.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: But like, how is he in the place where the
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: home run lands? Again?
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: That's why I can't figure out something weird.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: That guy's got the sports almanac from twenty twenty six,
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: That's what it is. Yeah, because one, how can you
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: afford to go to all of these games?
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: And two? How are you always in the place where
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: he just ends up hitting a home run?
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's omnipotent.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Do you consider that I had not until this moment?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, wouldn't that be crazy? Wouldn't that seem like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a waste of Jesus's time if he had come back
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to Earth and he just decided, you know, instead of
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: saving human beings from the direction we're all heading. Yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna follow Dumper around and.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to catch all his home run balls.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get I'm gonna make really bad looking T shirts,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna try. I love getting on television.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Actually would actually be fitting, it'd be fitting.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I think somebody needs to have a meeting with Jesus.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: All right, good morning, it's the an o'clock hour, Chuck
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and Ashley with you coming up a little later, ABC's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of the MS Plus we will visit with Greg Bell
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: once again. But first let's get to your headlines. They
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• 25:12
  Speaker 1: do lose to the Twins last night by a final
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: score of eleven to four, snaps their four game losing
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: ors four game winning streak, snaps a Twins losing streak
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to even things up same time tonight supposed
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to be good weather tonight in Minneapolis, or at least
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: not bad weather. Joe Ryan will pitch for the Twins
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and Logan Gilbert will pitch for the Mariners, so we
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: are facing the best guy that they have to offer
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to try to even up this series. I still think
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that by the end of this Minnesota series we'll be
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: back to five hundred, but we shall see. It was
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: an ugly performance certainly last night. Rest of your headlines.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs last night, the Orlando Magic are now within
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a game of knocking off a one seed. I don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: think the Detroit is your typical one young team. Great
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: regular season, but maybe aren't quite ready for playoff basketball.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They certainly struggled offensively last night, but the Magic could
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: put them on the brink with their ninety four to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: eighty eight win. Of course, their second best player, Wagner,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: got hurt last night, so maybe that impacts the Magic
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: going forward. But Paolo and the Magic one went away
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: from a historical upset of a one seed in the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference first round. Denver avoided the embarrassment of losing
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: in five to an underdog in Minnesota. They won last
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: night one twenty five to one thirteen, but the Joker
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and Company still have work to do. Okse had no
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: problem with the Phoenix Suns. They advanced in four straight
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: games in the NBA. Tonight Philly at Boston, Atlanta at
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: New York, Portland at San Antonio. The Spurs and Celtics
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: have a chance to wrap up their series with wins.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Playoffs. Pittsburgh won over Philadelphia three to two
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: last night, so they stay alive. Flyers still up three
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: games to two in that series. Las Vegas was in
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: danger of falling to Utah three to one. They would
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: have fallen behind in the series, but they end up
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: winning in overtime, so the favored Knights I have even
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that series at two games apiece. Buffalo can wrap up
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: their series with Boston tonight at home. Minnesota and Dallas
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: are even up. They play tonight, and Anaheim could really
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: shake up the Stanley Cup playoffs with a win tonight
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and knocking Edmonton and Connor McDavid out of the playoffs.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Dogs after Dark will be Friday, Friday. I knew it
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: was the first. I just assumed it was Saturday because
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in the past that's always been on Saturday. But yes,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Jed did change that a couple of years ago, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: so it's this Friday. So sorry for that mistake in
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the first hour. We'll talk to Cam Cleland about it
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: at nine o'clock today, and we are, of course all
• 27:48
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• 27:52
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• 27:56
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• 28:39
  Speaker 5: but our boss rich. Yeah, be very happy I read this.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Greg.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: How are you doing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I'm okay, Yeah, nearly is post holidays, you are?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, there's no layoff here. I mean
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you got rookie mini camp like next week, and then
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you've got schedule in like two weeks, so you don't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: get any time off. Sorry to'll tell you about this.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: We're in the contrived portion of the NFL off season,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: just keeping itself in the news. Yeah, the schedule release
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: has become later and later every year too.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Do we know anything more other than the opener about
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the schedule. I mean we obviously know the opponents and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: where you'll play. Those opponents this year, And now we
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: know the home openers is going to a the home
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: opener season opener is going to be on a Wednesday,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: which they've adjusted. But that's all we know at this point, correct.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Right, Everything else is the position. There are a lot
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: of people who think the Chicago Bears are going to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: be the September ninth, Wednesday Night NFO opener opponent. The
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Seahawks still could do two international games. They haven't announced
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Mexico City the opponent for a home game for the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers down there, and the Washington Commanders have
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a home game with the opponents still be determined with
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: in London, and the Hawks are scheduled to play at
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: the Commanders this year, So there's still that chance they
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: have been expecting in a national game this year. Doctor
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl champions means that might raise the chance, but
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: everything else, all the other internationals games have been set
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: with two teams at least announced their or all right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll find out May twelfth, thirteenth, or fourteenth. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: don't know why they don't pin down a date, but
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: they never do. But in a couple of weeks we'll
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: know the schedule and we'll add that to overreact to.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So let's talk running backs. Obviously, with the first pick
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: they took Jadarian Price, and then yesterday they decided to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: release Cam Akers, and so as the running back room
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: sits today, it's a varied group. There's no question about it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Is this the group though, or do you think that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: they are not done tinkering.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I think they'll still add a veteran. They've had Naji
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Harrison for a free agent visit. I'll be waiting to
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: see how his achilles here from September, his recovery from
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: that progresses into the late spring and summer. But it
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: bears repeating then, no matter even if they did sign
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: a veteran, the only running back of the seven well
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: now six, so that they cut Cam Akers on the roster,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: the only one who's signed beyond twenty twenty six is
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: now their new draft pick, which is why, to me,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: was if not imperative, pretty important. They drafted one that
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: they could project two in three years where he could
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: be on the roster. So even the supposed last year's
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: job sharing, the supposed heir to Kenneth Walker, Zach Sharboney
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: his rookie contract ends this year as well, and again,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: we don't know, and they still don't know the Seahawks win,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Sharbonnay will come back from that reconstructive knee surgery. The
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: injury had in January could be in the middle of
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: the season. So that's why it became more of an
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: import to bring in a running back in the draft
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: so you could have him for more than one year.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: That's part of the reason why they did it. We
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: talked about how the draft board fell and they were
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: trying to trade down and still get priced in the
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: second round. They weren't able to do that, but they've
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: targeted running back as the position to get not just
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: because Walker left, but because they have nothing in the
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: cupboard beyond this year.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: In terms of the secondary. Obviously you lose a Bryant
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and you lose a Woolen, but you've got Ocatta who
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: proved he can do an expanded role at safety and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: you've brought him back. You've have Pritchett there. I've heard
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: things about Finley sort of in the background that might
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: play a significant role. So as they view it as
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: far as you can tell, I mean, are Bud Clark
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and Julia Neil, Is there an expectation they're going to
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: play a lot, or is do the veterans right now
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: outrank them on the depth chart.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Well, you didn't mention that Rodney Thomas, who came from Indianapolis,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: was the starting center for starting safety for them a
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: couple of years ago, and the coaches are really talking
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: him up. To see how coaches loved his tape. They
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: were pretty happy to get him in free agency on
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: a relatively low cost deal, as John Schneider tends to
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: do in free agency. But he's going to get a
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: run and to see where he might fit. Schnyder, Bud
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Clark will get a chance to be a part of
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: the rotation, and your second round pick should have some impact,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: if not be a starter. It does show that tyle
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Cott is not just going to be handed the job
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: just because he started eleven games last year. Most of
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: them was Julian Love was injured, and he obviously played
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: really well by the end of the season compared to
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: the start when they put him more in the back
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: of the end of the safe back of the defense role,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: but more the better for McDonald. He made the point,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: you can't have enough cornerbacks. After they drafted Julian Neal,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: he said well, you can never have enough cornerbacks, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that's because he likes to use him in so many
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: different ways slot blitzing, zone man press, run support. Julian
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Neil he's was a safety at Fresno State before he
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: transferred to Arkansas became a cornerback and he tackles like
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: a safety, so he's a cornerback and run support, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald can find places for that. So it's in
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: a way, it's almost like a hockey line change in
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the secondary. That's what Mike McDonald hopes to have with
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: interior pieces moving around. Now, Witherspoon's a fixture there and
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Julian loves a fixture there, of course. But we saw
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: it last year with Woolen and Job alternating on one
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: side at the corner, and that may be where they're
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: headed again, whether it's Job and Neil, whether it's Job
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: and Pritchett. They want to compete over at who's the
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: extra cornerback might be, But he doesn't McDonald doesn't seem
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: willing to just have here's my two starting corners and
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: let's go. Yeah, most of the time they were in
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: nicol as their base, and a lot of time they
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: were in dime with six back should becount even worry
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: as a wildcard all over the place.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Creig Mello is with us our Seahawks insider. We are
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: in the drafter math, the aftermath of the NFL Draft,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: but certainly a lot of things to still chop up
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and discuss with our Seahawks inside. If you want to
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• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Greg's coverage of the NFL Draft and beyond. You know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I've heard you say this numerous times on your show
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: since you've been back on the air and over the years,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: really about how the draft is not just for I mean,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it's not for immediate impact. Sometimes it does work that way,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: but when you draft, you're thinking of the future, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: more often than not, you're thinking about how guys are
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: going to fit in the mix two three years down
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the road now, Zabel and Emon Worri certainly were home
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: runs because they were instant impact and extraordinary at that,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: But as you look back to twenty twenty five's class.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: We didn't see a lot from Elijah Royal. I think
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: we thought we'd see more. Jalen Millroe just got such
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a look in some sort of
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: specialty role that he sort of just disappeared from the plans.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Riley Mills didn't show up, but when he did, it
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: was in the Super Bowl, for goodness sake. Tory Horton
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: had injuries, Robbie Oots had injuries, and then you still
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: have Cable Doing Richmond still around as offensive linemen. So
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a long way of asking of those guys that were
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: drafted in twenty twenty five, who's somebody that you think
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: is going to have a much bigger role in twenty
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: twenty six for the Seahawks.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Well, Riley Mills. It's not as if he didn't show
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: up because he was just loafing. He had a knee
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: reconstructive surgery in January. He had injured in January. The playoffs,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: the Notre Dame playoffs is late December actually, and so
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: his full recovery didn't really happen until well, he didn't
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: even get on the per field until late November, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: so they have big plans for him. They need an
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: interior defensive lind depths. It's part of the reason their
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: seventh round pick, Devin Eastern is a nose tackle, a
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: true nose although you don't expect seven round picks to
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: just jump right in. But Mills is going to be
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: squarely in part of the rotation. He's going to be
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: more like I won't say Byron Murphy and playing time,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: but he's going to be playing and splitting roles with Murphy.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: We saw the sack in the Super Bowl from Riley
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Mills and how excited everyone was for it because they
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: had all seen him grinding in the training room since June,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: and he was there on the practice field all the time,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: watching and learning from de Marcus Lawrence and Leonard Williams
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: and Byron Murphy and Jared Reid and absorbed most of
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: last season. He is almost a red shirt year for him,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: and then the Super Bowl sack has propelled him and
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: to Okay, here I go. This is why I'm here.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: So I would expect him to get, you know, thirty
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: forty percent more of the snaps the interior defensive line
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: and have more of a rotation. We've talked about this
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: a lot too, Chuck. When they were really rolling legion
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: of boom top of the league defense, which of course
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: they just had the top rank defense this year, but
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: they didn't have what they had back then of ten
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: defensive linemen eleven defensive linemen coming in waves and wearing
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: down offensive lines. I mean back then in those twenty
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: thirteen to fourteen Super Bowl teams, they had ten defensive
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: linemen playing by the middle of the first quarter, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: they weren't near that last year. They want to get
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: to that, but they're not near that yet. I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: they're still going to add a veteran defensive lineman. They're
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: going to get there. McDonald's hell bent to make their
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: defensive front and interier defensive line deeper. Riley Mills is
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: going to have a big role compared the way he
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: did last year, just simply because he's going to be there.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Julian Neil seemed to be really excited about being a Seahawk.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: How do you think he's going to fit into the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: this locker room, this culture, and onto this roster.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Well, he wouldn't be here if they didn't think so.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I wrote a story this morning at the News Tribune.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: You can look at the News Tribune dot com John
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Schneider has a unique I asked him, how do you
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: think you did? You had a goal coming in of
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: getting guys who aren't in awe, and we certainly didn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: hear when we heard Julian Neil Friday night. The last
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: thing he was was all in awe of anything talk
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: about I'm coming in here smashing people's faces. And they
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: talk about Bud Clark. They said, Bud Clark. First thing
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: he said is cam Chancellor hammer, not the nail. And
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: the coaches and scouts say that he might be more
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: brash than Julian Neal, although Neil came off more bravado
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: to us. They said Clark has supreme confidence. And so
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: I asked Schnyder, how did you do bringing in How
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: do you think you did? And your goal with bringing
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: in guys who are not in awe? He said, Greg,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I could talk to you about this for hours. We
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: have something called a competitor scale. This is the first
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: time he's talked about this. They actually assign a value,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: a number to each prospect on how competitive they are
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: and what their makeup is and would they how would
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: they come in and fit in this culture. They get
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: a value for that and you're not on their draft
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: board if you don't have a high competitor score. And
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: that's something that the Melkipers and Daniel Jeremiahs and all
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: these other people can't measure and don't measure. And when
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: you wonder why the seahawkszag when everyone thinks they're going
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: to zig in the draft, it's things like that, the
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: fact they have a competitor scale that is unique and
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: organic to just the Seahawks, with their own intangibles and
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: their own values and what they're what their locker room
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: to look like. You can't forty times in game film
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: can't measure that. So this guy said, how do you
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: go finding that scale? What factors did you go find
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: to make that number? And he said, we sent the
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: scouts out to everywhere, talking to everybody, the ras and
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: their dorms, the janitors on the campus, the librarys, the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: guidance counselors, the high school coaches and teachers. They do
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: like Rockford files, supreme deep dives on these guys that
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: can't It's like our audience pre force of audience has
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: no idea what I'm talking about. Kamara and James Garter
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: in nineteen seventies Melibo. But the point is they go
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: so far beyond the field to get this competitor scale,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: and they said that all the guys they drafted scored
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: high on this competitive scale for that locker room culture,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: it's their biggest challenge. The key they say to whether
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: they get back to the super Bowl is how closely
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: can they replicate the competitors, the locker room environment, and
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the brotherhood they had last year. They will tell you
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: to a man's coaching staff and players, they got to
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: the super Bowl because of their culture, and how can
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: they replicate that. That's their biggest challenge, maybe the biggest
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: fear that they'll never have a locker room in a
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: brotherhood like they did last season. So how are we
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: going to get back to the super Bowl? How close
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: can we get to that? And that's what they think.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: These eight guys are. Now, you're not going to get
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: your seventh round picks, probably aren't going to merge right
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: into traffic, into the culture and the competitiveness and the
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: skill and everything that the Super Bowl team had last year.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: But they are the more of the projects to get
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: to there. But guys like Clark and Neil and jenarium
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Price who turned away millions at Notre Dame to stay
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: behind Jeremiah Price because the Jeremiah loved, because he wanted
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: to challenge of being what he called back up to
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the best player in the country. Those are the guys
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: that are going to merge right into this culture and
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: fit and so far, so good in terms of how
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: competitive they're going to be from day one instead of
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: just oh with Devin Witherard's spoon though, and bowing to
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: them like ten years ago happened.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I retweeted that story out for people if they
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: want to read the entire article, and of course you
• 42:56
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• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Are going to the News Tribune dot com, but a
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: lot of ways to read up on that and Greg's
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the NFL trap. Very interesting stuff. All right,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: thank you, sir, We appreciate it. We'll give you a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: couple of days off, I suppose, but yeah, it doesn't
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: feel like we're to the off season just yet.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: No, there'll be a practice squad move or something that's right.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: No problem, all right, thank you, Greg. All right, Greg Bell,
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  Speaker 1: of the MS. Oh, there's a lot to talk about
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: on KJR. Just an ugly looking game, even the Twins
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: fans that are like, I don't want to watch this.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't blame them.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: We're winning by seven, but I'm going home. It's wet.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: It's been raining on me all day.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean, yeah, it wasn't well played either
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: by our group, the local baseball squad, and they got
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: thumped by a bad baseball team last night by a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: final score of eleven to four on a saggy night
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. But there's certainly a lot to discuss, not
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: just from that game, but with everything going on with
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the Mariners. And that's why we have the alphabet the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: ABCS of the MS, because it guides us through a
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: few different topics. Let's start with G. That's where we
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: left off yesterday. G is for Gilbert Logan Gilbert gets
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the start today against Joe Ryan, and Joe Ryan is
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Twins' best pitcher. So you've got a chance
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: still to win this series. You should win the series.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: They won't have weather as an excuse for a reason
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Sounds like the error will
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: clear in Minneapolis. And yet Joe Ryan could be a
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: reason that you lose because he is their best starting pitcher.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So Logan Gilbert needs will be a little bit better
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: than what he's been so far this season when these
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: next couple of games leave Minneapolis out of the whole
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: back to five hundred. That's my wish Ray can sell them.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: I like that wish.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: That said, Logan Gilbert's been the topic of a bit
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: of trade rumors here. As of late, Jeff Passen has
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: spread some stuff Dave Shoenfeld as well, and they're actually
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: discussing trading him now that maybe that's the solution to
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the Mariners surplus of starting pitching. I disagree. I mean,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I'll get to is Logan Gilbert a trade possibility in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: a moment, because absolutely he is. But I just don't
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: see them doing that over Luis Castillo gets moved to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the bullpen or something other than I mean, because I
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: think what they want to do. I think that they
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: are going to trade either Gilbert or Kirby in the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: next calendar year. But what they're going to want to
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: do is trade for a bunch of prospects, some major
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: league ready prospects. They're going to want to restore everything
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: so they can keep this train going year after year
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and remain competitive because they know they're not going to
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: be able to sign all four of their young starting
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: pitchers to contract extensions. I've been saying this for a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: long time. So the idea that you move Logan Gilbert
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: right now for what piece? What are you going to get? Hey,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to trade one of your best starting pitchers
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: for a bunch of prospects in the middle of a
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: season when you're trying to win the World Series, hope not,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and you're going to trade him for a veteran bat
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that might help you. Well, why would anybody want Logan
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Gilbert right now?
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Right he's not even at his prime.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: If they're going, no, no, they would want Logan Gilbert.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Why would they want Logan Gilbert right now other than
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to compete because he's only got a year and a
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: half left on his contract. So they're going to give
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: up a hitter, a really good hitter, in exchange for
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert in the middle of a playoff push of
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: their own. I mean I threw out a Castillo for
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Ian Hapting a couple of weeks ago, because that felt
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to me struggling pitcher, struggling hitter, both making twenty million
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: dollars per season. One satisfies the Cubs because they've had
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: so many starting pitching injuries, and one gives the Mariners
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a guy that they can play every day and give
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you Gold Glove caliber left field. So to me, that
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: sort of made sense. But if you're going to trade
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert, you're gonna ask for pretty much one of
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the best players on the team that you're trading him
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: to right now, what playoff contender is going to trade
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: one of their best everyday players for Logan Gilbert.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: Right because then you're immediately hurting your chances at the
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: World Series.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that's a possibility in season. But
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't This isn't just your aunt Tilly
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: spreading these rumors. This is Jeff Passing and Dave Schoenfeld
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: from ESPN that are kicking this, you know, can down
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: the road. So maybe it is a possibility, it doesn't
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: seem like that's logical to me. I think Logan Gilbert
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: is on this team for the rest of this season.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Now that said, I have said four years now they're
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: not keeping all four of these young pitchers, or if
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Hancock enters, at all five of them. There's no way
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you can afford to keep everybody on contract extensions, not
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: the way that the Mariners operate financial. So I have
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: said all along that this offseason one of Kirby or
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Gilbert will go. My guess has always been that it
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: would be Kirby because he's got two years left on
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: his deal, so you can actually get even more in
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: return for George Kirby, and then you lock up Logan
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Gilbert to the extension because Logan's probably more likely to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: play ball with you financially because of the relationships that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: he has and the loyalty he as to Cal and
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: many others. He just seemed like a better extension candidate
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to me than George Kirby. But we started airing rumors
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that since Logan had his baby, he wants to be
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: closer to family, and his family lives in Florida. So
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: if Logan Gilbert's not willing to play ball on an
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: early extension, is looking to maximize and wants to be
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: in the Southeast, well then yes, Logan Gilbert suddenly becomes
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the candidate to try to trade and George Kirby is
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the candidate to try to extend. But I don't think
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: in either case that's happening till the offseason. George Kirby
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and Logan Gilbert, in my opinion, that you do not
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: move them in the middle.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Of the year.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: Well no, and it doesn't help your situation right now anyway,
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: because then you still have Luis Castillo who's struggling.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: So now you're fifth.
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: You still got the pitcher that's going every five days
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: that got a six point thirty six er.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you could activate Kate Anderson because he might be
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: better than all of them could do that. He dominating
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: right now, all right? H is for Hoppy. Alex Hoppy
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: made his debut major league debut, and what a crappy
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: way to make your major league debut. I mean, one
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: hundred people in the stands on the road, terrible weather
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: blowout loss to the Minnesota Twins. The Mariners did try
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to get back into the game at one point, and frankly,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I know that at the end of the day he
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: ended up giving up a lot of runs. But I
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: loved what I saw out of HS for Hoppy last night.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: That slider is the real deal, as an eighty eight
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: nasty slider that he was throwing when he came into
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the game and got out of a jam that Wilcox
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: had created. Plus he's got a ninety eight mile per
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: hour fastball, and I'm not surprised at all that sent
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: out for a second inning. The logan Hoppy, who has
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: not pitched more than twenty five pitches in an outing
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: all year long, suddenly you're asking him to pitch over
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: forty He's pitching in the rain. Is adrenaline from coming
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: into his major league debut one hundred people are not
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: all that adrenaline had worn off. So he goes out
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: for the second inning. He starts to lose command, walks
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of guys. Now he's like, well, I can't
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: walk anybody. So now he's lost a little bit of
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the touch. He's a little bit tired, and the adrenaline
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: has worn off. Now Pete Woodworth came out to make
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: sure he was okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what else is
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the rookie going to say? But I think he was tired,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and I don't I think that the version you saw
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: of Alex Hoppy and the previous inning is the one
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: that we need to judge, because he could have easily
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: came in and been a erradic because he was overstimulated
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: by making his major league debut. But he looked like
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the real deal. He's got stuff. Frankly, Casey Legumina is
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: never going to have. So I liked what I saw
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: out of hs for Hoppy last night, despite the fact
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: that he gave up three more runs.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but as you said, it was a bad night anyway,
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: and so you got to see something a little bit
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: of a bright spot. And then you got and then
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: he kind of was the same as the rest of
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: the team. It was okay, it is what it is.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: You chalk it up to that night and let's see
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: him again. I'm excited to see him finally.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I as for inexcusable, And if you've been following at
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: all the Chuck and Buck radio show or our off
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: season Stove podcast I do with Andrewshurst, you know how
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: much I like Cole Young. And I just spent some
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: time yesterday saying what a great weekend series Cole Young had.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I probably am out as good big a Cole Young
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: fan as anybody listening right now. I think he's going
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: to be special for us. He might not ever be
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: a superstar, but I think he is going to be
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a rock for this organization at second Base for the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: next ten plus years. And I think he will be
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that they'll entertain an early extension for.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: So I really really do like Cole Young. That said,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: he's young, and he is eyous for immature, and he
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: did a couple of things last night that I believe,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: or I is inexcusable and not unforgivable, but inexcusable. I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: get that we've changed the way that we do things
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and that we want to laugh in
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: the face at the way the things used to be done.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: But there are some things that I believe still have
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: to be embraced. Because it's the game of baseball. When
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you are trailing as much as the Mariners were trailing
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: in the in the game last night, and you've got
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit of first two guys get on base,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: and you got a pitcher who suddenly looks erratic, and
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you got him in a two to zero hole. That
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: is not the time to swing out of your ass
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: at anything that he throws. That is the time to
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. Okay, it used to be you would
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: definitely take until you got to strike down that much. Okay,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: we can adjust that. I'm perfectly willing to adjust that
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit. If you get your pitch to hit
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: on two and oh, go ahead and swing away, because
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: maybe we can do some damage right here, because you
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: know he doesn't want to walk anybodymore another hitter. But
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: making up your mind like JP Crawford did over the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: weekend on two and oh, I'm swinging at the next
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: pitch no matter what is inexcusable. He swung at ball
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: three in that moment, allowed the pitcher, who was a
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: little bit on the ropes back into the count, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: then was ahead three to one again and still didn't
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: get a good swing on it. And that's when he
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: hit that little pop fly foul that the guy caught
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: over the tarp and we scored a run out of it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: But who cares. We were down six, yeh need, we
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: needed a rally and he killed the rally. And I
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: know that we've changed the way that we do things
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit, the philosophy of when you're down seven,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you just don't always take until you get a strike.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: But man, we can't change it so much that you
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: don't take a pitch when you're ahead in the count
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: that is six inches out of the strike zone and
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you're swinging at it. I mean, it's got to be
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: your pitch. So that, to me was inexcusable, and I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: hope that there's a lesson learned there. I hate seeing it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: It happens way too much in the modern game. Let's
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: respect the idea that we're trailing and we got to
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: put together a rally. Even if he hits a three
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: run homer, we still got a long way to go,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and so for him to swing at something out of
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: his ass on two to zero that wasn't even close
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to the strike zone. It killed that rally and that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: opportunity to get back into the game. I didn't even
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: like the fact that he bounced the ball on the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: relay on the first run that was scored last night
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: by the Twins. It's one hundred feet. Throw it in
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the air, for goodness sake. We don't have to bounce
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: everything to the first basement or the catcher right like
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: we should have had Josh Bell dead to rights. But
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: instead we bounce a ball from one hundred feet from
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: home plate when you know you've got a strong enough
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: arm to gun him down, and that takes a little
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: extra time to get to home plate. So I didn't
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like that about Cole's game last night, either. But he's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: been great so far this season. He was fantastic over
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the weekend, and I'll forgive him for a couple of
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: soggy moments on a saggy night.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: That's fair.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: But it is also fair to be able to criticize
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: him and say, hey, these things got to be changed,
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: all right.
• 56:57
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• 57:47
  Speaker 1: you know Bucky Jacobson today and boy is he really
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: going to miss out because we're bringing aboard his ginger
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: brother Cam Cleveland here today. We haven't spoken to in
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a while. It's been far too long if you ask me.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: And yet we got dogs after dark coming up this Friday.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: We were coming out of the NFL Draft. It just
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: seemed like a great time to get our old friend
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleland on the horn. How are you, sir?
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: I'm doing good. It's been a while. How about you.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I'm doing all right? How's everything? How's the family?
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: Things get they go good? I mean, it's just part
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: of you just you're upright, You're above ground. That's how
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: I always when you get to my age.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: God, I feel old.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: It's decrepit, man, don't we which we get over the
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: fifty mark?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: You just all right?
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: Be above ground? Can I still formulate a sentence? Can
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: I hit a golf ball? But on than that, man,
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: I'm just excited for Like I always say my own quote,
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: and I'll say this till I take the dirt nap.
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: There's two seasons. It's football season and there's waiting for
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: football season. He's throwing a good baseball season, Mariners, come on,
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: Maren throwing a good baseball.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: But that's what we're waiting for.
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for fall camp already, and then we watched football
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: and baseball in the fall.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what we do?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: All right? Well, I do want to talk a little
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: dogs after dark with you, but we're coming out of
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. I don't remember. I know I've asked
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you in the past. Was the draft a good or
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: bad experience for you? As you remember it?
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: It was just long.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: It was very different. You remember how it was. It
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: was on the weekend and I wasn't drafted. Well, I
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: was fortieth pick, but I wasn't drafted till like five
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: thirty Pacific time. It was a long day because you're
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: waiting around, and yeah, I was fortunate, but it was
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: it was fun. I mean, you get a phone call
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: and everyone's you get multiple phone calls throughout the day.
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: They say they're gonna take you, then they don't. Or
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: this coach calls you say we'd love you, but then
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: he takes somebody else. I guess you didn't love me
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: that much. So it is when it's over, it's relieving.
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: And I think to all these guys that got drafted,
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: Denzel to Carrio, Jonah and Carver and Season Santario and
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: then Zach too.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: At the end, I mean, and anybody that got to
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: that got a chance to get.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: A free agent contract, to go play and get a
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: new camp invite. Man, it's a brotherhood. It's something that
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: only a small amount of guys in this world have
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: ever accomplished. So it's a big deal to be part
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: of this league and get this opportunity. So I'm very
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: excited to those guys.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seven guys, seven Huskies drafted over the weekend of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: the seven. I'm gonna force you to only give me one.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: And yet I want you to tell me which guy
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: that when you were watching them play for the Huskies
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: these past year or years, you're like, that guy's got
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the real bright NFL future. You can only get me one.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: Well, that's it's hard because if you think of all
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: those guys that were drafted, you didn't see it. I mean,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: I didn't get a freshman that I watched all the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: way through.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I know, that's so rare. Now we barely see a guy.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: We get a chance.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: And then I got to see a lot of Denzel,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: who I like a lot as a wide receiver. And
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: how good was that twenty twenty three wide receiver room.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: Now when you see all the guys that were drafted,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: that's incredible. The one, the true I mean now I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: only got to see him for a year and I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: got and these are two guys, and you're gonna make
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: me pick between two, and it's just it's really difficult
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: because it's and can I just throw two names. It's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: to Carrio and Carver Willis. And I love where Carver
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: went because he's I mean, you got two guys and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: Ephesians both went to the forty nine ers.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then to Carrio is just different. He is
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: really different.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: For a while.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I only saw you seven games.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: I saw one interception versus my boys that play for
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: UC Davis, and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be great.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: And I didn't see him for forever. And then Carver
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: got hurt versus Ohio State and he was a star Wars.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: So it's just like these guys are. It's it's hard
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: once you get into the league.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Man, the ability is always just stay healthy.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: It's availability, and you know, you think that's why the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: average career, I'm not being a downer, the average career
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: is two and a half years, Chuck.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: It's fast.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: So you just you hope that you'd get a chance
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: to make a roster and then you can make an
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: impact real quick.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, you brought up Denzel right off
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the bat. I loved I don't know if you saw
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: any of the draft coverage at all, but I mean,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: he was projected to be a first rounder for a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: couple of years and he ended up not going in
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the first round. And one of my favorite parts about
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, one of the reasons why I love
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: it so much is to be able to watch people's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: dreams come true. Right before me. It's like seeing you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Ty Pennington's home improvement show, you know, over and over
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: and over the final result. Right, to see people's reaction
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: to seeing their dreams come true. And there's always a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: couple turns in the punch bowl that are angry where
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: they went, even though they went in the top fifteen,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: things of that nature. But for Denzel to have gone
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: two years kind of being projected as a first rounder
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: and then having slipped into the second round, but when
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: his name was announced, Cam, I mean, he was the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: happiest guy. His mom was happy, his dad would happy.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: They were just so happy and proud. I loved seeing
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: that because I guess he would have had reason to
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: have a few sour grapes that he had to wait
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: all the way through Thursday, sleep on it Friday night,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: wait till sleep on it Friday, wait until Friday night
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to hear his name called, and yet to see the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: great reaction. I think says a lot about his character
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and also have a lot about his parents as well.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: It does, and it means a lot for all of them,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: and your spot with it, because projections don't mean anything.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, I was in the same boat. I was
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: projected to be here and this that, and you're sitting
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: around listening people tell you how good you are, and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: then you're in. You know, you take thirty two dates
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: when you go to the combine. It sounds weird, but
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: I'm dating thirty two guys. I'm waiting around, I'm waiting
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: at teams and this coach says, you know, I kind.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Of like you.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: I think I like you. I might buy you a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: cup of coffee. But then then they don't. They don't
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: really like you, or they like this guy better. So
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: I finally see your name go across that ticker, that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: phone call that you get. It's just life changing, and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like an emotional release where you finally
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: say I've made it, but you really haven't made it yet.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: You just got The door is just cracked open. You
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: get to be a rookie. You're gonna have to buy
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: some donuts, maybe make a few rookie dinners. You're gonna
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: have to prove all these old veterans. You have to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: stare them in the face and say, hey, I'm here
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: to take your job, and they're not gonna like it.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: So it's a pretty cool league, but it is a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: ruthless league. But to be a part of it, I'll
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: say it over and over again. I'm happy for every
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: single one of those men, because there's not many guys
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: in this world that can say they got drafted into
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: the league.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: And that's for sure.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cam Cleveland, he got drafted into the league. He's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: with US color analyst for your Washington Huskies right here
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: on the Huskies flag Ship Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: three KJRFM. He's visiting with US today Dog's after Dark.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: The spring games coming up on Friday night, and I
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: certainly want to talk about that with Cam. But one
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: last question transition us into talking about the Huskies upcoming
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: team is with seven guys drafted, you're gonna have one
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: of two reactions I think to that as a Husky fan.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Number one is man Jedfish really is getting these guys
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: ready for the pros. He's making good on his promise.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: That's what he said, I'm gonna get you ready for
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the pros. He got seven guys that he that's not
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: a small number. Seven Huskies are now entering the NFL.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: In one draft or the other way, you could look
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: at it as we had seven guys drafted why weren't
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: we just a little bit better than we were this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: past year? What's your reaction to that or situation?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I like always to be as blunt and as
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: honest as I can. Is that you know, you look
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: at who won a national championship with a bunch of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: six year seniors, veteran experience. You look at what Indiana did.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: Miami was very experienced. This team wasn't experienced enough. And
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: the man who won the Heisman the most experienced leader
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: of them all. This falls on you had a first
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: year off it or defensive coordinator of coach Walters who
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: came in changed the whole identity of the defense and
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: they played very, very well. This is the year when
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: you watch, when you see the teams that win titles
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: now and now that the Big Ten has solidified themselves
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: as the best conference. Sorry, SEC, you can shout all
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: you want, that's three straight national championships. I know you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: can cry a little bit at all those SEC hanks
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, yeah, no they're not. They're
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: going to keep fighting with it. But this is about
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: how your quarterback plays. It is and it's in big
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: moments and in big games, and this isn't. This is
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: a challenge to anybody that plays that position when you
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: want to get to the top, especially now with eighteen teams,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: eighteen teams in this conference, you have to travel. Look
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: what Oregon had to do, you know, not to bring
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: up Oregon. They had to go back and forth to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: criss crossed the country and couldn't get it done. Physically abused,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: they were exhausted and worn out and they got exposed.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: And your best players have to shine in those big moments.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: And this year, in big games, it's time for the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: guys that have the big paycheck and the big numbers
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: to show up in those games. And that's what separates
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: you and gets you into the college football playoff and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: takes you to a championship run.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleveland is with us former Huski tied end right
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck in the morning. All right,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: let's talk about Friday. Give me a couple of names
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: that you are excited about watching on Friday and are
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: getting excited about based off of reports you're getting from
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: spring football practice.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: Well, I like, of course, we know that Demon's not
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: going to be hit because that's kind of the quarterback situation.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: But the backup role, whoever it is that's going to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: win the number two spot. I like the competitive side
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: of Elizah Brown. Certainly, you know he comes in as
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: a transfer from Stanford. But for me, this is a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: youth movement. These young the young freshmen. So there's two
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: freshmen that I'm excited to watch. One is certainly Cody Green,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: a big time left tackle. He and John Mills the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: youth on the offensive line. That's what I think about
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: what coach Switch has done with this offensive line, the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: flip and the turnover of big dudes that he has found,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: and what he's done with that group up front. Because
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: you you just won't win any football games without an
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: offensively you won't.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: You will you won't be You'll win.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: Occasional game against an average team, but in the big games,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: this is about young guys. And you're gonna put potentially
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: a freshman, a true freshman at left tackle to start
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: a season. That's gutsy or that means that that kid
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: is really really good. So I know he's had a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: good spring. And those are two young players that's good.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: The other ones are have One other freshman is Coleman Brusa,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: and he's like he's I think he just turned what
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: is he just barely turned nineteen eighteen from he is young,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: he has a defensive line mentality and size. When you
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: watch him play, he changes the d line as you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: can see. I really like the dudes, the big guys
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: up front. I think that they're the ones that set
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: the tone. And if you hear coach Fish talk Chuck,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: all he talks about is we've gotten bigger because we've
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: had to get bigger to win in the Big ten.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: And no pun intended, but you got you have to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: get size. And these are big freshmen, big young players. Yeah,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: they're not the glamorous positions that everybody seems to really
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: want to talk about. But those young freshmen are going
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: to be game wreckers this year. And watch for those
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: two names, because those guys are going to be on
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: the Every Freshman All American group by the end of
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: That's one thing you can't accuse me of. And that's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: just talking about the glamour positions. Let's talk quarterback. Why not.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: You're a teammate of Demand Williams. After what happened in
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the offseason where he nearly left town, tried to leave
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: town kind of came back to town, maybe a little
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: bit reluctantly, if no other reason tail between his legs
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: for sure, what is it that you want to hear
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: from him as his teammate coming back into your locker room,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: and then see from him as your teammate.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: Well, everybody gets this. It's a hard time for a
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: lot of these guys. I'm not gonna admit that it's easy.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of voices in your ear. There's a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: lot of people calling you. I know this happens, So
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: I'm not scared to just tell you and everybody the truth.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: Every phone call, every social media, you're reached out by agents,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: other coaches.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: There's tampering. We have the wild wild West.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: We're starting to get a little bit more structure in
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: college football now. Rules are starting to come out. We're
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: in line to get a commissioner.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Soon. Things will start to taper down.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: You now have a salary cap quote unquote, and you
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: have nil outside money.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: There's just a lot of distractions.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: So if I was if I was looking at every day,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: I'd want to see demand the first guy in the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: locker room, I'd want him to see in front of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: everybody at every opportunity in every lifting event.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: I want him.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: Every time he looks the guys, guys, I'm here to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: win a championship. I'm here to bust my ass to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: prove I want to be here. And he doesn't have
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: to say it, he just has to show it.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: Outwork everybody, and then you're just you're humble and you're respectful,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: which he is. So that's all you want from your
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: leader at the quarterback position. And then in the big moments, man,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: you make those plays. He has every one of those
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: abilities to do it. He has a tremendous gift and talent.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: He was just caught up in what a lot of
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: everybody gets caught up in. Anybody that's in business, is
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: anybody that's caught up when when money flashes in front
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: of you, don't act like you wouldn't make a hesitation
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: just a little bit. And I'm not excusing it so
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: because I don't know what we've seen situations throughout the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: country about what happened. So I'm about players being having
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: the opportunity to earn I don't have any problems with that,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: But when it comes down to the locker room, nobody's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: throwing dollar signs out and flipping money and open up
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: bags because nobody cares how much money you have on
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: game day, nobody Either you can fight and win or
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: you can't.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: You want to walk in with a shiny, shiny bag
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: and some great looking.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Jewelry and drive in in a hot car. Wonderful.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: I'm going to hit you in the mouth, and whether
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: you get back up and lead us to a championship,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: that's all that matters. Well, the guys in the locker
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: room smell that out real quick.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Who makes up for the production that you lose with
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Boston and Coleman going to the NFL.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's a room that has to It's a room
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: that when you lose that type of ability and you
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: lose your which you know, there were points in the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: season where Denzel had to had to make more plays
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: and he had some injuries too.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Back and forth.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm gonna watch a bunch of guys
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: out there that are fighting for positions, young players, guys throughout.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: I don't think there's anybody that I look at right
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: there and say he's gonna make up a ton of production.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: I think, I mean, there's the tight end positions got
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: to step up. The backs, the running back room. I'm
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: not gonna say it's better because you lose Jonah Coleman
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: and you certainly you know you lose your top two
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: running backs. Now you're trying to replace it. I think
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: it's collective. It's a collective group. There might be four
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: or five guys that you're gonna have to be able
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: to throw the football to and move it throughout, but
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: this is you're gonna have to run the football. Coach
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: Graham's got his work cut out for him by running
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: the football. I'll tell you, if you want to be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: have a big play wide receiver down the field, that's fantastic.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: But we have to win games.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: We lost those big games against Ohio State, Michigan, Okay,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: and in Wisconsin because we couldn't make a play at
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: the line scrimmage and that's that was the difference. So
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: are those are gonna be the important factors heading into
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna be here Friday? Are you and Tony
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: gonna see each other?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: I'm coming up. I'm gonna hang out Thursday with all
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: us old guys and talk about the old time. Okay,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: we've had leathers, leather helmets, and and and we strapped
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: it up and then we're gonna walk around and watch
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: the young players play a little golf and then uh yeah,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: we'll have some fun on Friday night. Man, it's gonna
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: be great the weather. How about the weather come on set. Yeah,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: way to show out. Been waiting for the last thirty months,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: but finally you're gonna make some weather up here.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently it's gonna be like we're a little early
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: to the seventy eight eighty degree weather uh this year.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: So I know it's been a bit of a dreary winter,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: but uh yeah, we're right on point right now. Wonderful.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: I'm excited to watch a lot of young play, young guys,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: young players.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Let's see what this depth has.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: Let's see what these guys and the juice that this
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: team pops off the screen. It's a good time to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: watch to see because well, you don't learn much in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: the spring.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Well, open up your eyes. You're gonna see some guys
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: really shine.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you sir for joining us. We
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: appreciate glad all is well and have fun on Friday.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: My pleasure. Thanks Juck appreciate it.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Can't please joining us right here on Chuck and Buck,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: And of course we got you covered on Friday, Dogs
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: after Dark. We're gonna make a pretty big deal out
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: of it. We got all our best people on it,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: so make sure you're tuned in for that Friday night.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's called Dogs after Dark, but most of it
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: is done in the daylight.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, because it doesn't get dark till like eight
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: thirty or.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Nine now right.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: Nonetheless, concept you know what, if we were further south.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: It get darker earlier.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: We'll pretend we won't wear sunglasses. There you go, okay
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: that way, and I'll play it on some pajamas.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: Yep, and a night cap.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: But it's this Friday and should be a lot of fun.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Used to be on the third day of the draft.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Almost every year was the third day of the draft,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: and they changed that a little bit, and understandably so.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: But so here we go. I mean, he's right, there's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: football season and then there's waiting for football season, and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: we got a lot of little events. The NFL does
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: an amazing job of filling that time so that it
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like you've been without football for very long
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: and college football. They do their best under their circumstances
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: to kind of do the same. So this is a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: little bit of an appetizer of what you've got upcoming
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: for the Huskies season. So Dogs after dark this Friday
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: and you can listen right here at KJAR. Should point
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: out a little bit of breaking news from Major League
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Baseball here right before we brought Cam aboard, another manager
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: has been fired before the month of May. First it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: was Alex Cora of Boston. And not just any old managers,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are pretty significant names with significant franchises.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Phillies have also fired their manager. Rob Thompson
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: is out. He had done such a good job with
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: that veteran group in Philadelphia, but this year they are
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: off to a nine and nineteen start, and so something
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: had to change, and the Phillies have fired Thompson and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Don Mattingly will take over as interim managers. So before
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: we even got to May first, two firings already at
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: managerial positions in Major League Baseball, and with two major
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: you know, profiled organizations. Yeah, it was supposed to be contenders. Yeah,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: they certainly have not played like that, by the way,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: all the controversy over Boston's firings. It seemed premature to
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: me too. Craig Breslo said, we had to shake this
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: thing up. They've won every game since that time they won.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I guess it's just two and zero. But they've now
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: won three straight games and Boston, so maybe it will work.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe it will shock the team into realizing they're better
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: than their record.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Kates.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: The Phillies were planning on winning the World Series this
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: year and they're nine to nineteen. I don't know what
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: the Mets are waiting for. I was surprised Mendoza made
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: it out of the off season. Wouldn't that be funny
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: if that's where Steven Cohen draws the line with his finances, like, Nope,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: no way, no way, I'm gonna blow that kind of money.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: Nope, no, I gotta hang on to these funds.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I have a trillion dollar payroll because I was willing
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: to give anybody a billion dollars as long as they
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: played baseball. But I am drawing the line at paying
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: two managers at once.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: I will not. That is not gonna happen.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: How am I gonna buy a sandwich if I'm paying
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: too many people too much money?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, speaking of baseball, do we have a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo problem? Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: So is the idea about this YouTube that I'm supposed
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: to interact with it? Like I'm supposed to send text
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: messages during the show, or I'm just supposed to be
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: view visibly doing a radio talk show.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 7: You are not supposed to interact with them like necessarily
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 7: while you're on. You're they're just watching us do our
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: normal show. You can, if you choose, go on and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: interact with them and type messages.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: It's not that I'm choosing not to. I'm just not
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: in the habit of doing that right. And I don't
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: know if anybody's noticed. But we're down a player, so
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: been pretty busy, So I don't know if anybody thought
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: to ask me exist, or I don't know if I
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: got a tutorial on how I'm supposed to be on YouTube.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: You have not, Yeah, no, you have not.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: And I don't know what our company is expecting. I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: go on there every day. I'm on, and I try
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: to answer questions or say hi. In the morning, there's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: what we have one person every morning that comes on
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: right there. The first good morning, I say, good morning.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Oh nice.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: Yep, they've let us know of some issues that they
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: would like fixed on the YouTube we're working on.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: That sounds fair, sounds like that's in play.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: It's great. Okay, Yeah, so you do whatever makes you
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: happy and comfortable.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I suppose I should start doing something. I don't know
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: if I'm doing.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: Enough, but I do feel like, yeah, it would. We
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: are down a person. Everything is a little busier.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little busier, and so breaks are all busy.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: At this point, like we're trying our best here.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: So all right, well, you know, we'll talk about it after. Yeah,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: figure out what I can do other than just give
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: you know, some smoldering look into the camera.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: Everyone's you know, what we could do is because that's
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: one thing people are They're like, what are you going
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 7: to do during breaks? It's just silence and there's just
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: a graphic. So we could just put the camera on
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: you during breaks.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: True, we could see moldering.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: Look.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I can give you somemoldering looks. But I'm actually doing
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: even more work in the break than I'm doing. Don't
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: realize live on the air, like you know, putting ducks
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: in order and everything else. I suppose you could watch
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: me prepare in the break. Maybe that is something, Yeah,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: or try to eat a protein puck, yes with and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: get all the seeds out of my mouth. All right,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: So before I come on the airwaves, that's another thing
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: that's very challenging.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: Next break, I'm gonna leave the video on. There will
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: be no mics, so there will be no audio, and
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: we'll just see what people think. It'll be like watching
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: fish in an aquarium.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've seen me do a lot of swishing
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: with water, it's because I'm trying to get the seeds
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: out of my mouth. But by the time you see
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: it on YouTube, I'm ninety five percent there. Yes, Yeah,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: you're not seeing all the dentistry.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: You can see all the work that goes into it.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're throwing out the baby with the bath wall.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: Come on.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that applies.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: Process, but you can roam myself.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Dentistry in the break certainly could be viewed if that's
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: what we're here for. Yeah, you want to see me.
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  Speaker 7: Well they're gonna get it. They're gonna get a look
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  Speaker 7: at it. We'll see what they think.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Luis Castillo. This is getting to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: the point where we're getting beyond short sample size. And yes,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: it's early. I do know it's early, and I can
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: live with some rough results. I mean, I mean, I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: think this has been consistent from me. I think this
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: is why this stands out as being a little bit different.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I said, don't worry about Andres Munjos. Just last week,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I said, don't worry about Julio, Josh and Cal. I mean,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: what were my statements If you really think Cal, Julio
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Josh Naylor are the three worst hitters in
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the American League than panic. Yeah, but I think they're
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: going to heat up, and I think when they heat up,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: the team's going to start playing better. That's exactly what
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: has happened. I said just last week, don't worry about
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Andres Munos. The velocity is fine. He's lost a slider
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit to feel for it that could come
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: back win one bullpen session. And what has he done
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: since that time? He's been good old Mooney Again. I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: have not felt this way about a couple of veterans
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: on this team, JP Crawford, which will put a pin
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: in and say for another date, yeah, Luis Castillo is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the fresher news. I am concerned about Luis Castillo. I mean,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: baseball's just become such a young man's game, and I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: suppose so is football, and so is the NBA. I mean,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: the prime of a player's career used to be the
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: sort of the The standard answer was twenty seven to
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: thirty two. It is not anymore. It seems to be
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: like twenty four to twenty nine is sort of the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: prime of a baseball player's career. Doesn't mean the guys
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: can't be good beyond that. I mean, we're seeing Aaron
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Judge still be at the top of his game, and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: he's beyond that and Cal, you know Cals. I don't
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: think Col's at the end of his window. And he's
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: what twenty nine years old, getting ready to turn thirty.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that it's you know, there's a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: dramatic drop off has to occur. But once upon a
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: time you were thought still being your prime around thirty two,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if that is the case necessarily anymore.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: And so we're just seeing guys age a little faster.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford is a shortstop that was known for his
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: lateral quickness, he has none anymore. He has no latteral
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: quickness anymore. And then Luis Castillo, you know, I don't
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: know if it's age, but certainly he does not have
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: the mix of stuff that we've seen him have in
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: the past. His velocity last night was ninety two to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: ninety four. I mean, that's Casey Legumina territory, and we
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: just dfa'd him, okay. And I would also say another
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: problem that I have is that he doesn't trust his stuff.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, Luis Castillo as recently as this past year,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: I was having conversations on the air with national broadcasters
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: that were suggesting his stuff so nasty. He's still the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: ace of this staff. I didn't see that. I mean,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: he was not being used in big moments in the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: postseason a year ago. For a reason. I think we
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: started to see the slip, We started to see the
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: decline a little bit last year. Maybe he gets it back,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe he is bothered by the cold weather. Certainly was
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: a nasty night last night in Minneapolis. That doesn't help
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: anybody's game. But I see somebody whose velocity is down
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: three four miles per hour, and he has such lack
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: of faith in his stuff. I mean he is working
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: almost exclusively on the fringes. I mean he is counting
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: on people swinging at bad pitches. I mean that's what
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: he's doing. His fastball up in the zone is usually
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: like an inch or two above the zone. That two
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: seamer that was so nasty when he arrived on the scene,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: and it would just dart away from lefties and dart
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: in on right handers with wicked movement. It doesn't have
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: the same movement. And he's also starting it on the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: outside edge and breaking it outside of the strike zone.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: And the slider he never throws in the strike zone.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: So what you saw last night not even from a
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: good hitting team, but a couple veterans sprinkled in there,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: and obviously a good scouting report because the word's gotten out.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have the stuff to challenge you. So he's
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: working on the fringes. He's going deep in the counts
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: on nearly every batter that he faces. He's putting a
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: lot of traffic on the bass paths. And then once
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: he puts traffic on the bass pads, now I've got
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: to give into the hitter. And then when he does
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: give into the hitter, they're crushing him, and so it's
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: just a bad combination of things. The end result is
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: you got a guy with a six and a half
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: RA that you are expecting to get a three and
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: a half RA out of. So he's not the same
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo, I hope it is, through his words, just
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: a slump, but I do fear that it might be
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: more than that. I think maybe we've seen the slip. Yeah.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: Well, and my concern is obviously when yeah, when he's
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 7: going so deep in the count and he's giving up
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: the runs, that sounded weird, but a bucket then, I mean,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: you know they were remarking yesterday how glad they were
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: he could come back out for the fifth inning, but
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: that for your starter, you need him through.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: The fifth inning.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: I mean that shouldn't be Oh thank goodness, he came
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: back out for that and he could go five. I mean,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: you're when you look at him compared to the others
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: who are going six, seven, eight, I mean that that's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 7: putting the tacks on your bullpen right there. And then
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: on top of it, even if if he can get
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: some of it back, I would worry is it going
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 7: to be consistent or is it going to be one
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 7: game he's because I mean even last year it was streaky.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 7: You know, he'd have one game where he was really
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 7: good and one game where he was not really good.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: There are wins and there are losses, and you learn
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to kind of deal with that. That's baseball, you know.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you can pitch great and you can lose the game.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you can pitch great, give up a bunch of
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: bloops and suddenly you've given up six runs and you're
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: out of the game. Yeah, but it is another thing.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: It is a bad night at the ballpark for a
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: starting pitcher when your manager is basically saying, we need
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: you to eat innings like you already lost lost the game,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: right you all and it looked gross.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: Just don't screw over our bullpens.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now we need you to go out for
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: two more innings when you don't have your good stuff
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: and throw as many pitches as you can to get
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: us through. That is a bad night at the ball yeah,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: for a starting pitcher. And so that's what he's been
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: dealing with more often than not this season. And he
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: is beloved, They love him, and he is the big
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: brother in that starting rotation. But here's the cold plain
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: truth of it, and I want us to operate in
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: cold plain truths. This is an organization that has never
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: been to the World Series. This is an organization that
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: is believed to have the ability to get there this year.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: It's the only thing that matters, not how much you're
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: paying someone, not how much of a veteran they are,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: not how much they're liked in the locker room. This
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: is about putting the best play on the field. And
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: right now, Luis Castillo's not even our sixth best starter
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: in our organization, Kate Anderson, I promise you is better
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: than Luis Castillo. Right now, he's the seventh best guy.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: So when Bryce is ready to come back to me,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Luis is the odd man out. And yeah, to your
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: point earlier, we'll put you in a long relief situation.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: That way, we don't shorten you up so much that
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: you know, you get out of the practice and the
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: habit and the conditioning to be a starting.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: Pitcher in case they need him again.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, because you could need him again to pop back
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: in there, or if he starts to find his groove,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: then it's not a big transition back. But I don't
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: think it's a terrible idea to have the idea in
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: your brain that Luis Castill moves to the bullpen with
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: the idea that by the end of the season, regular season,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: maybe he can work in a high leverage role. Maybe
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: if he he's going out for just three outs a
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: game that he's thrown his absolute best stuff, not worrying
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: about I got to get through five or six innings.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I'm throwing as hard as I can, with as nasty
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: as stuff as I can, with the idea I got
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: to get three outs tonight without giving up a run.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen a lot of long term starting
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: pitchers transition at this stage in their careers into really
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: successful relief pitching stints. Dennis Eckersley became a Hall of
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Famer doing it. John Smoltz, who still regrets it to
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: this day, became a hell of a closer there for
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, even though he didn't want to
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: make the transition. Maybe it's something that you consider considering
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: the numbers crunch that you have at starting pitcher right now.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: But bottom line is, we're trying to win a World
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Series right now, and if Bryce Miller's ready to go,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller's better than him, Emerson Hancock's better than him,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Kate Anderson's better than him. And yet, are we really
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: going to stand on ceremony and try to protect people's
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: feelings when we're trying to win a World Series right now?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Is that really in the best interest of the team,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: just to make sure that Luis's feelings don't get hurt
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: because he got demoted to a different role.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 7: Well, and I think if you asked him, he wants
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 7: to win a World Series too, so he'd rather do
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 7: whatever's going to help make the team.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would hope.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, I mean starting pictures, don't. I think
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: what he would say is we're not even to May yet.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Let me get let me get some warm weather, let
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: me get into my rhythm. I'm in a slump right now.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: I'll come out of it. I've been here before. I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: think that's what he would tell you. I think there
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: are some indications that he's just not the same picture
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just saying I could picture, you know, in August,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 7: when you've got a really important game on the line
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 7: and you go to the bullpen and all of a sudden,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 7: you hear this as the doors.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: Open and he comes out to give you not bad,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: some dominance.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: You go. You can picture it, right.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: I can picture that. Yeah, And you got a year
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: and a half left with him.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: So he gets you your three outs that you need.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: He gives you the fist. There you go.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not overnight. You're not going okay today,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: you're an eighth inning guy. You know. Maybe it is
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: like this is the step back. Let's get you right,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: We're gonna put you in long relief for a little while.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe there. I mean, there's a way to say it
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: without hurting the feelings. There's a way to transition this.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, by the end of the year,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: that music starts playing, he's in a role. He comes out,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: the crowd goes wild. Yeah, you had another potential. I
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: No, me neither.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not ideal. It's not what we wanted
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: to have happened at the beginning of the year, but
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: we got a numbers crunch and I just don't like
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: the idea of well, Emerson still has options. No, even
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: though he's been our best pitcher this season, he still
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: has options.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: Listen to him to Dickon, No, doesn't seem fair.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: I don't like right all right? Coming up next on
• 1:32:51
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• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Rob Refschneider two days ago? Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: three KJRFM. Oh, this is dramatic music.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 7: Rap, dear mappymatic, draf dramatic.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: What do you do when you're in the aftermath of
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: the draft. You're stuck in the drafter math.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: Drafter man, drafter coming to theaters, drafter.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Math, draft dies, rate it off, Dotter.
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  Speaker 3: Tom Hardy.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: He would be in it, sure be awesome in it?
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, because is he not awesome in anything?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Pretty much everything? Yeah, yep, nine o'clock hour here on
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: this Tuesday, Ashley Ryan, Chuck Powell with you, and yes,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: we are stuck in the drafter math, the aftermath of
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, where there's so much more to sort out.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: I guess gott to sort out my feelings here this week.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: So well, we're gonna spend the whole week sorting out
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: our feelings toward things. There's no question about it, and
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: the NFC West particularly, I mean, this is like a
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Bravo show all the drama that's going on in the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: NFC West in the drafter math, And we haven't even
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: talked about the forty nine ers since the weekend, which
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: we have to discuss. And I still have more on
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles rams to discuss, but let's at least
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: start with the Seahawks, where the waters are so calm
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: and soothing.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: It's really actually quite delightful.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Oh so tranquil.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: I love drama, but only when other teams.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to do a reality show on
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: this family because we all get along. We're all polite,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: we all love our parents, we respect our siblings. There's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: just uh, you know, there's Yeah, we share, we share,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: we support one another, and we have drafts that don't
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: create ripples. We just fill holes that really weren't that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: big to begin with.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: It's like a zen gardener.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna brag about it a little bit.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, we just we're so good at it at
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: this point as world champs that to we just draft
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: and find people we want to hang out with.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, I get it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: We had Greg on at seven oh five, Greg Beller
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Seahawks Insider and of course this is an organization. And
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: then in the last few years and it has been
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: about face. It's not like they've been doing this for years. Uh,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: they just decided, Man, we're going to prioritize character a
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: lot more than what we did in the past. They've always,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: you know, they've always drafted competitiveness. You know, Pete was
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: always about competing every day. That's no different. That said,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: they have drafted a few turns in the past that
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: were so uncompetitive that they may have tried to get
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: hurt before they showed up for training camp. And then
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: you've got the other part of it, and that is
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the culture that they've created, how excited they are, how
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: much credit they've given that culture to their winning a
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: super Bowl earlier than what was expected. I think that
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: maybe even they felt they were forecasting. So we've got
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: a good thing going. How do we keep that going. Well,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: it's by drafting guys that fit our culture. So when
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: they took Julie and Neil third round out of Arkansas,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: the cornerback and he was very fiery in his reaction
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: to being drafted by the Seahawks. That videos made its
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: rounds and then he was very fiery in his first
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: interview with the Seattle Media hoarde on Friday night. I
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: asked Greg Bell this morning, when it comes to Julie
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: and Neil, how well does he fit not just this
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: roster but culture.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: So I asked Schnyder, how did you do bringing in
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: how do you think you did and your goal of
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: bringing in guys who are not in AWE? He said, Greg,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: I could talk to you about this for hours. We
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: have something called a competitor scale. That's the first time
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: you've talked about this. They actually assign a value, a
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: number to each prospect on how competitive they are and
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: what their makeup is and how would they come in
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: and fit in this culture. They get a value for that,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: and you're not on their draft board if you don't
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: have a high competitor score. And that's something that the
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: mel Kipers and Daniel Jeremiahs and all these other people
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: can't measure and don't measure. And when you wonder why
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks zag when everyone thinks they're going to zig
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: in the draft, it's things like that. The fact they
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: have a competitor scale that is unique and organic to
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: just the Seahawks with their own intangibles and their own
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: values and what they're what their locker room to look like.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: You can't forty times in game film can't measure that.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: So this guy said, how do you go finding that scale?
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: What factors did you go find to make that number?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: And he said, we sent the scouts out to everywhere,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: talking to everybody, the ras and their dorms, the janitors
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: and the campus, the librarians, the guidance counselors, the high
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: school coaches and teachers. They do, like Rockford Files, supreme
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: deep dives on these guys that can't It's like most
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: of our audience three force of audience has no idea
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. Kamara and James Garter in nineteen
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: seventies Melibu. But the point is they go so far
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: beyond the field to get this competitor scale. And they
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: said that all the guys they drafted scored high on
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: this competitive scale for that locker room culture. It's their
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: biggest challenge. The key they say to whether they get
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: back to the super Bowl is how closely can they
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: replicate the competitors, the locker room environment, and the brotherhood
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: they had last year. They will tell you to a
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: man's and coaching staff and players. They got to the
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: super Bowl because of their culture, and how can they
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: replicate that. That's their biggest challenge, maybe their biggest fear,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: that they'll never have a locker room in the brotherhood
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: like they did last season. So how are we going
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: to get back to the super Bowl? How close can
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: we get to that? And that's what they think. These
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: eight guys are. Now, you're not going to get your
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: seventh round picks, probably aren't going to merge right into traffic,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: into the culture and the competitiveness and the skill and
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: everything that the Super Bowl team had last year. But
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: they are the more of the projects to get to there.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: But guys like Clark and Neil and jenarium Price who
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: turned away millions at Notre Dame to stay behind Jeremiah
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: Price because they're Jeremiah loved, because he wanted the challenge
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: of being what he called back up to the best
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: player in the country. Those are the guys that are
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: going to merge right into this culture and fit and
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: so far, so good in terms of how competitive they're
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: going to be from day one instead of just oh
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: with the Devin Witherspoon now in bowing to them like
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: ten years ago, happened.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Seahawks waters are calm, there's tranquility on the
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: lake never before. It is renting felt in.
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  Speaker 3: A better place.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: But what about chasing Statham and Charlist thereon? Will they
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: chase the money or will they chase love? They're caught
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: and the drafter mat. Yeah, we're figuring out. We've we've
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: invented a stat called competitive scale. Oh, this guy's I've
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: this guy's a ninety four. What are you talking about?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: What we're talking about?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: Mike?
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  Speaker 5: I wonder what we'd get on that scale.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'm up there. Yeah, I'm up there.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you are too.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: Mike sees an animal when he looks at in its eye. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I strang kay on the competitive scale. But these other
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: franchises maybe not in such a great place. Maybe they
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: are caught in the draftermath, like the Los Angeles Rams.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Now here's the latest with the Los Angeles Rams. And
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I think we're running a promo about my initial reaction
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: to what I thought was going on. And that was
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: all the way back on Friday. It looked like Sean
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: McVay was pissed off. They of his sense explained it
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: over and over and over, with a smile on Sean
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: mcvay's face as he laughs about how he didn't do
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: a very good job of acting. You know, you've seen
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: that acting exercise, Show me fear, now, show me melancholy,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and you have to do the facial expressions
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: and you can't say a word. Yeah. Well, it's as
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: if somebody told Sean McVay an acting class, show me
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: compassion for your players, and it came on off just
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: sheer anger.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, none of it made sense.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: It did not look like he was just trying to
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: protect Matt Stafford. It looked like he was angry. So
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: we've met this discussion numerous times. Now we're hearing that
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay and ty Simpson had a conversation for hours
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: prior to the draft, and so ty Simpson was sure
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: he was going to be drafted by the Rams, and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: yet Sean McVay wasn't in the room when it happened.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: And of course we know the rest. So two things now,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: as we are caught in the drafter math of all
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: of this. Number one, and this is a little different
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: than what I said yesterday, can we then if this
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: is true and this was pre arranged. Can we then
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: leave the door open to the possibility that Sean McVay
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: on draft day said to less Need, Hey, I didn't
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: know Ruben Bain was going.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: To be available.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: This changes everything for me. And Snead said, we've already
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: told the kid we're gonna draft him. You had a
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: four hour conversation with him the other day. Yeah, I
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: don't care, man, Yeah, I mean this is about making
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: the team better right now. I didn't know he was
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: going to be on the board. I didn't know that
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: Vega Iowani was going to be on the board. We
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: got to get him. We got to get a better team.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Did that go down? And then Sneed's like, no, no, no,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: I've already told him we're taking him. We're sticking, We're
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: taking the quarterback. That was the plan. I screw you,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: and he leaves the room. Is that a possibility that
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: in the moment, McVeigh says, I know what we agreed with,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: but I'd rather have this guy right now, and Les
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Snead said, no, we've already gone down the road on this.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to now pull the rug out from
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: underneath Simpson. Is that a possibility?
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 7: It is absolutely a possibility. But if that's the case too,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 7: that's dumb. You shouldn't be telling anyone us it's the
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 7: number one or number two unless you've got the number
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 7: one or number two, maybe number three pick.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't be telling anyone you're.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: Going to draft them because you don't know how things
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 7: are going to fall, and especially the thirteenth pick. I mean,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of different things that happened that surprise people.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 7: So why would you commit to somebody right say, when
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 7: you have no idea how the chips are going to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 7: fall all the way to you?
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, and now let's think about the other thing. Let's
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: buy them at their word, okay, that this was the
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: plan all along. I just did a bad job of
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: acting out my concern for Matthew Stafford's you know how
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: he was going to receive this. How about calling him?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: If you had this plan for so long and you
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: had four hour conversation, was it not worth a thirty
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: minute conversation with Stafford to tell them what you were
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: going to do so that you didn't have to on
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: draft day act like you were pissed off. Well, now
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: now you drafted a quarterback. Secondarily, now that You've had
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: to go for four days explaining now this was the
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: plan all along. It now looks like you stabbed Stafford
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: in the back. How does Stafford feel now knowing that
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: you had a plan to draft Simpson for weeks, barely
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: let him know what you were going to do in
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: time for the draft, and then tried to fake like
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: you were concerned about his feelings when you drafted him.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I if I'm matt Stafford, now, maybe they can't handle it.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe guys at that level can't handle it. But I'd
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: much rather you just draft the quarterback, say you're excited
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: about him. Matthew Stafford's our quarterback, and whenever he decides
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: and it's on his time he wants to step away,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: we've got his back up ready to go. We don't
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: take care for it takes three to four years versus
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford now feeling like, all right, you really did
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: kind of go behind my back and then replace.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: Me and then act like and then you had nothing
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: to do with it, were in.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Working in my best interest, trying to protect my feelings,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: like I'm some weak guy that doesn't understand the business,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: so I don't know to me no matter how you
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: slice it no matter what's authentic. It feels like they
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: bumbled the whole problem.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels like they have no clue what they're
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 7: doing and this is their first time drafting.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 7: And that's the thing too, is even after he was drafted,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 7: ty Simpson said, I haven't even talked to them, or
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 7: I haven't even talked to McVeigh.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, now you've been drafted.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 7: Why do you guys have to keep up a charade
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: that you had no communication. That makes no sense to
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 7: me because at that point you could be like, oh, yeah,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 7: I knew they were gonna draft me. We actually had
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 7: a conversation a couple of weeks ago for hours and
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 7: only talked football. If that really happened, why would you say,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 7: why wouldn't you tell the truth instead of continuing with
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 7: this whole thing of oh.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: This is a shock, I had no idea they were
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: gonna draft me.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 7: We haven't even talked, because that makes it look way worse.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get why you keep the things secret.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: You got to throw people.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 7: Off, Yeah, all the way till the point where you
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 7: make the pick, right, yeah.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, show me empathy? No, no, no, Sean, that's anger Againeah,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: you're still doing anger?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: Why are you still so mad?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: The only empathy that do you know what empathy is?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Show me happy? I kind of like sympathy.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: Show me happy. No, Sean, it looks like your face
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: is about to explode.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not being angry, you're still way off. We're looking
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: for empathy slash happiness.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: Nope, you're all ready, yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: You're you're you're showing me fury. Now you're actually getting angry.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: You look like you're weightlifting.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about forty nine ers. We haven't
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: talked about the forty nine ers. They too are caught
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: in the draft math.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, here, hold on our music?
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, hold on?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: Get past that? Really slow?
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: John Lynch, great player, knows how to sign a free agent,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: but is his head entirely up his buttocks when it
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: comes to prospects. He's caught in the.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: Draft or man.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: So grand Cone's really been leading this, but he apparently
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: was the spokesperson for all of the San Francisco forty
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: nine er media. You know, performers. I don't want to
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: call them a horde because they're probably soft. They probably
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: got their sweaters tied around there. Yeah, so he's been
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: the kind of the face. He's the guy if you
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: don't know he's he follows. He covers the beat for
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. And he directly asked John Lynch,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: and it made John Lynch very uncomfortable. Why do you
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: seemingly go off the board and reach on draft picks
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: that nobody agrees with? And John Lynch was did not
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: like the question at all, that was very obvious. Shannan
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: picked up the ball and tried to give an answer,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: tried to like answer it respectfully, which I guess they
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: were entitled to say, f off Cone. Yeah, you know,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: they could have said that, how dare you? But they
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: didn't do that, and so they reaction since that time is,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: you know, people take their sides. Was Cone right? Some
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: people believe was Cone was right to ask the question?
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: And then other people why on earth would you think
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: that he should follow a board of draft experts. You know,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: he's a general manager. He shouldn't ever do he shouldn't
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: make a pick just to please the melkypers of the world.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: And I agree with that one thousand may. We could
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: have two truths here, by the way. Number one, you're
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: the general manager, You shouldn't be paying attention to any
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: draft experts boards. You should be following your own board,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: and you live and die with the decisions. If I'm
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: going to be fired eventually because I didn't make good
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: draft picks, it's going to be because I made the picks,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't just trying to make Grant Cone and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: the media happy by taking someone that they were comfortable
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: with me taking. You own the pick, Yeah, you own.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: You are in charge of the pick. You pick the pick,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: and you go with what you think. And if you
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: think Desohn's Stribbling even though most people Adam graded as
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: a fifth sixth rounder, is that good, take them. You
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: live with it, and you ride or die with Deson Stribbling,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: even though Denzel Boston was on the board and a
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: lot of people thought that's where they should have gone.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe Stribbling ends up being the better player than Denzel
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: Boston in the long run. So I'm all about that.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: That's what general manager should be doing. That's what you
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: have to do. I think that'd be the only way
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: you could even live with yourself is if you're making
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: the picks that you believe in. That said, you really
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: have had bad draft picks. Yeah, this is like five
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: years and you really have barely unearthed a I mean
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: a couple starters here and there, but it's been like
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: the nucleus of Fred Warner and Joey Bosa. I mean,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: they're now starting to look like older players at this stage,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: and you're still living off of that foundation and veteran
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: signings and trades for guys like Christian McCaffrey and getting
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: lucky Let's face it with Brock Perdy at the end
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: of the draft, because the guy you really believed in
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: was Trey Lance, who you drafted the year before, and
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: he was terrible.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, so you are not.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: You don't have a good track record of good draft
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: picks by your going off the board. I'm not listening
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: to anybody else, but our board don't have a really
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: good track record of doing that. And yet they keep winning.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: They're not going away. I believe they would start showing
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: cracks last year and I you and I both we
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: went butted heads with Bucky about this. I thought they
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: were going to go through a serious decline last season.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: What they went twelve games eleven games last year. Now
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: we skunked them twice down the stretch. They aren't in
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: the same ballpark as the Seahawks right now, but nonetheless
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: they still figured out a way to win games, not
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: just stay relevant, but stay very relevant throughout all of
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: these bad drafts that they've had in the last two
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: or three years with that veteran foundation. But eventually, eventually
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: it does have to come back to haunt you, to
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: miss on drafts year after year after year. And so
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: I think that the media was right to question you.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: And yet I think the forty nine ers are right say, hey,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: we're gonna ever die with our picks and the guys
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: that we believe believe in. I think eventually they're going
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: to die from it. I do. But that's all you
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: can do as a general manager. You better not be
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: making your draft picks based on what mel Kuiper thinks.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: Otherwise hire melk Kuiper.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go. You could and then you could
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 7: have had Sanders in the first Sanders.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: On your team. All right, coming up next on the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: radio program, first time we've ever tried this. There are
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of controversies going on in the world, and
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: we need a court system since the old judge has
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: not been showing up to work to decide who should
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: get punished. It's time for the Nights of the Round.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: Vabel next on KJR