Latest / Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash / #169 Double The Chaos With Italian NRL Wag Tayla Montoya

Transcript

#169 Double The Chaos With Italian NRL Wag Tayla Montoya · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

0:00
Speaker 1: Ash, I think you're gonna love this episode. I love
0:03
Speaker 1: every episode. I don't know what you're talking about, but you.
0:05
Speaker 2: Love NRL, and this is a love story that has
0:08
Speaker 2: come from the world of NRL.
0:11
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not going to say it's between a cheerleader
0:13
Speaker 3: and an NRL player, because that would be off limits.
0:15
Speaker 3: Matthew is a cheerleader and an under twenties player, which
0:18
Speaker 3: I don't know how makes a difference.
0:20
Speaker 1: That's us perfectly fine.
0:22
Speaker 2: This episode is with Taylor Montoya, beautiful name, and she's
0:26
Speaker 2: married to Marcelo Montoya, who plays with the Bulldogs currently,
0:29
Speaker 2: who is a try scoring machine.
0:31
Speaker 1: Matthew.
0:33
Speaker 2: She is Italian background, he is Fiji, and yes she
0:36
Speaker 2: was a cheerleader. Yes he plays NRL. But this is
0:38
Speaker 2: a match made in heaven.
0:40
Speaker 3: Yes, we talk about all things. Growing up in the area,
0:44
Speaker 3: also having twins, growing.
0:45
Speaker 1: Up in what area? That's what they call the Area's
0:48
Speaker 1: what's the area? Ash?
0:49
Speaker 3: Oh my god, in the area.
0:52
Speaker 1: What's the area?
0:56
Speaker 2: You want to say that, or you wanted to say
0:57
Speaker 2: they talk about the area?
1:00
Speaker 1: Take her different again, I guess, but.
1:02
Speaker 4: No one's going to get that.
1:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone knows the area. What's the area? Anyway? Yes,
1:09
Speaker 1: we talk all things love.
1:11
Speaker 3: Rugby league, cheerleading, and twins and the area I.
1:15
Speaker 1: Don't like being more.
1:16
Speaker 2: Her road to motherhood wasn't without its hiccups. She did
1:19
Speaker 2: feel pregnant, which sadly did end in a miscarriage, but
1:22
Speaker 2: the story does have a beautiful ending because she has
1:24
Speaker 2: welcomed too beautiful twins. Just quickly, before we get into
1:27
Speaker 2: the episode, I spotted Taylor on a footy show on
1:31
Speaker 2: Fox and she was hilarious doing an interview with her partner,
1:35
Speaker 2: and I thought, we have to get her on the podcast.
1:37
Speaker 1: So this one is going to be a lot of fun.
1:38
Speaker 1: She is hilarious.
1:39
Speaker 5: Strap yourself in, listen do it.
1:56
Speaker 2: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mom.
1:58
Speaker 2: I am Maddie, Jay.
2:00
Speaker 6: I'm Ash, I'm Taylor.
2:06
Speaker 1: Is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
2:09
Speaker 1: it is the bad, and the relatable and Tay.
2:12
Speaker 4: Taylor Tane Yeah yeah, a friends here.
2:18
Speaker 2: We don't give advice, but you're more than welcome to
2:21
Speaker 2: I guess you're is this the first mother of twins?
2:25
Speaker 1: This is?
2:28
Speaker 2: And also I have to apologize because you've been sitting
2:31
Speaker 2: here fuck for half an hour. Literally, I honestly I apologize.
2:36
Speaker 1: Will all share the responsibility?
2:38
Speaker 4: No, I love it. This is like a holiday for me, guys,
2:40
Speaker 4: So take your time.
2:42
Speaker 3: We were just talking about being in the car on
2:43
Speaker 3: the way anywhere without the kid.
2:46
Speaker 6: It's better than the same, yeah, literally, especially now, Yeah,
2:49
Speaker 6: because you can be like, I'm gonna do you turn
2:51
Speaker 6: the road off?
2:52
Speaker 1: We see her in silence.
2:54
Speaker 2: You can, but we're taking away from like alone time
2:57
Speaker 2: for take because she's just been sitting here as we've been.
2:59
Speaker 1: Like the last Oh god, apologies, no please.
3:06
Speaker 3: And we do like to start these episodes with our
3:08
Speaker 3: guests by asking them a question about their childhood, and
3:12
Speaker 3: we want to know, what's the most trouble you ever
3:14
Speaker 3: got in as a child slash teenager?
3:17
Speaker 7: Hmm?
3:19
Speaker 4: I was. I was like a pretty chill kid.
3:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe that for a secon.
3:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, like to be honest, well, probably like around year nine,
3:32
Speaker 6: year ten is when I kind of was like, oh cool, Yeah,
3:35
Speaker 6: so that was when I probably started getting grounded. The
3:38
Speaker 6: first time would have been a New Year's Eve party
3:42
Speaker 6: in the area. It was a boy's house from high
3:44
Speaker 6: school and my mom was like, you can go, but
3:47
Speaker 6: there's parents, right, And I was like, yeah, obviously, like
3:50
Speaker 6: who would leave a bunch of fourteen year olds by
3:52
Speaker 6: themselves on?
3:54
Speaker 4: And then so I went to this New Year's Eve party.
3:56
Speaker 6: We call them gatheros in the Shire. It would be
4:03
Speaker 6: like a bonfire in some random guy's backyard and then
4:06
Speaker 6: you just sit around, yeah, like a townhouse.
4:11
Speaker 1: Yeah it's summer.
4:17
Speaker 6: And then like the whole week, people be like, you're
4:18
Speaker 6: going to go to the gather this week and I'm like, yeah,
4:20
Speaker 6: I'm going to the gather.
4:21
Speaker 4: And then so I went watched the fireworks there, a
4:26
Speaker 4: bit of underage drinking was going on.
4:28
Speaker 1: It's a very big and.
4:32
Speaker 6: I thought everything went well. I thought I came home unscathed.
4:35
Speaker 6: And then turns out the boy that had the party,
4:38
Speaker 6: his older brother, was in the same year as my
4:40
Speaker 6: older brother, and they got talking one day and then
4:44
Speaker 6: my brother snitched and goes to you know, there wasn't
4:46
Speaker 6: parents are that much. And then so my mom played
4:52
Speaker 6: the long game and came up to me that day
4:54
Speaker 6: and was like, so, is there anything you want to
4:57
Speaker 6: tell me? And I was like like no, like I
4:59
Speaker 6: had a.
5:00
Speaker 1: Really good time any inkling that she.
5:02
Speaker 6: Knew because I thought my brother always had my back
5:05
Speaker 6: as well.
5:05
Speaker 3: It was such a loaded question too, is Matthew, is
5:08
Speaker 3: there anything that you want to tell me?
5:09
Speaker 1: Literally?
5:10
Speaker 6: And I'm like, god like and like this is going
5:12
Speaker 6: to sound really harsh to myself, but I wasn't one
5:14
Speaker 6: of those girls at high school with all the boys
5:16
Speaker 6: like don't want it.
5:18
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, so, I was.
5:21
Speaker 4: Like, look at me.
5:23
Speaker 6: I didn't get with anyone at the gather. I was like,
5:26
Speaker 6: it wouldn't have been that. And then she was like, well,
5:29
Speaker 6: I've heard there was no parents and I was like
5:31
Speaker 6: there were And then like what made it worse was
5:33
Speaker 6: I doubled down and told her stories where I was
5:36
Speaker 6: like they ordered us pizza the parents literally and she
5:40
Speaker 6: was like I'm going to give you like five seconds
5:42
Speaker 6: now to just confess. And I was like, okay, there's
5:44
Speaker 6: no parents, and she was like, you grounded for the
5:46
Speaker 6: rest of summer holidays. So then like for the rest
5:49
Speaker 6: of the school holidays, I had to make up excuses
5:50
Speaker 6: why don't want to hang out with my friends, Like
5:54
Speaker 6: my friends didn't come from a strict parent Like I'm like,
5:58
Speaker 6: my background's Italians, my mom dad are pretty street and
6:02
Speaker 6: the like, all my friends didn't really like parents were
6:04
Speaker 6: pretty chill. So every time I got an invite, I
6:06
Speaker 6: was like, oh, no, like that sounds pretty lame.
6:08
Speaker 4: I'm going to watch Jersey.
6:12
Speaker 2: Literally in the last few months Getady gather.
6:20
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love how like like back like then, parents
6:24
Speaker 8: were so patient to play the longer.
6:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids.
6:27
Speaker 6: And I'm like, seriously now already like thinking about obviously
6:32
Speaker 6: my girls are only nine months old. But if I
6:35
Speaker 6: was to think of that them in that situation, mate,
6:38
Speaker 6: I would have me going at them. I'd call my mom,
6:41
Speaker 6: I'd call my husband. You are never leaving the house again.
6:44
Speaker 4: I did it?
6:45
Speaker 1: Did you get your brother back at all?
6:47
Speaker 6: I like literally was like, what the hell was that about?
6:49
Speaker 6: And he's like, well, I don't like those group of
6:50
Speaker 6: people you're hanging out with.
6:52
Speaker 1: So maybe he saved you.
6:53
Speaker 6: Actually yeah maybe actually, but yeah, and look like, to
6:58
Speaker 6: be honest, I don't hang out with those people anymore.
7:00
Speaker 1: So there you go.
7:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, long bay.
7:07
Speaker 1: A big gather in prison all together.
7:12
Speaker 2: I'm actually interested to know how does someone get into cheerleading?
7:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, great question.
7:18
Speaker 6: So I grew up dancing my whole life, and I
7:22
Speaker 6: always aspired to be a Dallas Cowboy's Chileader.
7:24
Speaker 4: That was end game for me.
7:27
Speaker 6: And then probably around fifteen years old, I realized I
7:30
Speaker 6: don't have the flexibility that's going to get me there,
7:32
Speaker 6: but I'll kind of aim for the NROL and see
7:35
Speaker 6: how Yeah, and I don't want to talk about my
7:39
Speaker 6: brother again, but pretty much, he was at a gavo
7:41
Speaker 6: and there was a Bulldogs cheerleader at the party and
7:44
Speaker 6: he goes, what does my sister have to do to
7:45
Speaker 6: get in the squad? And the chillier at the time goes,
7:48
Speaker 6: we actually got auditions this week, like if she's keen.
7:50
Speaker 6: So I went to the audition, got in. I was
7:53
Speaker 6: eighteen at the time. Yeah, and I got in, and
7:57
Speaker 6: then yeah, the rest was history.
7:59
Speaker 1: Kind of what was audition like?
8:01
Speaker 6: It was pretty chill at the time, like nothing like
8:03
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cabos chierleaders.
8:05
Speaker 4: I'm like, god, like, have you guys watched that show?
8:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
8:09
Speaker 4: Like more than what an NFL player would have to do.
8:13
Speaker 6: So yeah, I just kind of got in and then
8:15
Speaker 6: did that for three years, but two years in I
8:19
Speaker 6: decided to fratnize with the player.
8:21
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I've heard can I ask is there
8:26
Speaker 2: any attraction to the world of cheerleading because of the
8:31
Speaker 2: connection to the players.
8:32
Speaker 6: I would say for me personally, yeah.
8:35
Speaker 9: I.
8:38
Speaker 6: Don't want to talk on behalf of other cheerleaders who
8:40
Speaker 6: were there to do it because they're so talented.
8:42
Speaker 4: And that was their dreams around it. There are there
8:46
Speaker 4: absolutely are.
8:48
Speaker 1: Do they say, hey, do not do not look at
8:51
Speaker 1: the players.
8:51
Speaker 10: Yeah.
8:52
Speaker 6: So like at the time, I don't know what it's
8:54
Speaker 6: like now, but because I was ten years ago. Now,
8:56
Speaker 6: in the contract that you sign, it's like not fragnizing
8:59
Speaker 6: with players.
9:00
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, that's fine.
9:01
Speaker 6: Because when I met Marcello, he wasn't an NRL player,
9:04
Speaker 6: was under twenties.
9:06
Speaker 4: I was like, that's fine, Like if anything, they'll appreciate.
9:09
Speaker 1: So it's actually that like NRL players off limits. Yeah.
9:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of weird, right because my parents met
9:16
Speaker 6: at work, so they do Quantus who was the pilot,
9:26
Speaker 6: Where did.
9:26
Speaker 1: You guys meet you? And myself?
9:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I would see him around like in the
9:31
Speaker 6: sheds and stuff, and I always thought like the first
9:33
Speaker 6: time I saw him, I was like, holy ship, they
9:35
Speaker 6: did not make men like that in the ship.
9:38
Speaker 4: I've never seen someone like tall, dark and handsome like that.
9:42
Speaker 4: I don't know, he just like to be by surprise.
9:44
Speaker 6: And the gather, but he kind of gives off really
9:53
Speaker 6: resting bitch face. So I was like, okay, like he's
9:56
Speaker 6: kind of rude, and I was like whatever, I'm not interested.
9:58
Speaker 6: And then the club at the time holds a dinner
10:02
Speaker 6: where the cheerleaders have dinner with the under twenties players.
10:05
Speaker 3: I was going to say, going to say, you have
10:09
Speaker 3: dinner with the dinner wat you just said we can't frightenize,
10:12
Speaker 3: and now you're putting us on speed.
10:14
Speaker 6: Dating literally, and it's like the purpose is to like
10:16
Speaker 6: have an etiquette dinner, and it's kind of like you
10:20
Speaker 6: like kind of have conversations and teach the boys and
10:23
Speaker 6: the girls kind of how to have etiquette.
10:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do it in the room.
10:29
Speaker 6: And I remember seeing him there and like he was
10:31
Speaker 6: talking to my friend and he was kind of like
10:34
Speaker 6: not giving me too much, so I was like, well,
10:36
Speaker 6: stuff him. But then he followed me on Instagram later
10:39
Speaker 6: that day, yeah, and I was like, okay, maybe he
10:42
Speaker 6: kind of did see something in me. And once the
10:44
Speaker 6: facilit but nothing happened. And then we ran into each other.
10:47
Speaker 4: At Cargo Bar. Yeah, and then you know, sparks flew
10:51
Speaker 4: from there.
10:53
Speaker 1: It was it's no longer around cargo.
10:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just more there's more food there now, Yeah,
11:00
Speaker 3: but less drives more food.
11:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.
11:03
Speaker 2: It's a well known night cliff anyone outside of the city, well,
11:05
Speaker 2: no night class.
11:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a couple of story story high.
11:09
Speaker 6: It was unreal back in the day, I'm pretty sure.
11:12
Speaker 6: Like now, I think they just celebrated their like twenty
11:14
Speaker 6: fifth birthday or something. I don't know why I know that,
11:19
Speaker 6: but yeah, it looks it looks like we have a
11:21
Speaker 6: gone that's kind of not our vibe anymore, unfortunately.
11:23
Speaker 2: But yeah, and then was it your first day at
11:27
Speaker 2: hogs bread correct.
11:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he is from I go to hogs Breadth.
11:33
Speaker 4: We're very classy.
11:34
Speaker 6: So he at the time was living in Liverpool and
11:38
Speaker 6: I was in Crenulla. So I thought it was big
11:41
Speaker 6: props to him that he was like, oh, come out to.
11:43
Speaker 4: You, I'll come pick you up.
11:44
Speaker 6: And I know that's kind of people probably listen going,
11:46
Speaker 6: that's that should be standard.
11:48
Speaker 4: Back then, I was like this is crazy, Like, oh
11:52
Speaker 4: my goodness.
11:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
11:53
Speaker 6: And so he pulled up at my house and I
11:55
Speaker 6: was about to leave and my mum was like, where
11:57
Speaker 6: the hell do you think you're going.
11:58
Speaker 4: I was like oh like bread. Yeah, that's the boy.
12:03
Speaker 6: There's a boy out here waiting for me. And she's like, oh, like,
12:07
Speaker 6: you know, he should really come to the door. And
12:08
Speaker 6: I was like I'm not going to fucking make him
12:10
Speaker 6: come to the door, mum, and I just left, bolted,
12:12
Speaker 6: got in his car and suddenly this smell just hit
12:16
Speaker 6: me and.
12:16
Speaker 4: I was like, holy ship. And he had that black
12:19
Speaker 4: ice air freshener.
12:21
Speaker 6: And I never smelled that before, and I was like,
12:24
Speaker 6: holy crap, this guy has like game.
12:26
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
12:28
Speaker 1: It's like the.
12:29
Speaker 6: Equivalent of leaks Africa literally literally, and I was like, oh,
12:33
Speaker 6: okay cool. And then from that moment, I'm like it
12:35
Speaker 6: was just a dream that date, like Hoggs Bread, curly Fries.
12:39
Speaker 11: Oh.
12:42
Speaker 6: They still haven't definitely not in Crenella anymore, unfortunately.
12:46
Speaker 1: Not INNA.
12:48
Speaker 2: They're still around in Brisbane. I think they're still doing
12:51
Speaker 2: well in Brisbane. But yeah, damn shame hard to get traction.
12:56
Speaker 1: I went to one in Dubbo Ones It was terrible, shame.
13:00
Speaker 3: Sorry he still existing, but remember all the old ads
13:05
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, Like it was just like Similars Sizzlovie.
13:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, miss Siler. That's another story.
13:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember the moment that Marcello proposed to you?
13:19
Speaker 4: Yeah?
13:20
Speaker 1: I do.
13:20
Speaker 6: So I had been begging him for a proposal for
13:24
Speaker 6: a while because we were together from the moment I
13:27
Speaker 6: was eighteen, he was nineteen, and then like we were
13:30
Speaker 6: coming up to like twenty five years old and still
13:32
Speaker 6: nothing had happened, and all our friends were getting engaged.
13:35
Speaker 6: I know you shouldn't compare, but it's hard not to
13:38
Speaker 6: an your bloody bridesmaids freaking five times a year.
13:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so he was like to.
13:43
Speaker 6: Me, I was I was graduating from my degree at
13:45
Speaker 6: the time. So my mum had organized this big family
13:48
Speaker 6: dinner and he was like, I'm going to take you
13:51
Speaker 6: to a hotel before the dinner to.
13:52
Speaker 4: Celebrate your graduation. I was like, okay, cool before dinner.
13:56
Speaker 9: Yeah.
13:57
Speaker 6: I was like I didn't even think much of it,
13:59
Speaker 6: and like the I was increnal, and he took me
14:00
Speaker 6: the four Seasons in the city.
14:02
Speaker 4: I was like, this is.
14:08
Speaker 6: And my mom I don't know why, but she thought
14:10
Speaker 6: I was kind of getting suspicious.
14:12
Speaker 4: So she took me for a walk one day and
14:14
Speaker 4: was like, you know, like Marcella's graduation present, it's pretty huge.
14:18
Speaker 6: It's like you've been dreaming of and I was like,
14:20
Speaker 6: oh my god, yeah, you got your French bulldog.
14:23
Speaker 4: And I was like, did you want that idea? But yeah,
14:26
Speaker 4: and I was.
14:26
Speaker 1: I didn't want to.
14:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear all the issues on Jesus Christ uninsurable.
14:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I was like really, and she's like yeah,
14:36
Speaker 6: Like don't don't let him know that I told you,
14:38
Speaker 6: but yeah, you got a French And.
14:39
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god.
14:41
Speaker 2: She's like I get what she's doing, but it's an
14:44
Speaker 2: interesting setup. She's taking on a different path.
14:48
Speaker 4: Yeah.
14:48
Speaker 6: I wasn't suspicious though, so I was like, I don't
14:51
Speaker 6: understand why she needed to do that, but yeah, it
14:54
Speaker 6: seems to.
14:54
Speaker 1: Be like why are you telling you? Don't worry? I
14:59
Speaker 1: got you back.
15:01
Speaker 4: Start.
15:02
Speaker 6: So he took me to this hotel and like he
15:04
Speaker 6: was like, oh, we'll take you up to the room,
15:06
Speaker 6: but I'm going to blindfold and I was like, well, obviously,
15:08
Speaker 6: because there's a French bull so many questions, but blindfolded
15:16
Speaker 6: me opened the door and then there was music playing
15:18
Speaker 6: our favorite song at the time, and then what so
15:22
Speaker 6: freagain Forever Love by God, I'm not going to pronounce
15:27
Speaker 6: your name correctly.
15:27
Speaker 4: It's a new Keywi singer can singer.
15:34
Speaker 1: Right now?
15:48
Speaker 6: So he under the blindfold and then Yet said will
15:51
Speaker 6: you marry me? In balloons on the window? And then
15:54
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, yes, and I'm looking around.
15:56
Speaker 6: I was like, where's the door and he was like
16:00
Speaker 6: like look dog and I was like, mom said you
16:02
Speaker 6: got me French ballt on. He's like you want to
16:03
Speaker 6: fucking ring and the French boar was like fifteen k
16:08
Speaker 6: and it's uninsurable.
16:10
Speaker 4: And then and he was like what would your mom
16:12
Speaker 4: tell you that? And I was like I don't know.
16:14
Speaker 4: And then he's like what fuck. I'm happy, but like
16:17
Speaker 4: okay the.
16:19
Speaker 6: Dog and then yeah, so that was the that was
16:25
Speaker 6: the proposal.
16:26
Speaker 3: And and then you had to go to the family
16:28
Speaker 3: dinner afterwards. Yeah, that was the reason for the hotel
16:31
Speaker 3: before exactly done that.
16:34
Speaker 1: Yeah in traffic.
16:35
Speaker 6: And I think he knows like I because he originally
16:38
Speaker 6: said I'll do it in front of all her family
16:40
Speaker 6: at the dinner. And then I was like, if that
16:44
Speaker 6: is ever a thing, do not fucking do it in
16:45
Speaker 6: front of my family, Like I just it would be
16:48
Speaker 6: a whole thing with them and his family, and it's
16:51
Speaker 6: just like a lot.
16:53
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like we were talking about if someone sings
16:55
Speaker 8: me haavy birthday in public, that is why he was
16:58
Speaker 8: literally if was like back in the day, or you
17:01
Speaker 8: can only propose me in front of my family, I'll
17:03
Speaker 8: be like, well.
17:03
Speaker 1: Sawyer absolutely like credits to people who do it at restaurants. Yeah,
17:11
Speaker 1: another credit, do it somewhere.
17:12
Speaker 2: Else between you and Marcelo, who was the person who
17:16
Speaker 2: started talking about having a family.
17:18
Speaker 6: First, Yeah, definitely Marcello's Yeah, so like again the big
17:22
Speaker 6: Fiji and background, he's kind of always wanted to have kids,
17:26
Speaker 6: probably earlier than later, and because we were together from
17:30
Speaker 6: the age of eighteen, he was probably like I don't know,
17:33
Speaker 6: like twenty two and ready, but he was very Yeah,
17:37
Speaker 6: he was very respectable.
17:39
Speaker 4: I'm respectful so for my career and kind of where
17:41
Speaker 4: I was. I was not ready at twenty two. I'm
17:43
Speaker 4: barely ready now.
17:45
Speaker 1: Does he have a lot of siblings and he does, He's.
17:47
Speaker 6: One of four and then he's got mate that many cousins,
17:51
Speaker 6: Like I can't keep up, Like yeah, pretty much.
17:53
Speaker 4: You go to Fiji mentioned his name, I will do that.
18:01
Speaker 6: So yeah, he was like not pastoring me, but he's
18:04
Speaker 6: always wanted that. And I'd be like hold your horses,
18:07
Speaker 6: like because in NRL as well, there it's kind of different,
18:11
Speaker 6: like they peak in this incredible career that they've dreamed
18:14
Speaker 6: of and work so hard for so early on, whereas
18:17
Speaker 6: for other people, like in your twenties, you're just getting
18:20
Speaker 6: started and you've got to kind of work your way
18:22
Speaker 6: up the ladder and make your name literally literally. So
18:26
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to do that. That
18:27
Speaker 6: would be so hard for me to get back in
18:29
Speaker 6: the workplace. And so yeah, he was very respective, unrespectful,
18:33
Speaker 6: and yeah, eventually we got there in the end. Anyway,
18:36
Speaker 6: So I was trying to fall pregnant, so we'd like
18:40
Speaker 6: kind of bits and pieces.
18:42
Speaker 4: So I was on the pill for.
18:43
Speaker 6: Ten years and I'd heard my whole life that's going
18:46
Speaker 6: to stuff you up really bad. So as soon as
18:48
Speaker 6: we got married, I got off it, not to necessarily
18:50
Speaker 6: start trying, but just to kind of like learn my
18:53
Speaker 6: body again, because you don't realize what the pill does
18:57
Speaker 6: to you.
18:58
Speaker 4: Like this is going to sound so crazy, but tell us.
19:01
Speaker 6: Coming off the pill, I was like, oh my god,
19:03
Speaker 6: I don't remember feeling happy in ten years now, Like.
19:06
Speaker 4: It gets to that, like it's it's crazy. It's a
19:09
Speaker 4: weird feeling, especially for.
19:11
Speaker 1: Like young man.
19:12
Speaker 3: We don't at that age, like even now, I'm only
19:15
Speaker 3: learning about all this yeah, and all the different variations
19:18
Speaker 3: and all the different things that it can potentially do
19:20
Speaker 3: to the female boy, but he would have had any
19:22
Speaker 3: idea what that was.
19:24
Speaker 6: And then so when I came off the pill, suddenly
19:25
Speaker 6: like I dropped all this weight because you hold onto
19:28
Speaker 6: a lot of water, and I was happier, like less tired,
19:32
Speaker 6: and he's like, holy crap, like this is like the
19:34
Speaker 6: real you know.
19:35
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, like if you love me, then
19:40
Speaker 4: so I got off it.
19:41
Speaker 6: And then we were married for two years at the time,
19:43
Speaker 6: and went for an off season trip to Hawaii and
19:47
Speaker 6: then I don't know, one drunken night in Hawaii, like
19:49
Speaker 6: fell pregnant luckily, and then but unfortunately that pregnancy ended
19:54
Speaker 6: in a miscarriage. Yeah, thank you. So it was kind
19:58
Speaker 6: of like a weird, weird, very rare pregnancy. So two
20:03
Speaker 6: sperms went in the one egg, so it was a
20:06
Speaker 6: partial mol of pregnancy, and you don't really like, I'm
20:11
Speaker 6: lucky in a way that normally when you have a
20:13
Speaker 6: miscarriage is a lot that doctors can't tell you what happened.
20:17
Speaker 6: Like you'll get a generic answer like oh, this is
20:20
Speaker 6: very common, like one in four women have it, and
20:22
Speaker 6: you're like kind of like, well, that kind of doesn't
20:24
Speaker 6: help me sleep at nights because I'm like, hey, how
20:26
Speaker 6: do I avoid this?
20:26
Speaker 4: Like what the fuck? But luckily, luckily for me, I.
20:31
Speaker 6: Got the surgery to remove the tissue and they were
20:34
Speaker 6: able to test it and find out that two sperms
20:38
Speaker 6: entered the one egg.
20:38
Speaker 2: So when you had your miscarriage, what test did they
20:42
Speaker 2: do to find that out?
20:43
Speaker 6: So when I got it's called like this DNC, So
20:46
Speaker 6: they remove the tissue or unsuccessful embryo I guess, and
20:51
Speaker 6: they take that off to a lab and test it
20:53
Speaker 6: and that's how they found out.
20:55
Speaker 4: So it was crazy.
20:57
Speaker 3: So okay, if, for example, and this is excuse my ignorance,
21:01
Speaker 3: if there was no miscarriage and you continued on that pregnancy,
21:06
Speaker 3: and how is there a stageling there that you would
21:09
Speaker 3: ever have known that you had or was that the
21:12
Speaker 3: like I mean, like I'm.
21:13
Speaker 6: Trying to figure yeah, Like it's honestly, I'd never heard about.
21:17
Speaker 6: So it happens in one percent of pregnancy, so it's
21:20
Speaker 6: extremely rare.
21:21
Speaker 1: It is rare.
21:22
Speaker 6: I think it's like one in twelve hundred pregnancies. Like,
21:25
Speaker 6: so what happens is the chromosome. It's got to triple
21:28
Speaker 6: the amount of chromosomes as to what needed pretty much. So,
21:32
Speaker 6: but the weird thing about it is once they remove it.
21:36
Speaker 6: So when I found out, I got a call from
21:38
Speaker 6: the gynecologists on Christmas Day, and I was like, why
21:42
Speaker 6: is this guy calling me?
21:43
Speaker 2: Because I had kind of what kind of gynocologist Christmas for.
21:47
Speaker 6: All I knew at the time was Okay, I was pregnant,
21:50
Speaker 6: and at ten weeks I went for an ultrasound and
21:53
Speaker 6: the heart wasn't beating, so they removed it. That's all
21:56
Speaker 6: I thought. I thought I'd never find out answers. I
21:58
Speaker 6: thought they'd be like, it was just a miscarriage whatever.
22:01
Speaker 6: And then so when I got a call on Christmas Day,
22:03
Speaker 6: he was like, okay, so yours is a bit different.
22:06
Speaker 4: It's a partial mole of pregnancy.
22:07
Speaker 6: Two sperms went in the one egg, so I'm going
22:10
Speaker 6: to need you to do all these things to me.
22:11
Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my god, Like I'm kind
22:12
Speaker 6: of just still dealing with the fact that I've had
22:14
Speaker 6: a miscarriage, Like what do you mean and he's like,
22:17
Speaker 6: so pretty much because it's formed an abnormal cyst is
22:21
Speaker 6: pretty much what they called it. It can continue to
22:24
Speaker 6: grow if all of it wasn't removed, and to like
22:27
Speaker 6: get rid of it, you need chemotherapy.
22:30
Speaker 4: And I was like, holy shit, what do you mean,
22:32
Speaker 4: Like like I'm trying to deal with Christmas lunch and
22:36
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't understand.
22:37
Speaker 6: I'm asking all these questions and he's like, sent me
22:40
Speaker 6: this article treat He's like, this article will explain it
22:44
Speaker 6: better than I can, because he's like it's just such
22:46
Speaker 6: a rare thing.
22:47
Speaker 4: Trap your head around.
22:49
Speaker 6: So then, pretty much from that phone call, as soon
22:51
Speaker 6: as labs opened up again, I had to go for
22:53
Speaker 6: weekly blood tests to make sure my hCG was lowering,
22:58
Speaker 6: because if it wasn't, then would show my body would
23:00
Speaker 6: still think I was pregnant and growing this abnormal tissue
23:04
Speaker 6: and then would have to go through chemotherapy.
23:06
Speaker 1: That's why.
23:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, At the same time as dealing with all of that,
23:10
Speaker 2: for people who haven't had a miscarriage or experience that
23:14
Speaker 2: situation with their partner, there's a real emotional whiplash because
23:17
Speaker 2: you going, oh my god, I'm pregnant.
23:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, quickly going.
23:21
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this life I was imagining is now completely
23:24
Speaker 2: taken away. How did you deal with the emotions of
23:26
Speaker 2: finding out you had a miscarriage?
23:28
Speaker 6: Oh, like, honestly, like you said, we weren't those people
23:31
Speaker 6: that thought we're going to wait till twelve weeks to
23:34
Speaker 6: tell people I'm pregnant, like the test said, like so
23:37
Speaker 6: why why wait?
23:39
Speaker 4: So we were.
23:39
Speaker 6: Telling my family, his family, like my close friends, and
23:43
Speaker 6: you get wrapped up in that excitement because it's a
23:45
Speaker 6: beautiful thing. Everyone's excited for you, and you want to
23:48
Speaker 6: be you want to share that enjoyment with people, and
23:50
Speaker 6: then to then yeah, miscarry and then go through that.
23:55
Speaker 6: So at the time, we're in New Zealand, just me
23:57
Speaker 6: and my husband, no family around there or from Sydney.
23:59
Speaker 6: So I guess in a way we really leaned on
24:03
Speaker 6: each other. And like, I know he wouldn't mind me
24:06
Speaker 6: saying this, but he probably struggled a.
24:08
Speaker 4: Bit more than I did.
24:10
Speaker 6: I think because it's my body and I kind of
24:13
Speaker 6: can grasp what's happening a bit more, whereas like the male,
24:18
Speaker 6: like you've contributed to this thing, but you're removed from it.
24:24
Speaker 6: So but it's like, but hang on, so like was
24:26
Speaker 6: it real like kind of thing. So he kind of
24:29
Speaker 6: tackled a bit more than me, but we were just
24:32
Speaker 6: there for each other and really leaned on each other.
24:34
Speaker 6: And honestly, like this is gonna sound weird, but like
24:38
Speaker 6: a dog, like the amount of happiness that dog brought me,
24:41
Speaker 6: because my husband was during pre season, so he's still
24:44
Speaker 6: going to work every day and I had no family around,
24:47
Speaker 6: so be me and my sausage dog, and like I'd
24:50
Speaker 6: be crying on the couch watching bloody Vanda punt rules
24:53
Speaker 6: and then heat out of nowhere like fart and I
24:56
Speaker 6: just like.
24:56
Speaker 4: Laugh like things like that.
24:58
Speaker 1: I'm to go through that.
25:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, But yeah, it must be isolating to
25:02
Speaker 3: being in a different country. Yeah, New Zealand. And there's
25:05
Speaker 3: there's players over there in the team. Yeah they have
25:08
Speaker 3: partis and stuff, but they're not you.
25:10
Speaker 1: They're not you. Yeah yeah your group, Yeah exactly.
25:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not at the gather and like there's only
25:17
Speaker 6: so much, like your mom can be there for you
25:20
Speaker 6: over FaceTime as well, Like my mom and dad would
25:22
Speaker 6: FaceTime me like every two hours pretty much knowing that
25:25
Speaker 6: Muscella was at work all day.
25:27
Speaker 2: There's something about being overseas and away from your family.
25:30
Speaker 1: That just heighten every emotion.
25:32
Speaker 2: I can't imagine experiencing something like a miscarriagter.
25:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, full on.
25:39
Speaker 3: We've spoken to people that have had miscarriages before and
25:41
Speaker 3: the anxiety going into it again.
25:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:43
Speaker 3: How long after the after you found out, you decide,
25:47
Speaker 3: to lack of a better term, get back on the horse.
25:50
Speaker 10: Yeah.
25:50
Speaker 6: Well literally, Like I've got an obsessive personality, so to
25:54
Speaker 6: be pregnant and then have it taken away from you.
25:57
Speaker 6: I went from being like, oh, kids, it'll happen when
25:59
Speaker 6: it happened, to them being like no, fuck this, Like
26:02
Speaker 6: I just had that, like.
26:03
Speaker 4: I want it, like I want I want it back.
26:06
Speaker 6: But our obstecution because of the type of miscarriage I had,
26:10
Speaker 6: was like, it's not advised to start trying within six
26:14
Speaker 6: months to a year because there's a higher chance of
26:17
Speaker 6: complications now. And I was like, yeah, that's fine. So
26:21
Speaker 6: I was like, what can I do to control this
26:23
Speaker 6: situation if I can? So I went to naturopaths and acupuncture,
26:27
Speaker 6: and because my cycle TM, I sorry, guys, my cycle
26:31
Speaker 6: went from being like perfect to then getting this miscarriage.
26:36
Speaker 6: So then going to like forty days, and I was like, well,
26:38
Speaker 6: that's not healthy, Like what's going on with me? So
26:41
Speaker 6: I was just stress stress stress. I went on all
26:43
Speaker 6: whole foods diet, which I'd love a bit of that
26:45
Speaker 6: now because I'd love that determination because now you see
26:49
Speaker 6: what I eat. But so I kind of just tried
26:52
Speaker 6: to control things like that, but got quite obsessive. So
26:56
Speaker 6: then the minute I kind of was like, you're being
26:58
Speaker 6: an idiot now just and relaxed. Then I felt pregnant again. Naturally.
27:05
Speaker 4: God. I miscarried in November. I fell in March.
27:09
Speaker 1: Wow.
27:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I remember ringing my obstecution.
27:12
Speaker 1: He was like, I.
27:13
Speaker 7: Said, and he was like really And I was like
27:18
Speaker 7: well yeah, and he's like, okay, we're gonna have to
27:20
Speaker 7: get a blood test immediately and then bring you in
27:23
Speaker 7: for a scan to make sure it's not that same
27:26
Speaker 7: tissue like.
27:27
Speaker 4: And I was like, fuck me, dad, nothing's ever straightforward.
27:30
Speaker 6: Like I was like, let me just enjoy this moment.
27:32
Speaker 6: But yeah, So like four or five months later, yeah.
27:36
Speaker 2: Wow, And so how do you find out what was
27:39
Speaker 2: this situation where you I told the news that you
27:42
Speaker 2: were carrying twins?
27:43
Speaker 4: It was crazy, man.
27:44
Speaker 6: So at the time Marcello had just flown back to
27:48
Speaker 6: Sydney to think they were versing dragons or something. So
27:52
Speaker 6: I was home by myself in New Zealand and I
27:54
Speaker 6: told my mom I was pregnant. I was like, well,
27:56
Speaker 6: I'm going for the first scan at six weeks because
27:58
Speaker 6: my HGG is really high. So they kind of worried
28:01
Speaker 6: and she was like okay, cool. Didn't say anything. The
28:04
Speaker 6: day before the skin, some people knock at my door
28:07
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I don't answer doors, especially when les
28:09
Speaker 6: it's not home. I just no one come see me.
28:11
Speaker 6: So I'm like sitting like watching the Telly for ten
28:15
Speaker 6: minutes and these people are knocking, knocking, knocking, and I'm like,
28:18
Speaker 6: oh my god, they're persistent. And I opened the door
28:22
Speaker 6: literally a phone call.
28:24
Speaker 1: When someone knocks on our door and I'm not home.
28:26
Speaker 6: Someone at the door like, yeah, that's exactly like me.
28:33
Speaker 4: So yeah, finally over the dawns and my mom, my
28:35
Speaker 4: mom and dad.
28:37
Speaker 6: So they had surprised me to be with me door
28:41
Speaker 6: go away, get the back. So they had surprised me
28:46
Speaker 6: to come to the scan with me just in case.
28:49
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and then so we went to the scan
28:52
Speaker 6: and my dad was like, oh wait outside, I was like,
28:54
Speaker 6: that's a great idea because this early.
28:55
Speaker 4: On, they'll go internal.
28:56
Speaker 6: So you went outside and so me and mom in
29:00
Speaker 6: the chair and they went over the stomach at first,
29:02
Speaker 6: and she's like, oh, great news, like there's the heartbeat.
29:05
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, unreal because I never
29:07
Speaker 6: got to experience that the first time. So I was like, amazing,
29:11
Speaker 6: I'm on like cloud nine. My mom's crying. She's like, wow,
29:13
Speaker 6: a miracle.
29:15
Speaker 1: Amazing it is.
29:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so early on too, because that's six weeks.
29:20
Speaker 4: I was not. I thought it would just be like
29:22
Speaker 4: adult like the first time.
29:23
Speaker 6: And then so she was like, but I just want
29:26
Speaker 6: to take a closer look, you know, given your history.
29:28
Speaker 4: So yeah, literally said, She's like, go, I'm to your
29:32
Speaker 4: bladder and come back in.
29:33
Speaker 6: And then immediately, like my mom's body language sunk, I sunk,
29:36
Speaker 6: and then I come back and then get on the
29:39
Speaker 6: table and then she like goes internally and she's like, okay, yep,
29:43
Speaker 6: so I just want to confirm these the heartbeat.
29:44
Speaker 4: So we're all good there and I was like unreal.
29:46
Speaker 6: And she's like, but I just want to draw your
29:48
Speaker 6: attention to this area and I was like yeah, and
29:51
Speaker 6: like I don't know what, I'm looking at it, and
29:54
Speaker 6: then she's like, so heartbeat one and then you'll just
29:57
Speaker 6: see there's another heartbeat here.
29:59
Speaker 4: And literally before I could say anything, my mom's.
30:01
Speaker 9: Like, I'm like, holy shit, so come my bloody won't
30:12
Speaker 9: And I was like, what do you mean? And she's like,
30:15
Speaker 9: you're having twins, honey, And I was like, oh man,
30:18
Speaker 9: what And the lady doing the skins a twin mom herself.
30:22
Speaker 4: So I was like, that is like destiny.
30:24
Speaker 6: Because I said to her without thinking, I'm gonna need
30:26
Speaker 6: a bigger fucking card. She's like, no, honey, I had
30:29
Speaker 6: twins in a yarras your And then so like from
30:35
Speaker 6: that moment on, she was able to tell me they
30:38
Speaker 6: were identical twins. I don't know how, but she could
30:40
Speaker 6: see there was only one placenta, so that confirms it's identical.
30:45
Speaker 1: That's a question I had about the twins.
30:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, so one placenta, but you can have two if
30:50
Speaker 3: they're not identical.
30:51
Speaker 6: Yes, So fraternal is two placentas, like each baby gets
30:55
Speaker 6: their own placenta, which is luxury. And then in my case,
30:58
Speaker 6: there was one placenta, two sacks. So the way she
31:01
Speaker 6: said to me was they're in the same house, own bedroom,
31:05
Speaker 6: same bathroom.
31:06
Speaker 4: I was like, okay.
31:13
Speaker 6: So from that point on, like my mom's just a mess,
31:16
Speaker 6: like a combination of happy.
31:18
Speaker 4: Tears and like what the fuck.
31:19
Speaker 6: And then we walk out of the room and my
31:21
Speaker 6: dad looks at me and he sees my mom's face.
31:23
Speaker 6: He's like a ghost, bawling her eyes down. So he's like,
31:26
Speaker 6: oh my god, like what's happened. I was like, I'm
31:28
Speaker 6: having twins. And he's like, fuck.
31:30
Speaker 4: You, Taylor, You never serious. We have a very dark
31:34
Speaker 4: humor now fairly.
31:35
Speaker 6: And I was like, Dad, I'm having twins, and he's
31:37
Speaker 6: like I can't take you seriously.
31:39
Speaker 4: He's such a bullshit.
31:40
Speaker 6: And and then he looks at my mom and she's
31:44
Speaker 6: like she's had fucking and he's like yes, and everyone's
31:53
Speaker 6: looking at me. In New Zealand as well.
31:55
Speaker 4: People are very in.
31:57
Speaker 1: The New Zealand medical practice. There's three going off there.
32:01
Speaker 6: Literally everyone's like okay, so yeah, And then like the
32:07
Speaker 6: ride home, I was like to mom, We're gonna have
32:10
Speaker 6: to FaceTime Marcelo, like I can't keep this from him.
32:13
Speaker 4: They had just lost so he was in.
32:15
Speaker 6: A really crazy meeting like with the coach and all that,
32:18
Speaker 6: and they were kind of I think, getting like the review. Yeah,
32:22
Speaker 6: and then so he ran out and he didn't look
32:25
Speaker 6: very happy, and I was like, he was like, how
32:27
Speaker 6: did it all go? And I was like yeah, fine,
32:29
Speaker 6: and he's like, oh cool, and I was like yes,
32:31
Speaker 6: so we're having twins. And he was like, you're fucking
32:34
Speaker 6: kidding and I was like, no, we're having twins. He's like,
32:36
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to start playing Origin.
32:41
Speaker 1: Mon mask. We're going to some forward.
32:46
Speaker 6: But then so yeah, kind of just from that point on,
32:49
Speaker 6: because they were identical twins, I got the rundown straight away,
32:54
Speaker 6: fortnightly scans.
32:55
Speaker 4: From pretty much six weeks to full term.
32:57
Speaker 1: Was the birth straightforward?
32:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, straightforward as I could imagine twins. So the plan
33:03
Speaker 6: originally was to have the babies in New Zealand because
33:06
Speaker 6: my husband was contracted for the Warriors for a few
33:09
Speaker 6: more years. So like met with this beautiful obstetricia. He
33:13
Speaker 6: was pretty set on having a C section, and I
33:16
Speaker 6: kind of didn't really know much about either, so I
33:19
Speaker 6: was like whatever, safest, I don't really care. And then
33:22
Speaker 6: as my pregnancy progressed, everything was looking fine, and then
33:27
Speaker 6: Mussello ended up signing a deal with a club in
33:30
Speaker 6: Sydney when I was thirty two weeks pregnant with twins,
33:34
Speaker 6: which is great, it is great to come home to family,
33:37
Speaker 6: but not great in the fact that I was like
33:41
Speaker 6: not really no, so yeah.
33:43
Speaker 1: As soon as you said that.
33:46
Speaker 6: Threshold with high risk twins, like yeah. So when I
33:52
Speaker 6: got told that, I was like to my obstetrition hey mate,
33:55
Speaker 6: thanks for your help, like all.
33:56
Speaker 4: This pregnancy, but I'm a dip. Yeah, keep the money.
34:03
Speaker 6: Literally, I was like, please give me medical clearance. So
34:07
Speaker 6: he did one last scan on me and he was
34:09
Speaker 6: like it's fine, it's a three hour flight. Granted me
34:12
Speaker 6: medical clearance and then I was like, soiners we landed, like,
34:14
Speaker 6: let's find someone to deliver my babies and found this
34:17
Speaker 6: amazing obstetrician in Cogra who was like, if you want
34:22
Speaker 6: to do this vaginally, like I got you, let's do it.
34:25
Speaker 4: And I was like, shit, yeah, how.
34:27
Speaker 1: Does she got.
34:30
Speaker 6: Somefore I'm action up there out But I was like,
34:33
Speaker 6: because I was like to Mussel, I don't want to
34:35
Speaker 6: not drive for six weeks after, Like their job is
34:39
Speaker 6: like so intense, like they're never home rightly, so they're
34:42
Speaker 6: always training or traveling. And the time that I was
34:45
Speaker 6: due was right in the heart of pre season, and
34:48
Speaker 6: for like the NRL season, pre season is like the
34:52
Speaker 6: most intense. They're like out of the house by five am,
34:55
Speaker 6: home by seven. It's like the wildest thing. So I
34:58
Speaker 6: was like, I need to be able to drive, like
34:59
Speaker 6: just doctor's.
35:00
Speaker 4: Appointments things like that. So I was like, if I can, like,
35:03
Speaker 4: let's just do it. And then yeah.
35:05
Speaker 6: I didn't really think about that choice until I was
35:08
Speaker 6: in the birthing suite, couldn't sleep and had one woman.
35:12
Speaker 4: Push out one and I was like, I gotta fucking
35:15
Speaker 4: do this.
35:15
Speaker 6: Twice I was like, like, it's too late.
35:21
Speaker 4: But yeah, it ended up working out well.
35:24
Speaker 1: Section no vagina.
35:27
Speaker 4: Going through, thank you.
35:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, sorry sorry. I was like I was
35:33
Speaker 1: expecting anyway I could drive.
35:34
Speaker 6: Six weeks no, So yeah, that whole ordeal was God,
35:39
Speaker 6: it felt like a lifetime.
35:40
Speaker 4: But they were born eight minutes apart.
35:42
Speaker 1: So you mentioned, yeah, is that quick? I think so, yeah,
35:47
Speaker 1: I wonder how long it can actually get.
35:49
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think if it gets too long with twins,
35:51
Speaker 6: they will put you into an emergency Caesar.
35:54
Speaker 4: Because there was he did give me the rundown.
35:56
Speaker 6: You might be able to give birth vaginally for the
35:58
Speaker 6: first one, twin a and then we might cut you
36:00
Speaker 6: open for twin Ben want the bigger.
36:02
Speaker 3: One to come first, Yeah, and she didn't.
36:05
Speaker 6: The smaller one came first, head first, and then the
36:08
Speaker 6: second one came legs first and bigger.
36:13
Speaker 1: Going on.
36:14
Speaker 10: Yeah. I mentioned before that they were PREMI yeah weeks
36:17
Speaker 10: so quite lucky to be honest, thirty six weeks so
36:20
Speaker 10: pretty good, I was told because there was such a
36:23
Speaker 10: high risk identical more high risk because there's this thing
36:26
Speaker 10: called like one placenta.
36:28
Speaker 6: There's like, what could happen is the placenta starts to
36:30
Speaker 6: favor one baby, and then that's why you have to
36:33
Speaker 6: go for routine scans because the minute the growth starts
36:37
Speaker 6: to get kind of big, they're like, okay, the placenta's
36:41
Speaker 6: only kind of feeding one baby.
36:42
Speaker 4: Like we need to induce you now.
36:44
Speaker 6: Like people have had identical twins that like twenty eight weeks.
36:48
Speaker 3: Wow, yes, yes, yeah, I suppose like, yeah, the one
36:52
Speaker 3: just mal nurish.
36:53
Speaker 1: You don't want exactly I want that? And do they
36:55
Speaker 1: have to spend some time in Nico?
36:58
Speaker 6: Yeah?
36:58
Speaker 4: Yeah.
36:58
Speaker 6: So they thought they were a lot bigger than what
37:01
Speaker 6: they actually were. So when they were.
37:03
Speaker 1: Born did that before or after?
37:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, well literally, like my whole pregnancy. They're like they're
37:08
Speaker 4: they're right up there with singular babies.
37:10
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my god, I'm doing so well, like
37:12
Speaker 6: for someone with low iron.
37:13
Speaker 1: I'm like And then.
37:15
Speaker 6: When they were born, we were guessing, like the nurses
37:18
Speaker 6: like guess, like they only have to be over two
37:20
Speaker 6: point five to avoid specially ok And I.
37:21
Speaker 4: Was like that was that like four weeks ago?
37:24
Speaker 6: And then twin one ended up being born at one
37:27
Speaker 6: point eight and Milan at two point two, So like
37:30
Speaker 6: it went from like riding high to like, Okay, they're
37:32
Speaker 6: going to spend quite a while in special care.
37:36
Speaker 4: It ended up being three four weeks.
37:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go back and forth. Is that how
37:41
Speaker 1: it works?
37:42
Speaker 4: Yeah?
37:42
Speaker 1: Kind of.
37:43
Speaker 6: So for the first week they wanted me around like
37:47
Speaker 6: in the hospital like for your milk supply and bonding
37:50
Speaker 6: and stuff. But I mean bonding in the kniku. It's
37:53
Speaker 6: not the nicest there, Like it's.
37:57
Speaker 1: Like the bubble boy and sign film.
37:58
Speaker 6: Literally literally I wasn't allowed to touch them for about
38:03
Speaker 6: two days.
38:04
Speaker 4: And then after that they that's hard.
38:06
Speaker 6: It's so hard, And like I would even like sneak
38:10
Speaker 6: because they were in like like an incubator. I guess
38:14
Speaker 6: their legs I could touch, so when the nerve, like
38:17
Speaker 6: the midwife will by like touch their little leg and
38:19
Speaker 6: then the heart rate would like like go crazy would yeah.
38:23
Speaker 6: So then the midwife would come over and be like, look,
38:25
Speaker 6: I know you think you've got the magic touch, but
38:27
Speaker 6: we really can't be touched on.
38:28
Speaker 4: Them to the heart. And I was like, oh my god,
38:35
Speaker 4: like that's what it felt like and it's really dark room.
38:38
Speaker 1: And then what's that first hold line?
38:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I got I was lucky enough to get
38:43
Speaker 6: the first hold after giving birth. They gave me skin
38:46
Speaker 6: to skin, so but to be honest, like it's an
38:48
Speaker 6: outer body experience.
38:50
Speaker 4: In that moment, you don't really remember. I don't remember
38:52
Speaker 4: it now.
38:53
Speaker 6: So the special care though it was, it was beautiful,
38:57
Speaker 6: but terrifying because they were tiny, like when I'm like
39:02
Speaker 6: the size of my really yeah, not much bigger, Like
39:05
Speaker 6: I've even got this photo and I'm holding both of
39:07
Speaker 6: them and I'm covering them pretty much like it's just
39:09
Speaker 6: their head.
39:10
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
39:10
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
39:11
Speaker 6: So that like I was trying to be delicate, I'm
39:13
Speaker 6: not a delicate person. As you can see my hands
39:15
Speaker 6: are going ever literally and I'm like and I like,
39:20
Speaker 6: my babies were pretty much the first babies I really
39:22
Speaker 6: ever hearld And then you're kind of trying to not
39:25
Speaker 6: look awkward in front of these midwives because you're like,
39:27
Speaker 6: oh my god, they're going to think I'm like not
39:28
Speaker 6: capable of me.
39:30
Speaker 4: And then like, yeah, it was surreal, really surreal.
39:34
Speaker 1: So small.
39:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think back to when I had Marley,
39:39
Speaker 2: my first child, and I don't think anything can really
39:42
Speaker 2: prepare you for the newborn face. Yeah, you can kind
39:45
Speaker 2: of see little snippets of your friends and other family
39:47
Speaker 2: who've got a newborn.
39:49
Speaker 1: You can read the books.
39:49
Speaker 2: I didn't read your books, but until you're in the trenches,
39:53
Speaker 2: nothing why I prepares you for it?
39:55
Speaker 1: And then you've got two of them?
39:57
Speaker 4: What is that like? Same as you.
40:00
Speaker 6: It didn't hit me until that first night I gave birth.
40:03
Speaker 6: So the babies went away to special care. I got
40:06
Speaker 6: taken back up to the maternity ward, and I was
40:09
Speaker 6: just in a public hospital. So I'm sharing with like
40:10
Speaker 6: four other mothers, some age literally, so like some mothers
40:20
Speaker 6: have their newborn babies with them. Some are going into
40:23
Speaker 6: labor the next day, like and I'm just here no
40:25
Speaker 6: baby's in my stomach, No baby's by my bed, but
40:28
Speaker 6: I can hear babies crying, and I'm and like Marcella
40:31
Speaker 6: had to go home because he had worked.
40:32
Speaker 4: The next day at five am.
40:33
Speaker 6: So I was like literally on the bed and it
40:36
Speaker 6: all hit me and I just burst into tears, and
40:39
Speaker 6: I was like, you should have read a fucking book,
40:40
Speaker 6: you idiot. Like the whole time you're pregnant with twins, especially,
40:44
Speaker 6: people like how are you going to do it? Oh
40:45
Speaker 6: my god, one's hard enough, Oh my god. And I
40:47
Speaker 6: didn't think anything of it. I would just laugh those
40:49
Speaker 6: comments off. And then when I sat there on the bed,
40:52
Speaker 6: I was like, those motherfuckers were right.
40:54
Speaker 4: How am I going to do this?
40:56
Speaker 6: I was like, so I remember my obscitration like weeks ago.
41:00
Speaker 6: One of the appointments gave me, like a twins what
41:02
Speaker 6: to expect me, and I had it in my hospital back.
41:05
Speaker 6: So I was like, I'm going to read that and
41:07
Speaker 6: what to expect two of them, literally, and I'm sitting
41:10
Speaker 6: there reading and it's not a good leaflet to give
41:12
Speaker 6: to a mother because it goes into how high chance
41:15
Speaker 6: it is to get postnatal depression with twins and triplets.
41:19
Speaker 6: And all that, and I was like, well, okay, cool negative.
41:23
Speaker 6: So I kind of just like shove that to my
41:25
Speaker 6: side and was like, well I'm here now, like just
41:28
Speaker 6: get into it.
41:28
Speaker 4: And that was the start of a three four week.
41:31
Speaker 6: Journey of just getting to know them, like trying like
41:35
Speaker 6: trying to breastfeed, getting to know the other parents in
41:38
Speaker 6: special care, because oh my god, like that was eye opening,
41:42
Speaker 6: Like I was.
41:43
Speaker 4: We were very lucky that my twins.
41:45
Speaker 6: After the first couple of days, they were kind of
41:47
Speaker 6: just in there to learn how to feed because they
41:51
Speaker 6: was so small and learn how to breathe and feed
41:53
Speaker 6: at the same time. So they were put on caffeine
41:55
Speaker 6: for the first five days of their life. The babies
41:58
Speaker 6: were and I was like canos literally I was mine
42:02
Speaker 6: because I was having coffee all it literally Italian. So
42:09
Speaker 6: they were on caffeine and then after that it was
42:11
Speaker 6: kind of just like building them up. But some of
42:13
Speaker 6: the other parents in there, like there was another set
42:15
Speaker 6: of twins that were born at twenty seven weeks, and
42:19
Speaker 6: those poor babies were in and out of operations like
42:22
Speaker 6: every time, like every week I would go there, the
42:25
Speaker 6: mother was just there and I would like that is
42:27
Speaker 6: one of the most eye opening experiences of my life.
42:29
Speaker 6: And I take my hat off to the midwives in
42:31
Speaker 6: special Care and all parents that have been there, because
42:33
Speaker 6: it's it's not what you expect when you when you're pregnant,
42:36
Speaker 6: and you see all these things on social media and
42:38
Speaker 6: it's like, oh my god, a woman eating sushi after
42:41
Speaker 6: she's just given birth.
42:43
Speaker 3: So much about how happy and how yeah perfect, everything's.
42:46
Speaker 1: Going to be.
42:47
Speaker 3: And then you meet someone like yourself, or you meet
42:50
Speaker 3: someone who's like a friend of mine had a kid
42:52
Speaker 3: that it was twenty six weeks yeah.
42:54
Speaker 1: And so yeah, the mental toll on him and his wife.
43:00
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll ever be the same.
43:01
Speaker 10: Yeah.
43:01
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not talked about enough.
43:03
Speaker 6: Hundred and yeah. I remember literally like seeing that all
43:08
Speaker 6: over socials. And then when I was in this dark
43:09
Speaker 6: hospital room listening to other babies cry with a bloody leaflet,
43:13
Speaker 6: I was like, well, this is not the fucking Instagram.
43:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, it's not the it's not the Instagram.
43:18
Speaker 6: World's gonna get fucking likes. So yeah, and then getting
43:25
Speaker 6: to know other parents and then trying to breastfeed twins
43:28
Speaker 6: in special care. You've got midwives and I know they're
43:31
Speaker 6: trying their hardest because they want you to have that bond,
43:34
Speaker 6: and it's big on the milk supply the first week,
43:36
Speaker 6: the first few days, so like, bless my husband during
43:40
Speaker 6: the pregnancy bought me one of those twin feeding breastfeeding
43:43
Speaker 6: pillows and he's like, you're going to use this religiously.
43:45
Speaker 1: Trust me.
43:45
Speaker 6: The girl at the shop and I was like, you
43:47
Speaker 6: bought a fucking three hundred dollar pillow. She's going to
43:48
Speaker 6: tell you it's made a goal. I was like, you know,
43:51
Speaker 6: we have couch cushions.
43:52
Speaker 1: Interesting taken advantage of it.
43:55
Speaker 6: Literally, So the next day at the hospital he brought
43:57
Speaker 6: the damn pillow and it's like to all the midwives,
43:59
Speaker 6: she's got the pillow. And then having two babies there
44:05
Speaker 6: and like like you've got strangers around you, like other
44:08
Speaker 6: dads and stuff, and it's like your topless.
44:10
Speaker 4: It's like the weirdest thing ever. And I'm like, I'm like,
44:13
Speaker 4: they're not looking at me. I know they're not that good.
44:21
Speaker 6: Literally literally, and I was like, I was like, this
44:27
Speaker 6: is just weird.
44:32
Speaker 1: Neighbors next door.
44:33
Speaker 2: It must be so weird because I'm sure you never
44:36
Speaker 2: imagine being a mother to twins, never, but the mother
44:39
Speaker 2: you are now is it similar or quite far away
44:43
Speaker 2: from the mum that you imagine you would be?
44:45
Speaker 6: Oh my god, so much further apart to what I
44:47
Speaker 6: thought i'd be in what way? Like before I knew
44:49
Speaker 6: I was having twins, I was like, I am going
44:51
Speaker 6: to be so zen.
44:52
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be jealous mom.
44:54
Speaker 6: Like my mom is highly strung. She's me copy and paste,
44:59
Speaker 6: so she so street growing up so like with discipline us,
45:03
Speaker 6: like loved a wooden spoon, you know.
45:06
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm not going to be like that.
45:08
Speaker 6: I'm so chill, like my husband's Fiji, and I'm going
45:10
Speaker 6: to adapth that life.
45:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
45:12
Speaker 6: And then when I found out I was having twins,
45:14
Speaker 6: and then now that the girls are here, mate, I'm
45:17
Speaker 6: already like you see when they're like wingsing at me,
45:23
Speaker 6: I'm like, don't talk to mom like that. Like so,
45:26
Speaker 6: And I'm not as calm as I thought I would be.
45:29
Speaker 6: I would think the newborn phase.
45:30
Speaker 4: I would be one of those idiots that would say
45:33
Speaker 4: I worked full time my whole life. I worked shift work.
45:35
Speaker 6: I didn't eat sleep, I don't care. I am wake
45:37
Speaker 6: up for five years of my life. Now, how are
45:39
Speaker 6: it's going to be? Jesus Christ, there's no HR department
45:43
Speaker 6: when like it's yeah, not like the whole no sleep
45:48
Speaker 6: and two babies. Like the things with twins is the
45:52
Speaker 6: newborn like they one will set the other off, or
45:56
Speaker 6: like at the time they were so small and tiny,
45:59
Speaker 6: so one feed would take like an hour to an
46:02
Speaker 6: hour and a half and they need to be fed
46:03
Speaker 6: every three hours because they were premies.
46:05
Speaker 3: Do they Is there any like talk about, you know,
46:09
Speaker 3: trying to get them in the same cycle. Yeah, I
46:11
Speaker 3: mean because obviously when you have one and it's like, okay,
46:14
Speaker 3: we'll get them in the routine as soon as soon
46:16
Speaker 3: as you're as best as you can.
46:17
Speaker 1: You got to just try your bet. But then I
46:19
Speaker 1: can imagine like being.
46:20
Speaker 3: In the thick of that with no sleepers, like, okay,
46:22
Speaker 3: we need to get them on the same side.
46:24
Speaker 6: Literally, So every twin parent I came across through my
46:27
Speaker 6: pregnancy was like, you've got to get them on the
46:29
Speaker 6: same schedule.
46:29
Speaker 1: Got it?
46:30
Speaker 6: And again I was like, I'm not like that. I
46:31
Speaker 6: don't have a schedule for myself, like every day is different.
46:34
Speaker 1: Did you manage to get the twins on the same cycle?
46:36
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, So the first night when they were newborns
46:40
Speaker 6: and they weren't in a routine. I was like, okay,
46:42
Speaker 6: so this is why everyone says getting to a routine.
46:44
Speaker 6: So it'd be one would wake up feed and then
46:45
Speaker 6: the other one would wake up and feed.
46:47
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, this that's a.
46:48
Speaker 6: Long didn't sleep at all that whole night. So from
46:51
Speaker 6: the from that day and I was like, okay, I'm
46:52
Speaker 6: going to be adamant here. So I would do every
46:54
Speaker 6: feed tandem or bottles obviously feed. Yeah, it's a crazy thing.
47:01
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Look I didn't know whether I could ask
47:04
Speaker 8: that question, whether you do it at the same time.
47:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have you on the routine with the pillow,
47:11
Speaker 1: with the pillow, got to work.
47:18
Speaker 4: The pillows. So yeah, and now to this day, it's crazy.
47:24
Speaker 6: But they like they ship at the same time now,
47:27
Speaker 6: like everything is literally if one's got a dirty nappy,
47:31
Speaker 6: like within two minutes, I hear the other pushing, like
47:34
Speaker 6: it's crazy.
47:35
Speaker 3: Do you have you look, I don't know because I've
47:37
Speaker 3: never had twins. Do you have you ever mistakenly identified
47:42
Speaker 3: one of them?
47:42
Speaker 1: Never?
47:43
Speaker 6: So this seems like something like people ask me all
47:45
Speaker 6: the time because they are identical.
47:51
Speaker 4: From the get go, They've never looked similar to me.
47:54
Speaker 6: Ever, like to even at the point in special care,
47:56
Speaker 6: I'd be like to the midwife, they're not freaking identical,
47:58
Speaker 6: other like, oh honey, they're pretty similar.
48:00
Speaker 4: And even as they.
48:01
Speaker 6: Grow they like everyone's like, wow, they're really identical.
48:05
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you looking at?
48:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so bad with identical.
48:08
Speaker 3: I remember I had a mate I didn't know yet,
48:10
Speaker 3: Like I meet him playing soccer. I didn't know he
48:12
Speaker 3: had an identical twin. And then I turned up to
48:14
Speaker 3: soccer once an identical twin was there and I was
48:16
Speaker 3: like I started talking.
48:17
Speaker 8: To him like it was like, I was like, that's rude.
48:21
Speaker 8: And then he was like, you must know my brother.
48:23
Speaker 8: So I'm so bad for that stuff.
48:24
Speaker 3: But I always wondered moms and dads ever mistaken.
48:29
Speaker 6: I can't say it's happened yet, like, and I think
48:31
Speaker 6: it's I think it's like science or something.
48:34
Speaker 1: It's just a good parent. I don't know what any
48:40
Speaker 1: of them look like.
48:44
Speaker 4: Yeah I do.
48:50
Speaker 1: I have to say, like, well.
48:53
Speaker 2: Done, thank you surviving. Yeah twins, because my god, I've
48:58
Speaker 2: been at breaking point seventy.
49:00
Speaker 1: With one newborn. He's about to go through it.
49:02
Speaker 6: Again, you know, But I feel like what you're going through,
49:06
Speaker 6: like a different ages. I feel like that's hard of
49:09
Speaker 6: what you guys do them while I.
49:11
Speaker 1: I do.
49:14
Speaker 6: Because, like I said, mine on the same nap schedule
49:17
Speaker 6: and stuff your kids of all different ages. It's like
49:20
Speaker 6: you're going through three different days in the one day.
49:23
Speaker 3: He's about to because I'm too and done. Matt's gone
49:26
Speaker 3: for a third which is a great girl dad. He's
49:28
Speaker 3: having another girl at work, perf and this is the
49:30
Speaker 3: boost that I needed.
49:31
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've taken to it. Yeah, it's just the Godfather.
49:36
Speaker 4: You'd be fine.
49:40
Speaker 2: I do want to ask one last question before we go.
49:43
Speaker 2: When the kids are all grown up and if the
49:46
Speaker 2: time comes that they are no longer living at home,
49:48
Speaker 2: what is the one thing you would want them to
49:49
Speaker 2: remember about the house they grew up in.
49:53
Speaker 6: I think that it was just a very supportive and
49:57
Speaker 6: loving home and that like pretty much do whatever they
50:01
Speaker 6: want within reason. And I hope they just remember like
50:05
Speaker 6: how much fun we had, and I hope they remember
50:07
Speaker 6: like how in love their father was with them as well,
50:11
Speaker 6: like the way he's another girl dad obviously, and the
50:13
Speaker 6: way he looks at those girls, it's he was born
50:16
Speaker 6: to be a girl dad.
50:17
Speaker 4: He dopes over them. Yeah, and I feel like he
50:21
Speaker 4: needed them to bring out that softer side. So I
50:24
Speaker 4: hope I hope.
50:26
Speaker 6: They remember that, and I hope they'll definitely remember me
50:29
Speaker 6: as bad cop.
50:30
Speaker 1: But that's fine.
50:30
Speaker 6: I'll pop back and just how hard their dad as
50:34
Speaker 6: well worked for them to have a good roof over
50:36
Speaker 6: their head. One thing that I'm very fortunate is like
50:40
Speaker 6: my maternity leave is pretty much up this month, so
50:42
Speaker 6: if we were still in New Zealand, I'd be going
50:43
Speaker 6: back to work. But now that we're in Australia, I
50:46
Speaker 6: haven't started applying for dogs.
50:49
Speaker 4: I'm like, smuscle that you got this. Remember that's the deal.
50:56
Speaker 6: So yeah, very fortunate that he's able to do that.
51:00
Speaker 6: So I can be at home with them for as
51:02
Speaker 6: long as I can, and I hope they remember that
51:04
Speaker 6: we were just always there for them.
51:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
51:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, Taylor. It has been a pleasure.
51:09
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, sorry again to make you You've been here
51:13
Speaker 2: for five hours now.
51:14
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's like for me this is thank
51:18
Speaker 4: you so much, Thanks guys.
51:26
Speaker 1: Matt. That was Turbo.
51:28
Speaker 3: She has a lot to say, but she is very
51:30
Speaker 3: funny and delightful.
51:31
Speaker 1: I will say she's married, bro.
51:35
Speaker 11: I know that I know, and he is much bigger
51:37
Speaker 11: than me. How big is he with six' three something like.
51:41
Speaker 11: That he's like a gentle. Giant i'm sure he'd be
51:44
Speaker 11: lovely to ask if we met.
51:45
Speaker 1: HIM i don't want to find.
51:47
Speaker 2: OUT a big shout out To taylor for jumping on our.
51:51
Speaker 2: Podcast if you would like some more Of taylor and
51:54
Speaker 2: maybe some more of her husband that happens. Handsome they
51:57
Speaker 2: have a podcast called The Montoya, podcast which is.
52:00
Speaker 1: Hilarious if you've enjoyed this episode of ours, though which
52:03
Speaker 1: is also.
52:04
Speaker 3: Hilarious, also don't leave us for, her please, subscribe send
52:08
Speaker 3: it to a, friends leave a review five.
52:10
Speaker 1: Stars we'd love, that and where else can they find?
52:12
Speaker 1: Us Matt, well just quickly on those, reviews you know.
52:14
Speaker 2: WHY i put forward a request to try and get
52:16
Speaker 2: the reviews to one.
52:17
Speaker 1: THOUSAND i think we're seven hundred and fifty.
52:19
Speaker 2: One Whoa, OKAY i want to get to one thousand
52:22
Speaker 2: before the end of the.
52:22
Speaker 1: Year is it?
52:23
Speaker 2: Possible, Potentially, matthew anything is, possible but it's not.
52:27
Speaker 1: Possible without your.
52:28
Speaker 2: Help, yes you you, there you're there. Listening so, yeah
52:32
Speaker 2: if you haven't left a, review PLEASE i would love.
52:34
Speaker 2: It ash would love.
52:35
Speaker 1: It as. Well it just reminded me Of. Shrek you, there. Olga,
52:39
Speaker 1: yeah have you done a social plug?
52:41
Speaker 5: Again?
52:42
Speaker 11: No.
52:43
Speaker 1: Yeah you can find us on social media Where.
52:45
Speaker 2: Matt Two Doting dads On, instagram on, TikTok Also. Facebook
52:49
Speaker 2: there was a group there bursting at the scenes with three,
52:51
Speaker 2: thousand five hundred followers and also full, episodes not these Ones. Wednesday,
52:57
Speaker 2: yeah very. Confusing oh, god just a regular episode and
53:01
Speaker 2: if you're more you gotta pay for.
53:03
Speaker 1: It but not, really it's. Free it's all. Free it's all, free,
53:06
Speaker 1: free it's all. Free just to be, clear everything we
53:08
Speaker 1: do is free and.
53:09
Speaker 3: Leans at some, point at some, point we're gonna make
53:13
Speaker 3: you pay for.
53:13
Speaker 6: It but.
53:16
Speaker 1: Bo see you.
53:16
Speaker 2: Guys next week's.
53:18
Speaker 1: Circling how do we get out of?
53:19
Speaker 2: This Two Doting dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of
53:29
Speaker 2: country Throughout australia and the connections to, land see and.
53:33
Speaker 3: Community we pay our respects to their elders past and
53:36
Speaker 3: present and extend that respect to All aboriginal And Torrestraight
53:39
Speaker 3: island the peoples today