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Luciferians Weaponizing Technology · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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Hello, friends.
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Welcome to another show.
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Thank you so much for supporting worldviewmatters.tv.
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Jumping right into it right now with J. B. Hickson.
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He's an author.
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He's with Not By Works Ministries and Pastor of Plum Creek Chapel in Sidelia, Colorado.
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And a little bit of what we're going to be talking about after we're going to talk about
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Israel.
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There's a little thing on his website there at Not By Works.org where he's got Harbinger's
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Daily linked up.
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And so do I.
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We want to refer you for the latest of what's happening in Israel.
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And also World News, Harbinger's Daily, check that out as well.
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But there it is.
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Yeah.
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So J. B. is on there.
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I'm on there.
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It's a blessing.
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It's a great website and ministry.
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So the book that we're going to get to eventually is Spirit of the False Profit, Rise of the
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Global Technocracy.
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This is number three.
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In a three book set, there it is.
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I've got my copy.
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Thank you, J. B.
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He even signed it.
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So this might be worth even a little bit more than the average book, Spirit of the
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False Profit.
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J. B. Welcome back to World View Matters, brother.
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Hey.
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Thanks so much, David.
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I tell you what.
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What a time we're living in and that book certainly talks a lot about the globally
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lead and what they're doing to kind of usher in a one world system.
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And we're seeing it unfurl right before our very eyes right now.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, we didn't coordinate with the black shirts.
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I think this just happened.
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Sometimes that's God.
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But hey, you've been traveling a lot.
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You were speaking in the last week week and a half and got back late last night.
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Tell us about where you've been and the conferences you've been speaking at.
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Yeah.
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So we were actually in Norman, Oklahoma at the large Prophecy Watchers Conference with
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a number of outstanding Bible Prophecy experts when the whole war on Israel unfolded.
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And so it was kind of interesting to be able to pick the brains of guys like Tom Hughes
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and Randy Price and Bill Salas and Bill Cainig and many others who really have boots on
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the ground and key context in Israel.
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And we were getting text and posts and so forth in real time.
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And so we kind of had my finger on the pulse of that really since it launched and it's
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pretty amazing.
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That was in that was in Norman, Oklahoma, I spoke twice there and a whole host of phenomenal
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speakers.
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I encourage folks to go to Prophecy Watchers.com if they want to purchase the videos there
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from that conference.
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And then this past weekend we were in Texas speaking at a church.
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I spoke three times on why Bible Prophecy matters, those videos and podcasts are all posted
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up at notbyworks.org.
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So been on the road a bit, but we're home for a while now and ready to dive in.
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Well, you don't look as tired as I had imagined after doing so much traveling.
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So everybody must be taking care of you there.
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Well, it's because I'm so much younger than you, David.
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Not hardly.
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No, I appreciate it.
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Yeah, it's amazing what what the camera will do.
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No, it's been, it has been stressful and travel is always stressful.
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We pull a trailer and bring all of our product and our family goes with me, Brooke, who works
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for us.
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My little granddaughter was with us on this trip.
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So it was fun, but thankful for the opportunity to get the word out.
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Nice.
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So I too have been looking at the headlines and like many of us disturbing images and
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videos, whether that be social media or some on the news of what's happened, it seemed
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to catch Israel off guard, JB Hicks, and which is really surprising really with all with
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all their technology and everything.
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It was a well orchestrated attack for evil if you want to give evil credit.
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Just your overall thoughts.
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I mean, I've got so many articles and headlines here and I didn't know what we're going to
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touch on at the beginning.
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And that's okay.
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I just want to hear your pastor's perspective on what were your first reactions when
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you found out what happened?
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Yeah.
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So most of our, most of your viewers, because we've been working together for a couple of
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years, David, they know kind of my, my background and my passion.
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And so I take the view on all that's happened here a little differently than some of the mainstream
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commentators.
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Now I'm not alone.
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There are a lot of guys out there sounding the alarm about what, what I believe really
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happened there.
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But this did not catch Israel off guard.
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There's no doubt in my mind this was an inside job.
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It absolutely had to be.
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It's absolutely defies credulity to think that the mighty, one of the mightiest militaries
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in the world with the highest level of security and surveillance could be asleep at the
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wheel, especially on the day that it happened, which was marking three key dates in Israel's
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history.
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Plus, it was the most surveilled part of the Gaza wall.
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They had automatic machine guns.
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I mean, there's no way that we can say that, oh, this caught us off guard and we just,
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we blew it.
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We didn't see it coming.
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I think this had to be an inside job.
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And again, I'm not alone saying that there are a lot of experts who have inside context,
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even much more than I do that are saying the same thing.
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But there's a long standing technique in warfare that goes back centuries.
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I talk about it in my three volume set.
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It's still taught to this day at the American War College, two key weapons, if you will.
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One of them is false flags and the other is stand down.
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And this has all the earmarks of a stand down.
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That's because even though there are absolutely horrific atrocities taking place over there because
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of Hamas.
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And we now know Iran is supporting not just Hezbollah, but also help provide the weapons for Hamas.
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All of that is absolutely true.
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It's a very real hatred for Israel, God's people.
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But you've got to look beyond the two dimensional realm and look at the three dimensional.
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And there is a higher power at play here.
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There are evil, globalists pulling the strings, trying to foment World War Three.
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And I think this is very much the beginnings of this end times battles to bring in a one world system.
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That's my take on it.
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Wow.
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Excuse me.
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We texted a little bit back and forth.
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I'm hearing a lot of speculation.
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I'm sure you are too from some of your prophecy watchers and friends.
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As you said, we can have different views on this.
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This is not a salvation issue.
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This is an end times perspective that we're all seeing.
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Some people are reading into maybe Psalm 83.
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JB, we're talking about Israel being attacked very similarly than how this seemed to have
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played out with Hamas.
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Recently, your quick take on that, whatever you want to share.
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No, I've talked about Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 for years at the academic level.
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And I got to be honest with you know, if theology is a process, we ought to always be going
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back to the scriptures and studying and letting the scripture speak for themselves.
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And in recent months, I've really been taking a second look at that.
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And I've had my friend Bill Salis on the program.
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He's probably one of the preeminent experts on the future wars prophecies.
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We had him on just a couple of weeks ago talking about that.
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What I admire about Bill, even though going in, I really take a slightly different view
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to come to a different conclusion.
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I'm rethinking that because he is thoroughly biblical.
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And he really connects the biblical dots and uses a ton of scripture.
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And so I'm kind of still looking into it.
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I know that Psalm 83, there's no question it's a lament song with a bit of implication
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involved in there.
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Is it also prophetic?
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I'd say there's a pretty good chance that it could be.
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And I'm still kind of working my way through it.
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But either way, whether it is prophetic or not, we know that there are wars and battles
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and rumors of wars that Jesus predicted would take place in the lead up to the second coming.
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Most of them involving the seven year tribulation period.
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So it certainly should not surprise us that we're seeing a similar geopolitical framework
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take shape even before the rapture.
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And so that's kind of where I come down on that.
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It's very, very striking the similarities that we see from Psalm 83 to what's happening today.
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It is.
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I read it again this morning.
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I'm thinking, wow, this is an amazingly prophetic, whether it specifically applies to what
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just happened recently in Israel or not.
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It's guys.
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In fact, I encourage you to go read that Isaiah 17, Psalm 83.
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I was also looking at Ezekiel 38 today and going, wow.
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How does this all play in?
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But let's get your overall encouragement to our brothers and sisters in Christ, especially
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in America because JB, unfortunately, there's a lot of ignorance when it comes to history,
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how what the Christian should, what perspective we should take toward Israel, supporting Israel.
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There's really been some sad maybe indoctrination and a lot of ignorance, even in the church.
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Maybe they just kind of forgot some of world history and of course they don't look at it
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biblically.
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So your thoughts on that before we move on?
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Yes.
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Sadly, replacement theology still has a foothold, a strong foothold, an evangelical Christianity
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and it's owing to centuries of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.
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But we know what God's word says.
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It's quite clear that there's a future for national Israel.
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And to me, one of the key prophetic occurrences was May 14, 1948, when Israel was rebirth
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as a nation and it really stunned everybody because for, you know, if 1800 years or so,
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there was no Israel on the map and so those of our predecessors who were out there teaching
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the plain literal meaning of God's word that Israel plays a central role in the end times
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and that the King of Kings is going to come back and take the throne in the rebuilt temple
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and that prior to that, an anti-Christ is going to desecrate the temple.
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All of those things were just very difficult for people to believe.
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But suddenly, in God's divine providence, Israel becomes a nation again just as God's word
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said it would and now people are, I think, waking up to that reality.
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There's no question that what we see happening today has put Israel center stage.
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And to that extent, this should be exciting.
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I mean, it's horrific.
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We pray for our brothers and sisters over there.
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We pray for the innocent.
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It's horrific on the one hand.
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But at the same time, it is amazing to see Bible prophecy happening because we know the
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end of the story.
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We know that the King comes back triumphant and all of these evil doers, all of these terrorists,
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Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, these butchers, they're going to have their day when God's wrath
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is poured out on the earth.
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Yes.
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You said something, putting Israel on center stage again, it's amazing that we are so
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America centered here because of the blessings we enjoy and even in the church.
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I like the way you put that because, yeah, we need to be looking at Israel because that's
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where we're going to see prophecy played out and that should be our focus anyway to begin
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with.
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We should be watching Israel biblically.
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But I want it before we take a break, JB, very briefly.
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We mentioned replacement theology.
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So for some of our newer viewers and people that maybe are younger in the faith, what
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is replacement theology?
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Yes.
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So a lot of people teach that the church has replaced Israel as God's primary focus
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and that there is no future for national Israel.
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God has done with them.
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He's set them aside.
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When they rejected the Messiah, God said, enough's enough.
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I'm done.
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And so all of the blessings that are clearly spelled out in the Bible for Israel, they say,
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are being fulfilled in the church today.
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So there's no literal kingdom, no literal temple, no literal tribulation, no literal
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anti-Christ or false prophet, all of the, you know, the 16% of Bible prophecy that is
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unfulfilled to them is already being fulfilled today.
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And it's called replacement theology.
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But if you read your Bible in a plain literal sense, you know that all of the prophecies regarding
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Israel's king in his first advent, the birth of our Savior at Bethlehem were fulfilled
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literally.
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And likewise, all of the prophecies related to his second advent will be fulfilled literally
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precisely as the word of God says they will be.
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So we believe there's a future for national Israel.
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Christ is going to reign for a thousand years from a rebuilt temple over a kingdom of
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peace, righteousness and judgment.
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So again, friends, replacement theology is unbiblical.
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So we can talk more about that in the future, but we've got to take a break.
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When we come back this book, I have in my hand, we'll be talking about that.
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The spirit of the false prophet, JB's latest book in a three volume series.
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And I'm going to ask him what the heck was he talking about with Jan Markelle recently,
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a week or two ago, turning humans into gods?
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We'll talk more with JB Hickson when we come back on World View Matters.
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JB Hickson is our guest, not byworks.org is the website.
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JB, you were just on with Jan Markelle actually a few weeks ago.
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And the title of that program was Turning Humans Into Gods.
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I know that has something to do with your new book.
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Tell us about that if you can give us a little rundown.
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Yeah, Jan, of course, is a great blessing to so many people kind of been out front in
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Bible, in the world of Bible prophecy for so many years.
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She's been a huge blessing to not byworks ministries.
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But yeah, we were on her program the same weekend.
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We were at the prophecy watcher's conference just coincidentally.
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And so it was really amazing that the response that we got from kind of that double whammy
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there being at the conference as well as being on her 1000 plus radio stations.
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But yes, we talked about the new book and we talked specifically about transhumanism
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and how Satan and his earthly co-conspirators obviously hate God and they hate mankind
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because we are made in God's image.
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We're image bearers.
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And so they see humanity and they recognize that's the highest pinnacle of creation.
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It's the one frontier that they will never be able to conquer.
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So they're trying to create life that in their view transcends humanity is better than humanity.
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But it's all artificial.
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It's all fake.
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It's all man made.
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And so you really it really is the blind leading the blind.
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But transhumanism and the technocracy which I talk about both of those in the new book
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really are two sides of the same coin.
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The Bible teaches that one way or the other we are headed towards a one world government.
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It will be led for at least seven years by the anti-Christ and false profit.
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And then ultimately by Jesus Christ himself.
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The first part of it will be a satanic globalism, a satanic one world system.
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And in order to exert complete full spectrum planetary control,
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the beast and the false profit will have to use technology.
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You know, Satan's not omniscient, he's not omnipotent, he's not omnipresent.
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So he will make use of technology to control people.
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And that in a nutshell is what a technocracy is.
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And that's what we talked with Jan about.
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And we're seeing that already how the enemy is using minions.
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Manifest the what's going on in the spiritual realm forces of darkness.
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It's manifesting in the in the natural and the flesh.
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And people are being used social media giants are being used.
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Governments are being used globalists.
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Now when I see the title of the turning humans into gods,
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you've written quite a bit about transhumanism.
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JB, I think you were a little maybe ahead of the curve on this,
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because a lot of people really didn't connect the dots on this weird sounding sci-fi movement
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of combining humans and machines.
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A little bit more about that and we'll dive into one of the chapters I wanted to talk to you about in your book.
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Yeah, so it's called a bio digital convergence.
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And you know, a lot of people were familiar with transhumanism ever since
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Julian Huxley kind of popularized the term with an article he wrote back in the 50s.
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But for a lot of people that don't have a biblical worldview,
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transhumanism just means the attempt to live forever, you know,
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cryogenics and overcoming death and improving humanity so that, you know,
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biological and digital and mechanical all converge and we can live forever.
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But it's got a much more sinister agenda than that.
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It is satanic to the core.
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I make that case in the book.
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I talk about the origins and the history of it.
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It relates to artificial intelligence, which we have a whole chapter on that.
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I think we're going to talk about that in just a second.
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But absolutely, transhumanism is at its core Satan's attempt to be God.
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And to be God, you have to be able to create and Satan is doing his best to create,
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but he will never be able to create ex-Nahilo out of nothing the way God did.
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God spoke the world into existence and time, space and matter came into existence.
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God's the only eternal being.
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He eternally exists in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
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Satan's a created being.
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He's an angel who rebelled against God.
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And when his coup attempt in heaven was defeated,
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then he set his sights on earth.
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And for the last 6,000 years,
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he's been hard at work trying to prove to God that he's better.
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And this is his world, his domain.
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That's why John tells us the whole world is under the sway of the wicked one.
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And he's fast at work.
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I don't think things are coming to a culmination here in our very day.
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Yeah, it's amazing.
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And in fact, it's really amazing to some of us.
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We saw some of this on TV, some of the sci-fi stuff.
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Even their imaginations kind of now, it's all kind of catching up,
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what's happening and what's manifesting.
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But I want to go to chapter three in your book.
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And we're going to have J.B. on again, and again, Lord willing,
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because there's so much in his book.
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But chapter three really caught my eye.
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Wanted to talk about that a little bit.
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It's called Technocratic Tyranny.
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And J.B., I want to quote C.S. Lewis,
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who you quote toward the beginning of your chapter.
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And C.S. Lewis said, of all tyrannies,
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a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims,
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maybe the most oppressive.
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It would be better to live under robber barons
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than under omnipotent moral busy bodies.
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The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep.
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His cupidity may, at some point, be satiated.
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But those who torment us for our own good
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will torment us without end for they do so
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with the approval of their own conscience.
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I mean, there's a lot right in there.
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It's a pretty deep quote, J.B.
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But I think just by hearing those words,
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people are going, yeah, that's kind of what's going on today.
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Go ahead and share.
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Yeah, it's an age old trick of the devil.
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It goes back to Friedrich Hegel.
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It's called the Hegelian dialectic.
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But basically, when you have an agenda,
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in this case, an evil agenda,
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the easiest way to get people to embrace it
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is to make them think it's for their own good.
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To create a problem that has a predetermined solution
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but you create the problem to begin with
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so that the people will beg for the solution.
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And then you act like, oh, okay,
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well, if it's what you really want,
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we'll give you this solution,
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but it's what you really wanted all along.
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I mean, and of course, Lewis was coming
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from a biblical perspective, Atomus Pain
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said something similar.
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The greatest tyrannies are always perpetuated
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in the name of the noblest causes
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and going way back hundreds of years before Christ,
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Aesop wrote, the tyrant will always find a pretext
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for his tyranny.
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So in the chapter you're talking about,
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and by the way, folks can go to,
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as you put on the screen earlier,
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spiritofthefalseprofit.org,
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spiritofthefalseprofit.org is the easiest place to go
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to learn more about the book.
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You can read the entire table of contents
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and the subsections so you know exactly what we're dealing with.
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I also include the entire preface there
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so that you can read that and kind of see where we're headed.
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But as I talk about in this chapter,
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technology is just such a pretext, right?
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It's people have become convinced
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that we need technology for convenience
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for smart technology, smart phones, all smart devices.
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And we're kind of being boiled in the kettle.
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Well, it's those very conveniences
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that will be turned on us someday
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and enable the globalists to be able to track our every move.
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So it really is a tectocratic tyranny.
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Boy, have we seen what you were just describing
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once 2020 came around and COVID hit?
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Have we seen this on steroids, right?
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I mean, we never thought, oh, they're doing it for our own good, though, right, JV?
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Oh, yeah, no.
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And it's been, you know, I've been tracking it for a long time.
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You go back into my or some of my earlier books way back in 2012.
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I wrote a book called Great Last Days Deception,
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Exposing Satan's New World Order Agenda.
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And in that book, I talked a lot about the technology
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that was being used to rig elections.
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I mentioned Dominion way back then.
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And so what we saw happening in 2020,
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not just with the pandemic, but with also with the election,
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you know, really has been in play a long time.
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And that's what I want to encourage folks to understand
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with this war in Israel right now.
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It's about more than what it's about.
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I mean, to be sure, it's about hatred for Israel
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and trying to destroy Israel.
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And Israel is right to respond,
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you know, with incredible force as they are doing.
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We are right to support Israel.
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Let's not get sucked into the propaganda
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because there is a lot of misinformation out there
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that they're trying to use to foment a broad
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or global conflagration.
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I, that brings me to one of the other questions I had
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from this chapter in your book.
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And this is under a little section called
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The Twilight of America.
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And you say in this chapter another way
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the Luciferians will dismantle America's national sovereignty
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is by playing on our fears of military conflict
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in classic hagelian dialectic form.
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They foment conflict with enemy nations like Russia
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and China in an effort to instigate World War III.
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But let's pause right there, JB,
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because what's happened now it seems like
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I've heard rumbling some headlines of Russia
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and they're responding to this perhaps getting involved
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over in Israel or the Middle East.
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What are your thoughts now?
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Because I found that to be fascinating,
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but it's under the heading the Twilight of America.
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Share a little bit more about that.
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Yeah, so I make the case in this book
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as well as in the previous book,
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Spirit of the False,
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the Spirit of the Antichrist Volume II,
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that the Luciferians have gone on record
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wanting to destroy America.
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Since the early 1900s they want to get rid of America.
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You've written a lot about it.
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You and I have talked about it a lot.
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They set in motion in the early part of the 20th century
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a systematic plan to try to bring down our country
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and they're well on their way to doing that.
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But something's gonna happen that ultimately
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is our final undoing.
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It remains to be seen whether that happens before
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or after the rapture,
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but I have no doubt that that's where we're headed.
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And so there's no question in my mind
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that what we're seeing happening over in Israel today
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is the beginnings of something much broader.
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I have not a profit obviously.
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I certainly could be wrong because it's tough to pin down.
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The Luciferians on their exact timetable.
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But if I had to guess,
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I would say that Russia is gonna be brought into this.
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We know they're already kind of in it secretly
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in the same way Iran is and some of these others.
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But I really believe that it's gonna explode
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into a much broader battle involving all kinds of fronts.
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And one other thing I would say to watch out for
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because the Luciferians are masters at this.
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The ones pulling the strings of global conflict.
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They love to get all of our attention focused on one theater
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and then do something somewhere else.
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I would keep your North Korea.
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I would keep your eye on China and Taiwan.
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It would not surprise me a bit
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if we see something develop over there.
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Another interesting and frightening thought
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is we know the left plays by another rule
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called never let a serious crisis go to waste.
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So they will use what's happening either way,
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whether a more massive war expands or regardless.
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So be careful.
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Like you said, watch out for these things.
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And JB, one more thing.
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We've got a couple minutes left.
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You used the word Luciferians
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and we've been talking about this for a long time.
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You used that word often in your books and everything.
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But for maybe some of our younger audience
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or newer to the faith, there's gonna okay.
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Luciferians, that's satanic, right?
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So explain a little bit about that terminology, please.
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Yeah, it's a biblical term, but it's also their term.
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So a lot of people use the phrase global elites
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or the deep state, but ultimately it's a Luciferian elite.
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That's what they call themselves.
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Lucifer comes from Isaiah 14.
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That was Satan's name before he fell.
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And he is in fact their hero.
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They dedicate their books to him, they worship him,
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they pray to him the way you and I pray to Almighty God.
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And they think he's the hero in the Genesis account
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and God's the antagonist.
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And so the Luciferian elite is just a term
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that describes those involved in the Luciferian conspiracy,
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which the Luciferian conspiracy has described
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in Psalm chapter two.
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Simply involves Satan, demons and human counterparts
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working together to overthrow God as best they can.
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And of course they're not going to succeed,
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but that's their plan.
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Brilliant.
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You mentioned they dedicate their books to him.
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I think of Saul Alinsky, rules for radical.
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I mean, one of Obama's heroes, Saul Alinsky,
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Hillary Clinton's hero.
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And by the way, that book, I don't think it's still there.
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I think they wiped it off the site.
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But the NEA, the National Education Association,
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had that on their recommended reading list for decades,
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rules for radicals.
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Some of us wrote about it called Attention To It
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around, well, shortly after Obama got elected.
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And we've learned more about what community organizing was
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and the Alinsky tactics and the NEA took it off their website.
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By the way, guys, you can get JB on Rumble.
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And also Freedom Project has a new Rumble channel.
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Please follow us there.
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So follow Not By Works Ministries on Rumble.
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JB, it's always fascinating with you, brother.
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I love your insights.
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And I just am thankful for your friendship,
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how we connected whenever that was years ago.
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And it's just been a blessing to hear from you.
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I believe you can give so much good information and insight
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to the body of Christ.
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So I know people watching are very thankful for you as well.
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So what do you have coming up soon?
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Amen.
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So, yeah, we're going to be back in the pulpit
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at Plum Creek Chapel this coming Sunday.
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They're in Denver.
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So come by and see us if you're there.
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We've got a few conferences left.
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You can check out our events tab for the rest of the year.
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But I just want to encourage folks in such a time as this.
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Make sure you get your spiritual house in order.
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Amen.
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I mean, if you don't know the Lord today's the day of salvation.
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Place your faith in Jesus Christ who died and rose again
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for your sins.
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He's the only hope of salvation.
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If you already know the Lord, keep walking by faith.
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And we're supposed to walk by faith and not by sight.
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Spirit of the false profit dot org is the best place
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to go to learn more about the book.
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Amen, brother.
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I world view matters.
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What you just shared if we are not saved
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and that we don't have that security assurance
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of our eternal home with Christ.
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Get that taken care of.
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Do business with God, friends.
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JB, love you, brother.
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We will talk soon.
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Love you, David.
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Thanks so much as always.
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Thank you.
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Bye.
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All right, friends, it's just I was a blessing.
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And I am so just thrilled with this new format.
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It goes by fast with every guest.
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But tomorrow, we will have another troublemaker
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for the Kingdom of God in the pro-life movement.
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Seth Gruber, Seth Gruber.com.
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He's an amazing bold, articulate speaker and defender
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of pre-born human lives in mother's wounds.
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Seth Gruber, tomorrow, unworldly matters.
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Thanks for your support, your prayers, and God bless you.
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As always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.