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Episode 148 | One Day for Police · Corie Sheppard Podcast

0:20
Speaker 2: What's good?
0:21
Speaker 2: Listen to me, you sick number.
0:31
Speaker 2: Go on man ride on Whee Ba, ba, da, ba da ba.
0:41
Speaker 2: If you're good named, the artist Live great.
0:56
Speaker 2: Only send them little trannels to like camp.
1:13
Speaker 3: Say you don't feel the dance, you tired of jumping.
1:16
Speaker 3: Why you lying?
1:25
Speaker 3: Come and tell me the truth, baby.
1:31
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?
1:32
Speaker 3: You acting up like a fool?
1:34
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I know what you're going through.
1:36
Speaker 3: Come, let me go in the back and cool around.
1:41
Speaker 3: We got keep all the doors.
1:44
Speaker 3: They're not going to be done, darling.
1:48
Speaker 3: Come, let me go in the back and cool around All this loving you got.
1:54
Speaker 3: Come, give me some.
1:56
Speaker 3: Don't fight.
1:58
Speaker 3: We don't want them to hear.
2:00
Speaker 3: Be nice, darling, love me today.
2:03
Speaker 3: Come, let me go in the back and cool around.
2:35
Speaker 2: Whee.
2:37
Speaker 3: Whee All day.
2:49
Speaker 3: I'm loving a new number.
2:50
Speaker 3: It's from a girl thing.
2:51
Speaker 3: I need a loving.
2:54
Speaker 3: Just give me something to cool me.
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Speaker 3: Some are from a girl thing, Some of your loving.
3:02
Speaker 3: It hurts so much I can't stand it.
3:05
Speaker 3: Stop running away from me.
3:08
Speaker 3: You're playing tough and you want it.
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Speaker 3: If loving is what you need, Come let me go in the back and cool around.
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Speaker 3: We got keep all the doors, they're not going to be done.
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Speaker 3: Come, let me go in the back and cool around.
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Speaker 3: All this loving you got, come give me some, don't fight we don't want them to hear be nice, darling, love me today, come, let me go in the back and cool around.
3:42
Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 148 of the Quarish Apart Podcast.
3:44
Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
3:46
Speaker 2: Welcome to all the new listeners.
3:47
Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in here now.
3:51
Speaker 2: You see, kiki Pamali them people better listen.
3:55
Speaker 2: I never see nothing like that here.
3:56
Speaker 2: That man, this podcast is back in Alphys and News and Things.
4:01
Speaker 2: 2nd.
4:01
Speaker 2: This is always about Lackery, cancala and Kuchur and Kamesh and we're sprinkling now the seriousness Some songs too sweet to stop to it.
4:14
Speaker 2: Winston Soso, in case you didn't know, right Cause two months at ten front you need a strong man.
4:32
Speaker 3: Girl, let me remove from love and affection.
4:35
Speaker 3: We're taking you so long party party all night.
4:41
Speaker 3: You know that that won't do.
4:44
Speaker 3: A little love makes it right.
4:46
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm telling you Come, let me go in the back and cool around, cause keep all the doors and lock and take me down.
4:59
Speaker 1: I won't take the door and go in the back and cool around.
5:07
Speaker 2: Well, if you're taught, last week was along with Kiki Pamali.
5:09
Speaker 2: This is a whole crime weekend, because the main story is I think I'm going to talk about who fire bomb, who hock and ten man fire bomb, who hocks, but one man get hold.
5:17
Speaker 2: I don't know what I plan to talk about.
5:18
Speaker 2: At least we see plenty work being done towards crime plans and making the place a better place.
5:25
Speaker 2: So we want to make our assessment of all the crime.
5:29
Speaker 2: I see it have vetted unit.
5:30
Speaker 2: I see now the police commissioner checking license and insurance and all these kinds of license officers.
5:35
Speaker 2: But at least movements being made to make sure that and to make a better place.
5:40
Speaker 2: But I start off with something last week that I must continue this week, because last week I pulled out the great scrunto and let me tell you something.
5:51
Speaker 2: It has certain people.
5:53
Speaker 2: They just can't be covered in one episode.
5:55
Speaker 2: So it's like this they used to say one day for police, one day for thief, but it's two days for scrunto.
6:30
Speaker 2: I'm music, all jumpy.
6:31
Speaker 2: It's rolling through the land, it's having me uneasy.
6:35
Speaker 2: I just can't understand Anywhere I go.
6:39
Speaker 2: It like my shadow, make me lose control when it touches home, touch me, my body shaking.
6:46
Speaker 2: I don't want to stop.
6:49
Speaker 2: Don't stop, don't stop, because if I do something, it'll lick me up.
6:54
Speaker 2: It have me Wiping up in my body While you're jumping on the whole night.
7:00
Speaker 2: I'll shake it off.
7:00
Speaker 2: Let me stop.
7:01
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
7:05
Speaker 1: Wiping up in my body, swamping on my whole night Wiping up in my body.
7:11
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how you?
7:15
Speaker 1: There we go, I jump in Now I shake it off.
7:20
Speaker 1: I wait, I drop it, drop it, I shake it.
7:28
Speaker 1: Wine in up in a bang Jam, in a woman Shaking down in this band, making me feel so hot, putting me in a spot Just like a boiling pot.
7:45
Speaker 1: But ain't a polar god, this thing on ten me night and day, night and day, night and day.
7:52
Speaker 1: The music jammer must ding, ole, ding, ole.
7:55
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell the DJ man I want him to play, play, play, play.
8:00
Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody say, cause it ha me, oh god.
8:16
Speaker 2: Well, this is band luncheon done, started already.
8:17
Speaker 2: It used to be late August.
8:22
Speaker 2: I'm a tuff.
8:22
Speaker 2: I used to be late down in the year.
8:23
Speaker 2: Then it reached all the way to August.
8:25
Speaker 2: Now it's June, july, it's band luncheon.
8:26
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'll tell the jury out for me.
8:28
Speaker 2: I ain't sure if I could take two days on the road again.
8:31
Speaker 2: I see a story come out this week saying I believe it's schoolin' them.
8:36
Speaker 2: Who's those soco Having a brunch on a kind of all Monday, like from about ten to one o'clock Standing.
8:43
Speaker 2: Still, I feel like I kinda like the idea, you know, because lunch stop getting to be my favorite part of playing mass.
8:48
Speaker 2: So if they could have just a permanent lunch stop for the whole day, I don't mind that too much.
8:52
Speaker 2: You know, I don't mind that at all.
8:53
Speaker 2: I remember going through the savannah some years ago Playing mass with my boy Edmund and them, and he had a partner who they just set up a booth Like a little hospitality centre I ain't know what to call that A bar and a food station In the middle of the savannah.
9:07
Speaker 2: I ain't know how you're getting permission to do that, but in the middle of the savannah he set up a little tent and thing and people.
9:13
Speaker 2: So the station just for you.
9:13
Speaker 2: Alright, siri, nobody not saying nothing here, I almost find a way in the episode.
9:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he set up a little hospitality booth.
9:25
Speaker 2: So everybody who crossed in his stage Coming online by here, you know what I mean.
9:28
Speaker 2: People don't massage your foot, I kinda like that.
9:30
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the direction I had a go in To play mass these years.
9:34
Speaker 2: But anyway, let me jump into the cucho.
9:39
Speaker 2: Crime, crime, crime, crime, crime.
9:40
Speaker 2: Everybody have a plan to solve crime, everybody wanna solve down crime, everybody concerned.
9:44
Speaker 2: I mean the situation again Progressively worse, if you ask me.
9:48
Speaker 2: There's no, no sort of indication that things on the up.
9:52
Speaker 2: If anything, you see in more and more stories About crime and a murder rate or murder toll Again higher and higher by the day, and the brazen one time way in which crime Can be incommitted continues to be an issue.
10:06
Speaker 2: So the boss of crime, the woman who says she have this under control In about six weeks, she said she's six weeks and she gonna make her into the most peaceful place In the country.
10:15
Speaker 2: She stop talking to the media.
10:17
Speaker 2: She stop talking to the media.
10:18
Speaker 2: She said the media keeping her back.
10:19
Speaker 2: I guess you're wrong.
10:19
Speaker 2: You know Every time you ask me question question, I said, man, listen, when I come to work, right, if I come here to record Me and one of the buddies standing over my shoulder Telling me what to talk about and when to stop, and don't think I like that, yo, let's see how that little producer here he's talking about a little fella you get fired Too much of telling me what to do and things.
10:35
Speaker 2: I can't take that too much.
10:36
Speaker 2: Or if I edit in, I used to do editing, I used to do editing to say how you cut it, keep it pushing.
10:39
Speaker 2: So the woman don't want to screw it any, but with her release she do a pre-recorded release statement.
10:48
Speaker 2: It didn't look great.
10:50
Speaker 2: Given that you're not talking to media.
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Speaker 2: I think it would have go down fine If you're taking questions from me, media and so on, but if you're doing that as a replacement For a media conference, that will never go down well, especially when you get yourself A-plus.
11:02
Speaker 2: Recently, you know, but by Kaysian Haynes in the Guardian.
11:05
Speaker 2: It says the TTPS has posted pictures Of Commissioner Ula Hayward Christopher Joining officers in a series of exercises Last night.
11:13
Speaker 2: The photos came after Hours after the commissioner was criticized by MP Rudal Munilal For hiding and releasing recordings From an undisclosed location.
11:21
Speaker 2: He was referring to a pre-recorded video, video message sent to the media Late Friday night, munilal said when Gary Griffith Was commissioner he was often seen With his senior officers Visibly patrolling hotspots.
11:34
Speaker 2: The TTPS post shows the top cop In one photo checking the driver's documents.
11:40
Speaker 2: In the other news show he interacted with officers and members of the public.
11:44
Speaker 2: Again, this is where Gary, with a always score point, whether he was doing a good job or not, his visibility made him At least popular.
11:53
Speaker 2: But also the visibility Might have given him, even if his faults, some sense of comfort.
11:58
Speaker 2: And he called you know, I mean he come out bad and he say, boy, you can't live here, all your roaches.
12:03
Speaker 2: But I see Gary walking through sea lots With the NTC and the what's the name?
12:09
Speaker 2: Nta and you, nce and PDP and the joint forces, the coalition that is not a coalition, right, there's nobody amongst any coalition, but everybody riding for one another.
12:17
Speaker 2: It seems we just walking around with them.
12:20
Speaker 2: Because I combine the effort, or I guess, as the campaign Seems to be saying anything to get rid of the PNM Right.
12:26
Speaker 2: But imagine after colony, people Roach and things are going to ask them for the vote.
12:31
Speaker 2: But that's what Gary was good at.
12:32
Speaker 2: Gary was good at the bravado, the public face and things, how good he was at his job.
12:35
Speaker 2: We'll explore it because I have some things he coming up in this week.
12:38
Speaker 2: But I mean, how would you feel If you're in a regular road traffic Exercise, right, and the commissioner or police as if he likes not insurance?
12:50
Speaker 2: That's all a little intimidating to me.
12:52
Speaker 2: That song like the greatest idea ever.
12:55
Speaker 2: I also feel like if, from a PR standpoint, we want to show boots on the ground, a regular road traffic thing is not what we're looking to you for.
13:06
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: We're looking to you for something where 10 people fire bomb in a hot.
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Speaker 2: We want to see you there by that place.
13:12
Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes any sense whatsoever Is optics.
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Speaker 2: I started to learn more and more that I know very little about security, but the reality is that If seeing you is beneficial to us, I'm not sure that this is the way we want to see it, but it's a little bit.
13:31
Speaker 2: You're working, checking license and so on Everybody, no licensing officers, they're short staff, so it makes sense we use the dress up in camel To go and check, checking license and so on.
13:41
Speaker 2: But while that's happening, the prime minister seems to he have the answer to this thing.
13:47
Speaker 2: In coalition people can see where they want.
13:51
Speaker 2: The man had the answer.
13:51
Speaker 2: The man figured out how to get this thing done.
13:54
Speaker 2: So the headline, again by Kejane From the Guardian says PM is willing to pay for extra police officers For integrity or to pay extra For police officers of integrity so man can make more money.
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Speaker 2: More will be invested by the government To get police officers of integrity.
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Speaker 2: Kejane right this thing I kind of weigh right Almost has to say that they have police and they have police with integrity.
14:18
Speaker 2: That might be too separate things.
14:19
Speaker 2: Let me hear what we have to say.
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Speaker 2: Prime minister Dr Keith Rowley said he's willing to pay more to police officers To be a part of what he described as Vetted units Reserved for officers of the highest integrity, not integrity, the highest integrity.
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Speaker 2: Prime minister Rowley is holding nothing back.
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Speaker 2: Said this proposal.
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Speaker 2: Prime minister Rowley Holding nothing back, said this proposal Is necessary because there are too many criminals In the police service.
14:43
Speaker 2: I was in a meeting with the minister, national security, do you have that?
14:48
Speaker 2: And our experts and the American experts, where the American government has undertaken and we have agreed to accept it, to create within our police service what we call vetted units.
14:59
Speaker 2: I don't know what that sentence means.
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Speaker 2: Vetted units meaning groups of special police officers, men and women, who are vetted To ensure their integrity is intact.
15:07
Speaker 2: I'll spare everything he said.
15:09
Speaker 2: The idea behind vetted units is that you had to go through some kind of work While a lie detector test Right.
15:15
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go through Some kind of a lie detector test and I'm going to go through some kind of Work while a lie detector test, right, I guess, to see what, what level of involvement you have In anything or what how honest you are About.
15:31
Speaker 2: Because if you're going to take A lie detector test or then polygraph test, assuming they have to ask a direct question Like did you take any bribes?
15:41
Speaker 2: Are you involved with anybody in the underworld?
15:43
Speaker 2: You know so and so, or if they have accusations or anything that hanging over you, you can ask them that directly and see how they respond to that.
15:51
Speaker 2: My question to those polygraph tests Is usually this If you have people who apply, let me say on average, how much a police is made.
16:01
Speaker 2: A police officer entry level police officer Is make about 10 grand, right, 15 grand, whatever it might be.
16:05
Speaker 2: And then I say, listen, I'm going to pay 40,000 to be a police officer in this Vetted unit because it's critical.
16:12
Speaker 2: No right, this is something that we need, regardless of what you think about it.
16:16
Speaker 2: We need police who are sure, not being Uh, uh like they had, not being turned by the underworld, they willing To go against it, they willing to take the fight to the criminals, because we reach a point Now where the criminals running free and it look like the police running and hiding.
16:32
Speaker 2: So you need a special unit of people who are special Training and so on, but a high level of integrity.
16:36
Speaker 2: So let me say a pay in each one of them, 40.
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Speaker 2: It stands to the reason that if I make in 15 and I feel my integrity good, or I could get away with proving I could figure out ways to show that my integrity good, even if it's not, that that should Be incentive, or enough incentive to get people to come out and say, yeah, let me apply, let me throw my hat in your ring right.
16:59
Speaker 2: I want to know, after you take the light detector test, when I ask you here now, you take bribe from so and so and you say no, right, can you not say no, you're looking for the work.
17:09
Speaker 2: I want to know where it happened to that person when the people who get vetted didn't pass the vetting.
17:16
Speaker 2: Is they getting wetting?
17:17
Speaker 2: I want to understand.
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Speaker 2: Or they can't tell me that you need 30 people in a vetted unit and 30 people apply.
17:23
Speaker 2: It has to be plenty people apply.
17:25
Speaker 2: Right, there's more money demand say plenty people are going to apply.
17:28
Speaker 2: The ones who the polygraph started dance started dance when they asked about your bribery and your underworld involvement and your planting this on people and manipulating cases and so on.
17:40
Speaker 2: Before they quote, they had to be asking them direct questions, right?
17:43
Speaker 2: When you say no, I am integrators and that thing started dance, is it that they are getting locked up immediately?
17:51
Speaker 2: Are we looking for evidence on you?
17:52
Speaker 2: Are you asked to resign from the police force?
17:55
Speaker 2: Because it can be that the vetted unit is created for a high level of integrity and honesty?
18:00
Speaker 2: We find people who don't have that and maybe shown as involved the technology showing them to be involved in nefarious activities, and then they say, alright, go back to being a constable and you can't get any vetted unit, but you still.
18:13
Speaker 2: You go ahead and run to go on a station you're going to go sorry about that.
18:16
Speaker 2: You can't get here but go ahead and continue and collect your little 10 and your 15 and so on and make our wrongs when you figure out how to lie better.
18:23
Speaker 2: Is that the case, I want to understand?
18:26
Speaker 2: Another layer of the vetting of police officers is their financial records.
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Speaker 2: From my understanding, apart of being a vetted unit, is that we must get access to your historical financial information and be able to see what your transactions like.
18:43
Speaker 2: I want to see.
18:44
Speaker 2: If you have and this is I mean we can talk openly here, we can talk with you, can talk in big when you look at some police officer's salary and the lifestyle, something not right we could also.
18:58
Speaker 2: We could eyeball it right, we could I buy.
19:00
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying a police officer can buy our apartment building, two up to down.
19:06
Speaker 2: He can't buy a side or sleep our business.
19:08
Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm watching these police officers and the lifestyle, the amount of cars they have on the road.
19:15
Speaker 2: Don't want them a big, big rental operation.
19:18
Speaker 2: There are several car working their max season, the road, you know.
19:24
Speaker 2: I mean they well invested, they well appointed.
19:27
Speaker 2: Let me talk about during that.
19:28
Speaker 2: Right, I remind Jamaica they had a police officer they used to call Trinity.
19:31
Speaker 2: Right, when you're passing through, believe you, in many places, like in here place in Kingston, when you're passing through there and you see Trinity house, trinity house is like about 25 different house they put together like wherever he seen a magazine and a house looking nice, he's just put that on the existing house.
19:48
Speaker 2: It's about three levels.
19:49
Speaker 2: It cost scale as hell and sometimes you see some of that to the police here is like okay, if you, if you can and I'm not saying that a policeman must not be independently wealthy, I just saying they must pass the scrutiny so that when I ask you for your books, I ask you for your financial records, as a police officer, I must be able to say alright, your mortgage, your house is five million dollars.
20:12
Speaker 2: You pay for this house cash.
20:15
Speaker 2: Let me see how much of them, maxi and emmerent and all them kind of thing, how much of that you rent out, how much, how much, how much money you make.
20:22
Speaker 2: Every business should be able to show this.
20:24
Speaker 2: It's our, it's our whole procurement thing going on now, so that businesses, everybody know who's director and who collect and what sharehold in which part and how much our business make, how much is supposed to pay the government.
20:35
Speaker 2: These things that normal, forget the average citizen.
20:38
Speaker 2: Even if you're all a criminal, a criminal must be able to show to the state or to the police how you came across your money.
20:45
Speaker 2: You can't tell me you's a fisherman.
20:47
Speaker 2: You's a fisherman, right and your gold chain down to the ground, when you're driving your dropped up BMW, your gold chain blowing, and he brings a dragon on a chain on the ground behind you.
20:58
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, and okay, fine, if you have a fisherman and you're doing that, well, let me see, you must be ordering for a seafood company.
21:06
Speaker 2: I just want to see how much of fish you bring in, how much is selling the fish, for how much you're paying your staff and how much you have as profit.
21:14
Speaker 2: Because anybody, whoever, anybody, whoever buys something and sell it, know how hard it is to make money in a business.
21:20
Speaker 2: So, as a criminal, or as our accused criminal, our alleged criminal, one of the key things should be that you prove to me how you make any money.
21:28
Speaker 2: We see it with Escobar, we see it with who's the one, the whole and tax evasion thing in untouchables movie, again Al Capone.
21:34
Speaker 2: You see it many, many times where the financial trail is what used to bring down criminals.
21:39
Speaker 2: So it can be that we have a vetted unit.
21:42
Speaker 2: We check in your financials and out of the 60 people who apply, only 15 people financials pass his scrutiny.
21:50
Speaker 2: Then what is the plan for the next 45 while you're doing body?
21:54
Speaker 2: Next 45 who you see making 15,000 dollars a month but spending 80 something thousand dollars a month?
22:00
Speaker 2: What is the plan for them?
22:02
Speaker 2: Is it that they then just get to go back and say, alright, let me go back to my little constable walker, you know, I mean, if I find out you, you know you living within your means, but that's heavy, heavy, heavy accounts in your mother name and heavy million dollar, can 500,000?
22:18
Speaker 2: I just want to know why.
22:19
Speaker 2: And that idea of a vetted unit, I mean it is not a no, I saw a road, a buyer talking about it and it's not news, a trend, that is not news of the world.
22:28
Speaker 2: Ideas is done all over the place and it will be.
22:31
Speaker 2: The article seems to suggest a subsequent article from well, keesha and Haynes again said the FBI suggested the specially vetted unit to the government.
22:42
Speaker 2: So the article said Prime Minister Keith Rowley says the US agency that suggested the specially vetted unit within the TPS is the FBI.
22:51
Speaker 2: When the Prime Minister announced Saturday in San Fernando that it was the United States who suggested the idea of a vetted unit, he did not give details about a specific agency.
23:00
Speaker 2: The US, in wanting to share information with us, because it is a lot, it is all about information.
23:09
Speaker 2: One of the conditions is that they must have confidence in the people with whom they associate.
23:14
Speaker 2: So is that there's a information sharing this situation between the FBI and the Anahua police.
23:20
Speaker 2: But they want.
23:21
Speaker 2: They want a vetted unit to deal with now.
23:25
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do this without the FBI's involvement?
23:29
Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway.
23:32
Speaker 2: Rowley said vetted units are not are not new to the country.
23:34
Speaker 2: Given this, this bandit sought SAUTT by special anti-crime unit of Trinidad and Tobago, implemented by the.
23:41
Speaker 2: Patrick Manning led up administration as an example.
23:44
Speaker 2: A more recent example was a transnational organized crime unit in the TPS.
23:49
Speaker 2: He said that the unit currently requires officers to be vetted.
23:53
Speaker 2: So in other words, you already have a vetted unit there, but the FBI asking you for a new vetted unit.
23:59
Speaker 2: I also remember that, gary, one of the first things that Gary did when he came in was said that any of the police who work with him had to have a lie detector test on these types of things.
24:08
Speaker 2: And I mean, beyond the question of those who fail to get into the vetted unit and what is done about them when they prove to either be lying about different things or have financial trails that they can't pass scrutiny or whatever the other the other things are.
24:24
Speaker 2: If they can't pass it, what happens to them?
24:25
Speaker 2: Also wonder about the motives of people.
24:30
Speaker 2: Let me get a scenario right.
24:31
Speaker 2: If I go in a bank, I looking for a bank work and my goal I want to go in as a bank manager.
24:37
Speaker 2: My goal is to see how I could figure out how to get a little hundred grand for myself every month.
24:43
Speaker 2: I will quickly realize that that's probably impossible to do on my own right.
24:47
Speaker 2: So if I have to have people with me on this scheme, well, first I want hundreds or updating to 300.
24:55
Speaker 2: We had a siphon off.
24:56
Speaker 2: I would get my hundred and I 200 now as a budget to pay other people to be a part of my ring right.
25:03
Speaker 2: If I go in there and I have to look for people to work with me, one of the first things I will try to identify is who is the people?
25:09
Speaker 2: Who for sale?
25:10
Speaker 2: Who is the blue corrupt with the people?
25:11
Speaker 2: We see enough movies, right?
25:13
Speaker 2: You watch CSI.
25:14
Speaker 2: You're watching enough crime movies.
25:15
Speaker 2: You're watching of law and order.
25:16
Speaker 2: You watch all these things.
25:17
Speaker 2: So if I go in the bank with that intention, then I go and find other criminals in the bank who could pull this thing together with me.
25:25
Speaker 2: So if I have a lie detector test, what I ask me about is not to do it.
25:29
Speaker 2: Bribes you would have received or money that you I don't care about.
25:33
Speaker 2: That.
25:33
Speaker 2: I really ask me about thing where, if the pressure come on, will you go and rat, will you go and inform?
25:39
Speaker 2: Will you turn state witness?
25:41
Speaker 2: That is the kind of question I ask you.
25:43
Speaker 2: I ask you why is a willingness to bend your rules and be flexible?
25:46
Speaker 2: So if it is, you have somebody who and I know accusing an either guy Griffith nor Raleigh or anybody of being a criminal minded are just saying that the idea of a vet unit really depends on what is the intention behind vetting the people.
26:03
Speaker 2: If I vetting the people to make sure, as they have, rather say that somebody go continue to let the cocaine pass, then is a different kind of vetting.
26:10
Speaker 2: I do it, and because we're not going to ever be able to see neither the questions nor responses to any polygraph test that going on within the police service in any special unit or special branch.
26:22
Speaker 2: I'm sure that the people who got any prime minister or prime minister bodyguard he probably had to go through something like this too.
26:27
Speaker 2: But the man who got any prime minister, a prime minister who have intentions of turning public funds into private harm, private wealth, right, private and generational wealth when he ever bodyguard who gonna hear all he moves and we're gonna do is questions the vet, that bodyguard gonna be whether you can sell me out or not, whether you can play the game or close one eye or any discussion here here will not leave this room right.
26:54
Speaker 2: So that's that's where we are with this.
26:56
Speaker 2: The vetting unit seem to be happening.
26:58
Speaker 2: The FBI behind it.
26:59
Speaker 2: From my little bit of a knowledge or history of the FBI at any US US in particular those agencies they tend not to be just magnanimous and just trying to help a small island.
27:13
Speaker 2: A lot of times their involvement comes from the fact that whatever is happening here affects the US, or they want to affect what happened here to the benefit of the US.
27:24
Speaker 2: That is typically the way.
27:25
Speaker 2: Us law enforcement, the army that is how them is work.
27:28
Speaker 2: So it's either the men find something coming through here that are fecking them over there, like when you're watching narcos.
27:35
Speaker 2: It's always amazed me how the US was able to convince the DEA, who was working in Columbia and Mexico and stuff.
27:43
Speaker 2: It was amazing that they were able to indoctrinate these guys into believing that this is E a supply problem.
27:53
Speaker 2: They never seem to want to look at it as a demand issue.
27:57
Speaker 2: You have a country that for some reason have the highest set of drug takers in the world.
28:01
Speaker 2: You wouldn't check your own self and say, boy, maybe the stress level is in this country too high.
28:06
Speaker 2: Maybe the laws in this country need to change about what recreational and what is against the law and what.
28:12
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to address that Now they want to fight the fight on somebody else.
28:16
Speaker 2: Soil always the case with them, right.
28:18
Speaker 2: So for them to be coming here trying to help Rowley, I don't believe that there is some kind of oh, you all having such a trouble all along, let me send somebody to help.
28:26
Speaker 2: Look at my country.
28:27
Speaker 2: They will have trouble with crime.
28:29
Speaker 2: So if they are sending somebody here as idol, they are protecting their own interests about the crime here affecting what happened in the States.
28:35
Speaker 2: They are keeping an eye on their partners in Venezuela.
28:39
Speaker 2: So they want to be here to make sure that we don't help them growing anyway.
28:43
Speaker 2: So there is a kind of backside of the coin that they are working on.
28:46
Speaker 2: Or they want to find out about somebody who here.
28:51
Speaker 2: So when they say they want a vetted unit for we to deal with alone, they want to find out about somebody who don't hear, who might be affecting their own interests.
29:01
Speaker 2: Did I have something to talk about with Jack over here?
29:04
Speaker 2: No, anyway, let me go in order.
29:06
Speaker 2: Let me go in order.
29:07
Speaker 2: I want to jump all over the place.
29:12
Speaker 2: I want to also get a Gary at a public meeting in Rowley starting to get on a vetted unit.
29:17
Speaker 2: In response, griffith said this guy.
29:19
Speaker 2: Griffith responded to this vetted unit thing.
29:21
Speaker 2: He said while he led the police service from 2018 to 2021, he implemented measures to weed out corrupt police officers.
29:27
Speaker 2: He added we had added we had this special branch, we had the SIU, we had the white collar crime unit, we had sort SORC.
29:38
Speaker 2: This time, these people are all vetted polygraph tested.
29:41
Speaker 2: Then we monitor their finances to make sure that they are not on the take.
29:45
Speaker 2: That is what I had.
29:46
Speaker 2: It was there before but I think he kind of said it was there before.
29:50
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and politicians are funny set of people to know.
29:55
Speaker 2: When Gary came in and put these units in place he talked like he INVENT vetted units in it.
30:01
Speaker 2: So I guess a politician will always try to present something, regardless of whether it happened before or not.
30:08
Speaker 2: They had to present things because a big part of their job.
30:11
Speaker 2: They may not try and look good, they try to make sure that, whatever it is, they could score some political points or get mileage over the issue.
30:18
Speaker 2: So Gary wasn't too pleased that I mean maybe just not so much, not too pleased.
30:22
Speaker 2: But he just pointed out that hey, all this was here before and this was the situation.
30:27
Speaker 2: So salute to you, gary, keep walking with you and see.
30:29
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
30:30
Speaker 2: You're doing a good job already.
30:31
Speaker 2: I live very, very visible in these campaigning streets.
30:36
Speaker 2: Some more efforts beside walking and checking lights.
30:40
Speaker 2: Non insurance, the Attorney General funny enough.
30:43
Speaker 2: So we have a crime in this episode of our crime initiative from the PM.
30:50
Speaker 2: I hope it works.
30:51
Speaker 2: I hope the vetted units come out, the FBI and think it works and we start to see a calm and down of this kind of wild violence and stupidity that you see in the streets now and reprisal and revenge and who is.
31:04
Speaker 2: I hope that that starts to affect that.
31:06
Speaker 2: I also hope that a lot of checking lights, non-insurance, start to curb that too.
31:10
Speaker 2: But as a prime minister, that is, the police commission, I would think that they involved, but I find that it is with Fitz.
31:19
Speaker 2: Anybody wake up Fitz.
31:20
Speaker 2: Anybody tell Fitz crime is a problem.
31:23
Speaker 2: Find, like everybody else, to work and from Fitz and to all the mess we do, we got gagged.
31:28
Speaker 2: Or what I want to hear from the newest Attorney General, mr Reggie Amor, because he had some initiatives, stood out, a little more tech savvy, I feel.
31:44
Speaker 2: If you are not trying to identify and use technology, like while we might be developing, or third world or whatever you want to call us, our crime fighting initiatives have to be first world, because when you look at the kind of high powered weaponry that people are using, it's clear that the bandit, as we like to say, they are advancing themselves and making sure that they are well secure and they are using crime I've heard stories about places like Mova and Laventie and so on, setting up camera systems so that they identify when police coming up the hill or when the ops coming up the hill faster.
32:19
Speaker 2: So while I am a little one ring camera, I try to make sure my little them fellas, apparently, are allegedly have a whole ring network setup so them getting alerts on their phone they say look, alexander, I'm coming right.
32:30
Speaker 2: So if the criminal elements and it isn't their best interest to do that, because that is a very lucrative business, we mustn't forget that crime is money, men making a lot of money, money that most people will never see in their lifetimes is what men involved in crime to make.
32:48
Speaker 2: So if it is that they stepping up their game, using the technology, advancing themselves, I find like we must do the same.
32:55
Speaker 2: So, reggie, I'm all basically talking about things like artificial intelligence, unmanned drones that are basically so high powered weapons, manage high powered drone weapons.
33:08
Speaker 2: I could put it like that so you put up a drone in the sky and then drone on them to shoot people, they using cameras to monitor what we are going on and then they going short when they see the situation.
33:17
Speaker 2: So I want to commend them for at least looking into the technology to see if that is one way that we had us stay ahead of the criminal element, let me hear from you, reggie.
33:57
Speaker 4: If and when we have to deal with a problem that emerges, we are prepared for it, and what we are doing by this conversation here today is to educate ourselves to understand how best to deal with the present, which is the future.
34:09
Speaker 4: You have a piece of equipment out there in the sky coming at you.
34:12
Speaker 4: There is no man in a turret managing it, but you know they can be weapons and lethal weapons, and when they are managed by algorithms they are not going to target you and they see a child running across.
34:26
Speaker 4: There is no capacity or human capacity to stop.
34:31
Speaker 4: So autonomous weapons that are geared to kill without human intervention have to be very seriously recognized as something that we need to do.
34:46
Speaker 2: Anybody can help me decipher what, reginald, I am always talking about.
34:49
Speaker 2: So is autonomous weapons right?
34:52
Speaker 2: I wonder if you know what autonomous means.
34:54
Speaker 2: The man said the present, which is the future.
34:56
Speaker 2: Alright, reggie, I glad you are looking into this and I glad that this is an option.
35:00
Speaker 2: I thought it was very advanced, but he sang like if you know what he sang like, like somebody now showing my poor point about this, and he take the main talking point and just say autonomous weapons future, present, autonomous algorithms shoot little children.
35:19
Speaker 2: He just take the only people talking points.
35:24
Speaker 2: But again, this is something that I hope they continue to look into because I mean, you don't necessarily want like the idea or the discussion around both autonomous weaponry and robotics and so on and drones that happen all the time.
35:38
Speaker 2: Right, and we understand the fears with some of those things because when they think malfunction and kill somebody, they make a mistake or whatever.
35:44
Speaker 2: I mean them.
35:45
Speaker 2: Chances are unlikely, but even in the very, very small chance that it could happen, it's going to be a major problem if it does happen and it could actually hamper justice more than it helps.
35:55
Speaker 2: But at least we must look into these things to try to find what is the best way for us to implement them.
36:02
Speaker 2: As I say, they say one day for police, one day for Tief, right, but police will also tell you that the Tief had to get away a hundred times and the police had to only get through once.
36:12
Speaker 2: They would never catch you one time.
36:14
Speaker 2: So if we could figure out the technology or anything that could help us understand the situation better and approach it differently, it will always be positive to me.
36:25
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, somebody wake up, fits now, but again, I am always here to play music.
36:32
Speaker 2: Everything else is incidental.
36:34
Speaker 2: So as I say with the great scrunter, he's a hard man to pin down one or two or three songs.
36:42
Speaker 2: I play five songs in that episode.
36:45
Speaker 2: There's plenty, but these fellas in them have catalog to burn, their song to give away, and this one is one that might be for some of the more mature and wise audience.
36:56
Speaker 2: They will know this one for sure.
36:57
Speaker 2: But some of the youths in the audience might know this too good.
37:23
Speaker 3: I work line job one night on my bed and just suddenly something came to my head.
37:31
Speaker 3: Imagine that it was a train for the night.
37:38
Speaker 3: The night we called to my house and it was guy who wasature taking that meeting.
37:46
Speaker 3: And I have a manI knew when he went on.
37:50
Speaker 3: I just picked that Everybody jump in.
37:58
Speaker 3: So Pong na na tibong na na tibong na na tibong.
38:01
Speaker 3: Animals on the street.
38:04
Speaker 3: You see them already With the Pong na na tibong na na tibong na na tibong.
38:10
Speaker 3: What really makes a can of almoza?
38:15
Speaker 3: Pussies leave their work and jump up the semilars Pinging Pong na na tibong na na tibong.
38:47
Speaker 3: Imagine a crapo One who's at the photo.
38:50
Speaker 3: Hold me light.
38:52
Speaker 3: When he tried to change.
38:53
Speaker 3: What is crapo?
38:54
Speaker 3: Are they Go pan cream before Come out with no loaves?
38:59
Speaker 3: He crawls in the way.
39:01
Speaker 3: He wants me crapo today.
39:04
Speaker 3: But docks are williams.
39:05
Speaker 3: Construct your revolution.
39:08
Speaker 3: He brings prospecting next arranger.
39:10
Speaker 3: But crapo does not get over.
39:12
Speaker 3: We blast Pong na na tibong na na tibong and the whole land is square.
39:20
Speaker 3: Everybody jump in.
39:22
Speaker 3: Pong na na tibong na na tibong na na tibong.
39:25
Speaker 3: Animals on the street.
39:28
Speaker 3: You see them already With the Pong na na tibong na na tibong na na tibong.
39:34
Speaker 3: What really makes a can of almoza, Pussies leave their work and jump up the semilars.
39:44
Speaker 3: Pinging Pong na na tibong na na tibong, Bonet rock n' roll.
40:12
Speaker 2: Great skull tower Hit like that, talking about the police, and then police like they pull up by Farley.
40:19
Speaker 2: Why all they do?
40:21
Speaker 2: Farley, so they say.
40:22
Speaker 2: Yesterday morning Police went to Farley's residence.
40:27
Speaker 2: So the headline is Police search Farley's home Probe into THA audio leak.
40:32
Speaker 2: Now I want to let you remember for me this is episode 148 or something like that, 147.
40:39
Speaker 2: Well, let me remind you which episode we talk about Farley.
40:43
Speaker 2: Now we talk about Farley for about 3 weeks straight.
40:46
Speaker 2: We play audio clip of what they say was he and he say wasn't he.
40:49
Speaker 2: We play he responds and why.
40:51
Speaker 2: He say you know what I mean.
40:52
Speaker 2: But the police like they know rich Because the ferries at Tobago really slow and sometimes they are very sticky.
40:58
Speaker 2: So the police know rich over and they go on and check Farley.
41:02
Speaker 2: So the article says members of the police's white color crime unit this is a vetted unit too, white color crime unit visited the residence.
41:08
Speaker 2: So the Tobago also assembly chief secretary Farley and he searched the premises for several hours yesterday.
41:12
Speaker 2: They still chose in relation to the audio recording Of THA officials allegedly conspiring To use public funds for propaganda purposes.
41:18
Speaker 2: During the exercise, items from the home were taken into police custody.
41:22
Speaker 2: One of the officers was observed Re-entering the home with a number of brown evidence bags.
41:26
Speaker 2: So they find things, they find things.
41:30
Speaker 2: The operation started around 11.30 and the officers left Augustin's home 3.5 hours later.
41:36
Speaker 2: They found the police.
41:37
Speaker 2: They left Augustin's home 3.5 hours later With bulging and brown envelopes Bulging, brown envelopes, a lot of things.
41:45
Speaker 2: Maybe I was making joke and saying why they keep saying the tape and the tape and the tape.
41:51
Speaker 2: Maybe it's really cassette.
41:53
Speaker 2: Maybe it's really cassette.
41:54
Speaker 2: Them fellas had rest on Making these recordings.
41:57
Speaker 2: If Reggie and I could talk about drones like this.
42:00
Speaker 2: Augustin had an attorney present While being interviewed by officers.
42:04
Speaker 2: Acting commissioner Police Intelligence Kurt Simon was contacted For comments on the home being searched on the island.
42:11
Speaker 2: He said I know in the investigative plan there was a planned interview, a number of persons involved in that who we suspect are involved in the release of that video.
42:19
Speaker 2: I confused.
42:24
Speaker 2: The experts understand that more and more on is seriously for homes to be searched and to be baked with.
42:28
Speaker 2: Dcp Simon said Investigations are continuing into the matter Quoted as saying during an investigation You'll realize that persons may or may not be interviewed Depending on the police approach.
42:38
Speaker 2: Officers have in fact interviewed various persons In Tobago Members of the Anti-Corruption Bureau and why color crime units are in Tobago to continue Investigate.
42:48
Speaker 2: To continue to investigate the controversial audio Recording released on May 23rd Involving the THO officials.
42:53
Speaker 2: Okay, so here what I want to go back to that statement here.
42:57
Speaker 2: Simon Kurt Simon is deputy commissioner, he's intelligence unit.
43:03
Speaker 2: He's quoted as saying I know in the investigative plan there was a planned interview, a number of persons involved In that who we suspect are involved In the release of that video.
43:18
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what it is they're investigating here.
43:20
Speaker 2: Is the release of the video the crime?
43:22
Speaker 2: Or are they investigating the fact that it was said that we will use THA funds for For people to spread propaganda About what would be the PDP At that time, but now is the FALYDP.
43:35
Speaker 2: What is the situation?
43:38
Speaker 2: What it is we really investigating here and what I mean?
43:40
Speaker 2: 3 and a half hours to search a man in place.
43:44
Speaker 2: What coming out of them?
43:45
Speaker 2: Bulged envelopes, but the search was done.
43:48
Speaker 2: This is very, very fresh.
43:49
Speaker 2: This just came out in the express this morning, so I just want to highlight it again.
43:53
Speaker 2: Fali will probably be back in next week Because he's going to respond to this Politician and local government election Going on and I'm kind of saying none of this is affecting them directly, but You're going to have to save face, you're going to have to respond.
44:07
Speaker 2: You're probably going to hear from you what's in Duke's of this world and the other you and see alliance collaborator, whatever it might be.
44:15
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about this.
44:18
Speaker 2: The PNMI is going to talk about this too, because them, though, seem to be too happy with Fali, but it's going to be interesting To see how this unfolds.
44:27
Speaker 2: I I don't want to say like the white color crime unit, like I read articles Every week to come here and talk about stuff.
44:34
Speaker 2: Right, and I have not seen the white color crime unit mentioned much.
44:38
Speaker 2: I have certainly never spoken About them in the history of this.
44:42
Speaker 2: This is the first time I ever talk about anything that they investigated and I'm saying they don't do nothing.
44:47
Speaker 2: It must be me who missing it.
44:48
Speaker 2: All in all, I kind of blind, know, and I don't see too well, and sometimes I don't understand what I read in very well on them things.
44:53
Speaker 2: I never talk about these people before, and I do in this Fali and I do in this every week.
45:00
Speaker 2: I listen to several local podcasts who cover news and cover stories, as I talk about that, to Solitude, people who do in Die Good Talk Podcasts, check them out.
45:10
Speaker 2: Youths I like their vibes Looking new and looking fresh and looking expensive.
45:14
Speaker 2: Die Good Talk, dai Good Talk.
45:17
Speaker 2: But in listening to the Podcast landscape, the radio landscape, you hardly hear the white color crime unit Going and investigate a big Public figure.
45:27
Speaker 2: And a big part of the Discussion on crime is that who benefits?
45:32
Speaker 2: Where does the money end up?
45:33
Speaker 2: It's not by poor people, right, obviously.
45:35
Speaker 2: But it seems as though they're busy here.
45:38
Speaker 2: They take the time and reach the bagel and they check out this situation and stuff.
45:41
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that this is not deserving of their time.
45:44
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting that this is One of the biggest moves.
45:50
Speaker 2: You all feel there's a real big separation Between the police and the state and the judiciary.
45:56
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like If you're in control of the Political, the political side In terms of the government itself, like the legislature, if you're in charge of the parliament, I feel like you're in charge of the whole country.
46:12
Speaker 2: I don't think we have much separation Between these things.
46:15
Speaker 2: In other words, I'm saying that if tomorrow I'm going to be the prime minister, I shall send people to investigate All here.
46:22
Speaker 2: I send them people.
46:23
Speaker 2: I take a note For, all the people who do bad things To me, all the people who say nasty things To me, all the people who treat me bad.
46:31
Speaker 2: I have all here, I used to say, in my back pocket.
46:34
Speaker 2: I have all here, right in my back pocket.
46:35
Speaker 2: And as soon as I win the election I'm going to say Go and investigate this one, go and investigate it.
46:43
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
46:43
Speaker 2: I send in the white color, black color, I'm going to have a crime at half-unit.
46:48
Speaker 2: I send in them by you to investigate things.
46:50
Speaker 2: And sometimes I wonder if that's not the case in this country.
46:52
Speaker 2: And again, I want to be clear that I'm not saying that this is not worthy of investigating.
46:56
Speaker 2: I just find it strange that this isn't a big story.
46:58
Speaker 2: Well, alright, farley's, farley here and investigated, right.
47:01
Speaker 2: So we will continue to keep our eye on that.
47:04
Speaker 2: Do I have any other serious thing left?
47:05
Speaker 2: Again, all the serious things I'm going to do.
47:07
Speaker 2: Before I get back to what this thing is really about, jack one, right, let me talk about Jack one and put this to bed.
47:15
Speaker 2: I'm very confused as much as I see the, the comment together of the different parties Right, unc and NTA and CMOS, no PDP involved in that.
47:28
Speaker 2: So you have a little squad coming together, right?
47:30
Speaker 2: No way that I was thinking about the ILP.
47:34
Speaker 2: You don't remember, as the most you people out there released last week Saying they're not contesting the elections.
47:39
Speaker 2: Like who asked you To contest and who asked you to tell me Not contesting?
47:44
Speaker 2: But Headline from the Express Series by Anna Ramdas Jack Warner says People need to come out and vote.
47:51
Speaker 2: It's beautiful Former government minister Jack Warner's Earth Citizen to come out and vote in New York Is 14, government polls if they are fed up with Prime Minister Keith Rowley and he wants to see a positive change In this country.
48:00
Speaker 2: Speaking to the Express by Phone yesterday, warner, the founder of the ILP, said he will be campaigning In the background in full support of the United Effort, of the UNC and the NTA.
48:10
Speaker 2: Anything that will help bring political change in this country is welcome and if Guy Griffith and Kamla Are together politically, then I think this can only augur well for the future.
48:20
Speaker 2: Warner, who is active in the East West.
48:22
Speaker 2: He's very active and he also said there's a growing swell Of disenchantment over the poor government.
48:27
Speaker 2: You can see people are unhappy in this country Everywhere you go.
48:31
Speaker 2: People don't smile anymore.
48:33
Speaker 2: People are very disappointed, but at the end of the day, it's up to the people to make the change they want to see in the country.
48:42
Speaker 2: I wonder if the white color Crime unit know that Jack Warner is in the East West corridor and he hails from Aruca.
48:48
Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody ever tell the white color People that Warner, former UNC chairman and co-leader, said he has spent years in service to Trendan the big one.
48:57
Speaker 2: He will never turn his back on this country.
48:59
Speaker 2: I believe that they noted that the local government polls do not attract widespread attention, as a general election poll, voter turn out is Typically low.
49:08
Speaker 2: However, he said this year, our rezoning message must be centered With the early government, especially when it comes to speaking out against issues like crime and unemployment.
49:18
Speaker 2: Jack know the FBI here.
49:19
Speaker 2: Why is he making statements?
49:21
Speaker 2: Jack?
49:23
Speaker 2: Stop reading the sunshine.
49:25
Speaker 2: Read the other papers and listen to the radio.
49:27
Speaker 2: Stop reading the sunshine alone.
49:29
Speaker 2: The FBI is here making deals with people.
49:31
Speaker 2: You need to keep quiet.
49:34
Speaker 2: Let me come off for you.
49:35
Speaker 2: Jack wants to see the backer Rolling.
49:39
Speaker 2: Maybe he wants to see himself back.
49:42
Speaker 2: Maybe he only hope To try to avoid, to try to avoid the FBI and make sure that he stays Somewhat in the clear.
49:51
Speaker 2: Back to scrunchie, because it's a good bit to play.
49:55
Speaker 2: I have a few more things to talk about With the sports and everything scrunchie, but I want to make sure that we have some scrunchie, some justice.
50:05
Speaker 2: I will never only have songs in mind, but I know that scrunchie would have done V pictures.
50:31
Speaker 2: You, you.
51:14
Speaker 3: You Can with some money and jeep, arrange bike like Bradley, make this bike that leave this town and just run out to the back while she plays.
52:19
Speaker 3: The crowd shout and say we want you woman and the beans we want you, woman and the beans.
52:34
Speaker 1: We want you, woman and the beans.
52:35
Speaker 1: We want you woman and the beans.
52:38
Speaker 1: Jeep in ay, ay, ay, you could imagine those band body dance.
53:07
Speaker 3: For people break a race cause only one in love tell you what they want.
53:12
Speaker 3: Hear em is only brass and DJ don't resin in the air.
53:19
Speaker 3: Woman run, say like they care.
53:21
Speaker 3: Listen to young girl say she shall come.
53:23
Speaker 3: She belly bing in a sweet, sweet melody.
53:25
Speaker 3: On this stage we call it grandfathers.
53:30
Speaker 3: We want you, woman and the beans.
53:38
Speaker 1: We want you, woman and the beans we want you, woman, and the beans jeep in ay ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay ay ay.
53:58
Speaker 1: My friend, this is one thing I have to mention.
54:15
Speaker 1: All disappointed, what if I renounce after coming down here to get back?
54:25
Speaker 1: But the jazz is a rado and I'm on the toes, took away all the frustration.
54:31
Speaker 1: Keep them company in this man, cause that's rock.
54:35
Speaker 1: Just don't give me more.
54:41
Speaker 1: We want you, woman and the beans.
54:42
Speaker 1: We want you, woman and the beans.
54:48
Speaker 1: We want you, woman and the beans jeep in ay ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay ay.
55:09
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go let's go we want you, woman, and the beans.
55:44
Speaker 1: We want you, woman and the beans.
55:48
Speaker 1: Let's go.
55:52
Speaker 1: We want you, woman, and the beans baby.
56:04
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1:12:02
Speaker 2: If the food, the school feeding program, is, in effect, right, and in my time school feeding program used to be lunch.
1:12:09
Speaker 2: I understand my mother and my father and they used to talk about getting breakfast and lunch in the school feeding and milk and mobsy biscuits and all that kind of thing.
1:12:18
Speaker 2: Well, we grew up in a recession, right, we grew up in.
1:12:20
Speaker 2: We grew up in hard times and each year we grew up go to school.
1:12:23
Speaker 2: In the 80s we only used to get lunch, but I understand now that breakfast has been reintroduced and so on.
1:12:28
Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that Debbie Shaw said happened during the pandemic.
1:12:31
Speaker 2: They realized that they were helping children get better results in schools by providing meals in the classroom, right, and because the pandemic was homeschooling or online school, they figured out a way to get the meals home to the children, because it stands to reason that if you need a meal while you're in school any day, physically it might not have a meal home if you're home all day.
1:12:53
Speaker 2: You know what she realized when they went home by people now to carry meals this is in Yankee's place, right, this is in America the FBI and them and they would go deliver the meals at home and then realize it's seven children home, two don't go to school, two still is in front.
1:13:10
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:13:10
Speaker 2: So they started providing meals for the household, not just for the children.
1:13:16
Speaker 2: They deprived all the children in the household from mommy everybody eat and then they saw another increase in the performance of children in schools.
1:13:22
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying that to say that while we in our position now with, I guess, oil and gas money and whatever we have that made up the wealth in this society and the government, can provide free schooling or non-paid schooling, that's good.
1:13:40
Speaker 2: But those shut down efforts to raise additional funds because while we have breakfast and lunch in schools, now for the school feeding program, wouldn't it be great if schools can provide meals for children who home, who might be able to have meals, not just the children in the school, for the brothers and sisters?
1:13:59
Speaker 2: All the time it is for you to eat and your brothers and sisters are hungry, wouldn't it be nice for them to provide for the mothers and the fathers home if they're struggling to like through the school system?
1:14:08
Speaker 2: So in Jamaica, every Mclmaker muckle.
1:14:12
Speaker 2: I don't think we should just shut it down, I think we should regularize it and let the government support people who may not, because, again, people who could afford to pay is at different discussion than people who struggling to get by or cannot afford to pay or not willing to pay.
1:14:30
Speaker 2: It's at different discussion.
1:14:31
Speaker 2: I have, if it is the government could identify that there are some schools where 95% of the parents don't have a problem contributing more because it's for the well-being of their children, it's for extracurricular activities, so that everybody could come out like Presmen, I don't think you should stop that.
1:14:47
Speaker 2: What you should address is the 5% who either cannot afford to pay it or refused to pay it.
1:14:52
Speaker 2: You could work on them differently as well, because whether you're let's look at a group who refused to pay it Refusing to pay a fee for a community that you are part of, that contributes to the betterment of the community and you get the benefit of public and merit goods.
1:15:14
Speaker 2: Go and Google that, right, we are on time that I don't show it on time already.
1:15:17
Speaker 2: You get public and merit goods.
1:15:18
Speaker 2: You're going to enjoy the benefits of those things.
1:15:21
Speaker 2: So I could address you if you refuse to pay it and there's some metric by which I could say you could afford it, right, which is difficult and certainly for those who cannot afford to pay it at all you could make an arrangement with the school saying that, okay, if you're collected money by this, we'd be doing it for the betterment of everybody who is qualified or who has walked through the doors of the school.
1:15:41
Speaker 2: I think it's a useful thing and I'm saying that to say that I went to Fatima while and then I went to Tranquil and I saw the difference with the contributions in Tranquil.
1:15:51
Speaker 2: I was talking about this last week and a lot of what made Tranquil a real good government school was the involvement of the parents and the students themselves.
1:16:01
Speaker 2: I remember boys coming into paint classroom who paint their own basketball courts.
1:16:05
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:16:06
Speaker 2: Things used to happen with little contributions you get from the community and for the parents and so on.
1:16:10
Speaker 2: So I feel like if this is something that we need to revisit, I understand why they're stopping it, because the public outcry, they're assuming there's just a holding statement.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: But we should get as much parents as possible to contribute to as much schools as they can, especially the ones their children going to.
1:16:26
Speaker 2: And I think that is time that we start looking at the business community seriously so that if St James itself, st James have Fatima, Compre, junior Sec, mokorapo girls, mokorapo boys, st Agnes, st Crispin and all kinds of St James If you want to pull it so far, st James has a real school right.
1:16:47
Speaker 2: The community itself, st James also have plenty bar, plenty rum shop, plenty electrical place, plenty plumbing place, who's selling food.
1:16:56
Speaker 2: St James have a lot of businesses.
1:16:58
Speaker 2: If we treat the St James itself like the community that it is and St James business community is able to come together to further bolster what the parents contributing to the schools, then we go start to have a long term vision for crime.
1:17:16
Speaker 2: That is not about drone and shooting down people.
1:17:19
Speaker 2: If you have that kind of community approach to school and where the parents contribute, the government do their part, the business owners and so on come out and do their part and everybody contributes it For the betterment of the children who passing through that school and thereby passing through the community of St James and going out into the national community, then you have a long term crime vision and it's not about drone, shooting down people in the streets and the future is the present and the present is the past.
1:17:48
Speaker 2: So we go and that and things don't mean nothing if you're not doing anything about it at the source.
1:17:53
Speaker 2: So I feel like if I understand why they put out these statements and so on, but I feel like if we need to explore that, explore how much parents will enter, contribute, because they say cheap thing not good, but free thing not good at all, and one of the reasons our education system could be poor is the fact that it's just free and you could just send your child like it's a daycare center, and wherever you send them, however, they come back home how they do in exams, they do, and then they go and look for a walk or look for government work.
1:18:18
Speaker 2: It is we in a cycle, we in a post-colonial cycle, with no escape whatsoever.
1:18:25
Speaker 2: We had to create our own realities.
1:18:27
Speaker 2: Now, every community with schools have several stakeholders.
1:18:33
Speaker 2: The government is just one of the stakeholders that the school have.
1:18:36
Speaker 2: The parents must be a part of it, the community must be a part of it, the business community must be a part of it.
1:18:42
Speaker 2: For it to succeed.
1:18:43
Speaker 2: And if you want to separate SME small and medium businesses from cooperation, all of us have to be a part of what the community does.
1:18:50
Speaker 2: And I want to just take a minute because St James is the petri dish for what the nation should run like.
1:18:56
Speaker 2: So I want to salute my guy, karen Moraldo man, no, it's BB.
1:19:00
Speaker 2: You have to salute the BB and the whole team at the St James.
1:19:05
Speaker 2: I want to tell you I know the name of the organization, but only know I'm not a young man, so Google this so I get right for a change, right.
1:19:11
Speaker 2: But I saw that the poor house league is starting back, but would be the poor house in St James.
1:19:18
Speaker 2: So we used to call the infirmary In whom I can't remember what he's called.
1:19:24
Speaker 2: But the poor house league was a football league that used to play back in the St James Medical Center.
1:19:32
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's called.
1:19:33
Speaker 2: I know it's called the poor house on the infirmary.
1:19:34
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name right now, but there's a feeling back there that we grew up playing football and we grew up watching Flipper and these teams play football right in the back.
1:19:46
Speaker 2: There's some of the best footballers we'd ever see was playing football in the back, and I see that the league is regenerated and several teams playing, so I saw updates on it on Facebook recently.
1:19:57
Speaker 2: I just wanted to highlight that because, again, that is what that is what the community is about, and those are the initiatives that will change.
1:20:05
Speaker 2: Crime had to be changed as a useless, as a useless option.
1:20:12
Speaker 2: It must be something that people not seeing as a big thing to get into it, not with the risk, because there's too much to live for, there's too much opportunity in the country, too much is being done for me.
1:20:21
Speaker 2: I love this community too much to rob my fellow man or molotov, cocktail down some house, or whatsoever it might be.
1:20:28
Speaker 2: I think that dies where it is.
1:20:29
Speaker 2: So Salute to Karen Sekou.
1:20:31
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of youths from any area who are reviving that poor house league, and if all they need is a striker, I still have about five good years in me.
1:20:42
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:20:43
Speaker 2: At the rate of about one goal a year, max, right, the bakeries.
1:20:49
Speaker 2: I saw the bakeries come out and say that they are not.
1:20:53
Speaker 2: This is from Peter George.
1:20:55
Speaker 2: Peter George, we've spoken about him many times.
1:20:57
Speaker 2: Every time you 1% come out.
1:20:58
Speaker 2: Peter George has come up and he's easy 1%.
1:21:01
Speaker 2: This is from Kevin Felmine Felmin Adigardian.
1:21:06
Speaker 2: Prices of bread, pastries and desserts will remain the same at Linda's Bakery despite the country's major flour producers lowering their costs.
1:21:13
Speaker 2: Peter George, the owner of the 63 year old bakery operation.
1:21:18
Speaker 2: Peter George, the owner of the 63 year old bakery operating in 15 locations in Trinidad.
1:21:25
Speaker 2: What part of Linda's is 63 years old?
1:21:28
Speaker 2: What?
1:21:29
Speaker 2: No, no, no, somebody had to help me with this.
1:21:32
Speaker 2: Linda's come out after I born Whole Linda's turned 63.
1:21:36
Speaker 2: Somebody had to help me with this.
1:21:37
Speaker 2: So let me tell you Linda's was around so long Is it that I only know Linda's and St James when I was a little fellow Because Linda's was not around.
1:21:46
Speaker 2: What we know is Freddy's and them thing growing up and Pascal's bakery and Chimukano Went since Linda's soul anyway.
1:21:56
Speaker 2: They said the suppliers NFM did not notify any commercial bakeries about any adjustments in flour prices.
1:22:02
Speaker 2: Commercial bakeries use large sacks of flour which were not subjected to price adjustments.
1:22:08
Speaker 2: John said there was no notification to retailers on lowering the cost price of all.
1:22:13
Speaker 2: He said there was a notification given about lowering the cost price of five pong bags.
1:22:18
Speaker 2: So we should see adjustments at the supermarkets but not at the bakeries.
1:22:23
Speaker 2: There's a knock on effect here.
1:22:24
Speaker 2: That really don't matter.
1:22:26
Speaker 2: What are you saying there?
1:22:27
Speaker 2: Number one is likely that that cost saving will be passed on to the commercial or in the business selling channels.
1:22:34
Speaker 2: They're probably going to adjust the price soon, if they do it already after this article written.
1:22:38
Speaker 2: But also, if the price of flour goes down, you might see people baking more and it could affect the demand for baked bread by places like Linda's and Kis and they go ahead to adjust the prices down anyway.
1:22:53
Speaker 2: So I think this is a.
1:22:58
Speaker 2: This statement might have been at the time.
1:22:59
Speaker 2: They're asking this, but I don't see how Linda's and them price wouldn't come down.
1:23:05
Speaker 2: As I said last week, the only I think they're waiting on kiss.
1:23:08
Speaker 2: They're not going to move until kiss move and they're not going to come back to the public to say anything about.
1:23:14
Speaker 2: They're not going to come back to the public to say nothing when NFM tell them yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, we'll reduce it here.
1:23:20
Speaker 2: We'll never see the article written, but you'll slowly see those prices creeping down.
1:23:24
Speaker 2: So I hope that that makes for a little bit of an easier time as the general price level starts decreasing.
1:23:30
Speaker 2: And you know this is something I'm very interested in.
1:23:32
Speaker 2: So I'll continue to look at it Before we jump into sports.
1:23:37
Speaker 2: Right, it's just a few minor things on sports, you know, but I had to take a moment to salute the great Tommy Joseph.
1:23:42
Speaker 2: We had seen and we're hearing some rumors and some talks about Tommy Joseph being sick and turns out he had gotten a stroke and wasn't doing so well.
1:23:55
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, at one point in time the news was pretty bleak.
1:23:58
Speaker 2: It was song and like if we would lose one of the icons or one of the greats, right, but I saw this week article in the Guardian saying Tommy Joseph beats stroke of ailments, looks forward to getting back into carnival and some cultural events.
1:24:10
Speaker 2: Tianti's acclaimed comedian, tommy Joseph, has gone 180 degrees since being struck by a series of ailments in 2022, as his family prepared for the worse.
1:24:21
Speaker 2: Following his doctor's distress calls.
1:24:23
Speaker 2: Joseph's family gathered at his bedside and he's now recuperating at his San Fernando home, maintaining a healthy diet plan, routine exercise and abreast of all the current affairs.
1:24:32
Speaker 2: He's also looking forward to cultural events, notably working with the Kaiso House Calypso Tent.
1:24:40
Speaker 2: Health issues came up when Joseph had to be hospitalized at the San Fernando General Hospital for fluid retention consistent with a heart condition.
1:24:47
Speaker 2: While there, he was treated for an abscess on his chest and a cerebrovascular accident.
1:24:55
Speaker 2: Absorbed by the dilemma, joseph's wife, judy Bakkers Joseph, who spoke in an interview at their home in San Fernando last week, said everything was sudden.
1:25:05
Speaker 2: She said in 2019, his job became redundant at 105 FM due to the COVID-19 pandemic, where he was one of the hosts at the Mixed Nuts Mourning show alongside George Gonzalez and Natalie Morales.
1:25:17
Speaker 2: She said her husband's boat of health issues was unforeseen and distressing.
1:25:21
Speaker 2: She also said a lot of people did not know that he'd been ill and but with the intervention of prayers and help and timely medical appointments, his recovery had been consistent.
1:25:31
Speaker 2: She quoted as saying when he felt sick, I started to end it in my mind and look at the worst case.
1:25:37
Speaker 2: He was wearing adult diapers.
1:25:39
Speaker 2: He was talking out of his mind, as they say, talking about things like when you're traveling.
1:25:44
Speaker 2: You know people say you're traveling is a miracle.
1:25:46
Speaker 2: Somewhere along the line somebody's prayers went up, somebody's prayers were answered.
1:25:50
Speaker 2: We have a good neighbors.
1:25:51
Speaker 2: We have good neighbors and well wishers.
1:25:53
Speaker 2: We can't forget people like Clive Mango, shoe Win Ronda, paul, vidya, shaquille Sparks, karen Shorty, etienne, who literally carried Tommy on his back.
1:26:03
Speaker 2: We are eternally grateful.
1:26:06
Speaker 2: So salute great Tommy Joseph, 69 years old, good age too, too young for all this.
1:26:11
Speaker 2: So we're glad to see that he has passed his ailments and seen better days and better times.
1:26:17
Speaker 2: I want to leave all of you with a couple scrunchies.
1:26:19
Speaker 2: You know I'm going to play one more before I get into the sports and then play a couple more before I get out because, scrunchie, there's only so much that we could play.
1:26:28
Speaker 2: But I see some looking at me in my face here that it would be remiss of me not to play songs like these.
1:27:08
Speaker 3: Then is it?
1:27:24
Speaker 3: I'm charming some every brass, I know my jumping over the feet.
1:27:27
Speaker 3: But this young girl likes she going to Stray, hypnotized by every note I play.
1:27:35
Speaker 3: She watching me the other day.
1:27:39
Speaker 3: But I say, girl, that is not the way.
1:27:43
Speaker 3: She keep calling me on the phone, won't not leave me alone.
1:27:48
Speaker 3: I cannot let me trumb on.
1:27:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, she calling me on the phone, begging me for the phone.
1:27:57
Speaker 3: I cannot let me trumb on what she want to blow.
1:28:01
Speaker 3: I tell her she know she want to blow.
1:28:03
Speaker 3: I tell her she know.
1:28:05
Speaker 3: I tell her she know I jam in with a big band and people getting on out.
1:28:13
Speaker 3: And this singer tell the woman I play the brass, I want to do jam.
1:28:18
Speaker 3: But this young girl likes she was a mess, she can't move.
1:28:23
Speaker 3: Like she in her days.
1:28:25
Speaker 3: I hear an easy brass.
1:28:28
Speaker 3: She craves.
1:28:29
Speaker 3: Pick up her phone and she's got the way.
1:28:34
Speaker 3: You keep calling me on the phone, won't not leave me alone.
1:28:38
Speaker 3: I cannot let me trumb on.
1:28:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, she begging me on the phone, asking me for the phone.
1:28:47
Speaker 3: I cannot let me trumb on what she want to blow.
1:28:51
Speaker 3: I tell her she know she want to blow.
1:28:53
Speaker 3: I tell her she know.
1:28:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, she want to blow.
1:28:55
Speaker 3: I tell her she know.
1:28:57
Speaker 3: I tell her she know no, no girl.
1:29:01
Speaker 3: You cannot know.
1:29:03
Speaker 3: No, no girl.
1:29:05
Speaker 3: But who tell you?
1:29:07
Speaker 3: So no, no girl.
1:29:08
Speaker 3: I say you cannot know, no, no girl.
1:29:16
Speaker 3: She calling me, calling Me, calling Me, begging, begging me, calling Me, begging me.
1:29:36
Speaker 1: No girl, I say no girl Yo come on again.
1:30:26
Speaker 1: Yo, come on again.
1:30:28
Speaker 2: Too much hear eras and music from the voices all day.
1:30:31
Speaker 2: Still releasing hits, right.
1:30:35
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to remind you what I said last week.
1:30:38
Speaker 2: Just keep in mind that over the last week episode and this week episode we ain't playing nothing that I done with Christmas, so just respect the catalogue, right.
1:30:48
Speaker 2: But again, salute to Tommy.
1:30:49
Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that he back One of these days.
1:30:52
Speaker 2: We had to do an episode that's just about comedians in the tent because, see Tommy Sprangalang, john Agitation, rachel Price, there are some of them who really make the tent what it is.
1:31:03
Speaker 2: And again, salute to another podcast that I came across recently.
1:31:06
Speaker 2: I think I talked about it before TGIM.
1:31:08
Speaker 2: Thank God it's Monday that they just do a tent.
1:31:11
Speaker 2: If you're into the calypso right, I need to find I'm not playing enough calypso you need to tune in to that brother because he is playing about a all-weather calypso and he know kaiso.
1:31:22
Speaker 2: It's unknown that he not just picking tune and playing.
1:31:25
Speaker 2: He gain some history about his song, some background.
1:31:28
Speaker 2: He's very, very knowledgeable as a youth man about calypso soka music.
1:31:33
Speaker 2: I mean it's solid TGIM, just check out that podcast.
1:31:37
Speaker 2: Salute to them.
1:31:40
Speaker 2: In terms of the sports, I'm doing this quick and I'm wrapping up FPL coming back soon from Fantasy Premier League is almost August and it's time to get back to Fantasy Premier League.
1:31:48
Speaker 2: Closer to the date, I'm gonna give the codes for all the leagues that we play in so that all they could be apart of that right.
1:31:53
Speaker 2: Salute to Mexico.
1:31:54
Speaker 2: Alley, wendy, goldcup we had Alley, we let Alley.
1:31:57
Speaker 2: We let Alley off the hook.
1:31:58
Speaker 2: Angus Angus had Alley.
1:31:59
Speaker 2: He decided to let Alley by playing all the youth men on them and make sure that we have our experience team because Alley could keep that whole Goldcup.
1:32:06
Speaker 2: We looking for Worldcup fame at this point in time, right, so we in that I was talking about Hart.
1:32:12
Speaker 2: I don't think I went back to it, but Hart was saying that, or the rumors were saying that Angus is out and we're gonna get back.
1:32:19
Speaker 2: Either Kevin called Stephen Hart one of them but, um, steve Hart.
1:32:25
Speaker 2: Sahinian at Mothers Asilisana wrote.
1:32:27
Speaker 2: Former Soka Warriors head coach Stephen Hart has denied holding any talks with the TTFA regarding the position of men's national senior team head coach and a Guardian article had said Hart set for Soka Warriors return, claimed the Canadian base.
1:32:43
Speaker 2: Claimed the Canada base coach was the favorite choice of local football body by a FIFA run appointed normalization committee had already been approached about the position, but there was no suggestion to that.
1:32:56
Speaker 2: The former Soka Warriors forward, kenwin Jones, who captained the team during Hart's tenure, turned down a chance at the women's national team to serve as Hart's assistant.
1:33:04
Speaker 2: So the rumor and the article by the Guardian I can't even say rumor was that Angus was out, hart was getting the job, kenwin Jones was assistant, but it seemed as though none of the story is confirmed and I think we safe to say at this point Angus ain't going nowhere because I mean, goal cup, come on, finish the winner crowned we out long time and there's been no additional word on Angus' being maintained or moved, as the coach had turned that into Bego.
1:33:30
Speaker 2: So I mean the thing was, it is here my support because I I we didn't look the best in the goal cup, but I will say that we've looked better than we've looked in a long time.
1:33:42
Speaker 2: The problem is that that long time is under Steve Mahat, because when it was under Steve Mahat the thing was happening.
1:33:48
Speaker 2: That side was playing.
1:33:49
Speaker 2: I saw on TTFA Instagram recently some flashbacks from our 2006 campaign, not 2006, 2010, the South Africa campaign.
1:33:57
Speaker 2: For the football enthusiasts, go back and look at the scores in them games or the games themselves.
1:34:03
Speaker 2: That was a real hard luck campaign.
1:34:05
Speaker 2: We went up two NLTL Salvador, nl Salvador and come and draw that game Giveaway points.
1:34:11
Speaker 2: You know we also giveaway points against Costa Rica in one of the games in Tobago.
1:34:15
Speaker 2: I think the first game in that hex was against Costa Rica in Tobago and we had a penalty with men like Stern, john and who was on the field.
1:34:25
Speaker 2: Stern would have been on the field.
1:34:27
Speaker 2: That or York was playing.
1:34:29
Speaker 2: Still, york was playing coach.
1:34:30
Speaker 2: That might have been under, if it's not, latopy is Maturano.
1:34:33
Speaker 2: Maturano was a coach and Latopy was the assistant coach, if I'm not mistaken.
1:34:37
Speaker 2: I hope I have that right, but we are York.
1:34:40
Speaker 2: Then I think they give Stern to kick the penalty and Stern missed the penalty and I think we lost that game three to, or draw that game to all or something like that.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: That was a really hard luck campaign.
1:34:50
Speaker 2: But that team was a big team and people are that qualifying campaign.
1:34:53
Speaker 2: In particular, people are the opposing teams.
1:34:56
Speaker 2: You're going to have real respect, kenwin Jones.
1:34:59
Speaker 2: They used to have two men up there.
1:35:01
Speaker 2: They're trying to keep him all the game when he was on the field and things.
1:35:05
Speaker 2: So that's a hard luck campaign, but to go from within a decade the way our football went under.
1:35:10
Speaker 2: What is Gary Griffith, partner name again Elbowman, to go from Elbowman to St Fleet and all these coaches who just basically I think somewhere in a similar most must be passing a rush there again to.
1:35:24
Speaker 2: I mean, we really had to get to the point where our football better than that, and if it means building, of course it means building local talent.
1:35:31
Speaker 2: But I think we had to focus on the local talent, local coaching talent as well, because Lawrence did not the best run.
1:35:38
Speaker 2: Angus seemed to be getting something out of the team.
1:35:42
Speaker 2: We're at least we looking like we in the, we in the ascendancy, or he hauled the decline, whichever way you want to look at it.
1:35:49
Speaker 2: But I hope in that, whatever is the situation with this team settled quickly because, as as again the goal is to we had to be, we had to be headed to Wilkup right.
1:36:00
Speaker 2: Last one on is Brian Williams.
1:36:02
Speaker 2: Only remember Brian Williams of strike squad fame.
1:36:05
Speaker 2: Raster in the strike squad For my national defender was a standout with no infamous strike squad of 1989.
1:36:11
Speaker 2: Brian Williams attempted to break down the issues that led to the failure of the Soco Warriors at the goal cup Following a tri-nil victory against him.
1:36:18
Speaker 2: Kids will only know what happened there, right?
1:36:22
Speaker 2: Williams, who like many has spent his entire life in the sport, tried to explain the formula for success in sports, and particularly in football, he said.
1:36:28
Speaker 2: He said it starts with having the right infrastructure and the right administration.
1:36:33
Speaker 2: He wanted to stay away from the perceived back and all of given comments on that.
1:36:37
Speaker 2: But the road only continue, a reoccurring situation that stagnates progress.
1:36:41
Speaker 2: He said I was totally moved by the selection of the team from the synchates and nevis game and then players' personality, players' personal responsibilities.
1:36:52
Speaker 2: What I looked at, I watched the whole drive by the players, the basic intelligence and the basic understanding to do well and play hard for the national team, and I did not see that I am not getting enough of that and that is an individual responsibility as a player.
1:37:06
Speaker 2: So Williams broke down a few things.
1:37:09
Speaker 2: He did get into the administration and so on, but he was basically saying that, or let me quote him here.
1:37:15
Speaker 2: He quoted as saying we might bring in Stephen Hart tomorrow and after 2-3 games we might be saying is better, we keep Angus.
1:37:20
Speaker 2: So it might be so, because we don't have the divine rights to see these things, but certain infrastructure and sustainability in a properly run league, ensuring that the players are being compensated or paid a decent salary above the minimum wage and a man could have a hope that he can really give his all, because the play for international football is a full time job.
1:37:43
Speaker 2: So he basically saying that if the infrastructure and the compensation and those things not in place are the drive from the players not going to be there the heart and soul, they putting it all on the line, like if we go in order to fight a war.
1:37:55
Speaker 2: So I believe that when people like him make comments like these, we had to take stock of it.
1:38:00
Speaker 2: And one of the realities I see LaSana talk about this all the time one of the realities that is going to keep Trinidad football in limbo is the fact that we still have a normalization committee that is running the football affairs and we basically not in charge of our own football affairs, yet FIFA is still basically through the normalization committee, managing the day-to-day operations of football in the country.
1:38:25
Speaker 2: So that could never be good for the development of football.
1:38:29
Speaker 2: It is always going to lead to a rift between the government here and the football association businesses, as I was saying about the school businesses not going to want to contribute, individuals not going to want to contribute, the government don't want to contribute and it only leads to the detriment of I want to put myself first as a die hard fan, right, but the detriment is really to the individual youths who see football as our future.
1:38:52
Speaker 2: And remember, on Birdie and Buddy podcast, mealy at in Johnson John or Johnson Mealy make a statement that she saw the world with our football at her feet.
1:39:01
Speaker 2: Is it such an instructive statement that young person who see hope in our sport and not just hope for betterment for themselves but for the whole family, financial betterment, financial security, for security and financial betterment for their communities, for their country, and you want to pray that it could bring?
1:39:20
Speaker 2: If we do have those things, then how will that hunger and desire and drive and fight, where will it come from?
1:39:28
Speaker 2: So I think Saluta Brand Williams will take a minute to talk about that and I hope that the powers that be listening.
1:39:34
Speaker 2: And as you talk about listening, let me leave you with two scruncher before we get over to here too.
1:39:39
Speaker 2: This one might not be one of the most popular ones, right, but it's an early scruncher and the vibe of this song is scrunching essence.
1:40:44
Speaker 3: And all I try to tell her that I am not the man.
1:40:47
Speaker 3: She jam me in a corner and hold on to me.
1:40:51
Speaker 3: She say Ali Ali, come on, don't make me nanny.
1:41:03
Speaker 3: Ali Ali, come see me.
1:41:11
Speaker 3: Nanny, nanny, come on, baby, nanny, papa's up and then she gets you done.
1:41:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had to let you go.
1:41:50
Speaker 2: Nanny, nanny, papa's up and then she gets you done.
1:41:54
Speaker 2: Hey, I want to wish all you a safe week.
1:42:04
Speaker 2: You know safe travels in all the week.
1:42:06
Speaker 2: Talking about travels, I'll be traveling soon as I'm out with you.
1:42:12
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to tell me play, traveling and things.
1:42:14
Speaker 2: Maybe there will be no podcast next week, may or may not.
1:42:18
Speaker 2: They may or may not be a podcast next week.
1:42:20
Speaker 2: According to how this week or weekend go, you will be determined whether a podcast is going to come out next week.
1:42:26
Speaker 2: But if I don't hear or hear or hear from Ali next week, we'll catch up the week after.
1:42:32
Speaker 2: However, news come out, we'll still take notes and we'll be right back on track.
1:42:36
Speaker 2: Just coincidentally, this worked out perfect because Joe Button podcast and he crew going on vacation and I find like podcasters should tell people in advance when they're not going on records.
1:42:47
Speaker 2: Everybody could go on vacation at the same time.
1:42:49
Speaker 2: So start to make plans for to wait and I couldn't do a scrunchie episode or two and leave Olly with all the biggest one of them all.
1:44:17
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1:44:42
Speaker 3: What she say, she say only one song, it wouldn't take so long.
1:45:08
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1:45:11
Speaker 3: I said, madam, this is my profession, it is charity, I'll make a donation.
1:45:21
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1:45:24
Speaker 3: I don't want to pay little money.
1:45:27
Speaker 3: I can't do that it is I can't see for me right now, but still she want me to think in jeep away For free, but not me, no, sorry.
1:45:46
Speaker 3: She said to me scrunchie boy, I love your soka.
1:46:24
Speaker 3: You will be the main attraction for this location.
1:46:28
Speaker 3: She said to me you are the rickstrump, perfect, you are the man where they country music.
1:46:38
Speaker 3: She want me to think in jeep away.
1:46:40
Speaker 3: I know I don't pay little money.
1:46:43
Speaker 3: I say, baby, I can't do that it is I can't see for me right now, but still she want me to think in jeep away For free, but not me.
1:47:02
Speaker 3: No, sorry, I'll be gone, okay.
1:47:23
Speaker 3: She want me to think in jeep away.
1:47:31
Speaker 3: She want me to think in jeep away when it's lonely.
1:47:39
Speaker 3: She want me to think In jeep away when it's lonely.
1:47:51
Speaker 2: Hey, only take only time this weekend to be safe.
1:47:53
Speaker 2: Take care of yourself.
1:47:55
Speaker 2: Them train on vacation.
1:47:56
Speaker 2: Only put them in a camp.
1:47:57
Speaker 2: Only do them.
1:47:58
Speaker 2: Only keep them train home.
1:47:59
Speaker 2: Don't know what they're eating on horse and land.
1:48:02
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching.