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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Panthers Overrated??? · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Shoot.
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: You know, we go right to it right now. Guys
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: got to go from their locker room right into recovery
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: and those different things. We have all the resources to
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: do that, but we got to move on quickly. The
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: message to the team was, I don't really know what
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: this game would have looked like because of giving up
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: those turnovers and giving 22 points. It's really hard in
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: this league with one turnover, with multiple. It makes it
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: really challenging.
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: That is Dave Canales.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Starting off, he was asked if it makes you glad
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: there's a short turnaround after a game like that.
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: And I think we all are. Like, don't get me wrong, Bone.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Like, in a player's mindset, it does need to be flushed.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: It's just I would have liked addressing how sorry it was.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: He also said his message was, I don't know what
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: the game would have been like if we didn't give
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: him 22 points off turnovers, which is true.
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: But, like.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: That's four turnovers. That's four horrible moments, Bone. You can't
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: just wash those away. And you definitely can't wash away
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: what happened to us in run defense. I don't know.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's best it's a short week.
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Maybe they're better off just
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: getting right to it.
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  Speaker 4: The Panthers are really affecting a lot of lives here,
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: looking for tickets on the text line. He's on a diet,
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: and he had to turn to red velvet cake at
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: halftime yesterday, so now his diet's ruined.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: Stress-eating.
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: How about Colin came in here during the break, Mac?
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: One of his only hopes of the weekend is the
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: play of Grayson Allen and his big shot he had
• 1:53
  Speaker 4: on Saturday night. Colin is really fired up to have
• 1:57
  Speaker 4: Grayson on his side.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: He's not fully embracing yet that Grayson is so key
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: to his Hornets' success this season.
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: But that four-point play was badass.
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: His reaction after he hit that shot, by the way,
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: a stone cold kill.
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: I know you got hurt on the play. He did.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: I hope he's all right for this week. He wasn't
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: on the injury report, was he? He had a look
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: on his eyes like, yeah, I hit that shot.
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: He's a bad dude, man. He's a bucket getter. While
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: EC was yelling chicken salad. And he's like, man, we're
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: going to play that later.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: For those of you wondering, where's the Wolfpack fans might
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: be like, where's my Wolfpack talk?
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: We finally canned Doran. I need to hear about it.
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: We might hire Phillip Rivers. That's coming up.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: We're going to do a little Hornets. Wolfpack combination. It's
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: kind of the two things, Bone, that are big deals.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: The up and down Hornets weekend from booze to bounce back.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: And then we've got the Wolfpack situation. So we'll do
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: those at 925. Booze and boo. So allow us one
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: more time to get this Panther game out of our system,
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: but to kind of look ahead a little bit. And
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: I do want to give you a little tease here.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: If you can make it through more venting about this
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: Panther debacle yesterday, you will get a reward. In about
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes, right around 9, 18 or so, we will
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: play a clip that I heard driving home yesterday that
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: was absolute glorious radio. I'm listening to the postgame show,
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: and this guy Johnny, who I've heard on there before,
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: and Johnny's the type of guy that only seems to
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: call in after losses because then it fits his narrative
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: of just apparently hating the team that he says he
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: roots for and hating Bryce Young, the quarterback on the
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: team that we were chanting MVP about a couple weeks ago.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: But anyway, Johnny is going off on Bryce on the Panthers.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: and the P-Man is trying to fend him off-bone, and
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: then Smoke Ludwig off the top rope. These boys, like
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: a great wrestling tag team, went at it with Johnny 2-on-1.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to play that post-game clip for you
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: in like 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I cannot wait to hear that. Mac, do you have
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: insight on this?
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  Speaker 5: Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Suave says, oh, my God, Mac, on the— on the
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: text line dr suave says oh my god mac i
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: felt bad for the panthers pa announcer during the game
• 4:02
  Speaker 4: we were down 33 to 6 and he was trying
• 4:05
  Speaker 4: to fire up the crowd to get the defense go
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: oh my god the crowd was dead silent who's the
• 4:11
  Speaker 4: hype up guy jake Yeah. My God, Jay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, between Jake and the dudes, like Charles Johnson and
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: the guys that had to hit to keep pounding drum
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: in the third quarter, it's like y'all got no hope.
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  Speaker 3: That's a tough crowd out there, y'all. So I did.
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  Speaker 3: I fell for them, too. So, Bone, let's ask this question.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like what does the game say big picture?
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: Do you think it says like, oh, crap, we've overrated
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: this team? Or do you think it's just an aberration?
• 4:40
  Speaker 4: I think it says that even when they play well
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: or have a win or back to back wins, that
• 4:47
  Speaker 4: they are still in that one of those teams in
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  Speaker 4: the league, which is most of them, that they can
• 4:54
  Speaker 4: still have bad weeks. Now, their bad weeks are worse
• 4:57
  Speaker 4: than most. like the second half of Chicago. We can't
• 5:00
  Speaker 4: say the full Chicago game because they were in that
• 5:03
  Speaker 4: for a half, but second half of Chicago all day yesterday,
• 5:06
  Speaker 4: despite them getting better and our vibes feeling better about
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: where the franchise is and where it's going, that they still, Mac,
• 5:14
  Speaker 4: cannot take a team lightly. We cannot take a week off.
• 5:17
  Speaker 4: We cannot take our eyes off the prize, whether it
• 5:19
  Speaker 4: be as the fans, as the coaches, as the players,
• 5:21
  Speaker 4: the whole organization, everyone around here, that they can still
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: lay a giant egg any given week against anybody.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And I think we all we are.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: Not we are not so far ahead in the south.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: But we are just like the other team still. And
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: we're not far enough ahead in our rebuild to where
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: we are above this crap, unfortunately. And that is humbling.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Vape shop NIL. That's a name there says it sucks
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: worse because the Falcons beat the Niners.
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: And the Niners came back, made it interesting. But Brock
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: Purdy threw another interception. See where even the great Brock
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: Purdy can have a rough day. Pat Mahomes, brutal night
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: last night. So that's the one thing I would say
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: about jumping to Bryce Young conclusions. I still think the
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: dude has grown leaps and bounds as a quarterback, but
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: he also, Bone, is not above a game like yesterday
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: as well, where last week, one of the big things
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: I was hitting everybody was with, man, If his game
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: against Philly, 90-plus rating, two touchdowns, zero picks, 281 yards,
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: if that's the low end, if that's a bad game
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: for him, man, this dude is now special.
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: Well, newsflash, Mackey, that's a bad game.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: What he played the other day was not his best
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: stuff against Philly, but a pretty good game. This was
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: an abomination. Now, he was under pressure. Walker and Hunt
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: had abysmal days. I just, yeah, Bryce and the team
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: are not beyond days like that.
• 6:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Panthers have had great days. They've had
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: awful days. The Falcons, Mac, got blown out by us
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: at home. The Bears at home. But they beat the Niners.
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: At home, Tampa Bay's two wins are on the road
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: at Dallas and at the Panthers with their run game.
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: The Saints beat the Ravens, right, on the road at
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: one point, but yet they have five losses still. It
• 7:07
  Speaker 4: feels like any given week, these teams, they're still all
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: jumbled up, and that's what's frustrating about yesterday. I thought
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: we were maybe at a point of maybe... A little
• 7:16
  Speaker 4: separation from the others, but Atlanta wins. Tampa Bay, of course,
• 7:21
  Speaker 4: beat us, and now everyone's just jumbled up again. Even
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: the Saints are not good but hanging around there.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: All we wanted was a little separation, Boney. That's all
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: we wanted, and we got none, and we're going to
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: have to deal with it. 704 number says, y'all, I'm
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: going to say it, and no one's going to want
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: to hear it this morning. We're beating the Packers on
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: Thursday night. I've seen it before from this team. Just
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: when you think, oh, you're hot garbage now. They come
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: out and play an inspired ball. We brought this up earlier. Now,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: you're right. Probably most people don't want to hear that.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: But if you think about the trend Zoki brought up
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: last year, Buffalo blew us out in our house. They
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: went to Lambeau as 14-point underdogs and won.
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: And that was his 12-10, the games after losses in
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: his coaching career.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: How about the Niners game last year? Niners beat us.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: Ugly football game. Very disappointing on Monday night. We come
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: back and beat the Rams as 10-point favorites. So there
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: is a precedent for that. With that said, I am
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: not ready for that kind of talk just yet. I
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: am ready to acknowledge I do expect a spirited effort.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Green Bay is going to feel
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: desperate like Tampa did yesterday. And like you said, Bone,
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: we didn't match their desperation that Tampa had. Green Bay
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: at 4-3 in that division they're playing in, you might
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: as well be 2-5. Because they're in last place in
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: that division. They have to be kicking themselves the way
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: they lost that game late, Bone. The missed field goal
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: and the way they lost that game. And they have
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: things like Jacobs is back, and then you throw in, Bone,
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: the passing game and what that's capable of doing.
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  Speaker 3: Like, so I don't know what to say yet about Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to attack the Panthers the opposite of the
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: way that the Buccaneers did.
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  Speaker 3: That's the problem.
• 8:58
  Speaker 4: The Buccaneers was all running the way that the Packers
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: love those deep shots and take chances. They are going
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: to try to attack the DBs in this game big
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: time for the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely. And just tell me one of them will not
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: be a Caleb Evans. It can't be. Not in this game. Please, God, no. Like,
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: you've got Watson. You've got Golden out there making plays.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: And Love, who's hot despite the loss, hot.
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, at one point yesterday, he was on pace. He
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: got really slowed down in the second half as the
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: game kind of got more defensive. He was on pace
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: at one point yesterday for 400 yards against the Lions.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: It slowed down through the game, but he was having
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: a hell of a start to that game yesterday.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: He was, and he's been playing like that for the
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: last couple weeks, too. JJ, do not put Evans on
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: that plane. Brian says, I got great news for y'all.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: We will not give up 250 rush yards. The bad
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: news is Jordan Love will throw for four bills. That's
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: my concern. That's the thing.
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: I'm still stuck on yesterday, though. I'm not fully into
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: like the I'm going to get there, but I'm I'm
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: still angry about yesterday. Not going to concern. I mean, yes,
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: we can talk about it, but. You know, I'm still
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: trying to get over yesterday. Never mind Green Bay coming
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: up here.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: This texter says, I don't give a damn about Green Bay, Denver, Baltimore,
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: whoever it is. That team showed you the lack of
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: pride yesterday when they laid down against the sorry Buck squad. Yeah,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't blame you for feeling
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: that way. It was and we've been venting all day.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: We've been angry all day because, again, we thought you
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: were past that. And here you show us you can
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: still when you do trip up, man, you just you
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: trip and you fall and bloody your nose and it
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: gets ugly. I will say, Bone, they're not like we
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: know most performances will not be like that. And we
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: do know, I'm telling you, this team is still going
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: to play games the rest of the way that will
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: have you feeling good about the team again. The problem is,
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: where are you really going to get bone in your
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: growth if you continue to be that inconsistent? You might
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: be able to win the South again, but what are
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: you really doing when you get to the playoffs? If
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: you're capable of playing like that, when a team, you
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: When a team pressures you and runs the ball.
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, beating, beating green Bay would be great, but
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: then do you, do you have another home? What down
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: against Denver?
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It just feels like we're going to be on this. Yo,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: you called it a yo-yo. It's still thinking about yo-yo
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: back and forth, you know?
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: Um, no, I will say the schedule is coming up
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: for both Atlanta and Tampa. Mac are, uh, relatively difficult.
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay and Atlanta play each other on Sunday. Then
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay has at the Bears and at the Lions
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: before us again. Atlanta, although they beat the Niners yesterday, Matt,
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: they've got Tampa. They've got Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota, Detroit.
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of losses there for Atlanta. But again,
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: in this division, who knows week-to-week who may end up
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: winning some of these games.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: No, it's legit.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: This dude said it's a week-to-week league. I think that's
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: all we can say. Yeah, but the weeks that are bad,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: like two of these weeks have been humiliating from a
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: defensive standpoint. Yesterday, from a whole team standpoint. Chicago, from
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint. Ultra Nostalgia Bone says, where were the
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: Panthers at this point last season? 3-3 also, right?
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: Because didn't we start 1-3 and then won three in
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: a row to get to 4-3?
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: I'm double-checking, but I believe you're right.
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: That is correct. Remember, they lost.
• 12:28
  Speaker 7: Jacksonville, Arizona, home win over Atlanta, road blowout loss to
• 12:33
  Speaker 7: New England, and then they ratted off the three straight
• 12:36
  Speaker 7: wins to get to 4-3.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we were.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: We were 2-3, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 5-4, 5-5, 6-5, 6-6, 7-6, 7-7, 8-7, 8-8, 8-9.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: And I guess what I would say, Bone, is last
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: week I did, and maybe I screwed it up. Maybe
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: I messed up again. Bone says, yep.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: I came on and announced, I am back on the
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: 10-win wagon! How do you feel now? Your king has returned.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Where is the what? Where is the sheet now, by
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: the way?
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: I think they finally trashed that horrible-looking thing. Oh, no.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: I think that happened. Smoke probably did that in the
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: middle of the game yesterday out of frustration. Smoke, shoot it. But, like,
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: I made that big announcement.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Now should we be back to feeling like, yeah, this
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: is an eight-win, maybe nine-win football team? It's a team similar.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: And I didn't want to be similar to last year.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted to feel like we had grown from last year.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Yesterday kind of throws that thought into doubt, you know? But, hey,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: we got good news for you. You can at least
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: laugh at Johnny. Johnny is the villain in this clip.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: He likes to troll Bryce, troll the Panthers bone, although
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: he claims to be a diehard Panther fan, calling the
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: postgame show with Willie P and Smoke Ludwig. You'll hear
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: him whining. The P-man is trying to fend him off,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: and then Smoke Ludwig comes off the top rope bone.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: This is brilliant radio.
• 13:57
  Speaker 8: You know what stats are for?
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: Losers. Am I correct? Does that mean you're a loser?
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Because you just used a lot of stats.
• 14:04
  Speaker 8: Throughout this phone call. I don't have any stats. I
• 14:06
  Speaker 8: don't play.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: But you just used the stats throughout your phone call,
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: so you just completely.
• 14:10
  Speaker 8: You know, this is a problem with your... Before you
• 14:12
  Speaker 8: hang up on me, go ahead and hang up while
• 14:13
  Speaker 8: I say this. This is a problem with your station. Y'all...
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: What is.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: What is the problem with our station?
• 14:18
  Speaker 8: Behind this quarterback from day one because they put their
• 14:22
  Speaker 8: owner's station, and that owner is behind them.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: They're not on our station.
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: We don't have the Panthers.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: We have no gratitude or anything on the station.
• 14:32
  Speaker 8: Why is this other guy on there? When you attack
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: the show, he's got to say something rude. He's not
• 14:37
  Speaker 8: saying anything rude.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: You challenged the point.
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: What about your stats?
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Well, you just called everyone at your stats losers. I
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: have no stat.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: How else are you supposed to determine whether or not somebody's–
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: get him out of here.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Johnny doesn't want to.
• 14:52
  Speaker 8: Get me out of here because you're wrong.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, P-Man and Smoke. Hit him with the one-two punch, baby.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Hit him with a one-two.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my god that is so entertaining i was listening
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: at driving home we know and i was dying i.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: Don't have stats i don't play yeah we know that.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Smoke is saying sir you just provided stats which if
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: stats are for losers why would you be citing stat
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: smoke played him man Smoke took time out bone from
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: texting all of us at the station with his conspiracy
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: theories about yesterday's Panther game with his, uh, thoughts about the, uh,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: NASCAR next gen car bone with his thoughts on whether
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: or not Kyle Larson was below the yellow line. Smoke
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: took time out of all his causes yesterday that he
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: was texting us about to take care of the villain Johnny,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and that was beautiful.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: God, that was great stuff, boys. There's a current wrestler, Matt,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: named Bronson Reed. He does the Tsunami off the top rope.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Johnny just got Tsunami right there by Smoke Mugley.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Smokey, get him, baby. And then P came back. Oh, gosh. Anyway.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: we focus on the other team booed in town this weekend,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: the Hornets. And could NC State really hire Phillip Rivers
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: as their next head coach?
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: It's Mac Bone, Phinney, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: I told the group.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, this is great for us at home,
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: on the road. If you hear boos, like, you got
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: to be able to play better basketball. That's not something
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: that we can control.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: They are fans. They are entitled.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: And if we're not playing good basketball, I think they
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: understand the game.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: So we totally respect it and we just got.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: To play better.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: That is Charles Lee.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: So that was him before the game on Saturday at
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the Hive, the one that they would eventually win, Bone,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: while playing amazing in the third quarter to get a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: 20-point lead. playing horribly for six minutes and blowing the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: entire lead, only to finish.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: It off and send everybody home happy.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: But that is before that game, the night after losing
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: by 47, when the fans, and I say good on you,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I say good on you for voicing your opinion, just
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: like I say good on the fans at the Panther
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: game for voicing their displeasure, but fans booing at a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: home opener booth. man it was crazy in the first half.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: They were so happy in the pregame it's the quickest
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: like most joyous celebration of because we were out there
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: for the pregame show and i was saying man it
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: is uh i saw walker man these people are hyped
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: up even without mellow like they're happy I didn't, I
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: did not foresee Mac. I could kind of tell by
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the matchup that night, like, okay, this, this might be
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: a tough night for Brandon just based off the defense
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: they're going to throw at him.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: But I did not see booing happening that night though.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I did not know that was going on there before
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: they got to have franchise.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I got a standing ovation night one when they got
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: beat by 40, the first game ever.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: That was 40 years ago. And times have changed in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: this little old town here, Boney. But, um, We do
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in Charlotte, and fans probably do this everywhere. It's probably
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: not just us. But we can turn a smile into
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a frown into a full-blown you're dead to me rant
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: in just the blink of an eye. Because the same
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: thing happened at the Panther game yesterday, Bone. At the doghouse,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the atmosphere and the vibes were like the best they
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: have been since the playoff game last year.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Like, people were so giddy. There were hardly any Bucs
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: fans at the doghouse. The weather was beautiful. Fans were optimistic.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Fans were telling me, we're going to.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Blow them out.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: We're going to blow them out. And I'll be damn
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: boned if by the time halftime hit, 33-6. I mean,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: fans weren't even sure they liked Luke Kuechly anymore when
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he was up there talking.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Like, they were miserable.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So we can turn very quickly. What did you think, Bone,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: about the whole rollercoaster Hornets experience this weekend? I got
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to be honest, losing by 47 is far from ideal.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: It was humiliating. It was pathetic. It was embarrassing.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But splitting the weekend, like looking at the big picture,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: not having Khan, not having Kobe, not having Grant and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: splitting that weekend.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I'll take it, man. I'll take it. Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: They very easily could have lost that second game with
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: a blow 20 point lead or whatever the number was,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: but they, they hung on some vets like Grayson Allen
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: definitely stepped up.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Look, it was the way that they lost.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, to have only four starters, score 18 points
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: total outside of Reed at 17 on Friday night, the
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: other four starters at 18, then they get to the
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: foul line. It was just one of those terrible, awful games.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe if that happens back in mid-January in the middle
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: of the season, it's a big deal, but.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Night one, where the fans are happy and everyone's watching,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: makes it even worse.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: But I will say, for as bad as the Hornets
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: were that night, and they were, I.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Just felt going in, when you've got the wing defenders
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: that Atlanta has versus Brandon Miller and not all the
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: starters helping out because of injury right now, that was
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: going to be a tough game. game no matter what
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't see a 40 point loss but I thought
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: to myself this is going to be a tough game
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and it turns out it was more than I thought
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: it makes sense and I thought that was a bad
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: matchup that night I thought Brandon came back the next
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: night I think he took it personal I think the
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: whole team took it personal that's the thing I love
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: is they came back they play with an edge on
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Saturday from the jump like oh they're pissed coach said
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: they're pissed before the game and they showed it and
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: that's all I'm asking for from the Panthers see I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: can't get away for the damn Panthers is.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: To be pissed off Be pissed off. You're human. You
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: get embarrassed.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Get pissed off and respond. And the Hornets did that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And I thought Brandon did that, Bone. That 34-point night
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and to be aggressive, I love it. Shoot 29 times, bro.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: There's no Khan walking through that door and there's no Kobe.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of shots to be had. Get your
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: mellow on. Get your mellow on and try to put
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: us on your back a little bit. He had 20 points, Bone,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: in the first 17 minutes of playing time for himself.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Ended up with 34. Had a big jumper late. Got
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to the foul line throughout the game, including late in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that game when we needed him to.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Dish four assists. Grabbed seven rebounds.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And some of the defense he played on Saturday night,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I thought when he got ISO'd up, it's like, that's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the two-way wing right there. Now, I noticed Charles Lee, Bone,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: is noticing– The pressure that's on Brandon post-new contract and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: without Khan and Kobe, and a lot of the trash
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that's being talked about him after the first two games.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: He was 2-14 Friday night, struggled in game one shooting.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Listen to Charles Lee on Saturday night talk about Brandon
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: bouncing back.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: You know, that's why you never overreact to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Shooting numbers or shooting slumps or, you know, one game
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: sample sizes.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: That guy has a body of work that is just
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: very impressive.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: And, you know, though he may be struggling offensively, he
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: creates so many good things for us on the offensive end.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I thought his defense today was like much improved. That
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: steal he gets on Larson at a crucial moment. I
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: just think that that's just who he is. That's the
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: type of consistent competitor he is. He wants to be
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: an elite two-way player, and he showcased it today.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Do you think people have been too hard on Brandon
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: through the first couple of games? Or do you think, hey, dude,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that comes with the contract?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, part of it comes with the contract.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: But we also, as I said after game one, have
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: to remember this guy, just because he signed the contract,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean his body's ultimately ready to go to start
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the year in full. He needs to work his way
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: back in a little bit here coming off the surgery.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: So we've got to give it a little bit more time.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: And you already saw the other day. He started to
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: show signs that he's breaking out of the slump. So
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little early to start saying he's
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: overpaid and he's this and he's that. I think people
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: just react to that way too early into a season
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: when he's coming off of the surgery also.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's such a new role. He didn't play a lot
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: this summer. It's such a new role for him, too.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Without his buddies. First of all, you took Lamello away,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: who would set him up a lot. And then you
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: took away Khan and Kobe, and it's like, there are times, like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you cannot deny the amount of times the ball's given
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to him late in the shot clock, go get a bucket.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like that at all in the past. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's adjusting to it. And I think he
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: hit some big buckets, Bo, that way. on saturday night
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but i don't think you know it's not gonna be
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: without some hiccups it's a completely different role for him
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: but i think he's gonna get it i think he's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: gonna get there not to mention when the help comes
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: back from con and kobe too it'll be more balanced
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: in terms of who got to get you a bucket
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: late in the shot clock.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: One thing that's been a little eye-opening to me mac
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: is the um The lack of free throw attempts. Also,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: they've got a that goes into the whole physicality thing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Am I not mistaken? Has Nas Reed attempted a foul
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: shot all year?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: No, zero. Zero free throws.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Three games for a guy that's involved in that much
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: stuff in the paint and doing all that stuff. No
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: free throw attempts for him. That's a little bit. We
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: need to see him get some points on the line
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: here a little bit. He's still scoring a hell of
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of points. He is, but I mean, if
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: you add three or four more points from the foul line,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: what's the guy averaging?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I do feel like Bone, Nas Reed is another guy
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I wanted to mention. There are too many times, too,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the ball gets thrown to him late in shot clocks.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, Nas, go create something from the wing. They
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: didn't ask him to do that near as much in Minnesota. No,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: he's more of the guy that benefits from the creation.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: So I do think he is trying to carry more
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of a load. I'm very surprised he hadn't shot a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: free throw. But, again, I want Kobe and Khan back.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But who knows when that's going to be because they
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: don't tell us anything. They're out tonight. But DeVance is
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: out tonight for Washington. We've got to give the Wolfpack
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: fans some content here, and I'm sure we'll do more
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of it tomorrow, firing of Dave Dorn after that Stanford
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: train wreck loss on Friday night.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Um, like, are y'all, are y'all happy about this?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: If you're a state fan, I would have to think like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to dance on his
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: grave bone. It's not like he was Matt roll for
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the Panthers or, you know what I mean? Something that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: just went so horribly. And the dude triggered you. Like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he gave y'all a lot of good years. Um, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it just feels like sometimes it's just time to go.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: It feels like time, man. And it feels like state
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: fans want the administration to ask, can we do more
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: than good?
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: And I find it, so I think if you're a
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: State fan, you've got to be happy about the news.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: DJ Elliott's gone too, the D coordinator. My God, that
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: defense has turned into a mess the last few years.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: The general manager's gone. Andy Staples said something like they're
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: going to have a new AD too, and everybody's like, what, really?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Is that true? And then, so it's not just the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Doran part of the conversation. It's then the question of,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I know y'all love Phillip Rivers, right? but he's only
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: coached high school ball like he's doing right now in Alabama.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I know Gunner's going there, but is he ready for
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that job?
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: And it's a double-edged sword because that can work, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: then you have a coach that you know is not
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: going to go anywhere, a quarterback that's not going to
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: jump in the portal. But if it doesn't go well,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: then it gets a little bit awkward, Mac. CBSSports.com, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: can't actually– it's a link to– pack power but the
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the picture of the candidates list is billy napier from james.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Madison didn't put that guy off the list although hiring
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: a jmu coach isn't the worst that's true that's true
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: um by the way a texter keeping us honest naz
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: read one free throw in the nets game missed it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: So one. But I think your point still stands. Well,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: his percentage is zero still. That is true. He's having
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: 20 points, nine boards, three assists a game, though. But
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the free throw line could help. He's got to get
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: there a little bit here.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: As far as the Wolfpack go, AC says, honestly, it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: too bad for him.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Where's this at here?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Doran did some really good things at state. He should
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: have been able to go out on his own terms
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: after the season. I think, though, that's we've seen this
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: trend lately where schools want to get out front. Right.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: And maybe it is Philip Rivers.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because the one thing is, if you get
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: out front, the guys can't leave where he's at.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Can't pull a Lane Kiffin. how much does it help you?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Although I guess, I guess you can still kind of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: know who the guy is come to a deal, even
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: if you don't announce it and maybe do some stuff
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: kind of through back channels. But I just think they
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: want to get out front. They knew they were done
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: with them. And I think they want to get out front.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I felt the same way about James Franklin. Like, yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it was probably time to go, but did Penn state
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: really have to do that to him? Like five games
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: after he made the national semifinal. But I think it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the trend now, Bone. I think schools want to be
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: out front because we got Portal coming. We've got money
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: we got to raise for the new coach.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Here are the names from ESPN.com, right? Five names for
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: NC State. Phillip Rivers, we've talked about him. Scott Satterfield.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Georgia D.C. Glenn Schumann. Memphis coach Charles Huff. and Wake
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Forest head coach Jake Dickert. I keep seeing Dickert pop up.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Do you think Dickert would leave?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I know there's more resources at NC State, but do
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you think he would leave Wake for State?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think Manny or
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Dickert are leaving for a job. That's another one. Staples
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: was talking about Manny, too.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think those guys, Mac, would be leaving for—
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Manny's got the Florida tie, so Florida State. I don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: think Dickert's leaving for a job in the ACC. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: think Dicker would go SEC, Big Ten. I think Dicker
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: wouldn't do that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Manny, I could.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Florida State might come calling for Manny, so I can't
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: say 100%. But I would think that those guys would go...
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Would Jake Dicker leave for Clemson? Like, to me, it
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: just has... That's interesting. It has to be a job
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: at a high.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Like, to me, jumping from Wake to State is not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: enough of a jump to make it worth it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Plus, you're leaving Wake....
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: A place that I do believe Boney has really taken to,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and you're leaving for a rival like that?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Like, that's the angle, too.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Like, it's not a big enough jump, is it, to, like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: for the backlash you're going to get from Deke fans
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: if you leave.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't think. Same with Manny. This is probably it
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: for C.J. Bailey then, right? He probably enters the portal, right?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: You would think?
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Is he not going pro at some point? When the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: hell is he going to the damn NFL? I thought
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: it might be last year. Now I think it might
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: be this year. As far as that list goes, though,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: there's some good names on that damn list, man.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Charles Huff is good. Charles Huff. That would be his
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: fourth school in four years, which is crazy. It's like
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: a player.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But he wins everywhere and he takes players with him.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: The Indiana coordinators are interesting names. Cignetti's been able to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: hold on to those guys. Both of those guys are
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: interesting names. Mike Shanahan, right? Shanahan on offense. And is
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it Haynes? Is that the name of the guy on
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the defensive side?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: No, not that Mike Shanahan. Schumann from Georgia, D.C. is interesting.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And then you go to a guy like this dude
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Eck at New Mexico, right? People are raving about this guy. So, but,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't know, but Phillip Rivers is a little
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: enticing bone because you could totally see him come in
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and gout. You've already seen one of their big boosters,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Andy Albright, pump him up on social media, that picture
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of the two of them. Like if you can get
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: that state money popping, Because they've had more money than
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Wake and Duke, but they haven't had as much money
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: as the top schools in the ACC. I could see
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a big influx of money if Philly Riv takes that job.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Here's the SI list that they have up there. Jake
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Dickard on that list as well. P.J. Fleck, when he
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: rowed his boat to Raleigh-Mack. Jason Eck, you just mentioned.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Dan Mullin.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Jeff Traylor is the coach at Texas San Antonio. Watch
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: out for him to Baylor, potentially, by the way. Lance Taylor,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Western Michigan. Philly Riv.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Shanahan, we mentioned.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Schumann and Buster Faulkner is going to be a big
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: name out there, the current OC for the Florida Gators,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: formerly of Georgia Tech.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: He's an interesting name, too. No doubt about it, man.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Boiled Peanuts says, if the Bills were impressed with Rivers
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in an interview, why on earth wouldn't State hire him? Yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that's the thing is the intel out of that. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: we all thought it was crazy. Phillip Rivers, high school coach, Bills,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: NFL interview. But apparently he really impressed people. I saw
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the article. One of the articles was Feldman talking about
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: how people are wowed by the fact that Phillip Rivers...
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: basically called a lot of his own plays when he
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: was quarterback he's seen as even though he's got this
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like fiery southern guy's got the twang and the fire
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: he has seen bone as brilliant like so there is
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that could you get yourself a star who would this
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: dude said i gotta be honest as a state fan
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: if you can raise funds i think that's more important
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: than actual coaching acumen it's fair It's risky, but I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: understand the enticing nature of it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: In a few years, in the suburbs, in the Triangle,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: there could be an entire area that is all just
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: rivers and knipples.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: An entire suburb of rivers and knipples. Oh, my God.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Carolina Kelly says, he says, on what happened with Dave Dorn,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I think the phrase is unceremoniously, uncere, how do I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: say that word?
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Unceremoniously. We speak for a living. Unceremoniously. There you go.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: You got it, baby. You got it. Turn it down.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: He says dismiss.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Unceremoniously dismissed is what he's saying.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Also, we got to wish somebody on this show a
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: happy birthday. Someone's got a big old 53 today on
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: the Mac and Bone show. Sports Radio 92.7. Someone's got
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: a birthday. I wonder who.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Shot clock's down to three.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Grayson Allen!
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: Yes!
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Chicken salad dough! E.C., baby. E.C.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Back in full effect on that Grayson Allen four-point play.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: That was mammoth bone. The game was in the balance.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: We were looking like we might follow up a 47-point
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: L by blowing a 20-point lead. And Grayson Allen said,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: hell no.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Hornets said, not this weekend. We'll do something right here
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: in between the misery on Friday and Sunday.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Not tonight.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: I'm aroused.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe on Monday against the Wizards, maybe we'll do
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: something that'll piss y'all off, but not tonight.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: And how dare these teams. Have bad weekends when my
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: man Mac is celebrating the birthday today.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: How about that? That's right.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: It feels very celebratory. It feels very celebratory today. And
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Finney's like, what do you got going on? What do
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you got happening? I don't know about the rest of y'all.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: When you're 53, it really doesn't feel like, yay, I'm one.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Year closer to death.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't quite hit the same way as when
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you're younger.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: No, the milestone birthdays are far and few between. After 40,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: you kind of just.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Ah, all right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. 50 is significant, but
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: it's significant like, holy crap, this is bad.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: The age 50, right? Not 50. You mean at the
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: age of.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: 50, right?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Like, birthdays are no longer a good thing, I feel like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: when you're old.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: But I do appreciate folks saying nice things today.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: When you're younger, it's like, yeah, I'm about to turn 21.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: No one's like, yeah, come on, 50, baby. Yeah. Give
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: me big 5-0.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I got to tell you, Mac, you don't look or
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: act 53, though.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I definitely don't act it. I don't know if I look.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: This gray beard is getting there.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: It's so bad, Bo, when I was at the store,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I was checking out the Just For Men for my beard.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, do I dare dye the beard? Because my
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: head's been able to stay non-gray pretty much. The beard, though,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: is going, man. Ain't no play for Mr. Gray.
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: Hey, look, Mac, the salt and pepper look is in.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think if you could get some salt
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: and pepper.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Going, okay, I'd spice things up for you in the missing.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: No one is more comfortable talking about guys than Fiddy
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Morrow is.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I believe the spice, Fiddy.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I believe the spice rack might be a little emptier.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: You got that old spice. We got some old spice.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Might be a little emptier than it was back in
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not using an Italian deodorant. Fiddy smelled it for me.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Fiddy sniffed my armpits the other day.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: He liked it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: And that wasn't the worst thing that happened in Charlotte
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: this weekend.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I found this deodorant for the Italian man, and
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I'm using it right now.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: There you go, man. It's called Cremo or something. I
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's delightful.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Whatever works for you, baby. Whatever works for you. All right.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: 704-5709-610.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: If y'all want to send your text in, fire them
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: into us here. We're getting ready to read some of
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: them off. Do want to mention tonight, you got Hornets
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Wizards tonight. Still no con, Kobe or.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Grant uh but you do have bone and kb with
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the pregame six o'clock tonight the game is at the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: uh tonight at seven so we got that going on
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: we've got world series game three tonight on fox at
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: eight and you also have obviously monday night football um
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: i'm not even gonna mock the nfc lease today bone
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: i don't feel i don't feel very hoity-toity today like
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: i did last week um you have two and four
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: dallas two and four philly tonight.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: And then you've got Philly also on Sunday Night Football
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: next week as well against the Commanders. Still not sure
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: how that game was not flexed out of there. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: we've got Philly on tonight and Sunday Night Football.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And Bone, we talked earlier about UNC probably had a
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: chance at game day if they beat Syracuse. and it
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: didn't happen. Still on ABC on Saturday night, but not
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a game day game. The Panthers, is it official, Bone,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that yesterday the Carolina Panthers killed the conversation of, hey,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you think they're going to flex the Denver Panther game?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: I think we just want them in their one o'clock
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: spot and don't even notice what they're up to.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Just put them... Yeah, put them on 1 o'clock and
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: just let them be there.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: You don't think we have to worry about changing our
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: plans for that night?
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think we're lucky if they let us play an
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: NFL game after Sunday. And they'll find a way to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: relegate us, Bone. Because especially McAfee, because they announced that Tuesday, right?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So if the Panthers lay another egg... against the Green Bay,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: just hypothetically speaking. And then are people going to be
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: really fired up that they get that Sunday night game,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: their next game out after two eggs in a row?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: No.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: That would be way too many eggs. That would be
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: an omelet.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Let's read some of these texts here before we get
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: out of here. Keep them coming, y'all. 704-570-9610 if you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: want to jump in. JP in Mooresville says, so for
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Mac's birthday, we got the Mac curse for the whole weekend.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Some of y'all did. Some of y'all didn't. There was
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a bad case here on Friday Night Boat. Bad case
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: on Sunday here in Charlotte. Chapel Hill had an outbreak. Um,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: but I feel like, I feel like, uh, Hokeyville, Gamecockville,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was good. College you did okay.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't do well enough. A lot of people are asking.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I did not do well enough on picks though to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: beat Picante.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Picante beat me two, two and one to one and two.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: And Picante's pick segment survives to the shock of nobody.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: So Picante survives, but HB from, or, uh, H.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: BP from the HB. Yeah, he did not survive for
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the pep talk this week. Feel free to send in
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: your pep talker applications. We need a new pep talker
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that can scream on thursday about the panthers but actually
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: scream positive stuff is what you need to do uh
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: let's see what else we have here um uh this
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: texture says rivers and canipples is the dirtiest thing i've
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: ever heard without any dirty words in.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: It yeah At some point today, just say Rivers and
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Knievels and you're better off for it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Another texter says, would Phillip Rivers even have time to
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: do the recruiting with all the baby making going on?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I chuckled. I chuckled.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Phillip Rivers to the Panthers as coach, somebody says. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: think that was coach, not quarterback, I think. Kannapolis Man says,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: we need to tank for better DBs.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: I believe we have a couple coming back here relatively soon.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think you tank for DBs. Not when you're
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: leading a division.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Why would someone leading a division after six games tank
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to get a quarterback?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: We should lose games for a corner. Yeah, that doesn't
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: make a whole lot of sense. Weatherman Mark has checked in.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Said he is no longer bone banning himself from the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: text line because Johnny pissed him off so much that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: he's back. He's a Bryce-hating jackass. He also said, though,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I've reduced my win total from 13 to 6.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Yes. Weatherman Mark's retirement was like a Brett Favre one.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: So hold on.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: He hates Johnny for hating on the Panthers, but he
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: then took seven wins off his total.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I've worried with Weatherman Mark. Just don't try to make
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: sense of this.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Um texter says it felt like yesterday canalis was calling
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the plays again didn't feel like it's a game at
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: all um i think and and lindsey rose roads was
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: tweeting about this from sumer sports uh bryce didn't get
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the ball downfield bone way less downfield attempts he had
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: been throwing it downfield completing downfield he only had 19
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: percent passes attempted 10 yards or more only hit three
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of them it's because he only had 2.4 seconds before
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: pressure And he got pressured a ton. Like, he didn't
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: have the time bone to get the ball downfield yesterday.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: We'll leave you with this, Mac. First-time texter. They drove
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: from New England to see their Panthers at the bank
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: for the first time ever yesterday.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: That was their first-ever game in person, and now they're
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: driving back.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Holy crap. Panthers, you want to send at least some
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: gas money to these kind folks? I mean, seriously.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: My goodness.
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: All right, we got to get out of here, y'all.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: We will talk to you tomorrow. That went well. You
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: know what?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: We're flushing, though.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I was not going to be like the Panthers and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: flush it before we got it out of our system,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: but now we are going to flush it, Bo. We
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: are going to move on. We are going to move
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: on on tomorrow's show. Oh, it feels good now. We
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: got to get out of here. We'll recap the Hornets
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: as well. Duke had a huge exhibition win. Bo, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: your Blue Devils didn't even get talked about. That's a shame, man.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I can stick around college, Joe. All right, we're out
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of here, y'all. Good work out of Bone. Fitty, bad
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: work out.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Of the Panthers.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to y'all tomorrow on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Colin Hoggard, Charlotte Sports Today. More venting, I'm sure, coming up.