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A bitter end to the Vikings season, Sore backs, and how to pronounce GIF? | TSH Ep. 76 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
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  Speaker 1: The School Half. I'm Evan, I'm Austin. Were's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And we also had to spin the
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  Speaker 2: wheel this episode, and I don't know, man, they got
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  Speaker 2: kind of uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't great, but we also tried a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good beer from No Coast Brewing, so I enjoyed.
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  Speaker 2: That, yep. And then we gave a really great recap
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  Speaker 2: of this twenty twenty four twenty five season, especially the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of games of this season, and then we
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  Speaker 2: kind of looked ahead to what they could do early
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  Speaker 2: in the off season. Yeah. So the beer was so good.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any left, but grab a cold one
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  Speaker 1: of your choice and join us for episode seventy six
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  Speaker 1: of The School Hot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, school school and it's jiff, not gift, It's totally gift.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: what we have to do. I think we just skip it.
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  Speaker 2: We just skip it this time. It's been it's been
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  Speaker 2: a rough couple of weeks, I know, but we've committed
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  Speaker 2: to this. Yeah, and we have to do it. We
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  Speaker 2: just have to.
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  Speaker 1: So we are going to be spinning the wheel of
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  Speaker 1: purple punishments. We both picked the Vikings to win in
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  Speaker 1: this wild card round of the playoffs against the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: and they did not.
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  Speaker 2: They lost. There has been a lot of football played
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  Speaker 2: since the last time we released a full episode, So
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  Speaker 2: the last full episode was the day before We recorded
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  Speaker 2: the day before the Vikings Rams game in the wild
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  Speaker 2: card round, which I'm honestly shocked that the Vikings didn't
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  Speaker 2: win that one. Yes, the Rams are a good team
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  Speaker 2: and I respect them. It's not like I thought it
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  Speaker 2: would be a huge blowout by any means. I think
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  Speaker 2: we could probably go back. I think I predicted like
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  Speaker 2: a four point win for the Vikings or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But man, I really I'm surprised. I'm surprised if Vikings
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  Speaker 2: didn't pull it out, and we're gonna get punished for that.
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  Speaker 2: You obviously picked a win too, and yeah, we both did.
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  Speaker 1: We were both pretty confident that they would at least
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  Speaker 1: win one game and not be one and done's like
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  Speaker 1: they were two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they gotta not like the Lions. You know that
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  Speaker 2: you got to do better than the Lions did in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs, but apparently they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: So well, let's spin this, let's get it over with,
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  Speaker 1: let's figure out what our fate is, and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into beer in the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Of the episode. Yeah, so all right, we will be
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  Speaker 2: sitting in a child all right, Oh man, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: break this chair. You're not gonna break it. We are
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  Speaker 2: going to take a quick pause right now.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get that all set up, and then the
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  Speaker 1: next time you see us, we'll be down here somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, ready break, all right, we're back and
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  Speaker 3: we're in children's chairs now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm very surprised. This chair doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's given at all price, just built in the nineties
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  Speaker 2: and little tykes. Maybe yah, yeah, little tykes it is.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is, little tykes. They I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm more than a two hundred and fifty pound
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  Speaker 2: man and this little tiny yellow chair is holding me.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna be just fine. We'll see though. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: i'd buy you a new set if I break through this,
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  Speaker 2: and it would be it would make for great content,
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 1: But well, it took us a solid like ten minutes
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  Speaker 1: probably to.
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  Speaker 2: Get really ten minutes. And maybe we'll do the like
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  Speaker 2: time lapse and add that into like the end or something. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: the time lapse will make it into the final edit
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  Speaker 2: h someway somehow, because we did video record the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's been rolling the whole time. So
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  Speaker 1: regardless we're here, we are probably gonna have some sore backs,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a sword tailbowe tomorrow, and that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the true punishment, yep.
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  Speaker 2: But it's the true punishment is the back pain. We
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  Speaker 2: are along the way, So.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into this beer. Yeah. I picked up this
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  Speaker 1: beer today. It's from High Ve of course, because that's
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  Speaker 1: where we always go. No Coast Brewing out of oscar Looosa, Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: This is their coffee and cream porter.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm actually now closer to the camera so maybe
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  Speaker 1: you can see the can.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the can art looks pretty cool. I just
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  Speaker 2: opened my can. I haven't try well. I guess i'd
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  Speaker 2: licked a couple drops off my hand, but I didn't
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  Speaker 2: really get the flavor. Be careful when you open it
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  Speaker 2: because is it really full? Well, I mean there's a
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  Speaker 2: couple drops on the table and you can see the
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  Speaker 2: liquid is right at the top of Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it all over my hand. Yeah, let's actually have the uh,
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  Speaker 2: the paper towels nice and handy. But we're sitting in
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  Speaker 2: a child's table right in front of the school man's center.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's not the case. Right now, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do an Austin port because I only have one hand,
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  Speaker 2: that's all right. So so I'm really I'm really excited
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  Speaker 2: to try this one out. Did did you end up
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  Speaker 2: reading the back of it? I was more preoccupied with
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  Speaker 2: the mess that I made here. I did not. I
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  Speaker 2: can in the second when I'm finished pouring, I'll let
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  Speaker 2: the foam die down. This is well, this doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: describe it. Yeah, I saw their middle festo Festo. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that that was the description. Yeah, I mean it
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  Speaker 2: is what it is, coffee and cream porter.
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  Speaker 1: It's a coffee porter with lactose, so I think the
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  Speaker 1: lactose probably acts as the cream sure aspect. Maybe there's
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  Speaker 1: actual cream in it too. It doesn't say but this
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  Speaker 1: is a seven percenter? This is oh yeah, kind of
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  Speaker 1: heavy all right, so holds its own. So yeah, No
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  Speaker 1: Coast we had a few of their beers in the past.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could remember the last one that we
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  Speaker 1: had or the most recent No Coast that we tried,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't really remember it. Some of the ones
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  Speaker 1: that we've had were the van Go and yeah, was
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  Speaker 1: it Iowa Ipa or is that I don't think that's
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  Speaker 1: No Coast.
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  Speaker 2: And that's to go back and look at our list.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we've definitely had a few No Coast beers
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  Speaker 1: now at this point in the podcast, so I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to try this one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think we just stopped yaking and started drinking
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  Speaker 2: some No Coast beer, so it's pretty good. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that first drink was mostly foam
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  Speaker 2: for me. Yep. If you're watching one, it's hilarious because
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  Speaker 2: we're sitting in little Tyke's chairs drinking beer. But two,
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  Speaker 2: you can see it's got really good head retention. Pitch dark,
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  Speaker 2: like can't see through it at all. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: light right next to us and there's no semblance of
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  Speaker 2: light coming through that beer at all, which is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Really coffee, yeah, but not coffee, but not so strong
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  Speaker 2: like I think I always compare a coffee beer to
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  Speaker 2: single speed Tip the Cow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is like coffee. Like if you love
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  Speaker 1: coffee and you love intense coffee, that's a good beer
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  Speaker 1: for you. This doesn't remind me of that in a
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  Speaker 1: good way. Yeah, it's a little more mellow on the coffee,
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  Speaker 1: and I like Tip the cow, but this is definitely
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  Speaker 1: more on the chill side of a coffee beer.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if that's maybe because they nailed the coffee
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  Speaker 2: and cream aspect. Yeah, because I mean a cup of
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  Speaker 2: black coffee tastes pretty different than a cup of coffee
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  Speaker 2: with a couple of creams in there. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think they nailed it. It's really good and it's seven percent,
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  Speaker 2: definitely holding its own. I like this a lot, which
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  Speaker 2: is kind of crazy because, like my normal coffee drinking habits,
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  Speaker 2: I drink a lot of coffee and I can't I
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  Speaker 2: can't have it cold or cream or sugar anything. It's
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  Speaker 2: got to be just straight hot and black, hot and black.
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  Speaker 2: This is a really good flavor. I like this a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Yeah, good beer, no coast.
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  Speaker 1: We'll definitely share our final thoughts after we've gone through
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  Speaker 1: a few of these at the end of the episode.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe it'll help the discomfort I'm starting to feel
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  Speaker 2: it of. I'm starting to feel a little my knees
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  Speaker 2: are hitting my chest because I'm in this little yellow chair.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it would be worse to break
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  Speaker 2: the chair and then I'd have to sit like Indian
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  Speaker 2: style on the floor. Or something like that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know it. We'll get there. Maybe this will be a
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  Speaker 2: short episode.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty comfy now, but I do think my tailbone
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  Speaker 1: will start barking at me at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but we'll get there. We will. It's a
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  Speaker 2: journey we're on together. Can you imagine if this would
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  Speaker 2: have been one that, like I rolled and you got
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  Speaker 2: to sit in the comfy desk and I just had
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  Speaker 2: to sit in front of the desk without you. I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad we're doing this together. We're in it together man
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: And we're gonna drink a beer while we do it,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna commiserate for a little while about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that this Viking season is now over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not even bittersweet, it's just bitter. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, nobody expected the Vikings to win more
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  Speaker 2: than six seven, eight wins. But I hate that. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay they lost because we didn't expect
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  Speaker 2: them to do good anyways. Now that's loser mentality. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it does kind of make you feel a little bit better,
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  Speaker 2: but I hate it because they could have been there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you get so few opportunities to win the
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  Speaker 2: big game as an NFL team, especially when every year
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: it seems to be the Chiefs and somebody else. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just it sucks when this team has looked so
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  Speaker 2: good for so long throughout the season and then the
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  Speaker 2: last two games they just completely crumble. Yeah, and they
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: ultimately only ever lost to two different NFL teams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't blow out everybody. They had a really close
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  Speaker 2: game against the Cardinals. One point was it? Twenty five
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  Speaker 2: to twenty four? Was the final score of that game?
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  Speaker 2: Either way has a one point win. They had a
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  Speaker 2: really messy, ugly game against the Jaguars. The Titans game
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  Speaker 2: didn't look too great. So it wasn't you know, knife
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  Speaker 2: through butter all season, but many they looked really darn good.
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  Speaker 2: And Sam Darnold for a lot of the season looked
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  Speaker 2: great until the final two games and ultimately ending in
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  Speaker 2: the Rams game when he looked pretty awful. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: definitely turned into a pumpkin in those last two games.
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  Speaker 2: It was rough.
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  Speaker 1: I think, going back to your earlier comments, when you
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  Speaker 1: eclipsed that like ten eleven win mark as a team
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Once you get to that point, you
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  Speaker 1: are almost guaranteed to be in the playoffs almost obviously
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  Speaker 1: this year it wasn't a guarantee, especially in the NFC North,
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  Speaker 1: which was super competitive. But I think when you get
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  Speaker 1: to that point and you're the head coach of a team,
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  Speaker 1: you get to ten eleven wins, which the Vikings did.
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  Speaker 1: How soon when of they hit ten wins, they hit
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  Speaker 1: ten wins in Week thirteen. Yeah, they had Cardinals game
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  Speaker 1: which was twenty two, twenty three to twenty two. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, Oh okay, I had the one point win
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  Speaker 1: in my head.
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  Speaker 2: I just it was a one point win.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think at that point, you're shifting
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  Speaker 1: your focus to the playoffs. Now, the playoffs were not
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  Speaker 1: setting stone for the Vikings this year. I think any
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  Speaker 1: other team in any other division probably would have started
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  Speaker 1: to think, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs, who cares what happens the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the time. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the collapse there at the end was just kind
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  Speaker 1: of unprecedented, almost especially for a team that played really well,
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  Speaker 1: A team that put up twenty one points on the
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  Speaker 1: Falcons in the first or fourth quarter, yeh, A team
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  Speaker 1: that took the Lions basically to the end in week seven,
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  Speaker 1: a team, a team that was a few plays away
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  Speaker 1: from beating the Rams in Week eight. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's heartbreaking, Its stinks. I did see something today
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  Speaker 1: and we can talk about this later, but Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 1: is still expected to, I think, get big money.
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  Speaker 2: I would think so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what the Vikings. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us would say probably.
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  Speaker 2: Not, but yeah, I think I was seeing and even
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  Speaker 2: thinking towards the end there before that final Lions game.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of those like Sam Donald, He's earned
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  Speaker 2: his way all the way up to a more than
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  Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year contract for three, four, five,
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  Speaker 2: however many years, and it seemed like that was definitely
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  Speaker 2: going to be what would happen. And in that scenario,
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  Speaker 2: I was saying, as late as you know, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days before the Lions game, that my official stance,
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  Speaker 2: which has changed now, But for a minute, I was
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  Speaker 2: really hoping, Okay, Sam Donald, he's proven it, he's proven
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  Speaker 2: he's the one. He and Koc mix well together. I
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  Speaker 2: was saying, I wanted the Vikings to no matter what franchise,
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  Speaker 2: tag Sam Donald, which would give him probably I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be around I don't think it's set
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  Speaker 2: yet for the quarterback this coming year, but probably around
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  Speaker 2: forty ish million dollars forty forty one, forty two whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is for one year, which a hefty price tag.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably that's more than half of what the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: have in free agency money coming into it, which they
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: have quite a bit. But I wanted them to franchise
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  Speaker 2: tag Sam Donald and give JJ McCarthy a true red
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  Speaker 2: shirt year where he's not rehabbing, where he's not learning
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: how to be a professional football player. Really, let JJ
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: McCarthy be a healthy quarterback too, and then take the
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: reins as a fresh twenty three year old in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six. And maybe it's me being immature. The Lions
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  Speaker 2: game and the Rams game really changed my tune on that.
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  Speaker 2: I think, like you said, Sam Donald, he's gonna get paid.
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  Speaker 2: It might be the forty million dollars a year mark,
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  Speaker 2: but I think now it's probably more realistically like twenty
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  Speaker 2: five thirty with probably somebody else, and I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to JJ just off two rough games. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I recognize that it's crazy that my attitude has changed
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  Speaker 2: justs off two games. But that's that's where I.
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  Speaker 1: Think the entire fan base has changed their perspective on
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. I don't really know that there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people out there that are like, Yeah, bring.
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  Speaker 2: The guy back.
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  Speaker 1: He's the he's the answer, We're going to the super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl next year. I don't think that's it. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. If he came back, I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: upset about it. No, I'm not throwing, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: remote against the wall or anything. But he played well,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: and he played well through fourteen wins, and he lost
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  Speaker 1: to two teams and only two teams, proving that he
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: can beat a lot of teams in this league with
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I think some really good coaching on the sideline. His
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  Speaker 1: biggest flaw is trying to hold the ball and trying
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: to wait for a play to develop. I think he
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: would benefit from a strong offensive line, and that the
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: cracks in that were on full display in Week eighteen
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  Speaker 1: and then again in the wild card round, and.
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  Speaker 2: We could maybe get into addressing that issue here a
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  Speaker 2: little bit later in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean that was on full display and that
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  Speaker 1: didn't help him at all. I mean, he took. He
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: took nine sacks for I think, what do you lose,
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  Speaker 1: like eighty two yards? And I think those nine sacks
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: are a record in a playoff game. Yeah, and so
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  Speaker 1: to take that many sacks, to lose that many yards,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you might not have a running back. I don't know
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that Aaron Jones had eighty two yards. That just occurred
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: to me, like Sam Donald may have lost more yards
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in sacks than Aaron Jones gained rushing the ball.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: To that point, there was definitely a point in the
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: game sometime in the late second, early third that I
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: thought about that, and that the TV said something like, oh, yeah,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones just hit forty five or just hit fifty yards,
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, shoot, Sam Donald's already negated
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: that with all the sackyards. So I don't know what
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: ended being at the end of the game, but I
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: think it was pretty close. Yeah, it's Teraron Jones didn't
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: matter his yards just because those were negated.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Anyways, and then in both games it seemed like the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: coaches had kind of given up too.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: It seemed like they just kind of threw in the towel. Obviously,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: in the Detroit game, it was a foregone conclusion.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to LA, We're going to be playing
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the Rams. So and I think Kevin O'Connell even kind
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of admitted that in his postgame press conference after that game, like, well, yep,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: at some point, we just kind of knew what was
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: going to happen and we had to start preparing for
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the Rams. And I don't know what he was thinking
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: at the end of the Rams game, because it's like,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: there's nothing to prepare for now.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's win or go home. So why are we
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: running the ball in the third quarter when we're down
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: by fifteen points or whatever it was, and even punning
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the ball even I think it was something with four
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: or five ish minutes left in the game they punted
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the ball. Yep. Yeah, I think mathematically at that point
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it was it was not going to happen. But you
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: still fight, like that's that's frustrating to see just giving up. Yep.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: But it's over. At least it's over, and at least
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: it's also over for the Lions, and at least it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: also over for the Packers. I'm not one of those
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: guys that, oh no, we got a root for the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: other NFC North teams or there's a whole bunch of
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: people like, no, I want the Lions to do it
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: because they've ever done it. You're a little vindictive. Yeah no,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: if it's not me, I don't want it to be you.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And I almost I wasn't rooting for any team. You know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: after your team's out of it, you typically have like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I really hope the Texans do it this year. You
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: know that'd be really cool. And Nope, no, not at all.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I only this year had one team that I didn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: want it to happen for and they lost to the Commanders.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: So now it's I'm actually enjoying watching these playoff games now.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: So so we've got four teams left.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Washington's going to go to Philly for the NFC Championship game,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Buffalo goes to Kansas City for the AFC Championship game.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Which game are you more excited about? And who do
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you want to see in the Super Bowl?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, anything I say doesn't matter. But
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I think for me, i'd really enjoy seeing a Commander's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Bills Super Bowl.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's what most of America wants unless you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: live in Philadelphia or Kansas. Have you seen the memes
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of like the maps, the whole map, and it's like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: everybody here wants Washington and Buffalo, and everyone here and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: here wants Philly in Kansas City. And it's funny because
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: we actually, I think we recently just talked about this,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the only super Bowl ever played in the Metrodome. I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: believe it was the only super Bowl ever played in
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the Metrodome. Trivia question you gave me at another event
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. Well two, I think I guessed eighty
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: one eighty two, or I guess I think it was.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It was like January of ninety two. Anyways, the only
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: super Bowl ever played in the metro The Redskins beat
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the Bills, So that'd be interesting. I wonder if that's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that's the last time either team has made the super Bowl.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: It was ninety two, You are right, yeah, so I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's the last time either has made
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl. But yeah, that'd be that'd be okay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I would enjoy that one. I don't hate the Chiefs.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that are saying I hate
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They can't win it. They win it every year.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: They're the new Patriots. I kind of get that, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I'd be okay with them not getting it ever again,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: because they've got what three of the last four or
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: something like that. But I mean, at this point, if
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: nobody can stop them, nobody can stop them. I don't
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: like Eagles fans. They they go back and forth with
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: me on which fan base is the worst. Between them
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and the Lions right now, I don't know, they're probably
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: about tied, but I love how mad Lions are right now.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, just for the Commanders and Bills, that's that's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: who I'm rooting for.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: What about you, I'm I'm definitely in the same boat.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I'm with the rest of America, I think as well.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's the Super Bowl i'd like to see.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like Philly fans either.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I really don't like their team a whole lot, even
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: though they have some really good players, and I wouldn't
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: mind having some of them in Minnesota. That'd be nice.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And I definitely feel strongly about Kansas City. Don't want
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to see him win. They've won too much. They are
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the new Patriots in my eyes, and it's time for
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: them to be done. I mean, let's move on, let's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: get another team in there, let's get the Bills a championship.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: They I mean, they can commiserate with Vikings fans because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they've also been to four and lost four. If anybody's
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: gonna get there and win one before the Vikings, I'd
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: be happy to see the Bills. I have nothing against
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the Bills unless the Vikings are playing the Bills.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then you know I would be against
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the Bills.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But in this scenario, yeah, Buffalo, especially now that Stefan
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Diggs is not a Bill.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been the one. Like when the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Seahawks won it that one year when Percy Harvin was
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: with him. It's like, ah, Percy's a jerk. He doesn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: deserve a super Bowl and he only ever played like
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: three games and one of them was like to get
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: him to the super Bowl. Like that was annoying. But yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the Bills. I mean, I don't know if you hate
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: listeners and watchers, if you hate the Bills, let us
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: know why. I feel like Josh Allen seems to be
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: an easy guy to root for. I've never heard a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: bad word said about him.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Did you see immediately after like the clock I don't
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: even think had hit three zeros yet. And Josh Allen
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: sprinted across the field found Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson just
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: lost in the divisional round of the playoffs, and he
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: had the biggest smile on his face. Yeah, and they
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: shared a really good hug together, and I was like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's what this is all about.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: That's what football is all about. And you know, like
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: seeing that, Yeah, you know, Lamar was crushed at that moment.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Who wouldn't be right, but yeah, it was. It's as
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: if they had like planned that out. I don't know
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: if they did. I doubt they did, but it was
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: almost as if they had planned it out, like, Hey,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: no matter what happens, I'm running straight to you and
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: give me a hug, a high five, because I mean,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: those guys are connected to weren't they drafted in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: same year. They've been going back and forth on MVP,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you know honors the last couple of years. Josh Allen's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: never won one, but seems like this year could be
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the year. Hot take. I think Joe Burrow should have
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: been a lot, should be a lot more talked about
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: as an MVP. It just his team sucked around him
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: this year and they almost made the playoffs. I think
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow should be Comeback Player of the Year based
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: on the way he played last year with injury and
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: then came back, and I think he led the league
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in touchdown passes and yards and stuff. Anyways, not to
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: tangent too much, well, I think if you're gonna make
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the case for Joe Burrow as MVP, I think Sam
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Donald slightly edges Joe Burrow in that conversation. I mean,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: maybe lightly wise. Joe Burrow blows him out of the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: water and everything except for wins, then maybe not blows
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: him out of the water, but definitely beats him.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was that stretch there of I don't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: remember how many consecutive games Sam Darnold had that one
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: hundred plus passer rating, like he was throwing the ball really,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: really good. So I don't know, i'd have to do
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a kind of a one for one comparison between the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: two and the regular season. I don't know what that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: looks like, but I think some of Sam's stats and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: his win totals maybe edges him just a little bit.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he made the playoffs, I mean,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and the Bengals were right there, like they were hanging
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: on they were hoping Denver lost, and then Kansas City
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: kind of pulled a fast one on everybody, rested everybody
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and got blown out thirty eight nothing because they had
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: nothing to lose, and that sealed the deal for the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Broncos to make the playoffs.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And I think that was it. The Dolphins and the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Bengals that were waiting to get in.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, and they both needed Denver to lose,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and I think they both needed the other to lose
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: as well to get in, and of course that didn't happen.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, anyways, but all that's to say, I think,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, and we seem to keep going off
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: random branches. The MVP award this year, to me, I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna come down to Lamar Jackson and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. For me, I think it's Josh Allen. What
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: about for you? It's really tough.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I think the fact that Josh Allen is still playing
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: matters a lot, but I know they only really factor
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: in the regular season and the MVP.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure like they already like put the votes
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: in like last week, like the decision has already been made.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: It's just not public. And I don't know. I don't
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: know who's won it. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: really really close.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I think you have to go with Josh Allen though,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: because he he's done.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It all this season.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: He's run and passed really really well, and he's kind
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of given up. I heard, I think it was Tony
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Romo was calling the game and Tony Romo said, yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he's kind of giving up this gun slinger mentality and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: he's kind of settled down a little bit and he's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: kind of let the game come to him rather than
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: just trying to force stuff all the time. And that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: really going to benefit him. And it seems to have
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: benefited him in the playoffs in the snow, you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: playing in that divisional game against the Ravens. So I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: know playoffs aren't factored in, should be. I think I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: think Josh Allen edges Lamar just ever so slightly. And Lamar,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you know, he's a good running quarterback too, He's you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: he's kind of carried his team. Lamar had the benefit of,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the league's best running backs of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Asolutely Henry, so that helped him out a lot. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I think I didn't really follow the Ravens a ton
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: this year, but I think he dealt with some injury
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: too to some of his receivers and tight ends.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Well, and in the playoff games a
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Flowers he was as Flowers went out question before the game,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: he caught a touchdown and I don't know if he
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: finished the game. But and then Mark Andrews with that
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: historic drop on the two point conversion after that fumble.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: He never fumbles and he never drops balls, and a
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: fumble and a dropped ball by him this unfortunately skewed
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that game. I hope that dude's okay, because you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: awful people online have probably said terrible things, and he's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: he's a really good player. That I mean, everybody makes
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a mistake every once in a while, like cheez, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: so does kind of sound like we both think maybe
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Joosh Allen.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Josh Allen. And again, I'd love to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: see him in a Super Bowl. I think it'd be
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: super cool if he did what Kurt Warner did and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: he's the only one to ever do it. Oh, win
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the regular season MVP, win the Super Bowl, and win
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: That would be super cool.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And I can think of a very short list of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: people that deserve that more than Josh Allen.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: He's up there for sure, unless he's some like secret
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: evil person behind the scenes. Like I said, Earl, I've
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: never heard a bad word said about him. He's always
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He's had a lot of hype his
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: whole career, and then he came out in his first
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: one or two seasons it's like, oh man, this guy's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: gonna flame out. He's gonna bust out. And then I
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: think his first great game was against the Vikings in
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: like twenty eighteen or something like that. He little over
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: a Viking and it was one of those trap games
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the Vikings ended up losing. But anyways, yeah, Josh Allen,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I think he's he should beat your MVP, although if
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: it's Lamar Jackson, I mean I think he's very deserving. Yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: they're both. It'll come down to those two, and I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: think they both deserve it. And that's not even talking
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: about a two thousand yard rusher in Saquon Saquon Barkley.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: But he's not a quarterback and it's not twenty twelve,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: so a running back's not going to win it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about another former MVP. He's not gonna
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: win it this year, pretty confident in that. But there
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: have been some rumors we're going to move into the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: school patrol segment here where we hit up Twitter, okay
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and found a few tweets that I thought we could
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: talk about. So we'll flash those tweets up on the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: screen here and we'll just talk.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: About them a little bit.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So this first one that I found, I mean, it
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was posted by the Viking Age, pretty well known Viking
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Twitter account, and they just ask the question, on a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, how tired are you of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: hearing people say Aaron Rodgers is coming to the Vikings.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I was trying to find the tweet that said fulfill
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the prophecy, because you know, if you've been a Vikings
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: fan for any length of time, you know that Brett
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Farv left the Packers, went to the Jets, and then
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: ended up playing two seasons for the Vikings before he retired.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has kind of followed a similar path. And
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: there are people out there that I think, I guess,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: are banging the table for this prophecy, for this for
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this thing that's already happened to happen again. I don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: know how would you answer that question on a scale
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of one to ten, how tired are you of hearing
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: people Rogers is coming to the Vikings.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I think it wouldn't even be talked about if it
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't for that previous Farv as a packer, too far
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: of as a Jet, ultimately far as a Viking. If
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: not for that, we wouldn't even really have that as
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: a talking point. That seems like one of those Stephen A.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Smith ESPN talking points, like what would have happened once,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: so it's gonna happen again. If we're just looking at
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the players, I think, at this moment, well, how old
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? He's forty one? Forty one, okay, forty one
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: right now as of you know, this time, right before
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Farv signed with the Vikings, after his tenure with the Jets,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and Rogers right now, Who's Jets tenure isn't even technically over.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I think at that time in nine Farv was a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: better quarterback than Aaron Rodgers is. At this moment you
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: could argue about their careers, you know how it's gone
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and who the ultimate better one is. But as far
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: as like the moment before the talk like the maybe
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: signing with the Vikings far then was better than Rogers
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: is now. The Vikings quarterback situation is a little bit
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: different now than it was in you know, early two
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: thousand and nine. Vikings didn't have anybody you're talking about. Well,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: their QB one was going to be Tarvaris Jackson, I'm
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: pretty sure. Other than that, they were just coming off
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a year where it was like Brooks Bollinger and you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: like which I think Brooks Bollinger is actually like a
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: genuinely good dude, but like the Vikings had no prospects
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: or just it was a forgettable season. Yeah, and they
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: just it was a dark, empty hole at quarterback. Sorry
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: if you love Tarvaris Jackson recipes. Right now, the Vikings,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I mean they have options. Sam Donald is still an
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: option to resign, and I think at this moment, twenty
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: twenty four Sam Donald is better than twenty twenty four
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. I don't think that's too much of a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: hot take. Yeah, Donald, and I just kind of crapped
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: on him about his final two games of the season,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and that's why I'm okay with moving on. Even with
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: those final two games of the season, I would take
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnald over Aaron Rodgers right now, not over their careers.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, Aaron Rodgers is one of the best of
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: all time, but right now, no, it's Donald So you're
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: at a ten, like I'm super annoyed and I want
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: people to stop talking about I'm not annoyed about it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I just I think everything I just said was my
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: way of saying I don't think it's even that realistic.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It just seems like a caricature argument or talking point, like, well,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: it could happen and repeat history and fulfill the prophecy.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It'd be funny, I'd be I'd be here for it,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I'd watch it, But like I wouldn't be sitting here
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: thinking like, oh crap, the Vikings are for real now
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: They're they're gonna do it. And I went through all that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't even mention JJ McCarthy's name. I'm fully on
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: board with let's go with JJ McCarthy. I think at
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: this moment, potential QB two for the Vikings next year,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones might be a more comfortable, rosterable quarterback than
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: at this moment Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers seems over it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: He seems done he might just retire. I'd be surprised
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: if he didn't.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And I don't see him gelling well with this team
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: at all, because you basically have a GM and a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: head coach wearing a football helmet. And I think that's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: why Robert Solid didn't last long in New York. And
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's why Mike McCarthy got chased out of
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Green Bay. And I'm shocked that he had even a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: little bit of success with Matt Lafleur. I think he
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: ran all over at Matt Lafleur, and then when he left,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: everything kind of opened up for Lafleur and he's like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: oh wow, I actually have control over this team.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: This is new right. So I don't know that he
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: is the right fit. I'm annoyed.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this anymore because the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Vikings have a lot of options at quarterback. And even
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: if JJ McCarthy isn't an option next year because he's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: rehabbing or they want a red shirt or whatever, yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I think you still have a whole list of other
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: guys Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, and you've got a few
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: other options out in the league. And then you still
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: have Nick mullens. He's going to be a free agent,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: but is he Okay, he's set to be a free agent.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: You could bring him back. And I'm pretty sure they
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: signed Brett Rippen back. Well, I know Rippin was on
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the practice squad to be to end the season. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: haven't seen did he sign up. I think he's on
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a futures contract for next year. According to over thecap
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: dot com.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I believe it, and that's fine. I mean, yeah, okay,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: that's my source.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: But anyways, yeah, I'm I may be a little bit
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: more passionate about this than you are, Like, shut up,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about Aaron Rodgers coming to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the Vikings anymore.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: That's stupid.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: That guy might be done playing football, and I'd be
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: more than okay with that.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Here's there's two differences, which I think explain our different
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: level of annoyance about this. I think we both can agree,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: but I definitely know it's not a realistic option. Aaron
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Rodgers will not I would bet one thousand dollars right
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: now that Aaron Rodgers is not going to be a
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Viking quarterback in twenty twenty five.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to make that bet right now, and if
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that happens, that thousand dollars is coming to the school.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I definitely think I don't know. I don't
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: want to sound like I'm crapping on you. I think
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty cemented and I feel like you probably are too.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is not going to be a Vikings quarterback.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: It's not even an option. There's so many better options
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: and number two. And again, I don't want to sound
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: like I'm crapping on you because this will apply to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that probably to us and watch us.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I don't watch a lot of ESPN, Like I'm not
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: one that. Like just when I flip the TV on,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: it's like random YouTube videos about like Blackstone grilled griddle
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: cooking recipes. You know, it's not listening to Stephen A.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Smith or around the Horn talking about like, oh, somebody
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: tweeted Aaron Rodgers could be a Viking, which and not
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: saying you shouldn't be entertained by stuff like that, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: like when you flip the TV on and it's just you,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you're probably just watching ESPN and whatever they're talking about, right,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that is something they talk about, so it's like you
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: hear it more than I do, so you're probably more
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: annoyed about it than I am. So that's fair either way, don't.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I don't even think it's like that is as worth
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: talking about to me as Brett Favre coming out of
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: retirement and signing back with the Bikings. Like I think
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: both of those options have the same possibility of happening.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Well, let's switch gears again. I got really passionate about that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you off your pedestal.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But another ESPN thing that came out towards the end
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of the season, Jay Glazer hit the news with, Oh,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, he's a sneaky trade candidate, that there are
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a bunch of teams out there that are gonna want
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to trade for a head coach, and he's one of them,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and he's not happy in Minnesota. And he made I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: don't even know if that was a claim game, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: people have since made claims like that and have kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: of bought into this conspiracy that Kevin O'Connell could be
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: traded away from the Vikings. I don't believe that for
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: one second. I don't think KOC has entertained any of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: those things for even a moment. Well, he wouldn't even
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: be the first one to entertain that. No, I don't think.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Wolfs, I don't think Quasia Dolfha Menza.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of those people above KOC have
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: even contemplated that. So with that, I think Kevin O'Connell
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: coming back to the Vikings is a lock. I don't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: think there's a scenario where Kevin O'Connell isn't the head
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: coach of the Vikings next year. And I'll put one
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars on that right here, right now. But I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: found another tweet. This is from Power Trip Bets. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: love Power Trip Bets.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Did you know? This is the first time I saw
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I listened to the Power Trip. Basically they connected well,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't think, like in a actual professional standpoint,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Power Trip Bets is connected. Sure, but they've been their
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: friends with the Power Trip show. The guy that runs
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that account, he's been on the show many times over
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the years. He essentially like keeps track because the guy's
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: on the Power Trip. They like make bets with each other, like, oh, hey,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the National Championship game tonight, who you got? Okay? One
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks on that like the Power Trip Bets, he
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: listens every day and he keeps tags and like tweets
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: out like oh yeah, meat sauce bet, ben Leeber one
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars, this, this, and this. He like keeps tracks
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: to the point that on the Power Trip I'm getting
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: off on another tangent here the Power Trips feel like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, do I have a bet with you? Hey,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: pow Trip Bets tweet at us if we have a bet,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and within minutes you'll hear on the show like, oh yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Partrait Bets tweeted at us he said, we do have
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: a bet on that, like you know, like he's yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: he's a good follow on Twitter at Power Trip Bets.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is. But it is Keick going
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: at Power Trip Bets. I found this.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Didn't know any of that context at all, but that
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: is helpful, and I figured it was at least somewhat
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: connected to the Power Trip radio show. So put out
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: this top ten highest paid NFL coaches chart, and I'll
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: just quickly kind of recap for those that are listening.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: It's current.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: This is current, yeah, And if you're watching, I'll throw
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the tweet up here on the screen so you can
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: see it. But if you're listening, I'll just quickly go
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: down the list of names and their average annual salary.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So at the top of the list you got Andy
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Reid twenty million, sure, Sean Payton eighteen million, OK, Mike
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Tomlin at number three sixteen tied with Jim Harbaugh in
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: third place again at sixteen million, Sean McVay fifteen million,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan fourteen million, John Harbaugh twelve million, Dan Campbell eleven,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Sean McDermott eleven, and Mike McDonald I think he was
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: a first year head coach with the Seahawks. Ye. Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: nine million dollars.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So the question was asked by power Trip Bets, if
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you are the Wolfs, what would you pay koc per year?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Given this top ten list of coaches. Another thing that
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: you're not seeing if you're not watching, is there's a
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: column for a number of titles that these coaches have won.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid has three, a handful of them have one,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and a handful of zero, and then it also has
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: their coaching ten year listed. So like, Andy Reid's been
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: coaching for twenty six years, but Mike McDonald this was
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: his first year as a head coach, so you got
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to consider everything. Koc is now completed three years of coaching.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: He would be second to asked in terms of tenure
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: on this list, but he's won a lot of games
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: in his three years, and he's faced a lot of
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: adversity and coached through that last season, specifically losing Justin
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Jefferson for a while, losing Kirk Cousins for good. Like
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: he's coached really well, got himself into the playoffs two
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: years ago. Obviously last year was kind of just what
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: it was with injury got them into the playoffs again
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: If you're the Wolfs, what are you paying Koc? Yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's a really good question, and I'll preface
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: it by say saying I'm kind of surprised they haven't
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: already announced like a contract extension. That Jay Glazer comment about,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: oh he could be traded, he's disgruntled or whatever he said.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I initially was like, that's bullcrap. But then I saw
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: a tweet from maybe even like Ben Lieber, like I
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: wonder if that's coming from Koc's side, like his people
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Lincoln something or talking to somebody in the and it's like, Oh,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: if that if that's true, which I still kind of
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: think that's not true, But if it is, that would
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: say a lot like KOC and the few times he's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: talked about it in the media, you know, in pre conferences,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: he's been over the moon. I love the Wilfs, I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: love being the Vikings coach. I only ever want to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: be here and lead these men here. And he said
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the right things. But yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And it's one of those like there may be listeners,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: you know, watching listening to us this episode right now
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: thinking like why are they talking about this? They announced it,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you know, yesterday, you know, like it could happen that soon.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: If you're looking at it purely as like where does
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: he stack up against those list of coaches and their salaries?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Where should he be? It feels like he should be
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: lower than Mike Tomlin right now, but definitely higher than
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. Like McDonald, I saw another tweet today and
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't save it or retweeted or anything, and it
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: may have been just pure speculation, but Lion's offensive coordinator
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson seems like he's gonna get hired by the
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Bears Tom Perelsero and you know, everybody else, Schefter, everybody
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: else tweeted that out, and I saw a tweet saying
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: sounds like it could be anywhere from like eleven to
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: thirteen for Ben Johnson if that's true, which it could
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: have been just a BS like fan person saying like, oh,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I look, that's what you should get. But if that
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: were true, KOC should be at like fifteen, then you know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: if that's the case either way, I think he should
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: be in the upper echelon of average annual salaries for coaches.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: And I recognize he doesn't have a title, and there's
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: a handful of coaches that have a title. He doesn't
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: have a playoff win. There's a handful of coaches that
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: have a playoff win. So I get that that's a
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: factor too, But you're looking at the future, he feels
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: like a guy that should get I don't know, thirteen
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to sixty or something crazy like that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would put him up there with the likes
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of Tomlin, Harba, McVeigh, Shanahan. And that's Jim Harbaugh by
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the way. Oh yeah, yeah, right, so Jim and John
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: are both on this list. Jim apparently makes four million
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: dollars more than his brother.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: He's also got a Super Bowl win. He'd a couple,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: right yea, or at least one he's got one, yep.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think he's definitely like up
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: there with Shanahan for sure. Shanahan makes fourteen right now
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: average Shanahan doesn't have a title, but he's got five
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: more years coaching and a bunch of championship game experiences,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: a couple Super Bowl appearances. Yeah, so I think he's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: up there, And I honestly, I think if Kaos stays
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the path, if he continues to work with Quacy, brings
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: in good guys, and he develops the guys that are
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: brought in, especially in the draft, but also through free agency,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: which we saw was Sam Donald. I mean Sam Donald
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: was kind of the Cinderella story this year, Like he
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: went from zero to hero like that, and it was
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I think largely because of Kevin O'Connell.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: We could maybe attribute some of that to Josh McCown
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: as well, but man, and I think, sorry to cut
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: you off, but I feel like a part of Sam
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Donald's overall development, you can't understate his year with the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers either, that had to have been a
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: good foundation too, but and then it just got extended
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: with his year with the Vikings so far.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: So speaking of that, there was another trade rumor floated
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: out there that I don't know that I buy into
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: it all, but a proposed trade that the Vikings would
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: make with the Niners to get Brock Purdy, which I
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: also think is kind of ridiculous. And I think as
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Vikings fans who sit here weekly, drink beer and talk
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: about the Vikings and follow the Vikings obnoxiously, I think
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: we're all just ready to see JJ McCarthy.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just want to see number nine in purple.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: We want to see what he can do. If he's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: a bust, he's a bust, but I don't think he is.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: He proved that he can play really well. He can
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: prove that he can play in big games on big stages.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: He won a national championship last year, and unlike another
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: quarterback that we know this year, didn't just crumble in
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: the limelight, you know. So I don't know.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I think I can speak for a lot of Vikings
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: fans out there, Probably most Vikings fans like, let's just
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: cut the crap move on from Sam Darnold. Let's stop
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Rodgers or Brock Purdy or anybody else
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: coming to the Vikings. Daniel Jones whatever, he can be
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the backup, or he can go somewhere else too, that's fine.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: We want to see number nine in purple. We want
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to see him gain a little bit of weight, because
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: it looks like he lost some pounds.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: He's getting off season for that in recovery.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: We want to see him come out and just impress
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the socks out of us.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to say. My official stance
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: as of this moment, which I just admitted has changed
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: in the last few weeks. Let Sam Darnold go. Thanks
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Sam for the magical year. It was awesome. Go get
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: your payday. Let's roll with JJ McCarthy and then have
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: a solid option at QB two. My first thought is
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones because he's already in the building. If it's
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: not him, then there's somebody else. There's other solid options
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: for QB two, But either way, JJ McCarthy, that's step one.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: That's my official stance.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and we keep coming back to that
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: because I think that's the biggest question this franchise faces.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: This offseason, what do you do at quarterback? And yeah,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the Koc contract will come. I think Quacy, I think
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that's another contract extension that probably needs to be signed
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, if the Wolfs think that he's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: done a good enough job to earn that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Two questions for you on that. I think we may
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: have slightly differing opinions, but nothing crazy. Do you think
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Question one? Do you think Koc and Quac at this
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: point are package deals?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're a package deal, but I think
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: they work really well together.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, I agree. I officially answer I would answer the
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: exact same way. It seems like they're really good together.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: But I don't think you have to sign the other
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: if you sign one and vice versa. Correct Question two?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: At this moment, would you sounds like we'd both be
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: comfortable the Vikings gave Koc like a ten year contract,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: something like, just go, he's the guy, we're good like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: give him a ten year contract, give him a five,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you know, a solid not just a one or two. Like.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty confident in saying we'd both be
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: totally good with them locking in with Koc yep, agreed.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Would you want that same deal for Quasy or would
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: you be okay with like I we'll see another year
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to what you can do or even what else is
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: out there, Like what are your thoughts on that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I think if you sign both of them to the
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: same length of a deal, then you communicate to the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: general public, to a fan like us, that they are
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a packaged deal. I think you evaluate them separately, Yeah,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you have to. I think you evaluate Koc for the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: product on the field, because that's what he's responsible for.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I think you evaluate Quacy for the team that he
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: has assembled and how he's navigated all the ups and
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: downs of a season. And I think, I mean, I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: have a lot of evidence that I could provide for
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Quacy as well.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I think we've talked a lot about.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Koc already, Like, man, he's done a really good job
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: three seasons, navigated a lot of stuff. But like you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: got to think about Quacy in those moments too. Bringing
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: in Josh Dobbs that was a heck of a move
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: for a GM to make at that point in the season,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and it didn't turn out great, But it also wasn't
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a crash and burn kind of situation For a minute,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: though I was starting to think like a whole crab.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Now they're gonna have to pay Josh Dabbs like forty
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Yeah, and he was essentially free
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: to get like it was a sixth round pick or
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: something like that. But yeah, anyways, Cam Robinson though, was
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: another one, like Christian Darisaw goes down and Quaycy goes
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: out and finds a suitable replacement for him. One that
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I saw today. Some people are thinking like what if
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: he sticks around and what if he maybe probably isn't
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: a tackle once Darisaw is healthy, but maybe he's a guard.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's able to switch to that position.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he solidifies that interior side of things that
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the Vikings really struggled with.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Ye, So I don't know.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things that we could
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: point to like that that's like, yeah, Quaycy man, he
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: knows what he's doing and he can wheel and deal
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: with the best of them in the GM sphere. Like
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I just I always come back to Moneyball when I
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: think about that, because that's a movie about a GM
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: in pro sports, and I just picture you know, Quacy
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: on the phone all the time, like hey, yeah, we'll
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: consider that let me talk and he hangs up the phone,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: talk to KOC, talk to the owners. Yeah, we can
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: do that. Let's do it, you know kind of thing.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what he's like, but yeah, I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: think they both deserve an extension. I don't know that
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you extend both of them to the same length of contract.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I think if one has a shorter leash than the other,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I think maybe it's Quasy. I would agree, just because
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the draft hasn't been great. That's and he still has
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: time to redeem that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Although this year's draft class doesn't look amazing at all,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: especially for positions that Vikings need, and the fact that we.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Don't have a lot of picks. Yeah, they only have
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: as of this moment, the Vikings only officially have three picks,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: a first and two fives. Yeah, and I think they're
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: expecting to get two comp picks. Yeah, maybe a third
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and maybe another third, but maybe something later. And I
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: would also expect Quacy to get back in at some point.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe we kind of thought that last year too, with
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: their like third day or second day picks, and I
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: think it was the second of the three days of
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: the draft, they either made one pick or none at all.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I think they traded oh it was, they traded up
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: for that second first rounder to get Dallas Turner. And
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: there's that video of Quacy in the draft room like
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: don't worry, guys, like to all the scouts and whoever
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: else in the room, like we'll get back in, We'll
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: get back in. And they went the whole second day
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: without making a pick at all, which I mean, it
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: is what it is. It's not like they lost the
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl because they didn't make a pick that day.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think what I think you
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: were about to allude to is that Quacy, if he
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: has a flaw, it's the draft and that's a huge
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: thing for a GM and either you know, you go
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: another couple of years and it's similar and you need
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: to get rid of him, or you need to get
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: like a specific assistant GM whose job is the draft
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: or something like that. You'll get him some help, I think.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And you can't.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: You can't judge Quacy on this coming draft, the twenty
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: twenty five draft alone, because you're going to have so
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: many picks. And I think there are gonna be a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: lot of fringe vikings fans out there who are gonna.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Be like, this was a terrible draft, get rid of him.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: He's terrible.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: He put us in this position in the first place.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he did put us in that position. But
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you got to look back at all of the things
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that he did to get good players on that roster,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: whether or not they were draft picks or not. He
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: may have traded away some draft picks. I don't even
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: remember what all of the conditions of trades were. I'm
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: not good at tracking all that, but I feel like,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you know, some of those have actually been pretty advantageous
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings. So you can't throw out one draft
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: because you only have three picks.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I will play I agree with you told overall on
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that you can't judge him by one draft, but I'll
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: play Devil's ad pick hit a little bit and say
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: that's one of what will have been four drafts, I believe,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and there's not a lot. I mean, you could out
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: of so far three drafts, and I hope I'm not
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: missing a big name, But I mean, who have they
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: really gotten. I think Jordan Addison he's really good. He's
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: pretty good, But people immediately say, well, KOs you made
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: him draft that. I don't know the ins and outs
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: of that Daris saw. No Daris saw was Spielman jo.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I mean Lewis scene is a major negative. But I
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: think Coacy will say, like, yeah, that was a horrible situation.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Who else? Who else have they? Jj McCarthy maybe, but
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: we've seen a few plays of a preseason game from him.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think cam Bynam was his Dallas Turner. Dallas Turner,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: but that's a maybe too. But that's only a maybe
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: because there's two Pro bowlers in front of him at
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: his position, and Brian Flores was his defensive coordinator. Brian
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Flores doesn't play a lot of rookies. He puts the
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: experienced guys in. That's a known thing about Brian Flores.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: There's a couple other names that come to mind. They're
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: not like great names, but ed Ingram is still on
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the roster. He's not great, but was he I'm pretty.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Sure he was drafted the same year as Addis and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I want to say, was he okay? And there's another
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: name that I can't put my finger on at the moment,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: but there's a few. There's a few others that Quasi
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: has drafted I think that are still on the roster.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: That are still at least contributing.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: They may not be starters, they may not be Pro bowlers,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: but they're editing them. Was in his first draft. Yeah,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: two picks after Lewis Scene, Okay, Brian Asmois, who's a
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: special teamer at best. Caleb Evans who flashed early but
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: ultimately got cut this year. Ty Chandler again seemed like
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: he had a lot of potential but still on the roster.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Still a kick turner, may becon this year. Jalen Naylor
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: who's been up and down. Jordan Addison, Mackay Blackman, who
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not totally fair because he missed the
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: whole season this year and what seemed like he was
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: on the up and up. JJ McCarthy, Dallas Turner, Kerrie Jackson.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: That's also not fair because he and piece Will Rekord.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: That was a good pick. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: about it. Those are the highlights of his draft. Jaren Hall,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: who got cut and yeah, that's a that's about it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: So all that to say, that's the obvious weakness for
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Quac right now.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I think I think if he really wants to stay
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: with the Vikings long term, not only does he have
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: to draft well with the limited picks that he's got
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: this year, He's got a draft well hopefully with a
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: full suite of picks the following year. Well that's the thing.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: His both koc and Quaycy's contract as of right now,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: they expire at the end of the league one year
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: from now or a year and two months from now.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I thought they were done at the end of this season. No, No,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: they've still got one moment. But unless I'm totally misremembering something,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident they both have all of twenty five.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five NFL season is the last year
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: of their contracts. I could see them. And again, I'm
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: just a dude from Iowa drinking beer in a little
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Tyke's chair from going numb. Dude, my tailbone is feeling it.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I think they extend Koc before they extend Quac. And
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: like I said, Quaycy's got a shorter leash, and I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: still think I think he's done enough in free agency,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: especially in those pinch moments where it's like, Okay, he's confident,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing, and and maybe we find
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: somebody to help him with the draft. Maybe there's an
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: assistant GM or someone out there that can do that.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: But I don't think you just cut him after this
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: next year if he doesn't draft well, I don't think
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: he's just you know, looking for new jobs that quickly.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So the timing might be a little unfortunate for him,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and maybe he is a victim of just kind of
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: digging himself that hole, making the bed that he's got
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: to sleep in. But we'll see, it'll be interesting really
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: quick because we don't want to get too long rended here.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: But Brian Flores, what do you think about his chances
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: of returning to the Vikings?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: So this is another talking point that maybe even more
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: so that could be outdated sooner than not. It seems
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: like his best chance for a head coaching job, and
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: this is just from what I'm reading on Twitter, which
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: who cares about that, But it seems like Brian Flores's
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: best chance for a head coaching job with the Jets.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: And it also seems like the Jets like Glenn from Detroit,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, I feel like if if Flores
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't get the Jets job, then he's probably back with
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. It also seems like his current preference is like, yeah,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Vikings are pretty good right now, Like I'd be okay
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: with staying with the Vikings. So ultimately, I don't know
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: how it'll work. I hope we get at least one
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: more season of Flores because I also know, like we
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: were just talking about player acquisition and stuff, like coordinators,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: they have their their game plan and a little bit
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: less so less important for offense because Koc if he's here,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: it's his game plan. But defense, that's all Flores. He
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: is the head coach of the defense. And I think
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: we've heard specifically, like Blake Cashman it's a Viking because
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: of Flores, Like he heard about it was like, let's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: get that guy. I think Dallas Turner was a big
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Flores pick. Like, so if Flores were to go, then
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: you've invested in players that maybe don't match up perfectly
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: with whoever comes in next, which is always you know,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: for every team, at every side of the ball, that's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: always something to worry about. So if only for that,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I hope Flores stays. Plus he's proven to be pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I think too.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of the allegations that have come out, I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: know a lot of former Dolphins players have come out
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: and spoken about what he was like as a head coach. Yeah,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I think Kevin O'Connell balances out those negative aspects of
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: him and maybe even kind of like pulls him aside sometimes,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like him Inn, that's not the culture we're gonna create here. Like,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: if you're ever the head coach, someday, sure go do that,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: but that's not what we're gonna do here. And I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: think kind of like the cream and this coffee and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: cream Porter koc kind of me out pretty intense Brian Flores. Sure,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes I could be wrong on all that. I'm just speculating, but.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: People also are capable of growing and learning and from
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: their mistakes and their successes. For sure, I think it
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: was Fitzpatrick what's his first name, Ryan, Ryan Fitzpatrick, who
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: had some pretty candid but at least it sounded honest
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: thoughts on Flores because he was a Dolphin when Flores
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: was the head coach, and it's like, yeah, he kind
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: of burned a lot of bridges. He kind of seemed
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: like he was trying to be a Belichick guy, which
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: if that's all you know, that's all you're gonna do.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: But maybe if handful of years are removed you learn
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and you grow and you figure out exactly how you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: want to be a head coach and that's all. If
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: all of that is true or whatever, I think he
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: will be a head coach in the league. Again. I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: hope it's not for at least another year, but was
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I kind of went back to old school episodes and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I started listening to the first episode one and both
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: of us were like, yeah, I kind of hope he's
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: a one and done Vikings coach because that means he
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: did really good and the Vikings defense was amazing. But
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Flores has been the only defensive coordinator in the whole
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: life of the skull Hoop, which we're pushing two years now.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Okay with that, and I'm okay if he continues to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: be the defensive coordinator. Yeah, I like the guy a lot. Obviously,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: this defense was kind of the heart and soul of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the team this year and even going back to last year,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: despite the struggles. I mean, you can't forget the three
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: nothing victory over the Raiders last season, Like that was
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the defense. The offense obviously could do nothing and the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: defense shut out the Raiders, So like, yeah, you gotta
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: like a guy like Brian Flores, I think his head
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: coaching opportunities are quickly drying up right now this cycle,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: which I think makes it pretty likely that he comes
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: back to the Vikings, and I'm for it. I'm there
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: for it. I think, honestly, the more that can stay
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the same from this season, the better things are next season.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I think I even extend that all the way out
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: to Harrison Smith as old as he's getting here. Like, man,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: if you're listening out there, and you're probably not, but
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: we would love to see you play another season, even
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: if you're on a limited snap count and you know
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: you're just you're in on some key plays and that's it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: We get it.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You're about done. But man, I love watching twenty two
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: play football. He's fun to watch.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I think he's probably done, but I hope he's not.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I hope he comes back.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Let's finish this out really quick, because we were continuing
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: to talk about just what's next. You know, the season's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: over for the Vikings. We're obviously not playing for a
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl handful of Pro Bowlers. That'll be fun, yeah,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. But what one position grew?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think Quacy and KOs you really need to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: target in the in the draft and in free agency.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I have a one A and a one B.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: But if it has to be one interior offensive line,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: they Bradberry. I'm a fan of him, but ultimately and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: then at the end of the day, I might be
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: a bigger mass individual. I'm definitely shorter, but I might
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: be a bigger mass individual than brad Berry. I'm not
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: saying I would be a better starting center than him.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: That would be ridiculous. I can't run a mile without
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: taking a break. But but I think the Vikings interior
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: offensive line, I'm kind of done messing around with Dalton Reisner.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Like he's super good dude and he's stepped in and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: played okay, but like it's not it's not getting the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: job done. I think Blake Brandell, I think you said
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: maybe a week or so ago, like he's the one
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: of the three on the interior that maybe you fully
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: bring back and you're you're okay with because he's he
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: played okay. But even then, blow up that interier offensive
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: line and spend some money, get some If Quasy's proven
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: one thing about himself, it's that he can sign some
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: really good free agents, go get those guys, two or
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: three new interior offensive linemen. That's what I'm looking most
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: forward to this this offseason.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that for even a second,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: but I would maybe explore either in the draft or
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: free agency. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me, as long
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: as you don't overpay and as long as you get
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: somebody young. I think the Vikings need a running back.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: In the three seasons that KOs has been the coach,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I think I saw something out there that said the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Vikings have been in the bottom tier of the league
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: in running the football, and part of that is his
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: coaching style.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: He's a former quarterback. He likes to throw the ball.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: We get that, and we saw it with Kirk Cousins.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, Kirk was throwing the ball, you know, thirty
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: five forty forty five times a game, almost every game.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: The dude had to have ice on his shoulder, probably
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: for the whole next day, Like every Monday. He probably
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: just spent with ice on his shoulder because he's thrown
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: so much. Well, he brought in his own like massage
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: therapist or whatever it was we saw in the Quarterbacks Series.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Quarterback documentary, But I think that's an area that CHAOSI
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: can grow in, is finding ways to incorporate the run,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: because we're seeing that with these really successful teams that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: are still.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Left in the playoffs.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: You've got Saquan who's killing it in the league's leading
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: rusher with Philly. You've also got Derrick Henry who played
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: really well. They're out of the playoffs now, but the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: other teams that are left either have really good mobile
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Jayden Daniels who led his team in rushing.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Josh Allen maybe led the Bills and
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: rushing James Cook though, but they do have James. Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: So the point is you have to find balance on offense,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and you can't be this pass heavy offense that the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Vikings really have been for all three years of Kos's tenure.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Yep. So I think you got to find that running back.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: And there are probably a lot of people out there
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: that would side with you because you can't run the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: ball or pass the ball effectively if you don't have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: the protection up front. And I definitely agree with that.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: But if you get what you want, then I want
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: to get what I want. And if we both get
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: what we want, then Hey, man, the Vikings could be
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: a force to be reckoned with next season.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. Running back, they need an upgrade.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: They've since Dalvin Cook's decline, they haven't had a decent
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: running back. Aaron Jones impressed me more than I thought
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: he would and definitely great locker room guy, and he
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: was a thousand yard rusher, Like you can't take one
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: of the better seasons of his career this season at
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: the Vikings, which was fun to watch, But imagine how
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: much better his season would have been if the Vikings
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: had just a stone cold mauler one at the guard position,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: just a guy that like people run away from. Like
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: just imagine if Sam Darnold some of the plays he
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: took the snap, looked up and immediately had to throw
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: the ball away. Like, Yeah, that interior offensive line, we
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: would forget about it because we'd never think about it
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: because they're so good. If they were amazing and did
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  Speaker 2: their jobs at an elite level rather than just a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: decent level, which is what they are right now, it
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  Speaker 2: would solve a lot of problems.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got really good tackles on the outside, especially
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: when daris O comes back and he's healthy. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're able to keep Brian on heal and I think
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  Speaker 1: he's on that list of free agents, is he not.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's got at least one more year on steel
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  Speaker 2: and he might actually be able to because I think
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  Speaker 2: he's one of those you can restructure very easily, save
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: a bunch of money on the cap, and it would
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: spread it out in the future. But I think they
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: could save like fifteen or more million dollars just by
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: an easy restructure. He wouldn't be losing any money, it
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  Speaker 2: would just be spreading it out differently.
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  Speaker 1: He's a guy the Vikings definitely need to bring back
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  Speaker 1: because he solidifies that right side, and then I think
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: you figure out a patchwork on the left side until
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  Speaker 1: Darisaw gets back healthy, which maybe that is Cam Robinson again,
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe it is Cam Robinson. He seems a
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  Speaker 1: little bit hefty in the price tag. Yeah for me
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  Speaker 1: to be just a patchwork guy, especially considering the really
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: big contract that they signed Darrisaw too. I don't know
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: if you want all of that money on the books
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  Speaker 1: for the season next year, but we'll see to.
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  Speaker 2: Your point, if Cam Robinson has some position flexibility once
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  Speaker 2: Darrisaw's back, Yeah, I think to just get rid of
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  Speaker 2: Cam Robinson if he can move inside of the guard.
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  Speaker 2: He's a little bit smaller than Darisa. Darris is a
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  Speaker 2: little taller, I think, And I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 2: able to do that. I know it's not like as
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: easy as saying like, okay, just played that position over
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: tackle like garden tackle are very different positions too, So
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  Speaker 2: well we did say I think it was last week
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  Speaker 2: on episode seventy five. Cam Robinson is probably the most
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: likely to leave, probably because he'll probably he'll be the
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: first to get paid more, maybe the second after Donald,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: to get paid more than the Vikings will want to pay.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if I could change it now, knowing
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: what we know now after the Rams game, I think
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's maybe most likely to leave at this point,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: especially he deserves a pay day, yeah, and especially knowing
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the options that the Vikings have at quarterback.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: It's not like the eight nine season where the Vikings
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: had this black hole of nothingness as you described it earlier,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: the quarterback position, and then all of a sudden bratt
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: far have happened upon them and they're like, all right,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: let's do this. You're right better get ready to pull
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: out your old Kirk Cousins jerseys and rip that off
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: and put Rogers on the back. So no thanks, I'll pass,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: all right, man, What did you ultimately think of this
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: No Coast Coffee and Cream Porter.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: This is a really good beer. I like it a lot.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: It's like I said earlier, it's very balanced. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like coffee. I like hot, black, no cream coffee
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. That's how I wake up pretty much
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  Speaker 1: every day. So when it comes to that coffee, I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: want hot, I want black, I want a rich, bold flavor.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want watery, fielders whatever. But when it comes
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: to beer, I want something maybe a little more balanced.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: If I'm going to drink a coffee beer, I want
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: it to have maybe a little bit of that cream
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: flavor to it.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: And this hits the spot. This is definitely maybe a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: top tier coffee beer that I've had. Yeah, this is
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: one of the better ones I've had. This Tip the Cow,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: the Mint, Tip the Cow, those are probably at this
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: moment some of my favorite coffee beers. And it's kind
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: of crazy you I've only had two, but yeah, this
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: is this is really good. I agree with everything you
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: just said. Good stuff for sure, So thanks no coast
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: for a really great beer, and I'll probably get this
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  Speaker 2: one again. I saw it on the shelf a few
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: weeks ago actually, and I was like, I think I'm
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: going to try that, and we should try it on
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: the podcast. That is what my thought was. And then
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: today when I was at the store, I was like,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to do it, and here
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: we are, and I don't know if I've seen this
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: on the show, so it must be a somewhat new
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: at least new in our area.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's new ish. Yeah, yeah, pretty good
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: for sure. Well, my tailbone is screaming at this point.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to need to stand up and I'd like
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: to get back to the desks next week. That would
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: be great. Let's do it a little more comfortable up there.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: But this wasn't terrible, but definitely a punishment. Oh yeah,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: this was It wasn't the worst punishment, but it was
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: a punishment. It's not like we so we've had one
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: punishment on the wheel consume an entire jar of pickles,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: which for a lot of people it'd be like, oh,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I could never do that. We've kind of been looking
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: forward to that. I love pickles. We both loved it,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: and that's the juice and all.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they never never hit.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: That never happened. And then also getting the pie in
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: the face, which you were not looking.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Forward to at all. I didn't want that that all
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: up in my face and my beard. That would have
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: been awful. I could have dealt with that.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: But I was actually kind of excited about this too,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: just because I had this little child's set.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm surprised I haven't broken it yet. Yeah, if
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: it hasn't broken yet, it's been an hour or so.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: So well, if it were built today, that might be different,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: but this is nineteen nineties construction. If it were built today,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have like ever even felt like I was
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: sitting in the chair. It would have just been straight
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: to the ground. All right.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Well, probably time for us to wrap this up here.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Good talks though, Oh yeah, I think we'll have a
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: lot to talk about this offseason. I mean, as stuff
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: starts happening, as moves are made, and then eventually the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: draft in April.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a fun offseason.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it, and we'll probably try to
• 1:14:00
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• 1:14:02
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• 1:14:06
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• 1:14:21
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• 1:14:26
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• 1:14:29
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• 1:14:31
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• 1:14:33
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• 1:14:41
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• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: all right, just finished my beer but great episode, great
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