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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three sixty seven. Un Women.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I had to do that. It just they deserve it.
- 0:10Speaker 1: You can't. You can't be a woman if you're not
- 0:13Speaker 1: an adult. And and and if you freak out over
- 0:17Speaker 1: people having rights, you're not an adult. Like that's just
- 0:21Speaker 1: the way it is. So they're unwomen, not you and women.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with Nonsense Annihilator, Learned
- 0:29Speaker 1: Books and the Personification of Perceptivity Mike Stevenson. And in
- 0:33Speaker 1: the background we have the doge in charge, Brian Martinez
- 0:36Speaker 1: running the show. Tonight, we are going to continue looking
- 0:42Speaker 1: into this article. I thought we were at nearing the
- 0:45Speaker 1: end because you know, you have this blurb here, but sorry, guys,
- 0:49Speaker 1: they're they're women, just little little little verbos there. So
- 0:56Speaker 1: we'll we'll read what we gotta read to get through this.
- 1:00Speaker 1: And I guess this is probably going to be just
- 1:04Speaker 1: this article, because I mean, that's that's a show's worth
- 1:08Speaker 1: right there. But we still have the next article upcoming
- 1:15Speaker 1: also how to can't counter the Manisphere's toxic influence. Uh
- 1:21Speaker 1: so we're we're really going to get into it. Last week,
- 1:25Speaker 1: the the uh U N women, the un women woman
- 1:29Speaker 1: explaining to us about the various parts of our movements
- 1:35Speaker 1: the manisphere, and of course everything they said was wrong
- 1:41Speaker 1: and stupid, but there's more, there's more wrong for us
- 1:46Speaker 1: to look at, and so this week we are going
- 1:49Speaker 1: to get into that. But before we do that, gotta
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- 2:55Speaker 1: And before we get we get into the material, to
- 3:00Speaker 1: remind everybody that this upcoming Saturday. So just a couple
- 3:05Speaker 1: of days from now, we are having the Mixed Up
- 3:08Speaker 1: meet up. The Mixed Up Meetup will be at Round
- 3:12Speaker 1: One in the Fairfield ball on Beaver Creek, Beaver Creek, Ohio.
- 3:18Speaker 1: It will start at four o'clock. I'll be there at
- 3:21Speaker 1: four o'clock and and I know Brian's gonna be there.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I don't know Mike and Lauren. We never got funding
- 3:29Speaker 1: straightened out for you guys to come, did we No?
- 3:32Speaker 2: And you know at this point it's just a little
- 3:35Speaker 2: too late. Any any kind of tickets would be way
- 3:37Speaker 2: too expensive.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's partly my fault, like I ended
- 3:42Speaker 1: up unable to participate in any kind of fundraising because
- 3:46Speaker 1: I overdid the overtime again. Like I literally haven't had
- 3:51Speaker 1: a dight off since last month. I think, wow, well
- 3:58Speaker 1: I do that. Sometimes I have no not amgen Pottle,
- 4:01Speaker 1: I promise you PM. I know. I'm usually a night
- 4:04Speaker 1: night bird, but not not this time. This will be
- 4:08Speaker 1: I I can stay up till the cows come home.
- 4:12Speaker 1: But there aren't so many cows in the urban part
- 4:17Speaker 1: of Dayton usually there's although there are sheep. I drive
- 4:20Speaker 1: past the sheep farm on my way to work in
- 4:22Speaker 1: the city in the city of Beaver Creek. I drive
- 4:26Speaker 1: past the sheep farm in the City of Beaver Creek
- 4:28Speaker 1: because I drive through Beaver Creek on my way to
- 4:30Speaker 1: work sometimes. But anyway, yeah, we will be having this
- 4:36Speaker 1: meet up. It starts four pm. The venue closes at
- 4:39Speaker 1: two am, so that's that's plenty of time and that
- 4:46Speaker 1: that's essentially the information. I will repost the blog post
- 4:52Speaker 1: on the HBB blog to UH to put that information
- 4:58Speaker 1: out there as well. And for anybody that's coming that
- 5:01Speaker 1: hasn't booked. There our hotels all over the area because
- 5:04Speaker 1: this we're not too far off from the Nutter Center.
- 5:07Speaker 1: No tickets are required. You can just it's it's just
- 5:09Speaker 1: a regular business. You can just walk in. You'll have
- 5:12Speaker 1: to confind us, but definitely you can walk in and
- 5:18Speaker 1: walk around till you find us and we will be there.
- 5:23Speaker 1: You'll have to you'll have to look at some of
- 5:27Speaker 1: our more recent live streams that I've been on if
- 5:31Speaker 1: you want to recognize me, because the last four years
- 5:34Speaker 1: have been a little rough, so I don't look exactly
- 5:37Speaker 1: the same as I did when when we were at
- 5:40Speaker 1: ICMI nineteen, So a little more gray and quite a
- 5:46Speaker 1: bit heavier. So there you go. But yeah, if you
- 5:52Speaker 1: you want to look around for hotels and stuff, we're
- 5:55Speaker 1: close to this is going to be close enough to
- 5:59Speaker 1: write State University and the Nutter Center, which is named
- 6:04Speaker 1: after a family name. It's not a place where crazy
- 6:08Speaker 1: people go for no, it's that's an actual last name.
- 6:15Speaker 1: But we're close enough to that that there are a
- 6:17Speaker 1: ton of hotels and and they range from the lower
- 6:22Speaker 1: priced end up to the hoity toity you pay through
- 6:25Speaker 1: the nose to stay a night here. There are some
- 6:27Speaker 1: that accept pets, there are some that don't. You know,
- 6:32Speaker 1: like there's there's a little bit of everything. So hope
- 6:36Speaker 1: to see you all there, and uh, that's that. With
- 6:40Speaker 1: regard to that meet up, I know we also have
- 6:42Speaker 1: an upcoming meet up in September in Calgary, and that
- 6:47Speaker 1: information has also been post posted on the HBB blog.
- 6:51Speaker 1: I don't know as much off the top of my
- 6:53Speaker 1: head about that, and I don't have the post in
- 6:54Speaker 1: front of me, but I will repost that as well
- 7:00Speaker 1: this week and then again at least once next month
- 7:04Speaker 1: so people can see it, and we'll talk more extensively
- 7:08Speaker 1: about that after the mixed up meet up. This is,
- 7:13Speaker 1: by the way, not just for MRAs. The reason I'm
- 7:15Speaker 1: having it at an arcade is because of our participation
- 7:19Speaker 1: in the original and second gamer Gate controversies and now
- 7:24Speaker 1: the third gamer Gate controversy. Gamergate will never die heard,
- 7:29Speaker 1: So gamers are invited, not just welcome, but invited. So
- 7:35Speaker 1: if you were thinking about coming and maybe not going
- 7:38Speaker 1: to because you said, oh, this is just for MRIs, no,
- 7:41Speaker 1: for all of us. We have a lot of overlap.
- 7:45Speaker 3: There's a third iteration of gamer Gate now and I
- 7:50Speaker 3: just yeah, I been paying attention.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't even well, we'll waste a
- 7:56Speaker 1: whole show way to discuss this is actually about. And
- 8:01Speaker 1: but god, I can't think of the name of the
- 8:03Speaker 1: Australian group that did this, but payment processors. We're targeted
- 8:08Speaker 1: by a women's group, a feminist group in Australia, demanding
- 8:15Speaker 1: that essentially that that lud games be removed from gaming platforms,
- 8:21Speaker 1: and several did in response because the payment processors put
- 8:25Speaker 1: pressure on them. We won't we won't allow payment processing
- 8:28Speaker 1: for for your games, for your products if if you
- 8:35Speaker 1: have lud games on on your platforms. And so now
- 8:43Speaker 1: there's there's a fight, you know, and there there is
- 8:46Speaker 1: at least one platform that has come out and said,
- 8:49Speaker 1: all right, we're we're gonna counter this by having only
- 8:52Speaker 1: lud games, and it's it's gonna be a challenge for
- 8:55Speaker 1: them to get funding because you know, you're gonna have
- 8:57Speaker 1: to pay with cryptocurrency or or something. They won't be
- 9:01Speaker 1: able to accept credit cards. But what's interesting is, you
- 9:08Speaker 1: know this thing we discussed on Tuesday, Trump's executive order
- 9:13Speaker 1: telling banks that they couldn't debank people for being collective shout,
- 9:17Speaker 1: Thank you, Richard Pierre. But with Trump telling banks that
- 9:24Speaker 1: they can't debank people based on political reasons, the distinct
- 9:29Speaker 1: possibility exists that collective shout might be shit out of
- 9:34Speaker 1: luck in the future. So that's that's kind of what
- 9:38Speaker 1: I'm hoping. But there was definitely another controversy there, and
- 9:43Speaker 1: there was definitely some activism there was definitely some writing
- 9:46Speaker 1: to politicians and writing to you know, not that the
- 9:49Speaker 1: banks care who writes to them, but yeah, there you go.
- 9:56Speaker 1: So in a nutshell, they're not going to to stop,
- 10:00Speaker 1: and so we we can't stop either. Yeah, this is
- 10:04Speaker 1: this is essentially going to go on until some some
- 10:09Speaker 1: sort of event takes place that definitively puts the kabash
- 10:14Speaker 1: to the idea that you can control other people's associations
- 10:20Speaker 1: by using political activism against businesses, you know, targeting businesses
- 10:29Speaker 1: to uh, basically promote your own prejudices and like that
- 10:33Speaker 1: that's eventually gonna have to happen. Like they're they're still
- 10:36Speaker 1: in a fuck around portion right now. They haven't found
- 10:40Speaker 1: out yet that at some point they are going to
- 10:42Speaker 1: find out. So that's that's the way it is. And
- 10:48Speaker 1: in the meantime, speaking of women's groups targeting men for
- 10:55Speaker 1: for harassment campaigns and and ban hammers and slander and
- 11:00Speaker 1: all that jazz, we have the unwomen, the the legally
- 11:08Speaker 1: adult feel females who don't act very adult like this.
- 11:16Speaker 1: This almost reads like a high school slam book. I
- 11:20Speaker 1: don't know if you you know, what if you if
- 11:22Speaker 1: they did that, where you grew up, Lauren, But there
- 11:25Speaker 1: were there was this thing where I grew up where
- 11:30Speaker 1: they would get a few details about your your life,
- 11:33Speaker 1: like from a questionnaire or just from discussion or whatever,
- 11:40Speaker 1: and the gallas would make this book like multiple pages
- 11:44Speaker 1: in a notebook or folded paper whatever, where they would
- 11:50Speaker 1: use it as roasting material essentially, and like wherever they
- 11:58Speaker 1: didn't have something filled and they make it up based
- 12:02Speaker 1: on like educated guesses.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Isn't there a ligament? Isn't there a movie that does.
- 12:09Speaker 1: That something like that? Yeah, I can't.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Remember the name of the movie, but we didn't do
- 12:17Speaker 3: that over where I live.
- 12:18Speaker 2: But I I am familiar.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Yes, wait wait wait girls I grew up with did that.
- 12:28Speaker 4: I was considered.
- 12:29Speaker 5: Normal for high school girls or whatever, or college girls
- 12:35Speaker 5: or whatever to organize a propaganda network yep, in order
- 12:44Speaker 5: to bad mouth everyone. I did not know that was
- 12:48Speaker 5: normal even at the level of high school. But it's
- 12:53Speaker 5: obviously familiar at the level of the mainstream media because
- 12:57Speaker 5: that's literally all they do. And I don't know, I
- 13:03Speaker 5: don't know. I'm just sticking some shit to some walls. Now, guys,
- 13:06Speaker 5: I'm a conspiracy.
- 13:10Speaker 1: If you think it's bad in high school when you get.
- 13:14Speaker 1: The worst time of a kid's life is is you know,
- 13:18Speaker 1: like between the ages of twelve and fifteen in terms
- 13:22Speaker 1: of how how the other kids treat them like that
- 13:25Speaker 1: is peak bullying time for most kids. And so either
- 13:32Speaker 1: they're at the bully end and they're always getting into trouble,
- 13:34Speaker 1: or they're at the bullied end and they are always
- 13:38Speaker 1: getting something rotten done to them. And I don't know,
- 13:43Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if I could be considered
- 13:45Speaker 1: at both ends, because like my response to being bullied
- 13:48Speaker 1: was a little different. It depended on how competent the
- 13:55Speaker 1: bully was. You know, I might if I was being
- 13:59Speaker 1: hit and I couldn't abandon the fight, then I would
- 14:03Speaker 1: hit back. And sometimes I was more competent sometimes the
- 14:08Speaker 1: bully was. But if I was being picked on verbally,
- 14:14Speaker 1: you know, I am pretty mean verbally, like anybody that's
- 14:20Speaker 1: seen my Twitter knows. But you can't do that in school, right.
- 14:25Speaker 1: You can't cuss somebody up one side and down the
- 14:27Speaker 1: other in school because you get sent to the principal's office.
- 14:30Speaker 1: So more than once I was heard to yell something
- 14:34Speaker 1: in the hallway at some dipshit. You know, you can't
- 14:38Speaker 1: call somebody a dipshit. You can't yell fuck you, you know
- 14:42Speaker 1: you can't do any of that. So echoing down the
- 14:45Speaker 1: hallways of my junior high was fornication upon you, and
- 14:49Speaker 1: upon the equaling transportation you rode to this location, and
- 14:55Speaker 1: of course the next thing you know, kids are going,
- 14:57Speaker 1: what did she just say? But you know, I felt better,
- 15:03Speaker 1: and and and I ended up getting asked out by
- 15:08Speaker 1: a fellow nerd who understood completely what I said. And
- 15:13Speaker 1: and the worst one was calling a guy a hemorrhoid,
- 15:18Speaker 1: but I couldn't be sure. I went and get in
- 15:21Speaker 1: trouble for that, so I called him a bleeding inflammatory
- 15:24Speaker 1: wound upon the fundament and uh, which was why I
- 15:28Speaker 1: got asked out, because that that guy was the only
- 15:30Speaker 1: one who knew what that meant. Not the guy I
- 15:33Speaker 1: was targeting, but the guy that was standing next to
- 15:37Speaker 1: him that had to explain to him that I had
- 15:39Speaker 1: just referred to him as a hymnrhoid and that was
- 15:42Speaker 1: that was the end of. He didn't pick him anymore
- 15:44Speaker 1: after that because he didn't he didn't like not understanding
- 15:48Speaker 1: what I said to him. So, you know, I was
- 15:52Speaker 1: being bullied, and I bullied back, but so there you
- 15:56Speaker 1: go story in my life. But in any case, yeah,
- 16:02Speaker 1: these are these are the ways of the teenager today.
- 16:07Speaker 1: You would probably just get laughed at for that though,
- 16:11Speaker 1: and probably nobody would know that the fundament is an
- 16:14Speaker 1: archaic medical term for the anal sphincter. So onto the article.
- 16:22Speaker 1: So last week we finished up finding out that the
- 16:26Speaker 1: you and women only halfway understand men going their own way.
- 16:33Speaker 1: They don't they don't quite understand, uh quite why men
- 16:40Speaker 1: going their own way? I think the way they do,
- 16:44Speaker 1: I mean mhm. Thee minister are the ones that basically
- 16:49Speaker 1: originated the idea that if you have privilege, you're going
- 16:52Speaker 1: to be blind to it. And so of course they
- 16:55Speaker 1: don't understand men going their own way. They are the
- 17:00Speaker 1: ones with the privilege of lying, cheating, stealing and getting
- 17:07Speaker 1: away with it, you know, when when a man is
- 17:10Speaker 1: the person that they're targeting. So they have no idea
- 17:15Speaker 1: why men would avoid them.
- 17:17Speaker 5: The notion of men going their own way sort of
- 17:22Speaker 5: wouldn't exist in a patriarchy. This is the problem. I mean,
- 17:26Speaker 5: a patriarchy is men going their own way and dragging
- 17:30Speaker 5: women by their hair to a cave to rape them,
- 17:35Speaker 5: is what they're doing. To achieve it. So it's like
- 17:42Speaker 5: the idea of the manisphere, Like ask any feminists or
- 17:49Speaker 5: feminists to chase the leftist to describe the manisphere, and
- 17:52Speaker 5: they'll describe like a fringe, underground unusual, like anertainment of
- 18:01Speaker 5: of male in group preference. Meanwhile, they believe in a
- 18:08Speaker 5: patriarchy that the entire world is male in group preference.
- 18:13Speaker 5: And yet they're attacking this matosphere, this idea that someone
- 18:18Speaker 5: hads somewhere that maybe that men can have in group references.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Like the level of double think has gone cosmic at
- 18:30Speaker 5: this point. And I'm not even here for it. I mean,
- 18:33Speaker 5: i am here, Actually I'm not.
- 18:38Speaker 1: That's that's that's pretty much in a nutshell. I'm here
- 18:42Speaker 1: for it and I'm not. Is kind of what I've
- 18:44Speaker 1: seen of of MiG Cow, and it's it's kind of
- 18:48Speaker 1: what inspired that and the way that sort of the
- 18:57Speaker 1: original formation the Honeybaggers started with an argument in there
- 19:04Speaker 1: was a lady MRA subreddit. We really didn't none of
- 19:07Speaker 1: us really were active in there before this because we
- 19:11Speaker 1: were kind of busy in the MRA subreddit. We didn't
- 19:15Speaker 1: really need a separate space for women like that was
- 19:20Speaker 1: not really necessary but it was created anyway, and they
- 19:26Speaker 1: did invite MRAs in there to have a discussion with
- 19:33Speaker 1: them about things, and there was a there was a
- 19:35Speaker 1: guy named Factory too on Reddit that they they asked
- 19:41Speaker 1: a question of and he answered that question, and then
- 19:47Speaker 1: they circled the wagons around him and started fighting, firing
- 19:52Speaker 1: flaming acid tipped arrows at him, essentially barbs, and of
- 19:58Speaker 1: course one one of them was the don't you respect women? Barb,
- 20:04Speaker 1: which I fucking hate because respect is earned and you
- 20:10Speaker 1: shouldn't if you have to ask don't you respect women?
- 20:14Speaker 1: You don't deserve respect. If you're asking for respect, you
- 20:19Speaker 1: don't deserve it, right, But they really bullied the shit
- 20:25Speaker 1: out of him just for simply giving a rundown and
- 20:29Speaker 1: explanation of the actual nature of the various groups that
- 20:37Speaker 1: you and women belittled here, although not in cells, because
- 20:42Speaker 1: there wasn't much discussion about in cells at that time.
- 20:46Speaker 1: But he explained the men's rights movement, the differences between
- 20:49Speaker 1: the men's rights movement, MiG Tao, pick up artists, and
- 20:52Speaker 1: so on, and it was his explanations were very clear.
- 20:58Speaker 1: They were not He didn't write with kid gloves on.
- 21:04Speaker 1: He gave very very straightforward explanations of what's going on
- 21:08Speaker 1: with men, right, And these women were deeply offended by
- 21:14Speaker 1: not having their feelings cuddled in that writing, and they
- 21:19Speaker 1: felt talked down to, even though the question that they
- 21:24Speaker 1: had asked initially showed that they were ignorant of the
- 21:28Speaker 1: things that he was explaining, and in their arguments as
- 21:32Speaker 1: to why he didn't need to explain those they demonstrated
- 21:35Speaker 1: very clearly that they didn't understand right. Like that pretty
- 21:40Speaker 1: much solidified for me that, like I always thought, you know,
- 21:45Speaker 1: Mick Tawe was something that really was justified as long
- 21:52Speaker 1: as you're in a situation where you don't have to
- 21:56Speaker 1: do anything wrong and somebody can have you sent to
- 21:59Speaker 1: jail and you have to fight tooth and nail to
- 22:02Speaker 1: prove your innocence, and even if you do, people are
- 22:06Speaker 1: going to treat you like you probably were guilty and
- 22:09Speaker 1: you just got away with it. I can understand wanting
- 22:12Speaker 1: to distance yourself from the people that can do that
- 22:15Speaker 1: to you. I could certainly understand that if you have
- 22:20Speaker 1: a group of people that you're not allowed to vet
- 22:24Speaker 1: for character because it is considered an ism or a
- 22:28Speaker 1: phobia to vet that particular group for people or a
- 22:32Speaker 1: group of people for character, and then at the same
- 22:37Speaker 1: time as you're not allowed to vet them for character,
- 22:41Speaker 1: if you get involved with the wrong one, one that's unscrupulous,
- 22:45Speaker 1: one that has no moral code, no ethical code, and
- 22:51Speaker 1: she wants something from you, or is mad at you,
- 22:55Speaker 1: or just feels like it for no fucking reason at all,
- 23:00Speaker 1: like your life is ruined forever. Everything that you've ever
- 23:04Speaker 1: worked for is taken away and you can't get it back, right.
- 23:09Speaker 1: That is a fair reason, perfectly fair reason to say,
- 23:15Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just not going to associate with
- 23:17Speaker 1: those people. They're dangerous. If I'm not allowed to even
- 23:21Speaker 1: figure out which ones are safe to hang around with
- 23:25Speaker 1: and which ones aren't safe to hang around with, I
- 23:27Speaker 1: won't hang around with any of them. I won't trust
- 23:29Speaker 1: any of them. Perfectly understandable.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you don't have to be a male to
- 23:37Speaker 2: feel that way about women, because I am the same way.
- 23:41Speaker 2: I just I don't talk to them. I mean, under
- 23:46Speaker 2: very certain circumstances will I engage, you know, in conversation
- 23:51Speaker 2: with women. I just don't want to be around you.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Women are vicious, they are, yeah, yep. And it's like
- 24:01Speaker 2: I I'm I'm a stubborn ass. So you know, if
- 24:07Speaker 2: I decide I'm I'm going to be somewhere do something,
- 24:10Speaker 2: or be someplace, you know, be involved in something, it
- 24:13Speaker 2: has to be unreasonable for me to to push the
- 24:18Speaker 2: issue before I will not push the issue.
- 24:21Speaker 5: Right, But.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Not everybody can do that, and not everybody should have to.
- 24:30Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to struggle to have normal relationships with
- 24:36Speaker 1: other people. You shouldn't have to struggle against the tide
- 24:40Speaker 1: of legal not just oppression, but downright constant attack. Mm hmm,
- 24:50Speaker 1: right to have normal relationships with other people. It's bullshit,
- 24:54Speaker 1: but this is the way it is, uh for for
- 24:59Speaker 1: for men with women, you know, you have not just
- 25:04Speaker 1: feminist history but also gynocentric history. And it doesn't start
- 25:10Speaker 1: with all men are bad, all men are pigs or anything.
- 25:14Speaker 1: It starts with ladies first. And then once ladies first
- 25:20Speaker 1: has justified the idea that men are the lower class
- 25:27Speaker 1: and women are the upper class, and women are deserving
- 25:30Speaker 1: of more, and men are obligated to, if not give
- 25:36Speaker 1: that more, at least step out of the way. That
- 25:40Speaker 1: then leads it into all men are pigs all you know,
- 25:46Speaker 1: kill all men, blah blah blah, and the tolerance for that.
- 25:50Speaker 1: It leads into it's okay to sacrifice the freedom of
- 25:54Speaker 1: some innocent men if it protects x number of women
- 25:58Speaker 1: from you know, insert name of violent crime here that
- 26:03Speaker 1: is mostly committed against men and often by women. And
- 26:12Speaker 1: when you have the various types of assault and battery
- 26:15Speaker 1: that occur in domestic violence, for instance, two thirds of that,
- 26:21Speaker 1: approximately two thirds of that, a little more than two thirds.
- 26:24Speaker 1: In terms of one way violence is it's provable that
- 26:28Speaker 1: seventy percent of one way violence is female perpetrated in
- 26:32Speaker 1: domestic relationships, and about that is initiated by women as well.
- 26:40Speaker 1: And there there's research that shows that in violent relationships
- 26:46Speaker 1: where the violence goes both ways, that's associated with much
- 26:50Speaker 1: more frequent violence, much more frequent perpetration by women. It's
- 26:55Speaker 1: not associated with more frequent perpetration by men. So so
- 27:00Speaker 1: if only thirty percent of one way violence is male perpetrated,
- 27:05Speaker 1: and two way violence is not associated with more frequent
- 27:09Speaker 1: perpetration by men, that indicates that they're still only about
- 27:14Speaker 1: thirty percent. They're only at about thirty percent. And the
- 27:18Speaker 1: increase in violence overall is female driven. And there's there's
- 27:24Speaker 1: reason for that, and it's not that men are deserving
- 27:28Speaker 1: of being hit, it's the women don't face the same
- 27:31Speaker 1: taboos against violence. So you know, for instance, like I've
- 27:38Speaker 1: talked before about, I grew up in a neighborhood where
- 27:40Speaker 1: the kids were violent toward each other. We were there
- 27:43Speaker 1: were a lot of latchkey kids. We were frequently unsupervised,
- 27:47Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, it was acceptable in the eighties,
- 27:49Speaker 1: right that we might walk out the door at seven
- 27:53Speaker 1: am on a summer day and not come home till lunch,
- 27:57Speaker 1: and then go back out and not come home till then,
- 28:00Speaker 1: and then go back out and then not come home
- 28:03Speaker 1: till Mosquito bites covered every surface of skin not covered
- 28:07Speaker 1: by shorts and a T shirt and shoes. If we
- 28:12Speaker 1: were wearing shoes, we didn't always, so you know, unless
- 28:17Speaker 1: you were leaving your backyard, you left your backyard with
- 28:20Speaker 1: shoes on. But you didn't have to wear shoes in
- 28:21Speaker 1: your backyard unless you had a dog, for obviously reasons. Right,
- 28:26Speaker 1: But we were out all day, and we would get
- 28:29Speaker 1: into fights over stupid shit, like I got fish hooked
- 28:32Speaker 1: in the mouth once over a Fago bottle, an empty
- 28:35Speaker 1: Fago bottle out of the trash. Because we were making
- 28:39Speaker 1: sand castles, and I was using that for water. And
- 28:43Speaker 1: so this this level of violence. Right, girls could hit
- 28:49Speaker 1: each other and girls could hit boys, and the adults
- 28:54Speaker 1: wouldn't get involved. But you know, unless you were significantly
- 28:58Speaker 1: older than the person that you were fighting with, right,
- 29:01Speaker 1: or significantly younger. And that's only if somebody told an adult.
- 29:06Speaker 1: But if a boy hit a girl, everybody got involved.
- 29:10Speaker 1: And there were boys in my neighborhood that did not
- 29:14Speaker 1: live by that taboo. I got surrounded by four of
- 29:19Speaker 1: them one day when I was on the special swing
- 29:22Speaker 1: on the swing set. Most swing sets, you know, you
- 29:24Speaker 1: have those two sets of swings in each section, and
- 29:28Speaker 1: this one had one section that had one swing in
- 29:31Speaker 1: the middle, and because it was different, everybody liked that
- 29:33Speaker 1: swing and they were all going to beat me up,
- 29:37Speaker 1: you know, And so I started swinging higher and higher
- 29:41Speaker 1: and eventually just started kicking from the swing. And it
- 29:46Speaker 1: was a heck of a thing. I mean, that was
- 29:49Speaker 1: kind of an overreaction, and I knocked two of them
- 29:52Speaker 1: unconscious and knocked all four of them down, and I
- 29:56Speaker 1: ran and one of the other guys in the neighborhood,
- 30:00Speaker 1: an older boy, high school kid, because we were all
- 30:03Speaker 1: in elementary school sort of chased them down, the two
- 30:07Speaker 1: that were after me, and yelled at them and everything,
- 30:11Speaker 1: and that allowed me to get away. But that was
- 30:16Speaker 1: kind of the neighborhood I grew up in. So I learned,
- 30:21Speaker 1: you know, to avoid fights when I could and not
- 30:24Speaker 1: to engage in violence when I could. And it helped
- 30:27Speaker 1: me to realize the difference between how boys face consequences
- 30:35Speaker 1: after a fight versus how girls faced consequences after a fight.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Those guys got in trouble for hitting a girl, even
- 30:44Speaker 1: though they didn't actually hit me, they just threatened to,
- 30:48Speaker 1: and I preemptively, you know, engaged them because they were
- 30:54Speaker 1: threatening me, and I didn't get in trouble for knocking
- 30:59Speaker 1: them out. I probably handed out a couple of concussions
- 31:03Speaker 1: that day with my shoes, and uh, that was you know,
- 31:08Speaker 1: like elementary school kids, you know, you don't always understand
- 31:11Speaker 1: how quite how bad that is. But if you're a
- 31:16Speaker 1: girl that grows up in a neighborhood that you know,
- 31:18Speaker 1: nobody gets into fights on the other side of town
- 31:21Speaker 1: from us, where the the upper middle class and upper
- 31:26Speaker 1: class families that spent a lot more in their houses
- 31:32Speaker 1: than my family spent on theirs. And so on, and
- 31:36Speaker 1: they had a different way of handling everything. Like we
- 31:40Speaker 1: played outside all day. It was unsupervised and it was
- 31:44Speaker 1: not organized. Like we had you know, squirt guns and
- 31:50Speaker 1: toy guns, and if you didn't have enough of those
- 31:53Speaker 1: to go around, you picked up a stick that kind
- 31:55Speaker 1: of looked like a gun and you could yell bang.
- 31:59Speaker 1: You know, we had boxing matches in the backyard. We
- 32:02Speaker 1: played monkey bar tag, jumping around on the monkey bars,
- 32:05Speaker 1: played sandlot football and stuff like that. Had a lot
- 32:08Speaker 1: of fun. Across the crosstown they had soccer matches that
- 32:14Speaker 1: were organized, and they had Little League baseball that was organized.
- 32:18Speaker 1: You know, the kids on my side of town, some
- 32:20Speaker 1: of them joined those teams. I was in Little League softball,
- 32:24Speaker 1: little girls softball for a while. But everything those kids
- 32:28Speaker 1: across town did was organized. They never had a minute
- 32:32Speaker 1: where their play wasn't supervised by adults. And so when
- 32:37Speaker 1: they would have a conflict, there wasn't this, you know,
- 32:42Speaker 1: two or three hits in, the fight was over and
- 32:43Speaker 1: everybody settled their differences and now we're going to play
- 32:46Speaker 1: football together. There was a few that would last for weeks.
- 32:50Speaker 1: You can't come in my yard. My dad makes more
- 32:53Speaker 1: money than your dad. My mom makes more money than
- 32:56Speaker 1: your mom. My mom's prettier than your mom. Your mom's fat,
- 33:00Speaker 1: you know, And then they'd get in trouble for saying
- 33:02Speaker 1: something like that, right, and there would be no settling it,
- 33:09Speaker 1: and nobody learned that. The reason that you don't want
- 33:14Speaker 1: to start throwing fists at each other is because the
- 33:19Speaker 1: other person's going to hit back. And the reason that
- 33:23Speaker 1: you don't want to settle your conflicts with violence is
- 33:26Speaker 1: because it hurts, and sometimes things turn out worse than
- 33:31Speaker 1: you intended for them to turn out. I didn't want
- 33:35Speaker 1: to knock anybody out in that situation. I just didn't
- 33:37Speaker 1: want to get beaten up over a swing. Right. So
- 33:42Speaker 1: when when girls grow up, having had none of those
- 33:46Speaker 1: conflicts and having learned none of those lessons, they end
- 33:50Speaker 1: up they know that they can hit boys, and boys
- 33:55Speaker 1: can't hit them back, right. They know that they can
- 33:59Speaker 1: use that, and they don't learn to consider what it
- 34:06Speaker 1: does to your relationship with another person if you develop
- 34:10Speaker 1: a habit of pushing and hitting and bullying them all
- 34:13Speaker 1: the time, and so you end up with more violence
- 34:18Speaker 1: being female perpetrated and less violence being male perpetrated. Because
- 34:24Speaker 1: males learn the hard way to use less violence, and
- 34:29Speaker 1: females don't have that lesson literally hammered home. But yeah,
- 34:40Speaker 1: because of that situation, there's a lot of guys that
- 34:45Speaker 1: end up in jail after getting the shit beat out
- 34:49Speaker 1: of them by their wives or getting boiling water poured
- 34:52Speaker 1: on them, or she tries to stab them and injures
- 34:56Speaker 1: herself in the process, which there's a case in California
- 35:02Speaker 1: that I referred to in another video that that actually happened.
- 35:06Speaker 1: She tried to stab him, and he put his arm
- 35:09Speaker 1: up in front of himself to block her from stabbing him,
- 35:13Speaker 1: and she brought her arm down on his arm, and
- 35:17Speaker 1: his bones are denser and heavier, and so she broke
- 35:20Speaker 1: her wrist with the force of her stabbing attempt, and
- 35:25Speaker 1: so he was arrested under the primary aggressor policy. And
- 35:31Speaker 1: there these are things that you know when you take
- 35:35Speaker 1: them into consideration. If I was male, that would be
- 35:40Speaker 1: a deal breaker. If if I knew that I wasn't
- 35:46Speaker 1: allowed to vet a potential girlfriend for character, and she
- 35:53Speaker 1: could lie about me or engage in violence against me.
- 35:58Speaker 1: And not only can I am I not allowed to
- 36:00Speaker 1: defend myself, but also anything that she does that causes
- 36:07Speaker 1: her harm or creates an appearance that violence happened is
- 36:13Speaker 1: going to come down on my head, like I wouldn't
- 36:15Speaker 1: get involved with women. I wouldn't want anything to do
- 36:18Speaker 1: with women. So yeah, I always kind of figured, uh,
- 36:23Speaker 1: Mike Taw were just being reasonable. It was it's a
- 36:28Speaker 1: reasonable act of self defense and an unreasonable environment.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:35Speaker 1: So but that's that's not what It's not what unwomen thinks, right, clearly.
- 36:44Speaker 1: It's they suggest that society is rigged against men and
- 36:49Speaker 1: that it is best to avoid women and even mainstream
- 36:52Speaker 1: society altogether. Well, yeah, I would suggest that society is
- 36:58Speaker 1: rigged against men at this point, and and it has
- 37:02Speaker 1: been for a long time. If you don't believe me,
- 37:08Speaker 1: go look up a blog. Let me see if I can.
- 37:15Speaker 1: It's unknown miss Andry all one word dot blogspot dot com,
- 37:23Speaker 1: and uh it's if you it'll it'll be called unknown
- 37:27Speaker 1: gender History. It used to be called the Unknown History
- 37:29Speaker 1: of miss Andry. But if you down the indexes, there
- 37:34Speaker 1: are some interesting things that took place in history, like
- 37:41Speaker 1: the Badger Game and the was it the Lonely Hearts?
- 37:45Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find I'm looking at
- 37:48Speaker 1: it on my other computer. Yeah, the Lonely Hearts racket,
- 37:52Speaker 1: the female serial killers is quite an interesting set of
- 37:56Speaker 1: news stories. There's there's a lot on this blog. There's
- 38:01Speaker 1: a lot of history, and a lot of it is
- 38:04Speaker 1: shown in news articles. So it's not just stuff that
- 38:12Speaker 1: he's talking about. He's he's posted, he's posted evidence.
- 38:21Speaker 5: And it hasn't just been going on for a century, folks,
- 38:25Speaker 5: It's been going on for closer to a millennium. I
- 38:29Speaker 5: mean about a millennium really. It's I know, we all
- 38:34Speaker 5: talk about feminism in this thing that we do, but
- 38:39Speaker 5: it goes back further than way further than feminism was
- 38:44Speaker 5: ever a word. Romantic chivalry is what is what we're
- 38:47Speaker 5: called in it now, because that's that that that is
- 38:51Speaker 5: what happened. And yeah, yeah, it's the general idea that
- 38:55Speaker 5: men should bend the knee to women because it's a
- 39:00Speaker 5: apparently romantic and yeah uh, it's tempting to assume that
- 39:07Speaker 5: feminism merely erupted from communism, but no, communism erupted from
- 39:13Speaker 5: romantic chivalry, because the strong must bow down to the weak.
- 39:20Speaker 5: That's those were the seeds of that idea.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and until people, until people let large figure
- 39:32Speaker 4: that out, we're just going to keep spiraling into this destruction.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Romantic chivalry is a perversion of an
- 39:43Speaker 1: older credo. Chivalry was about owning a horse at a
- 39:49Speaker 1: time when most people didn't own horses or have any
- 39:55Speaker 1: mode of transportation. They didn't have carts, they didn't have
- 39:59Speaker 1: anything like that unless you know, like that was expensive.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Owning a horse was was almost especially if you also
- 40:06Speaker 1: had armor, was almost like owning a tank. And so
- 40:12Speaker 1: the rules of chivalry were about literally preventing knights who
- 40:20Speaker 1: owned horses from becoming a hell on earth for everybody else.
- 40:26Speaker 1: It wasn't about bowing to the weak. It was about
- 40:30Speaker 1: recognizing that that your fellow human beings were still human
- 40:36Speaker 1: beings even if you had something they didn't, and don't
- 40:40Speaker 1: don't abuse your power just because you can. And what
- 40:46Speaker 1: romantic chivalry did was it turned that on its head
- 40:50Speaker 1: and said, well, women get to abuse their sexual power
- 40:57Speaker 1: and the power of their their vulnerability. Essentially the and
- 41:04Speaker 1: by the power of your vulnerability, I'm talking about the
- 41:08Speaker 1: fact that men prefer to protect women and especially the
- 41:12Speaker 1: women around them, rather than to allow bad things to
- 41:17Speaker 1: happen to women, and they have even before romantic chivalry
- 41:24Speaker 1: existed even before society became guynocentric. They protected women as mothers,
- 41:31Speaker 1: and they protected women based on women's function in the world.
- 41:35Speaker 1: So it was about protecting the function of women more
- 41:38Speaker 1: than it was about protecting the individual women themselves. But
- 41:42Speaker 1: women began to exploit that during the era of the
- 41:48Speaker 1: beginning of romantic chivalry and guinocentric thought, and that essentially
- 41:56Speaker 1: turned chivalry the expectation of chivalry into an abuse use
- 42:00Speaker 1: of power rather than it being a means of preventing
- 42:04Speaker 1: abuse of power. And it's one of those things that
- 42:08Speaker 1: at the time that had happened, everybody thought that it
- 42:11Speaker 1: was some step forward, but in reality it wasn't. It
- 42:17Speaker 1: was a step downward. And until we get back to
- 42:22Speaker 1: a more egalitarian outlook on accountability and balance of power,
- 42:29Speaker 1: you know, like social power and so on, we're going
- 42:33Speaker 1: to end up, you know, continuing the gender war that
- 42:37Speaker 1: we're in, continuing the downward spiral that our society is in,
- 42:41Speaker 1: and make toowe will continue to be justified. So I
- 42:46Speaker 1: think the biggest objection women have to make too is
- 42:50Speaker 1: that they do not kow tao to the expectation of chivalry,
- 42:56Speaker 1: and they shouldn't. There's no for that expectation. But in
- 43:05Speaker 1: any case, they go on to start to describe our
- 43:09Speaker 1: thoughts as as the manisphere. These these thoughts have thoughts
- 43:16Speaker 1: on our thoughts, the ones we provoken. Yes, they are
- 43:22Speaker 1: the provoked thoughts, and they they are talking about how
- 43:26Speaker 1: they are going to fight back. So they have defined
- 43:30Speaker 1: red pill ideology. Now for for anybody that's actually a
- 43:35Speaker 1: newcomer to the movement, you know, the red pill metaphor.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Everybody knows. I think the red pill metaphor from the
- 43:41Speaker 1: matrix the idea that the world you live in isn't
- 43:46Speaker 1: the real world. It's it's an approximation of the real world.
- 43:50Speaker 1: It's what you perceive. And of course in the movie,
- 43:56Speaker 1: it's that you're in a simulation, right, and and when
- 44:00Speaker 1: you take that pill, you come out of the simulation,
- 44:03Speaker 1: when you take that red pill, and that's your acceptance
- 44:07Speaker 1: that you're in this simulation and you're wanting to you're
- 44:10Speaker 1: wanting out. But then I.
- 44:12Speaker 5: Take both pills, by the way, and I live with
- 44:15Speaker 5: my decision.
- 44:16Speaker 1: There you go. In political discussion and gender issues discussion,
- 44:28Speaker 1: the idea of the red pill is when you realize
- 44:33Speaker 1: the legal environment, you can't unsee it. You you recognize
- 44:38Speaker 1: that the law actually is in several ways discriminatory against men,
- 44:45Speaker 1: and men have several areas of disadvantage in society, and uh,
- 44:51Speaker 1: there's there's more than one of those ways. There's there's
- 44:55Speaker 1: numerous ways in which that is influenced by discriminatory law,
- 45:00Speaker 1: discriminatory policy policy. Right, So, once you start to notice,
- 45:07Speaker 1: once you start to realize just how much law is gendered,
- 45:12Speaker 1: just how many social expectations don't don't vibe with women's
- 45:20Speaker 1: claim of equality. Just how many times men are told,
- 45:25Speaker 1: you know, you can't discriminate against women, but they can.
- 45:28Speaker 1: They can discriminate against you, or they can make the
- 45:31Speaker 1: government discriminate against you. And it's not the same because
- 45:34Speaker 1: you have male privilege. It's it's an undescribed, uncategorized, unfalsifiable,
- 45:43Speaker 1: immeasurable privilege that you have just as part of the patriarchy.
- 45:47Speaker 1: And that privilege means that we get to treat you
- 45:50Speaker 1: like shit. You have the privilege of being treated like shit.
- 45:53Speaker 1: You have the privilege of dying younger than women, of
- 45:55Speaker 1: being the majority of workplace accidents workplace death, and being
- 46:02Speaker 1: the only sex that can be forced against your will
- 46:06Speaker 1: to go into war the privilege of being falsely accused
- 46:14Speaker 1: of having no recourse, the privilege of having your children
- 46:19Speaker 1: taken away because of your gender, because of your sex,
- 46:25Speaker 1: the privilege of being obligated to support another adult for
- 46:29Speaker 1: the rest of your life because of your sex. Like
- 46:33Speaker 1: the privilege, the privilege of being disadvantaged from day one
- 46:41Speaker 1: in education because of your sex. Very very dubious, this
- 46:47Speaker 1: privilege stuff, right, because you have male privilege after you
- 46:52Speaker 1: get out of school, after the discrimination that you faced
- 46:55Speaker 1: in school, you get discriminated against in the workplace using
- 47:00Speaker 1: human resources, uh, to enforce affirmative action laws for women. Right.
- 47:09Speaker 1: That's yeah, that that that's pretty much male privilege in
- 47:14Speaker 1: a nutshell, the privilege of being last and being responsible
- 47:19Speaker 1: for things that you have no control over. And uh,
- 47:25Speaker 1: you know, if you if you really want a red pill,
- 47:29Speaker 1: that would be the accountability gap. But what do what
- 47:34Speaker 1: do the un women have to say about this? They
- 47:38Speaker 1: say red pill ideology or to be a red pilled
- 47:41Speaker 1: means to wake up to a reality that the world
- 47:44Speaker 1: favors women over men. In reference to the movie The Matrix,
- 47:47Speaker 1: it suggests that people who disagree have taken the blue pill,
- 47:52Speaker 1: so they don't really discuss the reality of it, right,
- 48:00Speaker 1: and they're not exactly characterizing it correctly. Either. The red
- 48:06Speaker 1: pill does not say that women are never disadvantaged or
- 48:10Speaker 1: that society necessarily always favors women over men. It looks
- 48:18Speaker 1: at the law, It looks at accountability. It looks at
- 48:24Speaker 1: who is protected when it comes to a right to
- 48:29Speaker 1: some recourse if a violent crime is committed against you
- 48:32Speaker 1: by the opposite sex. Looks at who is protected from
- 48:36Speaker 1: discrimination in the business world and the education world, and
- 48:41Speaker 1: who is subject to obligation under the law, and who
- 48:45Speaker 1: is not, and what is the cause of this? And
- 48:55Speaker 1: you and women won't look too deeply into that because
- 48:58Speaker 1: they would have to admit that it's not just a
- 49:08Speaker 1: it's not just a perceived reality. There are many ways
- 49:13Speaker 1: in which society does give women preferential treatment, and those
- 49:19Speaker 1: ways do profoundly affect the lives of men. Then gendered
- 49:28Speaker 1: hate speech by the way, this is hate speech to
- 49:30Speaker 1: say to say all of that, according to according to
- 49:33Speaker 1: unwomen a world, all women are like that used to
- 49:39Speaker 1: stereotype women, so they don't even know they don't even
- 49:42Speaker 1: talk about the history behind that either.
- 49:44Speaker 5: Right.
- 49:46Speaker 1: That started as a response to not all women are
- 49:52Speaker 1: like that. Uh, And that started as a response to
- 49:58Speaker 1: all men are like that. So you had discussion taking
- 50:03Speaker 1: place in other forums before Twitter existed, other forums before
- 50:08Speaker 1: Reddit existed, and eventually, you know, you have reddits men's
- 50:12Speaker 1: rights activists Subreddit. That really is what grew the movement
- 50:15Speaker 1: as big as it is now. And you had a
- 50:18Speaker 1: lot of activism starting to take place on Twitter around
- 50:23Speaker 1: twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, which which grew because people were
- 50:29Speaker 1: coming there from Reddit. I don't think there's quite as
- 50:32Speaker 1: much on Facebook, but there's some. But it's always been
- 50:35Speaker 1: like before, there were the types of social media that
- 50:39Speaker 1: exist today. You had bulletin boards, you had Usenet, you
- 50:43Speaker 1: had all kinds of different like message messaging systems, you
- 50:48Speaker 1: had you know, chat rooms, you had other other locations,
- 50:55Speaker 1: different websites, comments in under, articles on under publications, and
- 51:01Speaker 1: so on. And women would make these, particularly feminists, but
- 51:07Speaker 1: women in general would make these generalizations of men being
- 51:12Speaker 1: violent or being dangerous, being you know, adulterous, you know,
- 51:18Speaker 1: whatever stereotype they wanted to promote, and it would be
- 51:22Speaker 1: pointed out you're talking about a tiny percentage of the
- 51:25Speaker 1: male population. Like if you look at the violent crime statistics,
- 51:30Speaker 1: you find that less than one percent of the population
- 51:33Speaker 1: is responsible for violent crimes in the United States, for example,
- 51:39Speaker 1: and that's the overall population male and female. But it's
- 51:44Speaker 1: still less than one percent of the male population, and
- 51:49Speaker 1: violent crimes are committed by both sexes. Men are usually
- 51:53Speaker 1: more likely to get convicted. But in any case, we're
- 51:58Speaker 1: still talking about less than one percent the population. But
- 52:02Speaker 1: feminists will generalize this to all men. And then when
- 52:07Speaker 1: men point out that you know you're talking about you're
- 52:09Speaker 1: you're condemning all men based on what less than one
- 52:12Speaker 1: percent of the population does. Uh, feminists, will you know,
- 52:16Speaker 1: do you want a cookie for being one of the
- 52:18Speaker 1: nice guys? Like? No, men just don't want to be
- 52:22Speaker 1: condemned as one of the violent men, one of the
- 52:26Speaker 1: one percent less than one percent of men who are
- 52:29Speaker 1: violent when they're not that guy. Right. But then when
- 52:39Speaker 1: when MRAs started talking about the law allows this to happen,
- 52:45Speaker 1: and there are women who take advantage of it, even
- 52:49Speaker 1: if they are not saying all women are like that,
- 52:52Speaker 1: even if they're not saying this is this problem is
- 52:59Speaker 1: female naked in nature, and women need to be reined in.
- 53:03Speaker 1: If they're just saying the law needs changed because this
- 53:06Speaker 1: is a way in which it can be abused, and
- 53:09Speaker 1: there have been documented examples of women abusing it. The
- 53:15Speaker 1: first response feminists had was, well, not all women are
- 53:18Speaker 1: like that. You can't paint all women with a broad
- 53:19Speaker 1: brush like that. We can paint all women with a
- 53:22Speaker 1: broad brush. That's why it's called broad but in any case, Yeah,
- 53:29Speaker 1: The response basically is, you know what, all women are
- 53:32Speaker 1: like that, And it's not to say that every woman
- 53:38Speaker 1: will abuse the law in that manner. It is to
- 53:42Speaker 1: say that every woman can. Every woman can get away
- 53:48Speaker 1: with that. If I completely changed my personality and became
- 53:55Speaker 1: a wholly different person than I was, and I decided
- 53:59Speaker 1: for some bizarre reason that I no longer loved the
- 54:04Speaker 1: man of my dreams right and that I no longer
- 54:07Speaker 1: wanted to be with the other half of my soul,
- 54:12Speaker 1: that I could do exactly the same thing as the
- 54:16Speaker 1: individual who I was talking about when I first became
- 54:21Speaker 1: part of the online men's movement. It can be just
- 54:27Speaker 1: as bad. I know exactly what I could do, and
- 54:30Speaker 1: I would never do anything like that to anybody because
- 54:33Speaker 1: it's horrible. But that doesn't change the fact that if
- 54:39Speaker 1: something in me snapped and changed the law wouldn't stop
- 54:47Speaker 1: me from doing it. That's wrong. I shouldn't be able
- 54:54Speaker 1: to do that. Nobody should be able to do that.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Nobody should be able to drag someone through the underbelly
- 54:59Speaker 1: of the criminal and family court systems for nothing. That
- 55:06Speaker 1: should never happen. It shouldn't be doable, not by men,
- 55:12Speaker 1: not by women. And that's what all women are like.
- 55:16Speaker 1: That means not that all women will do that, but
- 55:22Speaker 1: that all women can do that, and there is nothing
- 55:28Speaker 1: in the law to stop them. They literally have to
- 55:33Speaker 1: get to the point of qualifying as a vexatious litigant
- 55:37Speaker 1: before you can do anything about it. They can commit
- 55:41Speaker 1: process crimes, they can defame, they can even engage in violence,
- 55:48Speaker 1: and if they are protected by their allegations of domestic
- 55:53Speaker 1: violence and their use of a domestic violence victim's advocacy group,
- 56:01Speaker 1: they'll get away with it. They won't get arrested. The
- 56:05Speaker 1: vexatious litigant in the Seven Years in Hell case went
- 56:09Speaker 1: to the home of one of the witnesses. She engaged
- 56:13Speaker 1: in witness intimidation. She went to the home of one
- 56:16Speaker 1: of the witnesses in that case and stabbed their dog
- 56:23Speaker 1: like engaged in animal abuse and slashed their tires.
- 56:29Speaker 6: A damn and they called police, and police literally told
- 56:36Speaker 6: this woman who had been you know, her home had
- 56:41Speaker 6: been attacked, her yard had been invaded, her tires had
- 56:44Speaker 6: been slashed.
- 56:46Speaker 1: We can't, we can't do anything about this because it's
- 56:48Speaker 1: a domestic incident and you know, our Artemis House is
- 56:53Speaker 1: handling the perpetrator's case and we we can't go again them. Man,
- 57:04Speaker 1: could you not all women have that power? That that's
- 57:16Speaker 1: wrongful power. Nobody should be able to do that. No, So, yeah,
- 57:27Speaker 1: they can't touch all women are like that because when
- 57:30Speaker 1: they get down to what it really means, it doesn't
- 57:34Speaker 1: look good for women. Femoids or phos female humanoid organism.
- 57:44Speaker 1: By the way, female in cells also known as female
- 57:51Speaker 1: dating strategists, which is hilarious, have a male equivalent of
- 57:57Speaker 1: this that is not on this list. F F h
- 58:00Speaker 1: o's Female humanoid organism is an insulting term, even though
- 58:05Speaker 1: it has the words human in it. If you call
- 58:07Speaker 1: women human, that's an insult that tells you what they
- 58:11Speaker 1: think women are more than human, meant to suggest women
- 58:16Speaker 1: are not only less than men, but less than human.
- 58:19Speaker 1: Except there's a there's an issue with that if you
- 58:26Speaker 1: if you say I support men's rights because men are human,
- 58:30Speaker 1: men's human rights because men are human, you get you
- 58:34Speaker 1: get ridiculed by feminists. Actually did an experiment with a
- 58:39Speaker 1: sign and they took it and, like I kind of expected,
- 58:46Speaker 1: photoshopped all kinds of insulting statements into it. I think
- 58:52Speaker 1: I still have access to that on Facebook. The the
- 58:57Speaker 1: they went, you know, full like men men and slave
- 59:01Speaker 1: women and therefore if you're if you support men's rights,
- 59:05Speaker 1: you're a slave and you want to be abused and
- 59:07Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And then one of them, because I
- 59:11Speaker 1: had a curtain behind me that had artwork of two
- 59:16Speaker 1: dragons in a yin yang symbol, that one was like,
- 59:20Speaker 1: I support men's rights because dragon curtain. These women really
- 59:26Speaker 1: couldn't handle themselves. But so they don't like the idea
- 59:31Speaker 1: of men being human. They and they do have an
- 59:38Speaker 1: equivalent male humanoid organism. The other thing that they like
- 59:42Speaker 1: to do is refer to men by parts of their genitalia.
- 59:46Speaker 1: So in the Female Dating Strategy forums before they went private,
- 59:54Speaker 1: because they didn't it couldn't handle being criticized for the
- 59:56Speaker 1: way they talked about men, they referred to men as
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: groats like you're not You're not a human being. You're
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: not even a male human being. You're not even a
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: male humanoid organism. You're just the skin on your testicles
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: that covers your testicles. That's its.
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: Well, I called my boss a dickhead, and that's okay
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: because he actually.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: Is a dickhead. He's he's of ship.
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: But he just got fired yesterday, so I'm doing myself.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: Yes, So there you go. Well, that's that's fair. I've
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: I've called a fair number of my boss's cunts that
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: would be both sexiest but mostly female. Yah, I've gotten
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: along with most of my male bosses. I've gotten along
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: with most of my female bosses. But there's a there's
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: a few women that have just been absolute holy terrors
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: and and them, you know, as I have called them cunts.
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: So there you go. But I've never thought of calling
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: somebody a scrote a hemorrhoid, but not a scrote. I guess.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: I guess these women think that the scrotum is gross
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: or something. It's just skin. Then we have the last one. Hypergamous.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: Hypergamus is essentially the practice of marrying up, the practice
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: of improving your economic situation by marrying a man who
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: makes more money than you, or improving your social situation
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: by marrying a man who has more social standing than you. Like,
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: maybe he's an executive, he's the popular guy in class.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: And so they describe it used to derogatorily refer to
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: women being obsessed with marrying up with men who are
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: physically attractive and financially successful. It's also a fact of life.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: Most women do that. Most women look for a guy
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: who is, you know, better looking than they are. Most
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: women look for a guy who is more economically successful
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: than they are. Right, they'll declare themselves equal as long
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: as they can still have a provider. Most women look
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: for a guy who is in a job or a
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: profession or a position within his company that will improve
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: their social standing. Right, oh I married a doctor, oh
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: I married a lawyer. Oh I married a chief executive
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: of this big company you know, blah blah blah. And
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: so they are looking for like the top twenty percent
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: and fighting over the top twenty percent, and then not
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: understanding why as a sixth she can't find anybody who's
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: interested in settling down with her mm hmm. And and
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: it's not rare, it's common very.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: Very I mean, you know, obviously not all, not all,
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: but most most women are like that. And I mean,
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: I guess in some sense, there's a little bit of
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: logic behind it. You know, you want you want to
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: marry someone, You want to be with someone who can
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: financially be responsible for you when you're child well, but
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: your children, Like if you're gonna have children and you
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: can't work, you know, you need someone that's going to
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: be able to take care of the financial situation in
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: the household. So you know, in some sense it makes
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: it does make sense, but this is not what they're doing.
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: They go for just like you said, they go for
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: the top twenty percent, you know, yep.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: And this is just crazy because it's historically there was,
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: you know, a reason why women might want to marry up,
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: but in modern times, when you can earn your own
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: damn money, there isn't. Yep, absolutely right, but they do.
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: They will obsess and they'll they'll obsess over Like I
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: have watched women who are more out of shape than
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: I am, which I think is saying a lot because
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: I'm pretty out of shape. I've watched women who are
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: more out of shape than I am when they describe
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: their standards. They're expecting a guy to be ripped, right,
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: They're expecting him to be in good health. And you
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: know why, It's not just because it's physically attractive, because
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: dad bods are adorable, right, It's because they want him
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: to be able to work. Mm hmm. So they're looking
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: for a guy that's not going to be calling insect.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: They're looking for a guy that's not going to be
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: having a heart attack, and they're gonna have to take
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: care of him, right, That's that's what they're looking for.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: They're looking for a guy that can pick them up
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: and carry them over the threshold. So romantic. Sorry, I'm
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: gonna throw up guys, but dad bods are cuddlier, by
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: the way. But in any case, not that not that
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: muscles are bad. Muscles are good too. Like, if a
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: guy is, uh, it is ripped, there's nothing wrong with that.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: I'm not down on bodybuilders, you know, or anything like that,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: just there's there's also nothing wrong with the fact that
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: as you age, you're going to that's that's kind of
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: what happens to the human body. And not everybody's gonna
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: be in the same physical condition. But if you're going
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: to expect your guy to look like a bodybuilder. Right,
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: You shouldn't look like Lizo, right, you know? Not that
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: not that there's any stipulation that nobody should look like Lizo.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Just you don't have the right to judge somebody for
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: for not looking like they just stepped off of a
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: stage oiled up with with the bikini bottom and all that. Uh,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: if you look like Lizo, you know. And and similarly,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: if you're five foot two, don't tell a guy he
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: has to be six feet tall. Bullshit. I was five
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: foot nine at my peak height, and I dated guys
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: that were shorter than me and had a blast. There's
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: there's no reason why you can't connect with somebody who
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: isn't abnormally high. It is above average, right, Yeah, average
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: height is shorter than that. When I was growing up,
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: average height for a man, I think they said was
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: five ft seven or five foot eight, something like that.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: So if I dated an average height guy, I was
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: taller than him, and if I wore heels, I was
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: a lot taller than him. Never stopped me, shouldn't stop you.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: You get to know people because of their personality, right,
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: You get to know people because of their character, not
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: not not their abs but yeah, hypergamus that that behavior. Historically,
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: there was a you know, that economic relationship between marriage
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: and business in that you know, if your your family
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: were goat farmers and some other family were sheep farmers,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: and he might want to combine lands and family together
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: and become a big conglomerate farm. You know, one of
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: the sons from one family would marry one of the
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: daughters from the other family, and it was economic and
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: they would be paired together if they were compatible and
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: had the same values and had had similar ideas about
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: how to run the farm, and they would become dedicated
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: to each other. Falling in love was not a thing.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: He didn't fall in love. You developed love. You grew love, right,
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: And that's that's really the way it should be too.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: You find somebody that you uh, you can you can
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: dedicate yourself to because you have the same values, you
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: have the same interests, you want the same things in life.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: You want to raise a family together, or you want
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: to start a business together, or you want to support
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: the same causes together. You know, something along those lines,
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: and you build love out of that. It's not something
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: that happens by accident, right, So Historically, when when a
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: family was looking for you know, where are we going
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: to send our daughter to become a bride? Who are
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: we going to pair our daughter with? Hypergamy existed because
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: the family wanted to prove their economic circumstances all right,
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: and the appearance of a woman would matter, because the
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: family of a guy looking for a bride for their
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: son wanted a woman who was healthy, who would bear
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: children and raise them well, and whose children would survive
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: because you know, back in the day before things like
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: antibiotics and modern medicine, childhood death was common, and so
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: it was. It was a norm because of the environment
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: in which marriage happened and because of the political nature
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: of marriage, and it has unfortunately survived the death of
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: the environment in which marriage happened, which marriage was between families,
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: not just between the couple that got married. Now it's
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: just between the couple that got married. They don't have
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: the family support like they did before. And the divorce
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: rate has skyrocketed. It's not the lifelong obligation that it
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: used to be, and women walk out like it's nothing.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: Seventy percent of divorce is initiated, approximately seventy percent, like
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: sixty nine or something is initiated by women, so obviously
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: it's not working. Hypergamy is not working like it did before.
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: Women are not happy with that, and it's not supported
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: by the family like it was before, and the environment
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: in which it's occurring has changed dramatically enough that women
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: don't know what they're looking for when they do that,
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: and they're whatever they are looking for, they're not getting
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: it right, and they're not satisfied with loving someone, dedicating
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: themselves to someone and being loved back and having that
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: dedication back. They add a tit for tat and nag
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: and demand equal everything, even if what they're demanding isn't
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: really equal. But again, you and women won't talk about
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: that because it doesn't serve their interests. They want to
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: pretend it's not real. And men are complaining about it
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: or talking about it just because they hate women, and
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: why would they go through all that. Well, this is
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: the rest of the article, Real world Impact, How gender
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: stereotypes harm everyone. In the manisphere, everybody loses. This is
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: their their words, not mine. Of course, in the manisphere,
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: everybody loses. Misogyny and gender inequality are harmful to men
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: as well as the women. Yeah, patriarchy hurts men too. Guys,
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: you knew it was coming.
- 1:13:13Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's bullshit, but you know, there is no
- 1:13:21Speaker 7: by the way, patriarchy to patriarchy of feminist imagining isn't real.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: There there was a balance of gender obligations, gender based obligations,
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: gender based restrictions, and gender based rights. Both sexes had
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: them all three under coverture, and that's still true under
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: guardianship as well. What feminists did was they came along
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: and said, all the obligations and restrictions that women face,
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: we don't want those. All of the rights that women
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: had have, we want to preserve those, but we also
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: want all of the rights that men have, but we
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: don't want any of their restrictions or obligations either. And
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: that's what they fought for and changes to law and policy,
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: and that's what they got. So, yeah, misogyny and gender
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: inequality are harmful to men. Well, gender inequality is harmful
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: to men. Misogyny is overblown too, right, And this is
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: this is an interesting side note. If you look up
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: the meaning of misogyny, it has extra right. If you
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: look up the meaning of missandry, it's a hatred of men.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: But if you look up the meaning of misogyny, it
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: has a whole big entry in most dictionary. He's where
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: it's it's not just hatred of women, hatred, fear, distrust,
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: prejudice against and and then it'll give examples and and
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: it'll be things like thinking a woman can't do everything
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: that a man can do the same that a man
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: can do it. Uh and uh. You know, if if
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: you're a woman and you think that's misogynistic, misogynistic, I
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: challenge you to write your name in the snow with
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: p oh. And also to bend steal with your bare hands,
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: because I've seen my husband do that. Jeez. There was
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: a festival we were at where they have you know how,
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: they sometimes take an old car, an old junker, and
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: you're allowed to hit it with a sledgehammer for for
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: a minute for a dollar. He was having a bad day,
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: so he paid five bucks and the guy took one
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: look at him and he was like, you know what,
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: you can have all the time you want. So he
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: was beating the hell out of this car with a sledgehammer,
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: and he was trying to cave in as one part
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: of the roof and it kept hitting the door frame
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: and it was really annoying him. So, you know, somebody
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: else had already busted out all the windows. The door
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: was permanently broken open, so he grabbed the top of
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: the doorframe and he just bent it down like a
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: coat hanger. Daily Yeah, I was like, yeah, I can't
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: do that. I'm not equal very much not equal, not
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: that I don't. I don't think all men can do that.
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: He's uniquely strong, there was. I've seen other things like
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: that with him. But you know, my brother is significantly
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: stronger than me, you know. And and I couldn't pick
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: somebody my size up, but he could, for instance, you know,
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: even at our age. We're in our fifties. You know,
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: maybe he would hurt his back, but he'd still physically
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: be able to do it. I couldn't if if I
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: tried to, my muscles would not perform the task. Right Uh.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: And that's that's the difference. That's the difference between male
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: and female right there. And in terms of physical strength,
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: he could outrun me, not just because of my asthma.
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: You know, he could always outrun me even when I
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: was in tip top shape, even when I was in
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: good shape, and he wasn't. So but yeah. The idea
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: of noticing gender differences is referred to as misogyny by feminists.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: Everything I just said they would call misogynistic. Also, I
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: have been called a misogynist for stating that if something
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: is illegal and a person breaks that law and commits
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: that crime, whether or not that person is is convicted
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: of that crime and faces punishment, and how much punishment
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: that person faces should not be determined by their sex.
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: I've been called misogynists for saying that. It's been called
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: a misogynists for saying that fathers are as important to
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: their children as mothers are. If you don't hate men,
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: according to feminists, you hate women if you don't think
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: it's yeah, if you don't think men's interests in men's
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: civil rights should be subjugated to women's interests, you hate
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: women if you're you know, according to feminists, But yeah,
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: misogyny is harmful to men. In a collection of global data,
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Equimundo found that men with restrictive gender attitudes are more
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: likely to engage in harmful behaviors like risk taking and
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: substance abuse. They are also more prone to depression and
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts. This is an interesting one, right, So men
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: with restrictive gender attitudes. They didn't really describe what those
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: restrictive gender attitudes are, right. Are they restrictive and gender
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: attitudes about what it means to be a man or
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: what it means to be a woman or both? Are
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: they engaging in substance abuse to escape the knowledge that
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: if their wife pours boiling water on them when they sleep,
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: she's unlikely to face any consequences, but if they call police,
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: they might get arrested. Because that's a fact, it's not
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: an attitude. Are they depressed because they know that if
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: their wife leaves them, even if she is at fault
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: for the divorce, even if she cheats, she is likely
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: to have custody the children, and they are likely to
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: live the rest of their lives in poverty. Are they
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: depressed because they know that if they want to get
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: a date, they had to be six feet tall, but
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: they're only five foot seven. Are they suicidal because not
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: just the first, not just the tenth, not just the twentieth,
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: but the hundredths women they approached told them to go
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: to hell. These women don't consider that. These women don't
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: consider what it's what a man's experience might be. They
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: just tack it up to misogyny. Gender stereotypes about men
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: in the manisphere act as a cycle. If boys and
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: men aren't encouraged to speak openly about their emotions and issues,
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: they may gravitate toward these online communities as a place
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: to get advice on topics like relationship struggles, fatherhood, anxiety,
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: and sexual health. Let's break that down for a minute.
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: Let's break that down for a minute. All right. If
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: boys and men aren't encouraged to speak openly about their
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: emotions or issues, now, who's not encouraging them to do that?
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: These people are delusional. Let's go back up here. At
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: men's rights activists MRAs often take and academic tone to
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: claim that feminism and men's rights to vote, to educate,
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: to leadership positions have disadvantage men. MRA preachers suggest society
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: as guynescentric that is dominated by feminine interests. Right. Men
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: who talk about fathers being kicked out of their families.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: Men who talk about due process rights in criminal court
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: when a man is accused of a crime he didn't commit.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: Men who talk about the difficulties men have in the
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: job market because of affirmative action for women. Men who
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: talk about boys being left behind in education and who
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: recognize that it is a bad thing for inequality in
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: the education system to flip instead of being corrected to
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: fifty to fifty get condemned for talking about these things? Right,
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: Men wouldn't go to these communities where they're allowed to
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: talk if we let them talk. But they can't talk
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: about these things because that's misogynistic. Like are you sure, ladies?
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: Are you sure you want men to talk openly about
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: their emotions and issues? What are you gonna do when
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: they start talking about things you don't want to hear.
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: What are you gonna do when they say, you know what,
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: we don't want to be your ATMs anymore? What are
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: you going to do when they say it's also rape?
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: When you do it, I'll make it illegal.
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: You are not allowed to acknowledge these things, that they happen,
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: that they exist now, No, but.
- 1:24:18Speaker 5: You got a license for that rape accusation, you know.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: Men. A petitioned in the UK over and over and
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: over again for the law to be changed so that
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: the label rapist can be applied to any person who
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: forces another person into reproductive sex, potentially reproductive sex, just
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: even just coitus. Right, doesn't matter male or female, whether
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: you're forced to penetrate or forcibly penetrated, call it that,
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: call it rape. But UK loss that rape can only
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: be perpetrated with a penis. If it's if the perpetrator
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: does not have a penis, it's other sexual assault. And
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: while the sentence in prison can be the same length,
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: the stigma for the perpetrator is not the same. Right
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: somebody committed of convicted of sexual assault might have done
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: anything from groping to fall on rape, but you won't
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: know if it's a woman because they're all categorized under
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: the term sexual assault. Why on earth would women want
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: to minimize criminal behavior like that?
- 1:25:56Speaker 5: And then they turn around and tell you that ninety
- 1:25:59Speaker 5: nine percent of rapes are by men, Well, what the
- 1:26:04Speaker 5: fuck is happening with the other one percent? Given that
- 1:26:10Speaker 5: you're using statistics that rely on the idea that only
- 1:26:13Speaker 5: men can rape, that it is physically impossible for women
- 1:26:18Speaker 5: to be charged with the crime of rape, Surely it's
- 1:26:22Speaker 5: one hundred percent, Like if that's how you're gonna set
- 1:26:27Speaker 5: everything up, and surely one hundred percent of men are rapists,
- 1:26:34Speaker 5: some of you should be looking at the idea that
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: the statistic only looks like that because because you literally
- 1:26:43Speaker 5: defined rape as something that could only be committed by
- 1:26:47Speaker 5: biological men. So where are you even getting that one
- 1:26:53Speaker 5: percent of women who have managed to legally rape someone? Sorry,
- 1:27:01Speaker 5: we're never going to get monetized. It doesn't matter. Suicide, suicide,
- 1:27:05Speaker 5: hit the hitler, the Yeah, no, the I think I've
- 1:27:13Speaker 5: made my point already. Yeah, like if you if you,
- 1:27:17Speaker 5: if you're just nineteen eighty four things out of the language,
- 1:27:22Speaker 5: then obviously you're going to get a legal blind spot.
- 1:27:26Speaker 5: Like if you just decide that things are what we
- 1:27:30Speaker 5: say they are, then which is going to happen? And
- 1:27:35Speaker 5: the same thing has happened with the with wave five
- 1:27:39Speaker 5: of feminism. Yeah, things are what they say we are.
- 1:27:43Speaker 5: But a man is a woman if we say it is,
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: a woman as a man if we say it is, Yeah,
- 1:27:50Speaker 5: reality is what we say it is. We've reached that point.
- 1:27:54Speaker 5: The phenomenon we call leftism has reached the point where
- 1:27:58Speaker 5: they can literally just say reality is what we say
- 1:28:01Speaker 5: it is and that's it. Yeah, no, no further examination necessary.
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: Reality is what we say it is, and we'll fucking
- 1:28:14Speaker 5: throw you in jail if you don't like it. I
- 1:28:17Speaker 5: have to go home in like three weeks. I'm not
- 1:28:20Speaker 5: looking forward to it.
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think any of us are. So we
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: need to just like detain you here, Larry, I can't
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: go back to the ut UK. He's being detained here
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: for an indefinite amount of time.
- 1:28:41Speaker 5: Ah, my name is Pod, I have h one b
- 1:28:48Speaker 5: Please give me a job.
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't think there's all that many
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: people here who who could claim that they do everything
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: that doctor Randam OrCam does. There we go, well, we
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: definitely need there's an opening here. But yeah, it's bizarre.
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: Feminists will say, oh, Minny, do open up more, Minni
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: to cry more, Mindy to talk more, and then as
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: soon as men talk about the problems that are actually
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: affecting them. Right, I'm suicidal because I've lost my children.
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: I haven't had contact with my children for six months
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like I'm ever going to see
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: them again. Oh stop crying, you whiny man baby. What
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: did you do to their mother to piss her off?
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: You know not? Oh my gosh, that's terrible. Parental alienation
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: is wrong. Oh you're making that up. Parental alienation doesn't exist, right,
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: Never mind the fact that He's written them dozens of
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: letters and she's thrown them away and told him Daddy
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: doesn't want to see them, and then he's a bad
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: abandoner and they should hate him. No, that doesn't happen.
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: Not real. I only know half a dozen guys personally
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: that that has happened to, but I've met dozens more
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: online that have experienced the same thing. But it's not real.
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: Rights it's easier to say it's not real than it
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: is to hold women accountable for it. Or or they'll
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: point to the small percentage of parents that are men
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: who do it. Oh is it? Is it real when
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: they do it? I see? Okay, that goes on. Gender
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: stereotypes about men in the manisphere act as a cycle.
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: If boys and men aren't encouraged to speak openly, they
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: gravitate toward these online communities where they're encouraged to speak openly.
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: By the way, see how that works movembers survey. So
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: this is important to understand. Okay, November's coming up. Historically,
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: we have supported the November movement. I don't know about
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: the rest of Honey Badger Radio, but HBr Talk is
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: not supporting the November movement this year. I will I
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: will discuss when November comes up ways to donate directly
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: to organizations that that that support research for cancer, particularly
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: men's cancers. But I am not promoting donating to the
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: November Foundation. It was it was shaky last year. We
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: had our doubts last year. This year it's been pretty
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: pretty solid. Like if they're doing this and to the
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: degree that you and women are endorsing them, that's that's
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: enough for me. They're feminists now and the only thing
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: to do with them, and it's not just you know, ooh,
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: they got touched by the yucky women's right. They are
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: promoting the idea of toxic masculinity, and the toxic masculinity
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: is essentially a buzzword or buzz phrase that feminists use
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: two stereotype men by applying characteristics that are simply immature
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: as masculinity and generalizing them to all men. That is,
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: that is essentially the feminist toxic masculinity narrative. These behaviors
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: are genderless. Both sexes engage in them, and uh both
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: sexes grow out of them when they reach real mature adulthood,
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: and there are people among both sexes who fail to
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: do that. Feminists only condemn that when it's the individual
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: is a man. So when you see an organization using
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: the term toxic masculinity today, you know the mythopoetic Men's movement.
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: When they used that term, they were actually talking about
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: ways that men could support boys into developing masculine maturity,
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: which is a level of accountability that women probably don't understand.
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: And toxic masculinity was failure to develop that level of maturity,
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: but it was social pressures that prevent boys from developing
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: that maturity, and the idea was men supporting growth and
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: maturity in boys. So when feminists talk about it, it's
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: just condemning men, and it's just condemning boys. So here
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: they say. November's survey found that young men who actively
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: engage with masculinity influencers reported higher levels of worthlessness and nervousness,
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: were more likely to take performance enhancing supplements and work
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: out despite an injury. We're less likely to prioritize their
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: mental health and place more value on wealth and popularity
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: among their male friends. So these are all things that
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: are supposed to be bad, right, reported higher levels of
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: worthlessness and worthlessness and nervousness. When you recognize the way
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: that the world treats men. It can create a sense
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: of worthlessness when you recognize that other people don't value
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: you as much as they value the opposite sex. It's depressing.
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: Like if you're somebody who cares about the men in
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: your family and you realize that about them, that other
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: people don't value them as much as they value you,
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: that is quite depressing. When you're when you're a parent
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: of a son and you realize the rough road to
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: hoh he's going to have because of that, that's very
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: depressing and angering, and of course it makes you nervous.
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: When you're doing life without a safety net, you're going
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: to be a lot more nervous if you know somebody's
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: waiting to catch you when you fall. You know, if
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: you know somebody's waiting to catch you when you fall,
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: you have less reason to fear risk. If you know
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: that nobody's going to catch you when you fall. You
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: know that every risk you take is real, and every
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: risk you take might be the last one. But you know,
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: how dare men figure that out? How dare they? That's misogynistic,
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: toxic masculinity and awareness of your environment? How dare how
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: very dare men? Being more likely to take performance enhancing
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: supplements and work out despite an injury. Right, So, I
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: was an athlete when I was in high school. When
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: you had an injury, you didn't stop working out, You
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: changed your workout to one that was therapeutic for the injury.
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: Performance enhancing supplements can be anything from you know, vitamins
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: and minerals intended to support your performance, maybe supplements intended
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: to support your body's ability to process and assimilate proteins
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: and such, to caffeine to steroids. This doesn't really give
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: much description of which things they're talking about. They just
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: condemn it whole hog. Right again, you know, how dare
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: men try to improve their health? And how dare men
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: be stoic and tough? Why might men do that? You think?
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: I think it might have something to do with that hypergamy.
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: Men were less likely to prioritize their mental health. What
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: happens when you go to a shrink and they're you know,
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: you tell them you're experiencing profound depression because your wife
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: divorced you and the court gave her custody and now
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: she's not even letting you have visitation with your kids.
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: But the child support system is taking sixty percent of
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: your paycheck before deductions, and you're living on what's left
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: after that and taxes are taken out, and the psychiatrist says, well,
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: that's your toxic masculinity talking. Have you considered that maybe
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: you just resent your wife?
- 1:38:50Speaker 7: What?
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: Why would you? Why would you expect to get help? There?
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: There are there are places you know you can go there.
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: There are people like Tom Golden, doctor Terra Pamontier who
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: recognize men's issues. There are there's the Center for Male
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: Psychology and all of the men who work there work
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: with them. There are men's organizations that can help you
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: find treatment that isn't going to blame you for for
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: you know, experiencing things that other people did to you
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: and just discovering that you know, these things have an
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: effect on your mental health. But the recommended organizations, the
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: most widely recommended organizations from outside the movement aren't necessarily
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: going to do that. And what this is we're less
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: likely to prioritize their mental mental health is the criticism
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: that you don't subjugate yourself to the toxic masculinity narrative
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: that is dominating the mental health system. It's now a
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: feminist system. So perhaps the reason that people listening to
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: male influencers don't quote prioritize their mental health is because
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: they're not doing it like women. Maybe they're not going
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: to talk therapy. Maybe they're going to men's sheds. Maybe
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: they're talking to their friends, Maybe they're seeking ways to
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: process things themselves. And maybe they're not talking to feminist
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: approved psychiatrists because those psychiatrists and those psychologists, those therapists
- 1:40:41Speaker 1: are not helping them. And then this last one just
- 1:40:48Speaker 1: blows my mind. Men who actively engage with masculinity influencers
- 1:40:55Speaker 1: are more likely to or place more value on wealth
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: and popularity among their male friends. Then what I like,
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little lost here place more value on wealth?
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: How is that bad thing? Is there a point to that?
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: Is it?
- 1:41:21Speaker 7: Is it?
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: I don't understand what the what the issue is? There?
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: Is it a problem for for men to place some
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: value on wealth and popularity among their friends.
- 1:41:33Speaker 3: It's only a problem when they don't give that money
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: to women.
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: That's when the problem happens. Yeah, I like this is
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: this is this last one is like you know, and
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: they have they have butts, All men have butts. This
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: is really dates guys. This is butts belong to women
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: only women are allowed to sit down? What is this
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: thing with men having butts? Like? What the fuck? Place
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: value on wealth and popularity? Most people place value on
- 1:42:06Speaker 1: wealth and popularity. Yeah, and again hypergamy. Women place value
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: on what wealth and popularity? Could it possibly be that
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: maybe that might be influencing men's placement of value? Right?
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: I'm absolutely orright? You know those you know those gals
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: that like, they start dating a guy right that maybe
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: they like his income level and they like his popularity level,
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: and they've decided that he's tall enough and his abs
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: are tight enough and blah blah blah, but they don't
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: like that one friend, Like, you know, I know that
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: we said we're going to get married and everything, but dude,
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: you have got to start stop hanging out with Kevin.
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Kevin's a dipshit. I don't want Kevin in
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: the house. Don't bring him over here anymore. Right, You
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: know if I did that to my husband, he would
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: be like, Hey, you know that's not gonna happen, honey,
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: Kevin is my friend. You can you can have a
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: girls night when Kevin comes over if you don't want
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: to be around him. That's fine, right, but that there
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: would be no me telling him who he can and
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: can't hang out with. Mm hmm right. But women do that,
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: and then once they get rid of Kevin, Joe is
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: a bad guy. You gotta get rid of Joe. Yeah,
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: I saw Joe looking at my butt the other day
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: because he doesn't have one of his own. Uh shit.
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: We got a a super chat. Albatross gave us two
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: dollars and said, dude, I hate social engineering. This is
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: the thing is that's all women do you know? I'm
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: glad you quit hanging out with Kevin and Joe, But Bob,
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: holy fuck, what's the matter with that? Dude? Could you
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: like maybe just to hang over at his house instead
- 1:44:25Speaker 1: of him coming over here? Or why do you always
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: smell like smoke when you come home from Fred's house?
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: Don't go visit George. His wife is better looking than me.
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: I know you're just going over there to look at her.
- 1:44:45Speaker 7: Ye.
- 1:44:47Speaker 1: Women, Women place a lot of value on men's wealth
- 1:44:50Speaker 1: and popularity, and then they get rid of all their friends.
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: And of course, you know you can. You can continue
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: to spend all the time you want with Larry, because
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: Larry is the CEO of hoity Toity Company X, and
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: you know we should we should spend lots of time
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: with Larry and his wife just because you know, we
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: might be invited to go to their condo in Florida,
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: Uh sometime, Like, yeah, totally. But it's just men who
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: place more value on wealth and popularity among their friends.
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: This goes on to say stereotypes about women in the
- 1:45:41Speaker 1: manisphere promote myths and hierarchies that hold women back. We're
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: pretty powerful guys. Apparently we're keeping women from doing things like.
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: You could ever stop a woman from doing whatever the
- 1:46:06Speaker 3: hell she wanted?
- 1:46:07Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: Please? I guess there are no female CEOs anywhere because
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: we stopped that from happening. Right. Oh wait, no, there
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: there's been female CEOs. I think.
- 1:46:21Speaker 3: Wasn't there a.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: Female CEO at YouTube?
- 1:46:28Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: Susan wo.
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: May she rest in pepperoni?
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: Uh? You know, feminists have one that they when they
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: don't like somebody. They were saying it about Hulk Hogan.
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't get where they come up with
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: this rest in pissm. Fuck that's nasty. Yeah, yes, so yeah,
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: Stereotypes about women in the manisphere promote myths and hierarchies
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: that hold women back, and international survey in support of
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: He for She, a Youn women solidarity initiative for gender
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: equality god He for She was about men sacrificing their
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: interest to promote those of women, found that gen Z
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: audiences are the most exposed to sexist rhetoric online, which
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: doesn't actually indicate anything because gen Z women, you know,
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: they have the least issues, you know, out of all
- 1:47:46Speaker 1: the women in the history of Western culture. Like gen
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: Z women have the most legal protections of all time
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: that women have head. The only thing that they're maybe
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: starting to lose is the ability to genocide the human
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: race through baby killing before birth.
- 1:48:19Speaker 5: Well also quite a lot of them are getting raped
- 1:48:23Speaker 5: across Europe. It's becoming a little bit of a problem.
- 1:48:27Speaker 5: People are sort of and little boys and men a
- 1:48:31Speaker 5: ging raptures as well as as well as attacked and
- 1:48:35Speaker 5: what have you. But European women have finally met their
- 1:48:41Speaker 5: match with the client groups of what has developed from feminism.
- 1:48:50Speaker 5: I mean, everyone knows men oppress women everywhere and always
- 1:48:55Speaker 5: have and so we need to extract every everything that
- 1:49:01Speaker 5: men do and give it to women. And ever since
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: they figured that out, they went well, surely white men
- 1:49:11Speaker 5: are the worst of the men, because because they're the
- 1:49:16Speaker 5: men we can see, we don't know about men in
- 1:49:20Speaker 5: far away lands, and we don't care because they're not
- 1:49:22Speaker 5: our property. The men of our country are our property.
- 1:49:28Speaker 5: And and and so they put laws in place that
- 1:49:34Speaker 5: punish men for any reason, their own men for any reason,
- 1:49:39Speaker 5: and that includes flooding the country with foreign rapists, foreign
- 1:49:45Speaker 5: rapists who prefer women, especially white women, who are slags.
- 1:49:54Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I'm not going to pretend they're these
- 1:49:56Speaker 5: these things are true at the same time, folks, foreign
- 1:49:59Speaker 5: men are rapists and Western women are slacks. Yes, I
- 1:50:06Speaker 5: know they're not. Yeah, I have to hashchag, not all
- 1:50:09Speaker 5: all of this in both cases. But yes, it's true.
- 1:50:16Speaker 5: The foreign men who have been promised a life for
- 1:50:20Speaker 5: free are quite disproportionately rapists, and women who have been
- 1:50:30Speaker 5: how do I say this is delicately as like as
- 1:50:33Speaker 5: I can. Women who have been trained to be hypergamistic,
- 1:50:40Speaker 5: who have been taught that their actions should never have
- 1:50:44Speaker 5: any consequences. Yeah, they're they're going to be a bit slutty,
- 1:50:51Speaker 5: and that doesn't make it okay to rape them. And
- 1:50:55Speaker 5: it's a good thing that Western men aren't raping them,
- 1:50:58Speaker 5: no matter how slutty they get. But foreign men who
- 1:51:06Speaker 5: haven't been through this ringer, they kind of see those
- 1:51:11Speaker 5: massive sluts and they think, why would they be such
- 1:51:16Speaker 5: massive sluts if they didn't want to get nailed right
- 1:51:20Speaker 5: here and now. And so that's happening. The patriarchy of
- 1:51:26Speaker 5: feminist imaginings is being created by feminists because they hate
- 1:51:33Speaker 5: their own men so much that they're trying to replace
- 1:51:36Speaker 5: them with foreign men who actually do fit the model
- 1:51:42Speaker 5: of toxic masculinity. And it's not because of their masculinity.
- 1:51:46Speaker 5: It's because they've been left behind like so many Western
- 1:51:53Speaker 5: men have. And that's some great eight shit for always wondering.
- 1:52:00Speaker 5: I know, I know the majority of the right is
- 1:52:04Speaker 5: going to be like, no, these these men from other
- 1:52:06Speaker 5: places are just they're just monsters, They're just demons. They've
- 1:52:10Speaker 5: just never been controlled. Oh no, my friend, they have
- 1:52:15Speaker 5: been controlled. And that's the problem. They've been controlled too
- 1:52:20Speaker 5: control everyone else. And that's again I don't have time
- 1:52:26Speaker 5: to get into it, but yeah, feminists have created a
- 1:52:31Speaker 5: situation where they where they can barely leave the house
- 1:52:37Speaker 5: without worrying about rape. Despite having told us this whole time.
- 1:52:42Speaker 5: That they need to be constantly worried about rape because
- 1:52:45Speaker 5: of their own men. But now that they've replaced their
- 1:52:49Speaker 5: own men with fifty IQ desert monkeys, now they actually
- 1:52:55Speaker 5: have to be scared about rape constantly because it's actually
- 1:52:59Speaker 5: a possibility. And I don't know how to conclude this
- 1:53:06Speaker 5: other than yeah, don't put women politically in charge of
- 1:53:10Speaker 5: anything because they don't know what they want. They kind of,
- 1:53:17Speaker 5: I mean, just some extent. Men don't know where they
- 1:53:20Speaker 5: want either, but they're better at getting together and figuring
- 1:53:24Speaker 5: it out women when when you get them together, they
- 1:53:29Speaker 5: only get more chaotic. An individual woman is an intelligent
- 1:53:34Speaker 5: person potentially, but women together as a collective is a nightmare.
- 1:53:45Speaker 5: The random number generator that can't figure out what it
- 1:53:51Speaker 5: wants because it needs to be led, and it needs
- 1:53:55Speaker 5: to be led by men. I don't know, I don't know. Well, well,
- 1:54:00Speaker 5: I guess my audience is going to be okay with
- 1:54:03Speaker 5: me saying that. But yeah, no, yeah, no, that's yeah, no, somebody,
- 1:54:14Speaker 5: someone needs to lead the pack. And we've given women
- 1:54:18Speaker 5: a century at it, a millennium at it, and they
- 1:54:22Speaker 5: haven't done very well.
- 1:54:24Speaker 1: So you have you have one group of women that
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: is promoting the idea of a sexual revolution where women
- 1:54:37Speaker 1: can do whatever sexual thing they want, dress however they want,
- 1:54:41Speaker 1: act however they want, fuck whoever they want, and so on,
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: consequence free, despite the existence of things like STIs and criminals.
- 1:54:50Speaker 1: And you have sort of the other half of women
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: promoting the idea that, you know, women, men who wear
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: scanty clothing are dressing for the male gaze, and they're
- 1:55:08Speaker 1: facilitating rape by giving men what they want, and blah
- 1:55:12Speaker 1: blah blah. The the basically, the idea that a woman
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: who dresses a certain way is quote unquote asking for
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: it comes from women promoting the idea that how a
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: woman dresses serves men and that is therefore bad, not
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: that it shows a lack of respect for herself and
- 1:55:36Speaker 1: that is therefore an issue, Not that it isn't functional,
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: not that it isn't you know, good for being able
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: to work and so on, but because men might see
- 1:55:49Speaker 1: body parts and enjoy that, and that that women are
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: bitter about that, right, And then you have the other
- 1:55:56Speaker 1: half of women going, don't wear anything, just you know,
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: throw throw over your boobs and your cunt and you're
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: fine and nobody should notice because it's totally normal. And
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: when you have a clash of cultures where the women's
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: sensibilities have dictated that other women have to be covered
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: from head to toe and they've blamed it on men
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: and male sexuality, and they've told men over and over again,
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: raised them from childhood to believe that women have to
- 1:56:28Speaker 1: dress like that because they can't control themselves. And you
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: put them in a culture where half of the women
- 1:56:32Speaker 1: are saying, you know, go outside with just just a
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: band aid over your private areas and nobody's allowed to notice.
- 1:56:40Speaker 6: You are going to have.
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: Some conflict and crimes will be committed. And if you
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: also in that society are not allowed to notice crime
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: when certain people do it and only allow to notice
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: it when other people do it, then you have a
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: pattern of crime that people are getting away with and
- 1:57:04Speaker 1: it eventually will come to a head. There will be
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: problems from this and everybody involved is going to suffer,
- 1:57:12Speaker 1: and a lot of it traces back to female sensibilities
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: and female competition for attention from males and for resources
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: from males, basically female competition for control over the male libido.
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: But you can't say that that's misogyny. So yeah, Meanwhile,
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: it says Younger men today are more likely to hold
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: regressive ideas about gender roles than older men, representing a
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: backlash that could reverse hard one gains in gender equality.
- 1:58:01Speaker 1: Oh no, women might not be able to have it
- 1:58:05Speaker 1: all anymore. You know. Actually it hasn't been that great
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: having it all for a lot of women, right because
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: when you have it all and you have to do
- 1:58:17Speaker 1: it all in order to maintain it all, then you
- 1:58:21Speaker 1: develop all the same health problems that men have, and
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: you develop them sooner and worse because you're trying to
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: do your job, and is it's not healthy. Feel like
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: if men decided they were going to come home from
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: you know, eight to twelve hour work shifts and then
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: also do all of the housework and raise the kids
- 1:58:52Speaker 1: and try to change the way that they regular their
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: emotions to mirror the way that women regulate theirs or
- 1:59:05Speaker 1: fail to regulate theirs, and take a lot of energy.
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: It takes a lot of energy to be emotionally disregulated.
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: They would get sick too. You would see male suicide
- 1:59:19Speaker 1: double or triple or worse. What the data says about
- 1:59:27Speaker 1: manusphere and online misogyny. We're going to have to figure
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: that out next week. We'll look into that next week,
- 1:59:35Speaker 1: but it looks like they're going to continue with the
- 1:59:40Speaker 1: same storyline, condemning us for talking about these issues in
- 1:59:46Speaker 1: very vague terms without any evidence to back them up.
- 1:59:52Speaker 1: So next week we will start at what the data
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: says about the manisphere an online misogyny, and then at
- 2:00:02Speaker 1: the end of it it says what comes next and
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: it links to how to counter the Manispheer's toxic influence.
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: So if we finished that next week, then we will
- 2:00:11Speaker 1: get into this article. I just love their image here.
- 2:00:17Speaker 1: How do you counter the manispheer's toxic influence? The unsubscribed
- 2:00:21Speaker 1: button like these people were ever subscribed to us? So
- 2:00:30Speaker 1: with that, I don't think we have any Well, we
- 2:00:33Speaker 1: have this super chow I think might have been read.
- 2:00:37Speaker 1: It was from yesterday at eleven twenty two pm, but
- 2:00:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it anyway because it doesn't say done afterwards,
- 2:00:43Speaker 1: so it might not be. And this is interesting anyway,
- 2:00:46Speaker 1: but it's Richard Bierre gave us five dollars yesterday and said, Brian,
- 2:00:51Speaker 1: it's the notion that you were mugged ten years ago
- 2:00:53Speaker 1: but didn't realize it at the time, and only after
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: ten years of reflection and analysis, do you now realize
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: that you have and mugged and therefore justice demands that
- 2:01:02Speaker 1: action be taken against the perpetrators. So obviously that's about
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: accusing somebody. You know, the many women who have accused
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: somebody twenty years later that that they say raped them
- 2:01:18Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and which that happens all too frequently,
- 2:01:23Speaker 1: and one of the biggest problems with it is when
- 2:01:27Speaker 1: a violent crime happens, the perpetrator often leaves DNA behind
- 2:01:35Speaker 1: on the victim, even even if there's not a rape,
- 2:01:39Speaker 1: if it's a mugging, you are engaging in violence against
- 2:01:45Speaker 1: another individual. Unless you're holding someone up at gunpoint and
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: not touching them. You know, there's there's the possibility that
- 2:01:54Speaker 1: they've got your skin under their fingernails, there's the possibility
- 2:01:57Speaker 1: that you left hair on them, and those can be
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: sources of DNA as well, And so the individual needs
- 2:02:07Speaker 1: to go to the police right away, the hospital and
- 2:02:11Speaker 1: get taken care of. You get a kit done if
- 2:02:17Speaker 1: it's a rape or rape kit, but basically get that
- 2:02:21Speaker 1: evidence collected so that you know it'll be easier to
- 2:02:26Speaker 1: prove who the perpetrator was. And if you don't do
- 2:02:31Speaker 1: that you undermine the case against the perpetrator, right if
- 2:02:37Speaker 1: we set things up so that twenty years down the line,
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: when that evidence is not available, the perpetrator now has
- 2:02:46Speaker 1: to defend himself, or an accused man has to defend himself.
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: And let's say, let's say I was really dumb and
- 2:02:55Speaker 1: I decided to go into that part of the Dayton
- 2:02:58Speaker 1: metro area that you don't go into if you're white.
- 2:03:02Speaker 1: And I went down a dark alley and it's cold
- 2:03:08Speaker 1: weather out, like the attackers that muged me have ski
- 2:03:13Speaker 1: masks or whatever to keep themselves warm, so I can't
- 2:03:16Speaker 1: see their faces, and I, you know, don't say anything
- 2:03:22Speaker 1: for ten years, and then I come back later and
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: I think, by reputation, I know who did it, but
- 2:03:29Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to describe them. And my
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: clothes have been washed dozens and you know, hundreds of
- 2:03:37Speaker 1: times since then, or maybe they're worn out and thrown
- 2:03:40Speaker 1: in the trash. At that point, I don't have any
- 2:03:45Speaker 1: physical evidence, and they're now they're having to defend against this.
- 2:03:48Speaker 1: What if I accuse the wrong guys, and what if,
- 2:03:52Speaker 1: you know, during the mugging, when they wrestled my wallet
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: out of my pocket. You know, one of them left
- 2:04:01Speaker 1: behind hair. If I went to the cops right away
- 2:04:05Speaker 1: and then I accused the wrong guys, that hair would
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: also prove well, it wasn't that guy, it was somebody else, right,
- 2:04:16Speaker 1: But now ten years later that we don't have that hair,
- 2:04:20Speaker 1: that guy cannot insist on a DNA test to prove
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: that it wasn't him. And maybe ten years ago and
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: the night that had happened, he was across town doing
- 2:04:34Speaker 1: something that he got a receipt for and that he
- 2:04:37Speaker 1: was on camera for. But you know, since there was
- 2:04:40Speaker 1: no accusation made that night, that business dumped that camera
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: footage thirty days later because there was no legal request
- 2:04:48Speaker 1: for it and he didn't keep that receipt. Ten years later,
- 2:04:54Speaker 1: he can't prove where he was. He might not even
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: remember what he was doing that night. That's why it
- 2:05:02Speaker 1: is a due process violation to wait ten years to
- 2:05:06Speaker 1: accuse somebody, because if you get the wrong person or
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: the crime didn't happen, that individual has a lot less
- 2:05:17Speaker 1: opportunity to use documentation that might have been available at
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: the time of his whereabouts and his activities to go
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: into court and say, look, I could not have been
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: in that section of town doing that thing at that time,
- 2:05:33Speaker 1: because I was in this other area at that time
- 2:05:36Speaker 1: doing this other thing. And here's the proof. You can't
- 2:05:41Speaker 1: say that if you don't have the proof. You can't
- 2:05:43Speaker 1: say that if it's been ten years and the video's
- 2:05:45Speaker 1: gone and the receipt's gone and you don't remember what
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: day you went where. So that's another thing, like back
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: to that in fault. All women have that power, and
- 2:05:58Speaker 1: it's all men could do that and be taken seriously,
- 2:06:02Speaker 1: can make that allegation ten years later and be taken seriously,
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: and all women have I guess benefited. I don't like
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: the word benefit because I don't think it's a good
- 2:06:15Speaker 1: thing that this has happened. But all women have the
- 2:06:19Speaker 1: power to exploit changes in law and policy that allow
- 2:06:24Speaker 1: longer and longer times to pass between the crime and
- 2:06:27Speaker 1: the allegation. So yeah, all women are like that. Hey,
- 2:06:33Speaker 1: well even if they wouldn't take advantage of it, all
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: women can. Well that Thanks everybody for listening. Meredith. I'm
- 2:06:46Speaker 1: sorry You're You're super Chow has not come through, so
- 2:06:54Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's gonna hit like during the after show, which,
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: like I don't have any control over that, but in
- 2:07:04Speaker 1: any case, I know it probably says honey for the Badgers,
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: and which HBr Talk it is, and I will thank
- 2:07:10Speaker 1: you for the super chow and the honey for the Badgers.
- 2:07:14Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening, Thanks to my two co hosts
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: for going through this nasty ass material with me, and
- 2:07:21Speaker 1: thanks to Brian very much for facilitating this and everybody
- 2:07:25Speaker 1: else that works in the background and make HBr Talk happening.
- 2:07:27Speaker 1: Good night all, Good night, y'all.