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The cost of treating symptoms instead of people · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Informed dissent, the intersection of healthcare and politics
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  with Dr.
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  Jeff Barkey, board certified primary care physician.
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  And Dr.
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  Mark McDonald, board certified child adolescent and adult
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  psychiatrist.
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  Welcome to Informed Descent.
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  Great to be with you.
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  This is Dr.
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  Jeff Barkey, America's real doctor.
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  I've got some exciting updates for you.
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  I am recording solo.
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  I know you've been used to hearing my
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  co-host, Dr.
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  Mark McDonald.
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  However, I am now on my own, and
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  I'm so proud of the work that Mark
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  and I have done.
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  Mark is heading in a bit of a
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  different direction.
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  He's doing a lot of traveling, a lot
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  of telehealth work, forensic work that has always
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  been his passion.
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  And as a result, oh, I will bring
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  him in as a guest.
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  But I am now hosting this show on
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  my own.
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  Boy, I hope this will be fun for
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  you.
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  I know it's going to be really fun
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  for me.
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  So a few things I want to talk
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  to you about.
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  First of all, I'm changing the strategy first
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  of all to instead of being the you
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  know, it's still informed dissent.
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  So I'm excited about that.
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  We created this name.
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  Uh, this was actually originally Mark's idea, and
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  I love the name informed descent.
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  It represents a lot of things that I
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  stand for.
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  Uh, but the intersection of health care and
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  politics, I'm updating to be the intersection of
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  faith, family, freedom, and health.
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  Faith, family, freedom, and health.
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  Those are going to be the topics that
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  I'm going to focus in on.
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  Uh, I'm not going to really talk too
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  much about politics, although, of course, commonly what
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  we talk about in health intersects with politics.
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  So I've got a whole range of topics.
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  I've got some exciting guests that I'm going
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  to bring onto the show.
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  You'll, of course, hear from me.
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  You will occasionally hear from Mark.
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  Uh, and we will just have so much
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  fun uh doing what we do.
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  So here we go.
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  This is literally my first show uh being
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  a solo host of informed dissent.
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  Um, we are, of course, on the America
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  Out Loud Network, and I'm proud to be
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  part of that.
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  As you may know, wherever you're listening to
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  it, you may be listening to it on
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  iHeartRadio.
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  We broadcast on Saturdays and Sundays on iHeartRadio.
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  And then on Mondays, this recording is released
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  as a podcast.
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  Of course, as a podcast, you can listen
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  to it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, uh, directly
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  through the America Out Loud uh website.
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  So you get to choose.
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  I love listening to podcasts.
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  Um, often on just my iPhone has a
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  podcast app that comes with it.
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  And that's often where I listen to the
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  podcasts.
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  And so I'm super excited to be um
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  doing really what I love doing, and that
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  is talking to you about health and faith
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  and family, all the things that are really
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  important to me.
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  You can contact me, by the way.
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  can scroll down and you can comment on
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  media.
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  I broadcast almost daily on social media.
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  I have what I call a morning message,
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  and I've been doing this now for a
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  couple years, Monday through Friday, sometimes on Saturday.
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  Morning message on Instagram.
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  My Instagram handle is RX4 Liberty, RX4.
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  The four is spelled F O R R
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  X4 Liberty.
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  I'm also on X.
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  I'm on what else am I on?
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  I'm on Facebook.
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  I have a uh social media team that
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  helps me because I'm not smart enough to
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  do all this myself.
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  And my goal here really is to reach
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  as many people as I can to share
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  with you holistic health ideas, to share with
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  you ideas that I have about faith, family,
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  freedom, and health.
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  Uh, and to help you be better at
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  taking care of yourself.
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  I want you to be super healthy.
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  And I've come around to this idea, and
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  you may have seen the evolution of me
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  and what I stand for and what I'm
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  doing in my life, but I've come around
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  to this idea that I want people to
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  be healthy, not for the sake of health.
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  Oh, yes, I want you to be healthy.
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  It's no fun being unhealthy, it's no fun
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  being sick.
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  It's a misery being in the hospital.
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  And especially as we get older in life.
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  Uh, my mom is 91.
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  Uh, I sometimes feature her on my social
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  media, put pictures of her up.
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  I'm so blessed and lucky for her to
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  be in my life and to be healthy.
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  She plays tennis a couple days a week.
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  I see and travel with her often.
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  I'm doing that as much as I can,
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  but I want you to be healthy so
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  ultimately you can serve whatever God's purpose is
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  in your life.
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  That's really my mission here as I as
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  I move through my own life, uh, my
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  own evolution and my walk in faith, uh,
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  which has been relatively new for me.
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  I thought I'd share a little bit too
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  about how I got started with this podcasting
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  and being on social media, of being on
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  Instagram, Facebook, and the like.
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  And this really started even right around the
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  time of COVID.
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  Boy, who doesn't remember COVID?
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  It's, you know, what we're in 2026.
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  COVID was what, like 2020, beginning of 2020.
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  And um this started really, I was kind
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  of a contrarian during COVID, and I spoke
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  out a lot.
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  I attended rallies.
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  Um, and I started doing a Facebook live.
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  I'd never really done these kind of things
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  before.
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  I'd set my computer up on my kitchen
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  counter.
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  I'd go to Facebook, I'd hit the Facebook
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  Live button, and I would time it.
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  Remember when Tucker Carlson was on Fox News,
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  I think he was on at five o'clock.
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  So I had a time it when Tucker
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  would get off Fox News, I'd hit Facebook
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  Live.
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  I'd just start talking about the latest COVID
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  news, the body counts, the shenanigans of Anthony
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  Fauci, all the things that were going on.
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  And then I started bringing guests on to
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  Facebook Live.
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  And I would interview people, doctors and politicians
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  and various folks in the health freedom movement.
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  Of movement.
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  It was kind of fun.
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  It was kind of fun.
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  Then around April of I think it was
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  Then around April of I think it was
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  2020.
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  2020.
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  I get confused sometimes with dates, but I
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  I get confused sometimes with dates, but I
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  think it was around April 2020.
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  think it was around April 2020.
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  I was invited to go to Riverside to
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  I was invited to go to Riverside to
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  speak at a rally.
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  speak at a rally.
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  There was a rally in Riverside because the
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  There's a rally in Riverside because the county
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  board of supervisors in Riverside County was about
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  county board of supervisors in Riverside County was
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  to hold a meeting to make a decision
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  about to hold a meeting to make a
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  whether or not they should open up the
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  decision whether or not they should open up
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  county.
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  the county.
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  Remember, everything was closed.
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  So I was invited, and my initial reaction
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  to the person who invited me, her name
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  was Desiree, was to say, no, I didn't
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  want to go to Riverside.
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  I live in coastal Orange County.
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  And normally to hop on the 55 freeway
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  and ultimately the 91 and get to Riverside.
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  If and you know what I mean if
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  you're from Southern California, it's misery.
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  It normally would take, I don't know, during
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  rush hour in the morning.
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  It takes like an hour and a half
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  to get out to Riverside.
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  And it was a work day, and I
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  didn't want to go.
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  Well, then I remembered Desiree, the organizer of
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  this rally, if you will.
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  She was often in Orange County, supporting many
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  of the things that I did.
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  And so I decided to go ahead out
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  to Riverside to speak at this rally before
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  the Riverside County Board of Supervisors was meeting.
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  And by the way, at this rally, I
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  don't remember all the speakers, but one of
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  them was Pastor Tim Thompson, and he's from
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  Murietta, California.
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  He runs a church called uh, is it?
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  I think it's 412, 411, 412, church 412.
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  Anyways, I got to meet Tim for the
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  first time.
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  He has since become a friend.
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  I've gone out to his church.
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  I've spoken many times.
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  I've supported many of his causes, et cetera.
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  So, anyways, I'm at this rally out in
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  Riverside, a mass to speak.
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  Uh, God has given me a gift and
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  a blessing uh to be comfortable speaking in
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  public.
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  I know this is a common fear uh
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  amongst many people.
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  Uh, this is I am nothing special to
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  be able to do this.
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  It literally is not me.
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  It's a it's I I believe this, honestly.
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  I believe it's a gift from God uh
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  that I'm able to do this without fear
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  or concern uh of doing this.
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  So I got up there and spoke.
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  And I didn't think I said anything particularly
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  remarkable.
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  Um, and when I concluded, I spoke for
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  about six minutes, maybe seven.
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  Um, I wanted to send the speech to
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  my kids.
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  Uh, my daughter lives in Wisconsin.
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  My son at the time was working in
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  politics.
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  He lived in DC.
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  And I don't know about you guys if
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  you have kids, but we normally would communicate
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  by text message and so forth.
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  And I tried to send the short clip
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  of my video through text message, and I
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  got a message, uh, video too long.
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  I tried to email them the video, video
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  too long.
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  Then Desiree came up and said, Why don't
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  you just post it on Facebook and they
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  can watch it there?
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  Well, I guess Facebook has different bandwidths, and
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  the video doesn't have to be particularly high
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  quality.
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  So I hit the Facebook post thing with
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  my video, and within a couple minutes, it
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  was posted on Facebook.
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  Well, it didn't take long before I was
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  literally getting communications from around the world.
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  Physicians were communicating with me.
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  Uh, citizens were communicating with me, politicians were
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  communicating with me.
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  And I didn't really understand because I didn't
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  think what I said was too remarkable.
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  And then I went back and I listened
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  to it.
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  I always carry a copy of the Constitution.
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  You know, one of those skinny little books
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  that has the declaration of independence and the
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  constitution in it.
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  I always carry one of those around in
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  my coat pocket.
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  I was in Scrubs and I had a
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  white coat on.
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  You know, I had to look like a
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  doctor when I got up there and spoke.
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  And I pulled out this Hillsdale College uh
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  Constitution, and I said, and this wasn't my
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  line, I can't remember where I heard it.
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  It may have been like from Rush Limbaugh
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  or somebody like that.
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  I don't actually recall, but I said, this
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  document was never designed to restrict we the
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  people.
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  This document was designed to restrict the government.
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  I guess that really resonated with a lot
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  of people.
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  Um, so suddenly, this guy who just randomly
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  speaks out, was doing Facebook lives, now was
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  being communicated with with thousands and thousands of
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  people around the world and around the country,
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  of course.
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  Um, shortly after that, I was introduced by
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  a mutual friend uh to somebody who you
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  all know.
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  You certainly know her name if you don't
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  know her personally, and that was Dr.
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  Simone Gold.
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  I spent a lot of time on the
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  phone and meeting with Simone, and she had
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  this idea of creating an organization of physicians
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  called America's uh frontline doctors.
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  So she and I decided it was her,
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  it was her initiative, but I was I
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  was literally one of the first founding doctors
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  of this organization, America's frontline doctors.
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  There was a whole group of us, and
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  Simone had this idea that we would hold
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  like a medical conference in Washington, DC, and
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  then a press conference.
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  The medical conference was each of the doctors,
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  I think there was maybe eight or 10
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  of us that went, would speak for 15,
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  20 minutes to the other doctors and the
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  other audience that would be there about whatever
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  area of specialty with that we had, and
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  it was all related to COVID.
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  So I had founded a charter school in
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  the city of Orange here in Southern California
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  called Orange County Classical Academy.
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  I was also uh previously on the school
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  board, Los Alamitos Unified School District, an elected
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  school board member for about 12 years.
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  So my area of speaking was, and Simone
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  asked me to do this, talk about COVID
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  and children and schools.
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  So I did.
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  So following the kind of medical conference presentation,
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  lasted about a half a day.
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  She organized us to go to the steps
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  of the Supreme Court to hold a formal
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  press conference.
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  So we had microphones and cameras, but this
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  press conference was different than most in that
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  we didn't invite invite traditional press there because
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  we knew they hated us.
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  We invited alternative press, social media influencers, Breitbart
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  was there.
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  Um, and we broadcast live on all the
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  social media outlets, Twitter at the time, it
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  wasn't X yet, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and so
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  forth.
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  And so each of us spoke for each
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  doctor, same doctors that gave this uh medical
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  conference, if you will, spoke for about two
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  minutes.
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  So Simone said limit it to two minutes.
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  Um, summarize what you talked in the medical
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  conference, and I did, and everybody else did.
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  Mark, Mark McDonald, uh, you probably remember Stella
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  Emmanuel.
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  Uh, she's from Cameroon.
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  Um, Brian Tyson, physician out of El Centro,
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  California, that's kind of inland of San Diego.
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  Uh, I'm trying to remember who else was
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  there.
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  I I can't remember.
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  I can't remember, I could look it up.
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  I could look it up.
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  But, anyways, so we spoke, and this was
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  But anyways, so we spoke, and this was
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  really the start of the uh medical banning
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  really the start of the uh medical banning
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  movement, the censor, uh the censoring of medical
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  movement, the censor us the censoring of medical
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  physicians because within a few minutes, this press
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  physicians because within a few minutes, this press
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  conference was friggin' going viral.
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  conference was friggin' going viral.
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  Millions of people were watching it.
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  Millions of people were watching it.
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  And then all of a sudden, we started
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  And then all of a sudden, we started
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  being censored.
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  being censored.
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  Meta, Meta, of course, is the organization that
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  Meta, Meta, of course, is the organization that
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  owns Facebook and Instagram.
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  owns Facebook and Instagram, Twitter at the time.
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  What's what was that guy's name that owned
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  Twitter?
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  Remember, he testified before Elon Musk bought Twitter,
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  testified before Congress about censoring and so forth.
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  Can't remember his name, really long hair, whatever.
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  So we started getting banned.
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  YouTube shut us down, Twitter shut us down,
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  Meta shut us down, et cetera.
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  This was the beginning of the cancel culture,
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  especially as it related to uh COVID.
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  So needless to say, all of a sudden,
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  all these doctors that were now America's frontline
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  doctors uh became known and started being censored.
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  And uh, you know, I was criticized.
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  The medical board was called.
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  I was threatened to be shut down and
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  so forth.
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  And uh, you know, I listen, I didn't
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  want to be some spokesperson on behalf of
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  medical freedom.
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  I never wanted to be some sort of
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  social media influencer.
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  It was not my intent.
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  I never wanted to be some sort of
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  celebrity physician.
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  No, no, no.
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  I was simply standing up for what I
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  believed was right, and most importantly, speaking out
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  for what I believe was wrong.
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  And what the government did during COVID was
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  absolutely wrong.
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  Never before have we seen this in our
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  country, where mom and pop organizations were forced
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  to be closed by the government, where churches
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  were forced to be closed by the government.
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  This has never happened before.
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  Um, where you know, big box stores like
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  Costco's and and uh Walmart and so forth
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  were allowed to be open, where liquor stores
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  were allowed to be open.
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  Uh, maybe that was a good idea.
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  I don't know.
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  Uh, where marijuana dispensaries were allowed to be
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  open.
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  And in healthcare, you have to remember the
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  healthcare system was shut down, meaning that you
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  could not get elective or routine things, couldn't
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  go get your mammogram.
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  You know, maybe that was a good thing.
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  We can talk more about that about mammograms
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  and should you get mammograms and what about
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  the radiation and so forth and all and
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  all are there alternatives?
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  But nonetheless, you couldn't go in and get
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  an echocardiogram if you had congestive heart failure.
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  You couldn't go get elective surgery if you
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  were planning to do that.
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  Uh, you couldn't go into your doctor's office
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  and get routine care.
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  This was really weird.
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  So, for the first time, we told sick
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  people not to go to the hospital.
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  We told sick people not to go to
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  the doctor.
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  We told them the shelter in place and
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  stay away.
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  Don't go to the hospital unless you were
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  so sick that you were about to die.
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  Then go to the hospital and we would
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  expedite that death by giving you remdesivir.
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  So that was really how I started this
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  adventure of becoming ultimately here I am, a
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  podcaster now on the America Out Loud Network.
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  Very, very proud to be affiliated with that.
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  And by the way, you know, some people
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  How arrogant of you to call yourself America's
• 17:48
  real doctor, believe me.
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  I'm not America's real doctor in the sense
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  want to hearken back to a time a
• 18:01
  generation ago where physicians were well respected.
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  They were trusted members of the community, where
• 18:06
  they were looked at as being wise people
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  to give advice, not just on health care,
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  Things have changed so much.
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  Where we would routinely make house calls, where
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  we looked out for the best interest of
• 18:20
  the patient, not the best interest of the
• 18:23
  healthcare organization that was paying our check, where
• 18:25
  the vast majority of physicians were in private
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  practice.
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  Nowadays, the vast majority of physicians work for
• 18:33
  big healthcare organizations where there is a clear
• 18:36
  conflict of interest, meaning you go to a
• 18:39
  doctor, you're not paying them.
• 18:42
  The healthcare organization is paying them.
• 18:45
  So they're going to refer accordingly, they're going
• 18:47
  to prescribe accordingly.
• 18:49
  They're going to treat you as if you
• 18:51
  are nothing more than a commodity, not a
• 18:54
  precious consumer where they should treat you with
• 18:57
  great respect.
• 19:00
  We need to get back to that.
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  That's what I mean by America's real doctor.
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  I want people to look back to what
• 19:09
  medicine used to be a generation ago, where
• 19:12
  we really cared for patients, where we made
• 19:15
  every effort to get it root cause of
• 19:18
  disease, not just take out a prescription pad
• 19:21
  and write them some pharma product.
• 19:24
  That's what I want to get back to.
• 19:26
  That's what I mean when I say words
• 19:28
  like, I'm Dr.
• 19:30
  Jeff Barkey, America's real doctor.
• 19:33
  I want people to listen to what I'm
• 19:34
  doing.
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  You don't have to agree with everything.
• 19:37
  I'm not right on everything.
• 19:39
  And I'm happy to be uh educated about
• 19:42
  things that I don't know about.
• 19:44
  I'm always wanting to learn.
• 19:46
  I'm always learning.
• 19:48
  I'm watching uh health influencers on social media.
• 19:52
  I'm going to conferences, I'm reading.
• 19:55
  I'm learning about functional health and functional lab
• 19:56
  tests.
• 19:59
  I'm trying to do everything I can to
• 20:01
  upgrade my knowledge, literally, upgrade my knowledge to
• 20:04
  everything that was wrong about my medical school
• 20:07
  training.
• 20:10
  I was taught so many things that just
• 20:13
  aren't so in medical school, like vaccines are
• 20:17
  safe and effective, and there's no relationship between
• 20:20
  vaccines and chronic illness or Alzheimer's, not Alzheimer's,
• 20:23
  or autism, maybe Alzheimer's too.
• 20:27
  That's what I was taught.
• 20:28
  I was taught that cholesterol causes cardiovascular disease,
• 20:32
  and eating saturated fat raises cholesterol.
• 20:35
  We should not eat saturated fat.
• 20:37
  And people with high cholesterol should be put
• 20:39
  on drugs to lower their cholesterol.
• 20:42
  That's standard traditional pharma-based care now in most
• 20:44
  medical schools.
• 20:48
  Most medical schools have such incredible pharma influence.
• 20:53
  Medical school buildings are named after big pharma
• 20:54
  companies.
• 20:56
  Pharma sponsors medical schools to do research.
• 21:00
  There isn't a day that goes by where
• 21:00
  There isn't a day that goes by where
• 21:02
  a medical school isn't having some pharma lunch
• 21:02
  a medical school isn't having some pharma lunch
• 21:05
  to give the medical students and residents and
• 21:05
  to give the medical students and residents and
• 21:07
  fellows free food.
• 21:07
  fellows free food.
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  And all they ask for is your attention
• 21:09
  And all they asked for is your attention
• 21:11
  for a half hour while they feed you
• 21:12
  for a half hour while they feed you
• 21:14
  to feed you pharma propaganda.
• 21:14
  to feed you pharma propaganda.
• 21:16
  By the way, I no longer allowed pharma
• 21:16
  By the way, I no longer allowed pharma
• 21:18
  reps into my office.
• 21:18
  reps into my office.
• 21:21
  Oh, yes, there'll be an occasional home health
• 21:21
  Oh, yes, there'll be an occasional home health
• 21:22
  care uh person.
• 21:22
  care uh person.
• 21:24
  There'll be pharmacies that will all let to
• 21:24
  There'll be pharmacies that will all let to
• 21:26
  come in.
• 21:26
  come in.
• 21:29
  There
• 21:29
  There will be like durable medical equipment companies.
• 21:33
  We have home health that will come in
• 21:34
  and visit.
• 21:36
  Testing ColaGuard folks have come in to share
• 21:38
  with what they've got going.
• 21:41
  There's newer cancer detection companies that are out
• 21:43
  there.
• 21:45
  Maybe you've heard of them, the gallery test.
• 21:48
  Uh, there's a local outfit that does uh
• 21:50
  full body MRI called pre-nuvo.
• 21:53
  They came in to educate us.
• 21:55
  So those kind of things are fair game.
• 21:57
  But the pharmaceutical companies that want me to
• 22:00
  prescribe their drugs, no, they're not welcome here.
• 22:03
  Occasionally if they slip through the cracks, uh,
• 22:04
  I usually won't even go in and talk
• 22:06
  to them.
• 22:08
  I won't see them.
• 22:09
  And if I do, uh, they probably are
• 22:10
  sorry that I came in to discuss with
• 22:11
  them.
• 22:13
  Now I'm not blaming the individual reps.
• 22:15
  They're just doing their job, doing the best
• 22:17
  that they can.
• 22:18
  It's not their fault that the companies for
• 22:21
  which they work are corrupt and often very
• 22:23
  destructive.
• 22:25
  And by the way, I'm not anti-pharma.
• 22:28
  We need some drugs.
• 22:29
  Occasionally we need antibiotics when somebody gets really
• 22:30
  sick.
• 22:32
  We need good orthopedic surgeons to put Humpty
• 22:34
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• 22:36
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• 22:39
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  Um, you know, so we need specialists and
• 22:49
  surgeons and various doctors, and sure, we need
• 22:51
  some drugs once in a while, but we've
• 22:54
  gone so overboard in this disease model of
• 22:56
  medicine.
• 22:59
  Meaning uh, somebody comes in with a symptom
• 23:00
  or a disease.
• 23:02
  First instinct is to find a proper drug
• 23:05
  or treatment uh to treat that illness.
• 23:07
  We've all seen it.
• 23:09
  The uh NBA finals are on.
• 23:12
  Baseball is starting up, hockey playoffs.
• 23:15
  It's a great time for sports.
• 23:16
  There isn't a sporting event that you watch
• 23:18
  on TV where there isn't just a whole
• 23:21
  handful of pharmaceutical ads.
• 23:23
  And it's really interesting because some of these
• 23:25
  drugs I've never even heard of.
• 23:27
  These diseases that they highlight are often very
• 23:29
  rare diseases.
• 23:32
  So you wonder who are they trying to
• 23:33
  influence?
• 23:35
  Do you think there are, you know, uh
• 23:37
  basketball watching people uh that are really interested
• 23:40
  in learning about sky Rizzy for eczema or
• 23:42
  whatever the drug is, and they're gonna therefore
• 23:44
  now go to their doctor and ask for
• 23:46
  the drug?
• 23:49
  I actually learned the reason why pharma advertises
• 23:51
  so heavily on these networks, and it's not
• 23:53
  what you think.
• 23:56
  It's actually not to influence the consumer.
• 24:01
  It's not to influence the consumer.
• 24:04
  You know, not like the burger ads and
• 24:06
  the food ads where they make all this
• 24:08
  poisonous food look so healthy, and you can't
• 24:10
  wait to run out and get a you
• 24:12
  know, burger or chicken or whatever else is
• 24:14
  being advertised.
• 24:17
  Pharma advertises not to influence the consumer, but
• 24:20
  to influence the news desk.
• 24:24
  Yep, that's right.
• 24:26
  They pay enormous amounts of money to these
• 24:27
  networks.
• 24:29
  So the news desks are kinder and less
• 24:32
  critical of them.
• 24:36
  Do you think these networks are going to
• 24:38
  bite the hand that feeds them?
• 24:40
  And by the way, it's the same with
• 24:41
  medical journals.
• 24:43
  You pick your favorite journal, New England Journal
• 24:46
  of Medicine, so prestigious, the Lancet out of
• 24:49
  Great Britain, Journal of the American Medical Association,
• 24:51
  JAMA, and on and on and on, heavily
• 24:54
  funded by pharma.
• 24:58
  Do you think these journals are going to
• 25:01
  write critical articles about pharma if they're being
• 25:05
  heavily subsidized by these pharmaceutical companies?
• 25:09
  Do you think politicians are going to vote
• 25:12
  against pharma when their campaigns are being supported
• 25:16
  and propped up by pharmaceutical companies?
• 25:20
  That is the case.
• 25:39
  Pharma by far is the largest.
• 25:42
  There are more pharma lobbyists than there are
• 25:45
  legislators in Congress.
• 25:49
  Think about that.
• 25:51
  Think about that.
• 25:52
  I'm going to take a short break.
• 25:55
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• 25:58
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• 26:02
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• 26:06
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  Uh in the news of late is Hontavirus.
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  We heard about a cruise ship where three
• 30:42
  people apparently died, and a bunch of people
• 30:44
  were exposed to this Hontavirus.
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  Hontavirus is an RNA virus.
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  Now, before I go any further, let's remember
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  And so is there a similarity?
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  Oh, you bet there is.
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  Um, hontavirus vaccine.
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  You know, don't hold your breath.
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  Here it comes.
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  I hope we learned our lesson.
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  So hantavirus generally is contracted by coming into
• 31:19
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  Yep, I said it.
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  Rodent poop.
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  It is rarely spread, human to human.
• 31:33
  To the extent that this virus now can
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  be spread, human to human, could only mean
• 31:39
  that some lab somewhere has been manipulating this
• 31:42
  virus, maybe through gain of function research, just
• 31:46
  like we saw in the Wuhan Virology lab
• 31:49
  during COVID.
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  So here's what you should know about hontavirus.
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  It's been around since the beginning of time.
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  There's several thousand cases of Hontavirus every year.
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  If you're treated early, we absolutely can treat
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  this respiratory illness from this RNA virus.
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  Now, similar to COVID, I would expect, I
• 32:13
  don't know this.
• 32:16
  I don't know that there's been any testing,
• 32:19
  but I believe we can treat this hontavirus
• 32:22
  the same way we treated COVID with alternative
• 32:25
  medication.
• 32:29
  We can use the Swiss Army knife of
• 32:34
  repurpose medication, such as ivermectin, or even hydroxychloroquine.
• 32:39
  So you should not panic about hontavirus.
• 32:43
  You should turn the television off.
• 32:47
  Remember that movie Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.
• 32:49
  Put the coffee down.
• 32:51
  That's a great scene.
• 32:52
  I need to watch that again.
• 32:53
  It's like classic with Alec Baldwin.
• 32:56
  If you haven't seen it, look it up.
• 32:58
  Google or go to YouTube.
• 32:59
  Put the coffee down, Alec Baldwin.
• 33:01
  It's a great scene.
• 33:02
  Anyways, uh, but I uh went off track
• 33:04
  here.
• 33:05
  So I don't think hontavirus is anything to
• 33:07
  worry about.
• 33:08
  I think we need to remember what the
• 33:10
  government and the World Health Organization tried to
• 33:12
  do to us during COVID.
• 33:14
  The World Health Organization was complicit in what
• 33:16
  went on in China.
• 33:19
  They were high-fiving China for their reaction to
• 33:22
  uh the COVID virus.
• 33:25
  They continued to claim that the COVID virus
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  is was a result of the Wuhan wet
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  market, so-called bats that uh were infected with
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  this and then transmitted it.
• 33:36
  Never mind that the Wuhan wet market didn't
• 33:38
  actually serve bats, but never, but forget about
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  that.
• 33:42
  So I don't want any of us to
• 33:44
  be fooled again that somehow this is something
• 33:46
  we should be worried about.
• 33:50
  And you know, they're gonna try to do
• 33:51
  it again.
• 33:52
  Social distancing, wearing masks, the RNA virus is
• 33:55
  so teeny tiny, masks have no role to
• 33:58
  play to prevent infection, neither neither did it
• 34:01
  for the COVID virus.
• 34:04
  Wearing a mask for COVID virus or any
• 34:07
  other RNA virus is like trying to stop
• 34:10
  a mosquito with a chain link fence.
• 34:12
  That's the size differential.
• 34:15
  It's just ridiculous.
• 34:17
  Remember when we sat on airplanes with masks
• 34:19
  on.
• 34:26
  Um forbid people from sitting in the middle
• 34:27
  seats.
• 34:29
  Well, it's actually kind of cool.
• 34:31
  Who wants to sit in the middle seats
• 34:32
  anyways?
• 34:33
  But as if somehow that would protect people.
• 34:35
  It was sort of like, you know, I
• 34:38
  grew up in an error when we allowed
• 34:40
  smoking on airplanes, and there'd be a smoking
• 34:42
  section and a non-smoking section.
• 34:45
  Sometimes you'd be in a smoking section just
• 34:46
  a couple rows away.
• 34:48
  You'd be in a non smoking section, just
• 34:51
  a couple rows away from the smoking section.
• 34:53
  What a friggin' joke that we did stuff
• 34:55
  like that.
• 34:56
  There's still airplanes, older airplanes that have ashtrays
• 34:58
  and the little signs that say no smoking
• 35:00
  Trays and the little signs that say no
• 35:01
  and so forth.
• 35:01
  smoking and so forth.
• 35:03
  It's crazy.
• 35:03
  It's crazy.
• 35:04
  But masks play no role in protecting you
• 35:04
  But masks play no role in protecting you
• 35:06
  against a um RNA virus.
• 35:06
  against a um RNA virus.
• 35:08
  And so to the extent that you see
• 35:08
  And so, to the extent that you see
• 35:11
  on TV, World Health Organization, uh leaders, executives,
• 35:11
  on TV, World Health Organization, um uh leaders,
• 35:14
  whatever, you know, suggesting that we should socially
• 35:14
  executives, whatever, you know, suggesting that we should
• 35:16
  distance, that we should stay inside, that we
• 35:17
  socially distance, that we should stay inside, that
• 35:19
  should wear masks.
• 35:20
  we should wear masks, ignore all that.
• 35:22
  Ignore all that.
• 35:23
  Ignore all that.
• 35:23
  Ignore all that.
• 35:24
  We allowed this to happen during COVID.
• 35:24
  We allowed this to happen during COVID.
• 35:26
  We literally allowed it to happen.
• 35:26
  We literally allowed it to happen.
• 35:28
  Not enough of us stood up.
• 35:28
  Not enough of us stood up and said,
• 35:30
  oh, hell no, I'm not going to shut
• 35:31
  down my business.
• 35:33
  No, I'm not going to socially distance.
• 35:35
  I'm not going to wear masks on airplanes.
• 35:37
  Not enough of us said no.
• 35:39
  And so the government was able to uh
• 35:42
  to impose these restrictions on us.
• 35:45
  We're past that, but do we have a
• 35:47
  memory of what happened?
• 35:49
  And do is our memory sharp enough where
• 35:51
  we will never ever allow this to happen
• 35:53
  again.
• 35:56
  I certainly hope so.
• 35:58
  I certainly hope so, but we'll see.
• 36:00
  We'll see.
• 36:00
  We just don't know.
• 36:02
  Um, hope you're all doing well.
• 36:04
  Um, I want you to reach out and
• 36:06
  communicate with me as best you can.
• 36:09
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• 36:11
  Either leave me comments, go on social media,
• 36:13
  Rx for Liberty.
• 36:15
  There's a mechanism on my website that you
• 36:17
  can email me and contact me.
• 36:19
  I want to hear from you.
• 36:21
  I'm looking for sponsors of my uh now
• 36:23
  solo hosted podcast, informed dissent.
• 36:27
  Would love to have you.
• 36:28
  Um, and I am so excited to bring
• 36:30
  to you a bunch of great guests that
• 36:33
  I have lined up.
• 36:35
  Mark and I had some cool guests uh
• 36:37
  going back over the few years that we've
• 36:39
  hosted this, and I look forward to bringing
• 36:41
  you more guests.
• 36:44
  Okay, I'm gonna shift topics here, and I
• 36:46
  want to talk a little bit about blood
• 36:48
  pressure.
• 36:51
  I've had so many questions about blood pressure,
• 36:53
  and um I decided to do something a
• 36:54
  little bit crazy, and I'm really excited about
• 36:56
  it.
• 36:59
  So let's talk a little bit about blood
• 37:00
  pressure.
• 37:01
  First of all, it's one of the most
• 37:03
  common diagnoses in the United States.
• 37:05
  It's estimated that over half the adult population
• 37:08
  has high blood pressure, and most of them
• 37:11
  don't even know that they have it.
• 37:14
  There's a reason why blood pressure elevation, also
• 37:16
  known as hypertension, is called the silent killer,
• 37:19
  because most people feel pretty good, even when
• 37:21
  their blood pressure is elevated, they don't even
• 37:24
  know that it's elevated.
• 37:26
  And unless they're going to the doctor and
• 37:28
  having it measured, you know, who would even
• 37:30
  know?
• 37:32
  So that shuffling you here is me grabbing
• 37:38
  a bottle.
• 37:44
  So here's my approach to blood pressure.
• 37:47
  First of all, I think most, not all,
• 37:49
  but most people that have elevated blood pressure
• 37:51
  do not need drugs to treat the blood
• 37:53
  pressure.
• 37:55
  What they need is a functional medicine approach
• 37:57
  with a physician that knows what they're doing,
• 38:00
  that knows how to look for the root
• 38:02
  cause of elevated blood pressure.
• 38:05
  It is not normal to have elevated blood
• 38:06
  pressure.
• 38:08
  Elevated blood pressure is not a disease.
• 38:11
  Elevated blood pressure is a symptom.
• 38:13
  It's a symptom of something else.
• 38:17
  Now, we're not always able to find this
• 38:19
  something else, but we damn well sure should
• 38:21
  make an effort to do so.
• 38:24
  That is our obligation as a physician when
• 38:26
  you come and see me or any doctor,
• 38:28
  not just to write a prescription.
• 38:31
  The most commonly prescribed uh hypertension medication in
• 38:36
  the United States is a product called lysinapril.
• 38:40
  It's known as an ACE inhibitor, and they're
• 38:42
  all kinds of side effects potentially of this
• 38:44
  drug.
• 38:46
  Hang on, if you're on this drug, please
• 38:47
  don't stop.
• 38:49
  But please do go to your doctor, try
• 38:51
  to get a functional medicine approach to lowering
• 38:53
  your blood pressure so you can eventually get
• 38:55
  off this medication.
• 38:58
  But I did an informed consent on this.
• 39:01
  And by the way, almost every Friday, I
• 39:04
  do informed consent Friday on social media, and
• 39:07
  it is designed to educate people about a
• 39:10
  vaccine, about a drug, uh, or something of
• 39:14
  that sort, so you can learn about it
• 39:17
  and get information that your own doctor is
• 39:20
  not giving you.
• 39:23
  So lysinepril made by AstraZeneca, at least the
• 39:26
  branded name, zestral.
• 39:29
  There's a black box warning right on the
• 39:31
  front of the right on the front of
• 39:32
  the package insert.
• 39:34
  The package insert is an FDA, food and
• 39:37
  drug administration approved document.
• 39:40
  It's made in conjunction with the pharma company.
• 39:43
  It is a requirement.
• 39:45
  And there are elements of the package insert
• 39:47
  that are the same package insert to package
• 39:50
  insert, same sections.
• 39:53
  A black box warning is a warning that
• 39:56
  the FDA puts on a package insert.
• 39:59
  It is the highest level of warning prior
• 40:01
  to a drug or vaccine being removed from
• 40:03
  the market.
• 40:08
  And zestril, lysinabril, um generic name lysinabril, brand
• 40:12
  name zestral, has such a warning.
• 40:16
  Well, what does it say?
• 40:18
  Well, here's what it says, the black box
• 40:19
  warning.
• 40:21
  It says, and I'm I'm literally reading it
• 40:23
  right now.
• 40:24
  I've got the black box uh package insert
• 40:26
  warning in my hand.
• 40:28
  Here's what it says.
• 40:30
  Quote when pregnancy is detected, discontinue zestril as
• 40:34
  soon as possible.
• 40:38
  It is pregnancy category D, D like dog,
• 40:40
  which means there is a high likelihood of
• 40:43
  fetal toxicity if you take this drug during
• 40:45
  pregnancy.
• 40:48
  Now, listen, I don't I, of course, if
• 40:50
  you're pregnant, you should never take this drug,
• 40:53
  but it bodes the question.
• 40:55
  Why is it okay to take this drug
• 40:57
  if you're not pregnant and not okay to
• 40:59
  take it if you are pregnant?
• 41:01
  If this thing has some potentially significant problems
• 41:04
  during pregnancy, do I really want to be
• 41:07
  on it even if I'm not pregnant?
• 41:11
  Huh?
• 41:12
  I don't know.
• 41:13
  That's a reasonable question to ask.
• 41:15
  Then there's a whole list of potential side
• 41:18
  effects under section five.
• 41:21
  Every section five of a practice of a
• 41:23
  package insert has the same kind of narrative
• 41:25
  to it.
• 41:27
  And there are things like angioedema and anaphylactic
• 41:30
  reactions.
• 41:33
  There's a side effect 5.4, section 5.4.
• 41:37
  It says I'm reading literally.
• 41:38
  So I'm not making this up.
• 41:40
  Zesteril can cause symptomatic hypotension, hypotension is low
• 41:43
  blood pressure.
• 41:46
  Sometimes complicated by oliguria, that means reduced um
• 41:51
  urine output, progressive uh azotemia, azotemia.
• 41:56
  Uh, that's a bad thing, acute renal failure,
• 41:59
  and death.
• 42:00
  Failure and death.
• 42:02
  Now I know this isn't common, and millions
• 42:02
  Now I know this isn't common, and millions
• 42:04
  of people are on this, and please don't
• 42:04
  of people are on this, and please don't
• 42:06
  stop it without consulting with your doctor and
• 42:06
  stop it without consulting with your doctor and
• 42:08
  figuring out another strategy.
• 42:08
  figuring out another strategy.
• 42:10
  I'm just pointing out that this is not
• 42:10
  I'm just pointing out that this is not
• 42:12
  a benign product that should be used willy-nilly.
• 42:12
  a benign product that should be used willy-nilly.
• 42:15
  Then there's section 5.6.
• 42:15
  Then there's section 5.6.
• 42:17
  ACE inhibitors, that's what zestral lysinoprel is.
• 42:17
  ACE inhibitors, that's what zestral lysinopril is, angiotensin
• 42:21
  converting enzyme inhibitor.
• 42:21
  Angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitor.
• 42:25
  That's what the ACE ACE stands for, have
• 42:25
  That's what the ACE ACE stands for, have
• 42:27
  been associated with a
• 42:27
  been associated with a syndrome that starts with
• 42:29
  jaundice.
• 42:32
  It's when you turn yellow because your liver
• 42:35
  isn't working, or hepatitis.
• 42:37
  Anytime you see the word itis, it means
• 42:39
  inflammation.
• 42:40
  So HEPA is liver, itis is inflammation.
• 42:44
  So hepatitis is inflammation of the liver and
• 42:48
  progresses to fulminant hepatic necrosis.
• 42:52
  That means the liver kind of dies.
• 42:55
  And sometimes wait for it, death.
• 42:59
  So listen, my approach to hypertension is not
• 43:03
  to prescribe a drug, except rarely.
• 43:07
  My approach is to look for the root
• 43:08
  cause.
• 43:09
  So here are some of the things I
• 43:10
  do.
• 43:11
  What's your weight and your level of physical
• 43:12
  fitness?
• 43:14
  Let's lose some weight.
• 43:15
  Let's get physically fit.
• 43:17
  How's your stress might be the single most
• 43:21
  important causal relationship with hypertension?
• 43:25
  If you're under a lot of stress, I'm
• 43:28
  going to work with you, figure out what's
• 43:31
  going on, help you reduce your stress, reduce
• 43:34
  your stress by getting in nature, getting in
• 43:37
  sunshine, grounding, go in and see a counselor.
• 43:40
  I see a counselor myself almost weekly, a
• 43:42
  faith-based counselor.
• 43:45
  So helpful just to download the weeks of
• 43:47
  stress and things that are going on in
• 43:50
  my life to keep me balanced, to keep
• 43:52
  me accountable.
• 43:54
  I think seeing a counselor is a wonderful
• 43:56
  thing.
• 43:58
  Men that are listening, look at it this
• 43:59
  way.
• 44:00
  Think of it as coaching.
• 44:01
  If you want to be a better golfer,
• 44:03
  yeah, you got to play a lot of
• 44:06
  golf, but it's so helpful to have a
• 44:08
  coach that can look at you objectively from
• 44:10
  afar and give you instructions about altering your
• 44:12
  swing, your grip, uh, all these different elements
• 44:15
  of golfing or any sport that you might
• 44:17
  play.
• 44:19
  So counseling, coaching can be a great way
• 44:23
  to help lower stress, breath work, meditation, prayer,
• 44:26
  all these things are so important.
• 44:30
  And in addition to that, I think seeing
• 44:33
  a chiropractor regularly is a good thing.
• 44:35
  And if you have hypertension and you see
• 44:38
  me, unless you're unless your high blood pressure
• 44:40
  is so high that it's like urgent that
• 44:42
  we treat it.
• 44:44
  Uh, if it's just moderately high, I'm gonna
• 44:47
  do all these things way before I put
• 44:49
  you on any kind of drugs.
• 44:52
  See a chiropractor.
• 44:53
  If your nerves are being impinged as they
• 44:56
  exit your spinal cord through your vertebrae, that
• 44:59
  is like a dimmer switch on a light.
• 45:02
  And your nerves may be dimmed a little
• 45:04
  bit, and the things that are innervated by
• 45:06
  those nerves, your heart, your lungs, your blood
• 45:09
  press, your blood cells, your um, your blood
• 45:11
  vessels, where I meant to say, all parts
• 45:14
  of your body, those are being affected.
• 45:16
  It could raise your blood pressure and the
• 45:19
  simple manipulation of going to a chiropractor on
• 45:22
  a regular basis can certainly help.
• 45:25
  Okay.
• 45:26
  So what is my approach next?
• 45:29
  It's to use a group of supplements to
• 45:31
  help.
• 45:33
  Now, please listen to me carefully.
• 45:35
  I am not suggesting that you should take
• 45:37
  supplements to cure your blood pressure.
• 45:40
  I'm talking about supplements that can support your
• 45:43
  cardiovascular health and blood pressure.
• 45:47
  I've been recommending supplements for a long time.
• 45:49
  There's a group of supplements that I can
• 45:51
  that I think can make a difference.
• 45:52
  They're called uh the supplements are, and there
• 45:56
  are other ones too, but these are the
• 45:59
  main ones magnesium, beetroot, ashwagonda, which is an
• 46:03
  adaptogen, L-theanine, amino acid that can help calm
• 46:06
  your nerves, and even omega-3 fatty acids.
• 46:10
  All of those are excellent at helping to
• 46:14
  support cardiovascular health and being part of the
• 46:18
  picture and the solution to naturally and healthfully
• 46:21
  lowering your blood pressure.
• 46:25
  Now, all of those supplements that I just
• 46:29
  mentioned magnesium, beetroot, ashwagonda, L-theanine, and omega-3 fatty
• 46:32
  acids, I decided to take all of those
• 46:36
  and put them into a single supplement.
• 46:39
  I call it RX for Liberty blood pressure
• 46:43
  support, RX for Liberty, blood pressure support.
• 46:47
  In the show notes, I will be posting
• 46:50
  a link where if you want, you can
• 46:52
  purchase this supplement.
• 46:56
  Again, I am not here to diagnose or
• 46:59
  treat any medical problem.
• 47:02
  Always check with your own doctor before starting
• 47:05
  any medication or any supplement.
• 47:08
  But I have found great success in my
• 47:12
  patients, my friends, my family, in using the
• 47:15
  combination of these supplements, Rx for Liberty, blood
• 47:19
  pressure support that contains magnesium, beetroot, ashwagonda, L-theanine,
• 47:22
  and omega-3 fatty acids in one to help
• 47:26
  you.
• 47:29
  Um, so check it out and let me
• 47:31
  know what you think.
• 47:32
  I'm super excited that I uh found these
• 47:34
  supplements.
• 47:37
  Uh, I'm working with a local uh source
• 47:40
  of these ingredients.
• 47:43
  Um, all of the supplements are third-party tested.
• 47:46
  All of the supplements in every batch, not
• 47:49
  just batches once a year, um, have certificates,
• 47:53
  what are called COAs, certificates of uh of
• 47:56
  authenticity, so important.
• 48:00
  Um, and there are no janky additional ingredients.
• 48:03
  So there's no silicon dioxide, which I don't
• 48:05
  think is a healthy supplement for anybody to
• 48:07
  take.
• 48:09
  So it's clean, it's pure, it's third-party tested.
• 48:13
  They all have COAs.
• 48:15
  You can look this up, and you can
• 48:17
  order them directly through RX4 Liberty, blood pressure
• 48:20
  support.
• 48:22
  There'll be a link in the show notes.
• 48:24
  Let me know what you think.
• 48:25
  This literally, you're listening.
• 48:27
  If you're listening to this on a Saturday
• 48:29
  or a Sunday or Monday, today I'm recording
• 48:30
  this.
• 48:32
  I usually don't say this.
• 48:34
  We're supposed to keep this kind of secret,
• 48:37
  but I'm recording this podcast, this show on
• 48:40
  iHeart Radio on the podcast on Wednesday evening,
• 48:43
  May 13th.
• 48:47
  So if you're listening to it a few
• 48:50
  days later on the weekend or next Monday,
• 48:52
  this supplement is literally launching on Friday, May
• 48:55
  15th.
• 48:59
  First time ever.
• 49:00
  Ever.
• 49:00
  Super excited.
• 49:00
  Super excited.
• 49:01
  I've got a couple other supplements I'm working
• 49:01
  I've got a couple other supplements I'm working
• 49:03
  on.
• 49:03
  on.
• 49:04
  I'm only going to put together supplements where
• 49:04
  I'm only going to put together supplements where
• 49:06
  it makes sense, where alternatives that are better
• 49:06
  it makes sense, where alternatives that are better
• 49:09
  are not available.
• 49:09
  are not available.
• 49:12
  So I'm really excited to get into this
• 49:12
  So I'm really excited to get into this
• 49:14
  supplement world.
• 49:14
  supplement world.
• 49:16
  Again, remember, my goal here is not for
• 49:16
  Again, remember, my goal here is not for
• 49:18
  you to be healthy for health's sake.
• 49:18
  you to be healthy for health's sake.
• 49:21
  My goal is for you to be healthy
• 49:21
  My goal is for you to be healthy
• 49:23
  so you can serve whatever God's purpose is
• 49:23
  so you can serve whatever God's purpose is
• 49:25
  in your life.
• 49:25
  in your life.
• 49:27
  So blood pressure, that's my approach.
• 49:27
  So blood pressure, that's my approach.
• 49:30
  Root cause.
• 49:32
  Do things like stress reduction, meditation, get in
• 49:34
  nature.
• 49:36
  Please see a chiropractor.
• 49:38
  I see a chiropractor uh pretty much weekly.
• 49:41
  Get out, I get out of routine a
• 49:42
  little bit.
• 49:43
  I go see Billy Damas in Newport Beach.
• 49:45
  He's wonderful.
• 49:46
  He's become a friend.
• 49:47
  He's a great chiropractor.
• 49:49
  We do seminars together sometimes as well.
• 49:52
  Um the other thing I want to talk
• 49:54
  to you about, because I get a cajillion
• 49:57
  questions on this.
• 50:00
  Peptides, weight loss peptides.
• 50:03
  What up with that?
• 50:05
  Barkie, you're all natural.
• 50:07
  Do you think it's a good idea to
• 50:09
  go on GLP1, GLP2, GLP3?
• 50:12
  That's not actually accurate names, but you get
• 50:14
  the idea.
• 50:16
  GLP1, semi-glutide.
• 50:18
  I'm not going to mention the branded names,
• 50:20
  but you all know what it is that
• 50:22
  you get at the pharmacies that are prescribed
• 50:24
  in those fancy pens.
• 50:26
  But GLP1 is semi-glutide.
• 50:28
  GLP2 is trisepatide, GLP3, not yet approved, but
• 50:32
  will be soon is retatrutide, also known as
• 50:35
  RETA.
• 50:38
  Listen, I prefer a disciplined approach to losing
• 50:40
  weight.
• 50:43
  We all know how difficult it can be
• 50:45
  for many of us if you're overweight and
• 50:47
  you've been so for many, many years.
• 50:50
  I get it.
• 50:51
  So I think some of these weight loss
• 50:53
  peptides can be used safely.
• 50:56
  But here's the rub.
• 50:59
  Number one, only under medical supervision, please.
• 51:03
  I've seen people get harmed by high dose
• 51:06
  semi-glutide or even trisepatite.
• 51:08
  I've seen people lose primarily muscle, not fat.
• 51:12
  Uh, so be careful and be monitored carefully.
• 51:15
  Low dose only under supervision.
• 51:18
  So in my office, we carry a bunch
• 51:20
  of peptides, but I'm going to talk right
• 51:22
  now about the weight loss peptides.
• 51:24
  There are three non-starters.
• 51:26
  Three things I need somebody to do if
• 51:27
  I'm going to use peptides on them to
• 51:29
  help them lose weight.
• 51:31
  Number one, they have to eat plenty of
• 51:33
  protein.
• 51:34
  I recommend about 100 grams of protein a
• 51:36
  day.
• 51:37
  Not easy to do.
• 51:38
  Probably need a protein powder to help you
• 51:40
  with that.
• 51:41
  Um, uh, certainly not easy to do.
• 51:44
  Number two, you need to be lifting weights.
• 51:47
  If you're not lifting weights, don't ask me
• 51:49
  for peptides to lose weight.
• 51:50
  Otherwise, you'll end up losing muscle and not
• 51:52
  losing fat.
• 51:53
  You will be lighter, but you will not
• 51:55
  be healthier.
• 51:57
  Number three, you need some sort of trackable
• 52:00
  device, Apple Watch, Aura Ring, Fitbit, Whoopstrap, I
• 52:03
  don't care, or just your iPhone.
• 52:06
  And I want to see 15,000 steps a
• 52:08
  day.
• 52:11
  If you're not willing to commit to those
• 52:13
  things or getting close to those things, not
• 52:15
  going to put you on peptides.
• 52:17
  And then finally, I want to see you
• 52:19
  monthly.
• 52:20
  We have a fancy, schmancy body comp machine
• 52:23
  called in body.
• 52:25
  Uh, we've got a brand new one.
• 52:27
  Boy, are they expensive, but they provide great
• 52:28
  information.
• 52:30
  So before I start somebody on a weight
• 52:32
  loss peptide, we do an in-body analysis.
• 52:35
  We can see how much body fat, how
• 52:38
  much skeletal muscle.
• 52:41
  It also measures and gives us an estimate
• 52:43
  of visceral fat.
• 52:44
  It's got a composite score.
• 52:46
  We can tell percent body fat.
• 52:49
  So as somebody moves forward with these peptides,
• 52:51
  I want to see that they're losing weight,
• 52:53
  but they're not losing muscle.
• 52:55
  And if they are losing muscle, then we
• 52:57
  we're gonna have a conversation about those three
• 52:59
  things about getting plenty of protein, about lifting
• 53:01
  weights, and getting plenty of movement and steps
• 53:04
  throughout the day.
• 53:06
  So I've had tons of people successfully use
• 53:09
  GLP ones, lose a GLP ones, twos, and
• 53:11
  threes, uh, lose a substantial amount of weight,
• 53:14
  uh, and that weight is disproportionately fat over
• 53:17
  muscle.
• 53:20
  So I think they can be beneficial.
• 53:22
  By the way, there's also a whole group
• 53:24
  of other peptides as well that I think
• 53:26
  can be beneficial.
• 53:28
  Um, unfortunately, these peptides often are not FDA
• 53:30
  approved.
• 53:32
  They're for quote unquote experimental use only.
• 53:35
  I think the peptide world is going to
• 53:37
  change under the leadership of uh Bobby Kennedy
• 53:39
  Jr.
• 53:41
  Um, he has talked about releasing some of
• 53:44
  these peptides uh and making them uh FDA
• 53:47
  uh okay.
• 53:50
  Um, so doctors and others aren't getting into
• 53:52
  trouble.
• 53:54
  I mean, the reality is, especially here where
• 53:56
  I practice in coastal Orange County, uh, everybody
• 53:59
  and their mother is on peptides, and there's
• 54:02
  so many shops that are selling peptides from
• 54:04
  health clinics and uh maybe even chiropractor offices
• 54:07
  and whatever, and that's fine.
• 54:10
  But you got to be very, very careful
• 54:12
  also about where you get your peptides.
• 54:14
  You want to make sure that it's from
• 54:16
  a FDA certified compounding lab.
• 54:18
  That's not to say that the compounds are
• 54:21
  FDA approved, they're not, but the labs are
• 54:23
  certified in a way that you know they're
• 54:26
  compliant with uh commonly accepted uh compounding and
• 54:28
  pharmacy uh mechanisms.
• 54:31
  I forget there's a there's a there's a
• 54:33
  name for that.
• 54:34
  And then second, you want to make sure
• 54:37
  that they're manufactured domestically and that they're all
• 54:40
  third-party tested with COAs.
• 54:43
  Finally, I've heard a lot about well, my
• 54:45
  my substrates and amino acids don't come from
• 54:46
  China.
• 54:48
  No, I'm sorry, they all do come from
• 54:50
  China, but here's the difference.
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  The FDA has what they call the green
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  list.
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  So there's probably a uh just a ton
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  of uh places you can buy these from
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  China, and sometimes you can buy them very,
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  very cheap.
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  But the FDA has vetted some of these
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  labs and producers of amino acid peptides in
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  China, and they're on this green list.
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  So you want to be sure that wherever
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  your compounding lab is getting them from, almost
• 55:18
  always China, that they're only using a green
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  listed uh FDA vetted laboratory in China.
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  So those are the criteria.
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  In my office, we've been using the same
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  lab for the last couple, three years.
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  They meet all those criteria.
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  Um, so I feel very confident with our
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  compounded weight loss peptides, semi-glutide, trisepatite, and retatrutide,
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  as well as the other compounds, the other
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  peptides that we carry here in the office.
• 55:46
  Okay, so much more to talk to you
• 55:47
  about that I didn't have time to get
• 55:48
  to.
• 55:49
  I wanted to talk to you about cholesterol
• 55:50
  and statins.
• 55:52
  I wanted to talk to you about type
• 55:53
  two diabetes.
• 55:55
  I wanted to talk to you about vaccines.
• 55:56
  I know that's always a hot topic.
• 55:58
  Um, and I wanted to talk to you
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  To you about the MTHFR mutation.
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  about the MTHFR mutation.
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  These are some of the topics that I'll
• 56:03
  These are some of the topics that I'll
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  talk about in the future, as well as
• 56:06
  talk about in the future, as well as
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  bringing you exciting guests on informed descent.
• 56:10
  bringing you exciting guests on Informed Descent.
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  So thank you for listening and wrapping up
• 56:14
  So thank you for listening and wrapping up
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  my first solo podcast.
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  my first solo podcast.
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  Awesome.
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