Latest / Cozy Comfort Club Podcast / Gothic British TV: Haunted Houses & Hidden Secrets on PBS Masterpiece, BritBox & Acorn TV
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- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Cozy Comfort Club,
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: the podcast where we talk about comfort movies,
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: cozy stories, and the little moments that make them memorable.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: I'm Leah,
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: a stay-at-home mom of three,
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: a lifelong lover of cozy stories and someone
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: who can spend way too much time thinking about fictional characters
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: and why they make the choices they do.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: If you enjoy cozy mysteries,
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: period dramas,
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: character-driven stories,
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: and comfort TV with a little emotional depth, you are definitely in the right place.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Here, I talk about how stories feel,
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: I share what worked,
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: what didn't,
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: and even the moments that made me side-eye a character,
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: all so you know was worth adding to your watchlist.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: Well, friends, welcome back.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: Spooky month continues,
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: and this week we're going to step inside some houses
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: where I would definitely have questions before agreeing to stay the night.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: Beautiful rooms?
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Okay, wonderful.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: Strange noises, mysterious dolls, and people refusing to explain anything.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: I'm going to need a little bit more information.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: So today we're going to explore gothic storytelling through three picks on Acorn TV,
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: PBS, Masterpiece, and BritBox, plus a darker bonus outside of our usual platforms.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: So we'll start with something light and funny and then we'll work our way
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: toward more creepy and unpredictable stories.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: But first, what actually makes a story gothic?
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: Is it an old house,
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: a ghost,
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: a woman wandering down a hallway in her nightdress
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: when she really should be leaving?
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: Those things can certainly help, but there's more going on beneath the surface.
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: So for this episode,
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: I did some reading,
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: including John Bowen's discussion of gothic motifs for the British Library and
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: the British Film Institute's writing on gothic film and TV.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: I'll link my sources in the show notes if you'd like to explore them too.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: Now one thing I What I found helpful is
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: that Gothic stories don't all follow one strict checklist.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: They share these recurring ideas,
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: unsettling places and buried secrets,
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: unequal power and a past that refuses to stay in the past.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: So sometimes there are actual ghosts and then other times people are haunted
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: by grief and guilt and obsession or something
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: that their family would rather keep hidden.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: The British literary tradition is usually traced to Horace Walpole's The Castle
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: of Otranto, published in 1764.
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: Its second edition carried the subtitle A Gothic Story.
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: So writers such as Anne Radcliffe helped develop the tradition.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: And then later came stories including Frankenstein and Jane Eyre,
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: Dracula and The Turn of the Screw.
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: And those stories gave filmmakers so much to work with.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: So think of isolated houses,
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: dangerous attractions,
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: strange creatures,
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: and questions about what happens when people cross boundaries
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: that they really don't understand.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: If you'd like a few classic British films to explore alongside this week's picks,
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: there's The Innocents from 1961, another adaptation of The Turn of the Screw.
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: There's The Haunting from 1963, adapted from Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: And there's Hammer's Dracula from 1958 with Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: And speaking of Dracula,
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: I'm sure some of y'all saw that video of Jonathan Bailey narrating for Audible.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: It was very extra.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: But the people loved it.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: And so did I.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: So go on YouTube.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: You can Google it.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: It's a lot.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: Now, those are all additional titles to look into rather than recommendations
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: from today's three streaming platforms.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: They also show how varied gothic cinema can be,
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: from uncertainty about a haunting to a much more recognizable supernatural monster.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: And Gothic influence extends beyond books and screens.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: You can see related imagery and fashion and music and art,
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: even video games,
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: from dramatic silhouettes and ruined buildings and eerie landscapes,
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: and this fascination with beauty, death, and the mysterious.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: Gothic fiction and the goth music and fashion subculture that we all tried to copy
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: in high school aren't exactly the same thing.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: And Gothic architecture has its own much older history.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: But those different uses of the word do help explain So
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: Halloween didn't begin
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: with gothic novels,
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: but the two share so much of the imagery that we associate with spooky seasons.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: So ghosts and vampires and Old houses,
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: darkness, and the possibility that the dead aren't really finished with the living.
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: So for me,
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: there's always this pleasure of experiencing something kind of frightening
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: from somewhere very cozy.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: So I can enjoy a fictional haunted house while sitting in my home with tea and
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: a blanket,
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: but I do not like all that mysterious noises upstairs or none of that running water.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: Uh-uh.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Now, what's most interesting
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: to me is how these stories make really familiar things feel strange.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: So a home should offer safety, but it usually becomes threatening.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: A relationship should offer trust, but someone is keeping secrets.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: And a character does start wondering whether they can believe what they're actually seeing.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: So that gives us a lot to talk about,
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: especially when it comes to the characters and their relationships,
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: which you know is my favorite part.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: So I'll keep the recommendation spoiler light,
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: share what I enjoyed,
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: and then let you know how cozy or not so cozy each one felt to me.
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: Now my bonus is a first impressions pick.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: I've only watched the opening episode,
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: but the gothic atmosphere was enough to get my attention and to bring it to
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: the podcast.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: So go ahead and grab your tea,
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: get cozy, and let's begin with Agatha Raisin and a little ghost hunting.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: We're starting on the lighter side of Gothic Week with The Haunted House and
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: A Little Ghost Hunting and Agatha Raisin.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: First is Agatha Raisin and The Haunted House on Acorn TV.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: This is Season 3, Episode 1, starring Ashley Jensen, Matthew Horne,
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: So pick them up if you enjoyed this episode.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: You can also enjoy this mystery without watching the entire series first.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: You will be joining some relationships already in progress,
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: but if you love a campy, silly,
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: colorful, cozy mystery with a quirky and eccentric lead, Agatha Raisin is your girl.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: At this point,
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: Agatha and James are already together and she has a detective agency
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: that has officially opened.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: And of course, it's just as eccentric as she is, but the agency needs clients.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: So James comes up with an idea to drum up business, a little ghost hunting at Ivy Hall.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: Olivia Witherspoon, who lives there, swears the place is haunted.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: There are ghost stories connected to the house and its history stretching back to
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: the, I think it was the English Civil War or something.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: But what begins as an investigation into a haunting becomes a murder mystery
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: where Olivia is found dead.
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: So Agatha and her crew start trying to figure out who had a reason
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: to frighten Olivia and who might have wanted her dead.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: So there are family members,
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: local personalities, and plenty of suspicious behavior to keep them busy.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: I chose this one for Gothic Week because it takes some familiar Gothic ingredients
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: and then gives them the Agatha Raisin Treatment.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: So first we have Ivy Hall.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: It's an old house with a troubling history and story of ghosts.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: In Gothic storytelling,
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: a house often does And it's history becomes part of the threat making
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: the people living there feel that something from the past still has power over them.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: And that's what we're investigating here.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: Is the house actually haunted?
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: Is someone using this history to frighten Olivia?
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: Who should we actually believe?
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: So that uncertainty connects to the Gothic 2.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: You don't always need a real ghost.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: Sometimes the fear that something supernatural might be happening is enough to make
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: a seemingly normal place feel threatening.
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: A home should offer protection, but Olivia feels unsafe in hers.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: And then her death gives that fear a real consequence.
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: So I would describe this as a cozy mystery that borrows gothic elements.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: So the unsettling house,
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: the returning past or going back to the past,
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: and the doubt about what's causing the haunting.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: But Agatha's humor changed.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: So if you want to investigate a creepy house
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: but would appreciate Agatha Raisin making you laugh along the way,
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: this is your pick.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: I gave this one 4.25 out of 5 stars.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: It's enjoyable.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: It's perfect when you need something lighter and want to giggle.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: Agatha is silly.
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: And like I said, the banter is one of my favorite parts.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: It isn't quite as cheesy as The Good Ship Murder.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: Which, by the way, I enjoy it for what it is.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: But my cozy rating is a 4.75 out of 5.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: Very, very cozy.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: There's a murder and some spooky atmosphere,
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: but the humor and the group of characters kind of make this
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: a really comfortable watch for me.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: You can watch Agatha Raisin in the Haunted House again on Acorn TV.
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: It's rated TV 14.
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: It runs about an hour and 37 minutes.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: So you can make a whole cozy, spooky evening of it.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: So now we're moving into something a little bit more atmospheric,
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: more secretive, and definitely heavier.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: So this is The Miniaturist.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: So The Miniaturist is a period thriller and it's adapted from Jesse Burton's novel
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: of the same name.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: So Amsterdam had become incredibly wealthy through international trade and
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: the sugar trade plays a part in the world.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: But alongside that wealth you have strong Calvinist expectations about religion
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: and morality and how people should behave.
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: So you have people surrounded by very beautiful things but pleasure
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: and desire are treated with suspicion.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: So Petronella,
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: or Nella, arrives at the Brandt household after agreeing to marry Johanna's Brandt.
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: He is a wealthy businessman with really deep secrets.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: The marriage is meant to help her family out of financial hardship.
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: The household is run by his sister,
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Maren Brandt,
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: who is very religious and she's cold and has a complicated relationship
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: with her brother.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: They also have a maid
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: We learn early on that Otto was previously enslaved aboard a Portuguese ship
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: before Johannes brought him and freed him.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: His experience also brings racism and the realities of slavery into the story.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Now, Petronella feels isolated by Yohannes and is treated really poorly by Marion.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: But Yohannes gives her a dollhouse as a wedding gift.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: She orders pieces from the miniaturist,
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: but it seems that whoever is making these miniatures knows everything happening in
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: the household.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: So Petronella starts to realize that everything is not as it seems.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: There's so much hidden within the house and within the minds of the people who occupy it.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: Now,
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: what I loved about this was how some of the relationships developed between Nella
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: and the other people.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: This
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: is definitely gothic to me.
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: You have this house,
- 11:40SPEAKER_00: this imposing house,
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: dolls and secrets,
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: this really dark atmosphere, and this mysterious miniature maker and paranoia.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: And then we have the tension that builds from the beginning to the end.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: The miniatures also bring in the uncanny,
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: something familiar, but, you know, like a replica of your own home.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: But it becomes unsettling when it seems to know more than you do.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: But what really makes this unsettling is that Nella enters this house as a new bride
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: and she doesn't know the people that she's living with or who she can trust.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: A home obviously should feel safe.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: This one doesn't.
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: So to me...
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: That's a big part of what makes it gothic.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: This was just so good in so many ways.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: I mean, the lead and supporting actors are incredible.
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: Anya Taylor-Joy is obviously a wonderful actress.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: You probably know her from The Queen's Gambit or Pearl Harbor.
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: My personal favorite of mine, Peaky Blinders.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: And then you have Alex Hassel.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: His dedication to the role was spectacular.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: You may know him from Rivals or Cowboy Bebop.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: Then we have Marion played by Romula Garai.
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: She was brilliant.
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: You may know her So if the plot isn't enough to convince you,
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: then watch it simply for the amount of talent that's actually in this.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: So I gave this 4.75 out of 5 stars.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: This gives the best gothic vibes without being full on horror.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: There's enough suspense that you want more but it didn't feel overly bloody to me.
- 13:09SPEAKER_00: There are heavier themes though so content warnings including death
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: and distressed It's in childbirth scenes,
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: in violence,
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: harm to animals, racial bigotry, persecution, homophobia, and sexual content.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: It is still rated TV 14 and my Cozy rating is a 2.75 out of 5.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: I loved it, but there is quite a bit here that makes it a heavier watch.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: You can watch it on PBS with either PBS Passport or PBS Masterpiece, which is what I cover here.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: It's a three-part series with episodes around 53 minutes each.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: Now, from a house full of secrets to a country estate
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: where we can't quite trust what we're seeing,
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: next is The Turn of the Screw,
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: the 1999 TV movie starring Jody May, Colin Firth, Pam Ferris, and Caroline Pegg.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: And I have to say,
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: they should have left Colin Firth out of the promotion because he was barely in it.
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: So if you're watching this for him, just know you ain't really gonna get him.
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: Just a few minutes, okay?
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: Now, this is based on Henry James's gothic horror novella, and it was published in 1898.
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: The story takes place in Victorian England at a remote country estate called Bly.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: Jodie May plays a young governess known simply as Miss,
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: who was hired to care for Now that sounds great, right?
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: Now before we go...
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: You may know her as Ms.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: Trunchbull from the original Matilda and Ms. starts experiencing things around
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: And as viewers, we're trying to figure out, okay, is this house really haunted?
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: Or is she misinterpreting what she's seeing?
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Or can we trust her perspective at all?
- 14:59SPEAKER_00: There are also questions about Ms. Jessel,
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: and this is the governess who worked there before her,
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: and she's played by Caroline Pegg.
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: And Miles has been expelled from school, but the reasons aren't really cleared.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: So there is quite a bit here to make you uneasy before you even get to the ghostly encounters.
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: Now, what makes this gothic to me is obviously the isolated country house again.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: The secrets left behind by the people who were there before and the uncertainty
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: about what's actually happening.
- 15:26SPEAKER_00: So Miss is supposed to be protecting these kids,
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: but she starts to fear that something sinister has a hold on them.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: So there goes that paranoia again.
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: And Jodi Mae plays this so well.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: We see her arrive at the manor and she's looking bright and excited.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: And then she starts to lose that spark day by day.
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: Just watch her eyes as the movie goes on.
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: And at times she almost seems haunted herself.
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: So watching that change was definitely the strongest part for me.
- 15:54SPEAKER_00: Now, this is a little slow sometimes,
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: at times,
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: but I think it's the right amount of spooky for those of us who aren't too keen
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: on horror.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: That's about the level of fright, though,
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: because the themes themselves But since this is spooky month,
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: please expect it to be darker than a lot of the TV and films I usually bring to
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: the podcast.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to keep the ending to myself,
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: but this left me with a lot to think about and with my mouth left open
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: because I've never watched this movie.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: Now, content warnings include suicide,
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: death, disturbing scenes involving children, and themes of child abuse.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: You can watch this version of the Turn of the Screw on BritBox.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: It's about an hour and a half,
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: so this is a shorter watch if you want a gothic story without committing to it.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: So if you want to see those two in a movie together again, go ahead and watch that.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: The Turn of the Screw and it came out in 2009.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: And if this story really interests you,
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: another adaptation to explore is The Haunting of Bly Manor on Netflix.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: It reimagines the turn of the screw alongside other Henry James stories,
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: moving the setting to the 1980s.
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: Okay friends,
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: now we've reached our bonus pick and based on the first episode,
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: this is the darkest of today's selections.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: It's The Living and the Dead,
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: a supernatural horror drama originally released in 2016 by the BBC.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: There's just one season with six episodes and each are around an hour.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: So we're in Somerset, England, it's 1894.
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: Colin Morgan plays Nathan Apeby,
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: a Victorian psychologist,
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: and Charlotte Spencer plays his wife, Charlotte, who is a photographer.
- 17:37SPEAKER_00: So they return from London to Nathan's family farm,
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: and after his mom dies, they take on the responsibility of keeping it going.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: But this return home brings a lot more than just farming problems.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: There are strange things happening.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: Nathan finds himself investigating experiences that seem supernatural.
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: He's someone who's trained to really understand the mind and to look for rationality
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: or rationality.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: Rational explanations.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: But the question,
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: of course,
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: is what happens when he encounters something that his training can't really explain?
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: And so Nathan is also carrying grief from the death of his young son.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: So returning to his family home means returning to a place connected to a lot of penguins.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: So for me, it raises a question, right?
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: How is it shaping how he's viewing other people and all this?
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: Supernatural things going on and what he believes and what he wants to be true.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: Can we trust his perspective?
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: And I chose this partly because I am a sucker for a show where the main character is
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: a psychologist.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: You can give me someone trying to understand people's minds and then
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: a complicated past and I'm going to be hooked.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: And someone over on TikTok actually recommended this to me too.
- 18:49SPEAKER_00: And as I'm recording, I've really only finished episode one.
- 18:53SPEAKER_00: So these are only my first impressions, but I really enjoyed it.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: And I think I'll finish the season for Halloween.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: And of course, the gothic feeling was there immediately.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: An isolated setting.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's on a farm.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: An inherited family home, grief, a past that is not going to stay in the past.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: There's also this tension between the supernatural possibilities and science.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: And then Nathan brings his knowledge of psychology into a community
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: where these older beliefs have a hold on everybody.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: And that clash feels very gothic to me.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: The confidence that we can explain the world meaning something
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: that makes us question that confidence.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: And I also think the contrast between the beautiful countryside and
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: the disturbing events matter too.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: It can look kind of peaceful, but then it's deeply just weird.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: And Nathan's connection to the farm makes it a lot more personal.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: It's his family's home.
- 19:49SPEAKER_00: And like I said, the memories and losses attached to it.
- 19:53SPEAKER_00: And this possibility of like this haunting with all these emotions is
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: that combination really is what kept me watching.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: Now, this is my pick for listeners who want to venture further into some supernatural horror.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: Based on episode one, it does feel darker than the other selections.
- 20:09SPEAKER_00: I would not approach it the same way that I would approach Agatha Raisin or even
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: the miniaturist.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: The opening episode does include bereavement and references to the death of a child
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: and disturbing possession-like scenes involving a teenager.
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: I'm going to save my full review and ratings until I've watched more,
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: but as a first impression, it caught my attention.
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: And you can watch The Living and the Dead free with ads on Tubi,
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: and it's also currently available with a Prime Video subscription.
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: Just make sure you're choosing the 2016 British TV series with Colin Morgan
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: and Charlotte Spencer.
- 20:45SPEAKER_00: All right, before we finish, friends, I have two books to connect to this week's theme.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: One is a five star read from last year and the other is a book I'm currently halfway through.
- 20:54SPEAKER_00: So first is Mexican Gothic by Silvia Moreno-Garcia.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: This takes us to Mexico in the 1950s.
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: We're receiving a disturbing letter from her cousin, Catalina.
- 21:03SPEAKER_00: Noemi travels to High Place,
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: the remote house where Catalina lives with her husband and his family.
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: And we're back to one of this week's recurring situations,
- 21:13SPEAKER_00: entering a household where something feels wrong,
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: but the people around you aren't giving you any clear answers.
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: I'm only halfway through this one as I'm recording,
- 21:19SPEAKER_00: so this is a reading in progress pic rather than a full review,
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: but the gothic connection is pretty clear.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: We have the isolated house,
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: a secreted family,
- 21:28SPEAKER_00: a young woman,
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: Trying to understand what's happening to someone that she cares about.
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: Catalina is being diagnosed or was diagnosed with tuberculosis,
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: but we don't really know if that's the truth.
- 21:38SPEAKER_00: She's totally different than the way that she used to be.
- 21:41SPEAKER_00: She's seeing things and the house just feels so oppressive and there's uncertainty
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: about what Noemi can trust.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: And that brings us back to the uncanny to these ordinary surroundings and they begin
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: to feel strange and threatening.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: It also moves the gothic story beyond the English country house.
- 21:59SPEAKER_00: So we have a Mexican setting and the family's relationship to a place that,
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: you know, will question race and belonging and power.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: And if this week's houses full of secrets have caught your attention,
- 22:12SPEAKER_00: because clearly that's the part of gothic that I love, this is a book to look into.
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: And I'll save my final rating until I'm done.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: My second book is The Clinic by Kate Quinn.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: I read this in May 2025.
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: I gave it a five out of five stars at that time.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: It's set at a remote luxury rehabilitation clinic on the Pacific Northwest Coast.
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: After her sister dies there, Meg enters the clinic.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: So once again,
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: we have someone who's entering an unfamiliar place trying to uncover secrets
- 22:42SPEAKER_00: and question who deserves her trust.
- 22:45SPEAKER_00: I would describe this as a,
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: I think they actually described the book as a psychological thriller
- 22:49SPEAKER_00: with gothic elements.
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: The gothic connection for me is partly the setting.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: So we moved from the old manor house to this isolated institution,
- 22:58SPEAKER_00: but we still have a place that supposedly promises safety while becoming a source
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: of fear.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: A clinic obviously is supposed to offer care and recovery,
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: but Meg is entering because she suspects something went terribly wrong.
- 23:12SPEAKER_00: There's also an imbalance of power between the people receiving the treatment and
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: the people responsible for their care.
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: And of course, that makes questions about trust and control really unsettling.
- 23:23SPEAKER_00: And the characters bring their own histories with them.
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: There's trauma, addiction, grief, and complicated relationships.
- 23:29SPEAKER_00: That's another connection to our theme.
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: People can be haunted by their past without the story needing a literal ghost.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: And when I finished it,
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: I wrote that this was definitely And I love the combination of like plot
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: and character development and how much the character's flaws mattered here.
- 23:53SPEAKER_00: Very complicated people and it gave you a lot to think about.
- 23:56SPEAKER_00: And my notes described it as dark,
- 23:58SPEAKER_00: emotional,
- 23:59SPEAKER_00: mysterious, sad, because I put this all in story graph, intense with a medium pace.
- 24:04SPEAKER_00: So this is a five star recommendation from me, but it is a heavier recommendation.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: So these two books gives us different ways into the theme.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: Mexican Gothic brings us that ominous house and secretive family.
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: The Clinic brings us this institution that's isolated,
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: psychological suspense,
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: and questions about whether the people offering care can actually be trusted
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: and bolded.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: Both connect to the question running through pretty much all of the pics I had today.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: What happens when a place that should protect you becomes the place
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: that you're really afraid of?
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: So if you'd like to explore these books,
- 24:34SPEAKER_00: you can find my bookshop.org affiliate link in the show notes.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: Purchases through that link may earn me a commission at no extra cost to you.
- 24:43SPEAKER_00: Well, friends,
- 24:43SPEAKER_00: that's our little trip through gothic storytelling
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: from Agatha Raisin's ghost busting to mysterious miniatures and the secrets of Bly.
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: I hope you found something to add to your watch list and maybe your TBR too.
- 24:55SPEAKER_00: What I've enjoyed about this week is realizing how much there So
- 25:03SPEAKER_00: let
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: me know
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: which pick caught your attention.
- 25:13SPEAKER_00: Do you prefer your spooky stories with some laughs?
- 25:15SPEAKER_00: Are you heading straight for the darker bonus?
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: You can leave a comment on Substack.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: I'd love to hear your recommendations too.
- 25:21SPEAKER_00: You'll also find my sources in the show notes if you'd like to explore
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: the gothic tradition a little further.
- 25:27SPEAKER_00: And if you're joining us for Spooky Month,
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- 25:32SPEAKER_00: My $5 Cozy Fall Watchlist Tracker is also linked in the show notes
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: if you'd like somewhere to keep track of your picks.
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- 25:40SPEAKER_00: whether you're listening or sharing or joining us over on Substack.
- 25:48SPEAKER_00: Thank you for spending partying a day with me.
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: If you enjoyed this episode,
- 25:51SPEAKER_00: share it with a friend who loves British TV,
- 25:54SPEAKER_00: mysterious houses, or a good book full of secrets.
- 25:57SPEAKER_00: And until next time,
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: keep your tea warm,
- 25:59SPEAKER_00: your blanket close, and maybe leave those unexplained noises to somebody else.
- 26:04SPEAKER_00: Come for murder and stay for tea.
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