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The DiCecco Daily: Four Marquee Eagles Who've Stood Out This Summer · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
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Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of the czeck O Deli. It's
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Speaker 2: Andrew de Checko, Eagles beat reporter for insidethebirds dot Com
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Speaker 2: and I'm back in Philly. It was a arduous and
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Speaker 2: really challenging ride back from New England last night. There
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Speaker 2: was torrential downpours really throughout my entire ride until I
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Speaker 2: got to about New Jersey. Didn't end up getting back
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Speaker 2: into Philly until about one five. Now I got caught
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Speaker 2: up at the Patriots Place. I wanted to get my
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Speaker 2: observations done, want to get the podcast done. Then of
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Speaker 2: course I had to stop at some of my favorite
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Speaker 2: places in New England on the way home to make
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Speaker 2: the most of the trip, and stop at Treehouse Brewing.
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Speaker 2: Had to grab a four pack to take back home
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Speaker 2: with me because you can't get that out here. And
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Speaker 2: I stopped at Modern Pizza again on the way home
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Speaker 2: in New Haven.
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Speaker 1: Because that was of the best piece I've had.
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Speaker 2: I had that on Tuesday when I was riding up
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to grab it on the way home,
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Speaker 2: so it wasn't alike. I had a whole lot to do.
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Speaker 2: The rain was there. I tried to allow it to
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Speaker 2: dissipate a little bit. That didn't happen, but nevertheless, I'm back,
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to kind of put a bow on
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Speaker 2: joint practices and understand that while training camp in the
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Speaker 2: summer is largely about the roster and how it's shaping up,
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Speaker 2: a lot of the back end players vying for spots,
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Speaker 2: and those are the fun story lines to chronicle, when
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Speaker 2: the regular season rolls around, it's going to be about
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Speaker 2: the stars and that's going to be the determining factor
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Speaker 2: as to how the Eagles perform in twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to lose sight of that. I
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Speaker 2: want to make sure that I highlight some players that
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Speaker 2: were standout performers in New England and really all summer long.
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Speaker 2: And we'll start with one player on offense, three players
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Speaker 2: on defense, and we'll start with Saquon Barkley, who I
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Speaker 2: thought had a really strong practice, especially on Day one
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Speaker 2: where running lanes were a little bit more prevalent. He
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Speaker 2: ran with good power and burst, and I thought that
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Speaker 2: he really brings a lot of energy to practice, so
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Speaker 2: you're forcing another team to match that energy. But Saquon
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Speaker 2: Barkley is someone who probably gets taken for granted a
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Speaker 2: little bit because he's such a marquee player, you know
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Speaker 2: what you're gonna get from him. To me, he looks
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Speaker 2: like the same player that he's been throughout his time
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Speaker 2: here in Philadelphia. Really good power, has good juice, and
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Speaker 2: caught the ball well. He's caught the ball well all
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Speaker 2: summer long. He's been effective on wheel routes and good
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Speaker 2: in space. I think this new offense is really gonna
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Speaker 2: cater to some of his strengths. I think he's taken
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Speaker 2: well to it.
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Speaker 1: And he's had a good training camp.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's someone that when you watch him play
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Speaker 2: sometimes you just it's easy to lose sight of of
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Speaker 2: just how great he is and how effortless he makes
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Speaker 2: things look. But he gave the Patriots fits on day one.
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Speaker 2: On day two, running lanes were a little bit less frequent,
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Speaker 2: he got bottled up, much like Tank Biggs being will Shipley.
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Speaker 2: But he's someone that I really and I've noted this
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Speaker 2: on Inside the Birds dot com and my observations in practice,
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Speaker 2: I really admire the way that he attacks practice as
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Speaker 2: a veteran. Sometimes veterans tend to go through the motions,
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Speaker 2: and that's really in any sport, and that's not all
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Speaker 2: the time, but he goes one hundred miles an hour
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Speaker 2: at all times. He is not afraid to chirp a
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Speaker 2: little bit get after it. I thought that there was
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Speaker 2: going to be a little bit of a skirt.
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Speaker 1: Well, there was a.
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Speaker 2: Skirmish when he got tackled on a play that Lane
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Speaker 2: Johnson took exception two, and that happened on a far
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Speaker 2: field on the second day of practice.
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Speaker 1: But the way that he goes, he'll lower his shoulder.
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Speaker 2: I watched them on the last day before they left
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Speaker 2: for New England. He takes to carry to the side,
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Speaker 2: stretches it outside and lowers his shoulder on new cornerback
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Speaker 2: Isaiah Bolden.
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Speaker 1: He's done that at different points.
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Speaker 2: He lowered his shoulder on Cooper Dejunion at one point
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Speaker 2: just to remind everybody.
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Speaker 1: Who the big dog is.
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Speaker 2: And I think that that adds a lot of competitive
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Speaker 2: juices to practice. But I think Saquon Barkley's gonna have
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Speaker 2: a really big season. Everything that the Eagles do offensively,
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Speaker 2: at least in my view, is going to revolve around
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Speaker 2: the running game, and that's going to be their foundation
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Speaker 2: to a successful offense. That's you know, you look at
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Speaker 2: the different offenses in years past. When the Eagles have
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Speaker 2: really been able to move the football effectively, it's been
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Speaker 2: because of the running game, and I think having a
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Speaker 2: healthy Saquon Barkley and a healthy offensive line in front
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Speaker 2: of him really bodes well for them getting off to
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Speaker 2: a faster start offensively, even if it takes a little
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Speaker 2: bit of time for the passing game to gel and
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Speaker 2: I do expect that Saquon and that ground attack should
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Speaker 2: be able to navigate the interim while everything else kind
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Speaker 2: of falls into place. I just want to make a
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Speaker 2: mention there of Saquon Barkley because I've been impressed with
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Speaker 2: him throughout the summer and especially coming out of the
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Speaker 2: joint practices.
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Speaker 1: In New England.
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Speaker 2: Now on the defensive side, there are three players who
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Speaker 2: really caught my attention during this two day practice and
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Speaker 2: really throughout training camp. First and foremost being Jaylyx Hunt,
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Speaker 2: who was a standout performer in New England.
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Speaker 1: And I think.
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Speaker 2: While if you followed along with our coverage those of
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Speaker 2: us who cover the team regularly, that's not going to
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Speaker 2: be a surprise to any of you, But make no
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Speaker 2: mistake about it, he is the real deal, and I
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Speaker 2: think New England and their fans got a dose to
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Speaker 2: that because Jaylyox was just a disruptive presence, even more
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Speaker 2: so on day one. But he made some splash plays
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Speaker 2: on day two, and he had the force fumble where
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Speaker 2: he ripped it out of the hands of Ramandre Stevenson
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Speaker 2: recovered his own fumble. The other play was and you
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Speaker 2: probably have seen it now if you're paying attention to
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Speaker 2: X the Eagle put out the play that we've talked
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Speaker 2: about where Riek wohen is defending Aj Brown. The ball
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Speaker 2: kind of shoots out of AJ's grasp for whatever reason.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to tell from the angle, but it hangs
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Speaker 2: in the air for a while and Jay looks, Hunt
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Speaker 2: reads it, stays with it the whole way, makes an
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Speaker 2: incredible diving play. He just has natural ball skills. Obviously
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Speaker 2: that stems from his background playing safety at Cornell, But
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Speaker 2: keep in mind he hasn't played edge rusher for that long,
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Speaker 2: just really four or five years. Houston Christian is where
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Speaker 2: But before that he didn't have any experience rushing the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: You look at this player, and when he was drafted,
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Speaker 2: it was widely expected that he was going to be
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Speaker 2: a project.
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Speaker 1: That really hasn't been the case.
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Speaker 2: As a rookie, he ended up elbowing his way into
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Speaker 2: the three player rotation at edge rusher on the Super
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Speaker 2: Bowl team last year. He played a number of snaps
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Speaker 2: I don't have to rehash all that. I've talked a
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Speaker 2: lot about that, but let's talk about the here and now,
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Speaker 2: because what I've observed from Jaylox is that he is
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Speaker 2: much more refined as a pass rusher.
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Speaker 1: He has counter moves.
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Speaker 2: He's not going into any pass rush situation with the
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Speaker 2: predetermined outlook. He is able to adapt on the fly.
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Speaker 2: He gets a good feel for how offensive tackles are
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Speaker 2: playing him, and he can alter his approach based off
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Speaker 2: of that.
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Speaker 1: He has a more varied group.
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Speaker 2: Of pass rush moves in his arsenal, and I think
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Speaker 2: he's just become a very effective two way player. He
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Speaker 2: was always athletic, but now the technical refinement to his
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Speaker 2: game has caught up to the athleticism, and what you're
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Speaker 2: seeing as a player who's sort of coming into his own.
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Speaker 2: You can look at last year and say six and
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Speaker 2: a half sacks and three interceptions, twenty four quarterback hits.
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Speaker 2: That might constitute for some of you as a breakout season,
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Speaker 2: and that would be fair, but I think that he
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Speaker 2: has much more to offer. I'm not going to put
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Speaker 2: a prediction in terms of what I'm expecting from him
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Speaker 2: this year, but everything that we've seen suggests that a
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Speaker 2: full on breakthrough is going to be in the cards.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think it's hyperbole to say he's been
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Speaker 2: one of the eagles brightest stars in training camp, just
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Speaker 2: been a consistent presence each and every practice, and I
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Speaker 2: think it's important to make sure that I mentioned him
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Speaker 2: here as I have throughout the summer. The other player,
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Speaker 2: and this is important. It's someone who's going to factor
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Speaker 2: into the pass rush rotation and could take on a
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Speaker 2: more sizable role to start the year, depending on what
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Speaker 2: happens with Jonathan Garnard. If you listen to what Fake
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Speaker 2: Vangie has said, it was a little ominous. He said
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Speaker 2: he does have some concern as to whether or not
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Speaker 2: Grenard would be available for the opener. But Nolan Smith
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Speaker 2: has put together a pretty impressive training camp. I think
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Speaker 2: when you look at Nolan, you can see that he's
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Speaker 2: added definition and size to his frame, which compliments the
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Speaker 2: physical nature in which he plays the game. He's a
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Speaker 2: throwback player. He'll throw his body around. He's a violent edgsetter,
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Speaker 2: but he plays with an attitude. I think that he's
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Speaker 2: flashed a little bit as a pass rusher, even if
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Speaker 2: he hasn't necessarily gotten home with regularity.
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Speaker 1: In training camp, you can.
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Speaker 2: See the growth and the steps that he's taken in
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Speaker 2: that area of his game. And there's been a lot
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Speaker 2: of moments in training camp where yes, Jay looks Hunt's
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Speaker 2: been the standout, and I think it's important that no
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Speaker 2: one doesn't get lost in this because he's also quietly
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Speaker 2: had a good camp. He is someone that I'm expecting
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Speaker 2: to take on a much larger role this year, perhaps
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Speaker 2: even more as a leader, and.
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Speaker 1: He's healthy. That's what's most important.
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Speaker 2: He's healthy this summer and it just seems like everything's
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Speaker 2: starting to come together for him. I'm very much looking
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Speaker 2: forward to seeing what the twenty twenty six season has
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Speaker 2: for him, and in New England, we'll try to keep
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Speaker 2: it current here in New England. I thought that that
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Speaker 2: he really brought it there was you know, he's not
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Speaker 2: afraid to stick his nose in there. He's not afraid
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Speaker 2: to get after it and really bring the intensity. He
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Speaker 2: will stick up for his teammates take exception to things.
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Speaker 2: I just think that he's growing into a little bit
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Speaker 2: more of a leadership role and that can come in
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Speaker 2: different forms.
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Speaker 1: You don't necessarily always have to be vocal.
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Speaker 2: You can lead by example, you can lead with your
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Speaker 2: style of play on the field, And with Nolan, I
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Speaker 2: just get the sense that he understands that Jelyox has
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Speaker 2: really taken advantage of his opportunities.
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Speaker 1: Grenard's here.
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Speaker 2: They traded for Jalen Phillips last year, and he's battled injuries.
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Speaker 2: I think that there's a sense of urgency there with Nolan,
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Speaker 2: at least that's just my perception of it, based off
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Speaker 2: of how he's playing, how he's carrying himself this year,
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Speaker 2: and I think he's going.
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Speaker 1: To have a big season as well.
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Speaker 2: Maybe not to the degree of a jay loox Hunt,
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Speaker 2: but the Eagles are equipped to handle the interim if
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Grenard is not ready for Week one because of
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Speaker 2: what I've seen from jay Loox Hunt and Nolan Smith,
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Speaker 2: and also to a lesser degree, Arnold Abacaty and aj Epinessa.
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Speaker 2: Ebiccady is someone who's flying under the radar a little bit.
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Speaker 1: He stood out to me.
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Speaker 2: Number seventeen has entered my notebook on more than a
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Speaker 2: few occasions. He set the edge well, he has some
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Speaker 2: good juice. Epinessa is learning on the fly to do
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Speaker 2: some different things that he hasn't been asked to do
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Speaker 2: in his career. But the sense that I get from
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Speaker 2: listening to Fic Fangio speak about him is that he's
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Speaker 2: coming along nicely. He's encouraged with what he's seen from him,
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Speaker 2: and epinessa gives you a different dimension, a different body
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Speaker 2: type from that position, So I think they have enough
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Speaker 1: Twenty one and up.
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Speaker 2: As we close things out, and this player is someone
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Speaker 2: who is an all pro, so he shouldn't be sneaking
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Speaker 2: up on anyone. But I had not only thought that
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Speaker 2: Zach Bond had a really good set of joint practices
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Speaker 2: in New England, but I also think that he's had
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Speaker 2: a really nice training camp, one that flies under the
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Speaker 2: radar a little bit. But when you talk about Zach Bond,
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Speaker 2: you're talking about the complete linebacker, and I think that
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Speaker 2: a lot of what Pick Fangio looks for is exactly
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Speaker 2: the Zach Bond's the prototype. Smart, instinctual, physical, tough and
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Speaker 2: can not only play the run effectively, he can rush
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Speaker 2: the quarterback if you need him to. And his range
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Speaker 2: in space really shows itself on those wheel routes. There
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Speaker 2: was one in New England where they tested him down
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Speaker 2: the far sideline with Ramandre Stevenson. Zach Bond ran with
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Speaker 2: him step for step, made a play on it to
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Speaker 2: break up the pass. And I think that when you
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Speaker 2: look at that, yes the range is impressive, it illustrates
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Speaker 2: the well roundedness of his game. But he also was
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Speaker 2: very physical and active in run support.
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Speaker 1: He was someone who was sniffing out things.
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Speaker 2: He brings an attitude to the defense where you can
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Speaker 2: see not saying it's chippiness, but you can see it
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Speaker 2: reflected in whether or not it's Trayvion Henderson who's taking
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Speaker 2: an outside run and Zach Bond's swarming onto the scene
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Speaker 2: to give him a nice thud out of bounds, or
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Speaker 2: whether it's some kind of friendlier banter where the Eagles
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Speaker 2: are doing this, uh, this catch circuit where you have
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Speaker 2: a defender standing behind an offensive player. They toss the
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Speaker 2: offensive player of the ball and they kind of run
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Speaker 2: through the gamut.
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Speaker 1: Well, there was one rep maybe ten days ago. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Everything kind of runs together now, but.
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Speaker 2: Zach Bond's going against Britain Covey, and he shoves Covey
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Speaker 2: before the play, before the the his rep officially begins,
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Speaker 2: and then when Covey catches it and turns up field,
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Speaker 2: Bond's waiting for him and delivers a nice thud, taking
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Speaker 2: Covey to the ground.
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Speaker 1: And it was playful.
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Speaker 2: Of course, their their their friends, their teammates. Britain Covey
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Speaker 2: is one of the more beloved players on the team.
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Speaker 2: He just has an affable personality. But that's what Zach
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Speaker 2: Bond brings, and he's kind of a tone setter in
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Speaker 2: a lot of ways. But we talk so much about
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Trotter Junior. What's Jehad Campbell gonna do in year two?
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Speaker 2: Why was he playing in the opener? And all those
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Speaker 2: things are very important, but let's not lose sight of
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Speaker 2: the fact that Zach Vaughn is a damn good football
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Speaker 2: player who has in every practice sort of risen to
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Speaker 2: his reputation of an all Pro where he will make
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Speaker 2: a play each practice that reminds you that this is
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Speaker 2: one of the great stories around the NFL. Vic Vangaio
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Speaker 2: saw in him that he could be an effective off
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Speaker 2: ball linebacker, and when you see him really just refine
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Speaker 2: elements of his game. He was really a special team
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Speaker 2: or an edge rusher with the Saints, but in Philadelphia
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Speaker 2: he's become just a premier player as an off ball linebacker.
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Speaker 2: And in New England, I saw an active player who
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Speaker 2: was rangy around the second level, who was sticking his
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Speaker 2: nose in there and really having a really good beat
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Speaker 2: on what the Patriots were trying to do in terms
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Speaker 2: of their run game.
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Speaker 1: Just a smart player. And I know.
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Speaker 2: That that's kind of know that goes without saying. It's
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Speaker 2: important for me to reiterate that because this is the
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Speaker 2: time of year where it's all about who's going to
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Speaker 2: make the fifty three, who's on the bubble, who's a sleeper.
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Speaker 2: But the players that I just mentioned have all had
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Speaker 2: really good training camps, and for me, it felt really
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Speaker 2: important for me to reiterate that and kind of go
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Speaker 2: back and give you a synopsis of what I've observed
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Speaker 2: from them throughout training camp. And I know that they're
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Speaker 2: not going to get a ton of work here in
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Speaker 2: the coming weeks, but they're going to be hugely critical
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Speaker 2: to the success of the twenty twenty six Eagles, needless
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Speaker 2: to say. And there is sort of an overview of
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Speaker 2: what I've observed from them, not only in Foxborough but
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Speaker 2: throughout the entirety of training camp. And that's the value
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Speaker 2: of being able to see them every day. You have
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Speaker 2: context and you're able to see the progression throughout the summer.
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Speaker 2: And with that, that's going to do it for this
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Speaker 2: episode of to check Odaily. I'm Andrew to Checko and
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Speaker 2: I'll catch you all on the next one.