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Cubs fall, Gold Glove in MLB, US Open preview, Brent Blum talks about NIL & Collectives in the new NCAA environment · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon on
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  a Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network back for another 6 hour
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  block of Iowa based programming. Here's what's coming up with
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  Trent Condon and myself, Ken Miller as we take you up until
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  2:00. At the bottom of the hour, we
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  will get things underway on the program with Brent Bloom.
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  Looking forward to catching up with Brent Bloom, the executive
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  director. I want to say I hope I'm not
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  giving him a title that's unworthy of his spot, but of we
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  will and what's Iowa State going to do?
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  And what was the We will collective?
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  What, what does this change, if anything?
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  Let the record reflect. We reached out to Brad Heinrichs
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  as well, and he's unavailable this week but promised to join
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  us next week. So we'll, I'll do the same with
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  Heinrich at some point next week, but Brent Bloom is going
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  to join us, our only guest in our number one look forward to
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  catching up with Brent. What do we see?
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  Is this the I mean, do you sense we're heading back to the bag
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  man? Well, it's interesting because
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  you put it that way and a few things that I've read, one
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  comment in particular from Greg Sankey, the SEC commissioner,
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  saying you wanted guardrails, this is what we wanted.
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  You as coaches, this is what you wanted.
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  We're going to follow the rules now.
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  I hope so, that is. How do they enforce it?
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  Well, the enforcement staff now has subpoena power, something
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  that the NCAA did not have. That is going to be probably the
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  biggest change when it comes to this.
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  Will Wade, the strong ass offer. All the different things in the
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  maturations that we heard in college basketball.
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  He didn't. There was no subpoena power.
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  He didn't have to hand over his phone.
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  Now the hope is, the belief is. Turn over his phone and keep the
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  burner phone in his back pocket. That that is going to be
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  something that they're going to be able to.
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  Have, I hope so, Trent. I'm, I'm anxious to see how
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  they're able to enforce it 'cause I think, I hate to say
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  it, but it seems like we're headed down the road path of the
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  wild, Wild West yet again. We'll see where it goes, but
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  your points spot on. Wandered enforcement.
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  Here you go. Now enforce it.
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  And another component to that is Pete Thamel with Now with ESPN,
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  he brought it up and kind of equated it to this.
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  You know, we had one year a bounty gate and a guy lost his
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  job because of it. And a lot of people lost their
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  jobs, lost their credibility because the NFL came down hard
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  on that. That's what the NCAA needs to
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  do. That's what this new enforcement
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  wing needs to do Whatever first breaking the rules.
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  Not to the school, but to the actual coach, to yes, the
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  coaches that are involved in. It because if you see your
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  brethren, it's not a slap on the wrist.
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  It's not a last of scholarship or a couple of official visits.
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  No, this is real. You are going to be impacted
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  severely. You are going to be.
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  So therefore, the a DS, you would like to think if they, if
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  they do appreciate what their head coach is doing for them,
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  would try to keep them under their thumb because they won't
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  have a say in the I mean, if they're caught and found guilty
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  and they're lose their gig, I don't really want to fire them.
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  We're 10 and 2. There's a wink and a nudge and
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  yeah, do what you need to to win games.
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  Those days would be over. If.
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  The enforcement staff actually does that.
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  Going to be unbelievably fascinating to see where we go.
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  We will go to the NFL in segment #2 want to start with not, not a
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  ton of time, but we'll spend 6 or 8 minutes on the Green Bay
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  Packers. I Eric's Alexander before we
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  morph into more NFL conversation because we really haven't done
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  that over the last, I don't know, a month or so.
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  We've been busy doing other things.
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  We'll do a little NFL segment today.
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  And then Matt Poston's, I guess was ask Matt, though, you know
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  how he foresees the enforcement as he covers the Big 12 for
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  Heartland College Sports and that postings will be here at
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  125 trends plays of the day, baseball heavy tonight, although
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  there are a couple of WNBA games, the Fever getting 5 as
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  they head to Atlanta and the Sky.
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  And by the way, I got a little Mia culpa here.
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  The ratings for The Fever and the Sky from Saturday night on
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  CBS have been released. Not as gloom and doom as I
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  thought that they were going to be. 1.92 million people watched
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  the game knowing in advance that she wasn't going to play.
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  Now what does CBS normally get on a Saturday?
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  Great question, great question. I don't know because I don't
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  watch. Because if that was on ESPN,
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  that'd be incredible. That was on CBS Sports Network,
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  Ryan or many of the other television partners a a
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  broadcast network on a Saturday night.
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  What do they normally? Get what do they normally?
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  Get fair, fair question, Trent. And I think there needs to be a
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  little more digging into those numbers before on the surface
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  level. Oh yeah, that's good, because on
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  the surface it is it. Seems good, yeah.
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  Yes, with the WNBA. And the game was awful.
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  It was. The game was awful.
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  I I don't get it. Nor do I.
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  It's AI have maybe a blind spot there as it comes to that sport
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  and that superstar, yes. She's not.
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  It's not very good basketball. No, she's terrible dressed as
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  the part. I mean, showed up with a Big
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  Muff hat on. You know, I think that's what
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  those are called. It's June, but you know, you're
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  making a statement and, and she did before the game.
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  Then she went out and got 4 points, 4 lot of rebounds, lot
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  of no no me bounds. Five of those.
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  Five me bounds anyways but but Mia couple 1.92 but transport.
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  I'd love to know what normally CBS on a on a Saturday night.
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  That's not a place you find yourself normally, no, but.
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  It's not since I'm in the, I guess, mood to little Mia culpa
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  here and little egg over my face.
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  And I've said this for a long time, I think.
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  Kyle Tucker's Hellman outfielder, yeah.
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  Maybe you felt he's a little overrated as a?
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  Defender maybe? I thought that yesterday.
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  I thought he was a waste of money.
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  What a game. I thought for if they would have
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  won the game and he would have kept it going, it would maybe be
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  known as the Kyle Tucker game. Hits a home run, Just crushed a
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  home run in the first inning. 1 Nothing Cubbies.
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  It was the 6:00 and he had already made you look like an
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  idiot. Home run comes a fire, and that
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  was a Butte, wasn't. It boy, I'll say in a great tag,
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  I think it was Horner. It was either Horner Swanson
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  that applied the tag, but Kyle Tucker had a night last night,
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  both at the plate in the outfield.
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  And and this is that, you know, twisted the night front of the
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  salted wood. This that's what this is.
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  But I, I do wonder you watch as much baseball as anybody I know.
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  And it's not just a team. It's you watch baseball.
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  You're a huge baseball fan. If you had a vote for Gold
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  Glove, because that's the topic that we had yesterday, you got
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  to vote for gold, how would you measure it?
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  You know, would you go in and look at catch probability, those
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  kind of statistical profiles, the deeper analytics like you
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  mentioned there, you know how how much would go buy the eye
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  test? Assists.
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  Because the reason that Tucker's bothered you a couple of times.
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  He misplayed balls in the outfield.
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  He takes bad routes. Is that equated, you know, in
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  these metrics? Apparently one year it wasn't
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  because I can't believe you just picked up this bad habit.
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  Is it a metric that's so deep that even the voters don't even?
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  Look at that, I wonder. But you mentioned that radius,
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  well, if you take a bad route, your radius is going to be a lot
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  bigger, right? It takes a lot longer to get
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  there. Maybe that's something that
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  increased that metric for for Kyle Tucker.
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  I just wondered because it is something that you've brought up
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  and I've seen the same thing, especially when you brought it
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  up like, hey, right, you know, this is a Gold Glover and he's
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  that. But the arm that's tremendous.
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  He has that. And I would assume, and it's
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  just an assumption that a lot of voters, and it's certainly for
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  something that's a little more difficult to quantify, like an
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  outfield rating and certainly a corner outfield rating.
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  The dude's got a strong arm look.
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  He threw out 15 guys this year. He's going to get my vote if
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  it's just as simple as that for a voter.
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  Yep, I agree with you. We'll see where it goes.
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  But boy, he was really good yesterday.
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  What's he going to command? Is he is his salary going to
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  start with A5? I don't see I it's just crazy
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  that we're even talking like this.
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  Right. Once.
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  So do you get it? You get it with 1.
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  So it obviously has not worked at that level, but you certainly
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  understand it what the youth. Was going to say he's just
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  important as anything. Kyle Tucker.
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  Now here's another mea culpa coming for me.
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  The first month of the season, I said I didn't realize.
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  I knew the numbers. I didn't realize he was such a
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  good baseball player. He's a lot better baseball
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  player. Well, how many times you watch
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  the Houston Astros go out of your way, right?
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  The players playoffs are playing the Twins.
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  That's kind of what it was and that was it.
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  Knew he was a good guy, knew he was a good player, didn't
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  realize he was superstar type level or at least the fringes of
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  superstardom. But then you get into that and
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  you're saying how old is Tucker, 27/28/28 with him?
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  Are you commanding those stretched out contracts now that
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  are becoming the 14 years usually?
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  Some of most of them have an opt out. 12 years, $500 million for
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  Kyle Tucker, right? I just, maybe it's a mental
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  block by me. I can't get there.
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  I'm with you now. I also root for a team that is
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  never going to be swimming in those waters.
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  Who's who's the guy on the Twins roster that's going to come
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  close to that? A young player that's about to
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  break the bank. Well, we thought it was going to
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  be Royce. We did.
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  It's not. It's not.
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  It's not at this point. Getting better.
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  He's still a long ways to. Go Yeah, I agree.
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  There's nobody at that kind of realm that you would point to
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  and say he's going to command that kind of salary.
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  No, I I don't think so either. Well, it's been going to be a
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  big night of baseball here tonight is that's essentially.
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  All we have. And I'm not going to watch the
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  WNBA tonight without Caitlin's heart.
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  I just can't do it without her. I really can't.
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  I'm all in when she's there. But.
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  That first game that she didn't play, I just want to see what
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  they. Yeah, I did too.
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  I but I didn't linger. By any means.
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  Yeah, the intrigue kind of where I took a peek.
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  And I took a peek and went back. And it's what we talked about
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  too with this league. It's just not aesthetically
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  pleasing. It's not a.
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  Functioning is so bad, so bad the.
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  Physical play, yeah, and grabbing the clutching and.
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  Carrington, did you see her pull that gal's pony for the other
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  day? I mean, come on.
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  Anyways, Thursday is the start of the US Open.
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  Trent, I can't remember a golf tournament that I was looking
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  more forward to. Really.
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  Major. I mean.
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  The Masters comes around, it's kind of the official beginning
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  of winters behind us. They cut down the Nets in
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  basketball on we go to summer, right.
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  And and the and the Masters is kind of that kind of that box
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  that you checked. Oh gosh, we made it.
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  So for that reason and the golf course, Augusta is Augusta and
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  it's always pristine, But this is different.
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  This just has a feel of we're going to see a test maybe that
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  we haven't seen in a long time. There is no way I OK, I
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  shouldn't say that I would be shocked if whoever wins this
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  tournament about 6:00 on Sunday afternoon is more than five
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  under par. I just, that's how I feel.
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  I think that this tournament is going to be a bear.
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  I think that this tournament and this golf course are going to
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  maybe not embarrass some pros, but make us realize, you know,
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  just a how good they are and how tough it is to tame this
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  incredibly difficult golf course.
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  So it's been there three times the US Open.
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  I think the scores, I'm doing this by memory, but I don't
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  recall the years. The first time it was there, the
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  the winning score was 6 under. The second time it was there
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  early this century was 5 over par.
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  And then the last time it was there, it was 5 under par. 404
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  hundred. Yeah, that was DJ.
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  Oh, that was DJ so relative. So like 2016?
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  2016 Yep, 16 was the last time that it was there.
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  A couple of things is here. Who won it with an over par
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  score? It was some stiff.
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  Yeah, I just have, I have the 16 leader board here in front of
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  me. But yeah, it was kind of a guy
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  deeper down the list. I should say Stiff.
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  He's a pro, yeah. But you want AUS Open.
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  That's stiff. Yeah.
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  The leader board, A couple of things jumped out to me.
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  Jim Furek, he finished second. He was in a tie with Shane
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  Lowry. Probably have him part of your
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  card. I do.
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  And Scott Pearcy, a ho hum down the middle.
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  Not a long hitter. Also in the top 10.
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  Kevin Nah got a long hitter. So keep it in the middle of the
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  fairway and you can. Score Zach Johnson.
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  Where was he in this tournament? He finished eighth.
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  It was 2 over. Daniel Summerhay is another guy
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  from a ways back. He had one good round.
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  This is not, at least in the past, things change and there
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  has been an update to Oman. But this is a course that in the
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  past, you don't have to be a bomber.
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  Keep it straight. One of the most incredible
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  things that I found as I started doing my research for the week
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  was getting up and down, getting up and down.
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  You missed the green. Get up and down proposition for
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  most PGA players is, you know, well north of 65% getting up and
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  down for par. What is it at this tournament?
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  The last time out eight years ago, nine years ago it was 10 of
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  the 18 holes had a percentage under 40% getting up and down.
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  These are those tabletop greens. Another component that is
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  different than almost any other golf course is your shot into
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  the green. More times than that is going to
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  end up 4050 sixty feet past where you initially hit it.
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  So it's kind of got a little Open Championship feel to it.
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  Bang, absolutely. That is a great way to look at
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  it. And certainly the approaches
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  where you're going to have to run the ball, you're going to,
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  it's not plug it up there. You're not going hunting flags.
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  No, that is not the way that this golf course plays.
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  This is not the way that these greens play.
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  Getting up and down for me is at the top of my list this week
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  ahead of even driving accuracy, getting up and down, guys that
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  are doing that at a high level. So we'll put that into my
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  system. I don't have a system, but I
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  will take a look at those numbers because I've kind of
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  zeroing in on my plays this week and I'll have those ready for
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  tomorrow. I I did mine where I sent you
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  the script for our media com show.
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  So I looked I did that last night watching stuff because the
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  hockey game. So I'll get to that in a second.
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  Yeah, if, if you're, if you're an Oiler fan and I'm rooting for
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  Edmonton. Did you bet?
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  Will you bet, Rory? I will not, you won't.
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  He is a cross off. What's wrong with him?
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  Do you think that he's he's got his?
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  He's going to be in a little B. He kind of is, isn't he?
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  Is he is. He kind of lost his drive.
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  I mean, he finally got his majors, his career Grand Slam,
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  The one thing that eluded him. And now that he's that, he's got
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  that he just, I don't deserve. The drive's been there, Trent.
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  I think that's a fairway to look at it.
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  I think we've seen this for other athletes in different
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  realms. When you hit that apex, I
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  remember years ago I was reading John Mcenroe's autobiography,
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  which is incredible. And just even if you're not a
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  tennis fan, he's just such a character, obviously.
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  And he talked about that. He talked about it was for him
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  getting to #1 getting for note and the drive that it took.
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  He wasn't the most talented guy, but to get to that level and
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  then he got there, it's. Fun to watch though.
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  Oh God, he was. Or listen to.
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  But once he got there, he thought there was going to be,
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  you know, confetti flying. There's going to be this.
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  And it wasn't, it's just, OK, you did it.
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  There's a tournament coming up next week.
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  Now you're #1 go prove it. There wasn't that common.
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  And maybe that would because Rory, for McEnroe, it was just
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  building, building, building. And he got there within a few
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  years. For Rory, this has been almost a
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  decade of waiting for that moment.
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  And then he got there. Nothing changed.
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  No, nothing changed other than the.
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  Fact that you know he checked a a personal box.
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  But that was it. His life didn't change one iota
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  because. There's one major championship.
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  Right. He has known everywhere he goes.
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  Is that more known? No.
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  Because he didn't get a bigger house.
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  He can't right? They ran out of land on the
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  place. You should see his house.
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  And it's something that hadn't crossed my mind, but I think you
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  absolutely nailed something that it makes sense the.
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  Motivation doesn't seem to be there for I'm betting them all.
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  That's all. That said, I'm going to because
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  he's, I mean, you won't see a price like this on Rory's.
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  He's double digits. I mean, Scheffler's always going
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  to be tonight, always. But for the foreseeable future,
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  he's unbedtable. He truly is unbedtable.
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  What's his price right now? Can you get?
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  4 to one on him. I bet you can't.
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  At Circa, which is the best price that I have seen?
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  Usually for golf it is. Scheffler's plus 290.
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  De Chambo plus 7:30 and the third betting choice is the
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  first ticket that I made. What is it?
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  John ROM Rom's live this week and you have been trying to talk
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  me into it for the last year. Plus you.
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  Know and I left them off the card this week.
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  I didn't use them. This is the week, huh?
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  I didn't include them. I I know the way the last what
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  four holes went at the PGA. He looks different.
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  He he seems different mentally. That's the guy that's still
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  competing at a high level. His game wasn't quite there
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  going into the Masters. Former number ones he was a #1.
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  I didn't think his game was there going to the Masters,
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  that's why I couldn't get there and what we saw, a couple of
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  blips that he had leading in the PGA, that's why it wasn't on
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  him. I think he is rounding into
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  form. And what's his price?
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  12 to 1, so better than you can get or a lower price than it is
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  in Rory. Rory's plus 1450 and then he get
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  into Xander at 18 to 1. Morikawa, 22 to one Goldberg, 23
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  to one What's Tommy Fleetwood, 32 to one You're going to hit
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  one time on golf Jesus, aren't you?
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  All right, from Golf Jesus to Mick Jesus and his Edmonton
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  Oilers, Florida's just a better team.
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  And Florida's is dragging Edmonton to play their style of
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  game. And that's not what the Oilers
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  want to do. Florida wants to take you into
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  the corner, put a glove, the palm of your glove, and God,
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  they stink into your face and, and, and rub it in there.
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  They want to slash the back of your skates.
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  They want to cross check you knowing that you're going to
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  retaliate at some point. And you know what always
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  happens? They get the second guy, not the
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  first guy. And Edmonton could not stay out
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  of the penalty box last night and Stewart Skinner looked like
• 18:45
  bad Stewart Skinner on a lot of the goals last night.
• 18:49
  And, and I, I hate to say it, 'cause I want it to go to the
• 18:53
  north of the border one of these years.
• 18:55
  Now I've got a, I've got a city picked out where I'd like it to
• 18:58
  go to. And then it started.
• 19:01
  Not Calgary. Not Vancouver.
• 19:03
  You know what? Toronto, Montreal, Nope, Nope,
• 19:05
  not those. But anyways, regardless of that,
• 19:08
  I think Florida's going to win it.
• 19:09
  I again, and we've said it going in that they look like the best
• 19:12
  team to meet and they look like the best team and especially if
• 19:16
  they can drag the Oilers into the mud with them and that's
• 19:20
  what they did and that's the seemingly the way that this
• 19:23
  thing is going to go. I would be surprised if
• 19:26
  Edmonton's able to come back. Look, they did last year.
• 19:29
  They couldn't quite seal the deal, but man, it's here.
• 19:31
  Seems like we're headed to maybe game, maybe 5, maybe 6, but we
• 19:37
  shall see. Is it time to pull the plug on
• 19:40
  Stewart Skinner? Yes, I wondered.
• 19:42
  I wonder what they're going to do on Thursday.
• 19:44
  Picard played the They pulled Skinner last night.
• 19:46
  Picard came in. I think he gave up one.
• 19:48
  He did? Yep.
• 19:49
  But I think. He 7 saves and eight.
• 19:51
  Is that what it was? Yep.
• 19:52
  So I think you have to go back. Boy, the game got a little
• 19:54
  nasty. Did you see all the the stuff
• 19:56
  with you now that looked like old school Hawk?
• 19:58
  Oh yeah, I I was old time. I was checked out at that.
• 20:00
  Point were you Yeah, the only reason I stuck there just to see
• 20:03
  if the boys would get a little nasty and they.
• 20:06
  Did and you like? Yeah, I do.
• 20:08
  I do. Let's get Jeff real quick and
• 20:10
  then we will talk to Brent Bloom.
• 20:13
  Brent Bloom from We will. What does this do for for we
• 20:16
  will. What does this do for Iowa State
• 20:18
  is a business as usual. Does he think the bagman is not,
• 20:21
  I'm not saying it's an Iowa State.
• 20:23
  I'm does he is he saying that they're believe that the bagman
• 20:26
  is going to make an appearance? We go back to the wild, Wild
• 20:29
  West Bloom on that coming up at the bottom of the hour, Jeff
• 20:33
  joins us. Hi, Jeff.
• 20:33
  How are you? Doing well first thing, Oakmont.
• 20:38
  This is the 10th U.S. Open at Oakmont.
• 20:41
  Just off the top, I had some of the winners, Ernie Ells, Jack,
• 20:45
  Ben Hogan on Hell, Cabrera and then DJ.
• 20:49
  That's five. But this is the 10th time here
• 20:51
  at the Oakmont. You know, going in, you know,
• 20:53
  you talked about Rory. His driver is a big time
• 20:56
  problem. He tried to switch golfer heads
• 21:01
  at Bay Hill. He was spraying the ball lights
• 21:03
  crazy. He brought back that old driver
• 21:05
  before it got tested. He did his thing at the Masters,
• 21:09
  he's talked about it going into the Canadian Open.
• 21:12
  He has no idea where his drivers going #1 #2 he's talked about it
• 21:18
  at his presser. This is out there, people listen
• 21:20
  to his presser. He does not want to grind
• 21:23
  anymore. That's the biggest thing in
• 21:25
  golf. He does not want to put in the
• 21:27
  hours. He doesn't want to go to the
• 21:28
  range and spend multiple hours at the range to work on his
• 21:31
  game. He's content on what he's doing,
• 21:33
  which is totally fine. Not knocking him, I'm not
• 21:37
  knocking him on that, but if you want to be at the all time,
• 21:39
  great. If you want to be at the same
• 21:41
  level as Scotty, you have to be out there wanting to compete and
• 21:45
  want to grind. And right now he doesn't want to
• 21:48
  do that. So Ken, if you want to, if you
• 21:50
  want to throw some money on Rory, that's absolutely fine.
• 21:52
  But right now? I.
• 21:55
  I feel like they're throwing it away kind of, but moving on.
• 21:58
  Couple of the guys on Liv, John ROM and I get it, it's Liv and
• 22:02
  I'm not a big Liv guy. We don't need to get into that,
• 22:04
  but he's made 21 top 10s in a row on Liv since he's been
• 22:07
  there. Hasn't won this year on Liv, but
• 22:09
  the high is consistent. We've watched them the last two
• 22:12
  majors. Jon ROM, we've talked about
• 22:14
  Dechambeau. Joaquin Neiman has won four
• 22:17
  times on Lib. Again, I don't really care about
• 22:19
  Lib, but when you're winning, you're winning.
• 22:21
  He's coming into the US Open. If his ball flight is is putting
• 22:25
  their time will tell. But again, we talked, I think
• 22:28
  Trent said this earlier, I love Colin doesn't hit the ball
• 22:32
  really typically the bomber, but he hits fairways and he's a
• 22:35
  pretty good putter. He could be a choice down the
• 22:37
  list, but the US Open, if you look at the scores, Ken kind of
• 22:41
  touched on this to start to show.
• 22:43
  It could be, I don't know, even par going into Sunday plus 1 -,
• 22:47
  1 going into Sunday. So if someone who likes to watch
• 22:51
  golf and doesn't want to see a birdie fest, this is the course
• 22:54
  of you. You guys have a good day.
• 22:56
  Yeah, thank you. Jeff, I'm with you.
• 22:57
  I don't want to see the John Deere Classic.
• 22:59
  No, I don't want to see 22 on. Right.
• 23:01
  Don't you want to see 10 under? No, I don't and I think that
• 23:04
  we're going to be rewarded this week because I I I find it hard
• 23:08
  to believe that it's even going to get close to this.
• 23:10
  All right, coming up in the second hour of the program, I'm
• 23:12
  going to talk about a new betting market when it comes to
• 23:15
  the NFL and I love it. I've never heard of it before
• 23:19
  and circa is offering they're calling the protector of the
• 23:22
  year. They have come up with a list of
• 23:27
  offensive lineman. Have you heard of anything like
• 23:30
  this before? No.
• 23:32
  You can bet on who the now how? This is the debut of the NFL.
• 23:37
  The NFL has never awarded this. This will be the first.
• 23:39
  So this is a new trophy. This is a new.
• 23:42
  So the NFL is it's good, yes. And because it's a new trophy, a
• 23:47
  new award from the NFL, you're gonna be allowed to bet on it.
• 23:51
  So if you like you, you went to Iowa, you're a Hawkeye fan.
• 23:54
  You love watching Tristan, Tristan Wurfs Dominate or Linda
• 23:58
  Bomb or some of these dudes. Wurfs is 11 to one to be the
• 24:02
  protector of the year. Linderbaum is 40 to 1.
• 24:06
  I, I think this is a great idea. Why not give these guys in the
• 24:09
  trenches a little love? You can bet the Outland, right?
• 24:13
  Why not Protector of the year? Now that name kind of sucks.
• 24:16
  Now is it is protector? No, that's that's Proctor I'm.
• 24:21
  Thinking. Proctor, no Proctor and Gamble
• 24:23
  Proctor. I thought maybe Proctor had put
• 24:25
  a sponsorship on it. Don't give them ideas.
• 24:28
  Yeah. You know what, Trent?
• 24:30
  Excellent point. Work on the name.
• 24:31
  Yes, Yeah. Come up with something better.
• 24:33
  Protector of the year, even offensive lineman of the year is
• 24:37
  better than protector. Right.
• 24:39
  Because I, I would like to think that whoever wins this award is
• 24:42
  going to do some, you know, open up some holes in the run game.
• 24:44
  I've always dreamed of being protector of the Year.
• 24:47
  Yeah, play in the backyard. I switch positions.
• 24:51
  I will take a time out. Brent Bloom is going to join us
• 24:54
  from We Will next. What does this mean for We will,
• 24:57
  if anything, Bloom next. Miller and Condon underway into
• 25:00
  Tuesdays, the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 25:08
  Hi, Mallory Congon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 25:11
  Trenton Ken with you until 2O clock just before AT2O clock the
• 25:15
  drive, Heather Lucas back on the drive today from 2:00 until 5.
• 25:20
  Brent Bloom is the executive director of the We Will
• 25:23
  Collective and he joins us to help us out with the house
• 25:26
  settlement. What this means, what this means
• 25:28
  for collectives going forward. His college athletics about to
• 25:32
  return to the wild. Wild West is the bag man, not
• 25:35
  the boogeyman, the bag man going to come out from hiding and be a
• 25:38
  part of this. And Brent joins us.
• 25:39
  Hello, Brent, Bloom, Trent and Ken, how are you?
• 25:43
  Good to talk to you guys. I'm great.
• 25:44
  It's the Sun is out here on a Tuesday.
• 25:46
  Yeah, you can't beat it. Still enjoy today because I
• 25:49
  guess it's going away. So I guess Brent, I know well,
• 25:52
  I'd like to stay in my lane and and I like to, you know, pine on
• 25:55
  games and, you know, speculate and those type of things.
• 25:59
  And this is way out of the over the tips of my skis.
• 26:01
  So I'll just ask you to you this, what concerns you in in
• 26:05
  your field, you know, heading up a collective, what concerns you
• 26:09
  about this house settlement? Yeah, I think more than anything
• 26:13
  in the short term is just the confusion in general for fans
• 26:16
  and donors. I mean, honestly, like it's it's
• 26:18
  hard enough for people in the industry and fans and owners
• 26:22
  like what do you want me to do? I'm like, honestly, it's like
• 26:24
  one day at a time here. So.
• 26:27
  So I think every at least the settlement passing on Friday is
• 26:31
  huge progress because it allows everyone to go forward with
• 26:35
  plans that they've been making now for nine months.
• 26:38
  That is with revenue sharing directly from the university.
• 26:41
  It at least gives everyone some clarity of it.
• 26:43
  And on July 1, universities can pay student athletes, which kind
• 26:48
  of it helps everybody understand all right now what happens to
• 26:51
  collectives and that's the next step.
• 26:53
  And you know, it's kind of play it by ear for now.
• 26:55
  I would say majority of collective guys will still
• 26:57
  exist. The We Will collective will
• 27:00
  exist at least through the end of the year as we kind of
• 27:02
  navigate all of these things. But most now will transition
• 27:06
  from straight up pay to play, direct fundraising to more of a
• 27:11
  marketing type agency where they're finding legit NIL deals
• 27:15
  for athletes at their institution.
• 27:17
  And that's going to be the new arms race.
• 27:19
  So we've gone from coaches contracts and facilities to
• 27:22
  straight up NIL to now it's going to be these collectives as
• 27:26
  marketing agencies to coordinate with local businesses, brands
• 27:29
  that will pass the muster test for this new clearing house.
• 27:32
  And that's the next wave of this arms race.
• 27:35
  Nil go. That is is what it's going to be
• 27:38
  deemed and this is what you're going to have to go through
• 27:40
  because you got Bar X. They want to have an Iowa State
• 27:45
  athlete that's going to be their spokesman and they're going to
• 27:47
  do 100 radio commercials and we're going to pay him for those
• 27:50
  100 radio commercials and to come in and record a 32nd spot,
• 27:53
  $2,000,000. And then Algo is going to say
• 27:56
  no, no, no, no, no. How concerning is that?
• 27:59
  How concerning when you see that.
• 28:00
  End. So they set the market.
• 28:02
  They set the market and just go down that path.
• 28:06
  Kind of explain what you know about nil.
• 28:08
  Go, yeah, yeah. So I'll try again.
• 28:11
  And this is I'm not an attorney at all and there's going to be a
• 28:13
  lawsuit. So this just takes us for as
• 28:15
  just a simple guy here in Des Moines.
• 28:18
  But in essence, this clearing house will be able to determine
• 28:22
  if it's a legit NIL deal with business purpose or not.
• 28:26
  And so all of these schools guys in the last couple of months had
• 28:29
  to submit a list of essentially any transaction that that
• 28:33
  they've made in NIL through their collective or their
• 28:36
  university over the last three years.
• 28:39
  And they have to report, is that a business?
• 28:41
  Is it an associated entity or not?
• 28:44
  Meaning if you're Gatorade or you're Nike, most likely that
• 28:48
  will still be allowed over the top of the salary cap because
• 28:51
  they couldn't technically give it to anybody.
• 28:54
  But for an Iowa State example, you know, Snook up Manufacturing
• 28:58
  would be considered an associated entity of Iowa State
• 29:00
  due to their close connection to Iowa State.
• 29:03
  So an NIL deal from Snook up Manufacturing, manufacturing get
• 29:05
  a lot heavier scrutiny than one from say, you know, Gatorade
• 29:10
  because of the close connection. And who are they actually giving
• 29:13
  NIL dollars to? And so the clearing house will
• 29:16
  essentially be the thumbs up or thumbs down.
• 29:18
  And that doesn't mean the athletes can't take the money.
• 29:21
  They can still take the money if they want to.
• 29:23
  But the second part of this is now there's going to be
• 29:26
  heavy-handed penalties from this Commission that the schools have
• 29:30
  to accept, which could mean loss of eligibility for the athlete
• 29:33
  or even worse, guys fight huge financial penalties for the
• 29:37
  institution and potentially being kicked out of the
• 29:40
  conference if they go too far over the cap.
• 29:43
  And so again, the mechanism for enforcement isn't necessarily on
• 29:45
  the individual player as far as they can't take the money.
• 29:48
  It's if you take the money and it's considered, you know, an
• 29:51
  associate entity, AKA a booster, a collective payment, your
• 29:55
  school is in hot water really quickly.
• 29:57
  And that's the document that they want all signed by these
• 29:59
  powerful institutions to make sure that they realize if we go
• 30:03
  over this and it's with a booster or collective, then we
• 30:06
  could get real serious hot water as a university, not as a
• 30:10
  player. Will they all the power force
• 30:13
  schools sign that document, You think Brett?
• 30:15
  I think so. I mean there, that's the
• 30:18
  thought. I mean all the SEC says they
• 30:20
  will. But again guys, we'll see.
• 30:22
  We'll see. I mean, I think that's the next
• 30:23
  step to follow is will those schools that have an advantage
• 30:27
  in this space are willing to give up that advantage.
• 30:30
  And for Iowa State, like you better hope they sign it because
• 30:35
  we can't keep up right now. And I know Jamie Pollard has
• 30:38
  gotten some heat with, you know, early some feedback on what he
• 30:40
  said, but he's absolutely true. Like I was in the same boat, by
• 30:43
  the way. I mean, I and I would think
• 30:45
  cannot compete in this world as it is going to continue over the
• 30:48
  next 10 years unless there's some sort of guardrails in
• 30:51
  place. And so we're all hoping that
• 30:53
  they will sign. It sounds like they will, but
• 30:55
  then the next question is when there is a challenge to this
• 30:58
  Commission and somebody nil deal get denied, will the school
• 31:04
  challenge it or they, you know, be the good, good community
• 31:07
  members and abide by the rule? It's fascinating.
• 31:09
  I mean, I saw a report yesterday, Texas Tech is about
• 31:11
  spend $50 million on their athletic programs, you know?
• 31:16
  And hopefully and can see most of that and this is where it
• 31:18
  gets a little bit confusing is the 2020 of that million is
• 31:21
  coming from the school itself. What Texas Tech did and what
• 31:24
  everybody did here and that's why the market got insane in the
• 31:27
  spring is they front loaded all those contracts for the through
• 31:30
  the collective. But after July one that can't
• 31:33
  happen. They can't any of those deals
• 31:35
  have to be legit nil going forward.
• 31:37
  And so Tech spent $35 million from its collective in the last
• 31:41
  couple of months to front load those contracts.
• 31:44
  I saw a report NIL go talking to ACC commissioners and
• 31:47
  administrators. More than 70% of current NIL
• 31:50
  deals would not be happening. They would be denied through
• 31:54
  this new clearing house. So what do you hear it in those
• 31:57
  terms? That's ACC too.
• 31:59
  I mean, they're swimming kind of in the same waters as you guys
• 32:01
  in the Big 12. Do you look at it as concerning
• 32:03
  or because you know, the financials of Iowa State, you
• 32:06
  talked about this is going to maybe bring people back to the
• 32:09
  field. Is this ultimately going to be a
• 32:11
  good thing for Iowa State? Recap absolutely.
• 32:14
  I mean there are any any regulation is good for Iowa
• 32:17
  State and honestly, like I'm going to throw Iowa in the mix
• 32:19
  too. I know they're, they're getting,
• 32:21
  you know, 30 more million in TV money, but they, they can't keep
• 32:24
  up either. I mean, and that's The thing is
• 32:26
  this will, this will keep literally 90% of schools
• 32:30
  involved because if it was a runaway train, like it was going
• 32:32
  down, it would be like an 8 team Invitational every single year
• 32:37
  with the, with the schools that can afford it.
• 32:39
  And so this is great news. This is a great first step.
• 32:41
  And I know people are going to be critical of, oh, you know,
• 32:44
  that's not really, you know, free market at work.
• 32:47
  This is just a step here. There's still a lot of issues
• 32:50
  that need to be handled. There will be lawsuits, but
• 32:53
  ultimately, the government's going to have to get involved
• 32:56
  just like it does and has with the NFL, Major League Baseball
• 33:00
  in the NBA, to get an antitrust exemption.
• 33:02
  And so codifying that in the law will be the next step for called
• 33:06
  sports to avoid all these lawsuits going forward.
• 33:08
  And so over the next 6 to 9 months, that's why you'll see a
• 33:11
  lot of college sports leaders working with the government.
• 33:15
  And it's also why Greg Stankey and the Notre Dame AD were
• 33:18
  golfing with President Trump on Sunday.
• 33:21
  Interesting. I want to ask you this because I
• 33:24
  get asked and I don't know the answer.
• 33:26
  So will the will the schools send 1090 nines to the athletes
• 33:30
  and in the past did we will have to 1099 some of the athletes did
• 33:35
  yeah, OK. Yep, that's, that's exactly it.
• 33:37
  And so you know, they'll have their own essentially third
• 33:39
  party funding mechanism. I think the Big 12, it'll be
• 33:42
  announced at some point is actually getting a corporate
• 33:45
  deal with PayPal. So Iowa State and all the other
• 33:48
  big club schools will run their payments through PayPal.
• 33:51
  And but yeah, though these athletes are taxed just like
• 33:53
  anybody else would be a contract employee.
• 33:55
  And that's been part of us for the last three years.
• 33:57
  All these, all these athletes have been paying federal and
• 34:00
  state tax just like the rest of us.
• 34:02
  So another component to this, and I heard Sankey talk a little
• 34:05
  bit about it is enforcement's coming.
• 34:09
  This new enforcement arm that is not going to be considered NCAA.
• 34:12
  It's going to be a separate entity, also potentially is
• 34:14
  going to have subpoena power, which will go a long way into
• 34:17
  keeping it talking to the people that you know inside this
• 34:21
  industry. Brent, is this something that's
• 34:22
  going to work? And when we do get the first
• 34:24
  Malfi? And so we know it'll happen very
• 34:26
  quickly and it'll happen right away by somebody.
• 34:30
  My believe they're going to come down hard right away.
• 34:32
  If, if this is if we're resetting everything in college
• 34:35
  athletics, the first one that screws up, the first one that
• 34:38
  cheats, you got to go after them hard.
• 34:40
  No doubt, Yeah. I've had great conversations
• 34:42
  with people in the administrations.
• 34:44
  It's like they, I don't want to call it the SW death penalty,
• 34:47
  but it's got to be really heavy-handed.
• 34:49
  It can't be like, oh, well, that's, you know, that's a
• 34:51
  couple losses of practice hours or something.
• 34:54
  No, they're going to get after them.
• 34:55
  They really are. It's the only way to make this
• 34:57
  work because what happened in the previous setup is they had
• 35:01
  rules in place, guys in NIL and then basically Tennessee said
• 35:04
  we're not going to follow those, we're going to sue you through
• 35:06
  our attorney general. And they won, and the whole
• 35:09
  thing went to heck in a hand basket overnight.
• 35:11
  So, yeah, I mean, we'll see. You can have all the best
• 35:14
  practices in place, but if these schools don't follow through and
• 35:18
  want to, you know, be selfish and do it for their own player,
• 35:21
  then we'll see how long it holds up.
• 35:23
  But if they do stick together, I do think this does have more
• 35:27
  stickiness than I think the general public is aware of.
• 35:29
  Yeah, I hope so, because I don't want to see it.
• 35:31
  The bag man in the Wild West return if everybody's on the
• 35:34
  same playing field, I think that makes for a much, much better
• 35:37
  product. We'll we'll see where it goes.
• 35:39
  So in the in the here and now, Brent, when an Iowa State fan or
• 35:43
  booster or you know, somebody wants to has has supported we
• 35:48
  will in the past. Do they still go through?
• 35:51
  We will do they go through the do the Iowa State itself?
• 35:54
  What do you what do you encourage fans to do now if they
• 35:57
  want to, you know, get involved in, in funding, you know, to the
• 36:01
  level that they can college sports.
• 36:04
  Great question. And in the next, I'd say next
• 36:06
  couple of months, still do what you've been doing with the Weber
• 36:08
  Collective. And so we still need, we still
• 36:12
  obligations that we're meeting with contracts we're currently
• 36:14
  paying out. So that's up to #1 priority for
• 36:17
  me. But just like Iowa announced
• 36:19
  yesterday with their new NIL fund, Iowa State is going to
• 36:22
  announce something similar here in the coming week.
• 36:24
  And so essentially, you know, post July 1, I would say fans
• 36:28
  will have the option to donate directly to a fund within Iowa
• 36:32
  State that will be called the We Will Fund.
• 36:35
  And so the nice part here is I would say it's kind of keeping
• 36:37
  all of our language. And so from the outside looking
• 36:40
  in, donors won't notice a whole lot of different.
• 36:42
  It's just a bank account. Might switch around and they'll
• 36:45
  go directly to Iowa State post July 1.
• 36:47
  And still encourage Cyclone fans to drink Ames Lager.
• 36:51
  Yeah. And it's all the same.
• 36:52
  Yeah, none of those things I've got a lot of questions about
• 36:54
  that. None of that's really going to
• 36:55
  change. It's just again on the on the
• 36:57
  back end kind of the the bank account is is what might, might
• 37:00
  change a little bit, but it all still directly benefits Iowa
• 37:03
  State and student athlete to keep Iowa State competitive and
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  and all those things are not going to change And I'm still
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  going to be around as well. Guys found out last week that
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  I'll have a position within this umbrella of whatever Iowa State
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  NIL operation looks like and all these things for Iowa State will
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  be announced here in the coming weeks.
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  But rest assured there's a plan and we still need everyone's
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  support. And again, when you're dealing
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  with the monsters like Texas Tech and you know, Iowa State
• 37:27
  had an awesome couple of years in this NIL era, you can't get
• 37:30
  comfortable because everyone else is trying to to find the
• 37:33
  best way to move forward and, and our in state schools need to
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  do the same thing. Yep, those Red Raiders, they got
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  to see me in the supply of money.
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  Hey, Brett, thanks for jumping on with us.
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  Appreciate it as always your insights and valuable during
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  these times. Thank you, Brent Bloom, glad
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  you're going to still be a part of it.
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  We'll talk to you down the road, buddy.
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  I appreciate you guys reach out in time.
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  Yep. Good to hear from you, Brett
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  Bloom, Executive Director of We will.
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  I learned some things absolutely.
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  And I think your point from the beginning of the show spot on.
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  And I and I hope it is I, I hope that there's little.
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  Teeth to this. Oh yes, there has to be.
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  There has to be, yeah. Because we see with Texas Tech,
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  you know, they have an extra $30 million.
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  They're in the same conference. And they spent it in advance of
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  their grandfathered inn. And but that ends July 1.
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  That's over. That's over and no more.
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  Well, potentially giving a billion dollars to a softball
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  pitcher. Yeah, she's good, though.
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  She is good and good for. Her.
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  Yeah, absolutely. I'll come back, finish up our #1
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  Miller and Condon, we're on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Miller and Condon welcome back. Final couple of minutes here.
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  First hour of the program, Game three.
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  NBA final tomorrow. Oklahoma City, 5 point favorite
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  currently. If there's a 5 1/2 DraftKings
• 38:50
  and Caesar's now 5 1/2 Halliburton's limp.
• 38:54
  What do you make of it? I don't think anything should I.
• 38:59
  Like it was noticeable walking off The Walking off the podium
• 39:02
  after his press conference on Sunday night.
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  I mean, it's the end of the year you.
• 39:06
  Know everybody's banged up. You would think he's played 100
• 39:09
  games of basketball. I didn't take anything away from
• 39:12
  it. I didn't see any reason for
• 39:15
  concern 10 or physical. Dude, you're going to be banged
• 39:17
  up. You know you're already banged
• 39:19
  up, and then you got to face this Behema.
• 39:21
  That's just the reality of the way it's going to be going for
• 39:23
  him the rest of the way. More likely to see a game six,
• 39:27
  NHL or NBA. Oh, NHL.
• 39:29
  For sure. And I think so too.
• 39:30
  Yeah, it's hockey. I don't think the NBA is going
• 39:32
  to see a Game 6, do you? I really don't.
• 39:35
  I hate to say it kind of reminds me of Sixers Lakers.
• 39:39
  Can the Pacers? Iverson got game one.
• 39:42
  Have that 1820223 points shooting night or they knock
• 39:46
  down a ton. Win one at home, get us to a
• 39:48
  game. I gotta hope so.
• 39:50
  Is that the only path though of even getting another victory?
• 39:54
  The way they guard you and there's just so many of them,
• 39:57
  yes, it it seems like there's six guys on the floor.
• 39:59
  Who just wave after wave? Oh my God, Hour 2, we're going
• 40:03
  to do a little NFL Start Day syndicate on the Packers.
• 40:05
  What does Gyre Alexander mean? Then we're going to get into
• 40:08
  some other things. A quarterback he used to root
• 40:10
  for is now a Steeler. We really never talked about
• 40:13
  that. Didn't move the markets.
• 40:14
  One bet. Betting markets with the news.
• 40:16
  Aaron Rodgers as a Steeler. Hour 2 coming up next Iowa
• 40:19
  Sports Radio Network.