Latest / B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast / B4evaKool "race a motorcycle" Podcast S2 Ep. 10
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- 0:00My name is Rex 45. You're listening to the Be
- 0:02Forever Cool podcast. My name is TJ with two wheels
- 0:05and coffee. What's going on, man?
- 0:09In Auto GP riding season it's all I can do.
- 0:15It's currently raining. The leaves are falling as the
- 0:18rain is going and. It's It's falling for real.
- 0:23It's falling into the winter. I'll.
- 0:26I'll know about that life right now, man, I don't know about
- 0:29that life right now. I I gotta say, I have.
- 0:31I had to stop looking at Boston weather last week because I
- 0:35realized it was messing with my psyche thinking that looking at
- 0:40the weather in Boston and thinking that's what it is
- 0:41outside and that's not what it is.
- 0:45It just had the interest to be like this is that's what they
- 0:47going through huh. Yeah, pretty much.
- 0:51It might it it might be that man.
- 0:53I don't know it might it might be that.
- 0:55But I'm, I'm. I'm.
- 0:56Still on the hoodie? You got a T-shirt on over there,
- 0:59you know? Yeah, T-shirt on, AC on.
- 1:02Oh man, so I I. Got I got the heat on, man.
- 1:08Listen, man, hey, there's there's room down here, man.
- 1:10So you know you can always make your way down.
- 1:14Sometime, you know, when I retire, I guess, well, I shoot,
- 1:19man, I wish I was retiring. But you know it is what it is.
- 1:21It's it's, I'll have to say this, it's nice to have warm
- 1:25weather because I'm definitely getting on my street bike more
- 1:28so that that that's exciting and I don't miss the cold.
- 1:34Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.
- 1:38It's coming soon, no doubt. So I mean, I I guess we should
- 1:42just jump right into it, man. I mean, you know.
- 1:48And to back races, you know, back-to-back races.
- 1:51What, what? What?
- 1:51What do you think you know what do you think about the Sprint?
- 1:55You know, you know, I mean even Moto Moto Three, it was
- 1:59incredible. You know you got a rookie
- 2:00winning the race. That's that's incredible.
- 2:04You know Moto 2 incredible Furman al the year you know this
- 2:11guy should have been doing what Pedro was doing last year and
- 2:15and he's just coming into his form the end of this year so you
- 2:19know but because in the in the in the European Championship
- 2:22that dude was the was a beast when Pedro was on Moto 3 winning
- 2:25that championship So I I don't know if the transition from the
- 2:30the the European Honda Motor 2 bike versus the Triumph Motor 2
- 2:35bike I I think it was a it was a bigger step for him than than
- 2:39Pedro coming from Moto 2 to Moto Moto 3 to Moto 2.
- 2:43Yeah, I mean you you definitely gotta make that smoother
- 2:46transition. But I think, I think he's, he's
- 2:49a good rider now. He deserved it, that's all.
- 2:52You know I'll be rooting for Aaron Kinett.
- 2:55And you know, he he didn't. I had luck.
- 2:57Aaron's he, he he blew it on me and P2 starting on the grid.
- 3:03So that would have been you know probably a a better fight to see
- 3:07at the end. Yeah, I I, you know, I don't,
- 3:12you know it. It's unfortunate for him because
- 3:15he's a talented dude and I he doesn't he doesn't do well at
- 3:24closing out races he's leading in or or when he's running out
- 3:28front. He doesn't like you know he he
- 3:30he should be on way more podiums than he's than he's think about
- 3:34the mond times he's crashed out you know it it it's it's just
- 3:38you know he should have way more podiums than than what he
- 3:42currently have. So I, I, I, you know, I think he
- 3:45needs to, you know, sit down with with with the likes of
- 3:50Rossi and somebody's experienced riders and just, you know, learn
- 3:53how to get your mind in a place where when you're in front, when
- 3:58you're running out of front, you can still stay calm because it
- 4:00seems like you know, he gets, I don't want to say excited
- 4:04because I don't know what it is, but he does something to cause
- 4:07him to crash. It's a really tough task, man.
- 4:10I'm sure. I mean leading, leading the
- 4:13front when it when you know there's a whole pack chasing
- 4:16you. Right.
- 4:17It's just a whole different beast.
- 4:19But you know, knowing that Pedro Acosta wasn't in the front, you
- 4:23know that would have been a better chance for him.
- 4:25You know, that's. So it's good.
- 4:26It's good that. Alex J got that win is, is, is
- 4:29the downside of not having mirrors.
- 4:30You can't see who's behind you. You just hear a buzzing sound or
- 4:33sounds, yeah? I I have a bad habit of peeking
- 4:38over my shoulder every now and then, yeah.
- 4:42But you know, it's that no mirrors.
- 4:44You know, you just once you hear a buzz coming, you know, you
- 4:47know someone's making a move. Yeah.
- 4:49No, it is. And you got to calm the voices
- 4:52in your head or in the helmet, I should say because you know,
- 4:56it's it's, it's it's it's hard up front.
- 4:59You know, it's hard up front. I've had, I have.
- 5:01I've been fortunate enough to lead a couple.
- 5:04But it's, you know, it's it's it's nice to to set somebody up
- 5:08from from behind and, you know, pass them, whether on the last
- 5:12lap or or whatever the case may be, Then then it is to stay out
- 5:17front for the whole thing. But that's where you want to be,
- 5:19'cause then you run your race. Yeah, I don't think I've ever.
- 5:24I mean I want a race, but it was obviously with other packs of
- 5:28bikes, so I never was in a single race lead in the pack.
- 5:32So that that hopefully one day. Hey listen man, you get a lap,
- 5:37you get 2 laps, it's great. And you know what I mean it's
- 5:39it's you know you know that that's all you can ask for.
- 5:44You never know because you know the fast guys that you know they
- 5:48run out front but that's a mental game to stay out front
- 5:50and and to keep that pace and like like or like Orge did
- 5:54right. It's you know he's he's you know
- 5:58that we're jumping around a little bit but you know I will
- 6:01say that like from a mental perspective he sorted it out and
- 6:07you know he was able to do that. So yeah man.
- 6:09So no, I I I do agree to go back to Moto 3 to you know to have
- 6:14these see these young rookies come out and and dominate.
- 6:18You know for a second. It it that that's pretty
- 6:20impressive because you got some guys that's been in Moto 3 for a
- 6:23little while now and you know they they didn't jump out front
- 6:27light and and weren't running out front like these these young
- 6:29kids. Yeah, I know it's impressive to
- 6:34see what these young kids got. You know those bikes look so
- 6:37light they throw them around and feel you just a little wind gusk
- 6:41and and can change the game with all these bikes.
- 6:45And it's crazy to see, you know, it's rude for a year you guys,
- 6:49since you mentioned that when we first started Dennis, Dennis,
- 6:52aren't you, we had pole position and he left for the first couple
- 6:57laps and then after that draft he jumped back to like 5th and
- 7:006th. And you know, it's just kept
- 7:02rotating, but the way they can, you know, push those Moto 3
- 7:09bikes, especially at that age and, you know, not break loose.
- 7:14It's crazy. Yeah.
- 7:15It's it's it's very impressive at the talent level that these
- 7:19young kids are coming out and yeah David Alonzo you know
- 7:24rookie coming out of Columbia on the gas gas you know what I mean
- 7:28And you know pretty crazy you know and but I I it goes to say
- 7:35you know these kids that are coming up in the Cup Series and
- 7:40the level of of of the racing below Moto Moto 3 is is is way
- 7:45different today than ever before.
- 7:49Oh yeah, they're the, I mean, the amount of training they have
- 7:55to get to this point, it's crazy like, you know, coming up in
- 7:59Valencia's, they have the mini Cup Series, so there.
- 8:02There's so much young talent coming up at, you know.
- 8:07Very soon, right? Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 8:09I mean the US is we're growing and and and it's a beautiful
- 8:14thing to see. And you know, I think you know,
- 8:175 to 10 years from now, it'll be interesting to see the landscape
- 8:21of World Super Bike and and Moto GP.
- 8:26Yeah, I wonder if they have like a little a mini series for like,
- 8:30you know, World Super Bike and you know, we see it with the
- 8:34Motor America kids. You know, they got their little
- 8:37mini cups. They go around Oh yeah.
- 8:40I mean it's it's I think it's it's Moto.
- 8:43Yeah. Because you know shout out to
- 8:45Nathan Betancourt he's going over or I think he was over in
- 8:49Spain to to to run in in in in the in the in the series for all
- 8:56these riders. But no, that that series is is
- 9:00it's global and that's Moto GP that's doing it.
- 9:03That's those guys that are doing that like the Cup Series and my
- 9:06Cup Series might be wrong, I might not be.
- 9:08It might not be called the the the Cup Series but for the for
- 9:12the young kids and you know that's that they've you know it.
- 9:16It's like what you know European soccer has done or European
- 9:19football has done with with with their camps and stuff like that.
- 9:22These these kids now are, you know, they're they're very
- 9:27skillful at a young age. Yeah, watching these kids of,
- 9:34you know, hitting corners and apexes and dragging their knees
- 9:37and stuff, I'm just thinking of what their minds going through.
- 9:41Like, do they understand how we understand or they're just going
- 9:45through the motion, you know, Right.
- 9:46I think they understand. You know what I mean?
- 9:48I mean, I know, I know, they understand.
- 9:50But like, it's just, I don't know.
- 9:53It's just kind of impressive just to see like.
- 9:56They doing the exact same thing adults are doing, right?
- 10:00Yeah. No, that's was going to say, I
- 10:02mean, I think they they understand because, you know,
- 10:05folks are teaching them will they fully comprehend.
- 10:08That's a whole different story. They know that if if the bike
- 10:11feels like this, you do this, you do or you know what I'm
- 10:14saying, that type of thing. Do they fully understand the
- 10:16whole gravity of what they're doing?
- 10:18Probably not. Not even the least bit.
- 10:21You know what I'm saying? To be how young they are, 'cause
- 10:22even you know, not, you know, you know, I I had to, you know,
- 10:25remind my daughter the other day that like, you know, you're
- 10:29you're, you're 12 years old, swimming with, you know, high
- 10:32school kids. So you know, you're 3 seconds
- 10:35behind them, but like you're 12. So I don't, I don't think like
- 10:41young kids, they just competitive, right?
- 10:44They just they just want to go and and go, but they don't.
- 10:47I I think when they become adults, they'll fully understand
- 10:51what's going on. But no, they like they as far as
- 10:54the learning and and breaking and all that stuff, you know,
- 10:57they they just fearless with it. Yeah, they're very competitive
- 11:01and fearless, those 2GO hand to hand with these kids, yeah.
- 11:06Yeah, hopefully, yeah. Shout out to Nathan.
- 11:08I'm not sure if that series cup passed already.
- 11:11I don't know if they said it was in Valencia when they do it at
- 11:13the end of the year in November, I'm not 100% sure, right, Yeah.
- 11:18I know he's invited. Yeah, I know it was.
- 11:20I don't know if it was because World Super Bike just ended.
- 11:22So I don't think it's part of that.
- 11:24So it might be part of Moto GP. The last, the last round of the
- 11:27Moto GP calendar is is is what I'm thinking, which is pretty
- 11:31dope because you know these that that's the avenue that we need.
- 11:35I wish it was more, it was more, you know, you know, I wish was
- 11:39more government money going to funding you know, stuff like
- 11:43this. Because you know what I mean?
- 11:45It is families, it's a very expensive sport.
- 11:48But you know the US needs more representation in the world
- 11:54super bike and in, in Moto GP, right.
- 11:57And you know it it's very difficult for families to to to
- 12:02kind of, you know, racing is one of those, you know the it's
- 12:06probably more poor people that love racing but only the rich
- 12:10can really do it. Well you know what I'm saying?
- 12:13There is the rest of us, we're lucky forget it here and there.
- 12:16So that is the downside of the sport because it's it's it it
- 12:20you need so much capital. You know, it makes it very
- 12:24difficult and shout out to those families that you know that that
- 12:28stand behind their kids and and believe in what their kids are
- 12:32trying to do and and and put it up because you know at the end
- 12:36of the day you don't know where you're going to end up.
- 12:39But it it's, it's going to be a memory that you'll carry
- 12:42forever. Oh yeah, And I, I mean just
- 12:46being in the racing world now for, you know, since 2023 years
- 12:52myself and watching these kids grow from the three years I've
- 12:55been there and always seeing them happy, you know?
- 12:59I think it's great. So the parents definitely doing
- 13:02a good job keeping their head straight for sure, keeping them
- 13:06competitive and respectful, that'll take them a long way.
- 13:11And then like you said, we're room for the the US side to
- 13:15reach the board of the Professional.
- 13:18GP side of things definitely, definitely like like back in the
- 13:2280s and 90s, man and in early 2000s.
- 13:26You know, you know what I'm saying, you know, you know and
- 13:29you know obviously I'm not I'm not this diminishing what Nikki
- 13:32Hayden has done or anything like that.
- 13:34When I say early 2000s, you know, but you know we need, you
- 13:38know, we should have more people out there and you know the sport
- 13:42has taken a hit in the US and you know it, it's it's it's
- 13:48growing again. So that's the exciting part and
- 13:51you know the future is exciting and and and that's the that's
- 13:54that's the beautiful thing about motorcycle racing and and racing
- 13:57in general, because you know, not a lot of people like to race
- 14:03in the world, you know, but a bunch of us do.
- 14:08And the ones that do, We always think that everyone loves it
- 14:11too. Yeah, I was.
- 14:12Trying to show off our races and.
- 14:15Pictures and stuff, but no doubt.
- 14:17No doubt. So yeah.
- 14:19So let's keep it going with with Moto 2A.
- 14:21Little bit, you know what I'm saying?
- 14:22You know Jake Dixon has tough Tony Abelino.
- 14:27Tough run. It seems like Pedros is coasting
- 14:31away with it. But again I'll go back to
- 14:32Furman. I love what he's doing.
- 14:34I I I obviously I know he wish and his camp wish he was doing
- 14:38this sooner because to me I felt like he was the better of the
- 14:43two riders coming into the series as rookies he had some
- 14:47bad lucks and and we are where we are now so I hope he got to
- 14:52sort out sorted out because if he does I think only what Lopez
- 14:57maybe Viete for next year who who else could catch him if he's
- 15:02if he keeps riding like this and you know Aya guru.
- 15:06Aya Guru. I mean.
- 15:08Yeah, I go, I wish I had a better season.
- 15:11I know he's been injured. So yeah, I go definitely one.
- 15:16And I mean, if Eric Connect still around Eric Connect, sure.
- 15:19But it mean he still got a lot to learn.
- 15:24And I mean, we all do. But yeah, that means it's just
- 15:28me, a select few. I mean, there's always that one
- 15:30that, you know, probably jump from Moto 3 and and just gel
- 15:34right away. Yeah and figure it out whoever
- 15:38take you know faggio might yeah he you know he's he's up in
- 15:42there you know I so go ahead. Doesn't say so.
- 15:47Pedro leaving, right? So someone taking that KTMC
- 15:50dude. Yeah, that's that's.
- 15:52They get their full package Celestina, Viete and Dennis on
- 15:56Chu. So, so they get Pedro conscious
- 15:59package or are they going to, they get, they get, they get,
- 16:03they get, they get that that that team package it's not the
- 16:06right package that that's that. Team you know remember Gardner
- 16:10and and and Ramirez was was you know was there the the years
- 16:16before right. You know what I'm saying One and
- 16:18two and you know they they have a winning thing.
- 16:21Akiowa, Akiow. And so I I do, yeah, I didn't
- 16:28see, I didn't see you know Celestine getting going that
- 16:32way. Shout out to the the Academy for
- 16:34being able to pull that off because he has to be a front
- 16:38runner for the championship and you know and like I said Lopez
- 16:46Fuhrman yeah faggia can get up there you know I don't I didn't
- 16:51see Sergio Garcia you know he's running all right but he just
- 16:56he's still figuring it out so who knows the you know some cat
- 17:02and and I guru for sure right they they still going to be on
- 17:06those bikes next year Joe Roberts is going back to the
- 17:11American team that which is a good.
- 17:13Yeah, I forgot about that. You know I I think he has you
- 17:17know, I I he's missing the consistency.
- 17:22You know what I'm saying? And and.
- 17:24Jump in there Moto GP affected that well I I the tricky part is
- 17:30this because he had I believe he had the opportunity to go to
- 17:33that Aprilia but the end they thought the Aprilia was going to
- 17:36suck like every other year it did.
- 17:39Yeah but it didn't suck that year but he did He turned that
- 17:42bike down with a lot of other Moto 2 rides and I only know
- 17:44that because Alicia's when he won you know he talked about
- 17:52people not wanting to come to Aprilia.
- 17:54Ride is not wanting to come to Aprilia and so you know so it's
- 17:59good that he's still in Moto 2. Roberts.
- 18:02And you know it's tricky for it's tricky because none of the
- 18:10guys in Ducati is going to leave.
- 18:11None of the guys in KTM is going to want to leave.
- 18:13None of the guys in Aprilia is going to want to leave.
- 18:15So that leaves Yamaha and Honda. And if if if Ducati is in the
- 18:24top 10, how can you get rid of any of those riders, right?
- 18:27Because it's eight bikes and if you're in the top ten you can't
- 18:30really get rid of any of the riders.
- 18:31There's no real justification, right.
- 18:33Because you're and and so. Alicia KTM, You always got room
- 18:38for another person. Well, they betting the money on
- 18:41Acosta and they button their money on on on Fernandez now,
- 18:45right? So.
- 18:47Costa don't ride well. You never know, he might be a
- 18:50World Super Bike, so I think Alicia's done at the end of 2024
- 18:54and he might become a test rider probably for a pretty year.
- 18:57So Alicia's seat may open up but that could be Oliveira going to
- 19:02to the factory seat or they can pull someone up and and and
- 19:07Fernandez, Raul Fernandez he's riding well for his second year
- 19:13you know in well I think it's first year on April year second
- 19:16year in in in Moto GP right. So I I think he's, I think he's
- 19:22riding well. So you know so I don't think
- 19:25they're going to get rid of him. But at the end of 2024, I know
- 19:28we're jumping beyond 2023-2024 but we already know what that's
- 19:32going to look like. So yeah so the Moto 2 riders,
- 19:35it's going to be really hard to to say hey I deserve a spot.
- 19:39If if you're not out there dominating like what Pedro was
- 19:41doing it it's going to be really hard to say you you deserve a
- 19:44shot in Moto 2IN, Moto GP when you got these riders in Moto GP
- 19:50doing really well. I mean, you're talking about a
- 19:52second and a half from the from the bottom guy to the top guy,
- 19:55right? Yeah, there's.
- 19:57I mean, there's no marching forever.
- 20:00Yeah. Yeah, as you see.
- 20:01So you, you know what I'm saying?
- 20:03So, so with that said, you know, let's talk about the motor GP
- 20:07race, You know, what did you think?
- 20:10What did you think about the Sprint?
- 20:12You know the floor is yours. Well, I mean one thing I I must
- 20:18say that like we know these guys are fit.
- 20:22We know these guys are like incredible athletes, but to have
- 20:26this many races within a month span and having an added race at
- 20:32that, it's you know, it's pretty incredible to watch and
- 20:37especially the the front runners just consistently staying up
- 20:40front. With that being said, like
- 20:43Martine rode his ass off he he figured out the tire tire
- 20:49situation this time was going to have that again.
- 20:53So I wasn't really worried about the Sprint with him, but the the
- 20:56main race had me a little concerned.
- 20:58Yeah, no, I will say he, he definitely did figure out that
- 21:03like, you're not, you can't come out and bully people off the
- 21:08track. You're not going to come out
- 21:10here and just stretch people out.
- 21:11Like he crashed and then he beat the tire up doing that.
- 21:14He realized like you're going to have to go into this dogfight
- 21:17with these guys and that's how it's going to be.
- 21:19You're not going to be or or. Hey Lorenzo, out here.
- 21:22You all have my team. You going to be fighting with
- 21:24people you know what I'm saying? You're not just going to pull
- 21:25away like and and ride not to say he can't he you know next
- 21:30year he probably could do that. You feel what I'm saying.
- 21:33I'm not going to sit here and say he can't get there.
- 21:35He can't ride like Lorenzo when he's out front or like a Marquez
- 21:39when he's out front and and just and just and even like a PECO
- 21:43shows it a little bit out front. You know what I'm saying and and
- 21:45be able to manage the ties He he's still learning.
- 21:48And he's a young dude, but he definitely figured, like, OK,
- 21:52I'm going to have to have a dog fight with these guys at the
- 21:55end. And you know the cards the cards
- 21:59fell in his way. You know, I mean I mean you see
- 22:02he's stepping in the right direction.
- 22:04I mean you know everyone makes mistakes as you trying to get
- 22:08him proved to your best. And I think next year at
- 22:13upcoming years he'll he'll he and the front runner, he still
- 22:18has a chance this year. He still has a chance this year
- 22:21for sure. I think Peco is playing the
- 22:26conservative role. He he knows how many mistakes he
- 22:30made the last year at the beginning of the year, just
- 22:34running up front and literally crashing half of a season away
- 22:38up front. And it's amazing that he also
- 22:40won because he's always winning first.
- 22:42Yep. So he doesn't want to play that
- 22:45game this year with leading in points especially.
- 22:48So you can kind of tell Martine's aggression opposed to
- 22:51his. Yep.
- 22:53But he also wrote his ass off. Yeah, no, he definitely did.
- 22:58And you know, there's some fortune that has to happen there
- 23:03because you know. Brad, you know Brad.
- 23:07Come on, keep. Stay off the green at the last
- 23:10lap, bro. Stay off the green.
- 23:12You've got demoted so many times.
- 23:14Three times you got demoted for going for exceeding track
- 23:18limits, three times and I and I wanted Brad to win this race.
- 23:22Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because I know he's not
- 23:26fighting for anything. But, but, but he.
- 23:29He's another one who deserves you know, a fresh podium, not in
- 23:34the rain or you know or or you know a nice fought fight.
- 23:38But and and that would have, that would have put him back in
- 23:40his second now to change the points.
- 23:42Oh yeah. No, I I think as a rider you'd
- 23:45prefer to be out front and have a three second lead, right?
- 23:49But as a fan, it's better when it's a dogfight.
- 23:54Oh yeah, this place is a dog play.
- 23:57So like, Martine didn't leave for more than two seconds the
- 24:01whole race. And I think Brad Bender was
- 24:05probably .1, probably the whole race behind him.
- 24:08Yeah, yeah, yeah. And overtake overtook a few
- 24:10times, maybe LED a lap or two, but Martine just blocked past
- 24:16his way back in. Yeah, hey listen man if if Pekko
- 24:20that if that pass. Would have worked.
- 24:23It would have been over. Oh yeah, it would have been over
- 24:27if that pass would have been worked, Marty said.
- 24:29Nope, you ain't getting by if Echo is waiting.
- 24:31Yeah man. Listen, if he would have got
- 24:33away with that bro, man, it would it like that would have
- 24:36crushed that would crush Martine, that would have crushed
- 24:38them like because because especially when you see the
- 24:41replay you saw how fast, how can I shouldn't say fast.
- 24:44You saw how quick he overtook both of them, real quick with
- 24:47Brad or indefinitely and and got in front of Martine for a
- 24:51second. Oh yeah, and it's crazy that
- 24:56Martine and Brad was just running up front the whole race.
- 24:59Yeah. And as mentioned, Petco
- 25:02obviously was a six on the grid. But first couple laps he was, he
- 25:06was chilling paint with a lot of riders and he had to find his
- 25:10way through, you know, obviously playing conservative.
- 25:12So he had to fight. He had to fight a long way.
- 25:15Yeah, so you thinking, you thinking if he had a better
- 25:18start and got a front quicker? It might have been a different
- 25:21story, yeah, because he would have.
- 25:22Listen, listen man, if you get a lot of riders will say if I had
- 25:26one more lap, if I had one more lap.
- 25:31I mean if they if if Peko and Brad Bender had one more lap,
- 25:34Martine would probably be in 3rd.
- 25:36Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I'll listen, man, I'm I'm.
- 25:41Did you see, did you see that burst that Peko had like coming
- 25:45into one of the last corners, like second or the last lap?
- 25:48I don't know if you. Remember.
- 25:49Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, that that, like how
- 25:51quickly he he passed them real quick, right?
- 25:53Yeah. Like what?
- 25:54Like, oh, so yeah, that that was I I thought he had it.
- 25:58I thought he was talking about. Oh, no, wait, that was that was,
- 26:01that was, that was that was the last lap.
- 26:03That was the last lap. I think he did that.
- 26:05Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 26:06I placed him out when Brad been there trying to pass him and
- 26:09then Pekko try to sneak up under as well.
- 26:11Yeah, yeah. OK.
- 26:12Yeah, I know it was. It was.
- 26:14It was fun to watch. Like I said, it's better when
- 26:18there's a dog fight than when it's just, you know, when when
- 26:22the guys just running 3 seconds up.
- 26:24As again, as the writer, you want to be up front.
- 26:26But as a fan you you want to see mixing up and and and matching
- 26:30up. You know, they they should just
- 26:31put all the Ducatis on the grid. That's it.
- 26:33It's all Ducatis. Let's see what happens.
- 26:38I mean, they're going to have to change them like Moto 2.
- 26:41At least make them look cool. Oh, for sure, For sure, right.
- 26:47And you do see that in Motor 2, granted that I think that three
- 26:50different frames out there. So I guess you get that
- 26:53difference. But you know, you know what I
- 26:56mean? But you see that with the same
- 26:58engine and what's going on with these riders and again, those
- 27:01riders, I mean between first and 22 is like a again minute and a
- 27:05half. It's a minute, second and a
- 27:07half, it's, it's, it's ridiculous.
- 27:09So you know it's crazy to see what you know.
- 27:12The Ducatis are doing and these riders are doing and I I, you
- 27:16know, for Peco he has to win this year because next year it's
- 27:20going to be ugly. It's going to be ugly.
- 27:23I know he's playing, I know he's playing conservative, but I also
- 27:26think he's nervous. Got to be.
- 27:29That's me. Come on.
- 27:29You got to be. Everyone's nervous out there,
- 27:34but I think it's like he's almost sick.
- 27:37Peco, No, I think the fact that he won the first one and I think
- 27:41that he has Rossi in his corner and other people in his corner,
- 27:45I think they're telling him to keep calm and hopefully he'll
- 27:49put his trust in them. And and be calm.
- 27:52And I think you saw that this past weekend even after the
- 27:54Sprint, he didn't come out on Sunday being erratic or anything
- 27:57like that. He kept his cool and the
- 27:59universe gave him second place. Right.
- 28:01And and so I think that because it could have been a lot worse.
- 28:05For sure. Definitely could have been worse
- 28:06than that and and Martine had to ride his ass off like you said
- 28:12to get five more points than Peko.
- 28:14So there's also, you know, I'm saying that like the pressure is
- 28:16going to be on Martine because he's just like come on like, I
- 28:19like. I was a beast and I I got five
- 28:22points, so you know what I mean? So it it it's like, yeah, you as
- 28:27Peco just just needs to be in second.
- 28:30You know, if he's, if he's close to him for the rest of the
- 28:32season, you know what would have got 18 points and and and three
- 28:36rounds and and and. Yeah, and some of the long
- 28:40rounds, some of the longer races, he's, you know, we'll see
- 28:43Peco got. I don't think Peco can stay
- 28:45conservative for for the for the for the rest of the races as you
- 28:49as you were alluding to he's he's going to have yeah he's
- 28:52going to have to come out here and be stuff and I I guess you
- 28:56got to know when you don't have it you have to so maybe he knew
- 28:58he didn't have it that round and and that and it's what it is and
- 29:02and but you know he's going to have to come out and and and
- 29:05step in somebody's chest. Another thing is they have some
- 29:09fast tracks coming up, but he's going against Ducati's
- 29:13competition, so we'll say they have for sale and this a Sepang,
- 29:19those those tracks, the Ducati family.
- 29:21And and I'll say this, it's crazy because I think Martine is
- 29:26is from what I can tell is is lighter than Pekko, so he should
- 29:30be able to manage the tire better, I don't think.
- 29:33I don't know if he can be talking to Pedroza, but I'll be
- 29:37or or he can definitely be talking to Alvaro.
- 29:39Like he should be like picking Alvarez's brain.
- 29:42Like, you know what I'm saying? Because, like, them dudes are
- 29:44probably like close to the same height.
- 29:46And if he figures out, when he figures out how to manage the
- 29:48tire like Alvarez, it's going to be a long time coming before
- 29:53somebody come in and and beat him just because of his weight
- 29:56and and and his skill set. Yeah, that's a fun guy to watch
- 30:00too. Shout out to Alba bounty step.
- 30:02And went in two for two years in a row.
- 30:04Two years in a row. You know what I'm saying?
- 30:06And you know he made motorcycle, he went, he made the World Super
- 30:09Bike a little bit, You know, not fun to watch a shout out to Top
- 30:14Rock because he, he gave him a fight, he gave him a fight, he
- 30:18gave him a fight like like nobody's business.
- 30:20And he's the only one that gave him a fight.
- 30:23So Top Rack was one that was talked about for like you know
- 30:28that went to see a Moto GP and and and you know one of the top
- 30:33dogs and Altissa just two years in a row on them.
- 30:37And and Bautista will get another year right.
- 30:39Because if unless top rock and figure out that BMW who's going
- 30:44to beat who's going to beat them like like the the Pentagon is
- 30:48getting better. So like who you know you know
- 30:53Yamaha. Yeah.
- 30:54Step up the game Cowie. Yeah, game got to step up Honda.
- 30:58Yeah, I got to bring it. Yeah, Yamaha definitely has to
- 31:01step up the game. Jumping back to GP, as you said,
- 31:04Fabio, they don't make any changes.
- 31:06He's going to have to make some decisions coming 2025 and keep
- 31:10replaying that video. Yeah, I listen.
- 31:12I don't know who's. I don't know who Fabio's going
- 31:14to listen, who's seat he's going to take.
- 31:18He can't. By that time he'll he'll find a
- 31:21Ducati seat. Yeah, he going he going to start
- 31:24his own own own own own own bike.
- 31:27No, it it's unfortunate that this is happening It it's good
- 31:31for Ducati. It's good to see all these
- 31:32riders because Moto GP is is is the best it's been it's it's
- 31:37really good to see like OK eight guys on a bike.
- 31:40Look what happens, right. That's really dope to see it.
- 31:43The disadvantage is that you know you see the Honda
- 31:47suffering. You see the Yamaha suffering and
- 31:51well there are only two that's really suffering, right?
- 31:53But. You do see that so that that
- 31:55that's kind of like if you're a fan of the Marquez or Joanne
- 31:59Meyer, you know Fabio, I'm a fan of Frankie and you know to see
- 32:04them guys struggling and you know that you know they got the
- 32:06skill right. You know, you know what I'm
- 32:09saying? You know if you got the the
- 32:10merge, you know you believe in them.
- 32:12But it's tough to see and but that's always been part of
- 32:15motorcycle riding though, you know what I'm saying from the
- 32:17from the beginning some people were just on Superior bikes.
- 32:22So what do you think about Mark Marquez moving over to Ducati
- 32:26and how do you think his test is going to go the day after the
- 32:31season is over? To be honest, I think he can't
- 32:34wait. I know he's super excited.
- 32:37It's very seems like mellow about the situation, but I think
- 32:40it's going to go well. I think once he figured it out,
- 32:45he's going to be the man probably to beat, but I think
- 32:48he's going to still continue his.
- 32:50Is qualifying ways, I must say. When you say qualifying ways,
- 32:56you mean chasing everybody, following everybody else around
- 32:59looking for a toe? Oh yeah, I mean it's it's every,
- 33:02every race and it's it affects other riders you can see even
- 33:06though as you said before, they should just go on with it
- 33:09because he doesn't matter. But you know, it does affect the
- 33:15person that that is being told so.
- 33:18Right. And we've seen that happen with
- 33:20with with Miller, with Vinyales and you know, you see what's
- 33:25going on with when he tried to jump on the back.
- 33:27I think it was Pekko in the in the last round.
- 33:31You know it it it, it's very difficult and I don't know if
- 33:33they're going to put in rules to change that for next season.
- 33:37I do think that he's probably going to adapt to the bike
- 33:40fairly quickly because, you know, I think these last three
- 33:42years for him was very frustrating.
- 33:45And you know, he wants to feel good on the bike again.
- 33:50So, you know, I I think he's going to, he's going to, you
- 33:52know, adjust quickly, but what do you think?
- 33:54Yeah, I think he just like you said, he wants a clean slate.
- 33:59He's very frustrated with this Honda.
- 34:00I feel like he's over it now that he has a new destination
- 34:05coming soon. It's just a much better feeling.
- 34:09So I think he will adjust very fast.
- 34:11As you said, the qualifying times like I feel bad for Jack
- 34:15Miller in Q1, where he didn't want to be followed by by Mark
- 34:19Marquez and he happened to just be followed and Mark Marquez
- 34:23went into Q2 and Jack Miller didn't.
- 34:26So with the Ducati, they said the bike's going to be much
- 34:29easier to handle probably for him and he have his breaking
- 34:33ability, will probably match the bike.
- 34:35So I think he'll adjust very fast, but again, I still think
- 34:40he's going to. No, I don't know about right
- 34:44away, but the testing I think will go well.
- 34:47I know he's looking forward to that.
- 34:49Yeah, I think that's going to be the big take away and
- 34:51unfortunately they're not letting reporters in to watch
- 34:54testing. So we I don't it's how much
- 34:57information they provide to the public, which is unfortunate.
- 35:00I get it, probably Moto GP want to, you know, take control of
- 35:03the content that they're putting out, but that's going to be the
- 35:06downside. That's just kind of like this is
- 35:07going to happen and it's just going to be rumored until you
- 35:11know, the the first round next year.
- 35:13Yep. And that's what we had to go
- 35:15through this pass offseason where they weren't allowing
- 35:19reporters in for the first time. And you know, as fans, we're
- 35:23interested in seeing, you know, results in and how writers feel
- 35:28for the season. And now we got send.
- 35:31Wait, like you said before round one, but hopefully I changed.
- 35:34You might have to pay somebody to get a little sneak peek or.
- 35:37Something we might we might show up man with some with some long
- 35:41zoom cameras and you know see what we can get from from across
- 35:45the way or binoculars or something.
- 35:47Because that's I think you know round one.
- 35:51It will probably want to be one of the.
- 35:53Big as you know, online events, just to see what Mark Mark
- 35:58Marquez does on that Ducati next season.
- 36:02Yeah, and then the publicity he makes, you know, just being
- 36:05haunted so, so long, it's just like a the same but new
- 36:10beginning. Right.
- 36:11Gonna be that much attention and you've got pager Acosta coming
- 36:15up and I think Moto GPS gonna be on fire next year.
- 36:18Yeah, no, definitely, definitely gonna be on fire.
- 36:20We're still waiting to figure out what's going to happen to
- 36:22Digin. Antonio I think he's going to
- 36:25get that Mark Marquez seat. Zarko don't want to go anywhere
- 36:29and it looks like Ika Lucuono is staying in the Super world super
- 36:34bike side of things. So it looks like you know I'm
- 36:37and I'm and I'm rooting for Digin Antonio because he is he's
- 36:42a good rider and I just don't and and I think if Pedro wasn't
- 36:46in the equation he would have stayed in Grassini.
- 36:50Not Grassini he he well I mean. Yeah, if.
- 36:54I I don't. I I don't.
- 36:55I. Well, I guess.
- 36:56He he probably still if Mark Marquez wanted to go to Grassini
- 36:58he would have lost the seat anyway like that that I don't
- 37:01see Grassini saying, hey we're not going to take Mark Mark
- 37:03Marquez like it is. This is you know.
- 37:06So how did that scenario play out?
- 37:08Like didn't like the the seat freed up.
- 37:11That allowed Mark in, right? Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
- 37:14So and and the mark seeds freed up.
- 37:16So I think Digit Antonio is going to get that.
- 37:19But like I said, it'll be it'll be you know he's a good rider
- 37:22and he's shown that he has the talent these last few rounds.
- 37:25I I know he wished he would have shown it sooner because you know
- 37:30he probably could have saved his seat.
- 37:32But in this instance you know it is what it is.
- 37:34But hopefully if it listen, if he goes over to Honda and Honda
- 37:38swats their self in two years or three years, you know it could
- 37:43be different from him for him, you know?
- 37:45Yeah, that's true. So do you think that Mark would
- 37:47have bullied him out of the seat, knowing that Mark wanted?
- 37:50Out. Oh, that's what I mean.
- 37:52That's what. That's what.
- 37:52That's what happened, I mean. Oh, no.
- 37:55I mean I thought, I thought it was like you know the seat was
- 37:59available then the market was able to get into that.
- 38:03I think if Marquez didn't want the Ducati seat, he would have
- 38:08the Gian. Antonio would still be in Moto
- 38:10Moto with the team. I I honestly believe that
- 38:12because. You know, who would you have
- 38:14taken? You know, Paul Espogro.
- 38:16I mean you know, who would you have taken?
- 38:17Because everyone else is staying in Moto GP, right.
- 38:20It's it's only Degen Antonio is the only person that was getting
- 38:24getting booted and Paul Espogro as well.
- 38:26But he still got a contract. So you know he's a, he's a
- 38:29backup writer so he's he's not booted, but he's, you know he's
- 38:33on a bench and and so you know what I'm saying?
- 38:35So you know what I mean? So I don't you know, he did get
- 38:38booted because Mark Marquez wanted that seat.
- 38:42Yeah, I mean, Mark's time was also coming to crunch.
- 38:46You know, he had very limited choices at one point and then
- 38:50the move was made, you know, so. So I didn't know if that was
- 38:54like a a quick decision by Cassini to play.
- 38:58All right. We got to take Mark.
- 38:59And. Yeah, I I think they want to
- 39:00win, you know what I'm saying? I think they want to win.
- 39:03And you know, here's a chance for them to get a world title,
- 39:06and this might be the best chance for them to get a world
- 39:08title. Right and and and I mean think
- 39:12about that because most riders like Bastianini they left to to
- 39:17a a a a more prominent team for lack of a better word.
- 39:20So honestly they they would they they're to feed a system
- 39:23bringing guys in getting up to speed.
- 39:25Once they start to show their talent then other teams are
- 39:28snatching them up. So honestly, this year is is is
- 39:32we'll give them the greatest chance to or next year we'll
- 39:34give them the greatest chance to get a world title in the
- 39:37Grassini. Yeah man, what a better way with
- 39:42riding with your brother. Yeah, I mean, look, the I think
- 39:47regardless if it wasn't his brother there, the Ducati
- 39:51family, the riders realized that we're at, we're family and we're
- 39:55all sharing information and it's all going to make us better.
- 39:58So I think either way. And and Alex Marquez is not the
- 40:02fastest guy out there. So, but I think either way it
- 40:05would have been a good look for him because Ducati's figured it
- 40:07out. Aprilia has figured it out where
- 40:10they're all sharing data you know KTM, they're all figured it
- 40:13out. So I I think either way
- 40:14obviously it's nice when it's your brother because Y'all can
- 40:16travel together and do everything together and and and
- 40:18chop it up together like how it was when Alex was on the factory
- 40:22team for a season, you know, so you know.
- 40:25So that's that's going to be good for him, but it's going to
- 40:29be how quickly he gets that he wrestles that Ducati, you know?
- 40:34I mean, like we've seen the improvement from when his
- 40:38brother jumped to Ducati right away, right away.
- 40:42And because, you know, Alex wasn't really that strong on the
- 40:46Honda before, you know, he was always crashing out like, you
- 40:51know, all the Hondas do and it just.
- 40:53Performance wasn't there. He would be in the front runner
- 40:56occasionally, right? But right when he went to the
- 40:58Ducati we see an improvement right away.
- 41:00Too bad that he has rib injuries and a couple injuries going on
- 41:04that had to pull out a few races, but that's something I
- 41:07would say between Alex Marquez and Anaya Bastianini.
- 41:12Those are the two guys that were injured that really didn't have
- 41:15it. I mean I know they're both happy
- 41:16to have, can't wait for 2023 to be over because you know going
- 41:20into the season I I'm pretty sure neither would have one of
- 41:23them thought they would be having the the the season they
- 41:25had with the injuries and such and and injuries.
- 41:27I mean this last bastion's injury, the last one was caused
- 41:30by him but not the first one and and and Alex Marquez.
- 41:34So you know those guys. I think if they were, if they
- 41:37had a healthy season, it could have been it.
- 41:41It could have been instead of just, you know, three guys
- 41:43fighting for the championship, it could have been five guys
- 41:46fighting for the championship. You know what I mean If if
- 41:50because Mark Marquez was like, not Mark Alex when he came out,
- 41:54he was doing all right. He still didn't figure things
- 41:56out, but he was still pushing top 6 you know so and and he was
- 42:00on a podium early. So that's that that that that's
- 42:04the downside of those two guys getting injured because it could
- 42:06have been a whole different, you know, series with if those two
- 42:10guys were healthy. Oh yeah, and I was definitely
- 42:13looking forward to Bassinini having a good season in this
- 42:16past race. There was just another good
- 42:19sight to see him in like the 20th place, you know, running
- 42:22around the track, right? You know, just because of his
- 42:26injury. So I'm just shooting for him to
- 42:28have a better season next year. I mean, like I said, there's
- 42:31there's so much talent coming out next year.
- 42:34We still got a long way to go with this year, but next year
- 42:37it's going to be a, it's going to be a it's.
- 42:40Going to be a big one. So.
- 42:42That it's not. No.
- 42:42By long shot, yeah, no, it's not.
- 42:44It's not over yet. So that's, that's the beautiful
- 42:46part about it. I'm looking forward to that.
- 42:49So yeah, so I mean you know, next round, would you, do you
- 42:52have any predictions for the next round for motor GP?
- 42:59You know I, I I'm I got a shoot from my my boy Harry my team OK
- 43:03you know I I I he's on a he's on A roll.
- 43:06I just want to see the see the challenge put on Petco.
- 43:09Yeah. So no.
- 43:10Doubt. I kind of like the challenge,
- 43:11you know, like how we said sometimes the rounds.
- 43:17You'll you'll be the champion before you know the season's
- 43:20over. So like the it's still going so
- 43:23I want to see. I want to see the challenge
- 43:25still go maybe to the end of the season so to allow who's in 3rd
- 43:32place. OK, yeah.
- 43:34So he he's, I don't know how much fight he still has, how far
- 43:41away, but you know if he does good these next couple races and
- 43:45sprints. You know, it'll be a good end of
- 43:48season, but I'm rooting for Jorge.
- 43:50How about you you I'm rooting for Pekko, man.
- 43:53I you know I'm rooting for the VR46 guys.
- 43:57You know, I I not to say I'm not rooting for Martine because he's
- 44:01definitely you know figured his way out and stuff like that.
- 44:04But I was already rooting for Pekko from the beginning of the
- 44:06year. So, you know, either way, I'm
- 44:09not losing because of Ducati is going to win the title.
- 44:11So I'm not, you know, you know, there's no, there's no loss.
- 44:14I mean, Ducati is sitting here. Like, who can be mad at Ducati
- 44:17right now? You know what I'm saying?
- 44:19It's just kind of like, Oh yeah, you want Peco to win, but you're
- 44:22not going to be sad if Martine won, right?
- 44:23You still get a title. You know what I'm saying?
- 44:25You know, it's like, so it's one of those things like they're
- 44:28sitting here like we can't. Lose.
- 44:32They're in a good position for for sure, I know they're.
- 44:37Drowning and dreaming over the situation, their interest and
- 44:40and and pure happiness. Either way they roll the dice.
- 44:44Someone on their factory has a chance, no doubt.
- 44:47No. But yeah, heco.
- 44:51It's going to be good. Great to see what he has in him.
- 44:55When it really comes down to it, right, like I said, I I think
- 44:58he's probably conservative. But when it comes down to him,
- 45:01not, he can't do that anymore, right?
- 45:03It's going to be interesting, yeah.
- 45:05No, I I agree like this. These next few rounds.
- 45:10Peco has to turn into Valentino Rossi, He has to turn into
- 45:15Michael Jordan, He has to turn into Kobe Bryant.
- 45:18And I'm going to leave it there, right?
- 45:20Because. Because that's what if he
- 45:22doesn't turn into that, you know, there's a new, there's a
- 45:25new sheriff in town. Yeah, he he needs to, he needs
- 45:28to qualify. He needs to be Q2 row one.
- 45:32Yeah, like he was four. You don't need the row two only
- 45:35starting like you know, Q1. We can't.
- 45:38He needs to just come out and just do it.
- 45:40Yeah. And and and and you know, this
- 45:42is the thing. Like if he pulls it off, he's a
- 45:44legend. Like he's a legend if he pulls
- 45:47this off, you know what I'm saying?
- 45:49You know, you know. Back-to-back and and fighting
- 45:52against somebody who you know is going to be tough next year.
- 45:55You know this this like you know I I think it's it's relatively
- 46:00new. I don't even call it a rivalry
- 46:03right. But it's relatively new, the
- 46:05competition with these guys you know where with Valentino Rossi
- 46:09and Mark Marquez and Lorenzo we had a lot of time to see those
- 46:13guys riding and battle with one another.
- 46:15But last weekend race it's going to go down one of the best races
- 46:19in a long time. You know what I mean and and
- 46:21when you when you look at it, when you watch what was going on
- 46:23and so you know I I do believe that you know if if if Peko can
- 46:28hold it together and and dominate these next few rounds
- 46:31it doesn't matter what happens in 2024 or 25 or 26 or whatever.
- 46:35You know what I'm saying obviously I'm sure he might want
- 46:37to get more titles but like you know back-to-back you defended
- 46:40it. You defended it well.
- 46:43You didn't buckle under pressure like like 20/22/2022 in the
- 46:47beginning of the. Season 22 in the beginning of
- 46:49the season and stuff like that. With all those crashes this
- 46:51year, you came out and did your thing.
- 46:53I mean, obviously, you know, no one's going to have a perfect
- 46:55season, so you are going to have crashes and and stuff like that,
- 46:59that high side by himself. You know, Ducati hasn't come out
- 47:02and said it was a mechanical or anything like that, that high
- 47:05if, if, if that high side didn't happen.
- 47:11It would be different, right? It would have been different
- 47:13because he had a few races where he was jacked up and he still
- 47:16came out and did well, but he would have won that race and you
- 47:19know the points would have been different right now.
- 47:22So you know he still, he still got a ways to go.
- 47:25But I do believe if he, if he, if he holds it down and and and
- 47:28and comes out on top at the end of the season, you know, you
- 47:31know they're going to be making the back Naya Ducati bike like
- 47:34they are. You know, for these other guys
- 47:37that that got bikes out now. You know, I've never thought of
- 47:40to that Sprint race that they discontinued and yeah.
- 47:46That's, that's nine points on the table right there.
- 47:48Yeah. Yeah.
- 47:50So hopefully that doesn't come in bite.
- 47:52Write them at the end. Well, because you know Maureen
- 47:56Martinez, the pole master. Yeah, So like Hecko knows that.
- 48:02And he already knows he has to come on strong.
- 48:04He's got Martinez is trying to get that off.
- 48:07You know, I do think that you know the strategy of you know
- 48:12more figuring out the race distance then then where he
- 48:15lines up in in the pole position or in the grid.
- 48:19You know, I think it helps for the races because you see it in
- 48:22the races, but he has to find some way to to, to give more
- 48:26time to his disqualifying because he has to be in the
- 48:29first, he has to be in the 1st 2 rows.
- 48:32Yeah, definitely, definitely, Yeah.
- 48:35It's going to be, it's going to be.
- 48:37Understand where we headed next. We are flipped to the calendar.
- 48:46We're on our way to Malaysia. I like Malaysia.
- 48:51That's another Ducati friendly track.
- 48:54Yeah, no, it is a, it is, it is. It's not a track that.
- 48:57I don't really don't like. You just stick.
- 48:59Stick. A fork into the Hondas and stick
- 49:01a fork into. The Yamaha?
- 49:03Yeah, definitely. You look, you know, I wouldn't
- 49:07rule Marquez and Cuatro out because they could be spoilers.
- 49:11But yeah, no, it's going to be really hard.
- 49:13I mean, you know, I think, you know, tracks that are shorter
- 49:16with more turns, they got a better chance than than, than
- 49:19tracks that got, you know, more straightaways, right?
- 49:22Yeah, I mean, the only one they got left is Valencia.
- 49:24Yeah, that's, that's probably, yeah.
- 49:27We're going to Qatar after Malaysia.
- 49:28Oh yeah, you know, Ducati, don't take that.
- 49:32Oh yeah. I just remember when Suzuki was
- 49:35around on Qatar that straight away that they were like
- 49:39standing still versus Ducati. Oh yeah.
- 49:42Yeah, and and it just, it was just.
- 49:44You know they'll catch back up to him in the corners because
- 49:46they're more corner friendly like the yamas.
- 49:49But that straight away was definitely Ducati's territory,
- 49:52no doubt. Well, there you have it folks.
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